Rebel News Podcast - Independence Day SPECIAL： Why Canadians love America (Guest： Andrew Klavan)

00:00:00.000 Tonight, happy Independence Day. Why Canadians love America.

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00:00:30.000 Welcome back. Well, it's the 4th of July, which is a very special day.

00:00:37.160 It's not just a national day. It's a day of independence,

00:00:40.400 which has a certain meaning, a revolutionary day here in Canada.

00:00:44.620 We sort of haggled and negotiated our way into independence

00:00:47.700 and it shows in our motto, peace, order and good government.

00:00:51.320 That's very Canadian. The United States, well, they're all fireworks and guns

00:00:55.740 and God bless them. It's what's kept the world as free as it has been

00:00:59.400 and fought for freedom even in the darkest hours.

00:01:02.500 Joining us now for this special 4th of July holiday show is our friend Andrew Clavin.

00:01:08.600 He's the host of the Andrew Clavin Show on the Daily Wire

00:01:11.460 and he's the author of the book, The Great Good Thing.

00:01:15.200 Andrew, it's great to have you back on the show.

00:01:16.760 I remember last time we had a big sit down.

00:01:18.380 It was over Christmas and we talked all about your journey,

00:01:21.620 your political journey, even your religious journey.

00:01:24.520 Today I'd like to talk a little bit more about America.

00:01:27.300 And we're Canadians mainly up here, but we have an affection for America.

00:01:31.580 I think a lot of people around the world do.

00:01:33.820 Why do you think that is?

00:01:35.940 Well, for one thing, there's actually not a single person walking the earth

00:01:39.800 who is a free man politically or a free woman politically

00:01:43.160 who does not at least owe some small debt of gratitude to the United States of America,

00:01:48.700 to the people who have fought to keep the world safe from Nazism,

00:01:52.640 to the people who stood up to the Soviet Union and brought them down,

00:01:56.920 to the people who, if left to their own devices, actually couldn't defend themselves

00:02:01.660 but are not under attack because anybody who attacks them knows

00:02:05.280 that they would be messing with the United States.

00:02:07.240 So this is a country that not only put the idea of a new kind of freedom into the air in 1776,

00:02:16.500 but also has maintained that freedom as it has spread through the world.

00:02:20.680 I mean, the world is becoming a freer place.

00:02:23.640 And a lot of that freedom can be traced back to July 4th, 1776,

00:02:27.940 when a bunch of very, very brave men put their lives and honor on the line to say,

00:02:32.140 no, we want to be free and we want to construct a government

00:02:34.700 that it works from the bottom up instead of from the top down.

00:02:38.600 You know, not too far away from July 4th, 1776 was the French Revolution

00:02:45.440 and its echoes in Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité.

00:02:50.580 And why is it that the American Revolution took the path it did?

00:02:55.420 It didn't lapse back into a monarchy.

00:02:58.840 It didn't lapse into the horrors that we saw.

00:03:01.940 Can you tell me the difference morally between the U.S. Revolution and the French Revolution?

00:03:07.760 And I mean, what, on the other hand, what does America owe to the French thinkers

00:03:13.680 and to the British thinkers?

00:03:15.900 Well, you know, I mean, that's a complex question.

00:03:18.740 But for one thing, one of the most important things about the American Revolution

00:03:22.700 was it wasn't a radical break with the past.

00:03:25.980 It was actually carrying on the tradition of the past into the next level.

00:03:30.260 It was people who said, you know, you have deprived us of our rights as Englishmen

00:03:34.760 by taxing us without representation.

00:03:37.500 We want those rights back and we want to construct a government in which that will be protected

00:03:42.040 where the people will be protected from that ever happening again.

00:03:45.260 The French Revolution got caught up in a romantic abstraction of what human beings could be.

00:03:51.320 There was this underlying idea that if you stripped away society, if you stripped away history,

00:03:56.740 if you stripped away culture, man would be born free. 0.56

00:04:00.800 Russo said man is born free but is everywhere in chains.

00:04:04.480 But what the founders of America understood was no, it was actually an accretion,

00:04:09.920 a collection of tradition, custom, culture that had led us to this freedom

00:04:15.520 and would lead us on to the next freedom.

00:04:17.320 So they didn't break the bonds with the past, they didn't break the bonds with humanity,

00:04:20.660 they didn't break the bonds with culture, they simply wanted to extend them to the next phase

00:04:25.140 using, as you say, a lot of the thinking that had been going on in the 18th century.

00:04:31.540 The French made the terrible, terrible mistake of thinking that human beings are naturally good 1.00

00:04:35.700 and it's culture that makes them bad.

00:04:37.220 The left makes this same mistake right now as you and I are speaking.

00:04:41.300 They are making that same mistake.

00:04:42.660 What the Americans understood was that no, mankind is greedy, men love power, they love wealth,

00:04:52.000 and what they tried to do is create a system in which each person's desire to do better

00:04:57.460 would somehow lead to everyone doing better.

00:05:00.040 And as we sit here, the United States Constitution is the longest lasting constitution in human history

00:05:07.120 and that's a beautiful, beautiful thing.

00:05:08.860 You know, I know that a lot of the things we believe in in Canada, the Magna Carta, free speech,

00:05:16.580 America believes in them maybe even more than Canada.

00:05:19.960 We still have the Queen on our passport and our stamps and our currency.

00:05:24.000 How is it that Americans kept the freedom stuff, kept the heritage going back 800 years to the Magna Carta,

00:05:31.760 but dispensed with two key British ideas?

00:05:35.880 One is the idea of royalty and the other, the idea of empire.

00:05:42.980 The British empire that colonized the world.

00:05:46.080 Rudyard Kipling called it the white man's burden to help liberate the world.

00:05:51.160 Is America actually an empire and is there actually a bit of royalty creeping into the presidency?

00:05:57.100 Or are you guys, have you abandoned those truly?

00:06:01.000 Well, all good questions.

00:06:02.700 I mean, nothing that you cannot look at the history of America without looking at George Washington.

00:06:07.960 You know, when you go back and look at this man and read about him, he is a man of true virtue,

00:06:13.440 which is not often the case with most people and almost never the case with great men.

00:06:17.880 He is one of the few truly great and good men who ever lived.

00:06:21.960 And he was so dedicated.

00:06:23.780 Look, you know, he set aside a kingdom.

00:06:26.100 He was given a kingdom at the end of the Revolutionary War.

00:06:29.700 He was the head of the army.

00:06:31.360 He was beloved of the people.

00:06:32.960 And instead of saying, OK, now I rule this place, he went to the civil authorities.

00:06:38.340 And in a big ceremony that he meant to show the people what was going on, he handed over his sword.

00:06:44.380 He resigned his commission and he left town.

00:06:46.600 And King George in England said, if he does that, he will be the greatest man, one of the greatest men of the age.

00:06:51.840 I can't remember the exact quote.

00:06:53.000 But that it was his doing that and his stepping down after his second term in office, which set the standard for all presidents afterward.

00:07:02.140 I mean, ultimately, after FDR served four terms, we had to put it into law.

00:07:06.320 But until that time, it was simply the power of George Washington who kept presidents from being king, who kept the president from overtaking the legislature, who kept the president from becoming overblown.

00:07:17.320 And really, until it was until Woodrow Wilson started, the progressive Woodrow Wilson, the anti-constitutional Woodrow Wilson, started to say, well, the president should be as strong as he wants to be.

00:07:29.120 That that tide that George Washington started has started to turn.

00:07:33.720 And now we actually have, you know, clowns like Chuck Schumer in the Senate begging Donald Trump to make law when and Barack Obama bragging that he could make law essentially with a pen and a phone instead of saying, no, the lawmakers make the law.

00:07:49.940 The executive executes the law and the judges rule between them, which is the way it was supposed to be.

00:07:55.360 So that was that really is George Washington really takes the credit for keeping us from having a king.

00:08:00.640 They would have crowned him king. They would have gladly made him king.

00:08:03.440 They would have gladly made the presidency a kingly office.

00:08:06.520 But Washington stopped them because of his virtue, because he was a virtuous man.

00:08:11.040 And that is an amazing thing that that can happen in history.

00:08:13.640 And it really does feel like the presence of God was there to give us that to give humanity that moment and that man at that moment.

00:08:21.220 And it's an amazing, amazing thing and can't be sold short.

00:08:24.900 As for empire, one of the other things about the people we're talking about, their links to the past.

00:08:29.860 The founders were steeped in classical literature and classical philosophy and classical wisdom.

00:08:35.560 And a lot of the people that they loved, like Montesquieu and John Locke, were steeped also in the Bible and also in classical learning.

00:08:43.680 And if there's one thing that the classics will teach you is that empire is its own grave digger.

00:08:49.480 You know, that you spread and you spread until finally you can't spread any further.

00:08:53.700 You can't hold the world on your shoulders.

00:08:55.480 And they were very, very cognizant of that.

00:08:58.060 Washington was very cognizant of avoiding, you know, in foreign entanglements.

00:09:02.720 And that became sort of it's not isolationism.

00:09:05.920 It was the fact that we had these oceans.

00:09:07.520 They kind of defined our continent.

00:09:09.120 And once we had spread out to take over this part of the continent, you know, that was it.

00:09:13.660 That was the end of it.

00:09:14.840 I you know, there's always this talk about the American empire.

00:09:17.460 But if there's an American empire, it is a cultural empire, an empire of thought.

00:09:22.060 And that is a very, very different thing, both morally and practically.

00:09:26.020 You know, whenever I lived in England for a long time and the English would huff and puff and say, well, you're really an empire.

00:09:30.900 And I would say you will know we're an empire when the prime minister is one of us.

00:09:35.240 You know, as long as the as long as you're electing your own prime minister, we ain't an empire.

00:09:38.920 We are a powerful friend.

00:09:40.380 And I think that we have remained that so long.

00:09:43.760 You know, will it continue?

00:09:45.420 Very little in life lasts forever.

00:09:47.480 This country has lasted quite a long time as it is.

00:09:50.360 And so I cross my fingers in hope.

00:09:54.120 There was a moment when the Berlin Wall fell and everything seemed almost, I mean, it's coming to the close, the close of the millennium.

00:10:03.400 There was a messianic hope that maybe we were beyond history.

00:10:06.900 There was that famous book by Francis Fukuyama to that effect.

00:10:10.280 But it's easier to copy certain outward affectations of Americanism, drinking Coke or Starbucks, listening to pop music, using a smartphone, than the underlying civic infrastructure.

00:10:26.680 And that's what worries me now.

00:10:28.200 When I look at China's economic growth, they equal America in many ways economically, even technologically.

00:10:37.420 And that scares me.

00:10:39.020 But they do so, so far at least, without having property rights, rule of law, a man's home is his castle, an independent judiciary, lively debates amongst political parties, a free media.

00:10:51.540 And I'm worried if the outward expressions of American success can be mimicked by America's enemies.

00:10:58.960 And if that fools, I mean, I'll just stop there and let you answer.

00:11:03.380 What about those who imitate only the material successes of America without the moral success of America?

00:11:10.040 It's such a great question.

00:11:11.480 And China, of course, is the big experiment in this.

00:11:13.800 Can they have a free market without having a free people?

00:11:16.840 I got to tell you that deep in my heart, I suspect this is not going to work.

00:11:21.520 I know everybody says China's the future and it's all going to be great and it's all going to happen.

00:11:25.860 You know, I think one of two things is going to happen.

00:11:28.060 Either the political system will be reformed to make people more free or the free market itself will collapse and their economy will collapse with it.

00:11:36.740 I think those are two things that are going to happen.

00:11:38.580 You cannot have.

00:11:39.480 I do not believe that you can have ultimately free markets without having a free people.

00:11:43.560 And and also, you know, freedom is I think it's the natural law.

00:11:48.640 I think it is what people want and what they desire.

00:11:51.120 And it's not freedom to do whatever you want.

00:11:53.980 It's not freedom.

00:11:55.180 It's ordered liberty.

00:11:56.600 It's a tension between the individual's desires and the community in which he lives.

00:12:02.080 And that's what conservatism is all about.

00:12:03.800 It's trying to adjust that tension, not letting one side get too powerful, not letting the individual start to get so obsessed with himself that he starts to lose his connection to the greater society, his responsibility to the greater society.

00:12:17.720 It's that tension between the great society and the individual person that makes freedom work.

00:12:23.360 You know, the really interesting thing when you talk about the Berlin Wall falling down, when you talk about the collapse of communism, which collapses everywhere, socialism always lives in the garage, always like an old man living in his kid's garage.

00:12:37.300 People always talk about there's always some country they've never been to where they think socialism works.

00:12:41.580 So they'll talk about Norway or, you know, Denmark or something like that someplace where it just seems like it's kind of more socialist than we are.

00:12:48.860 But those countries live on off us in a lot of ways.

00:12:51.860 If they use cell phones, if they use cars, if they, you know, use all the things, if they don't have a military that can defend them but depend on our military to back them up.

00:13:01.340 Well, then they're really living off our capitalism and they're living off our freedoms and their socialism is really just a stepchild of our capitalism.

00:13:08.540 What's amazing to me is that, except that I know people so well that it's not that amazing, is that capitalism has now, is on the path to eliminate poverty from the third world.

00:13:21.020 Severe poverty has dropped something like 50 percent over the last few decades.

00:13:26.460 I mean, really over a very short period of time because of what you're talking about, property rights, free markets.

00:13:31.320 And yet and yet we have these clowns voting for somebody like Bernie Sanders, who is an open socialist while he makes a million dollars a year.

00:13:39.220 We have Venezuela right off our, you know, right off our our stern.

00:13:45.080 We can look at it falling, descending into socialist destruction.

00:13:48.920 And yet we still have people who think that socialism is a good thing.

00:13:52.940 We have this incredible system that preserves our freedom through a division of powers and powers set against each other.

00:14:01.220 And yet we have people who want the executive to be made stronger, who think the Constitution is an outdated document.

00:14:07.280 It is amazing the power that bad ideas have with the human race.

00:14:11.480 If it weren't for original sin, I think we would all recognize now that freedom and capitalism are the ways to go.

00:14:17.540 But I think we are a broken creature, humanity, and we're always going to be sucked back into those bad ideas.

00:14:23.800 I think you I mean, there's a whole generation that's grown up not only with the luxury of capitalism that perhaps they take for granted, the luxury of peace that perhaps we take for granted, but also the language of the social justice left.

00:14:38.480 And I'm worried about millennials who tell pollsters that they think socialism should be given a try, that they don't think free speech is important.

00:14:46.840 I'm worried about millennials, but I'm actually because of my travels to the United Kingdom, when Tommy Robinson, the UK activist reporter worked for us, I've learned about another threat to democracy.

00:14:58.520 And and I think it's when people come on mass from a country that does not share the same moral code. 0.95

00:15:06.560 And I want to just talk about something that's a little uncomfortable.

00:15:09.260 Pakistani Muslim rape gangs in the UK.

00:15:11.360 I can't think of anything more uncomfortable.

00:15:13.580 But what's I've been thinking a lot about them, because that's what's thousands and thousands of indigenous British girls have been raped. 0.99

00:15:22.600 But it's not that when a rape happens in North America, typically it's a solitary crime of opportunity.

00:15:28.460 Someone grabs, you know, a mugger grabs a woman in an alley or I mean that.

00:15:32.700 And and if you hear the cry, help, help, I'm being raped.

00:15:36.640 People help.

00:15:37.520 A man who hears that will help.

00:15:40.160 Whereas I read this horrific story and forgive me for giving you these graphic anecdotes as a setup, but I'd like your answer to it.

00:15:46.460 I read the story about a bus in Pakistan where someone was being raped in the back of the bus.

00:15:51.660 The bus driver pulled over and joined in.

00:15:54.540 And I know I'm you're probably thinking, what the hell are we talking about as we're talking about America, but I'm talking about a high trust society versus a low trust society.

00:16:02.880 And you bring in tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people from a place where if a woman is not covered in a hijab, if she's not under the custody of her guardian, brother, husband, father, whatever, she's fair game, easy meat. 0.93

00:16:17.580 And so these men work systemically in rape gangs as allies, something that's inconceivable to me as a Canadian, American, a Brit, where we have a high trust society where if we see a vulnerable person on the street, we don't think I'm a predator.

00:16:34.640 I can take advantage.

00:16:35.580 We think I owe this stranger a duty because we're all Canadian, American Brits.

00:16:39.440 What happens when you invite in millions of people who don't share your moral code or even the trust, the mutual trust that comes with being in a country for decades or centuries?

00:16:51.440 You know, so many bad ideas have to go into a tragedy like these rape gangs.

00:16:57.220 But the two that stand out, I mean, what's so shocking about this is that the police knew and did nothing and they did nothing.

00:17:05.020 And they say this themselves, they did nothing because they were afraid of being called bigoted or Islamophobic.

00:17:10.980 Right.

00:17:11.240 That is a bad idea.

00:17:13.120 You know, it is.

00:17:13.920 Listen, it's it is a good e pluribus unum is a good idea to make one out of many is a good idea to say that.

00:17:20.800 You know what?

00:17:21.460 When you come to these shores, it doesn't matter where you come from.

00:17:24.580 It doesn't matter what color your skin is.

00:17:26.020 Adopt the values of the Constitution.

00:17:28.280 Adopt the values of the Declaration.

00:17:29.880 You're an American.

00:17:31.060 Congratulations.

00:17:32.040 That's one thing.

00:17:32.840 OK, to say that.

00:17:35.280 But to say that you come here and you're an American, even if you don't hold to those values,

00:17:39.760 to say that to criticize a series of ideas, which is what a religion is, to say that it's wrong or bigoted to criticize a series of ideas is essentially the cripple, the good in the face of evil.

00:17:52.220 The second bad idea and the idea that we have to criticize is the treatment of women in Islamic countries, the entire vision of women in Islamic countries. 0.86

00:18:01.260 I am an anti-feminist. 0.57

00:18:03.040 I do not believe in feminism. 1.00

00:18:04.840 Why?

00:18:05.140 Because I believe that there are two kinds of people in the world, just two.

00:18:08.740 There's only two kinds of people.

00:18:10.040 There are men and there are women.

00:18:11.560 Those are the two differences.

00:18:12.620 Those are the two different kinds of people that there are.

00:18:15.120 Everybody else falls into that range of person, no matter what color you are, no matter where you come from.

00:18:21.060 If those two kinds of people are not equally valuable, not because they're the same, which is what some feminists say, but in their differences, if they are not equally valuable, you have got a problem in the way you look at the world.

00:18:34.180 If they are not, you know, it says in the Bible, it says they are created in God's image, male and female.

00:18:40.200 And if you do not believe that, if you do not hold to that essential Western principle that these people, feminine and masculine, are of equal value in the sight of God, you have lost your way.

00:18:51.360 You have essentially written out 50 percent of the human race.

00:18:54.700 The other day in the Washington Post, they ran an article by a feminist saying, basically, I hate all men.

00:19:00.080 And my feeling was, well, you've just written off 50 percent of the world.

00:19:03.840 You really shouldn't be writing in a newspaper.

00:19:06.080 You know, you really shouldn't have that attitude and have that spread.

00:19:08.200 Spread. So now you have these people moving into England en masse, moving into Germany en masse, who do not respect the value of the female human.

00:19:17.600 OK. And you have a philosophy, leftism, telling authorities that if you criticize that, you are somehow a bigot.

00:19:25.820 And I just think that that is a recipe for disaster.

00:19:29.240 And the disaster happened. And no wonder they had to lock Tommy Robinson up.

00:19:33.180 You know, once they expose that, the whole leftist system collapses.

00:19:37.620 The leftist system collapses and the anti-Western hatred collapses.

00:19:41.920 And I just think those two ideas linked together have been a disaster.

00:19:46.140 And it is it is throat clutchingly awful to me, not just that there could be rape gangs because that could happen,

00:19:52.840 but that the authorities sat and watched it happen for fear of being called bigoted.

00:19:56.680 That to me is obscene.

00:19:58.300 Well, you know what?

00:19:58.900 I thank you for that answer. And it's raised five more questions in my mind, but I know you're pressed for time.

00:20:03.800 I just want to ask you about this is the 4th of July and we spent a lot of time talking about a different related subject, a cultural subject there.

00:20:12.600 But Donald Trump ran on an explicitly pro-American promise.

00:20:17.800 I mean, his slogan was make America great again.

00:20:21.800 He used the phrase America first.

00:20:24.040 And by many measures, he's he's doing it.

00:20:27.080 So I just want to ask you a partisan question because you're very philosophical.

00:20:30.280 You think a lot about the culture.

00:20:32.200 But and as so many people have noted, culture is upstream from politics.

00:20:37.580 So, right.

00:20:38.760 You're not going to fix politics if there's a culture broken.

00:20:41.080 But here we are, five hundred and twenty odd days into Trump's presidency.

00:20:47.400 You got unemployment at three point eight percent.

00:20:49.320 You got GDP growth blazing.

00:20:52.200 You've got possible peace with North Korea. 0.94

00:20:55.320 You've got energy production at new records.

00:20:57.540 America's exporting energy.

00:21:00.340 You if you care about global warming, I don't.

00:21:02.660 But if you do, carbon dioxide emissions are falling under Trump, even though he's out of the U.N. deal.

00:21:08.120 I mean, you get massive tax cuts.

00:21:09.980 I mean, just win, win, win.

00:21:13.020 I got to ask you a really simple question.

00:21:15.520 The left is freaking out.

00:21:16.700 The media is freaking out.

00:21:18.380 But maybe Donald Trump really is making America great again.

00:21:21.900 He is doing a great job.

00:21:23.720 And I say that as somebody who really disliked him when he came on the scene.

00:21:26.960 I still don't like him as a person.

00:21:28.920 I mean, I think he can be rude and boorish and all that.

00:21:31.460 He is doing a great job.

00:21:33.640 And I think we have to ask ourselves, why did it take a guy like that?

00:21:37.060 Why did it take a man who is a little less polite than, for instance, I am?

00:21:41.440 Why did it take a guy who fights so strongly and in such a hard, bare knuckle way to do what's simply the right thing?

00:21:50.220 Cut taxes, draw back the government, appoint constitutional judges, wipe ISIS. 0.97

00:21:54.060 You left out the fact that he erased ISIS because he erased them so completely we don't even think about them anymore.

00:22:00.140 I mean, he is doing a spectacular job.

00:22:03.060 And I think the question we all need to ask ourselves is, why did it take such a tough guy?

00:22:07.020 And I think the answer is simple.

00:22:08.820 You know, when Reagan brought down the Soviet Union and restored the American economy,

00:22:13.340 they attacked him every single day as a racist, as a clown, as a warmonger, as a film actor who didn't know what he was doing.

00:22:20.200 When Rudy Giuliani stepped into the cesspool of New York and turned it into the greatest city on the face of the planet,

00:22:27.360 virtually and I won't say single handedly because he had a lot of help from the cops and the police commissioner,

00:22:31.960 but he was the leader there.

00:22:33.820 They attacked him every single day as a racist, as a bigot, as a bully, as a bad guy.

00:22:39.140 You have got our press is so bad.

00:22:43.420 Our press is so corrupt, so biased, so leftist, so much a spokesman for the Democrat Party 0.93

00:22:48.420 that you have to be made of something like steel to stand up to them.

00:22:54.420 And even though, you know, I myself rear back and draw back when I hear some of the hard-boiled bullying things

00:23:02.260 that Donald Trump says, it unfortunately seems to take a man of that caliber

00:23:07.040 to stand up to this tirade in order to do what is simply the right thing,

00:23:12.380 which is to make us free, to make government smaller, make individuals more, you know, allowed to do more things.

00:23:19.560 That is what makes us prosperous.

00:23:21.300 That's what brings peace, that and strength, you know, military strength.

00:23:25.180 And I just think he's doing a great job.

00:23:27.440 And there's a little bit of cognitive dissonance there for me.

00:23:30.400 I didn't think he was going to be a good president.

00:23:31.980 I still don't particularly like him personally all the time.

00:23:35.540 But, you know, there is no denying when a guy does a great job.

00:23:39.320 Listen, I would rather be wrong and have my country thrive than have been right about Trump and see us suffer.

00:23:45.680 So the fact that I have to take it back and say, you know, what I was wrong about Trump doesn't mean a thing to me

00:23:50.400 because the country is doing great.

00:23:52.360 I have not seen it like this really since the 80s, since Reagan took office and restored our prosperity.

00:23:58.980 It's a beautiful, beautiful thing.

00:24:02.020 And the press is doing everything they can to make it seem like we have some kind of crisis going on.

00:24:06.400 Ain't no crisis, pal.

00:24:07.680 These are the good times.

00:24:09.460 Well, for those of us around the world who admire America and are grateful to it, it's a great thing to see.

00:24:14.920 Andrew, I know you've got to run.

00:24:16.480 It's such a pleasure to spend this time with you.

00:24:18.360 I could talk to you all day.

00:24:19.700 And I know that our folks can tune in every day to The Andrew Klavan Show on The Daily Wire.

00:24:24.980 And let me plug your book.

00:24:26.000 We talked about your book last time we had you on for an extended interview over Christmas.

00:24:30.560 The book is called The Great Good Thing.

00:24:32.500 And we'll put a link up to Amazon if people want to buy it right on our website.

00:24:36.100 And it's great to see you again.

00:24:37.460 And from your Canadian friends and other friends around the world, you know, we hope America continues to be strong

00:24:43.660 because those are values that we ourselves believe in, too.

00:24:46.360 So good luck as one of our favorite Americans.

00:24:49.940 We salute you, too, because I know you're part of the cultural fight.

00:24:53.940 Thanks very much.

00:24:54.640 It's great talking to you.

00:24:55.420 All right.

00:24:55.880 There you have it.

00:24:56.920 Andrew Klavan on this 4th of July.

00:24:58.620 Stay with us.

00:24:59.400 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:25:00.220 Well, isn't Andrew Klavan one of your favorite guys?

00:25:19.840 He's one of my favorite guys.

00:25:20.760 So smart.

00:25:21.740 And one of the few interviews where I just ask a question and I don't want it.

00:25:25.920 I'm always wanting to interrupt.

00:25:27.060 I always want to make a point.

00:25:28.260 You know me.

00:25:28.980 My favorite interview question is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:25:32.060 Am I right?

00:25:33.360 Okay.

00:25:33.780 It's an admission.

00:25:34.580 I talk too much in my own interviews.

00:25:35.840 Not that way with Andrew Klavan.

00:25:37.320 I am listening on his every word because I learned so much from him.

00:25:42.180 He's with The Daily Wire, of course.

00:25:43.600 But he's very generous with his time for us.

00:25:45.360 I love the American spirit.

00:25:47.560 I'm a Canadian.

00:25:48.160 Proud to be.

00:25:48.740 Don't want to leave.

00:25:49.780 But it's interesting to hear about the American idea.

00:25:52.320 And thank goodness we have the luck to be a neighbor to that mighty state.

00:25:56.460 Hey, I prerecorded that because I'm actually in Israel today.

00:25:59.460 Take a quick look at what we filmed over there.

00:26:02.400 Hi, everybody.

00:26:03.080 Happy 4th of July from Israel.

00:26:05.140 I hope you all are having a fantastic day.

00:26:07.160 I'm Amanda Head reporting for The Rebel.

00:26:08.700 People from our new, beautiful, big, bright, shining U.S. embassy here in Israel.

00:26:14.900 We have got a group of people.

00:26:16.500 As you all know, you've been following our excursion throughout Israel.

00:26:20.820 And we've got a group of people from all over the world.

00:26:23.560 We have British.

00:26:24.380 We have Australian.

00:26:25.720 We have South African.

00:26:26.780 Of course, Canadian.

00:26:28.880 And then I think I'm one of maybe two Americans.

00:26:31.900 But even though we were vastly outnumbered, everyone wanted to come and see this embassy.

00:26:37.640 It's 4th of July.

00:26:38.700 So it's closed.

00:26:39.560 There's no one here.

00:26:40.820 As far as security, you know, they do have people protecting the grounds.

00:26:44.300 But as far as staff, there is no one here.

00:26:47.000 But it was opened, as many of you know, on May 14th of this year.

00:26:51.540 On May 14th of 19, what was that, 1948, that was when Israel declared independence.

00:26:56.620 So that was a very momentous and important date for them.

00:27:01.300 It's a beautiful property.

00:27:03.040 But, of course, on that date, May 14th, the Gaza Strip erupted in protest and violence.

00:27:08.220 It was acting like a bunch of petulant five-year-olds whose toy truck had been taken away because Palestinians consider East Jerusalem their capital. 0.77

00:27:16.940 So that's why they were content with the U.S. Embassy being in Tel Aviv.

00:27:20.380 But as we all know, if you've ever been to Jerusalem, you know that there is no disputing the fact that Jerusalem is indeed the capital of Israel.

00:27:27.860 So hope you are all having a fantastic 4th of July.

00:27:31.080 I brought along my Make America Great Again hat.

00:27:33.960 I actually put this hat over in front of the flower bed.

00:27:37.720 And the other people on this tour, people who are not from the United States, were gathering around taking a picture of this hat in front of the flag.

00:27:44.760 Because, as we all know, many presidents before President Trump promised to do this and move this embassy.

00:27:51.060 But President Trump was the one who had the moxie and the guts and the balls to do so. 0.96

00:27:55.000 So promises made, promises kept.

00:27:56.600 Everybody have a fantastic 4th of July.

00:27:58.740 Have fun and be safe.

00:28:00.140 Well, that's our show for tonight.

00:28:01.180 On behalf of all of us here at The Rebel, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:28:05.840 We'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - July 05, 2018

Independence Day SPECIAL： Why Canadians love America (Guest： Andrew Klavan)

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