Rebel News Podcast - ISIS claims responsibility for Toronto shooting spree. Here's how Trudeau and the CBC responded

00:00:00.000 Tonight, the Islamic State terrorist group claims responsibility for the Toronto shooting spree.

00:00:05.580 I'll tell you what the CBC and Justin Trudeau have to say.

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00:00:38.240 This morning, just after 5 a.m. Eastern Time, the Islamic State terrorist group claimed responsibility for the mass shooting in Toronto.

00:00:46.520 A terrorist attack that left a 10-year-old girl and an 18-year-old woman dead, and more than a dozen others wounded.

00:00:53.640 Horrific attack. The announcement from the terrorist group came in Arabic, of course, from the semi-official news agency for the Islamic State called AMAK.

00:01:03.900 In English, they said that the murderer, Faisal Hussain, was, quote,

00:01:07.640 That's the language the ISIS uses when someone was inspired by them, as in, got their information from them on how to do it, 0.56

00:01:25.880 studied the Islamic State's ideas online, planned the attack themselves, but did it in the name of the Islamic State, not directed by them.

00:01:33.560 That's different from the more spectacular terrorist attacks, such as the military-style operation that ISIS did in Paris a few years back.

00:01:41.900 Teams of ISIS terrorists slaughtered dozens of people working together as a unit.

00:01:47.180 This, what we see in Toronto, is more in the style of the ISIS terrorist attack on Parliament Hill a few years ago,

00:01:53.340 when one person murdered Corporal Nathan Cirillo, who was standing at the National Memorial in Ottawa, and then burst into Parliament himself.

00:02:02.080 Here's the Reuters announcement of today's Islamic State declaration.

00:02:07.100 Now, since then, news of this terrorist claim has been published around the world,

00:02:11.760 from India to Israel to America and the UK, everywhere, China even.

00:02:17.880 I mean, it's huge news, obviously.

00:02:21.160 Now, it might not be true, their claim.

00:02:24.040 They might be lying. 0.99

00:02:25.560 They're willing to kill you. 0.94

00:02:26.660 They'll probably lie to you, too, for propaganda reasons. 0.72

00:02:30.000 But historically, the Islamic State tends to be proven accurate about their claims of what they've done. 0.81

00:02:36.720 I mean, I don't know.

00:02:38.520 Rukmini Kalamaki, she's a New York Times expert on the Islamic State,

00:02:42.280 who has interviewed ISIS terrorists, including ones who have returned to Canada,

00:02:46.960 unprosecuted by Canadian police.

00:02:49.340 She weighed in on the ISIS statement this morning.

00:02:53.080 Here's her key comment, I think.

00:02:54.860 She said,

00:02:55.240 As a reporter studying this attack, what I want to know is what did police find on his phone and on his laptop?

00:03:03.560 Specifically, did he have Telegram, the group's preferred messaging app?

00:03:08.240 Who, if anyone, was he talking to?

00:03:10.740 Is there evidence of him consuming ISIS propaganda?

00:03:15.320 Those are really good questions, don't you think?

00:03:18.220 But not the kind of questions we've been seeing so far from most Canadian news media.

00:03:22.820 Yeah, I'll get to the Canadian news media's focus in a moment.

00:03:25.700 But in fact, Canadian police have been very tight-lipped about things.

00:03:29.820 First, delaying releasing the identity of the murderer for a full day after they knew it.

00:03:35.760 And then even as the days go by, there have been contradictory reports from the police,

00:03:40.720 but all by way of leaks or off-the-record gossip, nothing official.

00:03:44.940 Here's a story in global news where one police leaker says they had, in fact, detained the murderer twice in the past for mental health reasons.

00:03:56.440 Now, what does that even mean?

00:03:57.940 Does that mean they arrested him for being crazy?

00:04:00.940 Or just they used the powers of the law under the Mental Health Act to pick him up for doing other things to detain him for a bit?

00:04:06.940 We don't know. It's just gossip, right?

00:04:08.980 Here's another story referring to other police leaks.

00:04:11.580 This is from CBS in the United States.

00:04:15.220 They say that Faisal Hussain had visited Pakistan and Afghanistan, places where Muslim terrorism is rampant.

00:04:24.160 Joe Warmington broke the story as well on Monday.

00:04:27.480 Same story.

00:04:29.180 So is that true?

00:04:30.680 Again, that's an off-the-record leak.

00:04:32.560 Here's a New York Post story, also based on leaks,

00:04:37.000 that claims Hussain was really into Batman.

00:04:39.480 My point is, information has been turned off by the official police spokesman.

00:04:47.080 We're relying on gossip.

00:04:48.460 Don't you think that's odd?

00:04:50.160 Even more odd, Justin Trudeau, the Prime Minister, he's on vacation.

00:04:54.920 He's been on vacation for days.

00:04:56.380 The mass shooting, even if it's not in the end a terrorist attack,

00:05:00.560 it happened on Sunday night.

00:05:01.820 It's now Wednesday night.

00:05:02.820 At the time I'm recording this video commentary,

00:05:07.580 Trudeau has not yet bothered to break away from, I don't know,

00:05:10.060 building sandcastles or whatever he's doing,

00:05:12.040 to even speak to reporters, let alone fly back to Toronto to comfort the victims.

00:05:16.280 I recall earlier this year, I think it was in January,

00:05:19.000 when a young woman, a young Muslim girl, just 11, lied.

00:05:24.040 She said a Chinese man approached her on the street and cut off her hijab with scissors.

00:05:30.180 Now, that's something that police quickly revealed to be a hoax.

00:05:34.000 But Trudeau and half the Liberal Cabinet made a special point of weighing in on this hijab hoax

00:05:39.840 and the Islamophobia, they said, was rampant.

00:05:43.040 I say again, it was just a hoax.

00:05:45.820 But today, we have two beautiful young women who were murdered by a Muslim man,

00:05:51.080 perhaps a terrorist, maybe not,

00:05:52.480 and not a peep about terrorism, not a word about ISIS and no consolation visit by Trudeau,

00:05:59.980 not enough for him to break away from his vacation.

00:06:03.780 And at least at the moment I'm saying this, silence from the state broadcaster too.

00:06:07.540 Why?

00:06:08.680 Again, I don't necessarily believe when ISIS says something, they're into propaganda,

00:06:13.300 but surely a terrorist-style attack in Toronto by a Muslim man. 0.88

00:06:19.880 And then the world's most menacing Muslim terrorist group claims credit for it, 1.00

00:06:23.480 says he was inspired by them. 0.90

00:06:25.860 Surely that's got to be news?

00:06:28.540 Well, no, not when it's against the narrative that this is just a mental illness. 0.98

00:06:33.680 No, there's no Muslim terrorism here. 0.93

00:06:35.440 And I mentioned that yesterday,

00:06:36.760 that the official narrative pushed out relentlessly by the mainstream media,

00:06:40.460 especially the CBC, was that the murderer was not a terrorist.

00:06:43.920 No, don't be so racist. 1.00

00:06:45.420 He was just mentally ill. 1.00

00:06:47.540 Had been for a long time. 0.99

00:06:49.200 So leave it there, people.

00:06:51.220 Except it was really odd, that letter.

00:06:52.580 I just scrolled by very quickly.

00:06:53.940 He was written in the style of a professional PR agency,

00:06:56.700 not in the voice of, you know, senior citizen Muslim migrants from Pakistan

00:07:01.060 who don't speak English well.

00:07:03.460 The letter wasn't actually signed.

00:07:06.380 No one at the CBC said where they got it from.

00:07:08.480 No one even said the names of the family members that allegedly wrote it or signed it.

00:07:12.400 No one said how that came into the CBC's possession.

00:07:15.780 So weird.

00:07:16.580 No answers.

00:07:17.320 Very opaque.

00:07:17.940 And as I mentioned yesterday,

00:07:19.120 it perfectly coincided with the moment the police announced the name of the Muslim terrorist,

00:07:24.880 Faisal Hussain.

00:07:26.180 So the timing was choreographed.

00:07:27.860 Very strange.

00:07:29.880 But then last night, the truth came out,

00:07:31.480 and it wasn't written by the family.

00:07:33.820 That letter wasn't written by the family.

00:07:35.040 The CBC said it was, but it wasn't.

00:07:36.200 It was written by this man, Mohammed Hashim.

00:07:40.920 According to Hashim's own biography, he's a political activist of the left,

00:07:44.180 including working with the Islamist lobby group called the NCCM,

00:07:48.120 the National Council of Canadian Muslims.

00:07:51.020 They used to be called CARECAM, the Canadian branch of CARE,

00:07:54.380 the Council of American Islamic Relations.

00:07:56.200 It's a U.S. group that a U.S. court has linked to the Muslim Brotherhood

00:08:01.760 and to the Hamas terrorist group.

00:08:04.360 So this guy who wrote the PR letter for the family, he's a real operator.

00:08:08.660 But all of that background was kept secret from viewers.

00:08:12.180 The CBC actually colluded with him, an Islamist lobbyist, 0.97

00:08:17.140 and colluded with the murderer's family.

00:08:19.420 The very fact that he was somehow tipped off before the rest of the public was,

00:08:26.060 and he had a chance to work with the murderer's family,

00:08:28.720 and with the CBC to set the whole thing up is shocking and bizarre.

00:08:32.360 Imagine that, giving a head start to the murderer's family.

00:08:36.760 But look, not really.

00:08:38.020 This is Justin Trudeau, and this is Justin Trudeau's CBC. 0.53

00:08:40.520 It's his state broadcaster, and it's not weirder that they're claiming a Muslim murderer 0.75

00:08:47.440 merely had mental issues and tailoring their coverage.

00:08:51.180 That's no weirder when you think about it than the fact that they ignored the ISIS claim.

00:08:56.960 You know, they ignored it as long as they could, as hard as they could.

00:08:59.940 I mentioned yesterday that all sorts of media were attacking me and the rebel,

00:09:03.720 simply for asking questions.

00:09:04.840 They attacked Joe Warmington, too, and our friend David Menzies,

00:09:07.180 and Anthony Fury, who wrote the expose on that Mohammed Hashem and the Son.

00:09:12.240 Our friend David Menzies was talking to Torontonians about what they thought,

00:09:16.080 just gentle questions, very consoling questions,

00:09:18.920 and he just mentioned a U.S. report about ISIS,

00:09:22.240 and one leftist activist teacher union type who overheard David on the street

00:09:27.140 came over and just went nuts.

00:09:32.340 Here, just watch for a moment. 0.70

00:09:34.200 You prefer a communist society?

00:09:35.560 I prefer socialist society, yes, I do.

00:09:37.440 Like in Venezuela, perhaps?

00:09:38.720 No.

00:09:39.100 North Korea? 0.67

00:09:39.880 Oh, my God.

00:09:40.880 Cuba?

00:09:41.360 Wow.

00:09:42.380 I'm naming all the socialists. 0.99

00:09:44.460 You're descending into your own hell right now. 0.98

00:09:46.660 Listen. 0.89

00:09:47.000 These are hell holes.

00:09:47.920 I agree with you.

00:09:49.140 Hell holes.

00:09:50.080 Now you're quoting Trump.

00:09:51.480 Lovely.

00:09:52.140 That was perfect.

00:09:53.720 Perfect.

00:09:54.340 He did a different kind of hole.

00:09:56.000 Quoting Trump is the best thing you could have ever done for yourself.

00:09:59.840 Way to go.

00:10:00.740 That was priceless.

00:10:02.140 Now you're done.

00:10:02.840 Way to go.

00:10:03.440 I'm done here.

00:10:04.280 It's priceless.

00:10:05.700 He is now done here.

00:10:07.360 You don't care what ISIS is doing in the world right now?

00:10:09.880 No, I actually don't.

00:10:11.460 What is wrong with this world is that we don't love and we don't talk to each other.

00:10:14.960 We don't form human relationships anymore.

00:10:17.220 That is wrong with this world. 0.99

00:10:18.960 It's not about your freaking fascist agenda and your... 1.00

00:10:22.920 Fascist. 1.00

00:10:23.700 Fascist. 1.00

00:10:24.180 I'm going to say the word. 1.00

00:10:25.360 Just like you quoted Trump, Trump is a fascist. 1.00

00:10:28.020 Quote me on that. 0.99

00:10:29.200 Quote me on that.

00:10:30.200 Okay, Ford. 0.99

00:10:31.780 People that elected Ford are people that are demented. 0.97

00:10:34.520 That have absolutely no social... 0.99

00:10:35.620 Really?

00:10:36.200 Yes.

00:10:36.520 He won a super majority government.

00:10:39.180 Demented.

00:10:39.640 Most of the province is demented then?

00:10:41.380 Do you not know anything about social reform?

00:10:43.420 Do you not know anything about representative governments?

00:10:45.680 I have two degrees in political science, man.

00:10:47.240 Don't even try to challenge me.

00:10:48.420 That was weird.

00:10:50.100 But the weirdest part was when she was screaming at David that he was racist for even mentioning

00:10:56.480 that ISIS might be involved. 0.98

00:10:57.860 He was quoting a U.S. news source and she was racist, racist. 1.00

00:11:02.260 It was really weird.

00:11:02.940 You can watch that whole thing.

00:11:03.820 I recommend you find it on our YouTube page.

00:11:05.340 It's just really weird.

00:11:06.620 Anyways, right before she injected herself into David's conversation, he was talking to this guy.

00:11:14.280 CBS in the U.S. was reporting that this person had visited ISIS websites.

00:11:20.220 He had pledged his support to ISIS.

00:11:21.900 He may have visited Pakistan and Afghanistan.

00:11:25.020 I'm just wondering, do you think there could be a terrorism link to what happened?

00:11:29.220 Yes.

00:11:30.140 Yes.

00:11:30.660 I don't know what to say, but yeah.

00:11:34.660 If that is the case, though, if there is terrorism, why are the authorities so reluctant to call it terrorism?

00:11:41.400 I don't know.

00:11:42.360 I don't know.

00:11:44.280 Interviewing somebody?

00:11:45.340 I don't know.

00:11:45.840 It's just awful.

00:11:47.480 Can we not make descendants of racism, please?

00:11:49.860 Can we not? 0.99

00:11:51.280 You can see the crazy lady. 1.00

00:11:52.500 She was just about to pounce. 0.98

00:11:53.660 Anyways, I think that guy's right.

00:11:56.180 He's sad about Toronto.

00:11:57.300 Sad about what's happening.

00:11:58.000 He's worried.

00:11:58.600 He doesn't know if it was ISIS or not.

00:12:00.660 How would he know?

00:12:01.140 And remember, that was recorded before ISIS publicly claimed responsibility this morning.

00:12:04.860 So the CBC and the government are telling him one thing, but his gut is telling him another.

00:12:10.700 And now ISIS is telling him something else.

00:12:13.760 That claim of mental illness.

00:12:15.240 Really? 0.94

00:12:15.800 If you're depressed, and many people are depressed, does that make you take a gun and mow down people on the street?

00:12:21.680 The Globe and Mail reports this.

00:12:24.160 This is interesting.

00:12:26.420 They say that a Sikh man walked by the murderer on the street, and the murderer said to him, don't worry, I won't kill you.

00:12:34.740 What did he mean by that?

00:12:37.620 Why did he say that to the Sikh man? 0.99

00:12:39.800 Was he only killing Christians or white people? 0.94

00:12:42.200 Who knows? 0.99

00:12:43.000 But it's out there.

00:12:43.660 It's a fact.

00:12:44.360 Here's a criminal lawyer who actually managed to speak some truth about this on live TV in Toronto.

00:12:49.220 They didn't know he was going to say this, so they couldn't cut him off, could they?

00:12:52.520 Here, take a listen.

00:12:53.420 ...press release that comes out from the family that says there's nothing to see here, mental health issues,

00:12:58.220 comes out at the very moment that the young man's name is released.

00:13:01.280 I have questions about that.

00:13:02.740 Sure, there might be mental health issues.

00:13:04.760 Sure, the police might have come before, but to end this conversation and to be told by certain very prolific people in this country

00:13:11.640 that we should ask no questions about his background, no questions about his belief system,

00:13:17.580 no questions about what he's reading or viewing online or what his thoughts might be,

00:13:22.720 to me is the most elite anti-intellectual project I've ever seen when this isn't some random act of violence that resulted in nobody being hurt.

00:13:30.580 15, 16 people were mowed down, and as the police are doing their job, we need to find out what the evidence is.

00:13:37.620 But the mental health aspect, which is constantly used for these kinds of shootings and attacks, is way overplayed.

00:13:44.360 And I can tell you, if he was still alive, he would not be getting a get-out-of-jail-free card because of the mental health issue.

00:13:50.480 Yeah, look, there's enough truth poking through the fog of lies here.

00:13:53.420 I mean, let's be honest. This was terrorism. We all know it. We all know it.

00:13:58.860 I think the reason why that crazy teacher was so crazy is because she knew it, but she didn't like the fact someone was saying it. 0.88

00:14:06.120 I don't think she would have been that revved up if she didn't know it was true, 0.69

00:14:11.160 and she was just trying, fighting against her own disillusionment.

00:14:15.420 All the irregularities here, delaying publishing the terrorist name, publishing a PR document as if it's a real letter from the family,

00:14:23.620 running with the mental health excuse without any corroboration or any proof or any reasonableness,

00:14:28.260 downplaying the ISIS claim, even as every single major newspaper in the world reported it.

00:14:33.000 I tell you what, I don't think they're getting away with it.

00:14:36.020 I think normal people notice what's going on. They know this was a terrorist attack.

00:14:39.600 Don't think people don't see the 5P professionals, politicians, the press, police, prosecutors, and professors.

00:14:47.560 Don't think we don't notice that they're all obscuring the truth together, not clarifying things,

00:14:54.160 but they're all telling us to mind our own business, not to worry our pretty little heads about things.

00:14:58.840 A teacher enraged that someone would dare ask a question.

00:15:02.420 A prime minister in hiding. A state broadcaster colluding with an Islamic activist. 0.93

00:15:07.640 We notice it. We see it. At least those of us paying attention.

00:15:12.980 They want to shut us up. They want to shut us down.

00:15:15.620 But it's moments like this where an independent media like The Rebel is most valuable.

00:15:21.400 Don't you think? And to that school teacher.

00:15:24.940 You may love socialist countries like Venezuela and the censorship of pesky journalists they have,

00:15:31.440 but sister, we're not Venezuela yet. Not yet.

00:15:37.640 Stay with us for more.

00:15:55.100 Welcome back.

00:15:55.980 One of our most popular guests is my friend Manny Montenegrino, a former senior partner of a national law firm

00:16:04.460 and an advisor to former Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

00:16:09.620 He now has his own think tank called Think Sharp, where he's the president,

00:16:13.980 and he's one of my favorite people to follow on Twitter because he brings a lawyer's mind to the BS of political and public life.

00:16:23.500 And I'm delighted to have Manny back on now to talk about the Toronto shooting.

00:16:29.900 Manny, welcome back to the show.

00:16:31.760 Thank you, Ezra. Glad to be here.

00:16:33.800 Well, you know what I like is you approach the news like a lawyer in cross-examination.

00:16:39.320 You look at the words, you look at people wiggling around, and you ask clear questions.

00:16:44.240 And I'm a fan, Manny, and I tell you, your segments on trade and the NAFTA battle have gone viral.

00:16:50.680 I'd like to bring in your expertise on the Toronto shooting.

00:16:53.780 Of course, it's a tragedy, an 18-year-old girl and a 10-year-old girl murdered, more than a dozen others injured.

00:17:02.320 And we don't want to rush to judgment before the facts are out.

00:17:06.580 But what's been frustrating to me, Manny, is how the media seems to want to stop the facts from coming out,

00:17:13.240 bury the facts, spin the facts, because it looks like it was an ISIS terrorist attack.

00:17:19.220 That's what it looks like as of when we're taping this.

00:17:21.720 You know, ISIS has claimed responsibility. The man's name is Faisal Hussein, known to police, et cetera.

00:17:26.920 I'd like your thoughts on this whole story, Manny.

00:17:29.740 Well, Ezra, I spent 32 years cross-examining experts.

00:17:35.720 And to do so, you always have to start with the premise,

00:17:39.580 I don't accept what you are going to say.

00:17:42.260 I don't accept your expertise.

00:17:43.940 And you've got to learn to question.

00:17:46.720 And that's all I do on Twitter.

00:17:48.220 It started with me, the very first thing, and I thought it was very concerning to me.

00:17:53.620 Why is the new minister, Bill Blair, in Toronto, why was he sent there?

00:18:00.000 It is not a border issue, and it is not an organized crime issue.

00:18:04.680 That's his new portfolio.

00:18:06.420 And I found it very odd that Bill Blair was there,

00:18:09.360 holding court with the mayor and the chief of police of Toronto.

00:18:14.640 Now, if you recall, Bill Blair was the ex-chief of police.

00:18:18.980 Why was he there?

00:18:19.960 And that was a bit—so that started the questioning.

00:18:22.980 And then I questioned, why did it take 24 hours to name the perpetrator the killer?

00:18:30.840 Why did the press release come at the same time as naming the murderer?

00:18:36.400 You're talking about the press release that was purportedly from the family,

00:18:40.380 but it turns out it was written by a Muslim political activist affiliated with Kherkans.

00:18:47.580 And that was kept hidden, too, who actually wrote the thing.

00:18:51.780 There were a lot of curious details.

00:18:53.180 Sorry, I interrupted you, Manny.

00:18:54.320 Keep going.

00:18:55.520 Yeah, no.

00:18:56.000 So when those facts started popping up, it just seemed irregular.

00:19:01.540 It seemed improper.

00:19:03.040 So then you start looking for more and asking more questions.

00:19:07.060 And the more questions I asked on Twitter, the more I became concerned.

00:19:11.620 I must say I did think that it looked like it was orchestrated.

00:19:17.080 There were too many hands involved in not having the right story out.

00:19:22.080 That got me concerned.

00:19:23.960 And so I asked more questions.

00:19:27.000 And then as I asked questions a day or so later, we find out the truth, that the family is connected to a lot of violence.

00:19:36.120 The brother is, in fact, his brother, in fact, was a drug dealer, knows a good friend that has access to guns.

00:19:45.160 So there's a lot of information that, of course, wasn't in the press release and, of course, wasn't given to the public.

00:19:51.660 So it got me concerned.

00:19:52.760 And then you ask yourself, what is the overarching point?

00:19:56.080 Why is this happening?

00:19:57.740 And there has to be a broader sense of, I mean, people don't conspire to do things unless there's a broader purpose.

00:20:05.980 And the broader purpose is to give a message.

00:20:08.240 And I think that's what concerns me. 0.96

00:20:09.980 And the message is be damned to the innocent victims that were killed. 0.98

00:20:13.940 Be damned to the people that were injured. 0.99

00:20:16.700 Be damned to the truth. 0.98

00:20:17.920 Let's get a message out there to keep people happy. 0.87

00:20:22.400 And that's when I became very concerned.

00:20:24.320 Yeah.

00:20:24.780 You know, I think the facts are coming out slowly but surely.

00:20:28.840 The fact that there was sort of a pause on releasing the key detail, the identity of the killer.

00:20:35.080 These days, when I see that, my spider senses start tingling.

00:20:39.760 I'm thinking, if the name is released quickly, we know what the facts are.

00:20:44.160 But if it is known to police and withheld, these days, it makes me think perhaps a jihadist, they don't want a Muslim-sounding name to be released because politicians are trying to tamp this down.

00:20:56.400 And that seems to be what's going on here.

00:20:59.140 The fact that, like you mentioned, contemporaneously, the same moment the name was released, a pre-written, well-sculpted document was presented by a Muslim activist.

00:21:11.560 But the fact that it was written by him was kept in secret.

00:21:13.740 There's just too many shenanigans.

00:21:15.520 Well, think of the time he took.

00:21:17.640 I mean, first of all, the killer was known to the police.

00:21:22.220 He's had two interactions with the police.

00:21:24.400 The killer's brother is known to the police.

00:21:27.060 So at the moment of the time that the killer was shot and they knew who he was, why the delay?

00:21:34.260 And then you have to ask yourself, to craft a document like that, and I have crafted documents like that, it takes, first of all, you've got to contact the individual, the family, or someone.

00:21:45.240 And I'd like to know who contacted the individual, certainly not the family.

00:21:49.200 The family doesn't have the presence of mind when their son has committed murders to sit there and say, oh, I'm going to call an expert.

00:21:56.120 Someone called that expert for them.

00:21:58.160 Who called them?

00:21:59.980 Because I know, I mean, I think of my time as an immigrant.

00:22:03.280 I came from Italy.

00:22:04.960 My father, my mother, they could hardly even know who anybody was of any expertise.

00:22:10.440 So who called them?

00:22:12.100 How long did it take him to get there?

00:22:13.820 How long did he produce?

00:22:14.920 Did he even talk to the parents?

00:22:16.960 Did he even know?

00:22:17.960 So that must have taken hours to produce.

00:22:20.700 And that was what the delay was.

00:22:22.620 And why were the government officials cooperating with the delay to get this press release out?

00:22:28.380 Because they knew who the murderer was.

00:22:31.640 They certainly knew the family.

00:22:33.140 But there was this conspiracy of creating a narrative that, in my view, and Ezra, here's what upsets me the most.

00:22:42.040 I mean, I've seen politics and I've seen the worst of worst and the best of best.

00:22:46.240 But there's this beautiful 10-year-old girl that was killed.

00:22:52.340 And, you know, I have a beautiful daughter.

00:22:55.540 And I remember when she was 10 years old.

00:22:57.420 And to have these people forget that victim, to drive a narrative, breaks my heart.

00:23:03.960 And I'm very upset.

00:23:05.400 And I'm distraught with what's happened.

00:23:08.160 And I would want to know every detail as to why the delay, who caused the delay, how would it work out.

00:23:15.480 But, you know, I don't think we're going to get that information.

00:23:18.000 Yeah.

00:23:18.240 And not only have those real victims been forgotten, but the CBC in particular and the Toronto Star has tried to rebrand the terrorist as a, you know, he tried to humanize them.

00:23:30.000 The CBC literally said he had a million-dollar smile.

00:23:32.960 The CBC said he was humble and polite.

00:23:35.360 Like, that doesn't look to be true.

00:23:37.980 I mean, the fact that—

00:23:39.560 Well, I mean, that all doesn't matter.

00:23:42.700 I mean, you know, everyone has a positive human side and everyone—and this person had an evil side.

00:23:48.960 I'm not interested in that person.

00:23:51.340 I'm not interested.

00:23:52.500 I'm only interested in that innocent daughter.

00:23:55.580 Ezra, the story that broke my heart, and I don't know if your followers have read it,

00:24:01.120 but the father and daughter were having an ice cream cone.

00:24:04.140 The father was shot and the daughter was shot.

00:24:07.520 The daughter was sent to the children's hospital.

00:24:10.200 The father went to another hospital in Toronto, and I'm not familiar.

00:24:13.200 It might be St. Mike's.

00:24:14.220 They were nowhere near it.

00:24:16.040 They told the father that the daughter was going to die.

00:24:20.040 The ambulance took him from his spot at his hospital to his daughter's to hold her hand while she died.

00:24:26.960 That is Ezra.

00:24:29.920 There is nothing more vile and sinister to have now perpetrated this false narrative over this poor family.

00:24:38.100 I tell you, there is nothing that breaks my heart more when I heard that story.

00:24:42.260 And she is forgotten.

00:24:43.360 He is forgotten.

00:24:43.960 And the only interest of what I'll call the liberal biased media and the government officials is to drive this narrative, this Muslim narrative, which is trampling on this poor father and daughter's lives.

00:24:58.480 It just breaks my heart.

00:24:59.900 You know, I think this is a national story.

00:25:05.700 In some ways, if the claim by ISIS that this was an ISIS terrorist is true, and we've seen police reports that Faisal Hussein's online activities came to their attention, so that seems to lend some credence to it.

00:25:19.160 ISIS is not saying they directed it.

00:25:20.920 ISIS is saying he was inspired by them because they really want do-it-yourself people who watch the videos and get revved up.

00:25:29.720 So they're not claiming they ordered the hit from Iraq or Syria, but they're saying he was inspired by them. 0.96

00:25:35.700 That rings true. 0.93

00:25:38.100 And yet our prime minister is still on vacation in B.C. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

00:25:44.280 Every day, if you look at his official calendar on his website, it says personal day.

00:25:48.160 He hasn't broken off his sandcastle vacation to even make a public appearance, a public statement.

00:25:55.060 If this were George W. Bush and Hurricane Katrina, it could be almost a career ender.

00:26:01.420 I haven't seen a single mainstream journalist, even mainstream media, CBC, Toronto Star journalist, even mention the Trudeau's AWOL.

00:26:09.100 Yeah, no, I don't judge Justin Trudeau with George W. Bush.

00:26:14.280 I judge him for himself.

00:26:15.900 When there was that false, fake hijab story, and it was a minor incident, if it were true and it was proven to be false,

00:26:25.020 Justin Trudeau tweeted, and not only did he tweet within hours, but he tweeted the victim's name, who she was not a victim.

00:26:32.500 It was all perpetrated.

00:26:33.680 It was all fraud.

00:26:34.460 Here we have another innocent girl, 10 years old, killed, and no tweet, no heartfelt discussion about her on holidays, ignoring.

00:26:45.060 So I judge Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister Trudeau, to his own standards.

00:26:50.060 If he did not do that tweet with that fake hijab story and move within hours, and here days have gone by and he's done nothing, I judge him to his actions. 0.86

00:27:02.080 Much like we do with, much what we did with his groping incident.

00:27:06.840 He speaks virtuously about his feminism, about the Me Too movement, but when it comes to himself, he doesn't act.

00:27:16.460 And that's the same, so we've got a pattern here, and the pattern is in almost everything he does.

00:27:22.800 Manny, I want to ask you one last question about journalism.

00:27:25.420 We've been trying our best to cover this story at The Rebel.

00:27:28.060 I mean, we're a small operation, we don't have hundreds of staff like the CBC, but I think we've been doing a good job.

00:27:34.780 A great job.

00:27:35.520 Well, thank you.

00:27:36.840 David Menzies has been great, but we're a small outfit.

00:27:41.120 The Toronto Sun has been very good.

00:27:43.480 Anthony Fury broke the news about who actually wrote that family's letter.

00:27:46.560 Right.

00:27:46.820 Joe Warmington broke the news about Faisal Hussain's links to ISIS and a possible trip to Afghanistan and Pakistan.

00:27:54.320 So let me give full credit to the Toronto Sun, but so much of the rest of the media, Manny, has not only been a part of this narrative-building operation,

00:28:05.260 but they've actually criticized Anthony Fury, Sue Ann Levy, and Joe Warmington of The Sun, and of course they hate us at The Rebel.

00:28:13.800 So what's strange to me, Manny, I'm not looking for praise from my competitors and rivals,

00:28:18.480 but for them to focus their rage at us and at Joe Warmington for trying to cover the news, that, to me, gives away their game.

00:28:28.660 These journalists have more rage for us than they do for the terrorists.

00:28:32.100 Exactly.

00:28:32.780 And what I'm surprised about is why am I not being contacted by any other media?

00:28:39.200 I have listed really reasonable questions that really put the issue to test right from the beginning.

00:28:47.460 I'm not contacted.

00:28:49.020 I've been proven right on the hijab story, the false hijab, and I've been proven right on this. 1.00

00:28:53.720 I ask detailed questions.

00:28:55.740 I get attacked for asking the questions.

00:28:58.600 This is a country where you're supposed to be asking questions.

00:29:01.820 You're supposed to be.

00:29:02.720 And I'm saddened that the media itself is they want a narrative.

00:29:08.960 Everyone moves to the same narrative.

00:29:10.980 And investigative journalism is dead.

00:29:13.360 The only place you see it maybe is on Twitter and certainly with you.

00:29:18.280 I mean, I mean, and what do you do with someone who investigates?

00:29:22.200 You try to you try to diminish him.

00:29:25.580 You try to destroy them.

00:29:26.740 That's what happens to me.

00:29:27.920 I ask simple questions and the liberals attack me.

00:29:30.960 I say I'm just asking a question.

00:29:33.000 And the same happens with you.

00:29:34.680 And Ezra, it's very clear.

00:29:36.740 If you can knock Ezra and rebel out, then there is a one voice, one non-investigative journalism in Canada.

00:29:46.180 And we become much closer to those countries we deplore, like North Korea and Russia.

00:29:53.660 We need to have people asking questions from all sides.

00:29:56.360 And I'm dismayed that the media doesn't even ask the questions, you know, like the question as to who created the press release, the family press release.

00:30:08.580 How long did it take?

00:30:09.920 Who penned it?

00:30:11.080 Who called the person?

00:30:12.520 Was it a media person that called the person that did the press release?

00:30:17.860 That's important to know.

00:30:19.500 If the family didn't even know who he was, that's an alarming fact.

00:30:24.120 Why don't we know that?

00:30:25.240 Yeah, yeah, we still don't know that.

00:30:27.540 Well, Manny, it's great to talk with you.

00:30:28.860 I hope we keep in touch.

00:30:29.840 And I thank you for asking these questions.

00:30:31.660 You're always welcome on The Rebel.

00:30:32.820 I appreciate your who, what, why, where, when approach.

00:30:36.620 That's journalism.

00:30:38.060 And we're delighted to have you.

00:30:39.160 Thank you, my friend.

00:30:40.320 Thank you.

00:30:40.940 All right, there you have it.

00:30:41.780 Our friend Manny Montenegrino.

00:30:43.400 He's the president and CEO of Think Sharp.

00:30:47.440 Stay with us.

00:30:48.620 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:30:55.240 Welcome back.

00:31:01.960 Well, there's a lot of talk these days about ethnic nationalism.

00:31:05.500 And it's generally criticized as being racist.

00:31:09.160 Although it's, others would say it's just letting Italy be Italian and France be French.

00:31:16.240 It gets a little trickier, I suppose, with countries like Canada and the United States,

00:31:20.200 but I don't think it ought to be.

00:31:21.280 I think there is a Canadian identity, and it's not rooted in skin color or even religion,

00:31:27.120 even though we have a French and English and Catholic and Protestant past.

00:31:31.140 It's confusing.

00:31:32.040 But one country seems to be doing it rather well, and that's Israel.

00:31:38.080 And in fact, just this month, they passed a new basic law, sort of a plain-spoken constitution

00:31:44.880 called Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people.

00:31:50.540 It's been such a template that even other ethnic states like Hungary have started to look to Israel

00:31:56.600 as a way of keeping their identity.

00:31:58.940 And joining us now via Skype from Israel is David Hazzoni.

00:32:02.640 He's the executive director of the Israel Innovation Fund.

00:32:06.080 David, great to meet you.

00:32:08.260 Thank you so much for having me.

00:32:09.860 How can you combine ethnic nationalism and democracy?

00:32:15.600 How can those two things coexist?

00:32:18.420 Well, first of all, it's important to know that they have coexisted in many countries

00:32:23.720 for many, many, many years and decades and even centuries.

00:32:28.040 Across Europe, you've got – I mean, when Europe was broken up in the 17th century,

00:32:35.240 it was broken into states that would represent each one a different people with its own language,

00:32:41.200 with its own flag, with its own history.

00:32:42.700 And really, all across Europe, when the democratization came through, that was maintained as crucial to distinguish one country from another.

00:32:53.820 Every single country has its own special needs, its own special declarations, its own special relationship with its history and its past.

00:33:02.840 And democracy, which can live fully in coexistence, is about giving individuals, citizens, the rights that democratic nations have,

00:33:13.760 the right to free speech, the right to property, the right to assembly and all the rights that we know about.

00:33:19.560 America was a little unusual, actually, because it was founded as – based on an idea rather than based on a single cultural ethnic heritage.

00:33:29.420 But this isn't the case across most of Europe, and Israel was founded largely on a kind of a European democratic model.

00:33:36.120 The idea of Israel was to create a home for the Jewish people, not just a refuge for persecuted Jews to escape,

00:33:44.820 but a place where the aspirations of this country could come to fulfillment.

00:33:49.000 And at the same time, they wanted to be a democracy.

00:33:51.160 So they extended many rights, equal rights to non-Jewish and Jewish citizens.

00:33:57.200 What happened was, over the course of many decades, Israel didn't have a constitution.

00:34:02.180 So they passed a series of basic laws.

00:34:04.440 And in the 1990s and early 2000s, they passed laws that ratified the democratic, liberal freedoms of a democracy,

00:34:12.840 of equality, of rights for Jews and non-Jews alike.

00:34:15.800 What they didn't do at the time, and this was a big controversy, was to similarly pass a basic law that codified its status as the Jewish state.

00:34:24.940 What exactly does that mean?

00:34:26.320 How did the Jews express themselves and their national self-determination through this country?

00:34:31.720 So that's what this law was about.

00:34:33.360 And a lot of the attacks on it were really very misguided because they lacked this kind of historical context.

00:34:39.580 Equality and freedom and rights are already ratified, are already expressed within the basic laws.

00:34:46.940 This one was kind of a corrective force to also rebalance it to show that Israel is a Jewish state.

00:34:55.080 And what does that mean?

00:34:56.020 And it means that Hebrew is its national language.

00:34:58.760 It means that Jerusalem is its unified capital.

00:35:01.420 It means that there's a special relationship with Jews around the world.

00:35:05.260 The Hebrew calendar is what the national holidays are based on, and so on and so forth.

00:35:11.580 You know, I'm reading the basic law, and it is quite plainly worded.

00:35:15.200 It's not a technical document like the Canadian Constitution is exceedingly technical.

00:35:21.360 The American Constitution is really an operational document in many ways.

00:35:27.420 Let me read, for example, Jerusalem, complete and united, is the capital of Israel.

00:35:32.880 So it's a symbolic statement.

00:35:35.420 It's a nationalist statement.

00:35:36.920 It's not really, I mean, I suppose it's a clear fact.

00:35:39.660 Let me read another one here about language.

00:35:46.680 The state's language is Hebrew.

00:35:48.380 But B, the Arabic language has a special status in the state.

00:35:52.820 Regulating the use of Arabic in state institutions or by them will be set in law.

00:35:56.880 And C, this clause does not harm the status given to the Arabic language before the law came into effect.

00:36:01.920 So there's clear protections for minorities.

00:36:04.660 It makes me think of Quebec, because Quebec, I think, is the most ethnic nationalist place in Canada.

00:36:10.240 They have a common history, a common culture, a common language, in many cases a common religion, Catholicism.

00:36:16.420 And they want to preserve that, because it's dissipating.

00:36:21.440 And English has some status, and it's regulated.

00:36:24.920 But I don't know, I find it very interesting that Israel is leading the way on ethnic nationalism, but in a way that respects minorities.

00:36:33.120 I'm excited by it.

00:36:34.140 I think other countries should copy it.

00:36:36.880 Listen, I think a lot of – the great majority of the opposition to this law was politically motivated rather than based on its substance.

00:36:46.540 OK?

00:36:46.780 It came from all the usual corners of all the people who want to attack Israel. 0.84

00:36:51.340 Both – and not just Israel, but specifically the fact that it's more of a right-wing nationalist government means that within Israel,

00:36:57.900 everybody on the left started screaming, and in the opposition, that is, started screaming.

00:37:03.320 And that resulted in people all over the world who identify with that and who might not like this particular government similarly screaming.

00:37:11.060 But most of them hadn't even read the law.

00:37:13.100 And the law itself is really quite ordinary to anybody who's familiar with the history.

00:37:19.360 It protects the minorities.

00:37:20.600 Israel is a country like Canada that respects the – not just the individual rights, but also the rights of communities to have their own status and their own history.

00:37:31.480 And the one thing that is reserved just to the Jewish community and the Jewish people is the right to express itself nationally as its form of national self-determination.

00:37:44.020 And there isn't any country on earth that gives a small minority national self-determination.

00:37:48.020 That would be secession.

00:37:49.440 That would be tearing the country apart.

00:37:51.360 That would be giving them their own country. 0.84

00:37:53.020 And that's something that doesn't happen.

00:37:55.720 So I'm very impressed with this law.

00:37:59.040 I think this law captures in a way that isn't really politically partisan but captures a consensus of what the Zionist movement was about.

00:38:07.900 The Zionist movement in its origins was about reestablishing Jewish national life through sovereignty, through building communities of Jews, what they call settlement, not settlements with an S at the end, and through culture.

00:38:24.120 And it's important to note that Israel has managed to create its own really special, unique culture that is spreading out throughout the world.

00:38:34.600 And the work that I've been doing has been about introducing people to that.

00:38:40.800 And that's what the Israel Innovation Fund, that I'm the executive director of, and allows people to connect with Israel through nonpolitical ways, such as planting vines and leading Israeli wineries and so on, and film and art and so forth.

00:38:53.080 And that's something that only could have happened in a Jewish state, not a state that was, you know, accepting all these, you know, redefining itself according to its minorities. 0.70

00:39:04.920 But doing what every democracy does, which is in addition to providing rights to everybody, it also allows itself to pass in law the things that make that country unique.

00:39:16.400 Yeah.

00:39:16.960 And you know what?

00:39:17.920 That's what we see here.

00:39:19.020 I think it's a great idea.

00:39:20.120 I think it's just a sign of self-respect and knowing yourself and believing in something, anything, rather than nothing.

00:39:26.580 I think it's a rebuke to open borders globalism.

00:39:29.440 I think it's a rebuke to relativist multiculturalism.

00:39:32.820 I want Poland to be Polish. 0.98

00:39:35.080 I want Hungary to be Hungarian.

00:39:37.480 I want Canada to be Canadian, and I want to stop the self-hate.

00:39:41.240 And the Jews, who I think too often are infected by self-doubt and even self-hatred, and there's a lot of self-loathing Jews.

00:39:50.140 There's a lot of anti-Israel Jews.

00:39:52.480 I think this is a refreshing thing.

00:39:54.160 And frankly, I think Canada, and I think even America, could learn from it to restate who they are and what they are, and whether it's based on ethnicity or religion or history.

00:40:03.860 I mean, you know the old saying, if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything.

00:40:09.440 I'm pleased to see this.

00:40:11.140 David, give us a last word on this.

00:40:13.740 Do you think this will actually change anything specifically, or is this more just a cultural reassertion, more a symbolic way to say, hey, Israel, be proud of yourself?

00:40:24.500 So do you think this is a pep talk, or do you think this is something substantive?

00:40:27.360 Look, I think that symbols are important.

00:40:31.540 So when you say that something is symbolic, it doesn't mean it's not going to have an outcome.

00:40:35.700 I think it affects the hearts and minds of every single Israeli and every single person who cares about what Israel is and where it's going.

00:40:44.700 This is a country that, in my view, you know, people love to say maybe Israel won't exist in 20 years or 50 years.

00:40:51.560 I think Israel has a better chance of being around 50 years from now than most of the countries of Europe.

00:40:56.060 Because its people believe in themselves, they believe in their national vision, because its minorities see how much better their lives are living in a democracy, having rights, than what's going on through much of the Arab world. 0.90

00:41:13.320 Because it's a country that's established itself and is secure, both militarily, geopolitically, but also economically, to the point where now its creative forces are being unleashed and its sense of self is being felt throughout, across the world.

00:41:30.740 You know, now, when I was a kid, nobody knew what Israelis were.

00:41:33.600 But today you see them on TV, you see them in, you know, in culinary arts, you see them in music, you see them in architecture and design, and that's before you even begin to talk about high tech and startup nation and all that stuff.

00:41:45.420 Israel is a growing power in the world, and the most important part of that power is going to be cultural.

00:41:51.560 Israel, and as more and more people want to know what is so fascinating about this amazing little country.

00:41:58.820 Well, we've got to leave it there.

00:42:00.080 But, David, what a fascinating talk, and I just wish Canada had some of that self-confidence, too.

00:42:05.920 It's great to meet you.

00:42:06.600 That's David Izzoni, Executive Director of the Israel Innovation Fund.

00:42:11.060 Great to have you with us.

00:42:11.980 Thank you so much for having me on the show.

00:42:13.820 Oh, my pleasure.

00:42:15.060 All right.

00:42:15.520 Well, stay with us.

00:42:16.460 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:42:17.840 Hey, welcome back.

00:42:28.940 On my monologue yesterday about the terrorist shooting in Toronto, Paul writes,

00:42:33.020 it's pretty obvious why the media didn't name him.

00:42:36.500 It didn't fit the narrative.

00:42:38.120 Some man attacks a girl in a hijab, and they're all over it, even though the slightest investigation exposed it as a hoax.

00:42:43.700 One of Trudeau's returning ISIS pets starts gunning down people in John Tory's sanctuary city, and we'll have to get our info elsewhere.

00:42:50.620 So now we see the media is on the side of the terrorists, as are the Trudeau liberals and the likes of Tory.

00:42:57.820 I agree, Paul.

00:42:58.800 And what bothers me is the collusion when you've got Bill Blair, the Liberal cabinet minister, meeting with the Toronto mayor and the Toronto police chief,

00:43:09.080 and they're meeting in private, and they're massaging things before they announce the story.

00:43:12.760 I don't like the fact that you've got a Liberal cabinet minister and a political mayor of the city who are basically telling the cops,

00:43:20.380 Now, you be quiet now, and don't you rev things up now, and we're going to bury this now.

00:43:25.020 I'm certain that's what they were saying.

00:43:26.240 Otherwise, why did they delay releasing the name for a day?

00:43:30.480 Stephen writes,

00:43:31.240 So now the CBC and CTV have all kinds of doctors on talking about mental illness all day,

00:43:37.200 talking about anything except the two young girls killed and the 13 wounded. 0.95

00:43:40.880 How disgusting. 0.97

00:43:43.040 Oh, that is disgusting. 0.98

00:43:44.300 But even worse is the CBC.

00:43:45.540 I told you that their writer, Shanifa Hassan, she, or Nasser,

00:43:50.700 she said that the murderer had a million-dollar smile.

00:43:56.080 That's what she published.

00:43:57.160 She published that he was polite and humble.

00:44:02.100 They were humanizing the murderer, and they've forgotten about the victims already.

00:44:06.320 Liza writes,

00:44:07.240 Why do apologists insist on defending the shooter and ignoring the victims lying dead?

00:44:12.680 Excuse me, but I am feeling a little hateful towards someone who came to Canada 1.00

00:44:16.280 and then shot up 13 people on a crowded Toronto street on a summer night. 0.91

00:44:19.960 Don't tell me the guy was mentally ill.

00:44:23.040 Well, that's the thing.

00:44:23.900 So now that we know, because of Anthony Fury's column in the Toronto Sun,

00:44:29.260 that that letter was not written by the family.

00:44:31.100 It was written by an Islamist spin doctor.

00:44:34.440 How can we take any of it seriously?

00:44:37.260 We don't know any facts.

00:44:40.940 We know the opposite, actually.

00:44:42.600 We know that that letter was written by a spin doctor.

00:44:45.140 So how can the media still run with the mental illness story?

00:44:48.360 Well, the whole point is that is the distraction, that is the placebo, that is the excuse.

00:44:55.180 And that fake letter was good enough.

00:44:57.000 It was good enough to last one day to set the media narrative.

00:45:01.200 And I bet you most people that's all they've heard.

00:45:03.980 Some folks, like that one guy that David interviewed on the street,

00:45:07.400 I think in their gut they know something's wrong.

00:45:09.860 A guy named Faisal Hussein shoots more than a dozen people on the street.

00:45:14.700 ISIS takes credit for it.

00:45:16.420 They know something's up, which is exactly why the CBC put a cone of silence over it.

00:45:22.100 It's so weird as a Canadian that the best news coverage we're getting on this terrorist attack

00:45:27.420 is from foreign media.

00:45:29.800 It's so strange.

00:45:31.280 Well, that's our story for today.

00:45:32.960 On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

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Rebel News Podcast - July 26, 2018

ISIS claims responsibility for Toronto shooting spree. Here's how Trudeau and the CBC responded

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