It's the 75th anniversary of D-Day, and Julie Payette, the Governor General of Canada, is talking to 90-year-old veterans and sneering at them. She tells them that the Second World War was a failure because we didn't get along.
00:14:08.200There you have it. Theresa May's government says the greatest threat of this century is global warming.
00:14:21.200Global warming. It's more than the threat of terrorism or war. And they say this on the eve, they said this
00:14:28.040on the eve of D-Day. Maybe they think global warming is a worse peril than, of course, the Nazi menace and
00:14:35.700World War II. I bet they would say they do. Well, my favorite response to this was just two letters long.
00:14:43.200And it came from our friend Patrick Moore, the co-founder of Greenpeace, who has since then gone
00:14:48.200on to become what he calls the sensible environmentalist. And he says simply, BS.
00:14:56.200Well, Patrick Moore joins us now via Skype. Welcome back to the program. It's great to see you again.
00:15:02.200There's a hundred things you could say in response to that claim by the UK, but I think BS sums it up with
00:15:09.200about as much dignity as they deserve. That's my thoughts.
00:15:14.200Ezra, these people are living in a complete fantasy world and the Conservatives in Britain have gone bonkers.
00:15:21.200I mean, they've declared a climate emergency when, like, are people fleeing from their homes in panic
00:15:27.200at this present moment? No, there is no climate emergency and there isn't going to be a climate emergency.
00:15:34.200But there will be extreme weather, as there always has been since, like, before the time of Christ.
00:15:41.200So we've been in extreme weather in this world since the beginning of the world.
00:15:47.200I mean, it was a lot worse back in the days when volcanoes were erupting every five minutes,
00:15:52.200when the Earth was much hotter than it is now. But these people started out with global warming.
00:15:58.200The idea being that carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels would cause the Earth to heat up and make it intolerable for life.
00:16:07.200Well, that didn't happen. So they changed it to climate change. Now it could be anything.
00:16:13.200Cooling, warming, floods, drought, tornadoes, hurricanes, you name it.
00:16:18.200But if you said, well, it was awfully cold last winter, they would say, oh, no, that's just weather.
00:16:25.200Don't confuse the climate with weather. What do they talk about now?
00:16:29.200All they talk about is extreme weather because they've lost the plot on the whole rest of it.
00:16:35.200And even the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which is supposed to be the United Nations foremost body on the whole subject of climate change,
00:16:45.200says there are no trends in extreme weather, not in hurricanes, not in tornadoes, not in drought, not in floods, to name a few.
00:16:55.200So if the IPCC says that and the crazies are just inventing the idea that the extreme weather is getting worse,
00:17:05.200then they are in their own little fantasy world bubble.
00:17:08.200There is no actual hard data to indicate that any extreme weather events are increasing.
00:17:56.200They're all saying if we had a carbon tax, there wouldn't be forest fires.
00:18:00.200I think generally politicians don't go full doomsday.
00:18:05.200They don't say they don't make the absolute direct link between if you pay this tax, there will no longer be cold winters, hot summers, hurricanes, tornadoes, forest fires.
00:18:18.200In Canada, they've been dipping their toe into that, actually implying that if we don't have a carbon tax, we'll have bad weather.
00:18:25.200If we do have a carbon tax, there won't be bad weather as if it's an on off switch.
00:18:29.200But maybe you can tell me this, Patrick, is there any science from the UN IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, that suggests that if we actually do all these policy prescriptions, if we actually do bring in carbon taxes and even ban cars, that's not actually going to change the global climate.
00:18:52.200I mean, even the activists of the UN don't say put in a tax, change the climate, do they?
00:19:02.200They're saying if we quit using fossil fuels, everything will be fine, except for the fact that at least 80% of the global population will be dead.
00:19:10.200And, you know, it makes me laugh when people say in the States, like when the Green New Deal came out, they said, oh, no, that'll cost three million jobs.
00:19:19.200No, it won't. It'll cost 200 million lives.
00:19:22.200How do they think they're going to get the food into the cities without trucks?
00:19:26.200And how do they think they're going to grow the food without tractors run on oil?
00:19:31.200They're going to have battery powered tractors and battery powered 40 ton trucks delivering food into the city every day.
00:19:38.200Thousands of trucks like into New York and Chicago and Los Angeles.
00:19:43.200How do they think the food gets to the supermarkets?
00:19:46.200So just that one point, if they stopped fossil fuels today, people would begin to die in the centers of the cities and it would go outward towards the edge.
00:19:57.200As people captured any food that was trying to get into the city, they'd kill the people who were bringing the food into the city so they could have the food.
00:20:04.200I mean, it's very clear this would be a global catastrophe of absolutely ridiculously stupid proportions.
00:20:12.200And no one would wish this on the human race.
00:20:15.200It would be a lot better to get one degree warmer.
00:20:44.200We have to ignore these people and we have to build pipelines and we have to get the oil from Alberta to Eastern Canada, where for some reason up till now they seem to think it's better to bring it from Nigeria, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, all with stellar human rights records.
00:21:01.200You know, I mean, can you believe that they think Alberta oil is somehow worse than oil from those three countries?
00:21:51.200And it is an existential threat to the existence of mankind.
00:21:56.200And David Suzuki is talking about human extinction when the population is larger than it ever has been in the history of the human species.
00:22:05.200You know, you provide a good reality check there on what would actually happen if we actually followed the prescription of, for example, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the New York Congresswoman, who talks about the Green New Deal.
00:22:18.200But can I, I mean, that was an excellent answer and a good reminder of what reality is like, how big cities in our industrial society is based on fossil fuel.
00:22:28.200The size of the cities we have would be impossible without oil and gas.
00:22:32.200But I want to try again on my earlier question, just because I actually seem to recall that the UN's best case scenario, if we implemented all of their advice, the globe would still very, very slowly, very gently warm anyways,
00:22:55.200because it has been very slowly, very gently warming for thousands of years as we emerge out of the last great ice age.
00:23:03.200So the Earth, yes, it is very slowly, very gradually warming, as thank goodness it has, because, you know, I'd be under a mile of ice if it was as it was 15,000 years ago.
00:23:16.200So I guess what I'm saying is even if we did do the Green New Deal, isn't the general trend for very slight warming anyways?
00:23:29.200You're not wrong, Ezra. The general trend since about 1700 has been a slight warming of about 1.1 degrees Celsius globally,
00:23:38.200which is insignificant compared to the changes that have occurred in Earth's past while life flourished.
00:23:44.200Like the last ice age was 350 million years ago.
00:23:48.200This one, which started 2.5 million years ago, may last another 80 million years.
00:23:54.200We just happen to be lucky to be in an interglacial period now where it's a few degrees warmer than it was when we had two miles of ice over Toronto and three kilometers of ice over Montreal.
00:24:06.200So, yes, this is a fortunate time, and it has been, fortunately, since the little ice age ended 300 years ago, been warming slightly.
00:24:16.200But the UN and all of these so-called climate scientists are basing their entire theory on carbon dioxide as if that is the only control knob of global temperature.
00:24:28.200And they are wrong because the sun is actually the main controller of global temperature.
00:24:34.200And that is why the ice ages have come and gone. The glaciations have come and gone.
00:24:39.200We don't really know why the Earth plunged into a global ice age five million years ago.
00:24:44.200And then they say 2.5 million, but it really started getting really cold about five million years ago.
00:24:51.200And that's when the Arctic islands froze up in Canada.
00:24:54.200They used to be forested with camels in them five million years ago.
00:24:58.200And there's pictures of it. You can look it up on the Internet.
00:25:01.200So we are living in one of the coldest periods in the history of the Earth now.
00:25:06.200We are also living in one of the lowest carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere in the history of the Earth.
00:25:13.200Even with us putting it back up to 400 ppm, it's still lower than it has been through almost the entire Earth's history.
00:33:38.200And I'm proud that as a Canadian, I've been made the chair of a U.S.-based, Washington, D.C.-based science organization
00:33:46.200that is right in the center of this whole discussion and is willing to push back hard against this ridiculous notion
00:33:53.200that CO2 is some kind of poison or pollution when, in fact, it is the main food for all life on this planet, always has been, always will be.
00:34:02.200Well, listen, this has just been great.
00:34:05.200I've learned so many things in the last 10 minutes, and I did not know about this CO2 coalition,
00:34:11.200let alone the fact that you're chairing it.
00:34:13.200And the fact that it is headquartered in Washington, D.C. is very important because, of course,
00:34:17.200the U.S. economy and U.S. policy on the environment is, of course, the most important in the world, especially, frankly,
00:34:24.200it's probably more important to us here than Justin Trudeau's own views because America sets so much of the world's path.
00:34:31.200I'm delighted to learn all these things from you.
00:34:33.200And let us not let so much time pass again before we talk again.
00:36:04.200More recently, on an economic point of view, we didn't go through the bank meltdown.
00:36:09.200No major Canadian bank fell like they did in the United States in 2008.
00:36:14.200We have so much good fortune in Canada.
00:36:16.200Of course, the best fortune we have is that the United States is our neighbor, giving us access to the world's biggest market and defending us on their dime.
00:36:40.200And a lot of it's BS, but if there's anything there, it's psychological manipulation.
00:36:45.200It's basically how to trick people, how to manipulate people.
00:36:49.200I think Trudeau, that's how he thinks.
00:36:50.200He reminds me of other male feminists like Gian Gomeschi that way.
00:36:54.200And I think he's looking at Canadian voters the same way he has looked at young women for 40 years, 30 years, which is how can I psychologically manipulate them?
00:37:04.200And with women, it's knock them down a bit to reduce their confidence and then go in for the kill.
00:37:11.200And with Canadian voters, it's knock them down a bit to reduce their confidence and go in for the kill.
00:37:16.200Except for when you're nagging an entire population, you don't say, oh, who did your hair today?
00:37:24.200Or, oh, you didn't do your makeup, did you?
00:37:26.200It's, oh, boy, you guys are a little racist.
00:38:51.200He went with people who had run things before.
00:38:54.200They may have had other flaws, but they were actually action oriented.
00:38:59.200Can you name for me a single cabinet minister in Trudeau's cabinet who knew how to do anything other than, you know, make some PR statements and hand out some grants?
00:39:10.200If you look at the second raiders in his cabinet who, yeah, they check all the gender and ethnic boxes, check, check, check.
00:39:18.200But none of them actually did anything before politics.
00:39:22.200I mean, Seamus O'Regan, as he was on TV, Mariam Monsef, I don't even know what she did other than be a fraudulent refugee applicant.
00:39:31.200His whole crime, Catherine McKenna, a shouty social justice warrior, UN lawyer.
00:39:37.200I can't think of anyone who gets less done.
00:39:40.200So I guess a saving grace is Justin Trudeau actually accomplished relatively few things just through incompetence.
00:40:26.200I don't know if you recall, I did a video once where I analyzed his tweets by subject.
00:40:31.200He has almost nothing to say about Canada in his life.
00:40:35.200I think he thinks of Canada as sort of a half-brother or something, or like an extended part of the United States.
00:40:43.200And not in a bad way, he just thinks, oh yeah, those Canadians are good guys.
00:40:46.200Maybe like he thinks of Samoa or something.
00:40:50.200I think he never actually thought about us until Trudeau kept flick, flick, flick, flick, flicking his nose.
00:40:59.200That's not a good thing for a mouse to do to an elephant, don't you agree?
00:41:02.200My one worry, though, is that Andrew Scheer occasionally indulges in anti-Trump rhetoric just to get a local applause or something.
00:41:10.200There was some internet-only TV ad that Andrew Scheer made recently where they started with a picture of Trump, not as promised, full of it.
00:41:22.200And the camera moves over from Trump to Trudeau, and the gimmick of it is, what a sham, what an idiot.
00:41:29.200Oh, haha, you thought we meant Trump, we actually mean Trudeau.
00:41:32.200I guess it's clever, but you're relying on an anti-Trump antipathy there.
00:41:36.200And you hear outbursts from the red side of the conservatives fairly often bashing Trump.
00:41:43.200I think that conservatives have to shut up about that because they're just pandering.
00:41:48.200Frankly, Jason Kenney has this problem, too.
00:42:26.200I'd like to hear your thoughts on D-Day.
00:42:28.200And I expect that either tonight or tomorrow at the latest, we'll have the results of David's man on the street interviews about D-Day.
00:42:37.200I am pessimistic about what folks will say.
00:42:39.200All right, folks, until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, keep fighting for freedom while you still have it.