Rebel News Podcast - It's World Press Freedom Day — Which means it’s actually censorship day

00:00:00.000 Hello, Rebels. It's World Press Freedom Day, which, to most people, means World Censorship Day.

00:00:05.300 By most people, at least, I mean people in power. Facebook, Google, places like that.

00:00:09.180 They took the opportunity to censor conservatives, and Justin Trudeau announced a whole bunch of plans to root out what he calls fake news.

00:00:16.520 Fake news, of course, is defined by any news that he doesn't like.

00:00:20.400 That's on my podcast today, and I talked to Alan Bocari about it. He's a senior tech editor at Breitbart.com.

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00:00:51.100 All right. Here's today's podcast.

00:00:53.240 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.

00:00:57.500 Tonight, it's World Press Freedom Day, which means it's actually Censorship Day.

00:01:02.640 It's May 3rd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:06.880 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:10.600 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:14.680 The only thing I have to say to the government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:20.540 Freedom, look at it. It means being free from something.

00:01:30.000 And the biggest something we have to be free from these days is government.

00:01:33.300 That applies especially to the media, since while it's important to hold corporations to account

00:01:38.020 and to hold individuals to account and other organizations, unions, clubs, whatever,

00:01:42.220 the most important political function of the media is to shine a light of public scrutiny on the government.

00:01:48.900 So being free from the government is what we generally mean by press freedom.

00:01:53.220 Yes, there are other threats to free speech, to a free press,

00:01:56.220 especially now that social media companies like Google and Facebook rival the government in power,

00:02:00.740 but essentially it's the government, and the corruption of those big companies is at the hands of the government most of the time.

00:02:07.800 I tell you that because when the government therefore declares that it's World Press Freedom Day,

00:02:13.980 that's the moment to check to make sure your wallet's still in your pocket because you're about to be fleeced.

00:02:21.020 I mean, the government promising to protect free speech is like a fox telling you they really want to make sure everything at the henhouse is okay.

00:02:26.620 You leave it to me.

00:02:28.380 It's Robert Conquest's third law. Remember that one?

00:02:31.420 The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies.

00:02:41.860 Now, if you're wondering what that means, the example I always like to give is a city's taxi commission.

00:02:47.080 It's usually dedicated to keeping out forms of transportation,

00:02:52.120 just the same way the dairy commission is dedicated to keeping out foreign dairy. 0.85

00:02:57.240 You get my point.

00:02:57.900 And look at this from our dearly beloved Justin Trudeau.

00:03:02.820 Statement by the prime minister on World Press Freedom Day.

00:03:06.080 You know, it's like when Trudeau says how much he likes women, he supports women, what a feminist he is.

00:03:11.700 You know, it's something we would just know if it were true.

00:03:15.740 If you truly, you know, respect women, you don't go around saying it all the time.

00:03:19.300 The fact that he never shuts up about it is sort of a clue that it's not true.

00:03:24.180 Same thing with press freedom.

00:03:25.380 Let me read a bit from his statement.

00:03:27.900 Today, we celebrate the important role journalists play around the world.

00:03:31.220 We also take a hard look at the current state of press freedom and remember those who have died in pursuit of the truth.

00:03:38.000 All right.

00:03:38.700 So far, so good.

00:03:39.820 I go no beef with that.

00:03:41.220 But then get this.

00:03:43.100 The theme of this year's World Press Freedom Day is media for democracy, journalism, and elections in times of disinformation.

00:03:51.640 Journalists today face grave and growing challenges in their work to provide the public with reliable and quality information.

00:04:00.840 Oh, I didn't know that freedom in the press had themes.

00:04:04.040 I thought it was just freedom, you know.

00:04:06.000 But no, it's only the freedom for a certain kind of journalism.

00:04:12.820 And look there.

00:04:14.400 Trudeau thinks that journalism that has disinformation about elections, that's not good.

00:04:20.520 So you see, journalists have grave challenges, says Trudeau.

00:04:23.660 But not from him or other governments.

00:04:26.020 No, he's their savior, as this press release shows.

00:04:29.220 The enemy of good journalists is bad journalists.

00:04:33.320 And Trudeau will be the decider of who is who.

00:04:36.400 Like when the Globe and Mail broke the huge story about Trudeau firing his attorney general, Jody Wilson-Raybould,

00:04:41.840 when she refused to drop criminal charges against his friends at SNC-Lablan.

00:04:46.000 Remember what he said about that story?

00:04:49.460 The allegations in the Globe story this morning are false.

00:04:52.920 Neither the current nor the previous attorney general was ever directed by me or by anyone in my office.

00:05:02.780 Except it wasn't fake news, was it?

00:05:05.180 It was 100% true.

00:05:08.020 Trudeau called it unreliable or disinformation and whatever else he said.

00:05:11.860 But in fact, it was accurate.

00:05:13.420 Imagine if Trudeau would be the arbiter about reporting about Trudeau.

00:05:18.980 Yeah, that's what he wants to do.

00:05:20.340 Let me read some more.

00:05:21.140 The digital age has made sharing information easier than ever before,

00:05:25.440 but it has also given way to online spaces that peddle disinformation

00:05:29.280 and reduce complex issues into oversimplified, toxic, us-versus-them narratives.

00:05:35.940 Journalists increasingly find themselves competing in these online spaces

00:05:39.480 against malicious foreign agents and opinion makers

00:05:42.620 who would rather manipulate people and foment division

00:05:45.640 than inform the public and create a common set of facts.

00:05:49.820 Okay, got it.

00:05:50.660 So Justin Trudeau is telling us that it's toxic to have an us-versus-them narrative?

00:05:56.340 Unless it's Trudeau and he's calling his enemies, oh, I don't know, climate deniers

00:06:01.340 or when Trudeau's best friend, Gerald Butts, actually called me and the rebel a Jewish Nazi

00:06:07.280 because I criticized Trudeau.

00:06:09.640 So that's not toxic, you have to understand.

00:06:12.760 But Trudeau wants you to know the enemy of journalism is not him.

00:06:18.400 It's journalists, or at least ones he doesn't like.

00:06:21.860 Good to know.

00:06:22.700 Let me read some more.

00:06:23.320 Independent fact-based reporting is vital.

00:06:26.960 Few professions have the power and responsibility to enrich conversations,

00:06:32.320 open people to new ideas and perspectives,

00:06:34.000 and widen the lens on the challenges we face.

00:06:37.260 But journalism actually isn't a profession.

00:06:40.300 It's an activity.

00:06:41.180 It's not like being a medical doctor or an engineer where there are professional standards.

00:06:46.360 Anyone can be a journalist.

00:06:48.100 And Trudeau sort of hates that now because that means anyone anywhere can say anything about him,

00:06:54.100 not just professional journalists he can control either through threats or outright financial bribes

00:06:59.460 or just who gets to be a journalist.

00:07:01.240 We all get to be journalists in a democracy.

00:07:03.780 Let me read some more.

00:07:05.880 By introducing measures to support Canadian journalism

00:07:08.260 and provide better internet access to underserved communities,

00:07:12.100 the government of Canada is taking steps to make sure Canadians have access to reliable and trustworthy news sources.

00:07:18.400 Hmm.

00:07:19.200 So he's talking about when he says support the media.

00:07:22.160 He's talking about his $595 million media bailout there.

00:07:25.660 That's what he means by support Canadian journalism.

00:07:27.940 Does anyone actually believe that will make the press freer?

00:07:32.500 Do you believe it?

00:07:34.760 And he says he's going to help us figure out what journalists to trust.

00:07:39.240 Oh, okay.

00:07:40.000 And then, get this.

00:07:42.300 This summer, Canada and the United Kingdom will also co-host a media freedom conference in London

00:07:47.700 to find ways to combat disinformation and support and defend media against censorship,

00:07:52.640 imprisonment, personal attacks, and abuse.

00:07:55.160 It is unacceptable that journalists face these threats and more for doing their job and standing up for their fellow citizens.

00:08:01.780 Now, I'm all for keeping journalists free out of prison,

00:08:04.700 including, for example, Tommy Robinson, our former reporter,

00:08:07.680 who was arrested and jailed for 10 weeks for reporting outside of court in the United Kingdom.

00:08:12.700 And I would remind you that Trudeau's government told the United Nations to ban us at the Rebel from reporting on UN conferences.

00:08:20.260 That's what the UN told us when they wouldn't let us in.

00:08:22.520 And so they don't really need it.

00:08:24.840 But what's more troubling is that in the same breath, Trudeau says he's for more journalistic freedom.

00:08:30.020 He then immediately says he's against disinformation.

00:08:35.620 Well, hang on.

00:08:36.160 Isn't that just a word for journalism he disagrees with?

00:08:39.900 Like that Globe and Mail story about how he fired his attorney general because he couldn't corrupt her?

00:08:45.300 I said at the start that the main threat to free speech and the free press is from governments,

00:08:50.920 but they have gotten smarter about it.

00:08:53.640 If they were to try to censor someone like they did to Tommy by throwing him in prison,

00:08:57.580 that only turned Tommy into a martyr.

00:09:00.340 And it embarrassed the state when Tommy's conviction was thrown out by the Court of Appeal.

00:09:04.400 Much easier just to lean on companies like Twitter and YouTube to do your censorship for you.

00:09:08.860 No fuss, no must, no appeals, no fingerprints, no transparency, just on in secret.

00:09:12.700 I mean, the pressure on companies to do the censorship is not itself always in secret.

00:09:20.060 As you know, just last year, Justin Trudeau personally treated Sheryl Sandberg, the COO of Facebook,

00:09:27.040 told her that if she didn't crack down on his conservative critics online,

00:09:31.640 he'd do it for them by regulating Facebook.

00:09:33.560 Here's United Kingdom MPs grilling YouTube's anti-terrorism chief,

00:09:40.060 telling him to censor Tommy Robinson, who isn't a terrorist.

00:09:44.280 He's actually against terrorism.

00:09:45.800 But they were telling YouTube and Google to censor him nonetheless.

00:09:49.520 Here, just watch a minute of this.

00:09:51.400 Your algorithms on YouTube, when you are searching for national action,

00:09:57.760 will then promote the likes of Tommy Robinson and Britain First.

00:10:01.660 This is despite the fact that the Finsbury Park mosque, where somebody was killed,

00:10:07.320 and that's recently been in the headline,

00:10:09.440 despite the fact that videos of Tommy Robinson were cited

00:10:12.760 as part of the online radicalisation of Darren Osborne

00:10:16.980 in the Finsbury Park court case,

00:10:19.620 YouTube continues to promote them videos.

00:10:22.840 What have you got to say about that?

00:10:24.480 We are working to make sure that videos that promote hate or promote violence,

00:10:28.740 if they violate our policies, are removed from the platform.

00:10:31.920 If they walk right up to the line,

00:10:33.920 we have also, at the encouragement of this committee,

00:10:36.580 developed a new enforcement mechanism to limit the features that these have.

00:10:40.960 They should not be appearing in our recommendation engine.

00:10:43.960 If they are, I will take this back to our team and see what the problem is.

00:10:48.040 That went on for quite a while,

00:10:51.480 and it wasn't just the Labour MPs who wanted Tommy to shut up.

00:10:54.460 And Trudeau himself has actually named us here at The Rebel by name

00:10:58.000 as Fake News,

00:11:00.560 which is precisely the people he says he's going to use the government to combat.

00:11:05.440 Here's a little video mash-up we made of Trudeau and Ahmed Hassan

00:11:08.940 reading the exact same script word for word.

00:11:13.220 It is disappointing to see the Conservatives engage in peddling rebel media conspiracy theories.

00:11:30.680 It is disappointing to see the Conservatives engage in peddling rebel media conspiracy theories.

00:11:37.500 It is disappointing to see the Conservatives engage in peddling rebel media conspiracy theories.

00:11:44.460 Yeah, he loves the freedom of the press, don't he?

00:11:51.580 Well, yesterday on the eve of World Press Freedom Day, Facebook struck.

00:11:55.580 They just deleted, just deleted some of the biggest names in conservative punditry.

00:12:01.680 Now, they threw in Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam, anti-Semite, just so they could

00:12:07.680 say they were after one guy who wasn't conservative, but the rest were conservative.

00:12:13.800 They deleted Tommy Robinson months ago, but now they deleted Laura Loomer, a rebel alumna.

00:12:18.560 They deleted Milo Yiannopoulos, a mischievous but harmless gay conservative provocateur.

00:12:24.900 And they deleted one of the most influential YouTube journalists on the right, a Facebook,

00:12:29.580 sorry, a commentator named Paul Joseph Watson, who we've had on our show before.

00:12:34.200 He's harmless, never violent, always anti-violent, but they just deleted him.

00:12:38.900 No explanation, no reason, just because.

00:12:41.920 All of these people were influential in getting Donald Trump, I might point out.

00:12:46.660 We'll have Alan Bokarian in a moment to talk more about this.

00:12:50.800 But my point from earlier stands, there's a merger between big government and big media.

00:12:54.900 As you know, the head of censorship in Canada at Facebook is this guy, Kevin Chan, who

00:13:00.080 used to work in the Liberal Party's leader's office.

00:13:01.800 So yeah, it's pretty much a merger between big government and big tech.

00:13:05.700 Same with all the tech companies, especially in the U.S.

00:13:07.820 They're all jammed full of former Obama executives.

00:13:11.040 Google's senior VP at the time, Eric Schmidt, was an actual Clinton campaign worker.

00:13:15.580 It's a merger.

00:13:16.500 And look at this, today from Google Canada.

00:13:21.680 Google News Initiative partners with CJF to help tackle fake news.

00:13:27.400 CJF is the Canadian Journalism Foundation.

00:13:29.380 I'll read just one line for you.

00:13:30.560 Looking to address concerns over Canadians' capacity to identify authoritative information

00:13:36.960 online, today the Google News Initiative announced a grant of $1 million to the Canadian Journalism

00:13:42.220 Foundation to bring NewsWise to vote-aged Canadians.

00:13:46.000 The goal is simple.

00:13:47.280 Help all Canadians understand the difference between fact-based journalism and fake news in

00:13:52.620 the digital world.

00:13:53.340 Well, hang on, is that the big threat to journalism?

00:13:58.120 Other journalists?

00:14:00.420 So this really isn't a press freedom announcement.

00:14:02.760 It's an anti-press freedom announcement.

00:14:05.420 It's not widening journalism.

00:14:07.300 It's not promoting citizen journalism.

00:14:09.240 It's not encouraging citizen journalism.

00:14:11.280 It's promoting the demonization of journalists that the official people don't like.

00:14:17.100 Official people getting huge money from other official people to comply with and enforce

00:14:22.500 the official narrative.

00:14:24.480 By the way, they based their plan on this bizarre study by the liberal-linked, quote,

00:14:29.700 research firm called Ernst Glyph that studied Canadians' choices of news.

00:14:35.320 And they included the alternative left-wing site called Rabble.ca, which is a union lefty

00:14:40.960 site in Canada, been around for more than a decade.

00:14:42.840 And the conservative site they tested was the U.S. site called Breitbart.com, which I like

00:14:47.780 and I read it, but it's American.

00:14:50.680 It's not really Canadian at all.

00:14:51.800 I wonder if they secretly tested the rebel, but just didn't want to release the results.

00:14:56.160 How odd that is, that we test an American site in Canada.

00:14:58.980 Anyways, the oddest part of it all is that the Canadian Journalism Foundation is not about

00:15:03.220 increasing journalism, but it's about decreasing it, not about supporting journalism, but rooting

00:15:09.160 it out, limiting it to those approved by big tech and big government.

00:15:13.120 How sad.

00:15:13.660 But let me close with a gaffe.

00:15:16.420 Now, as you know, a gaffe is defined as when a politician actually tells the truth by mistake.

00:15:23.220 And Justin Trudeau tweeted about World Press Freedom Day.

00:15:25.940 And then this MP, see, that's Trudeau's tweet.

00:15:29.840 And then this MP here chimed in.

00:15:32.360 His name is Ken Hardy.

00:15:34.120 He's a liberal MP from British Columbia.

00:15:36.520 He actually used to be a journalist once upon a time.

00:15:38.300 And he said, on World Press Freedom Day, remember that a free press isn't free.

00:15:43.580 And a lot of the free stuff you see online masquerading as news isn't, to be honest,

00:15:49.360 about the most trustworthy outlets these days are the CBC, especially radio, Globe and Mail

00:15:53.400 and the Toronto Star.

00:15:54.180 Well, at least we know who's getting the 595 million bucks in bailout money, right?

00:16:00.580 But that's the thing about World Press Freedom Day.

00:16:02.940 It means the government doesn't get to choose which journalists are acceptable and which aren't.

00:16:07.620 It means big monopolies don't get to choose.

00:16:11.360 It's actually the opposite of that.

00:16:14.420 Does anybody else care about this?

00:16:18.120 Or is everybody else being bought off somehow?

00:16:22.320 Stay with us for more.

00:16:23.320 I was given no reason whatsoever for being banned by Facebook or Instagram.

00:16:41.880 So I'm dangerous.

00:16:43.360 Someone who makes meme videos laughing at social justice warriors.

00:16:46.840 Or is handing the power to decide who gets to have free speech

00:16:50.020 to a handful of giant politically partisan corporations dangerous?

00:16:54.580 What's more dangerous?

00:16:56.120 They put me on a list with terrorists, human traffickers and serial killers.

00:17:01.280 Because I criticise modern art and modern architecture.

00:17:04.080 Because I dare criticise mass immigration. 1.00

00:17:06.380 Because I dare criticise a belief system.

00:17:09.180 Yet you still host Antifa accounts which threaten to assassinate the president.

00:17:13.720 You still host accounts belonging to the sicko

00:17:16.200 who sent death threats to Ben Shapiro's family.

00:17:19.040 This is truly, truly clown world.

00:17:22.380 That's our friend Paul Joseph Watson

00:17:24.040 who I think is one of the best conservative communicators out there.

00:17:28.780 Although he's based in London, he has a massive following worldwide.

00:17:31.880 And he took a real interest in Hillary Clinton in 2016

00:17:34.440 publishing some wildly successful critical videos of her

00:17:38.640 that I think helped win the battle for Donald Trump.

00:17:41.520 You certainly can't ascribe that win to any one person.

00:17:44.680 But collectively, I think it's taken as conventional wisdom now

00:17:48.980 that Donald Trump won the battle on the internet,

00:17:52.780 through Twitter, through Facebook, through YouTube.

00:17:55.320 Hillary Clinton outspent Trump by several multiples.

00:17:59.500 In traditional campaigning,

00:18:01.020 Trump had grassroots voices like Paul Joseph Watson.

00:18:04.940 Is it a coincidence that those voices were all wiped out?

00:18:08.720 When clearly, as Paul Joseph Watson himself just said,

00:18:13.120 actual terrorists, actual violent thugs

00:18:16.340 continue to have their social media footprint.

00:18:20.580 Joining us now via Skype is the senior editor of Breitbart Tech,

00:18:24.300 our friend Alan Bokhari, to talk more about this.

00:18:26.700 Alan, great to see you again.

00:18:28.660 Hi, Ezra.

00:18:29.300 And you were playing that clip from Paul earlier.

00:18:31.920 He used the phrase that I was thinking of

00:18:33.720 when you invited me on this show,

00:18:34.980 which is, you know, clown world.

00:18:37.200 Yesterday, World Press Freedom Day,

00:18:40.060 we had all of these bans.

00:18:42.560 And I think you were just mentioning that

00:18:44.720 the mainstream media would prefer to talk about fake news.

00:18:48.500 And while at the same time,

00:18:50.540 these unaccountable Silicon Valley executives

00:18:52.800 are deciding for millions and millions of people,

00:18:56.560 billions in fact,

00:18:57.440 what news sources they're allowed to read

00:18:59.880 and what news sources they're allowed to share

00:19:01.580 and which ones they aren't.

00:19:03.320 We've handed this power over almost every news outlet now

00:19:08.080 to essentially Mark Zuckerberg.

00:19:10.920 Without Facebook,

00:19:12.060 it's almost impossible for a news outlet to survive,

00:19:15.980 especially an independent news outlet

00:19:17.460 without the resources of the mainstream media.

00:19:20.580 You probably know this better than anyone.

00:19:21.940 The independent media is totally dependent now

00:19:26.060 on these huge social media platforms

00:19:28.640 that can take away your freedom of speech at any moment.

00:19:34.600 And I think it's a real crisis for democracy

00:19:37.640 when corporations are allowed to circumvent free speech rights

00:19:42.300 like this.

00:19:43.340 And Republicans often just hold up their hands

00:19:45.380 and say, well, it's the free market.

00:19:46.620 Well, you know, it's not the free market.

00:19:48.660 It's the First Amendment.

00:19:50.220 And if you let a corporation dominate the public square,

00:19:57.160 you have to also hold them to the standards of free speech

00:20:00.880 that you have in your society.

00:20:02.180 Yeah.

00:20:02.560 You know, obviously our friend Tommy Robinson

00:20:04.940 is running for public office in the UK.

00:20:07.080 I've been watching.

00:20:08.120 In fact, I was doing a live stream

00:20:09.720 referring to his campaign's Twitter account.

00:20:14.180 So not the Tommy Robinson personal account,

00:20:16.420 but Tommy is a legally registered candidate

00:20:18.720 in an official government election

00:20:20.760 to choose a member of the European Parliament.

00:20:22.940 And literally while I was on TV talking about it,

00:20:26.620 his Twitter account was shut down.

00:20:29.240 Not his personal account, but his campaign's account.

00:20:32.580 I can't think of anything more meddlesome in an election

00:20:36.860 than a San Francisco-based tech company

00:20:40.940 with a huge shareholder, Prince Al-Walid bin Talal of Saudi Arabia,

00:20:46.220 just deciding we're going to un-person

00:20:48.780 an official candidate just in the middle of an election.

00:20:53.440 I don't know how much, I mean, I don't,

00:20:56.760 I think the whole Russian collusion thing

00:20:58.460 was a bit of a joke and a scam.

00:21:00.100 But what I observed with my own eyes in real time

00:21:02.840 was some corporate decision in San Francisco

00:21:06.200 to delete, to take away the voice of a candidate in an election.

00:21:10.940 I find that terrifying.

00:21:13.540 Yeah, this is the new tactic of authoritarians

00:21:16.680 who want to circumvent democracy

00:21:18.120 and circumvent the freedoms

00:21:21.040 that we've grown accustomed to in liberal countries.

00:21:24.180 Just the other day, news broke

00:21:26.480 that activists had pressured MasterCard

00:21:28.900 to hold a shareholder meeting

00:21:30.300 on setting up a so-called human rights council

00:21:34.120 to monitor hate speech

00:21:35.540 and the far right who used their services

00:21:38.960 with a view to cutting them off.

00:21:41.060 So, instead of going to the government now,

00:21:43.900 going to the courts

00:21:44.720 where they're going to have a much tougher time

00:21:46.560 of demanding censorship,

00:21:49.520 where they have to get around,

00:21:50.620 in America, anyway, the First Amendment,

00:21:53.080 where they have to get around political rights

00:21:56.220 that have been on the statute books for centuries,

00:21:58.720 they're now going straight to corporations

00:22:01.400 like MasterCard, like Facebook, like Twitter,

00:22:04.060 and they're trying to get what they want that way.

00:22:06.080 They're also doing it

00:22:06.540 with the Second Amendment in America.

00:22:08.040 They've convinced Citibank and others

00:22:10.100 to deny service to gun store owners

00:22:13.820 that are engaging in perfectly legal activity,

00:22:16.540 like the sale of high-capacity magazines

00:22:19.940 that's still legal in the US,

00:22:23.240 and simply getting banks

00:22:25.000 to stop doing business with them

00:22:26.220 and getting rid of them that way.

00:22:27.420 So, it's a new tactic

00:22:29.440 that the whole left is using.

00:22:31.080 Instead of doing it democratically,

00:22:33.780 winning elections,

00:22:35.100 or legally winning court cases,

00:22:37.640 they're just trying to pressure

00:22:39.400 a few unaccountable corporations

00:22:41.860 and CEOs into doing their bidding.

00:22:45.200 And it's very ironic,

00:22:46.440 given that the left used to be this,

00:22:49.020 you know, the ideology of the working class

00:22:51.180 against the power of big business.

00:22:53.820 Now, it's been totally turned on its head.

00:22:55.280 Yeah, it's terrifying.

00:22:57.620 Now, of course, they've been practicing.

00:22:58.960 I mean, I remember when Emmanuel Macron

00:23:01.900 became the president of France,

00:23:05.160 shortly before that,

00:23:07.000 30,000 pro Marine Le Pen Facebook accounts

00:23:10.700 were just deleted.

00:23:11.520 Just poof, 30,000.

00:23:13.040 And we have to take the word for it.

00:23:15.580 We have to take Zuckerberg's word for it

00:23:17.420 that they were fake accounts.

00:23:18.760 But what does that mean?

00:23:19.760 I mean, here's my point

00:23:21.400 about what fake news is or isn't.

00:23:23.680 I have believed for two years

00:23:26.220 that that whole Russian collusion thing

00:23:28.160 was fake news.

00:23:29.780 And Robert Mueller's inquiry

00:23:31.300 suggests that it was.

00:23:32.780 So I would call the New York Times

00:23:34.580 and the Washington Post fake news.

00:23:36.260 They may call me fake news.

00:23:38.700 And everyone, as they say in French,

00:23:41.020 shakun a songu.

00:23:42.220 Everyone has their own taste.

00:23:43.840 We all get to call each other fake.

00:23:45.820 And that's what an election campaign is about.

00:23:47.460 We all get to vote based on

00:23:49.080 what we think is true and right.

00:23:51.240 And by the way,

00:23:53.020 if we like to read news

00:23:55.860 that's of questionable veracity,

00:23:58.520 we can choose to do that too.

00:24:00.240 If we think someone's a liar,

00:24:01.720 but we should vote for them anyways,

00:24:03.140 we can do that too.

00:24:04.720 I think that it's not just media power,

00:24:06.840 it's political power

00:24:07.960 that these people are taking away from us.

00:24:10.720 They're making the final decision

00:24:12.840 about what is fake or not.

00:24:14.880 And that should be everyone's individual right

00:24:16.920 to make that decision.

00:24:19.540 Right, and just compare it

00:24:20.860 to the pre-digital era.

00:24:22.200 I mean, you know,

00:24:22.660 National Enquirer has been around

00:24:23.800 for a long time.

00:24:24.800 They've published questionable stories.

00:24:27.180 Gossip magazines have been around

00:24:28.460 for a long time.

00:24:30.960 Their entire MO is to publish hearsay.

00:24:34.180 So this is an entirely new standard

00:24:36.740 that's being applied

00:24:37.560 and it's only being applied to the right

00:24:39.300 and it's impossible to meet.

00:24:40.560 And that's on purpose

00:24:41.260 because they want to de-platform the right

00:24:42.900 because they can't win

00:24:43.980 on a level playing field.

00:24:46.920 You mentioned election interference.

00:24:49.200 It's absolutely election interference.

00:24:50.940 And Facebook did not just do that

00:24:52.520 in France before the election.

00:24:54.040 They did it in the U.S.

00:24:55.040 before the midterms.

00:24:55.900 They suspended 800 independent media pages.

00:24:59.500 They did it in Brazil.

00:25:01.640 They used WhatsApp,

00:25:02.640 which they own,

00:25:03.620 to destroy a number of pages

00:25:06.080 supporting Bolsonaro.

00:25:07.360 It didn't work.

00:25:08.600 They did it in Italy, in Germany.

00:25:11.240 And interestingly,

00:25:11.900 you mentioned Twitter banning

00:25:13.120 the campaign accounts of Tommy Robinson.

00:25:15.400 They also banned the campaign account

00:25:17.100 of Carl Benjamin,

00:25:18.680 better known as Sagan of Akkad.

00:25:20.680 And he did not use his account personally.

00:25:23.540 His personal account has been banned,

00:25:24.860 but he did not use his campaign account

00:25:26.400 as a method of ban evasion,

00:25:28.240 which would have been against the rules.

00:25:29.320 It was purely run by his campaign staff

00:25:31.200 to update followers on campaign events.

00:25:33.920 It was a political campaign account

00:25:36.000 for the purpose of the European elections.

00:25:38.900 So that is absolutely election interference.

00:25:41.760 And the interesting thing about that is

00:25:43.180 normally Twitter is quite good

00:25:45.400 on getting back to me

00:25:46.160 with a comment explaining

00:25:47.320 why someone has been censored

00:25:50.420 or kicked up the platform.

00:25:51.400 They explicitly didn't in that case,

00:25:53.800 which is quite suspicious.

00:25:55.520 And there have been lots of cases

00:25:58.980 where British politicians

00:26:00.360 have lobbied the tech companies.

00:26:01.880 Establishment British politicians

00:26:03.180 have lobbied the tech companies

00:26:05.100 specifically on the question

00:26:06.560 of Tommy Robinson.

00:26:07.380 And I wonder if there wasn't some MP

00:26:12.280 or some government minister

00:26:14.120 putting the heat on Silicon Valley there.

00:26:17.700 Well, yeah.

00:26:18.160 Because the other thing,

00:26:19.140 the other terrifying thing

00:26:20.240 we have to contend with now

00:26:21.540 isn't just the authoritarianism

00:26:25.000 of the Silicon CEOs themselves.

00:26:26.980 It's that authoritarianism

00:26:29.200 joining with the authoritarianism

00:26:31.440 of establishment politicians,

00:26:33.260 both in the West and elsewhere.

00:26:35.160 You know, you said something

00:26:36.320 I hadn't thought of before.

00:26:37.640 Maybe I had, but you articulated it.

00:26:39.920 Normally, it's governments

00:26:41.300 being lobbied by companies.

00:26:43.860 And in fact, I think Facebook or Google,

00:26:46.260 I think Facebook is now

00:26:47.300 the largest spending lobbyist in America.

00:26:50.420 But what you just said is correct.

00:26:52.360 And I played a clip of it earlier

00:26:53.560 of members of the UK parliament

00:26:56.220 lobbying Google, YouTube

00:26:59.340 to silence Tommy.

00:27:01.040 So normally, the power is in the government.

00:27:04.900 The money is in the private sector

00:27:06.740 trying to lobby the government

00:27:08.200 to do their bidding.

00:27:09.240 But here, you had government MPs

00:27:12.360 lobbying a more powerful private company

00:27:14.840 to do to Tommy Robinson

00:27:16.600 what they couldn't do.

00:27:17.640 How ironic that the power has shifted.

00:27:20.520 They were lobbying Google, YouTube.

00:27:23.740 But I want to read your article.

00:27:25.560 I see your latest article.

00:27:26.640 Let's put it up on the screen for a second.

00:27:27.920 It's called Link Banning

00:27:30.720 is Facebook's terrifying new censorship tool.

00:27:36.200 So they've banned people for life.

00:27:38.360 They've banned Tommy Robinson,

00:27:39.440 banned Milo Yiannopoulos,

00:27:40.880 Laura Loomer, Alex Jones.

00:27:42.560 But now they're banning anyone

00:27:44.880 who talks about them.

00:27:48.000 Like, here's a link to what they're doing.

00:27:49.940 Boom. That's banned.

00:27:51.600 I've seen reports of that happening

00:27:53.640 to rebel videos.

00:27:55.180 Someone puts a rebel video on Facebook

00:27:57.060 and Facebook calls that against the rules

00:28:00.580 and they have to delete it.

00:28:01.720 Now, they haven't done that to us yet.

00:28:04.620 But people who share our stuff

00:28:06.740 are having their Facebook pages locked.

00:28:10.860 Exactly.

00:28:11.540 And this is a formula

00:28:12.480 not just for banning high-profile targets

00:28:15.160 like Infowars

00:28:16.080 or high-profile individuals

00:28:18.080 like Tommy Robinson.

00:28:18.980 It's a formula for banning

00:28:20.180 all their supporters as well.

00:28:21.560 because the one way

00:28:24.000 to get around censorship

00:28:25.240 is if all your supporters

00:28:26.200 keep sharing your content.

00:28:27.640 If they're getting banned

00:28:28.560 for doing that as well,

00:28:29.720 not only will your content

00:28:31.420 be completely

00:28:32.180 removed from the platform,

00:28:37.560 but also your supporters

00:28:38.660 will as well.

00:28:39.220 So that takes the election

00:28:41.080 interference to a whole new level.

00:28:42.460 They're not just banning

00:28:43.240 individuals and politicians

00:28:44.820 and political figures.

00:28:45.780 They're banning

00:28:46.340 all the people

00:28:47.320 who might go out

00:28:48.140 and vote for them

00:28:49.220 and convince their friends

00:28:50.560 on Facebook

00:28:50.960 to vote for them as well.

00:28:52.680 It's an entirely new level

00:28:54.440 of censorship.

00:28:56.040 And it's just Facebook

00:28:56.940 doing it now.

00:28:57.580 But as we've seen in the past,

00:28:59.720 other Silicon Valley companies

00:29:02.460 tend to follow

00:29:04.240 the leader.

00:29:05.900 So if one company

00:29:08.280 like Facebook

00:29:08.800 sets the level of censorship,

00:29:10.180 you can expect Twitter

00:29:11.040 and YouTube and Google

00:29:12.100 to follow soon after.

00:29:13.680 Most likely,

00:29:14.140 that's what happened

00:29:14.780 in the case of Alex Jones

00:29:17.140 and Infowars' ban.

00:29:18.560 You know,

00:29:18.820 it was one company

00:29:19.800 after the other

00:29:20.480 kicking them off the platform.

00:29:21.840 Yeah, that was incredible to watch.

00:29:23.880 I think he was banned

00:29:24.460 by six or seven companies

00:29:25.660 in a 24-hour period,

00:29:27.840 including companies

00:29:28.660 that went back

00:29:29.260 and historically

00:29:30.140 deleted everything

00:29:31.620 he had done with them

00:29:32.580 for years,

00:29:33.500 which is a very Stalinist move

00:29:36.260 to destroy history, 0.80

00:29:37.600 to, I mean,

00:29:38.760 obviously hundreds of things

00:29:40.880 that Alex Jones

00:29:41.680 had published were fine.

00:29:43.500 And then it was like

00:29:44.600 the old Roman emperors

00:29:46.560 and their damnatio memoriae

00:29:49.620 where they would damn

00:29:50.520 the memory

00:29:51.120 and annul the memory

00:29:52.160 and scrape the faces

00:29:53.840 off of paintings

00:29:54.940 of anyone who was deemed

00:29:56.700 a non-person.

00:29:57.660 I really think

00:29:58.360 that's terrifying.

00:29:59.500 I got a question for you.

00:30:01.200 I mentioned earlier

00:30:01.980 that the greatest beneficiary

00:30:03.460 of the political journalism,

00:30:05.940 the citizen journalism

00:30:06.800 on social media,

00:30:08.480 the citizen journalism,

00:30:10.500 is Donald Trump.

00:30:11.920 I mean,

00:30:12.260 Brexit was sort of

00:30:13.360 a warning tremor.

00:30:16.200 Donald Trump,

00:30:17.240 now you've seen

00:30:18.160 populists have success.

00:30:20.880 Mario,

00:30:21.640 sorry,

00:30:21.880 Matteo Salvini

00:30:22.840 in Italy.

00:30:24.420 You mentioned

00:30:25.060 Jair Bolsonaro

00:30:25.760 in Brazil.

00:30:26.680 I believe

00:30:30.600 that the depth

00:30:32.500 and breadth

00:30:33.280 of the censorship

00:30:34.080 we've discussed

00:30:34.820 over the last 10 minutes,

00:30:36.640 if allowed to continue,

00:30:39.880 will make Donald Trump

00:30:42.040 unelectable

00:30:42.900 in the year 2020.

00:30:44.600 He is the power user

00:30:46.480 of Twitter,

00:30:47.700 and yet I haven't seen him

00:30:49.280 do a thing

00:30:50.160 about this.

00:30:51.580 Why not,

00:30:52.280 Alan?

00:30:52.440 Well,

00:30:55.120 the one trend

00:30:56.500 we've seen

00:30:57.080 from these tech giants

00:30:58.140 over the last two years

00:30:59.620 is more and more

00:31:00.660 censorship targeted

00:31:01.480 at the right,

00:31:02.220 and the obvious aim

00:31:03.640 of this is to ensure

00:31:04.580 that something like 2016

00:31:05.940 never happens again.

00:31:08.360 Every analyst

00:31:09.440 noted that

00:31:11.020 Donald Trump's

00:31:11.740 digital campaign

00:31:12.600 in 2016

00:31:13.340 totally outclassed

00:31:14.640 Hillary Clinton's.

00:31:16.280 Brad Pascal,

00:31:17.620 who's now

00:31:18.000 Trump's campaign manager,

00:31:20.580 claimed,

00:31:21.140 says that Facebook

00:31:22.280 was the one tool

00:31:23.380 that helped them win

00:31:24.180 in that election.

00:31:26.780 And look,

00:31:27.160 beyond the leaks

00:31:28.560 showing the censorship

00:31:29.640 and the adjustment

00:31:30.500 of search results,

00:31:31.300 you only have to

00:31:32.120 look at

00:31:33.320 the reaction

00:31:34.280 of the Google executives

00:31:35.320 in that video

00:31:36.360 we leaked on Breitbart

00:31:37.420 just crying

00:31:39.240 in meltdown

00:31:40.220 after the election,

00:31:41.980 totally angry,

00:31:43.060 determined

00:31:43.420 to never let it happen again,

00:31:44.660 to use their power,

00:31:45.840 as they said,

00:31:46.700 to push their values.

00:31:49.580 You know,

00:31:49.800 Silicon Valley

00:31:50.320 believes they helped

00:31:51.620 Donald Trump

00:31:52.100 get elected in 2016

00:31:53.220 and they're determined

00:31:54.040 to stop it happening

00:31:54.960 again in 2020.

00:31:56.700 So this really is

00:31:57.400 the most urgent problem

00:31:58.640 for the campaign,

00:32:00.080 for the president,

00:32:01.200 if they want to have

00:32:02.560 a serious shot

00:32:04.320 in 2020

00:32:05.660 because it's not

00:32:06.520 a case like,

00:32:08.120 you know,

00:32:08.380 Donald Trump won

00:32:09.120 by a fairly small

00:32:10.520 electoral margin

00:32:12.440 in the swing states

00:32:14.180 that got him elected.

00:32:14.980 It's not like Brazil 0.85

00:32:15.860 where there was

00:32:16.300 a massive landslide.

00:32:17.260 You know,

00:32:18.660 this is a case

00:32:19.540 where big tech companies

00:32:20.920 can have a serious impact.

00:32:23.220 And the other thing,

00:32:24.260 if I was

00:32:24.780 in Donald Trump's shoes,

00:32:27.540 that would really

00:32:28.100 frustrate me

00:32:28.940 is how,

00:32:29.500 as you said earlier,

00:32:30.280 all this power

00:32:31.060 is shifting

00:32:31.560 to Silicon Valley.

00:32:32.560 It's almost like

00:32:33.320 the president

00:32:34.020 doesn't matter anymore.

00:32:35.320 Politicians don't matter anymore. 0.62

00:32:37.400 Corporations do.

00:32:38.360 You mentioned,

00:32:39.200 I think,

00:32:39.640 I also wrote in an article

00:32:40.920 about two weeks ago

00:32:41.920 about how tech companies

00:32:44.520 are being lobbied

00:32:45.320 like government,

00:32:45.920 something you hit on as well.

00:32:48.680 You know,

00:32:48.880 look at history.

00:32:50.380 Lobbyists have always

00:32:51.500 followed power.

00:32:53.420 So, you know,

00:32:53.720 in the medieval era,

00:32:54.920 you had courtiers

00:32:55.960 hanging out

00:32:56.780 at the palaces

00:32:58.400 of kings and queens

00:32:59.780 trying to win their favor.

00:33:02.320 When democracy

00:33:04.280 replaced kings,

00:33:05.480 the courtiers

00:33:05.980 turned into lobbyists.

00:33:06.980 They moved to state capitals

00:33:08.120 and began their lobbying there.

00:33:09.740 Now they're moving

00:33:10.380 to Silicon Valley.

00:33:11.780 If the lobbyists are going,

00:33:13.440 that means power is shifting.

00:33:14.640 And it's shifting

00:33:15.560 in a very anti-democratic

00:33:16.660 direction.

00:33:17.800 Well, help me out.

00:33:18.800 I agree with every word

00:33:19.600 you said,

00:33:20.420 but here's what I don't get

00:33:21.400 about Donald Trump.

00:33:22.180 Donald Trump

00:33:22.720 is a Manhattan brawler.

00:33:25.760 He was a property developer,

00:33:27.400 which in Manhattan

00:33:28.380 has got to be

00:33:28.860 one of the toughest things.

00:33:29.800 You've got to deal

00:33:30.340 with other cutthroats.

00:33:32.100 You've got to,

00:33:32.780 it's high stakes deals.

00:33:33.960 You've got to deal

00:33:34.440 with the unions

00:33:35.880 that aren't always straight.

00:33:37.380 You've got to deal

00:33:37.940 with city regulators.

00:33:39.560 Like, I can't imagine

00:33:40.460 a tougher business

00:33:41.300 to be in

00:33:42.040 in the United States.

00:33:44.380 And he's a brawler.

00:33:46.600 You know, he's,

00:33:47.540 he's got a reputation.

00:33:48.780 If you punch him,

00:33:49.500 he'll punch you back

00:33:50.120 twice as hard.

00:33:51.360 He gives his enemies,

00:33:53.440 you know,

00:33:54.740 brawler nicknames.

00:33:56.080 Like he's a,

00:33:57.140 he has this reputation

00:33:58.320 as a brutal brawler.

00:33:59.860 And yet I haven't seen

00:34:01.900 even hard words

00:34:03.400 for Silicon Valley.

00:34:05.120 If it's,

00:34:06.320 if it's a,

00:34:06.860 like I've seen him

00:34:07.560 on Twitter

00:34:08.820 denounce companies

00:34:10.560 for doing something wrong.

00:34:11.760 He denounces GM

00:34:13.100 and threatens them

00:34:14.400 with tariffs

00:34:15.020 if they don't

00:34:15.960 move a factory

00:34:16.720 back to America. 0.89

00:34:17.560 I've seen him,

00:34:19.180 one of his first tweets

00:34:20.200 was saying to Boeing,

00:34:21.480 you better get that price

00:34:22.660 down for Air Force One

00:34:23.740 or contract canceled.

00:34:25.060 I remember that one.

00:34:26.260 Where is

00:34:27.420 this pugnacious

00:34:28.720 bully character

00:34:30.240 that we love

00:34:31.280 or hate,

00:34:32.020 depending on your

00:34:32.700 point of view,

00:34:33.180 where is this bully Trump

00:34:34.620 to the guys

00:34:35.980 who are actually

00:34:36.440 trying to kill him?

00:34:38.480 Well,

00:34:38.700 this is a big problem.

00:34:40.100 I mean,

00:34:40.380 Donald Trump grew up

00:34:41.320 in,

00:34:42.420 and lived in the age

00:34:43.680 of TV.

00:34:44.460 He's a very,

00:34:45.000 very much a TV

00:34:45.840 oriented person.

00:34:48.080 And you can,

00:34:48.940 you can see

00:34:49.400 from his Twitter account

00:34:50.420 where his attention

00:34:51.460 is focused.

00:34:52.440 You know,

00:34:52.640 if CNN publishes

00:34:53.840 a dodgy story

00:34:54.680 about Russia,

00:34:55.360 he'll immediately

00:34:55.780 tweet about it.

00:34:56.640 But he didn't

00:34:57.160 immediately tweet

00:34:57.740 about what Facebook

00:34:58.360 was doing yesterday.

00:34:59.480 He will occasionally

00:35:00.300 call out Google,

00:35:01.180 he will occasionally

00:35:01.760 call out Twitter.

00:35:03.360 But you can see

00:35:04.660 he just spends

00:35:05.240 far more time

00:35:06.260 tweeting and talking

00:35:07.200 about the mainstream

00:35:08.680 media and their bias.

00:35:10.080 And that really

00:35:10.600 isn't a threat to him.

00:35:11.660 No one really likes

00:35:12.600 the mainstream media.

00:35:13.420 No one trusts them.

00:35:14.660 The real threat

00:35:15.440 is all these social

00:35:16.760 media platforms

00:35:17.700 that all of his

00:35:18.220 supporters are forced

00:35:19.100 to use,

00:35:20.280 and which help

00:35:20.880 get him elected

00:35:21.420 in 2016

00:35:22.120 and will help

00:35:22.780 get him unelected

00:35:23.600 in 2020

00:35:24.160 if he doesn't

00:35:25.380 do something about it.

00:35:26.640 And, you know,

00:35:26.940 there's no easy answers.

00:35:28.060 There's no easy

00:35:28.660 executive solution.

00:35:29.900 But, you know,

00:35:30.620 there are a lot of tools

00:35:31.700 that the president

00:35:34.500 has.

00:35:35.920 He could potentially

00:35:36.940 ask the DOJ

00:35:38.540 to start an

00:35:39.020 antitrust investigation

00:35:40.080 into Google.

00:35:40.860 Google has banned

00:35:41.780 its competitors

00:35:43.340 from video search

00:35:44.580 results.

00:35:45.120 It's banned news

00:35:46.480 from news sites,

00:35:47.980 from news search

00:35:48.540 results,

00:35:48.860 something that Donald

00:35:49.460 Trump actually did

00:35:50.140 talk about.

00:35:50.940 And he was called

00:35:51.560 a conspiracy theory

00:35:52.340 for it,

00:35:52.640 but it's actually true.

00:35:53.500 It was leaked out

00:35:54.040 a few weeks ago.

00:35:56.200 He could put pressure

00:35:57.580 on Congress

00:35:58.060 to do something.

00:35:59.160 He could put pressure

00:35:59.720 on state governments

00:36:00.340 to do something.

00:36:01.880 State attorney generals,

00:36:03.700 he could simply

00:36:04.400 talk about it more.

00:36:05.340 But he prefers

00:36:06.420 to talk about CNN

00:36:07.240 at the moment,

00:36:07.900 and I think that's

00:36:08.800 a fatal error,

00:36:10.340 and it'll cost him

00:36:11.000 in 2020.

00:36:11.940 Yeah.

00:36:12.360 It's very strange.

00:36:13.340 Let me throw one last thing

00:36:14.220 at you, being very generous

00:36:15.120 with your time.

00:36:15.940 I was looking through

00:36:16.840 a study that was used

00:36:18.800 by Google Canada,

00:36:20.560 and they just announced

00:36:21.360 a $1 million project

00:36:23.020 in Canada to root out 0.97

00:36:24.880 fake news,

00:36:25.840 and we know what that means.

00:36:26.780 And they tested two.

00:36:29.500 So it was a study done

00:36:30.400 by a liberal-leaning

00:36:31.400 research firm

00:36:32.980 called Ernst Clift.

00:36:33.820 It's a lobby group.

00:36:34.980 And they tested

00:36:35.780 a bunch of things.

00:36:37.160 One of the things

00:36:37.640 were they tested

00:36:38.200 alternative media,

00:36:39.640 and they chose two.

00:36:41.040 There's a Canadian

00:36:41.800 alternative media

00:36:42.660 called Rabble.ca.

00:36:44.480 It's a union group.

00:36:46.140 It's a left-wing thing.

00:36:47.580 Yeah, I don't read it,

00:36:48.280 but it's there.

00:36:49.160 And then the conservative

00:36:50.200 alternative they tested,

00:36:52.180 they didn't test

00:36:53.120 the Rabble.

00:36:54.400 They tested

00:36:55.100 Breitbart.com.

00:36:56.440 Now, I love Breitbart,

00:36:57.920 and I think a number

00:36:58.840 of Canadians get the news

00:36:59.880 from Breitbart,

00:37:00.680 but you're really

00:37:01.460 American-focused,

00:37:02.500 and you focus on the UK

00:37:04.060 and things, too.

00:37:05.780 I wonder if that's because

00:37:07.040 they were afraid

00:37:07.680 of testing the rebel,

00:37:09.120 or I wonder if that's because

00:37:10.740 the Trudeau liberals

00:37:13.300 hate Breitbart,

00:37:14.360 and that's a symbol

00:37:15.180 for all the things

00:37:16.720 they don't like.

00:37:17.700 I just found that

00:37:19.080 very odd

00:37:19.680 that a Canadian study

00:37:20.780 about Canadian news,

00:37:23.000 Canada, Canada, Canada,

00:37:24.100 the left-wing

00:37:25.000 alternative they used

00:37:25.840 was Rabble,

00:37:26.380 and the right-wing

00:37:27.000 alternative was Breitbart.

00:37:29.380 I'm just puzzling

00:37:30.420 over that.

00:37:30.980 You know,

00:37:31.540 what's your thoughts?

00:37:32.460 I don't know if I've

00:37:32.960 explained it well enough

00:37:33.720 for you to give

00:37:34.700 an opinion about that,

00:37:35.580 but why would the

00:37:36.280 Canadian government

00:37:37.120 be testing citizens'

00:37:39.120 views on Breitbart.com?

00:37:40.380 I can send you

00:37:41.020 the study if you want

00:37:42.040 to look at it.

00:37:43.900 That's very strange.

00:37:44.960 I mean,

00:37:45.160 to my knowledge,

00:37:46.100 we don't even have

00:37:46.820 a dedicated

00:37:47.480 Canadian affairs reporter.

00:37:49.760 It's possible

00:37:51.940 that the left

00:37:54.520 simply don't

00:37:56.120 spend a lot of time

00:37:57.620 trying to understand

00:37:58.440 the right-wing media,

00:37:59.460 so they'll just pick

00:38:00.180 whatever's in the headlines

00:38:01.500 or whatever they heard

00:38:02.760 about once they do

00:38:03.800 everything they can

00:38:04.620 to avoid right-wing media.

00:38:06.920 You know,

00:38:07.120 they have to go,

00:38:07.940 you know,

00:38:08.160 left-wingers have to go

00:38:08.880 to a safe space

00:38:09.680 if a right-wing speaker

00:38:10.500 comes on campus,

00:38:11.360 so they literally

00:38:12.700 can't come into contact

00:38:13.820 with it,

00:38:14.300 which is very different

00:38:15.000 to, in my experience,

00:38:16.240 to conservatives

00:38:16.720 who will read

00:38:17.400 every news source,

00:38:18.560 even news sources

00:38:19.500 they dislike.

00:38:20.640 So it's possible

00:38:21.520 that the person

00:38:22.340 in charge of that study

00:38:23.080 simply doesn't have a clue,

00:38:24.720 but I'm not sure beyond that.

00:38:28.580 Yeah,

00:38:28.840 it was just very odd,

00:38:29.680 and I thought,

00:38:30.220 since you're here,

00:38:30.860 and you're the senior tech editor

00:38:33.020 for Breitbart,

00:38:33.620 I'd ask you,

00:38:34.300 well,

00:38:34.520 very strange days,

00:38:35.600 and one day,

00:38:37.460 you might wake up

00:38:38.220 and we might be gone,

00:38:39.760 and we might wake up

00:38:40.600 and you might be gone,

00:38:41.980 because that's what happened

00:38:42.760 to Paul Joseph Watson

00:38:43.620 and other friends,

00:38:45.220 and on World Press Freedom Day,

00:38:47.440 no one seems to give a damn

00:38:48.540 and it makes me very sad.

00:38:52.800 Well,

00:38:53.240 I mean,

00:38:53.740 we'll keep fighting

00:38:54.560 and I know you will too,

00:38:55.500 Alam,

00:38:55.660 and I appreciate you

00:38:56.220 being on the show today.

00:38:58.420 Thanks, Ezra.

00:38:59.160 All right,

00:38:59.520 take care.

00:39:00.260 That's our friend,

00:39:00.840 Alam Bokhari,

00:39:01.740 the senior tech editor

00:39:02.840 of Breitbart.com.

00:39:04.560 Forgive me for being sad,

00:39:05.700 but I think that these

00:39:06.400 are sad times

00:39:07.080 if you care about press freedom,

00:39:08.700 and I think Orwell's predictions

00:39:10.480 are coming true too quickly,

00:39:12.880 and those who ought

00:39:14.540 to be motivated

00:39:15.220 to fight back,

00:39:16.060 they don't seem to be.

00:39:17.560 Stay with us.

00:39:18.560 Your letters are next.

00:39:30.700 Hey,

00:39:31.140 welcome back.

00:39:31.520 On my monologue yesterday

00:39:32.480 about a moose jaw teacher

00:39:33.720 bullying a student

00:39:34.980 with a Make America Great Again hat,

00:39:36.440 Betty writes,

00:39:37.560 that teacher is a goddamn liar. 1.00

00:39:40.060 The school should have

00:39:40.720 disciplined that teacher.

00:39:42.760 I think you're right.

00:39:44.100 I mean,

00:39:44.360 and forget about the lying.

00:39:45.360 The lying is the least of it.

00:39:46.280 If someone is willing

00:39:47.000 to threaten a child,

00:39:48.940 yeah,

00:39:49.360 the fact that they lie about it

00:39:50.480 is not,

00:39:51.160 neither a surprise,

00:39:52.260 nor the worst of it.

00:39:54.120 What's so gross

00:39:55.240 is how the school

00:39:56.500 equated the bully

00:39:58.240 and the bullied one,

00:39:59.260 and lied to the media

00:40:00.880 and the media

00:40:01.240 were thrilled

00:40:01.880 to go along

00:40:02.580 with the cover-up.

00:40:03.760 So weird.

00:40:05.800 Harold writes,

00:40:07.580 I'm exceptionally steamed

00:40:08.840 by the Saskatchewan

00:40:09.980 MAGA hat travesty. 0.67

00:40:11.480 Why are there not consequences

00:40:12.600 to stop this kind

00:40:13.420 of hateful bigotry?

00:40:14.500 Well,

00:40:14.880 it's sort of obvious,

00:40:16.180 Harold,

00:40:16.560 because the target

00:40:18.640 of the hatred

00:40:19.520 and the threat,

00:40:20.660 you got a punchable face,

00:40:22.220 was a conservative kid

00:40:23.860 wearing a

00:40:25.000 Make America Great Again hat.

00:40:26.340 If it was a liberal kid,

00:40:28.000 oh,

00:40:28.660 we wouldn't have heard

00:40:29.180 the last of it,

00:40:29.760 and that teacher 0.85

00:40:30.180 would have been fired,

00:40:31.360 and his union

00:40:31.840 wouldn't have backed him up.

00:40:32.860 On my interview

00:40:34.420 with David Menzies,

00:40:35.160 Paul writes,

00:40:36.440 billionaire liberal cronies

00:40:37.720 get taxpayer handouts

00:40:38.660 in the name of saving

00:40:39.680 the planet

00:40:40.480 from certain destruction

00:40:41.560 in 12 years,

00:40:42.380 and the liberals

00:40:42.920 actually announce it

00:40:43.780 as action on climate change.

00:40:47.280 Yeah,

00:40:47.720 you know,

00:40:48.180 I wonder if anyone

00:40:50.620 actually thinks

00:40:51.600 that a carbon tax

00:40:52.880 or free fridges

00:40:53.760 for billionaires

00:40:54.440 will change the weather.

00:40:56.340 Does anyone actually

00:40:57.800 think that through?

00:40:59.900 Because there are floods

00:41:01.380 in Ottawa,

00:41:02.360 we must tax you more.

00:41:04.520 Does that,

00:41:06.260 does the inverse

00:41:07.500 or reverse mean

00:41:08.640 if we tax you more

00:41:10.060 there won't be

00:41:10.600 any more floods

00:41:11.300 in Ottawa?

00:41:11.760 Does anyone

00:41:12.220 think that's how

00:41:14.320 the world works?

00:41:15.740 Don't answer that.

00:41:16.660 If Catherine McKenna

00:41:17.360 here,

00:41:17.680 she would probably 0.94

00:41:18.180 be putting up her hand. 1.00

00:41:20.160 Folks,

00:41:20.420 that's our show

00:41:20.860 for today

00:41:21.740 and brings us

00:41:23.160 to the close of the week.

00:41:23.940 Thank you so much

00:41:24.540 for being part of the Rebel.

00:41:26.040 We will have YouTube vids

00:41:27.360 throughout the weekend

00:41:27.920 and I'll be back on Monday.

00:41:29.220 Until then,

00:41:29.760 on behalf of all of us here

00:41:30.820 at Rebel World Headquarters

00:41:32.140 to you at home,

00:41:32.700 good night.

00:41:33.860 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:41:34.820 Keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - May 04, 2019

It's World Press Freedom Day — Which means it’s actually censorship day

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