Rebel News Podcast - It’s World Press Freedom Day. And Canada keeps hurtling towards censorship.

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Today, I take you through some of the political responses to Stephen

00:00:05.080 Gilboa's proposed censorship bill. He's got a couple of censorship projects in the go.

00:00:09.740 The Conservative Party, thankfully, has come out against Bill C-10. But I got a few clips

00:00:16.200 of the Conservative Party just a few months ago, actually, standing up in Parliament and

00:00:22.400 demanding that Stephen Gilboa censor more and harder. And he names YouTube in particular.

00:00:28.580 But I don't think it'll surprise you, but I'll prove it to you.

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00:01:25.220 Tonight, it's World Press Freedom Day, and Canada keeps hurtling towards censorship. It's May 3rd,

00:01:40.000 and this is the Ezra LeVant Show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon

00:01:46.340 consumer I know? There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I

00:01:52.160 have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:02:02.020 A bit of chutzpah today from Justin Trudeau. You know what the word chutzpah means, right? It's

00:02:06.240 Yiddish. It means audacity. You know that awful joke about a man who kills his parents and then

00:02:12.360 asks the court for mercy because he's an orphan now. That's chutzpah, like O.J. Simpson saying he'll

00:02:17.940 hunt for the real killers. Well, here's Justin Trudeau on World Press Freedom Day. He made this

00:02:24.300 release. I'll read it to you. Today on World Press Freedom Day, we celebrate the invaluable role

00:02:28.700 that journalists play in Canada and around the world and honor all those who have lost their lives

00:02:33.600 in pursuit of the truth. We also rededicate ourselves to a fairer and more inclusive future

00:02:39.360 where everyone, everywhere, is free to make their voices heard. You know, I also care about press

00:02:45.460 freedom around the world too, but I live in Canada and press freedom here is in steep decline. No wonder

00:02:50.960 Trudeau wants to talk about foreign countries instead, but what's that part again about making

00:02:55.680 things fairer and more inclusive? Free speech is free speech. That's the fairness part. Everyone gets to

00:03:01.680 be free, but when regulators and authoritarians and politicians talk about making conversations

00:03:07.160 fairer, they usually mean boosting some voices and censoring others. That's how YouTube talks about

00:03:13.000 it when they censor people. Either speech is free or it isn't. That's sort of the only test for it.

00:03:19.080 Either the press is free or it's not. If there are lots of qualifiers on that, lots of adjectives,

00:03:24.540 it probably means it's not really free. Free and fair don't really go together because that implies

00:03:30.040 you're going to censor things that you determine are unfair. So you're suddenly the judge of how

00:03:35.420 fair my ideas are. We all get to make that judgment for ourselves, not a politician with a censorship

00:03:41.320 power. I'll keep reading from his statement. The theme of this year's World Press Freedom Day is

00:03:46.620 information as a public good. It reminds us that quality, clear, and truthful information is essential

00:03:53.360 for a democratic society based on the values of honesty and respect, fairness and justice, freedom and

00:03:59.280 dignity. I don't know what quality speech is. That's anyone's opinion. Same with clear. It's a matter

00:04:06.980 of opinion how clear things are. Truthful. Well, we all want to tell the truth. Well, actually, I don't

00:04:12.420 think we all do, do we? I mean, politicians often don't. Remember when the Global Mail published their

00:04:17.920 bombshell front page story that Justin Trudeau had fired his justice minister, Jody Wilson-Raybould,

00:04:25.540 because Trudeau wanted to interfere in the corruption trial of SNC-Lavalin. And she wouldn't

00:04:31.740 let him. She wouldn't let him interfere with the trial. Huge story. Completely accurate. Great

00:04:37.740 journalism. Quality and clear. But here's how Trudeau responded to it. The allegations in the Globe story

00:04:44.660 this morning are false. Neither the current nor the previous Attorney General was ever directed by

00:04:53.040 me or by anyone in my office to take a decision in this matter. The allegations reported in the story

00:05:01.320 are false. At no time did I or my office direct the current or previous Attorney General to make any

00:05:11.920 particular decision in this matter. But it was true. Trudeau was the one who was lying. Imagine if

00:05:17.460 that liar Trudeau were in charge of deciding what's true or not, especially about him. And imagine if 0.98

00:05:22.100 he got to censor what he claimed wasn't true, because we see he calls true things untrue if it

00:05:27.800 helps them. I'll read some more from him today. As the global COVID-19 pandemic has shown, timely and

00:05:33.500 reliable information can be the difference between life and death. Yeah, says the guy who wouldn't

00:05:39.100 suspend flights from China but stops you from going to visit your neighbor. Timely and reliable,

00:05:45.700 I like those things too. But again, is Trudeau the decider of that? Here's Teresa Tam telling us not to

00:05:53.700 wear masks. So our advice right now is there is no need to use a mask for well people. And here's Teresa Tam

00:06:01.000 telling us to wear masks. In addition, where COVID-19 activity is occurring, use of non-medical masks

00:06:08.440 or face coverings is recommended. So yeah, who's the reliable one and who gets to decide who's

00:06:14.420 reliable? I'll read more. Canada and Botswana, co-chair of the second global conference for media

00:06:20.560 freedom to strengthen efforts to defend media freedom and push back against disinformation.

00:06:25.600 And Botswana, that's our league now. Hang on, Trudeau went from supporting free speech to

00:06:30.660 pushing back against speech he didn't like pretty quickly, didn't he? That's what he said he would do

00:06:35.700 there. Pushing back. And again, what he calls disinformation is the truth that the Globe and

00:06:42.160 Mail put on their front page and what Teresa Tam says 50% of the time. Trudeau doesn't get to decide

00:06:48.320 what's true or what's not. That's up to you. The media holds politicians to account, not the other

00:06:54.320 way around. The citizens hold politicians to account, not the other way around. He doesn't get to choose.

00:06:59.860 Except he's changing that in Canada. And 99% of the media is going along with it because they're on

00:07:05.320 the payroll now. Trudeau boasts that Canada co-hosted an international media freedom conference.

00:07:10.860 I know. We were there the year previous when it was in London, co-hosted by the UK. Here's how that

00:07:16.940 went. Chrystia Freeland had just given a speech about the importance of journalism and letting 0.99

00:07:21.000 journalists ask tough questions. And then she tried to block our journalists from asking her any 0.87

00:07:27.100 questions. That's a bad sign. Trying to censor journalists

00:07:56.920 at a free speech conference? It's a miracle that the other reporters have refused to go along with

00:08:01.420 it. I'm not sure if the media in Ottawa would stand with us. In fact, I know they wouldn't.

00:08:07.440 Trudeau keeps banning us or trying to. That's how he feels about journalists. He banned us from the

00:08:13.960 leaders' debates in the 2019 election. We had to go to federal court to get an order letting us go in

00:08:19.960 and report on him. Trudeau literally ordered the RCMP to frog march our reporter out of a press

00:08:27.000 conference last year. Trudeau hates us. And he even taunts us from parliament.

00:08:34.460 It is disappointing to see the conservatives engage in peddling rebel media conspiracy theories.

00:08:40.080 So he can taunt us, but he has deputized a convicted criminal named Stephen Gilboe,

00:08:45.340 who's down the heritage minister, convicted criminal. And he's asked Gilboe to make it illegal

00:08:50.040 for us to taunt politicians back. We've seen too many examples of public officials

00:08:56.580 retreating from public service due to the hateful online content targeted towards themselves or even

00:09:03.280 their families. Oh, and Gilboe is actually creating a government agency that will literally

00:09:08.140 have the power to turn off your internet. He calls it a nuclear option. Could we envision having

00:09:14.100 blocking orders? I mean, that's, that, maybe, um, it's not, you know, it's a, it would be,

00:09:23.120 it would likely be a, a last result, last result, uh, nuclear bomb in, in a, in a toolbox of,

00:09:32.400 uh, of mechanism for, for regulation. Now I've been howling about these new plans for months,

00:09:37.660 for years, you could say, maybe even for decades. Finally, some other media are starting to chime in.

00:09:42.900 I think part of it is dumb luck. I mean, thank God Gilboe is just so, so bad at his job. Did you see 0.75

00:09:49.300 this? The bill is about ensuring that these platforms that act like broadcasters pay their

00:09:55.420 fair share when it comes to Canadian culture. So it's about spending obligations, spending

00:10:00.740 requirements. It's not about content moderation. So I, I, I, I'm going to flip the question for a

00:10:05.660 moment here, minister, because it was important enough to put that exclusion there in the first

00:10:10.460 place. Now it's gone. Why was it important in the first place to put it there?

00:10:20.360 We're, we're not interested. I mean, it's not, it's not what the bill is. I mean, I hear you

00:10:24.580 saying you're not interested, but there literally was an exclusion that was put in the original

00:10:28.240 iteration of that bill, the thing that was reviewed, and then it got to committee and

00:10:33.140 bingo, bango, bongo, the exclusion is gone. So why was it important to put it there in the

00:10:37.680 first place such that now the, the committee has removed it?

00:10:43.940 Well, I mean, the, the, the, the committee decides what they want. The bill, first of

00:10:48.500 all, the committee hasn't even finished doing it, doing its work in terms of, of, of the

00:10:53.560 amendments. So, so we don't have a full picture of what the bill will look like when it comes

00:10:59.340 back, when it comes back to the, to the, to the house of common for the third reading.

00:11:03.120 Would you like to see the exclusion back in there?

00:11:07.000 It's not necessary. I mean, so, so.

00:11:09.460 If it's not necessary, why was it there in the first place?

00:11:12.480 Well, you know, we've, we've worked on this for, for, for many months. We, we, we, we came

00:11:18.240 up with what we thought would be the, the, the best possible bill, but, but, but bill can

00:11:22.940 always be perfected. They will be amended and it's not the purpose of the bill. So it's

00:11:28.380 not required to be there because, I mean, this, again, this, this idea that the CRTC

00:11:33.540 would, would start looking, would start doing content moderation is, has, has no basis in

00:11:40.500 reality. In its 40 years of existence, it has never done that. It doesn't have the power

00:11:45.700 to do that. Bill C-10 doesn't grant the CRTC the power to do that. So this whole conversation

00:11:50.440 makes no sense.

00:11:51.460 But a former CRTC chair, Peter Menzies, has said, I'll quote here, granting a government

00:11:56.540 agency authority over legal user generated content. It doesn't just infringe on free

00:12:01.560 expression. It constitutes a full blown assault on it. That is from a former CRTC chair.

00:12:06.920 Oh my gosh, that, that hurt to watch. And I don't even like him. Um, I see that just

00:12:13.480 today it's so bad that the NDP has reversed course and they said they will remove their

00:12:19.240 support for Trudeau's new proposals until they're examined from a free speech point of

00:12:23.200 you. If the NDP is worried about freedom, you know, Gilboa and Trudeau and their bill

00:12:29.020 is really, really bad. And I'm pleased to say that even the awful Conservative Party of

00:12:33.320 Canada, the Erin O'Toole Party, the pro carbon tax, pro CBC, pro cancel culture, pro foreign

00:12:39.500 aid Conservative Party, they realize that they should be on the right side of history on this

00:12:43.780 one too. So they, they waited really until the last minute to choose sides. They say they're

00:12:49.640 against Trudeau's new censorship bill called C-10. I know this because they sent me a fundraising

00:12:55.720 letter asking for money. Listen, I'm, I'm glad they did. If that's the way to control

00:13:00.920 Erin O'Toole, to give him money to be a Conservative and to cut him off when it's not, I don't know.

00:13:06.240 I guess it's honest about who he is and how he operates. Because until just a couple of months

00:13:10.700 ago, Erin O'Toole's Conservatives were actually demanding that Stephen Gilboa go harder and censor

00:13:17.640 more. I wish I were kidding. I'm referring to, to L.M. Reyes. That's Erin O'Toole's critic for the

00:13:25.020 Heritage Minister. So he's the free speech point man for Erin O'Toole. I say that with a laugh

00:13:29.820 because of course, he's against free speech. I don't know if you recall this story from a couple

00:13:34.520 months back. You'll, you'll remember that, that Ellen Reyes denounced Canada's most pro-freedom

00:13:43.180 newspaper. It's called the Epoch Times. I love it. Alan Reyes denounced the Epoch Times, smearing that

00:13:48.800 newspaper as a conspiracy theory, uh, newspaper. And he demanded that the Epoch Times alone not get

00:13:56.280 any more government grants. Uh, the Conservatives have never said that about the CBC or about the

00:14:02.080 Toronto Star or the Globe and Mail, just about the Epoch Times. You can see why Erin O'Toole likes

00:14:07.240 Alan Reyes. But look at this. Here's Reyes in Parliament just a few months ago telling Gilboa

00:14:13.060 that the Liberals have to be tougher with freedom, especially the internet. He's calling on the

00:14:20.800 government to control the interest, the internet more forcefully. Take a look. There was the Real

00:14:26.540 Report. And the idea is to have web giants covered by the Canadian Broadcasting Act. I think there's a

00:14:38.100 consensus among parties and stakeholders that the Broadcasting Act needs to be modernized. And

00:14:45.640 there's also a consensus among many stakeholders. And I'm convinced among the other opposition parties

00:14:52.200 that the legislation should have included web giants and social media and a number of other

00:15:00.000 things. Did you get that? The law should censor social media, Alan Reyes said. The so-called

00:15:07.200 Conservative wants the bill to be more brutal on YouTube and Facebook and Twitter. And he said this

00:15:12.960 too on the same day, just back in November. We say that this was highly awaited. I think we were

00:15:21.320 expecting a bit more. This legislation should include things like print media. They are having

00:15:31.660 a hard time surviving because of declining revenues. The minister explained that the liberal strategy

00:15:41.800 is to divide these issues up into many parts.

00:15:47.700 Be more robust and get into print media? The Conservatives want the liberals to get into censoring print media.

00:15:55.500 Yeah, thanks buddy. We already have an NDP party and a Liberal party and a Communist party. Take a look at this.

00:16:02.040 But we don't see it in the bill. There's nothing in this bill that allows for the regulation of

00:16:12.380 social media or platforms like YouTube. And it's clear we would have liked to have seen this in

00:16:18.620 the bill. The minister even says we have to find a way of preventing hate speech, conspiracy theories and fake news

00:16:28.100 that's shared. But right now in the bill, unfortunately, we won't even be able to amend it in that aspect

00:16:36.740 and because it's simply absent from the bill.

00:16:39.000 Did you catch that? The Conservative Party was pleading with Stephen Gilbeau and Justin Trudeau,

00:16:44.600 asking them to take a harder line with the internet and YouTube in particular.

00:16:48.600 They named YouTube, who do you think they're talking about, to weed out conspiracies and misinformation.

00:16:54.720 The Conservatives were demanding that. That guy there was Alan Reyes. He's a Conservative spokesman.

00:16:59.400 He's Aaron O'Toole's point man on this. Could you imagine any political party of any stripe

00:17:04.140 with that power over you? The power to determine which opinions were good and which opinions were bad?

00:17:09.640 Which questions could be asked and which questions couldn't be?

00:17:12.540 No party should ever have that power. But imagine being so stupid that you want to give that power 1.00

00:17:20.620 to your opposing political rivals. Yeah, I'm glad Aaron O'Toole's useless Conservatives have had a last-minute 1.00

00:17:28.280 change of heart when they saw the polls and saw the fundraising. But never forget,

00:17:32.680 the entire political class, the entire establishment, they all want to control what you say

00:17:39.020 and what you're allowed to see and allowed to hear. Stay with us for more.

00:17:44.260 It's open. Where are they? Why they're not here? This is such a hypocrisy that they have been hunting

00:18:03.020 me for months to walk in. Well, it's open. Walk in and inspect if that's what you want.

00:18:09.260 Where are they? I talked to the lawyers and we said, okay, fine. Let them inspect the facility if that's what

00:18:14.540 they want to really do. But it's proving my point that that was never about inspecting the facility.

00:18:20.380 This was about shutting us down. That's the purpose. And they couldn't shut us down today

00:18:25.740 because it was too many people. It proves my point from the very beginning that they're not interested in health

00:18:33.340 and checking if the facility meets their standards. They're interested in destroying Christianity in this country. 0.64

00:18:39.900 They hate freedom. They hate everything that is just and holy. That's why they're here.

00:18:48.860 But we're not going to give more attention to the hyenas.

00:18:52.460 We eat hyenas for breakfast.

00:19:02.460 We are a pack of lions.

00:19:07.020 Well, you might recognize that face. You certainly recognize that voice. That's our friend,

00:19:11.020 Pastor Arthur Pavlovsky. He has a church in Calgary. He's gone viral internationally for videos he's filmed

00:19:17.900 when the government of Alberta and city police in Calgary have attempted to enter his church in the middle of church services.

00:19:25.340 I should tell you that that's actually against the law. Our criminal code section 176-2

00:19:31.260 specifically makes it a crime to disturb or interrupt any church service.

00:19:37.180 So why the police and the Alberta government choose to come to his church at that particular hour?

00:19:43.900 I mean, why are they coming at the one illegal, interrupting, disrupting time?

00:19:49.420 Well, it's to assert their dominance. As Arthur would say, it's the hyenas trying to attack the lions.

00:19:58.780 You may also know, because I've told you before, that Arthur was the first of our fight the fines tickets.

00:20:05.980 I just checked with our lawyer and we have 1,103 cases. Let's just call it 1,100 cases.

00:20:12.780 Arthur was client number one. We beat that first charge for him. But he's been given not just tickets,

00:20:19.740 but all sorts of court orders, very dramatic, much more complicated than a typical ticket. And joining

00:20:27.340 us now is the reporter who filmed that little clip on the weekend to give us a report from how it was

00:20:33.580 this weekend at the church and what we think will happen in the days ahead. I'm talking about our new

00:20:38.460 Calgary-based correspondent, Adam Sose, who joins us now. Adam, great to see you.

00:20:42.220 Hey, thanks very much for having me.

00:20:43.980 Well, thanks for being here. And I know you've done some videos for us already and Sheila has

00:20:48.860 spoken with you, but it's the first time you're on our show. Just a quick intro for our viewers who

00:20:53.660 might not know you joined the rebel team about a week or two ago. And before that, you actually

00:20:58.060 worked with our friends at the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, the JCCF with John Carpe.

00:21:03.020 Is that right? That's right. Well, those are good folks. They're busy battling very similar

00:21:08.380 fights to us all the time. So we keep track of their efforts and try and write about them whenever

00:21:13.580 we can. So tell me what it was like. I mean, I saw the one minute clip we just played.

00:21:18.940 Looked like there were hundreds of people there. I understand that there were police there,

00:21:23.500 but they did not try and get in the church and they did not try to arrest Pawlowski.

00:21:27.820 Yeah. I mean, there had to be at least 40 cops. As you drove up, there was police stationed

00:21:34.860 quite a few blocks around ready to move in. The Hawk police helicopter did a few flyovers

00:21:40.700 throughout the day. They were definitely making us clear and present that they were not going to

00:21:46.860 allow things to sort of escalate. But they were met with a very peaceful protest. Pastor Artur

00:21:52.540 Pawlowski, for all his outspokenness and fervor, one of the first things he said is that this is

00:21:58.300 peaceful and we will not escalate to violence. So he kept things calm. You could tell the police

00:22:03.100 very quickly realized it was a waste of time to be there and that this was just going to be a

00:22:07.900 peaceful assembly. They were speaking politely. They were very friendly, very friendly, cordial

00:22:12.540 towards us, unlike other police forces we've seen across the country. And they even spoke with

00:22:17.100 Pastor Artur Pawlowski, shook his hand and had a full conversation. We captured that as well.

00:22:21.180 So they were present, but they were in rather good spirits for a change.

00:22:25.340 So you're saying the police were polite?

00:22:27.420 They were very, yeah. I know a neighbor actually stepped onto someone's lawn when we were shooting

00:22:33.020 an interview. And I asked him if he could just step off the neighbor's lawn. And I caught this

00:22:37.340 on camera. The police came over and gave a little bow and said, you're a gentleman. Thank you. So they

00:22:41.100 were very polite to us, actually.

00:22:43.500 Well, don't be fooled. I mean, they'll do what they have to do. I mean, I'm sure there are

00:22:47.660 some good guys there who are saying, what on earth are we doing?

00:22:51.340 Yeah.

00:22:51.820 Deploying 40 SWAT team and a police helicopter. I mean, if you're raiding a Hells Angels biker

00:22:59.100 gang and you're worried someone's going to sneak out the back, you deploy the helicopter. If you're

00:23:03.740 some highway chase, you need a helicopter to make sure you don't get lost. You deploy a police

00:23:09.660 helicopter. And did you say 40 cops, four zero?

00:23:12.540 Probably some. I mean, I noticed at least, at least probably 12 police vehicles. There was a

00:23:18.860 large police van. There was unmarked vehicles. Like they had the big paddy wagon in case they

00:23:23.660 have to haul a bunch of people away. There was a significant force out. So there was certainly,

00:23:27.820 there was a show of force. But again, they were met with nice, positive Christians who just want

00:23:32.060 to go out to the street and feed people and worship in peace. So immediately they realized that

00:23:36.620 there's no real need for this. But they were certainly not shying away from the show of force.

00:23:41.180 Yeah. Well, you know, I've been following Arthur Pawlowski for about a decade. I remember first

00:23:46.700 doing a story about him way back at Sun News. And I know that the police have been hassling him long

00:23:51.340 before this lockdown. They hate the fact that he feeds the homeless without a permit. There's some

00:23:57.260 hate. I mean, he, Arthur tells me he's been to court 100 times. And I thought, come on, you're

00:24:04.300 exaggerating. No, it's, he actually has. So I think we're just, the fact that we're,

00:24:10.060 we're crowdfunding a lawyer for him. I think that that might even be new. I don't,

00:24:14.220 I think he has had some lawyers before, but we're really trying to help him here. Now you

00:24:21.820 have found out that his freedoms are probably going to come to an end in four days. Tell me

00:24:28.380 why you think that. Yeah. So we had, we had our small victory for freedom, despite the large police

00:24:33.980 presence. The end of the day, the sentiment was, was one of victory for freedom in Alberta. He got to

00:24:38.620 preach. He got in his car and he left away a free man. There was no conflicts, no incidents. So we

00:24:43.420 have that short lived victory. The government's not one to let pastors in Alberta apparently have

00:24:49.420 victories, even if that means feeding the homeless and preaching. So unfortunately, today we learned

00:24:54.620 that he received from Alberta Health Services, a work order stipulating all these guidelines that had

00:24:59.820 to be met by May 7th, which basically would be the day before the next worship would proceed.

00:25:06.940 This is similar to the work order that was received by Grace Life Church and Pastor Coates

00:25:12.140 on December 17th, which eventually led to the church being fenced up when the criteria were not

00:25:17.420 met and Pastor Coates being arrested. So the sense of victory and maybe some reasonability from police

00:25:23.660 force was very short lived. And we suspect that there's a possibility that when these standards,

00:25:29.100 or if these standards are not met by Friday, we could see similar situations with fences going up and

00:25:34.700 arrests being made. Yeah. Well, you know, I wonder if this church could get the same work orders,

00:25:42.300 as they're called, that Costco and Walmart get from the Alberta government or movie productions,

00:25:48.220 which are allowed, or the NHL, which is allowed to play. I wonder if these are work orders that only

00:25:54.060 apply to Christian churches. But there is one thing that makes this very interesting to me.

00:25:57.740 You mentioned Pastor Coates. He's actually on trial today. Sheila Gunn-Reed is covering that trial

00:26:05.340 up in Edmonton. Pastor Coates and Pastor Arthur Pawlowski could not be more opposite in their personality

00:26:13.580 and their expression. Pastor Coates, very conflict averse, very mild mannered, turned himself in

00:26:22.220 to be arrested, submitted quietly in a lot of ways. And then once he was out, they're meeting in secret

00:26:30.060 in an underground church in Edmonton, which is outrageous. That's the kind of thing they do in

00:26:34.540 communist China. But he was not full of fire and brimstone. You didn't hear him talking about

00:26:40.380 being lions against hyenas. Arthur Pawlowski became a viral sensation when he said, get out,

00:26:48.220 get out. Just a quick reminder. Here's a clip of that. Please get out. Get out of this property.

00:26:55.180 Immediately get out. Get out of this property. Immediately. Out. I don't want to hear anything.

00:27:02.380 Out of this property. Immediately. I don't want to hear a word. Out. Out. Out of this property.

00:27:10.540 Immediately out. Immediately go out and don't come back. I don't want to talk to you. Not a word. Out of this

00:27:32.220 property. Out. Out. Out. Out of this property. You Nazis. Out. Out. Out. Gestapo is not allowed here.

00:27:48.380 Immediately. Gestapo is not allowed. Out. Do you understand English? Get out of this property.

00:27:59.420 So, you know, like casting out demons or something or the moneylenders from the temple or something. Who

00:28:06.860 knows? But, but that's, that's a completely different approach. I don't know what's going

00:28:12.060 to happen. I don't think Arthur Pawlowski is going to turn himself in quietly at the police station like

00:28:17.820 Pastor Coach did. We're going to see the second pastor in Alberta thrown in prison. I just think as

00:28:26.620 sure as day follows night, Pastor Arthur Pawlowski is going to be thrown in prison. I just think,

00:28:33.820 I just think that's the train track we're on and the train is moving.

00:28:37.900 I mean, I certainly agree. I think it's inevitable. And I think it is important,

00:28:41.580 though, for those who might think of Pastor Arthur Pawlowski as this character, as this

00:28:47.180 permanently fired up guy. He's like, he's like a bear. He's cuddly. He's nice. He's warm and fuzzy.

00:28:53.660 When he's with his kids, when he's with his family, when you, when you visit him, it's like being invited

00:28:58.140 in by a Polish family member. He's not this out there screaming, constantly angry guy. He's very calm

00:29:05.180 and very kind and very affectionate. You really have to be going after his flock. You have to be

00:29:10.940 targeting the homeless community that he feeds or the people who have gone through difficult

00:29:14.940 circumstances and are finding sanctuary in his place of worship. That's when you unleash that

00:29:19.900 angry Polish bear. So that's not him permanently. That's his response to the situation. And I can

00:29:24.460 assure you, and Pastor Arthur has assured me of this as well, he will not back down. You can do what

00:29:29.100 you want to him. He will not get violent, but he will not let people come after his flock. And

00:29:35.100 he'll, he'll, he'll stand by that, even if that means he's going to jail.

00:29:38.780 Well, it's incredible. I'm very glad that we've got a good lawyer on the file. In fact,

00:29:42.300 I spoke to his lawyer on Friday. I asked him to put a second lawyer from the same firm on the case,

00:29:48.060 because I think it's going to get big and complicated quickly. And I, I really think the

00:29:53.820 city has a vendetta against them the same way, the city and the province, the same way they do

00:29:58.540 against Grace Life. So I think this is going to have a conflagration for folks who want to help

00:30:04.700 our client, the very first client, Arthur Pawlowski, who set up a special crowdfunding page for him at

00:30:10.780 savearthur.com. And that's A-R-T-U-R, savearthur.com. And actually donations to that are through a

00:30:17.980 registered charity called the Democracy Fund. So you actually get a charitable tax receipt at tax time,

00:30:23.180 which is good. So if you were going to make a hundred dollar donation, you get 20 bucks back

00:30:26.780 in tax time. So, you know, I, I made a hundred dollar donation myself. So I'd rather spend that

00:30:32.620 last 20 bucks on fighting for civil liberties and giving it to Trudeau. Just FYI to folks, I'm,

00:30:38.780 I'm thrilled that we have that access to that charity for civil liberties projects that have

00:30:43.980 been taken over by the charity. Well, listen, I hope you stay on this story very closely.

00:30:48.540 Um, I find that most media hate Arthur Pawlowski or rooting for the government to snuff him out.

00:30:57.980 And if they cover the story at all, like today's, like the Calgary Herald was just completely

00:31:02.860 outrageous, accusing him of violence, accusing him of fighting with his Antifa neighbors. It was just

00:31:09.820 an outrageous story in the Herald. I think the media either ignores him or defames him. I think we

00:31:16.460 at Rebel News have a special duty to be the folks telling the truth about him and just point the

00:31:21.980 camera at things and let it roll because that's the, that's as close to the facts as you can ever

00:31:26.540 get. And it'll be a rebuttal to the liars in the media party. Last word to you, Adam.

00:31:33.180 Yeah. And I think I can't emphasize enough. And Pastor Arthur has been so adamant in this.

00:31:38.060 He needs his pack of lines. He can't fight this alone. Um, he's not going to give up, but without

00:31:43.260 the support of people like you going to saveArthur.com and making a contribution, these legal

00:31:47.660 fees will just stack up. Um, he needs everybody's support in order to be able to fight this battle.

00:31:53.180 So I encourage anyone, if you are able, as Ezra said, go to saveArthur.com, contribute what you

00:31:58.060 can and be part of the fight for freedom. Yeah. And just so folks know, none of that

00:32:02.700 money goes to Rebel News. It only goes to the Civil Liberties Project. Um, I mean, this is going to be

00:32:09.260 as big a case as pastor codes. It's going to be bigger because Arthur will not go quietly.

00:32:15.340 And I think it's, it's quite something that the province whose motto is strong and free,

00:32:20.300 that's Alberta, strong and free is the official motto, fortis et liber in Latin,

00:32:26.140 is the only place in the free world that I know of that has actually jailed a pastor. They've done it

00:32:32.540 once and it looks like they're going to do it. I mean, lightning striking twice, um, in the same

00:32:38.940 province, two pastors jailed. Um, that is shocking. I'm an Alberta boy originally. I find this so alien

00:32:46.780 to me. And so I feel a special duty to help. Adam, you keep it up. We'll keep it up over here too.

00:32:51.660 Thanks very much. All right. There you have it. Adam Sose, one of our newest contributors based in

00:32:55.580 Calgary, doing a great job. Go to saveArthur.com for all of the news about this case. Stay with us,

00:33:01.340 more. Hey, welcome back. ML writes, when we said we wanted a regional approach,

00:33:17.420 we meant less restrictions for rural areas, not more for urban. This feels vindictive and punitive.

00:33:24.780 Listen, there is no rationale to any of these lockdowns.

00:33:28.140 Um, I think if you look at the United States, every U S state is freer than Canada and the

00:33:36.460 freest U S states are practically back to normal there and they don't have worse outcomes. In fact,

00:33:43.340 Alberta, which is talking about curfews has a higher rate of cases. If you're worried about that,

00:33:49.180 than any U S state, this is just the deep state in Canada, the public health, deep state,

00:33:54.060 trying to control the world as they have for the last year.

00:33:59.020 Amazing writes, 80% of the people who have died are overweight or obese. 90% of the people who have

00:34:04.620 died are over 70. This is not even taking into account the other comorbidities that increase the

00:34:09.820 risk of dying. You know, you can get a lot of those stats on any government website. I think one of the

00:34:18.300 best stats pages is actually the province of Alberta, 97% of people who've died from the virus

00:34:25.420 have serious underlying health conditions. So I don't mean like just a, a trivial thing. I'm talking

00:34:31.500 about a stroke, cancer, dementia, uh, diabetes, uh, things like that. And about three quarters of

00:34:39.500 people have three or more of those. So it simply is not a risk you face. For example, this weekend,

00:34:46.540 going to that anti-lockdown rodeo outside, which is another factor. I, I think this is all public

00:34:52.300 health theater. Um, open air rights, 2023 can't come soon enough. That's very funny. And yet I saw

00:35:01.900 a headline the other day that Trudeau is ordering vaccines, uh, all the way into the year 2024.

00:35:08.940 You don't think he loves his permanent state of emergency, lets him spend what he want,

00:35:13.500 regulate what he wants, doesn't have to talk to journalists if he doesn't want to, doesn't

00:35:17.660 have to go to parliament, just gets to stay at home and says, oh, it's the virus. He loves it.

00:35:23.500 He's part of the lockdown class. You and me aren't. That's our show for today. Until tomorrow,

00:35:29.500 on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, see you at home. Good night

00:35:33.020 and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - May 04, 2021

It’s World Press Freedom Day. And Canada keeps hurtling towards censorship.

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