Rebel News Podcast - Joe Biden's president. Now what for the oilsands and Keystone XL？

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00:00:05.080 Tonight my guest is Robbie Picard from Oil Sand Strong and we're talking about how awful Joe Biden is

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00:01:23.200 So I think Joe Biden is president.

00:01:31.140 So now what?

00:01:32.280 What does this mean for Alberta?

00:01:34.220 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gun Show.

00:01:53.200 Well, Joe Biden might actually be one of those rare politicians, very rare,

00:02:00.080 that actually does what he says he's going to do.

00:02:02.440 And normally, that's kind of a good thing, keeping your word.

00:02:06.440 But in this instance, it's going to be an absolute nightmare for us here in Alberta

00:02:11.580 because Joe Biden says that he's going to cancel the Keystone XL pipeline.

00:02:16.880 This should all come as absolutely no surprise to anybody who's been paying even the loosest

00:02:24.120 amount of attention here.

00:02:25.840 Biden was part of the Obama administration that repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly

00:02:32.100 blocked the pipeline from Alberta to the Gulf.

00:02:35.740 Biden campaigned on blocking Keystone XL.

00:02:39.000 He would not shut up about it.

00:02:40.740 He picked an anti-Keystone XL running mate named Kamala Harris.

00:02:46.740 So when I see politicians, and in particular conservative politicians who just couldn't get past

00:02:54.360 their personal dislike for Trump's personality, to realize that Trump was the best president

00:03:00.820 for Alberta and therefore the best president for Canada, now expressing sadness and disappointment

00:03:07.820 and feigning being caught completely off guard by the cancellation of the pipeline.

00:03:14.120 Well, what did you people think Biden was going to do?

00:03:18.680 Based on his running mate selection, he's now beholden to the radical green socialist wing

00:03:25.740 of the Democrat Party, which I think has basically taken over the entire Democrat Party at this point.

00:03:32.980 Anyway, this is really, really bad news for the oil patch and for Alberta, and in particular,

00:03:41.300 Hardesty and Oyen, the two construction hub towns for Keystone XL.

00:03:46.040 And another cancelled pipeline means more layoffs in the patch.

00:03:51.080 So joining me now to discuss all this and so much more is my good friend, Robbie Picard,

00:03:57.280 from Oil Sand Strong, in an interview we recorded Tuesday afternoon.

00:04:02.980 We'll be right back.

00:04:32.960 So first of all, because, well, because Joe Biden is going to do something seriously devastating

00:04:42.080 to the Alberta economy, and it's something that he promised us that he would do, so I

00:04:48.100 don't know why everybody seems so shocked and disappointed.

00:04:50.600 We should have, I mean, it's why I'm pro-Trump, is because he was a lifeline for Alberta.

00:04:56.300 But Joe Biden said that on the first day of his presidency, which we're filming this on Tuesday,

00:05:04.580 so I suppose that starts tomorrow, he will rescind the Keystone XL pipeline permit.

00:05:10.720 Again, this should come as no shock to us.

00:05:12.800 He was part of the administration, or the Obama administration that blocked Keystone,

00:05:18.540 and he campaigned on cancelling it.

00:05:20.960 So, I don't know, I just want to hear your thoughts, because, I mean, you live, eat, sleep,

00:05:27.540 and breathe the oil and gas industry.

00:05:30.260 Your oil stands strong.

00:05:32.460 What does the future hold for us?

00:05:34.820 Well, you know, I'm actually going to be brutally critical of ourselves.

00:05:39.420 We knew this was coming.

00:05:41.780 He said it was coming.

00:05:43.540 Obama got rid of it the first time.

00:05:45.760 And, you know, there's no guarantee that Trump was going to get back in.

00:05:48.880 So, why are we acting surprised?

00:05:52.060 I know so many people, oil executives that I was talking to, say, you know, Biden,

00:05:56.660 he's just saying that to get elected, and, you know, it's going to be good,

00:06:00.720 because he's going to go after fracking.

00:06:01.900 And the bottom line is that, you know, I mean, I know politicians don't typically do what they

00:06:08.560 say they're going to do, but we should have took him at his word.

00:06:11.500 He's kept his word.

00:06:12.820 And now we're in a mess.

00:06:14.780 And I'm not surprised in the least.

00:06:19.040 I knew this was going to happen.

00:06:20.440 And I'm shocked, bluntly, that we put so much into it, instead of, you know, like,

00:06:25.480 maybe revisiting Energy East, or working on the Northern Gateway Pipeline, or just ensuring

00:06:31.020 that we actually finish the Trans Mountain.

00:06:32.860 I mean, we spend all this time talking about the Americans, the Americans this, the Americans

00:06:37.760 this, Trump this, Biden that.

00:06:39.860 And meanwhile, our industry, unjustifiably, is dying the death of a thousand cuts.

00:06:45.520 And I mean, he said he was going to cut it, and he did.

00:06:49.900 And this is just the beginning.

00:06:52.300 You know, they are going to come after our oil, and they're going to paint us with a brush

00:06:57.200 that's not true, like they have for years.

00:06:58.880 They're a bit empowered right now, and we need to get ready for it.

00:07:03.460 And if nothing else, we need to at least ensure that we get our oil to the coast, so we have

00:07:09.620 a chance of competing.

00:07:11.060 I mean, I'm not surprised or shocked.

00:07:13.700 I'm more shocked how shocked we are that he canceled it.

00:07:17.560 And I mean, and yes, we can go to court, and we can have an endless battle on a pipeline

00:07:22.400 that's been, we've been fighting for 10 years.

00:07:24.460 I wish it was built.

00:07:25.720 I wish it was finished.

00:07:26.460 I feel really bad that these people who are tomorrow are going to instantaneously lose

00:07:29.960 their jobs, and their hope, and their dreams, and their future, and they're going to go

00:07:33.280 through depression in the worst possible time.

00:07:36.060 But I'm not one bit surprised, and I'm more shocked how reactive we are.

00:07:41.200 The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different

00:07:44.780 results.

00:07:45.220 And we seem to do that here in Canada, in Alberta, all the time.

00:07:47.940 So, I guess my question is, what does this mean for energy investment in Alberta?

00:07:56.320 What does this mean for projects going forward?

00:07:58.660 I mean, we're just getting into the heart of the winter drilling season, and frankly,

00:08:03.740 it's slow out there.

00:08:05.460 It has been slow for a long time.

00:08:07.480 But are we ever going to see investment if, first off, we can't get our oil to market here

00:08:14.300 in Canada?

00:08:15.060 Like, we can't go east or west these days.

00:08:19.180 And we can't go south.

00:08:21.120 So, what happens to us?

00:08:22.640 I hope we can finish the Trans Mountain.

00:08:31.580 And I hope that because now, you know, that there is oil being shipped through the Panama

00:08:36.460 Canal that's ending up on the east coast of Canada, that maybe we can get the energy

00:08:41.400 east or a pipeline like it.

00:08:43.460 And I'm happy that so many Indigenous people are supporting pipelines now like I've never 1.00

00:08:50.080 seen, and they understand this pandemic has scared a lot of people into the realization

00:08:55.980 that oil development is important.

00:08:59.520 And if we're not going to develop it, countries are going to develop it with horrible human 1.00

00:09:03.440 rights records and less environmental centers than we have.

00:09:06.840 And the realization that green energy isn't so green.

00:09:11.000 I mean, I think that's coming.

00:09:12.940 I'm terrified.

00:09:13.680 I don't believe for a second that this push towards green energy has anything to do with

00:09:18.320 the environment or climate change.

00:09:20.580 It has to do with this push for socialism.

00:09:23.360 And I think you're going to see that coming more and more in the days to come.

00:09:28.900 And I think that's the reality that people want.

00:09:31.840 There's this impression that universal income is going to help happen.

00:09:35.220 And somehow, this is the avenue used to pick to choose it.

00:09:39.540 So, but I've been doing this for quite a while.

00:09:41.360 And I would argue that I've had some of the most success out of pretty much all the

00:09:45.500 advocates and I don't know what to do right now.

00:09:48.880 I really don't.

00:09:49.620 I mean, like I, the people that I think, you know, are brilliantly smart at this, like

00:09:54.960 are blowing my mind that they don't see what's coming down the pipe, so to speak.

00:09:59.760 And we need to be far more intelligent than we have been.

00:10:04.060 And I'm not surprised.

00:10:05.800 I'm not shocked about the Keystone Pipeline.

00:10:08.640 I knew that Biden was going to cancel it.

00:10:10.360 So, I mean, you, I think that, like, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta work on sure things.

00:10:18.960 And I mean, right now, the only, the real thing we have to focus on is Trans Mountain

00:10:21.940 and hope that that gets completed.

00:10:24.140 And I think it will.

00:10:25.280 That's looking good.

00:10:26.340 But I mean, who knows?

00:10:27.300 Well, for me, I think Trans Mountain with Biden in power is in serious jeopardy.

00:10:34.780 And I'll tell you why.

00:10:36.240 Because I think the foreign funded interlopers and meddlers who dump money into Canada to 0.97

00:10:44.220 block pipelines are going to feel emboldened and empowered.

00:10:47.860 Because now, not only do they have an ally in Justin Trudeau, but they also have fierce

00:10:55.240 allies throughout the entire Biden administration.

00:10:59.080 And I'm worried that it's just going to be a free-for-all blocking Canadian energy projects.

00:11:08.200 Well, you know, I mean, I agree with you.

00:11:11.220 And it's been like that since we started.

00:11:13.020 Um, the only hope I have is that we're used to it, um, and Trans Mountain is on our side

00:11:19.700 of the border.

00:11:20.940 But, uh, I, I, I'm worried, I'm, I'm worried, I'm, I'm worried what is coming down, uh, what's

00:11:27.540 coming down the pipe.

00:11:28.340 And I'm, I'm also, I think that it's insane.

00:11:31.360 And I think that, uh, we have to, honestly, you know, I don't know what we have to do, but

00:11:36.780 we have to take this more seriously.

00:11:38.120 And, like, I mean, the second that Biden even, uh, even had a chance of, like, before

00:11:46.260 Trump, uh, you know, when, when Biden, I guess, won that night, or they thought he was going

00:11:51.320 to be president, they should have had a team of people there immediately trying to work

00:11:55.320 on this.

00:11:56.500 Um, I'm not sure what Trans Mountain's doing.

00:11:58.500 I think that these, these pipeline companies and these oil companies need to get a little

00:12:02.780 bit more savvy in their communications and understand that this is a different world.

00:12:06.140 And it's not, I mean, and I mean, I, I don't fault them completely.

00:12:09.740 They're in the pipeline business.

00:12:10.980 And I think that the Keystone pipeline, um, that's what I meant to say, or, um, um, the

00:12:17.120 Keystone pipeline is a very safe and a good energy efficient pipeline that is, you know,

00:12:22.700 net zero emissions.

00:12:23.640 But they're just saying that now that should have been on every billboard across the whole

00:12:27.780 pipeline two years ago.

00:12:29.420 So I have no idea what to make of it.

00:12:31.960 I mean, I'm just, we'll have to take it one step at a time, day by day, but I mean, it's

00:12:37.700 definitely going to be interesting.

00:12:39.940 Now, I'm concerned that our energy companies are going to do more of the same, the social

00:12:46.580 license nonsense, the, um, cooperating with the far left radicals who want to shut them

00:12:52.680 down in an effort to, uh, I don't know, curry their favor, get them to lay off.

00:12:57.640 Um, I'm worried they're going to do more of that.

00:13:01.540 Um, we saw it here during Rachel Notley's time as premier and it didn't get anybody anywhere.

00:13:08.020 And I'm worried we're going to see more of that.

00:13:10.120 And you work in advocacy messaging.

00:13:13.320 So I guess I'll ask you how effective has that strategy been?

00:13:19.340 Because I don't see any good that ever came of it.

00:13:22.860 Well, I would argue a little bit though, in Notley's defense and the early stages that

00:13:31.520 when she decided to go a little bit pro pipeline, she was able to talk to a group of people that

00:13:37.360 the oil companies and the conservatives couldn't quite reach.

00:13:41.160 I don't know what the answer is now, but the way I see it now is that, um, all of our strategies

00:13:49.060 have to change and we need to find a center approach, a common sense approach that people

00:13:54.040 understand that oil and gas development benefits everybody.

00:13:58.520 And I'm personally going to try to make it like, I used to be very nonpartisan and work

00:14:03.240 with all the parties.

00:14:03.920 And I think we leaned a little bit more conservative lately.

00:14:06.200 I'm going to try to push myself back a little bit and just try to talk to regular people,

00:14:10.420 no matter what political way they vote and say like, look, this isn't our best interest

00:14:15.720 for the future and the sovereignty of our country.

00:14:18.260 And it is important that we find common ground.

00:14:21.320 And I'm going to try so hard to find common ground.

00:14:24.260 It's hard because we have never been more polarized in history.

00:14:28.240 Uh, we've never, we've, we've never, I don't think we've ever seen a time like that's so

00:14:33.120 bizarre.

00:14:33.700 And like, I'll, I'll touch on the Capitol, the riots a little bit.

00:14:38.100 Um, I was blown away by the incompetence and arrogance and slight narcissism of Anderson

00:14:46.100 Cooper, the way he spoke to, you know, basically said that these guys are all going to go back

00:14:51.620 to the Olive Garden and the Holiday Inn, like there's something wrong with the Olive Garden

00:14:56.480 or the Holiday Inn.

00:14:58.020 It, it goes to show that no one on either side of the spectrum is listening and understanding

00:15:04.420 the root cause of the division in our world right now.

00:15:08.620 And it's coming to Canada too.

00:15:11.180 There's a group of people that feel not listened to, not understood.

00:15:15.540 And they, right or wrong, they rallied behind Trump and they got, they felt that he was listening

00:15:22.280 and hearing them and now it's gone back to the, the silence, the, the, the, the cancel

00:15:28.400 culture.

00:15:29.140 You are never going to heal if we don't start finding a middle of a ground approach.

00:15:34.920 And I, I'm personally going to work really hard at that.

00:15:38.280 It's not easy, but we have to start listening to each other and sitting down and talking because

00:15:45.060 if we don't, I mean, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're going to be screwed instantaneously.

00:15:49.980 Biden just destroyed the lives of a bunch of people because of that pipeline.

00:15:56.520 Those people now are going to go home.

00:15:58.680 They're going to be jobless.

00:15:59.640 They're going to be worried how they're going to pay their mortgage.

00:16:01.480 That little town of Oyen is going to basically become a ghost town again and all the hopes

00:16:07.080 and dreams.

00:16:08.160 So canceling the pipeline isn't so simple as some woke person thinking that he or she is

00:16:15.460 doing some sort of world of good in the world.

00:16:17.520 You just devastated the lives of a bunch of people on both sides of the border.

00:16:22.340 And I understand that there's this notion for mass debt right now and payments and all

00:16:26.780 this type of stuff, but eventually our economies are going to have to rebuild.

00:16:31.220 And let's just be honest, but you look at the so-called green energy in Europe and Germany

00:16:36.600 and all these places and these solar power plants, they've all shut down.

00:16:40.280 Like, once again, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing, expecting different

00:16:46.940 results.

00:16:47.800 And I don't know if we have the intelligence or the wherewithal to actually get better.

00:16:55.100 And I can tell you that on the side of oil sands that they constantly get better.

00:17:00.200 There's sort of a continuous state of kaizen, which means continuous improvement.

00:17:03.340 Um, I'm not quite sure, and I'm not even going to say it doesn't happen on the other

00:17:07.480 side on the, on the solar power of green energy, but all I know is both sides need to work

00:17:12.620 together and we need to come up with solutions for, for the ever changing world.

00:17:16.360 And we're not where everyone is polarized, polarized, and it's just not good.

00:17:21.580 And then our, our prime minister, like, I mean, like, if you're going to support a pipeline,

00:17:25.280 then support it.

00:17:26.800 Like we need, like this key, I, you know, as far as I'm concerned, I mean, let's bar

00:17:32.400 in some miracle Keystone is done.

00:17:34.200 What do we do now?

00:17:35.660 And now is the time where we realize that we need to be energy independent and we need

00:17:40.520 to look at other countries like in Asia, China, India, mend those relationships for the

00:17:47.720 better good of our country.

00:17:49.140 And right now I don't, I don't really see us mending anything.

00:17:52.260 I don't see us.

00:17:53.260 We have one customer we supply, you know, I believe it's 25% of the oil to the United States

00:17:58.600 and they're our only customer.

00:18:00.280 This is, this is, this has to change.

00:18:02.920 And I, I'm out of ideas.

00:18:06.400 I'm going to, don't get me wrong.

00:18:07.300 I'm still going to keep going, but we, the, the really intelligent so-called educated people

00:18:13.520 need to really sit down and understand the deep cause of the problems that we base in

00:18:19.000 society and work for solutions.

00:18:21.480 And those solutions aren't pretty on either side.

00:18:25.260 Yeah.

00:18:25.860 I do appreciate that you're going to try to not preach to the choir because I think sometimes

00:18:31.100 as like pro energy advocates, it's really the path of least resistance to sort of cheerlead

00:18:37.980 for the oil sands and for the energy industry to people who are already pro energy and pro

00:18:44.520 industry.

00:18:45.140 But, um, you know, communicating to people who think that the answer to everything is solar

00:18:51.320 panel and, uh, a Tesla, um, communicating to them the necessity of oil in their lives in

00:19:00.320 a way that they would tangibly understand that doesn't make them feel stupid.

00:19:05.340 Uh, I don't think we've done a very good job of that.

00:19:09.140 No, no.

00:19:10.440 And, and the, and the problem, the problem is too, is with like, we're in such, like we

00:19:18.240 had the pandemic and we're in such a zoom society. 1.00

00:19:20.800 Like we don't spend time understanding we need to, we need to get far better at explaining

00:19:25.940 how this better, like, I know a lot of people, some of my family live in Ontario and, you

00:19:31.800 know, they're anti-oil, but then you explain to them how oil benefits them and respectfully,

00:19:35.360 they just don't possess the knowledge.

00:19:36.940 They, they somehow think they're away from it.

00:19:39.900 Um, we need to bring them in quickly.

00:19:41.840 And I do believe like, you know, I think Quebec and Ontario are a little scared of what's

00:19:45.660 happening with the pipeline in Michigan right now.

00:19:47.580 Um, the fear of that, um, and you know, there's some wake up calls happening there, but there

00:19:53.980 needs to be some energy literacy going on.

00:19:56.300 So people understand everybody's point of view and, and I'm, we are getting better at it,

00:20:01.180 but, but here's the problem too.

00:20:02.460 You start up an advocacy campaign.

00:20:04.080 You say, okay, listen, we're going to, we're going to get, you know, we're going to hand

00:20:06.520 out stickers and we're going to do these rallies and we're going to do all this stuff.

00:20:10.000 Meanwhile, you're trying to run your life and the world keeps changing around you.

00:20:13.560 And then you get these obstacles outside of your control.

00:20:16.000 We can, I can advocate for Keystone XL pipeline, but I can't stop Joe Biden from making a decision.

00:20:22.940 And I would argue people on our side, uh, you know, some of them too are a little too

00:20:27.280 comfortable.

00:20:27.720 They don't quite have, they haven't really, you know, they have one, one cushy job and

00:20:32.600 another cushy job, and it's never really, they don't really understand what's happening

00:20:36.480 out there.

00:20:36.880 So, I mean, um, we need a broad stroke of, I'm not going to say changes.

00:20:41.300 We need to really, we need to understand where we're coming from and why.

00:20:44.340 Now, you just touched a little bit on Enbridge's line five pipeline.

00:20:50.160 And as we're recording this, it's Tuesday afternoon, news has just broken, uh, that

00:20:57.320 Trudeau has been asked to help save Enbridge's line five and the Michigan governor, Gretchen

00:21:03.720 Whitmer, who's awful.

00:21:06.480 Let's emphasis me, not you.

00:21:08.660 Uh, she's given the company 180 days.

00:21:11.200 So until May 12th to turn off the flow of that pipeline and Enbridge has now filed a

00:21:16.220 federal lawsuit challenging that order.

00:21:18.760 Um, will we see Justin Trudeau help Enbridge's line five or is he just going to be all hands

00:21:26.740 off like he normally is?

00:21:27.860 I, I think I, I, it depends on the, it depends on what happens if she successfully shuts that 0.92

00:21:35.660 pipeline down and the consequences for people in Ontario and Quebec.

00:21:39.560 Um, he tends to favor people from Ontario and Quebec a little bit.

00:21:42.960 Sounds like 5,000 jobs are at risk.

00:21:46.180 Um, and it could jeopardize Ontario and Michigan's energy supply.

00:21:49.660 So, you know, it is, I guess my question is Trudeau going to treat Ontario jobs differently

00:21:56.040 than Alberta jobs?

00:21:57.600 I would say probably.

00:21:58.400 Yeah.

00:21:58.700 I mean, history has shown that he favors, um, he favors Ontario and Quebec and bluntly.

00:22:04.280 I mean, our, our political system is set up in a way Alberta doesn't really have a voice.

00:22:09.040 We don't, we never, like, I mean, people complain about the electric college in the United States,

00:22:14.140 but we have the actual opposite effect of that.

00:22:16.500 We don't have a say in Alberta because we don't have the population and we don't have

00:22:20.220 the seats.

00:22:21.760 And so, I mean, the prime minister of our country is chosen for us time and time again before

00:22:26.300 we even have a chance, you know?

00:22:28.980 So, um, yes, he'll favor, he'll do what he can just like he does for Bombardier or anything

00:22:33.420 in Ontario and Quebec.

00:22:34.580 And the oil sands are, they're just sort of there.

00:22:38.500 Um, and I don't think they, any of them truly appreciate it.

00:22:41.560 It's a lot of lip service, but I don't think they go out of their way to really, you know,

00:22:45.600 and I mean, I'm not going to totally knock him, but I, what I will say is like, you know,

00:22:49.540 when he, when he made that statement about Canada's, when Harper was prime minister, Canada's

00:22:53.660 being ran by Alberta and that little shot at us, he forgets to mention us in, when he's

00:22:58.880 mentioned all the countries and then, you know, then he makes a comment, well, we're going

00:23:02.240 to phase out the oil sands.

00:23:03.920 Well, I mean, one, two, three small little things add up to, I don't know, but I do believe

00:23:09.260 he'll fight for that because that's going to have a devastating effect.

00:23:12.140 But can he, can he fight for it?

00:23:15.000 I don't know.

00:23:15.960 I mean, can he, does he have the power to deal with the Michigan governor?

00:23:18.920 Why is she suddenly picking a fight on a perfectly good pipeline that's lasted forever? 1.00

00:23:23.100 I'm not sure.

00:23:25.280 I think we all see a lot of this from some of these more radical United States governors.

00:23:30.800 Now that Biden's in office, I think they're going to feel emboldened.

00:23:34.000 And frankly, I think there might even be a little bit of green radical one-upmanship 0.80

00:23:39.580 that we'll see between Trudeau and Biden.

00:23:43.660 Someone's going to ban plastic, then someone's going to tax meat, and then someone's going

00:23:48.060 to raise the carbon tax, and then someone else is going to raise a tax on this, a green 0.99

00:23:52.860 tax.

00:23:53.260 I think it's going to be escalating green one-upmanship going forward.

00:23:59.920 Robbie, I want to ask you, because you're at work, you're a small business owner, and

00:24:04.740 the pandemic, small businesses are being hammered by the pandemic.

00:24:09.040 You're in Fort McMurray.

00:24:10.140 Fort McMurray is already sort of struggling because of the downturn in oil and gas.

00:24:13.800 What's it like on the ground there for small businesses?

00:24:17.800 I'm going to be honest with you.

00:24:19.380 I mean, we've lost, I mean, the last stat came out, 10% of all small businesses.

00:24:24.560 I think it's going to be more like 15 or 20 coming up fast here.

00:24:27.460 Um, it's a mess, you know what I mean?

00:24:30.680 And, um, everyone's doing what they can to survive and get through what they need to.

00:24:34.960 Some businesses are doing well and some are not, but, um, yeah, it's a mess.

00:24:40.420 And hopefully this pandemic is over soon.

00:24:44.520 Um, we're lucky though, because we, I mean, our case is really, I think we, we spiked at

00:24:49.760 around 300.

00:24:50.380 They're dropping now.

00:24:52.080 We're kind of, we, we, we tend to be, uh, for McMurray, they're, they're certain protocols

00:24:58.660 that have always been in place here.

00:25:00.040 We tend to, uh, we have high safety standards.

00:25:03.360 So, I mean, we, we were already hand sanitizing.

00:25:06.120 It wasn't too hard to, to adapt, but yeah, it's been rough.

00:25:08.500 It's been rough on a lot of people.

00:25:09.580 And, um, I think a lot of people feel hopeless and they're scared.

00:25:13.460 Um, you know, some people are optimistic.

00:25:15.140 If you ride it out, eventually it's going to get better.

00:25:17.620 We'll see where all the cards lie.

00:25:19.320 But, um, it has been, but, you know, as normal as you can make it in a tough situation that

00:25:25.380 we haven't had major lockdowns here.

00:25:27.260 We, you know, the bit, like we've had a few small lockdowns and stuff like that, but business

00:25:32.100 is functioning.

00:25:33.460 And, uh, fortunately, a lot of the small businesses were able to keep going.

00:25:37.140 So, but we've lost a lot.

00:25:38.420 I mean, I don't, I think the amount of restaurants that are going to be here will be completely

00:25:42.440 different when this is over.

00:25:44.340 Yeah.

00:25:45.060 Yeah.

00:25:45.240 The food service and hospitality industry sure has been hammered.

00:25:48.760 Uh, Robbie, I know you're at work, so I'll let you get back to it, but I wanted to give

00:25:54.460 you an opportunity to let people know how they can find the work that you do.

00:25:57.820 And more importantly, support the work that you do, because you don't have big, deep pocketed

00:26:03.320 oil companies helping you along the way.

00:26:05.680 And you don't, you're, you know, you're up against foreign funded environmentalist groups

00:26:11.180 every single day who have, you know, millions of dollars at their disposal disposal.

00:26:16.520 And you're just a guy in his pickup truck most days.

00:26:19.220 If you go to oilsandstrong.com, um, you can buy some shirts and, um, we're going to be

00:26:24.760 launching a few new, uh, a few new web shows and stuff like that.

00:26:27.800 And maybe setting up like a patron, um, to help, you know, fund what we're doing.

00:26:32.380 I am going to be traveling and going to a couple of these, uh, pipeline towns and doing a few

00:26:37.480 little mini videos on that.

00:26:38.780 But, uh, that's essentially, um, if you want to help out, that would be great.

00:26:43.140 Well, thanks, Robbie.

00:26:44.320 You do a great job of humanizing the oil patch.

00:26:47.360 A lot of people see, you know, it as big oil, big business, but you're out there, um, telling

00:26:53.580 the stories of the boots on the ground and, you know, how it, it helps lift indigenous people

00:26:58.620 out of poverty.

00:26:59.160 And I think you're one of the few people out there telling those stories.

00:27:02.520 Robbie, thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:27:04.260 Um, we'll have you back on again real soon.

00:27:06.140 Okay.

00:27:06.340 Thank you so much.

00:27:06.940 Always a pleasure.

00:27:14.580 Like I said to Robbie, I think there's going to be an ongoing,

00:27:17.360 escalation of job killing green policies on both sides of the border.

00:27:23.020 Trudeau, well, he wants to be the greenest, most woke leader in the Western world, but

00:27:29.080 Biden, he's not going to be happy to have Trudeau as the rock star of global elite meetings

00:27:37.000 like the World Economic Forum.

00:27:39.160 Trudeau won't be satisfied to have a geriatric social justice warrior steal all the spotlight 0.94

00:27:44.740 that Trudeau has had at these global meetings and events for the last six years.

00:27:49.800 It's going to be a lot of ego stroking between the two leaders.

00:27:54.560 And at the end of the day, it's the working man that's going to pay for all of it on both

00:28:00.600 sides of the border.

00:28:01.920 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:28:03.720 Thank you so much, as always, for tuning in.

00:28:06.280 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:28:10.600 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - January 21, 2021

Joe Biden's president. Now what for the oilsands and Keystone XL？

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