Rebel News Podcast - Jonathan Yaniv accused of threatening more reporters (Guest： Kari Smith)

00:00:00.060 Hello Rebels, I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're listening to a free audio-only recording of my Wednesday night show, The Gunn Show.

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00:01:29.460 There's another vulnerable victim of Jonathan Yaniv you may never have heard of.

00:01:49.880 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:59.460 By now, most of the world has probably heard of vexatious British Columbian transgender activist Jonathan Yaniv. 0.87

00:02:17.440 He spent months dragging vulnerable, often immigrant esthetician women in front of the Human Rights Tribunal

00:02:23.700 because these young women objected to waxing his male genitals for a number of reasons,

00:02:30.500 ranging from religious safety and skill set objections.

00:02:35.360 And from the beginning, Rebel News has been covering the Jonathan Yaniv sideshow.

00:02:41.160 Yaniv has assaulted two of my colleagues for trying to do their jobs.

00:02:45.300 And Yaniv recently pled guilty to weapons charges for brandishing a taser on a live stream with YouTuber Blair White.

00:02:53.720 But the Yaniv freak show, well, it never subsides.

00:02:57.980 Today I want to introduce you to Carrie Simpson from CultureGuard,

00:03:02.880 who has been helping somebody else who was victimized by Jonathan Yaniv.

00:03:07.480 And now Carrie is the target of Yaniv's vitriol.

00:03:12.360 Here's the interview we recorded yesterday afternoon when Carrie tells us this full, unbelievable, crazy story.

00:03:20.580 Joining me now from her office in British Columbia is Carrie Simpson. 0.91

00:03:40.260 She's the president of CultureGuard, and we are going to talk about something completely unrelated to the coronavirus.

00:03:45.600 However, it is still a plague upon our society.

00:03:48.780 Yes, I'm talking about Jonathan Yaniv.

00:03:51.440 Hi, Carrie. Thank you so much for joining me.

00:03:53.460 It's been a couple of weeks since I've seen you.

00:03:54.960 I ran into you at the courthouse in Surrey.

00:03:57.940 Why don't you tell us first a little bit about who and what CultureGuard is and what you do?

00:04:04.260 Sheila, CultureGuard, regrettably, is an organization that's much needed now here in Canada.

00:04:09.720 And we find ourselves now becoming a bit of an international organization in that we work closely with a lot of American groups, the U.K., Australia.

00:04:19.100 But basically what we do is monitor the relationship between the state and the family, the state and our rights as far as those pillars of what we believe our democracy are.

00:04:30.520 You know, freedom of expression slash speech, the right to have faith, parental rights, because we see the growing encroachment of the state taking over children.

00:04:41.420 So those issues keep us very, very busy in all these countries.

00:04:45.980 Now, I'm going to address some of the criticisms of CultureGuard really quickly.

00:04:51.340 You are often accused as being anti-LGBTQ, but in my assessment, you are more about the autonomy of parents and parents' rights.

00:05:03.200 And in fact, you frequently work quite closely with a trans individual.

00:05:07.940 Well, my public statement for the 25-odd years that I've been doing this is I will defend anybody's rights to freely express themselves.

00:05:18.700 But when those rights start trespassing on my rights, my rights to parent, my rights to instill values and morals into my children, my right to protect my granddaughter from men changing in recreation bathrooms of the local rec facilities, that's when I stand up.

00:05:37.780 And of course, that in this day and age is, you know, not acceptable to what I call the squawk box minority, you know, or the horde, as they now are becoming. 1.00

00:05:49.720 So I think what we've seen now is enough people standing up and speaking back.

00:05:55.880 I will not adopt somebody's delusion that a man can be a woman.

00:06:00.020 I will not go by their pronouns and all the other nonsense, not for just my sake, but for their sake.

00:06:06.460 I don't believe engaging in somebody's mental health issue is particularly helpful to them.

00:06:12.220 So as a result of that, and you know, the funny thing is, is that coming up just within the next few days is going to be a court hearing in New Westminster on the very fact because a church lost its ability to hold a big youth event because Carrie Simpson was speaking at it.

00:06:31.360 And the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedom took the case on behalf of the pastors there.

00:06:37.700 And I say right on.

00:06:38.720 It's not often that you see Christian churches standing up and fighting back, but we're seeing more of that now.

00:06:45.140 But they actually hired researchers to go and pour through everything I've ever said and done that's now on the Internet.

00:06:51.140 Those poor people, you know, to find out anything that would remotely resemble something that could be, you know, forget hate, even mean spirited.

00:07:00.320 You're not going to find it.

00:07:02.240 I have friends who are part of that community.

00:07:05.540 Friends who say, Carrie, those squawk box leaders don't speak on behalf of me. 0.92

00:07:11.040 We support you.

00:07:12.300 We support parental rights.

00:07:14.120 So I think we're seeing more courage now coming from people within the LGBT community speaking out and going, you know, this is insane now, especially when you start messing with the kids. 1.00

00:07:26.200 Sheila, that seems to be for any politician, that's political suicide for common civil Canadians of all stripes.

00:07:37.420 That's the barrier that you don't dare cross.

00:07:40.080 And certainly we're seeing that.

00:07:41.240 So we're seeing a lot of movement.

00:07:42.940 It's actually a very good thing that's going on here.

00:07:44.860 Yeah, I think the further the left moves left, they actually leave behind a lot of their allies.

00:07:52.720 For example, Jen Smith is a huge transgender individual, huge advocate for parents' rights and stopping the sexualization of children and the early introduction of gender theory to little kids like five years old.

00:08:07.660 Thank goodness that Jen Smith is out there sounding the alarm bells. 1.00

00:08:11.800 He's doing a tremendous job, especially for vulnerable youth, as you know, and maybe some of your viewers know as well.

00:08:20.980 You know, he is a product of the foster system.

00:08:23.780 And that brings a lot of hurt, but a lot of insight into how far government will go in its willingness to abuse vulnerable children.

00:08:34.800 And certainly he is a strong voice on that front and a much needed voice.

00:08:39.180 Now, let's talk about why you're really on the show today.

00:08:43.960 First off, I wanted to introduce people to you.

00:08:45.900 And secondarily, we have a person in common who dislikes both of us immensely.

00:08:56.360 You're sort of tangled up in the Jonathan Yaniv orbit.

00:09:01.280 Tell us first how you got involved in the spider web of Jonathan Yaniv.

00:09:09.800 And I guess after that, we'll get into now you're getting dragged into legal proceedings, whereas you were sort of a helper of one of Jonathan Yaniv's victims.

00:09:20.160 Now you're getting sucked into the legal system because of him.

00:09:24.600 Well, and I'm hoping that we can turn that into a positive, Sheila.

00:09:30.420 Yes, I've appreciated our every couple of week encounters at the court.

00:09:36.460 It's been fun.

00:09:37.800 Never boring where Yaniv is involved, but also tragic because, you know, the amount of resources of taxpayers that are being eaten up to accommodate and facilitate and entertain, I think, to some degree.

00:09:54.880 Jonathan Yaniv is very concerning.

00:09:57.400 So my first involvement came back, unbeknownst to most people, when one of the victims of the Human Rights Tribunal, an esthetician who had been targeted by Yaniv, came and found herself the target of one of his first human rights campaigns. 0.53

00:10:19.020 And I sat across and listened to this girl and her story, and I was horrified.

00:10:26.440 I mean, you know, here's a mom with a child and this bully taking her to the Human Rights Tribunal.

00:10:32.220 Now, I'm no stranger to Human Rights Tribunals. 0.92

00:10:34.800 I've been hauled up by sex activists before for daring to promote parental rights within the public education system.

00:10:43.220 And, you know, when they first targeted me, they said, oh, you know, everybody went, oh, Carrie, you have to mediate.

00:10:48.860 You know, the Human Rights Tribunals are left-wing, blah, blah, blah.

00:10:53.380 No, that's not in me.

00:10:54.960 So I said, no, we're going to fight.

00:10:56.460 Well, for whatever reason, that got the eight to nine complainants very concerned.

00:11:00.160 And these are sex activist teachers within the public education system and a lawyer, a very infamous activist by the name of Barbara Finley. 1.00

00:11:09.200 And in that case, once I said, no, we're going to tribunal, apparently they got a bit worried.

00:11:14.360 It took two years, Sheila.

00:11:16.140 Then I had to subpoena the complainants to show up in their own case.

00:11:21.800 We had one day of hearing with one witness.

00:11:24.200 We got so much damning evidence that they withdrew the case.

00:11:27.440 So, you know, we don't fear these things.

00:11:29.760 It's a good opportunity to go and get information and expose what's going on.

00:11:33.580 And so we helped this young woman of the Justice Center, decided that they were going to represent her.

00:11:40.220 And once she lawyered up, shall we say, Yaniv did not pursue her anymore.

00:11:47.000 But there were other victims.

00:11:48.860 And they were very scared to come forward because some of them were working jobs that weren't particularly licensed for, those kinds of things.

00:11:57.600 So he had them really in a vulnerable spot.

00:12:00.420 So I did attend only one day of the BC Human Rights Tribunal hearings involving the estheticians.

00:12:09.280 And you couldn't sell a better ticket to any entertainment going on.

00:12:17.040 Did you learn too much about somebody's genitals?

00:12:19.480 Because I was sort of following along online and I was learning things that I wish I never learned.

00:12:24.980 And, you know, regrettably, with this, with the whole SOGI agenda, one has had to learn more about genitals and what you can do and do about them.

00:12:37.800 And anybody should have to know.

00:12:40.080 But yes, as far as one particular individual, yes, way too much information.

00:12:45.080 And imagined information as well, because not all of it, I don't think, was medically factual there.

00:12:55.900 But I did get a really good opportunity to watch one of the lawyers for the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedom, JCCF, by the name of Jay Cameron.

00:13:06.940 And I applaud him, not only for his self-discipline, but anyone that can maintain the state of professionalism, as you have had to do and as Kenan has tried to do, you know, where this individual is involved is nothing short of award winning.

00:13:28.880 I think we need to have a new award show that the survivors of Yaniv and those that have had to participate can, in fact, be recognized publicly.

00:13:40.040 So that was my growing introduction.

00:13:44.660 And, of course, we had, you know, we were asked to help, you know, talk to the other victims in the esthetician case and those kinds of things.

00:13:51.560 So CultureGuard does a lot of behind-the-scenes work legally.

00:13:55.500 We help people.

00:13:56.340 We help lawyers.

00:13:56.980 Next, because, you know, who needs to be involved in any more insanity in Canada than, you know, deliberately getting involved in anything Yaniv. 0.53

00:14:09.620 So we really didn't do too much except to just sort of monitor what was going on.

00:14:14.900 And, you know, there's enough other craziness in Canada right now that, you know, we're occupied fully on just maintaining some attempt to keep logic involved in government decisions and administrative decisions.

00:14:33.060 But so next, I started receiving calls for help for this Donald Smith.

00:14:40.020 Now, Donald is an individual that I know.

00:14:43.020 Donald is an intellectually vulnerable man.

00:14:47.240 I've met Donald.

00:14:48.500 He means well.

00:14:49.620 I've met him a few times.

00:14:51.400 He has a part of all.

00:14:52.800 Nice man means well.

00:14:54.200 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:54.760 He can be annoying, can be provocative.

00:14:59.880 So Donald Smith is a product of the foster system and has also, you know, some other challenges, Asperger's, autism.

00:15:08.840 So emotionally and intellectually vulnerable.

00:15:12.200 Yet he's brilliant when it comes to technology.

00:15:15.240 It's the most fascinating thing to watch.

00:15:17.620 This guy who is, his brain just fires on all cylinders.

00:15:24.140 So Donald's claim to fame, though, came when he took his video reporting company to the human rights tribunals involving Yaniv and the estheticians.

00:15:35.580 And he was following another independent reporting company.

00:15:41.340 And they were trying to get an interview with Jonathan Yaniv.

00:15:44.780 Once Jonathan learned who they were, he just headed off.

00:15:48.220 This was back when he was still on his scooter and tried desperately to get into the building, didn't want to talk to them.

00:15:58.480 And Donald very calmly followed behind, asking questions about why he goes on online chats with and talks sexually with minor children.

00:16:10.000 And he didn't want to have any of that.

00:16:11.740 So as they got closer to the elevator, Yaniv became very, very violent and threatening.

00:16:18.500 And Donald captured on his recording video, Yaniv threatening to pepper spray them, pulling the fire alarm, engaging in all kinds of annex, threatening them.

00:16:31.820 And, you know, suddenly his ability to be mobile was very obvious by standing up.

00:16:37.240 And he's quite a large guy.

00:16:39.860 And then as the elevator door shuts, you know, that was one segment.

00:16:46.100 Then he also exposed the fact that Yaniv on his own channel was reporting how many protesters and he needed 13 officers. 0.99

00:16:54.500 And Donald kind of called bullshit. 0.99

00:16:57.380 That's right. 0.99

00:16:58.120 And put these videos out very publicly.

00:17:02.800 So Yaniv got, that's when Donald Smith got in the crosshairs of Jonathan Yaniv.

00:17:09.480 And, of course, the more Yaniv sought attention online, the more Donald reported on him.

00:17:16.300 So there are a number of videos that Donald has generated reporting on the conduct of Yaniv, including Yaniv in a swimming pool in Harrison Hot Springs, you know, talking to his fans.

00:17:30.620 I mean, it's this creepy, horrible stuff.

00:17:33.620 And, of course, Donald was more than happy to report on this individual who is well known for grooming young girls.

00:17:44.740 That's no secret at this point, taking pictures of himself in girls' washrooms.

00:17:50.200 I mean, the list goes on.

00:17:52.160 So there is this whole online community that is happening around Jessica, Jonathan, Yaniv, that is a whole other world.

00:18:05.180 You know, people used to watch soap operas on television.

00:18:10.860 The new generation creates soap operas online.

00:18:16.240 So we have places like Kiwi Farms with dedicated threads to Jonathan Yaniv, Meow Mix, a good perv nerd and all.

00:18:29.260 And it's been an education for me as somebody who, you know, has to be on, you know, you have to be on social media.

00:18:39.180 But I usually just post.

00:18:40.900 I don't do a whole bunch of time reading.

00:18:42.760 So there became this ongoing back and forth between Yaniv and some of these other people.

00:18:52.860 And, you know, it was don't pull any punches kind of stuff.

00:18:57.400 Regrettably, Yaniv started believing that Donald was responsible, for instance, for phoning him a lot.

00:19:05.280 Well, finally, and Yaniv is vicious online.

00:19:09.920 He taunts, he torments.

00:19:12.680 And one of the post-millennial reporters by the name of Anna Slatt finally said, I'm tired of this.

00:19:19.680 And she got Donald's telephone logs and proved that it wasn't him.

00:19:24.340 Anyway, so there's a lot of this kind of stuff.

00:19:27.300 But Yaniv gets so upset at Donald.

00:19:29.420 Now, Donald did phone him once to try to get an interview following up the incident at the B.C. Human Rights Tribunal, which is what a good reporter would do.

00:19:41.020 And he happened to be live streaming at the time. 0.82

00:19:44.640 So we hear Yaniv threatening Donald to kill him.

00:19:51.500 And, I mean, it is terrifying, the threats that were coming across the live stream.

00:19:59.120 And, of course, Donald being Donald reacts.

00:20:02.040 You know, he says, well, you're threatening me online, you know?

00:20:05.360 So, and to Donald's credit, although he gets quite excited at those kinds of things due to his challenges, he maintained, you know, he didn't threaten back at this point these kinds of things.

00:20:19.480 So over the course of the next few months, Donald tries to get help from the police, reporting the death threats, those kinds of things, and gets no response.

00:20:31.540 He gets no help.

00:20:33.300 So things online escalate between all these parties.

00:20:38.180 And next thing you know, Yaniv is starting to make complaints about Donald.

00:20:44.120 He's starting to build the file, because this seems to be how Jonathan Yaniv acts.

00:20:50.220 He knows the police.

00:20:51.380 Now, we're talking about three different detachments.

00:20:53.920 We're talking about the Vancouver Police Department, Surrey RCMP, and Langley RCMP.

00:21:00.420 Now, all three of these detachments are well known for being, promoting their willingness to appease the LGBT communities, okay?

00:21:12.940 They fly pride flags.

00:21:16.360 They put out T-shirts.

00:21:18.820 There's a special liaison officer at most of these detachments that service the LGBTQ.

00:21:25.620 When you look at what's been transpiring in our RCMP policies over the last few years, it gets very concerning, because it's almost like special privilege, special attention, special treatment.

00:21:39.200 And I do believe that this has contributed greatly to the situation that Donald found himself in with the RCMP, with the VPD.

00:21:50.060 So while there's great sympathy, you know, nobody wants to step on the tones of a trans activist, because God forbid you're going to be hauled up before the Human Rights Commission, right?

00:22:01.060 So Yaniv continues on with the torments of Donald.

00:22:08.200 At one point, somebody orchestrated a SWAT on Yaniv's condo, and police officers arrived at that.

00:22:19.400 Fortunately, Yaniv threatened Donald.

00:22:22.360 He believed Donald had been responsible.

00:22:24.440 Now, that's not something that Donald would do.

00:22:26.560 I don't think he would even enter his mind to do that.

00:22:30.100 And we have online threats from Yaniv saying, Donald, I'm not going to let this one go.

00:22:36.360 And sure enough, two days later, five officers from the Vancouver Police Department knock on Donald's door for a wellness check.

00:22:45.080 Well, that's terrifying to somebody like Donald, who has had exchanges with the police.

00:22:50.980 Lots of times, the police don't understand right off the bat of Donald's vulnerabilities and challenges.

00:22:57.560 And I'm going to say challenges, because Donald can be very challenging.

00:23:02.980 Provoking would be an understatement in these cases.

00:23:06.400 But I think once the police officers understand what they're dealing with, they're mostly pretty kind to Donald.

00:23:12.420 So, anyway, again, Donald tries to get help.

00:23:16.900 And if I could share the, and maybe I will once we get the court stuff finished in this.

00:23:25.460 The heartfelt pleas of Donald, because he fortunately recorded his calls to the RCMP.

00:23:31.720 He recorded his calls to the police.

00:23:34.020 Smart.

00:23:34.760 So smart.

00:23:35.680 Good man.

00:23:36.980 And he's saying, I've done this.

00:23:38.840 Nobody's doing anything.

00:23:40.020 Nobody will help me.

00:23:41.540 So things escalate.

00:23:44.180 And next thing you know, Jonathan Yaniv has a court date coming up.

00:23:50.820 And Donald wants to attend it.

00:23:53.640 It's for December 5th.

00:23:55.900 And leading up to this, there's quite a few exchanges online where Donald says he's going to be attending this.

00:24:04.420 And by now, in December 3rd, Donald knows that the police aren't going to do anything to protect him.

00:24:10.420 He's gone months of trying to get their attention, begging them to help.

00:24:15.300 And he live streams that he's going to be attending this.

00:24:18.760 Well, Yaniv provides the video to the police saying that Donald is threatening him, threatening him. 0.97

00:24:28.040 What Yaniv didn't do, though, is provide the emails that he was sending to Donald during the live stream, threatening to beat the shit out of him. 0.98

00:24:38.060 All these kinds of things, don't you show up, vile, hostile, violent threats. 0.99

00:24:46.980 Finally, at some point in the video, Donald says, well, if you come after me, man, I'm going to punch you in the throat. 0.94

00:24:52.480 Well, so that's what Yaniv goes to the police for.

00:24:56.540 Now, under normal circumstances, I would not be too accommodating to somebody who threatens that.

00:25:04.140 But after learning this story, looking at the numerous attempts that Donald did to seek legal, lawful remedy to the ongoing threats.

00:25:15.840 I mean, these are death threats, Sheila. 0.99

00:25:17.960 I'm going to kill you. 1.00

00:25:20.300 And we know how violent Yaniv is. 1.00

00:25:24.500 Oh, yeah.

00:25:25.280 I mean, regrettably for Keenan Bixby and Mr. Menzies.

00:25:32.140 But, you know, and you, I mean, you have to go to court with bodyguards.

00:25:36.960 Yeah.

00:25:37.120 Right.

00:25:38.580 When I was at the court house one day, I had to have intervention from the sheriffs from Yaniv's mother.

00:25:46.240 You know.

00:25:47.020 I believe it.

00:25:48.060 Yeah.

00:25:49.420 So December 5th comes.

00:25:51.700 Donald goes to attend the hearing and ends up being arrested.

00:25:57.680 Now, I have the disclosure because I'm the advocate for Donald in this case.

00:26:03.260 And this was predetermined.

00:26:04.760 He was going down.

00:26:07.000 They weren't going to let him into the courthouse.

00:26:08.880 They weren't going to do anything.

00:26:09.960 And nobody bothered to investigate.

00:26:12.600 Nobody bothered to get Donald's side on this.

00:26:15.740 He was just simply arrested.

00:26:17.320 He was refused entry to the courthouse and he was arrested.

00:26:22.220 So he has a hearing at that point.

00:26:26.040 He gets released on his own reconnaissance and an undertaking of not to contact Yaniv or be in the vicinity of Yaniv.

00:26:36.640 So as things escalate and Yaniv knows that he's going to be in court again, Yaniv contacts the Langley RCMP and claims that Donald has breached the order.

00:26:49.360 And this is a supposed email that Donald has sent to Yaniv, which clearly if the RCMP and Langley had done any, any minuscule act of investigation would have seen that it was highly unlikely that Donald had sent that email.

00:27:11.800 It's just so obviously phony.

00:27:14.660 Regrettably, they didn't.

00:27:17.820 And Donald, while walking down the street in Vancouver, was arrested and placed in jail for 39 days.

00:27:27.780 Now, at first, he had a bail hearing, but nobody knew he was in jail.

00:27:35.300 He's in jail.

00:27:36.300 Who do you call?

00:27:37.080 What do you do?

00:27:37.720 And if you're Donald, you're just like, the system is against me, right?

00:27:42.100 He's had encounters with the police all his life because of his issues.

00:27:46.120 He's now in the most hostile environment that he can absolutely believe him.

00:27:51.580 If possible, he's scared.

00:27:54.880 And nobody knows he's there until, you know, you look at some of the online comments like what happened to Donald, right?

00:28:01.760 And where's Donald?

00:28:03.900 Finally, some of his online friends find out that he's been incarcerated at Surrey pretrial.

00:28:11.360 And he has a hearing coming up for a plea.

00:28:16.640 So, I get all of a sudden inundated with these people.

00:28:22.340 I have no idea who they are.

00:28:26.040 Carrie, you need to help Donald.

00:28:28.320 Like, you know, and in all honesty, the last time I saw Donald, I remember telling him, Donald, look, you have to be, you know, maybe it's the mom in me, but inside voice.

00:28:40.780 We're in court, right?

00:28:42.080 Donald, inside voice.

00:28:43.360 And not wanting to particularly have anything to do with him, right?

00:28:46.580 Because it takes so much energy to deal with him.

00:28:51.660 Anyway, and so suddenly you want me to help Donald, right?

00:28:55.580 Well, when I heard what had happened and how he had been set up, and I have to give credit.

00:29:04.400 I've never seen anything like it, Sheila.

00:29:06.420 I help a lot of people, you know, families with apprehension cases, you know, all kinds of things, thousands of cases.

00:29:16.080 I have never seen so many people come together to help somebody that they probably don't even know in person.

00:29:23.380 I received Excel sheets of all the things that Yannif has said online, you know, threatening Donald, all those kinds of things.

00:29:34.200 Like I said, reporter Anna Slats came through with, like, Carrie, what do you need?

00:29:38.120 Here's the telephone logs.

00:29:39.580 It was just an amazing, amazing experience from my point of view.

00:29:46.060 I mean, it's a lot, trust me, a lot of work.

00:29:48.020 Donald did a lot of videos.

00:29:50.840 But you know what?

00:29:52.240 It gives you hope and humanity, you know, that there's a lot of good people out there taking care of people who may be not able to take care of themselves.

00:29:59.880 So I go to this hearing just a little bit unsure of what's going on because I've just carried, you know, the hearings today.

00:30:08.860 It's a plea.

00:30:10.320 And, you know, this is what's going on.

00:30:12.560 So the night before, I think I didn't get much sleep just reviewing all the information.

00:30:17.200 By the time I got to court, I was quite incensed at the whole system, Sheila, that nobody had bothered to investigate.

00:30:25.620 Donald was an easy target, and it was easier for the law enforcement agencies just to shut him down and appease Yanef, not look at what was going on, not test whether what he was saying was true or not.

00:30:39.860 So at the hearing, and this is probably what put me over the edge, the prisoner box is right in front, and Yanef sits himself right in front of where Donald has to be.

00:30:54.720 And, you know, that's just, that's harassment.

00:30:59.900 That's, that's vicious.

00:31:02.600 The fun thing, though, is Donald refuses to come out while Yanef's in the courtroom.

00:31:08.540 So, eventually, you know, the court, the sheriffs just tell Yanef he's not coming out while you're here, and he probably won't come out today.

00:31:22.120 Okay. So, so Yanef leaves.

00:31:25.860 So, by this time, it's been clear to me that the sheriffs at the Surrey Courthouse and other law enforcement agencies may be getting on to the drama that's associated with Yanef.

00:31:39.740 So, so they inform Yanef that Donald's not going to show, so he leaves.

00:31:45.140 They actually follow him out and make sure he leaves before they're going to tell Donald that it's safe to come out now.

00:31:53.400 Now, during this time, I had the opportunity to speak with Donald's legal aid lawyer, who was being represented that day by an Arnold Green student.

00:32:03.620 And I said to her, I said, I want you to, to let the court know that somebody is here in support of Donald, and we want a bail hearing.

00:32:09.880 And she goes, well, that's, you can't have a bail hearing, it's been, not been 30 days.

00:32:15.460 I said, I, I want it on the record that we want a bail hearing.

00:32:18.380 Nobody knew last time to help Donald, those kinds of things.

00:32:22.400 So, Donald comes out.

00:32:23.740 Well, of course, he's so excited to see me and, you know, not much is, is done at this proceeding, except to put it over to another date for a plea.

00:32:35.940 And, you know, the, the big heart sign and, you know, it, it was quite endearing to me.

00:32:43.000 I'll admit, I, pretty tough, but that was pretty special.

00:32:46.880 So, um, just to know that by being there, somebody, you give somebody hope, like, and that's, I mean, important to me, that's really sad as well, right?

00:32:55.800 But, so the court, you know, she, the, the article in the student puts it on the record that we want a bail hearing, blah, blah, blah.

00:33:03.140 And, uh, that day is over.

00:33:05.920 So, over the course of the next few weeks, I managed to go in and visit Donald every Saturday.

00:33:10.920 And, uh, we, we, uh, brought him, got him money to pay for his housing because he had that, uh, money for commissary, you know, because once you're incarcerated, you know, unless you have family or friends, you don't have any goods.

00:33:27.080 Um, I was also able, unfortunately, we have some good connections with the sheriffs and, and, uh, law enforcement agencies.

00:33:34.600 And, and we were able to ensure that he was being treated well and given a job and that kind of thing.

00:33:40.080 If you have a job in jail, that's three quarters of the battle.

00:33:44.220 So, the things went well.

00:33:45.800 And I talked to Donald about what he wanted to do.

00:33:48.640 And, uh, you know, the lawyers, of course, legal aid lawyers, they're good people, but they see a lot of these.

00:33:55.620 So, they just try to mitigate.

00:33:57.180 But I, I told the legal aid lawyer, I said, look, I want a bail hearing.

00:34:01.040 Well, we can't do that.

00:34:02.560 No, no, no.

00:34:02.960 I said, make it happen.

00:34:04.620 Nobody was here for the last one.

00:34:06.280 So, at the next hearing, um, Donald, um, we do the plea.

00:34:13.300 And this time, Yanef is in the, again, sitting right in front of where Donald's going to come out.

00:34:19.700 Crown made Yanef move, which was interesting.

00:34:23.720 Um, because, you know, again, it, it doesn't look good.

00:34:26.700 And Donald comes out.

00:34:27.700 And I said, Donald, when you come out, if Yanef's there, you just look at me. 0.71

00:34:31.040 You know, because we had time to talk when I would visit him on the Saturdays.

00:34:35.400 And I said, just look at me.

00:34:37.080 And, of course, he was, um, now he's in fighting mode because he has people standing with him.

00:34:43.020 And, and, uh, you know, I, again, I have to say that I have quite a large spot in my heart these days for Donald Smith.

00:34:51.480 So, so the judge comes out and, uh, Donald in full Donald says, not guilty, your honor, da, da, da, da, da, you know, and, and, and, and, and, of course, that, that, um, uh, sent Yanef into a tirade online that Donald was inappropriate in his outbursts and all this nonsense.

00:35:10.920 But anyway, so, um, we put the, the, um, the not guilty plea in.

00:35:18.700 Now he's supposed to stay in jail till June, right?

00:35:22.080 So you have to appreciate, too, during this time, Yanef is outside Surrey pre-trial where Donald is incarcerated, making videos gloating about, you know, how he got Donald arrested and these kinds of things.

00:35:35.860 He's, he's online, threatening everybody, um, you, you know, don't piss me off, you know, I'll do, I'll pull a Donald on you, you know, and this kind of just everywhere you look.

00:35:48.120 So Yanef is quite pleased with himself and, you know, he's, he's in there till June, you know, he ain't coming out anytime soon.

00:35:55.620 So between myself and the lawyer, we finally convinced Crown to have a bail hearing, and, uh, that, that transpires, and, um, fortunately, Crown says, okay, because they said that at the first time.

00:36:11.540 They didn't really want to, but they, but we said, look, you weren't opposed to it the first go around.

00:36:16.640 So this time we go back, uh, before the judge and, uh, I ended up speaking to the judge myself about Donald and his online community.

00:36:28.280 And, you know, this, there's probably more to this case than what has been presented.

00:36:32.300 And, uh, the judge agreed to give him bail.

00:36:35.500 So we were able to get Donald out of jail, um, on a $10,000 surety.

00:36:43.100 And, uh, so I posted my home, um, because there's certain, uh, conditions assigned to a surety.

00:36:52.300 You can't have two people on title.

00:36:54.560 You can't, um, have, you know, it has to be worth more than what the surety and all this other interesting.

00:37:00.860 You have to get land titles office.

00:37:02.760 There's a whole bunch of work that goes into just doing that.

00:37:06.000 So, um, so I posted that.

00:37:08.240 I think, um, when we then to the delight of the online crowd telling Jonathan Yaniv that Donald had been sprung, you know, that Donald is free, um, sent him into a tirade.

00:37:22.080 I can only imagine, um, you know, he was embarrassed.

00:37:26.000 He was, you know, all the things that he thought about the case, um, were now changed.

00:37:31.760 And the person responsible for that is Carrie Simpson. 1.00

00:37:35.660 So that put a target on my back.

00:37:39.660 So then we see, um, a number of things.

00:37:43.040 Yaniv starts targeting me online and what have you.

00:37:46.500 And then one day I'm sitting here in my office and I can't see the cars.

00:37:51.620 We're on the second floor here.

00:37:52.860 I can't see the cars that are parked right down below here.

00:37:56.400 But for whatever reason, I got up, which is unusual because I'm usually busy meeting after meeting.

00:38:02.740 And I look out and there's this guy taking pictures of my office in the parking lot.

00:38:08.520 And it's Yaniv, right?

00:38:11.060 So I grabbed my, my, uh, my phone and I videotape him.

00:38:16.600 So getting in his car, pulling out, giving me the bird, right?

00:38:21.700 Stopping taking pictures.

00:38:23.080 And he posted it online, right?

00:38:24.880 And, uh, of course, um, you know, this is just, you know, then two minutes later, the poor tenant from downstairs that the business owner of the travel agency comes up knocking on our door just in a panic.

00:38:41.880 What's going on, right?

00:38:43.660 She's terrified.

00:38:45.520 These two people, Yaniv and his mom, are in her office just, you know, ragging on her right about this person upstairs.

00:38:53.660 Apparently we were harboring Donald in the office.

00:38:58.920 So anyway, so make sure you lock your doors.

00:39:02.940 They're, you know, crazy, right?

00:39:04.780 So, um, yeah.

00:39:07.480 So it's been, like I said, that's, uh, part of the story.

00:39:12.640 Um, but certainly, um, I think what happened this last week with the lawsuit, uh, brings a whole new dimension to it.

00:39:21.020 Yeah, let's talk about that because B, uh, and I think you and I were talking about this off air, but I think it is because you have leveled this major defeat against Jonathan Yaniv.

00:39:33.020 If you've exposed him for the predatory, um, manipulator of vulnerable people that he really is, that now you're the bad guy.

00:39:43.620 Now he has to shut you up because you can actually expose all the terrible things that he did to this vulnerable man, Donald Smith.

00:39:52.860 Oh, I, I think exactly.

00:39:55.800 So last Monday, March 16th, um, we were back in court.

00:40:03.020 Uh, Yaniv had to, um, do his plea on his weapons charges, right?

00:40:08.400 So this stems from the Blair White show where he, you know, showed his tasers and his guns.

00:40:13.900 And somehow he managed to, um, uh, lobby the crown and, uh, negotiate down to just one count.

00:40:22.840 Yeah.

00:40:23.160 So we went to court.

00:40:24.920 Um, but I went by myself, but another gentleman there by the name of Chris was there as well.

00:40:30.180 And, uh, he's the witness in the Ami, Amy Ham case, because remember Amy Ham sexually assaulted Jonathan Yaniv in the women's washroom.

00:40:41.400 Yeah.

00:40:41.800 Yeah.

00:40:43.500 And now so outlandish, she ran away out of the bathroom.

00:40:47.800 Well, now apparently it's gone to voyeurism.

00:40:51.000 So it's the fastest voyeuristic act week on record.

00:40:55.820 I'm sure.

00:40:56.340 Um, so he was there, fortunately.

00:41:00.180 So we, we go into the court and of course it's, it's Corona virus time, right?

00:41:05.780 So the court procedures and practices are changed.

00:41:09.240 Um, they only allow you to sit in the courtroom for the proceeding that you're there for, which is nice that you at least get to do that.

00:41:16.900 So I talked to the sheriffs and he said, well, what, when are you here on?

00:41:20.580 And I said, the Yaniv case.

00:41:21.820 And he says, oh, we're probably going to get that one first out of the gate.

00:41:25.520 And I said, okay, but no Yaniv, right?

00:41:28.520 No, he doesn't show.

00:41:30.760 Next thing I hear a crown prosecutor talking to somebody on the phone.

00:41:34.500 I'm not sure if it was Yaniv, but he says, look, you live in Langley.

00:41:38.940 Today you're in court.

00:41:40.280 Get in here.

00:41:40.920 And in the same kind of time frame it would take to get, um, from Langley to, to the court, Yaniv shows up.

00:41:48.320 So I looked down the hall, which are very long quarters at Surrey Provincial Court.

00:41:52.640 And, uh, I see Yaniv coming in and he spots, uh, Chris and myself and immediately goes into, uh, a fit, just a fit.

00:42:03.720 Starts summoning sheriffs who all come a running.

00:42:06.820 And I said to Chris, I said, okay, next, the, the, the sheriffs are going to come talk to us.

00:42:13.480 Right.

00:42:13.760 So sure enough, the very officious sheriff monitor wanders over.

00:42:18.020 Um, what is the purpose of your, you know, your presence here?

00:42:22.640 We're here for the Yaniv case, you know, we're, you know, um, oh, uh, well, you know, uh, we both, I mean, you're not going to mess with somebody like Chris and myself.

00:42:34.740 We know our rights.

00:42:35.640 We know we have right there to look, don't worry.

00:42:38.300 You know, um, we're, we, we're not the troublemakers, you know, usually your problem stands with Yaniv.

00:42:44.660 So that was fine.

00:42:45.940 So he wanders off and now there's probably four or five sheriffs all surrounding Yaniv down, you know, 300 yards away.

00:42:53.640 And, uh, next, another officious individual walks.

00:42:57.960 He says, you know, you can't record or take photos in the courthouse.

00:43:01.700 Absolutely.

00:43:02.740 You know, like we're absolutely no problem from us.

00:43:06.880 So we walked a little bit longer next, the RCMP show up.

00:43:11.840 Okay.

00:43:13.120 So apparently, according to another reporter who contacted the RCMP station the day after, uh, the file was generated.

00:43:21.960 Now I know there was a file generated because after court, I just said to Chris, I said, you know what, let's just walk over to the RCMP detachment, which is just across the street from the courthouse in Surrey.

00:43:32.680 And let's just see if he created another file.

00:43:37.360 I mean, the files that are generated as a result of Yaniv are very concerning.

00:43:43.060 It's beyond public mischief.

00:43:44.900 It's public abuse.

00:43:45.820 So, of course, we wander over there and, and, uh, do you have ID?

00:43:50.640 Yeah.

00:43:50.980 Yes.

00:43:51.480 There was a file generated today.

00:43:53.540 Um, so I found out the next day from the other reporter that the information that she received was that I had caused a disruption at the courtroom.

00:44:05.880 You know, well, okay.

00:44:07.640 Sitting there by my very presence, I'm disrupting, I guess, Sheila, just this power that I possess to cause havoc while remaining seated is just, well, I think you have the same power.

00:44:19.560 I do, I do, yep.

00:44:21.100 You know what I'm talking about.

00:44:25.340 So, um, anyway, so the next thing I know is I'm being notified because this online community constantly monitors the online court reports.

00:44:36.420 Yaniv has now filed a lawsuit in the small claims court, um, against me and Donald Smith.

00:44:42.500 There's another one there for Donald as well.

00:44:44.460 Um, he's very triggered because I won't use the proper pronouns and that somehow is promoting hatred and contempt for him.

00:44:54.160 Um, the fact that I have an office here and observed his car, he's now suicidal as a result of it.

00:45:02.320 So, and I should tell, you know, your viewers, the reason why this guy gets away with this kind of stuff is because the court is constantly accommodating him.

00:45:12.180 When he went to file a notice of civil claim in the Supreme Court against Donald Smith, he gets his fees waived, right?

00:45:19.560 He claims that he's not making enough income.

00:45:22.220 He claims that he has dependent children.

00:45:24.320 That is on the affidavit he swore in, in favor of waiving his fees, right?

00:45:34.460 Um, the good news is he also acknowledges owning a condo that's worth $200,000.

00:45:40.520 So, you know, that gives an opportunity for those that are being assaulted with canes and fists and, uh, fraudulent lawsuits, you know, that we do have remedy there.

00:45:51.860 So, in, in a way, I'm actually kind of looking forward to this case because I've wanted a vehicle to once and for all deal with the issues around compelled speech, pronouns, those kinds of things.

00:46:06.220 So, in, in a, in a unique and interesting way, YANF has paved that road for us to once and for all in this nation, make a determination in the courts as to my right not to have to engage in other people's delusions.

00:46:21.340 So, um, there, you know, it, it, it, it's going to be interesting.

00:46:25.880 Yeah.

00:46:26.380 And I think we're all going to be following it very closely.

00:46:28.600 I know I am for sure.

00:46:30.520 Uh, it's just so fascinating how it, it, Jonathan, you need, it's like a black hole that just sucks up everything all around it into it.

00:46:41.860 I mean, you were on the periphery and then you ended up helping one of Jonathan, you need his victims.

00:46:46.060 Cause that's absolutely what Donald Smith is.

00:46:48.240 His freedom was taken away.

00:46:49.820 And then, then you end up, um, in a lawsuit because you caught him taking pictures of you and that somehow that made him suicidal.

00:46:58.780 It is so crazy.

00:47:01.580 Um, how, thank you for sharing your story.

00:47:05.340 I mean, it's just a lot to digest, but how can people carry, how can they help you and how can they support the work that you're doing?

00:47:12.020 Especially now that you're up against, uh, Jonathan, you need.

00:47:17.080 Well, we do have a fundraiser for, for Donald Smith and I would appreciate, um, any, any financial help on that front.

00:47:25.720 I can tell you this case has taken a lot of time and energy, mostly because not only am I trying to help Donald, I'm trying to stop further abuse of our courts, of other people, of other innocent people.

00:47:40.660 And I can tell you that that's also going very well.

00:47:43.700 I had a very good meeting with the RCMP, um, and I expect a few more in a, in a, in, in, in other detachments.

00:47:52.700 I expect, um, some very good meetings with Crown in, in the near future.

00:47:58.120 Um, but in order to, um, you know, we've had to do all the work, right?

00:48:02.580 We've had to do the transcribing of the, the videos, the transcribing of help.

00:48:07.220 We're the ones that have to show the investigating officers of, Hey, you should have looked at this email, compared it to the emails that you had from Donald, those kinds of things.

00:48:17.020 And, you know, as we could begrudge having to do the work, but you know what, there's a good side to that too, Sheila, in that if we do it, they're going to know the extent that they have been manipulated.

00:48:28.740 Um, and maybe there'll be a whole revisit of the entire RCMP organization on how they deal with these cases.

00:48:36.960 So there could be some good come out of it, but it has been exhausting.

00:48:41.740 It has been a huge amount of work and costs, you know, putting binders together with all the tabs and those kinds of things.

00:48:49.420 You know, the, he's a hundred bucks here, 500 bucks there.

00:48:53.720 So we do have the, the Donald Smith fundraiser.

00:48:56.840 All of those funds go to help, um, us, uh, recoup some of the costs associated with what we call a very good public service work at this point.

00:49:06.320 If we can stop the insanity and the abuse of our resources as taxpayers and of people, innocent people, vulnerable people, not just Donald Smith, but you know, those estheticians,

00:49:18.900 those hardworking women, um, I was just downstairs at one of the facilities close by here. 1.00

00:49:26.460 Um, and Yana became a discussion.

00:49:29.400 Everybody had a story.

00:49:30.760 I work in a gynecologist office.

00:49:32.720 He's been trying to get an appointment with us.

00:49:35.240 Um, oh, he wanted a job here.

00:49:37.680 He made my staff fill out his resume.

00:49:40.620 That's just, you know, it's just, it's out.

00:49:44.500 Um, I don't want him in the public change rooms here in Langley. 0.97

00:49:48.900 This, this man is a predator.

00:49:51.480 He has fetishes that are not healthy and should not be around our young and vulnerable women and young ladies and young girls. 0.84

00:49:59.780 Um, and in a way, this may be the case that will be the turning point for this lunacy around this gender identity expression. 0.59

00:50:08.960 And as I say, go ahead.

00:50:11.080 I would defend Yanny's right to dress up like a woman, put on lipsticks, whatever you want to do, but you'll never be a woman. 1.00

00:50:19.960 You'll never have what I have.

00:50:21.700 And you should not be able to skew statistics around biological females.

00:50:26.000 You should not use our private places and you should not bring your predatory conduct to a place where you are, can harm vulnerable people.

00:50:36.140 And that predatory conduct goes to what he's doing online to Donald Smith, what he did to those estheticians, what he's doing to these young girls that he, um, grooms online.

00:50:46.780 And at some point, somebody has to compile all that information and get some justice done.

00:50:53.000 And I can say I'm pretty optimistic that something good is going to happen along those lines.

00:51:00.620 Carrie, from your lips to God's ears, where can people find the link to the fundraiser for Donald Smith and the work you're doing for him?

00:51:07.540 So it's on cultureguard.com.

00:51:10.620 Um, you can follow us on Facebook as well.

00:51:13.220 It'll be reposted on, on that.

00:51:15.780 Um, and yeah, cultureguard.com has most of the information about what's going on and who we're involved with.

00:51:22.760 We have a number of challenges going on right now that just expose the craziness that, uh, the Western world seems to have embraced and, uh, needs to, uh, purge itself from.

00:51:34.680 So, um, yeah, busy times on a lot of fronts, but, uh, never boring, Sheila.

00:51:40.960 No, never boring.

00:51:42.420 Carrie, I want to thank you so much for being so generous with your time today.

00:51:46.600 It's a big story that required a lot of storytelling, um, and your patience with me and my Skype connection as all of the county that I live in is apparently on the internet on the one tower.

00:51:59.100 So, so we had, we had a few bumps in the road, um, but, um, you're very patient and forgiving with me.

00:52:06.120 Carrie, we'll have you back on the show really soon because I think, I think we're all going to be following what happens with you and Jonathan, you need very closely.

00:52:14.940 Well, and I want to say, Sheila, to you and everybody at rebel media, um, this is truly a new world.

00:52:21.320 And, uh, I thank you for all the good work you and your colleagues do there.

00:52:26.080 Um, it is, uh, a challenge I know, but, uh, we are making inroads and a difference.

00:52:32.340 And I think civil Canadians across the country are rising up and, and some good is going to come out of it in the very near future.

00:52:40.040 So my appreciation to all of you, the rebel.

00:52:42.860 Oh, thank you so much.

00:52:44.840 And I appreciate your, your optimism.

00:52:46.720 You're really seeing the silver lining in all of this and it's hard.

00:52:50.280 Um, thanks again, Carrie.

00:52:51.960 All right.

00:52:52.400 Bye for now.

00:52:59.880 What a wild story.

00:53:01.760 I just want Jonathan, you need to stop.

00:53:04.360 And I hope between Carrie and us here at rebel news, we can put an end to his reign of tyranny.

00:53:10.220 Kian and David are both suing Yaniv for the assaults against them.

00:53:15.060 And you can support their lawsuit at yanivetrial.com.

00:53:19.700 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:53:21.580 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:53:23.260 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:53:27.920 Please stay healthy and don't go stir crazy.

00:53:31.620 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:53:40.220 We'll see you next week.

Rebel News Podcast - March 26, 2020

Jonathan Yaniv accused of threatening more reporters (Guest： Kari Smith)

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