Rebel News Podcast - Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh don't support the freedom to draw Mohammed

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Yesterday, Jagmeet Singh and Justin Trudeau refused to say that they support

00:00:05.380 the human right, the civil right, the charter right, to draw a cartoon of Mohammed. Why wouldn't

00:00:11.540 they say that? I'll read to you from the only news report of their refusal, the only news report in

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00:00:40.660 Tonight, Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh make it clear they do not support freedom of expression.

00:01:01.480 It means drawing an image of Mohammed. It's October 30th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:06.400 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:12.440 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:16.520 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:01:21.380 right to do so.

00:01:22.380 Here's a story from a Quebec newspaper called Le Divoire.

00:01:32.260 Trudeau évite de se prononcer sur le droit de caricaturer Mohammed. 0.92

00:01:39.880 What do you think of my French accent? In English, that means Trudeau avoids pronouncing on the

00:01:45.000 rights to caricature Mohammed caricatures and to draw cartoons. Now, I'm going to run this story 0.97

00:01:50.580 through Google Translate now so you're not punished by my terrible accent. I'm going to read the Google

00:01:55.240 Translate version. Translation's not perfect, but it works well enough. I just wanted to show you the

00:01:59.900 original French version first. It's written by Helen Bozzetti, who is based in Ottawa, because this one

00:02:08.140 was an exchange in Parliament. Had a press scrum, so there's no excuse why this wasn't in every media

00:02:14.880 outlet across Canada. I mean, there are literally hundreds of accredited journalists who were based

00:02:22.360 in Ottawa, including dozens from the big legacy media like CBC and CTV, and none of them covered

00:02:27.940 this. We would have, but we'd been banned from the Parliamentary Press Gallery. China's state 1.00

00:02:33.600 broadcaster Xinhua is allowed in, but not us. Our competitors have colluded to ban us. You can see

00:02:40.380 why. Because they prefer if certain stories are not told. Well, Helen Bozzetti apparently didn't

00:02:45.980 get the memo yesterday because she did, in fact, cover the story. Here's what it says, translated

00:02:51.700 from Google, by Google from French. While a new Islamist, that's a word you don't see in English

00:02:58.360 papers, while a new Islamist attack afflicts France, federal politicians are reluctant to call the right

00:03:05.140 for anyone to caricature the Muslim prophet Mohammed. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has avoided answering

00:03:10.300 the question, while the leader of the NDP believes that we must avoid unnecessarily fueling hatred.

00:03:17.380 There's a lot of words in there you would never see in an English language newspaper. Good for Helen

00:03:22.040 Bozzetti for saying those things. In French, though, in Quebec only, because Quebec is actually less

00:03:27.300 politically correct about Islam. They take their culture more seriously since they're worried about

00:03:33.760 the French-Canadian culture melting away in North America. So they fight for their French-Canadian

00:03:38.840 culture, their history, their language, their norms, which includes very particular thoughts about

00:03:44.540 religion and secularism. And then, of course, the recent attacks in France have been in France.

00:03:50.360 And likely everyone in Quebec has watched the French news in their native tongue. So the opposite of

00:03:56.940 the cowardly English-Canadian press gallery. I'll read some more. 0.97

00:04:00.280 The Nice attack, which resulted in three deaths, was carried out Thursday morning by a young man

00:04:07.020 shouting, Allahu Akbar! It is still unclear for the moment whether, as in the case of the beheading of

00:04:11.960 Samuel Patti, the gesture was made in response to the publication of cartoons of Mohammed, which became

00:04:17.560 relevant again with the ongoing trial of the supporters of the attack on Charlie Hebdo. But the question was

00:04:23.060 nonetheless put to Mr. Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh, should we, in the name of Western values, publicly

00:04:28.200 assert that it is permissible to make fun of religion, including caricaturing Mohammed?

00:04:33.740 There's a lot of fair questions in there. Obvious questions to me, which is why it's so surprising

00:04:39.080 that any Canadian journalist would ask them. Good for her, I say again. And look at this. Look at the

00:04:44.320 boldness of this next line. Asked three times, Jagmeet Singh refused to answer directly. The NDP

00:04:52.660 leader has repeatedly reiterated his faith in free speech, while adding that we should not

00:04:58.640 attack others unnecessarily. You have to stand up for freedom of expression, even if you don't agree

00:05:04.500 with someone, Singh said. But, hang on, there's no but after that, but he added one. But also,

00:05:11.040 if we want to have peace in society, we must also recognize that the freedom to express our thoughts

00:05:16.960 is not a freedom to expressly create divisions and hatred, he added. That there are limits to

00:05:23.980 expressing hatred or promoting hatred towards others. It is a limit that we have accepted as a

00:05:28.400 society, because it is important for living together. Well, hang on, hang on, hang on. Which is it?

00:05:34.160 Do we have free expression or not? Or only if you don't create divisions. Isn't every

00:05:40.900 decision in life a division? Isn't every controversy a division? I mean, do we have separation of mosque

00:05:47.080 and state or not? It's a yes or no. Are we allowed to draw pictures of Jesus and to mock him? Yes or no?

00:05:54.280 There's no maybe. How about for Mohammed? These are yes or no questions. In parliament, a vote is called

00:06:00.540 calling for a division. It's what democracy is built on. That's why we have elections. So we can talk

00:06:06.980 about things, according to Jack Mead Singh, but nothing divisive. That means we can talk about

00:06:11.960 nothing. And why can't you hate a religion, if we're going to use the word hate? I don't recommend

00:06:18.800 hate. I don't prescribe hate. But if someone feels that human emotion, why can't they feel that way?

00:06:26.160 And why can't they express it peacefully? But why can't they express their emotion? A religion

00:06:30.920 might have a rule that you cannot criticize that religion. All right. I would say that's not a very

00:06:36.500 robust faith, I must say, but fine. But how is that internal rule of Islam applicable to the rest of

00:06:42.840 us who are not Muslim? If you want to be Muslim or Jewish or Christian or Sikh or Buddhist or a

00:06:47.720 Scientologist or a vegetarian, help yourself. But why should the rest of us have to follow your particular

00:06:53.240 group's rules too? I'll read some more. Mr. Singh stressed that it was difficult for him to measure

00:06:59.200 the impact of a cartoon of Mohammed since he is not a Muslim. But I can say that it is essential 0.99

00:07:04.340 to find a way to achieve our ultimate goal of living together. Well, there are various ways to

00:07:08.680 live together. One is as equals, peacefully under a common rule of law. There's other ways too. I mean,

00:07:15.420 under Sharia law, it is true even infidels can live under Islamic Sharia law if they agree to submit to 1.00

00:07:24.280 Islam and abide by certain strictures. For example, to pay an infidel tax called the Jazeera. I visited 0.99

00:07:31.760 Bethlehem. For centuries, they were allowed to have Christians in Bethlehem. They just had to live under 1.00

00:07:39.080 the laws of Islam. Absolutely, Islam allows Jews and Christians to still live there. You just wouldn't 1.00

00:07:44.780 want to live that way. Just like prison wardens and prisoners have found a way to live together. Yeah,

00:07:49.380 it's just not equalism. Secular Muslims disagree with the stabbers. Secular Muslims, of whom there 1.00

00:07:56.140 are many in France and many in Quebec, despise this cowardice in the face of terrorists and Islamists. 0.62

00:08:01.180 But Singh and Trudeau are practiced at caving into the most extreme elements and ignoring the modern

00:08:08.200 elements. Let me read some more. Mr. Trudeau was even more evasive in limiting himself to condemning

00:08:13.800 the French attack. He did not say a word about the freedom to caricature. Quote,

00:08:18.280 we absolutely condemn these heinous, unacceptable terrorist attacks. There is absolutely nothing to

00:08:22.120 justify this violence. It is unjustifiable. We stand by all the French people, said the Prime

00:08:26.860 Minister. He added that it was necessary, however, at the same time, quote, to recognize that these

00:08:31.040 criminals, these terrorists, these murderers do not in any way represent Islam or Muslims. Okay, got it.

00:08:36.220 So he'll say the murderers don't reflect Islam. He'll say that. They say they do. They shout 1.00

00:08:43.620 ala Akbar when they commit the murders. As I told you the other day, the local mosque 0.99

00:08:48.180 actually organized a protest against the school where the cartoons had been shown. The imam at that

00:08:53.960 local mosque actually texted back and forth with the murderer of the school teacher. But sure, 0.67

00:08:58.740 noted Quranic scholar Justin Trudeau says that these have nothing to do with Islam, got it. And he would 1.00

00:09:04.000 know. But if that is true, then why doesn't he stand up for the right to draw Muhammad cartoons, 0.68

00:09:08.060 since he disavows those who claim it's a crime deserving of execution? If you say that Islam does 1.00

00:09:15.600 not kill infidels, why are you not willing to say that freedom of speech includes drawing cartoons of 0.99

00:09:22.340 Muhammad? We are banned from these press conferences because we would ask questions about freedom of

00:09:27.800 speech from that freedom of speech point of view. No other media there did so. I give credit to the

00:09:32.160 Quebec reporters who asked these questions and to Helen Bozzetti who noted the invasiveness. But

00:09:36.340 where's the CBC state broadcaster? Where's CTV Global? Where's the Globe and Mail? Where's the

00:09:42.860 Toronto Star? Where's the National Post? Do they find it uninteresting that Trudeau and Singh won't

00:09:48.240 defend the right to mock Islam or to caricature Muhammad? I mean, you don't have to recommend

00:09:53.120 mocking or caricaturing to defend the right to do so. I mean, how about this for an answer?

00:09:59.840 We want to live in harmony. We want to respect each other and our religious faiths. But part of being in a

00:10:05.220 liberal, pluralistic democracy is that we permit criticism of any ideas, including religions.

00:10:10.840 How about saying that? Just say that. Is it not true anymore? And for Justin Trudeau to be such a

00:10:17.260 coward about it, his own father brought in the Charter of Rights that specifies our fundamental

00:10:21.560 freedoms. So important, they give them their own special section in the Charter called Fundamental

00:10:25.660 Freedoms. It's brief. I'm going to read it. I know Justin Trudeau has never read this. Let me read it for him.

00:10:30.620 Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms. A, freedom of conscience and religion. B, freedom of

00:10:37.500 thought, belief, opinion, and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication.

00:10:42.220 C, freedom of peaceful assembly. And D, freedom of association. That pretty much covers it.

00:10:48.760 How about you say, as my dad said, Charter of Rights and Freedoms, free... How about you say that?

00:10:53.760 Well, there's no such thing in the Charter there. I just read it to you. There's no such freedom of

00:11:00.160 expression with respect, as our disgraceful foreign minister said the other day in that tweet that

00:11:07.620 Canada supports freedom of expression with respect. You have to have that respect for it. If you don't

00:11:12.520 respect someone, then they can stab you or bomb you. That's the Islamist way. That's the Chinese 1.00

00:11:18.200 Communist Party way that Francois-Philippe Champagne believes in. But that's not the way of Canada.

00:11:22.600 It's not the way of the Charter of Rights. It's not Pierre Trudeau's way, but it's Justin Trudeau's

00:11:27.480 way, and it's Jagmeet Singh's way. And it's the way of 99% of the media party. I'm worried that it'll

00:11:33.920 become Canada's way. Stay with us for more.

00:11:37.180 Welcome back. Well, of course, we're Canadians, and we think about Canadian things. But what the

00:11:53.940 United States says and does has a disproportionate impact on us. America is the world's leading nation,

00:12:00.360 certainly the beacon of freedom and democracy. And we have the luck of being their next-door

00:12:05.640 neighbor and closest ally. So, of course, it's going to affect us. But the themes of the U.S.

00:12:11.700 election, a small government, a rule of law, the foreign policy approach, the approach to terrorism,

00:12:22.640 the approach to China, so many of the things that Donald Trump stands for and that the Biden campaign

00:12:28.380 is against, will have an immediate effect on our country. Just to pick one example, whether or not

00:12:34.220 Canada chooses to let Huawei, China's high-tech mega company, set up our 5G. That is one of the things,

00:12:42.380 I believe, one of the many things that will turn on this U.S. election. In some ways, I think this

00:12:49.160 momentous election coming up next week will have more impact on Canadians than even the Canadian election

00:12:58.660 itself. So, we will be live-streaming the election results. I understand that the first results from

00:13:05.160 Florida will come in at 7 p.m. Eastern Time. So, I think we're going to start our live stream about a half hour

00:13:12.580 before that, 6.30 p.m. Eastern Time. That's 4.30 p.m. Mountain Time. And we'll go late. We'll go long.

00:13:21.100 We're making plans to be in this chair for a while because, of course, we want to see what happens in

00:13:27.020 those key early states like Florida. But there are a lot of states in contention. Obviously, California

00:13:33.560 and Hawaii are shoe-ins for the Democrats. But there's a lot of interesting places. We'll have to stay up late.

00:13:39.220 I wonder how Pennsylvania will go. I wonder how Ohio, Wisconsin, and Michigan will go.

00:13:46.300 Well, one of the guests who will be joining us intermittently through the night on Tuesday

00:13:50.700 is our friend Ben Weingarten, who's a fellow at the Claremont Institute, has written variously

00:13:57.580 for The Federalist, and in fact has a new piece in Newsweek. He joins us now. Ben, how are you doing?

00:14:05.200 Ezra, I'm well. How about you? And thanks for having me on.

00:14:07.480 Well, it's a pleasure, and I'm very grateful to you for being our go-to U.S. expert that

00:14:14.360 night. We're going to have lots of things we're talking about. We'll bring in the rebel

00:14:17.960 team from Canada. But over the course of the last year, I've come to know your deep command

00:14:24.180 of American politics, not just at the shallow talking points level, but, for example, your

00:14:29.860 book, American Ingrate, about Ilhan Omar and, of course, the state of Minnesota, a place

00:14:34.900 where Donald Trump thinks he can win him. Very interesting election. Give us your thoughts

00:14:40.400 on the lay of the land. Mark Morano yesterday said it's a 50-50, knife's edge for him. What's

00:14:46.640 your thinking?

00:14:48.440 Yeah, to me, and I don't mean this as a cop-out answer because I think it's still the contrarian

00:14:53.520 answer when you look at where the national polling is and even most of the state polling

00:14:58.820 as well. I think it's a toss-up, and this election rests on a knife's edge, and it's purely going to

00:15:05.360 be a function of intensity and passion leading to turnout. And the reason I say that is I don't think

00:15:13.040 anyone is undecided on these two men. They're two of the most known political officials, one not

00:15:19.520 really, one kind of an anti-political official, but two of the most known quantities possible out

00:15:24.920 there. What they represent are two conflicting worldviews, two conflicting paths for America,

00:15:31.080 frankly, for Western civilization as a whole. I'd even go above and beyond just one representing

00:15:35.920 American values and the other representing a party, which is in hock to those like Ilhan Omar who

00:15:42.360 believe in values that are completely antithetical to them. I think it's civilization versus de-civilization

00:15:47.940 on the ballot. It's more than just two choices. It's an existential election. It's a survival

00:15:54.020 election. And if America is to repudiate its founding values and principles in toto, which

00:16:00.300 is what I think would happen to the extent there was a Democrat sweep, I think it portends

00:16:05.640 terrible things for Western civilization. There's no place to go after America. We can't go north

00:16:10.720 to Canada, and we can't go south to Mexico either. So everything sort of hinges on this. I wish it

00:16:15.680 weren't so. If we were adhering to our founding values and principles, and we were kind of debating

00:16:20.560 over means but not ends, and we agreed on those ends, we'd be in a much better place. Unfortunately,

00:16:26.580 we're not. And Donald Trump is essentially the one man, the single force fighting against what I view

00:16:33.340 as a tyrannical leftist movement that's really revealing itself in these final days where in

00:16:38.220 Washington, D.C. and cities across the country, already in main streets, stores are covering up

00:16:44.480 their storefronts, boarding them up in anticipation of anti-civilizational unrest and riots. And there's

00:16:51.560 a shutdown D.C. movement that plans to do just that in the days following the election. You have

00:16:56.820 essentially dissenting opinions being completely censored on social media and elsewhere, and you

00:17:01.760 have a blackout, and I assume we'll talk about this a bit during this segment, of any information

00:17:07.280 that at all could damage Joe Biden's political trajectory. So these are scary times. I do really

00:17:13.700 believe, though, that it is on a knife's edge. It's going to come down to those few states.

00:17:17.580 As you mentioned, Pennsylvania, for one, it looks like Florida is trending in the president's

00:17:21.600 direction, and those Rust Belt states as well. And we will see where it comes out in Wisconsin

00:17:27.180 and Michigan and the rest.

00:17:29.660 Yes, very interesting. You know, you were using very dramatic language, but I think the evidence

00:17:35.520 supports it. I mean, the fact that essential elements of the American democracy, the checks and

00:17:41.200 balances of the Constitution, have all been directly challenged by senior voices in the Democrats,

00:17:47.880 from Biden himself, Nancy Pelosi, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who represents the Red Guards of the movement,

00:17:55.780 challenging the Electoral College, talking about packing the courts. There's so many things,

00:18:03.040 even the idea that votes would be counted up to nine days later, the possibility for total electoral

00:18:09.420 fraud. These are not people who are two happy teams, the blue team and the red team, playing a, you know,

00:18:16.920 a football match, and then they're both going to go home, hey, job well done, I accept the win,

00:18:20.920 I accept the loss. One team is so zealously intent on power that it has effectively said in advance,

00:18:29.000 it will do whatever it takes to win. And the fact that the riots are so palpable in the air,

00:18:37.000 that people are boarding up store windows now, only one side rides. It's not being a summer of

00:18:42.840 discontent where conservatives have been rioting. Conservatives don't riot. That's the left saying,

00:18:49.720 yeah, you're damn straight, we're going to riot.

00:18:52.460 Yeah, and I think something that was underappreciated among many who would call themselves

00:18:57.500 conservatives or Republicans in 2016 was the fact that Trump saw this. He saw the other side and

00:19:04.760 clearly over this three and three quarters years of his tenure thus far, he's seen the fact that the

00:19:11.380 other side wants it all. They want to dominate. They want total power. This isn't about, there was

00:19:17.900 never a transition of power, a peaceful transition of power in any traditional respect. This is a

00:19:23.340 president who's had to fight for every last thing opposed by a bureaucracy that's probably more than 95%

00:19:29.000 at his throat the entire way. And I think that's a representation of where kind of the elite and the

00:19:35.200 political establishment is in America. And they're leading, they're kind of stalking horse in the radical

00:19:41.260 left that is out in the streets. And this kind of woke, big tech, Wall Street alliance that we see,

00:19:48.000 ultimately, they believe that their regime should triumph over our regime in the classical sense.

00:19:55.200 And that's why everyone always says it's the most important election of all time. But in this case, it

00:19:59.440 really is up there because it really is two antithetical worldviews that are competing with each other

00:20:04.860 right now. And again, I think the reason that Trump has been so loathed and hated this entire time is that

00:20:10.360 he's been willing to fight fire with fire in a way that no non-leftist has represented towards the left

00:20:18.520 and the political establishment. And that's why they've tried to destroy him at every turn. And

00:20:21.540 that's why even if after election day, President Trump wins and Republicans hold the Senate and

00:20:25.460 Republicans miraculously took a majority in the house, still the day after they'd be fighting just

00:20:30.420 for survival because the other side is engaged in perpetual political warfare and it's a zero sum game

00:20:36.460 for them. It's all or nothing. And they'll do anything and everything they possibly can within

00:20:40.820 the law and outside the law, ultimately, to triumph over us. Yeah. You make me think of about a year

00:20:46.040 ago, we had an interview with a fellow, I can't remember his name right now. I think he was a

00:20:49.600 historical hydrologist or something who focused on once a century floods. And he was making the case

00:20:58.020 that, you know, once a century floods doesn't mean you have to wait 100 years for it to happen.

00:21:04.100 It's just, it could happen two years in a row, theoretically. And what are the odds of that

00:21:09.300 happening and how it applies to, can you get insurance for your house in a floodplain?

00:21:13.580 He was saying, apply that to political unrest. He says, America has had two once a century floods

00:21:20.360 politically, the Revolutionary War and the Civil War. And he said, what are the odds of a once a

00:21:26.360 century flood happening in your lifetime of an American? And he was trying to make the case that

00:21:32.040 it is a real possibility, not a one in a million never happened thing. And he was making the case

00:21:37.780 for buying a firearm, keep it in your attic. And he was explaining why Silicon Valley billionaires

00:21:42.760 might build a safe room. I got to say, we've had a summer of riots. We've had an attempted soft coup

00:21:53.000 perpetually. I think that historical hydrologist is sort of right. I mean, we saw that couple,

00:22:02.040 I'm trying to remember if it was in St. Louis or where they were, who the mob came up to their house.

00:22:08.940 The mom and dad came out with firearms to protect their house. It was a beautiful house. Maybe you

00:22:14.340 recall the neighborhood I'm talking about. And they were charged with brandishing firearms.

00:22:19.060 We are at that once a century flood that that hydrologist was talking about. I really think so.

00:22:26.280 And my God, bat in the hatches because it's coming.

00:22:29.600 Well, look, we've seen scenes that are reminiscent of at least what's described in texts of the Chinese

00:22:37.500 Maoist cultural revolution, the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks duking it out. And we are living that 0.89

00:22:44.360 in America right now. And it's not to say that it's the vast majority that's that way. But certainly

00:22:49.080 those at the commanding heights of society, to keep it in that sort of leftist milieu,

00:22:55.700 those at the commanding heights have completely conceded to this radical movement, either out of

00:23:02.000 cowardice, out of what they perceive to be their own self-interest, or because they're true believers

00:23:07.180 themselves. And unfortunately, I think far too great a percentage are true believers because they've

00:23:11.980 been educated at the schools and indoctrinated in the schools and a culture which has put forth this

00:23:17.380 anti-American, progressive, radically leftist, intersectionalist, we can run through the adjective,

00:23:23.400 worldview. So to your point, look, we've seen images of this in America that are un-American,

00:23:29.500 fundamentally, images. And there have been riots and essentially and looting and criminality run

00:23:36.880 rampant in the past. In the seventies, you had radical leftist movements, and there were dozens

00:23:41.800 of bombings that took place in America among these radicals, many of whom are now on the faculty at

00:23:47.940 universities around the country. But what is fundamentally different today is that you have

00:23:52.940 one party that will not stand up to this sort of thing. What is acceptable for leading Democrats

00:23:58.860 across this country today would have been unacceptable for Democrats a generation ago,

00:24:02.920 maybe even 10 years ago. So the acceleration of that radicalism and what's radical becoming

00:24:08.600 mainstream among the political establishment is something that I do believe, I rarely say

00:24:14.820 unprecedented, but it may be unprecedented where you have just an insurrection on the part of our

00:24:19.720 so-called leaders. So you have a senator in Massachusetts, Ed Markey, who says originalism is

00:24:25.680 sexist, racist, et cetera. This is in context of Amy Comey Barrett, the Supreme Court nomination,

00:24:32.260 fight. When you have someone in the U.S. Senate saying that basically originalism, the founding

00:24:38.120 ideology, what undergirds our constitution or declaration of independence and the like

00:24:43.360 is an inherently evil and immoral sort of philosophy, that means you have people in the

00:24:48.700 Senate who are rejecting the very institution they serve. And that's where we are in America

00:24:52.600 today. And you can't long survive if the representatives of half the country are putting forth a view that

00:24:57.620 seeks to take the country down. Yeah. You know, I think there are people who ideologically want to

00:25:03.060 undermine America from within, but I think they've actually been aided by forces from without 0.80

00:25:08.520 Yuri Bezmenov, the Cold War defector from the Soviet Union to Canada actually did a video series and you can

00:25:15.960 see it on YouTube. It's everywhere about how you demoralize the country and you can make it right for

00:25:21.880 this sort of upheaval. That can happen internally, but I think, and of course the Democrats say, oh,

00:25:28.980 Russia, Russia, Russia. Well, I think there actually is a huge interest in China to, if not undermine 0.73

00:25:36.820 America, at least to tame it and stop it from pushing back on China's ascendancy militarily, 0.96

00:25:43.540 economically, commercially, in terms of cybersecurity. And I want to bring in your essay

00:25:48.560 in Newsweek magazine. I'm impressed that you were published there. The headline of your piece is

00:25:53.960 Joe Biden clinched communist China's vote in the final debate. And I think that's a foreign affairs

00:26:02.880 and sort of an espionage and great game story, but it's also very much a domestic story too.

00:26:09.440 China doesn't just want to push us aside militarily. They don't want us to block their dumped goods. 0.67

00:26:18.140 They don't want us to block their tech. They don't want our factories reshored

00:26:22.600 in North America. They want to keep things going just perfectly as they have been over the last 20

00:26:29.740 years. I think China is a very real foreign and domestic threat, the likes of which maybe America 0.99

00:26:36.560 has never seen. Maybe there's a lot of foreign threats, but that same country being a foreign and 0.90

00:26:40.860 domestic threat. This feels new. Let me make three quick points. The first is that the greatest

00:26:48.060 beneficiary of Russia, Russia, Russia, besides the Democratic Party who has put forth this narrative

00:26:54.420 that our president is compromised by the Russians on the basis of absurd allegations that have been

00:27:00.380 totally debunked while similar allegations on the other side are ignored. The biggest beneficiary of that

00:27:05.160 is China, which is far richer, stronger, and more powerful than Russia. So all the focus on Russia has

00:27:11.540 diminished our resources and turned our attention away from the far greater immediate, medium-term and long-term

00:27:17.760 threat, which is communist China. Number two, in terms of the kind of domestic impact of this unrest and the 0.57

00:27:25.500 foreign relation to it, the entire basis, at least stated basis, of U.S.-China relations and integration,

00:27:34.040 accommodation, and what I would describe as appeasement over the decades, once we got past

00:27:39.720 the throes of the Cold War, was that economic integration and liberalization would lead to

00:27:45.800 political liberalization, social liberalization, and essentially peace, a kumbaya sort of world

00:27:51.620 between the U.S. and China. The fact of the matter is that the U.S. has become more like China than 0.63

00:27:56.480 China has become like us. And so when we talk about the censorship of big tech and we talk about state

00:28:03.380 media and control of the narrative and what is acceptable, what we're seeing in America today

00:28:08.860 scarily resembles what we have in China, where there is one media, there is one party line,

00:28:15.960 and if you run afoul of it, your life could literally be in danger there. Thankfully, we're not here yet,

00:28:20.340 but then you have people taking it into their own hands to try to force their views on Americans today.

00:28:25.220 Number three, Joe Biden is someone who supported that political establishment project agenda of

00:28:32.040 integration and appeasement and accommodation for decades at every single level from his perch as

00:28:38.240 the chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, as a ranking member there, and then as a vice

00:28:44.020 president where he was responsible for the China portfolio. And at every turn, Joe Biden supported

00:28:49.780 China's rise. He said it wouldn't be a disaster for the American middle class and particularly our

00:28:55.680 manufacturing and industry. He said that China's rise would be a benefit to the American economy.

00:29:01.380 He said, and there are direct quotes of this, that China had repudiated communism and rejected it and

00:29:07.000 admitted it was a failure, essentially, when it came to granting China permanent normalized trade

00:29:12.580 relations and then most favored nation status, which ultimately created a glide path to China,

00:29:17.580 China's accession to the World Trade Organization, which was the rocket fuel for its rise over the 0.95

00:29:23.020 last couple of decades. At every turn, Joe Biden has been an appeaser, in effect, an aider and a

00:29:28.700 better of the Chinese Communist Party's rise. And he's even said it's a good thing. It's a positive thing 0.99

00:29:33.660 as recently as beyond 2010. And then, of course, in 2019, he said China isn't real competition for us.

00:29:40.540 He said, come on, man, which is what he always says. So what I suggest is that in the last debate,

00:29:46.680 Joe Biden went back to this hobby horse of China and in several ways essentially said his

00:29:52.440 administration would return to that untenable status quo that has put the world in a position

00:29:57.240 where China really could be the sole superpower and we could be its tribute states, its vassals,

00:30:04.400 essentially. And Joe Biden's been the vessel of China's rise at the top purchase of the U.S.

00:30:12.920 federal government. And in that last debate, he proved it in several ways, which we can walk

00:30:17.720 through. But the fact of the matter is he would be a minister for the country. And that's before we

00:30:23.720 even get into his family's dealings with communist China-linked individuals and entities, which in

00:30:28.280 and of themselves compromised Joe Biden. Yeah. You know, I see news that the second Chinese aircraft 0.97

00:30:34.040 carrier claims to be operational and why should we doubt it? I think the U.S. Navy is still

00:30:41.240 qualitatively superior to China's. But I don't know how long I would say that. I mean, they used to be 1.00

00:30:48.280 flying old, junky versions of MiGs. Now they've basically stolen the tech and have replicated F-22s and

00:30:57.640 perhaps soon F-35s. I think that they are a genuine military threat to America.

00:31:05.880 I think a lot of these arguments that you've just outlined could have been seen to the public eye.

00:31:10.520 But now that we see behind the scenes when Hunter Biden, his son's laptop is being revealed.

00:31:16.440 I mean, I've heard of honey traps before when you when you compromise someone with sex or drugs or money.

00:31:23.560 Well, I mean, Hunter Biden is Winnie the Pooh to that honey trap. He took all of them.

00:31:28.600 It's shocking information on that laptop. But there's basically been a cone of silence

00:31:34.200 from any mainstream media other than the alternative media on the right,

00:31:40.280 the New York Post, which has been censored by Twitter for talking about it, and Tucker Carlson on

00:31:44.440 Fox. I don't know if the news has gone larger than what Jake Tapper of CNN calls the right-wing

00:31:51.320 echo chamber. And let me ask you about that. I think that what's in that laptop doesn't just show

00:31:58.680 that Joe Biden's son is completely, and he's probably being extorted right now, although he

00:32:04.280 wouldn't even know it because he's happy to do for them whatever they want. But there's references to

00:32:09.960 Joe Biden himself of cutting Joe Biden himself in on funds. And we don't know if that's true yet,

00:32:19.080 if those things actually happen. But there's no inquiry. We've seen every witch hunt for what the

00:32:24.600 Trump kids are doing and alleged collusion with Trump for four years. Here you have photographic

00:32:31.880 and video evidence and countless emails. And it's not just lack of interest. They're positively

00:32:39.480 bearing it. As Dave Berg would say, they're covering that story with a pillow until it stops moving.

00:32:44.440 Do you think if that story were recovered naturally and normally, it would make a difference in the

00:32:50.360 election? Or is it, as you said at the beginning, people have already made up their minds about

00:32:54.600 these two men and no one's going to move?

00:32:56.600 I think in some ways, it's a fait accompli. As you said, those who are actually following all of

00:33:05.560 the revelations of this story probably were already Trump supporters to begin with.

00:33:09.880 The criticality of the story is that Biden's whole meta narrative is I'm a return to decency and

00:33:18.360 character and normalcy, which I guess normalcy he is in the sense of it. He's a corrupt swamp creature

00:33:24.760 who spent almost 50 years empowering what's turned out to be the West's worst adversary in communist

00:33:30.920 China. So influence peddling and corruption, yeah, that is a return to normalcy and the swamp of the 1.00

00:33:36.040 political establishment. But character and decency, it goes directly to the core of it because the

00:33:41.000 story really isn't about Hunter. In some ways, you could make a case that Hunter is a troubled person

00:33:47.400 and his family essentially exposed his demons and made it much worse by putting him in the position

00:33:54.840 of being the one out there running all these so-called business operations with our worst

00:34:00.440 adversaries. And the emails themselves, many of which have been authenticated, indicate that he was

00:34:07.320 kicking lots of that income back to his father, that his father may have been cut into some of these

00:34:13.480 deals. We don't know. We don't necessarily have a smoking gun. We do know that Joe Biden apparently

00:34:18.600 has lied about the fact that he never talked with his son or his family members about this business,

00:34:23.240 which is just laughable. But the Tony Bobulinski interview puts an end to that lie. But I think

00:34:30.120 the bigger thing is, let's say every one of these dealings was above board in the sense of there wasn't

00:34:34.920 money laundering and supposedly there's a money laundering investigation around this. There wasn't

00:34:39.080 money laundering. Joe Biden never got a penny. His family didn't serve as cutouts for him, essentially

00:34:44.360 collecting money on his behalf and purchasing gifts or other things on his behalf as a result of the

00:34:49.320 business. The fact of the matter is the mere appearance of corruption or potential of corruption,

00:34:55.000 where you have a man who is a vice president of the United States dealing with China and many of

00:34:58.680 our other adversaries, and his family is doing business with those linked to the governments of

00:35:03.240 those corrupt and or adversarial places, including in strategically significant sectors,

00:35:08.600 that alone, that appearance of corruption, that appearance of impropriety and the potential for

00:35:13.720 compromise, enough should be disqualifying. And if you were to look at the basic forms for vetting

00:35:19.560 any national security official in America, your viewers can go online, look up an SF-86 form,

00:35:25.080 standard form 86, that every person who applies for a national security or foreign policy position

00:35:30.840 has to go through in their vetting. It points out you need to put forth all of your family relations

00:35:37.000 and friends relations with anyone who is a foreigner. And if they have any ties to the

00:35:41.560 government or the military or intelligence have to be disclosed, and the nature of your dealings

00:35:45.480 have to be disclosed. Now, obviously, Joe Biden was a vice president, so he's going to have dealings

00:35:49.800 with all of these foreigners, but that his family is involved in business dealings associated with

00:35:55.000 adversarial and corrupt regimes alone, raise so infinite red flags to the point where if Joe Biden was not

00:36:01.480 Joe Biden, I don't believe he could come close to getting a security clearance. And that is why it's

00:36:06.600 such a critical issue. It gets to the heart of this, again, this lie about character and decency,

00:36:12.920 but it also shows he is truly compromised. And if we really care about foreign interference,

00:36:17.640 international security, as has been talked about endlessly for almost four years now,

00:36:22.360 this is a real-life Steele dossier, and this is a real-life compromise candidate.

00:36:27.000 Incredible. Ben Weingarten, great to catch up with you. Look forward to seeing you on Tuesday night

00:36:31.800 to be one of our Sherpas guiding us through what is sure to be a momentous night. I am nervous. I feel

00:36:38.440 just like I did four years ago. I am pessimistic, but a secret part of me is hopeful that all the

00:36:44.920 experts are wrong as they were back then. We'll see you then, my friend.

00:36:48.360 Look forward to it, Ezra. Thanks so much.

00:36:50.600 All right, there you have it. Ben Weingarten, his new essay in Newsweek magazine is called

00:36:54.440 Joe Biden clinched Communist China's vote in the final debate. Stay with us. More ahead of you. 0.92

00:37:11.320 Hey, welcome back on my monologue last night. Stuart writes,

00:37:14.600 mostly peaceful terrorism. Oh, yeah. The media, you know what? I mean, I'll just never get over that

00:37:20.360 laugh in line. You know, CNN standing in front of a riot and arson, mostly peaceful protest.

00:37:27.480 Jan writes, freedom of expression with respect is right up there with some animals are more equal

00:37:31.960 than others. Yeah, what does respect even mean? To the killer, it meant if you respect my religious

00:37:41.640 prophet, you can speak freely about everything except that. That's not freedom of speech at all,

00:37:48.760 is it? Well, that's our show today, folks. I'm looking forward to next week very much.

00:37:53.560 I can hardly wait for election night in the U.S. I think it will be a momentous occasion. I'm secretly

00:37:58.840 hopeful. Until then, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:38:03.880 good night. Keep fighting for freedom.

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Rebel News Podcast - October 31, 2020

Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh don't support the freedom to draw Mohammed

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