Justin Trudeau's blackface stunts shock the world
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Time Magazine breaks a story that Canada's media party hasn't or wouldn't or couldn't do in the more than 10 years Justin Trudeau has been Prime Minister. It's a story about Justin Trudeau in full blackface, as in painting his face black. And then there's the added detail of him groping a woman in the same picture.
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Hello, my Rebels. Today, I take you through Justin Trudeau's midnight press conference,
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the one he did on the airplane last night, right after Time Magazine broke the photo
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of him posing in blackface. Within hours, another photo came out of him in high school,
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and then a video of him when he was in college. That is a lot. I take his press conference,
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and I think I break it down into 18 little clips and show you why it's all BS. I think there is
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Tonight, Justin Trudeau shocks the world in a series of blackface stunts that went well into his adult
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years. It's September 19th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Stunning story last night about Justin Trudeau from Time Magazine, as in the American periodical,
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as in they broke a story that Canada's media party hasn't or wouldn't or couldn't do
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in the more than 10 years Justin Trudeau has been an MP, the four years he's been prime minister.
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It's Trudeau in full blackface, as in painting his face black. Oh, and then there's the added
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detail of him groping a woman's chest in the same picture. But that's not even unusual for Trudeau,
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is it? It's unusual when he's in a photo with a woman he isn't groping. Now, this wasn't a picture
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dug up by a private investigator or hacked out of someone's cell phone. It was there in plain sight
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for decades in the yearbook of the elite Vancouver private school where Trudeau was teaching some
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18 years ago. He was 29 years old then. He was a grown man. It's not ancient history,
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and it's not in the Deep South. It's not some Confederacy thing. He was a teacher at an elite
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school in Vancouver in 2001, and he thought it would be a hoot to go full blackface. Oh, and black hands.
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Look at them. You really don't see people going that deep into make-believe other than true nutcases
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like that white girl, Rachel Dolezal, who one day declared she was black. So this news landed like a
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thunderbolt last night, and then almost immediately, as soon as the Time magazine photo came out,
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so did another one, this time when Trudeau was himself a student. He was younger. It was also from
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a yearbook. He had blackface on and a wig. Now, how was it that the second photo came out from a
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totally different news outlet, not Time magazine, just hours after the first one came out? Well,
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obviously, people had been holding on to it and decided to finally use it, as in,
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these had been in the public domain for years. Those yearbooks were personally seen by thousands of
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people, and they were able to be seen by anyone who showed an interest, and no one reported on them,
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though reporters obviously had them. Why hadn't they shown those pictures before during Trudeau's
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first campaign for public office as an MP, during Trudeau's campaign for party leader, during Trudeau's
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campaign as party leader becoming prime minister? How did none of these photos come to light in any of
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those moments of supposed accountability? That's a question for the political war rooms of Stephen
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Harper and Andrew Scheer to answer, but more to the point it's for the CBC and CTV and Global News and
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the Toronto Star and the rest of them to answer, too, which I suppose answers the earlier question of
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why it took Time magazine in the United States to break the silence, because they're not bought off,
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not for $1.5 billion a year like the CBC is, not for $600 million like the newspaper companies are,
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not for the price of a $5 poutine like David Cochran is.
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That's pitiful. Now, this happens all the time, actually, whether it was, you know, that people-kind
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comment, remember that? Maternal love is the love that's going to change the future of mankind.
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So we'd like you to look at that. We like to say people-kind, not necessarily mankind.
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It was the U.S. media that showed us that, or even that goofy water box bottle thing, remember that one?
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We have recently switched to drinking water bottles out of, water out of, when we have water bottles,
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out of plastic, sorry, away from plastic towards paper, like drink box water bottles sort of thing.
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Yeah, that wasn't covered by the Canadian media until it was covered by the American media.
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Some of these stories are big, some are trivial. They're not all important, but they all paint Trudeau
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in a negative light, which is their only commonality. It's the only constant in all the examples I can show you.
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And every single one of those stories was broken by foreign media from America, from the U.K.,
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from Australia because Canada's media is compromised. It's a deep problem that's getting worse. I'm sure
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that several Canadian media outlets had that blackface picture, but just didn't want to embarrass
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their patron, Justin Trudeau, so they sat on it. Only Time Magazine ran with it because they're not
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trying to suck up to Trudeau, and only that, being scooped by an American company, shamed the rest of
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Canada's media into following up. So Trudeau came out last night on his campaign jet and did a little
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scrum. He's done a lot of tearful apologies before over the years, fake tears, of course. He's a
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dramatic actor. He cries when asking for forgiveness for what other people have done. He specializes
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in apologizing for what other politicians did in the 1800s or 1900s even, but of course,
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he's not really apologizing when he does that. He's just virtue signaling about how much more
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morally superior he is personally than those people in eras past. He's so much more enlightened.
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He'll cry on command for the cameras because he's crying for you. He wants you to know that he's
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crying for you. He cares deeply about you and how you were hurt by someone else, and he's sad.
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But last night, no way. No tears. Here, let's listen to a bit of his ironic apology. There are
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some unbelievable moments in it, just total sociopathic tells. I won't play all of it,
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but I'll play some and comment along the way. So we've got about 10 clips. Let's look at the first one.
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In 2001, when I was a teacher out in Vancouver, I attended an end-of-year gala where the theme was
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Arabian Nights, and I dressed up in an Aladdin costume and put makeup on.
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Makeup. I love that. Blackface is what it's called, but he said makeup because it sounds less
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awful. Here, watch some more. I shouldn't have done that. I should have known better,
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but I didn't, and I'm really sorry. Yeah, he was 29. He was a grown-up, and it was 2001. It wasn't
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the 50s. This wasn't that show, Mad Men, about how politically incorrect and racist and sexist
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American offices allegedly were back in the 50s. No, this was 2007, and Trudeau says he didn't know
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this was wrong. I think there are people who've made mistakes in this life, and you make decisions
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based on what they actually do, what they did, and on a case-by-case basis. I think I deeply regret
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that I did that. I should have known better, but I didn't.
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On a case-by-case basis, guys, don't be so mean. This is a rare thing, you know. It's not really
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who he is, folks, and he deeply regrets it, or at least I think he said he thinks he deeply regrets
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it, and he should have known better. So, yeah, that's it. Can we go back to what we were doing
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before? And then a reporter steps in to take this sting out for him, just to help him out a bit,
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by asking a question not about him and what he did, but a process question about some people
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somewhere who were obviously being mean to him, like at Time magazine or something.
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How do you feel about this coming up right now in the campaign?
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Is it really the number one question that was the first question asked of Trudeau tonight? Not about
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the blackface itself, not about his misconduct, but about the timing and how it's obviously a mean
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trick on him? Get that Justin journalist of poutine, people. Surprisingly, Trudeau didn't
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Obviously, I regret that I did it. It's not about timing. It's about having done something
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that I shouldn't have done, and I'm really sorry I did.
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What a joke of a reporter it was who asked that first question. Here's the second question,
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The only time you've done something like this, Mr. Trudeau, is that the only time in your life
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When I was in high school, I dressed up at a talent show and sang Dale with makeup on.
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It was a good question, wasn't it? It was a clear question. Is that the only time you've done it?
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And the answer was equally clear. He did it one more time in high school, and he sang that song
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Dale. The question was asked and answered. So there you have it. Justin Trudeau did it twice.
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There was another process question, someone looking to move away from what Trudeau did to,
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damn it, who leaked the news? Look at this.
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Yeah, sorry, that's pitiful. Trudeau gave the same answer as he did the first time. Good for him,
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I guess. And then another good question was put.
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Many in the United States, when they've been discovered with these sorts of things,
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they are asked to resign. Have you given thought to resign?
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I take responsibility for my decision to do that. I shouldn't have done it. I should have known better.
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It was something that I didn't think was racist at the time, but now I recognize it was something racist to do,
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Okay, now, what does he mean by he takes responsibility?
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I mean, I would hope so. He was a 29-year-old man. He was a teacher of children.
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Who else would take responsibility for what he did besides him? What a weird answer.
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But what does it mean to take responsibility for something, just to say those words?
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I mean, that's how he always does it, though. He's being convicted five times of breaking the
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Conflict of Interest Act, and each time he just looks into the camera, and in his sexy pickup artist voice,
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he says, I take responsibility, and he moves on. But that's actually the opposite of taking
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responsibility, isn't it? And he didn't answer the question about resigning now, did he?
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To Amarjeet Sohi, to Harjit Sajjan, if you have any words to say to some of your staff who may find this offensive.
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I have made a number of calls to friends and colleagues tonight, and I will have many more calls to make.
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So he didn't say what he told his staff, did he? I know what he told his staff. You know.
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Forgive me, and I will return the favor to you. Condemn me, as the liberals have been condemning any
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conservative who did anything with a whiff of intolerance, and we'll all sink in this campaign
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together. I bet there was some begging by Trudeau, some promises offered, some threats made,
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because all it takes is one person of character, one Jody Wilson-Raybould in the caucus, or anywhere
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amongst the 338 liberal candidates. All it takes is one person to speak honestly, and the whole thing
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unravels. That is a lot of people he needs to beg and plead and threaten to keep him in line.
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Fortunately for him, the two principled women had already left the caucus, Jody Wilson-Raybould
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and Jane Philpott. What's left are the sellouts like, like this guy.
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I don't believe that anybody, that anybody has ever lived their lives without making an error, or without
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making errors. The Prime Minister last night presented his apologies, expressed his regrets.
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I think the real measure of the man, and I think that we need to be talking about, and I hope that
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you'll be talking about, are all the amazing things which we've done for diversity, specifically for
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the black Canadian community across this country.
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Yeah, I got to tell you, Uncle Tom's Cabin was a cautionary tale, not an instruction manual.
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I guess Greg Fergus there was given a carrot and a stick, and he complied. He submitted.
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Just like that young woman that Justin Trudeau was pawing back that day. I mean, you go along
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with Trudeau, and you smile, and maybe a little bit of yourself dies inside, but you'll be taken
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care of. Look, he does it to 19-year-old girls. He did it to Bianca on her great day. He can do it
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to middle-aged MPs desperate for re-election even easier. Here's an independent question that he got.
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The Conservatives say you're not as advertised. How can you look at Canadians and tell them that's
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not true? I have worked all my life to try and create opportunities for people to fight against
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racism and intolerance, and I can just stand here and say that I made a mistake when I was younger,
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and I wish I hadn't. I should have known better then, but I didn't, and I did it, and I am deeply
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sorry for it. So again, sounds like he did it once, right? He used the singular. I can say I made
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a mistake. Singular. I'll come back to that in a minute. Here's another question. Take a look.
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I'm going to be asking Canadians to forgive me for what I did. I shouldn't have done that. I take
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responsibility for it. It was a dumb thing to do. I'm disappointed in myself. I'm pissed off at
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myself for having done it. I wish I hadn't done it, but I did it, and I apologize for it.
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Oh, he's mad, people. He's even madder than you are. You can't be mad. He's mad first. He's even
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swearing now. He's pissed off. Oh, boy. When he gets to the bottom of this, there will be heck to pay.
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Someone's going to be held responsible, I tells you. Yeah. There was another good question. Here, look.
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You've known that this happened a long time ago. I've been forthright when this has come forward,
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that it is something that I regret deeply having done. The third time, he was asked Point Black,
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had it ever happened another time? And he said yes when he was in high school, and then he said it
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was a singular mistake, and then he said he's been forthright and told us everything. He's taken
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responsibility. He's one of the good guys here. And he said it again, just in case you miss it,
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let's watch it one more time. Even though, obviously, I've made a mistake in the past.
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Made a mistake in the past. One more question that's on point. The liberal campaign has basically
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been a hurricane of smears against any racism real or imagined in the conservatives. The CBC has
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been in perfect synchronicity with him. This incredible article by the government journalist
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Katie Simpson basically repeats liberal war room talking points. Scheer approves bigotry because he
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forgave some mean tweets written by someone years ago. I mean, that headline there was just
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unbelievable. And here's a reporter noticing the difference between how Trudeau talks about
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intolerance in the conservatives and his own. Take a look.
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What is the consequence for a lot of your candidates? This would be at least calls for
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This would be calls for important conversations with all those candidates and real taking stock
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in the path forward. And I'm having conversations with my colleagues, with fellow candidates. And I'm
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going to be continuing to having conversations with Canadians about this and about many other
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things that we're hoping to work together on positively.
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Hey guys, he's having an important conversation right now. So can you just simmer down?
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He's taking stock on a lot of important things. That's not an answer, but there were a lot of
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buzzwords there. Lots of important positive responsibility taking going on. So just hush now.
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Now someone asked about the groping. That is rare to see that kind of courage. It's still a weak
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ask the way it was put to him, but at least it was asked. Take a look.
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The woman in the photograph is touching her in a very familiar way, depending on your relationship
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Sure. Did he say she was a close friend? She is a close friend. I can't quite tell.
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Do you really believe that the woman he groped was or is a close friend? Do you actually believe that?
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You know, he said the same thing about the Aga Khan, the Ismaili leader, to explain his free
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vacation on Billionaire Island. It was a lie. He hadn't talked to the Aga Khan in more than a decade.
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Yes. Yes, it was. I didn't consider it a racist action at the time, but now we know better.
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And this was something that was unacceptable. And yes, racist.
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Huh. Is that a good enough answer? For months, for years, really, he's been smearing people
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as racist. When he's the racist one, by his own confession, you heard him there say it
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was racist. Why didn't he clear the air before? Well, it's obvious, isn't it? Because he thought
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he'd keep getting away with it, as he did back then, as he has for the past 10 years of public
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life, the past 18 years since that one at the Point Gray School. Why on earth would he bring it up
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when the rest of the media didn't bring it up? And it took an American to bring it up. Are you nuts?
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Do you think Trudeau ever takes responsibility other than using those words when he's caught with
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How are you going to explain this to your children?
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I'm going to have a conversation with them tomorrow morning before they go to school
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about taking responsibility for mistakes you make, about living up every day to try and be a better
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person and recognizing that when you make mistakes, you have to take responsibility for it. You have to
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own up for it. You have to own up for it. Is that what he's doing? Is that what he did? Keeping it
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hidden for years, only grudgingly acknowledging it after pictures prove it? Last question.
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You've mentioned the incident in high school, and we just found out about the photo tonight.
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Do you want to tell Canadians about any other instances where you were concerned that you were
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racist or that you had black face of rap? I think it's been plenty. The fact of the matter is that
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I've always, and you'll know this, been more enthusiastic about costumes than is sometimes
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appropriate. But these are the situations that I regret deeply.
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So he said he'd take responsibility just minutes ago. But he's already sort of tired of that? I mean,
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come on, guys. It's not really racism. He's not that bad a man. You see, what really,
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what does he have to apologize for other than he really likes costumes, guys? That's all that's
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going on here. He likes costumes. And when he said, like, five minutes ago, he was racist. Well,
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So how many times did he confirm it was just the two instances?
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When he was a 29-year-old teacher, when he was dressed as Aladdin, and that time he was in school
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with the wig? Several times he said, twice, twice, twice. It's all out there now. He's feeling better
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about his conscience. He's taken responsibility. He's owned up for it. And then, bam! Holy cow,
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another incident with video. This one published by Global News. So it's not when he was a high school
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teenager. It's not when he was a 29-year-old teacher. This video, it's somewhere in between,
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it seems, and it's a video. Oh, I thought he said it was just one mistake or just the two mistakes.
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But then again, he did say this. Do you want to tell Canadians about any other instances where you
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were concerned that you were racist or that you had blackface around you? I think, uh, I think it's,
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it's been plenty. Plenty? Okay, so he confessed to two, like about five times he said that, but then
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right after that third came out, the video, and all of this proof was before the era of ubiquitous
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smartphones where everyone has a camera in their pockets. Imagine how rare it was for someone to
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actually have a camera on them, let alone a video camera 10, 20, 30 years ago, and yet he was caught
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three times. Imagine how often he did that to be captured three times. I mean, look, once,
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there's a lapse of judgment. He didn't know he was in high school twice. Okay, maybe he got a bit
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of a moral blind spot, but three times. And you heard him, he said plenty, plenty more. I think
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we have ourselves. Well, I'm not sure if I'd say a racist, though he, he said so. But like he is with
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women, he's a fake feminist. He uses feminist rhetoric in virtue signaling to hide the fact that he
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actually is deeply sexist and a bit of a groper to boot. I think he's that way about race, too. He
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talks a good game about diversity, but as you know, his inner circle is as wide as a polar bear. He
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he mocks minorities, we know that, like he mocks aboriginals in particular, we know that.
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Thank you. Thank you for being here. Thank you very much for your donation tonight. I really
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appreciate the donation to the Liberal Party of Canada. Those were the Grassy Narrows protesters.
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But I think far worse was actually that night of the boxing match against Patrick Brazeau.
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He said this. He said this. Do you remember this?
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You know, we're both known for our long hair on the hill. Let's, let's say the loser gets a haircut.
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He resisted back a little bit, you know, pointing out that hair has a cultural significance for First
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Nations peoples. And I said, I know, that's why I proposed it. When a warrior cuts his hair,
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it's a sign of shame. So it's a, it's very apropos.
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Hmm. He's got a problem, a blind spot, don't you think? That black face, hand on breast picture was
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bad. But in some ways, this one in, I think in some ways, this is worse. He's with two men who
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truly appear to be Sikh, and he's just staring them down. They might be thinking, who's this asshole? But
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he's having a staring contest with them. He's not going to blink. He's not going to confess
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that what he's doing is mocking them, diminishing them. He's going to go right after this two Sikh
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guys in the whole place and physically touch them and dominate them and stare them down, just like
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he does to women he dominates. He'll force them to make a scene or comply. That's the choice he
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gives every woman he gropes in public. Comply, or you'll be some overreacting, hysterical woman.
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Comply, or you'll be some overreacting minority. Now, I think wearing blackface means,
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does it really mean that someone should resign from public office?
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Look, I don't make the rules, do I? Trudeau does. The media party does. We have seen many,
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many resignations for less, even in the past week. I'm not sure how I'd feel if I were black. Blackface
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isn't just a costume. It has greater political, cultural meaning, mainly in the context of
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U.S. slavery. But it's pretty universally regarded as racist, more even than wearing a turban
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when you're not Sikh. Let me help you through this. What if it had been Stephen Harper
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caught doing this? Not once, not twice, but three times. And he had hidden it for years.
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And then when he was caught, he only confessed to two, thinking he'd get away with that. And then
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a third one immediately came out, proving the confession and contrition to be a lie, too.
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What would it have done to Harper or Trump? How would it go down for a foreign meeting
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between Trudeau and an African or Arabian or South Asian world leader? This is like Trudeau
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in feminism. He's blown himself up. And in a way, Canada, too. Look, I'm not sure if blackface
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should disqualify a man from public office. I think we have too much of this cancel culture,
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this deplatforming culture. But I think lying about it is actually disqualifying for a world
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leader. Not just the lie about how many times he did this, and Lord knows what else he's
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done. But the entire lie of his public beliefs that are clearly just a sociopath's deception
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to project his own sins onto his enemies and to preempt any accusations against himself.
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That's what I think. Stay with us for more on this with Lorne Gunter.
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Welcome back. Well, you know, people sometimes like to dress up in costumes, especially people
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who don't really have a very strong personal identity. Justin Trudeau is famous for dressing
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up as almost anyone but himself. I think maybe it's because he's not sure of who he is. A lot of
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his costumes are ridiculous, but he never misses an opportunity to play dress up. It's odd for a
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grown man to do that. I mean, kids love dress up parties. Most of the time, it's harmless. It's just,
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you know, sometimes it's a little over the top, like when he went to India and turned it into an eight
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day regalia. I think a lot of Indians thought it was a bit weird. But when you dress in black face,
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that's not just a costume. You're not just pretending to be black. You can wear an Indian
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headdress and fringed leather garments and pretend to play cowboys and Indians. That's not inherently
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offensive, dressing up as an Aboriginal Indian, dressing up in a traditional Jewish outfit. If I'm Jewish,
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if I saw someone dressing up as an Orthodox Jew, I wouldn't find that inherently offensive. And I certainly
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wouldn't complain about cultural appropriation. But there is something specific to wearing black face. And it
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is tied to the place of blacks in America, their place under slavery, and then the Jim Crow laws
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thereafter, and the submissive subordinate position of blacks in the minstrel shows. When a white man
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blackens his face, it is part of the submission of black people. Now, we Canadians don't know that much
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about that. But Justin Trudeau would have known, if not when he was in high school, surely by the time he
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was a 29-year-old teacher in the year 2001. I'm not upset about Justin Trudeau because he was playing
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dress-up. I'm not even upset about him because he was offensive. He offends me in many ways. I'm upset
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by him because he is a liar who has gotten away with his lies about who he is. And worse, he has smeared
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everyone else as the racist for a decade when it was him all along. And joining us now to talk about
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this is our friend Lauren Gunter, who joins us now from Edmonton. Lauren, great to see you again.
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Don't mind me with that opening rant. There is something about blackface that's different than
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dressing up as like a cowboy or dressing up even as an Indian.
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Yeah. Yeah, for sure there is. And, you know, and you could say that in 2001, we weren't as
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culturally sensitive to how offensive it was. And he, but, you know, he likes to portray himself as
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this new enlightened species, so much better than the rest of us, so much more attuned to the nuances
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of subtle prejudices of, you know, homophobia and the patriarchy and racism that surely he would have
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known. I mean, you and I, had we been asked in 2001, would have said it was inappropriate. Whether
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we would have found it, you know, overtly racist or whatever, I don't know. I can't say how I would
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have answered in 2001, but I would have known it was the wrong thing to do. And so he should have
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known too, because he sets himself, he portrays himself as being that much more enlightened than
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all the rest of us. And that, among other things, is what bothers me the most. I mean, it bothers me
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that he will not hold himself to the same standard that he holds others. He had two, he had two members
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of his caucus early on in his government who were accused, not convicted, but accused of sexual
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harassment of females in parliament. And he didn't wait for an investigation. He just punted them.
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You know, we have way more evidence here of him engaging in racist activity, because it's not just,
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of course, the, the, the Aladdin costume at, at an Arabian Nights at the, the West Point, West
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Gray Academy in, in West Point Gray Academy in Vancouver. It is him as Harry Belafonte in high
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school. And I think the most troubling one is the one that, that Global News came across of him in
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blackface and an Afro wig, uh, acting ape-like. Yeah. Uh, and I think that one is, is the most
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racist. It's not all, I mean, not all of that's really bad in it. And I think it would have destroyed,
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uh, a conservative policy. Can you imagine the liberals letting, uh, Stephen Harper off the hook
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even now? Like Harper's been out for four years. If they found similar video or photographs of Harper,
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this, this would be all, if they found this about Doug Ford, they would, if, if, if they found photos
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of Donald Trump dressed like this, they would still try and use it against Andrew Scheer. I mean,
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that, that's how, how they, that that's their standard. So they need to be held accountable
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by the same standard. And, and Trudeau's standard is even higher. So he needs to be held accountable
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by that too. But you know what, there's, there's another troubling aspect to this. And that is,
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you know, I, the, the, the costume tour of India, I think, uh, coupled with this Arabian
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Knights costume that he had in 2001 shows that he hasn't really evolved all that much.
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Yeah. Oh, he still thinks cultural appropriation is fine. And, and I think there's an awful lot
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of overreaction to cultural appropriation that, that goes way beyond the pale. But you know,
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if you start setting yourself up as the final arbiter of morality and sensitivity and inclusiveness
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in the country, and he has, then you get to be judged by that. And, and, and I think he failed.
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Yeah. You know, um, I'm three months younger than Justin Trudeau. So I can sort of think,
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well, where was I, what was I doing in 2001? The last costume party, and this is a little personal
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story, forgive me. The last costume party I ever attended that I can remember was in my final year
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of law school, which would have been 1996. So I would have been 24. So that was five years earlier
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than his big black face, uh, Aladdin thing. I remember that costume party, someone dressed up as
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me, which I thought was very funny. There wasn't a black face in the room. There was no, in 1996,
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political, it wasn't political correctness. It was okay. Let's just be a little careful now. We're
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being inclusive now. And, you know, it was very sensitive, even in Alberta in 1996, aboriginal
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people. So there are a thousand costumes that are funny. You can be an alien, you can be Robin Hood,
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you can be whatever. In 1996, the thought that someone would have come in with a black face costume,
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they, the whole place would have been, what are you doing? And that was five years. And this was in
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redneck Alberta. I love it. In 96, don't tell me that five years later in fancy Vancouver, which was
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much more multiracial anyways, by then, don't tell me it was acceptable five years later in multiracial
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fancy pants Vancouver. I think to me, and I mentioned this in my monologue, Trudeau's move is
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that he dares you to object because he'll be so confident. He'll be so cool and he'll act like it's
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normal. He does this with women when he gropes them. Exactly. And that's another thing I want to
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get into on this, this photo from the Arabian Nights fundraiser. If you look at it, he is immediately
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up behind this woman at the fundraiser. He has one hand on her way, his left hand on her way. She has
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his right hand over her shoulder and his hand is splayed across her sternum. Yeah. And I mentioned
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this online in a column that's active right now. And of course, a couple of people, even including
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some of my editors said, hey, do you really want to go there? I mean, that seems like a little bit
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to go a little bit too far. This photo is taken only months after the kokanee grope. Yeah.
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So he's handsy with women. Yeah. And is he handsy with women because he has a famous name and he's
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good looking? And more importantly, and I think this gets to the point you're you're talking about
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that because he is who he is. He thinks the rules that apply to everyone else don't apply to him.
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Well, he can get away with behavior that you and I would never get away with because he is who he is.
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Well, let's put that picture up again because I immediately noticed his right hand because he
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painted it black. That's on her chest. But look at the put up the full length shot. That is gross
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enough. Look at the left hand. I didn't even notice that his left hand is on her waist and she's sort
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of pushing it down or something. Look at her left elbow in that. Now, it's very easy for us to
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overanalyze this photo. We don't know the circumstances. No one's talked to the woman
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and she might just have, you know, been, oh, and not really been all that offended. But it looks like
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her elbow is pushing him back. She doesn't look very comfortable. Again, you know, you and I have both
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had really bad photos taken that were not indicative of our mood at the time. But because
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of the angle, the light, the whatever, it just makes us look bad. I'm not going to try and say
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this is proof. But you have to put this in context of what else he had been doing at that time. And
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he went to a music festival in the interior of BC only a few months before this. And as we now know,
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groped a female reporter inappropriately without her consent. And I just think that this is sort of his
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playboy. The rules don't apply to me. I'm a Trudeau. I've got money attitude.
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And it's one more layer than that. He does it in public on purpose. He does it in photos. He does it
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with the cameras rolling on purpose. That emphasizes, magnifies his dare. Because when he
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grabs a woman without her permission, like he grabbed the 19-year-old sports hero, Bianca,
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on stage, it happens so quickly. If it were in a private room, those women would surely recoil.
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If they were in a private room with their fathers or brothers, they would surely recoil
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and say, get rid of this creep. But when he does it, when a camera is on in a public moment,
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that's why he does it every time there's a cabinet swearing in. That's why he did it to
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the governor general, putting his hand on her ass. He does it in a place where he's daring them. He's
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saying, I'm doing something that's so edgy, but I'm doing it with a perfectly calm. And if you want to
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make a scene on your big day, you go ahead and make a scene on your big day, and you see how that
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works out for you, little lady. I'm a Trudeau. And I'm pulling off this blackface, and I got my hand
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on your chest and on your waist. And if you want to make a scene about it, you go ahead. And in my
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view, the picture of him with the two Sikh fellas is the same sort of thing. He's saying, I'm so brazen.
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I'm going to make fun of you. And I'm going to, you're just a costume. You're just a dress up for
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me. And if you feel uncomfortable, well, make a scene. I have a slightly different take on the one
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where he has his arms around the two Sikh guys. And that is that he's trying to prove that he's cool.
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He's with them. He understands. He's prepared to wear their garb to show some mutuality with them or
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whatever. But either way, it's dumb. Yeah. Well, to me, I don't, to me personally,
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I'm not sure if photos like these are disqualifying. Of course, I don't set the
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rules of the game. For every other political character, they would be disqualifying. But
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what irks me the most is his brazen lie on the airplane last night saying, oh, no, it's just those
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two, I swear, which was immediately proof false. And the fact that his whole career has been
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projecting onto others that which he himself has been doing. He pretends he's the ultra feminist.
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No, no, no. That was just projecting and preempting his own misogyny and gropiness.
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He pretends that he says that everyone else is racist, neo-Nazi, whatever. He's a guy in full-blown,
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full-blown blackface. Right. I'd forgotten that they tried to tag
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Scheer as a neo-Nazi after the Yellow Vest tour. You know, there's so many of these. Like you,
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when I started to think of them this morning, all of the different things where he has said one thing
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and done something entirely different. You know, I'm going to be the most ethical prime minister yet.
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He's the first one to have been found in violation of the ethics law, not once, but twice.
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Yeah. You know, I went to the Aga Khan's Island because he's a close personal friend.
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Yeah. He hadn't talked to him except once in 30 years. There's on, it just goes on and on and on.
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And I don't know at what point someone who's thinking of voting liberal just gets fed up and
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throws their hands up because the rest of us are already fed up. Yeah. I think, you know,
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again, that McLean's magazine cover where Paul Wells in a diary style says the imposter. It's
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about Paul Wells realizing he's been tricked. Paul Wells, I don't think, well, he might vote
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Andrew Scheer. I doubt it. I think he'll probably vote green. I think you're going to see in the next
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round of polls, a lot of green numbers. And I think Jagmeet Singh has actually handled himself
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well because it hasn't been a tricky policy question. It hasn't been a logic or a,
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you know, real life question. It's been a personal emotional reaction. And I think his reaction when
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he said he doesn't know if he's going to shake Trudeau's hands in the election debate, I think
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that's an honest, genuine reaction. And it's probably the most authentic thing that Jagmeet Singh
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has ever said, how this actually does hurt him a bit. And I don't think he's faking it. Is he
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hamming it up? Maybe a little, but I found it credible. I thought it was actually Jagmeet Singh's
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best moment. He gets into the new politically correct, sensitive language about how people
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are going to see this and be hurt. And a lot of people are going to have bad memories, flood
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back from their youth and like, yeah, I don't know whether that's the case or not. But this
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does show an incredible lack of character on Trudeau's part and a habit, a serial behavior
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of misleading people. And I think he misleads himself. I mean, we have to remember that at
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his core, he is nothing but a motivational speaker. Yeah. And I've watched some of his
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motivational speech. We used to have the same speaking agent, if you can believe it. And
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I watched a video of one of his speeches. He speaks in a way that each sentence doesn't
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quite end. And it throws to the next clause. And you're waiting for the point of it. And
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it never quite. And minutes go by and you're thinking, did he say anything or did he just
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sort of make eye contact and touch his heart? Most of the speeches he gave were to public
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sector conventions. Yeah. And basically white collar, pink collar women who had the hots for
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the memory of his father. That's exactly what it was. Not only that, I mean, it's certainly
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you can't get away from that. But but not only that, it was this at a time when maybe provincial
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and federal governments were trying to keep expenses under control or even cut expenses
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a bit. He was going around talking to public sector workers about how hard they work, how
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essential they are, why they're the fabric of the country. You know, most of those speeches
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could have been written by Hallmark. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. I want to leave
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you with one last thing. It's been 20 years since I've seen the film. But have you ever
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watched that movie called American Psycho? It's a very strange movie. And I don't even
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and I'd have to watch it again to remember. But it's basically let me go a little bit more
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highbrow. There's a very short book and I bought dozen about a dozen copies of it. I
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hand it out to people. I'm going to swear here. The book is called On Bullshit. And
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it's a scientific scholarly and that what does it mean? And he goes through the different
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kinds of bullshit. And it's basically faking your way through things. And one of the kinds
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of bullshit can actually be true. You just don't even know it. You're just blustering.
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You're brazening it. It's confidence with nothing underneath. It's the grift. It's the huckster.
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It's someone who ain't got nothing but you know fake it till you make it. And it's
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I think there's a combination of American Psycho and this very it's a tiny little book on bullshit.
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I really recommend it. And Trudeau is a little bit like that. He there's nothing there's no there
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there. He's a little bit sociopathic in that whatever his flaws are he'll immediately project
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onto you. I think he's a pickup artist at heart. And like you say he's always been immune.
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I think you're right. Yeah. And he's always been immune to consequences.
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I am just waiting though for the response the official response the official act of contrition
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in this one where we're all sent as a nation to sensitivity training because he has been
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insensitive. And so that must be a sign of a greater insensitive culture that we are in.
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Wait for it. There will be in some ways this manifestation of a national orgy of sensitivity
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Oh yeah. Well he's already said on the plane that we have to have these important conversations.
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Yeah buddy I didn't wear blackface and I didn't grope some gal. We don't need a conversation.
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And you've he takes himself out as an as the person who did the wrong and he tries to set
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himself up outside and above it and say oh yes mistakes were made and we certainly need
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to do better. And look at the kokanee grope. Look at the kokanee grope. He grabs a woman
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in a sexually harassing way and then says yes you know men and women sometimes see the same
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events differently. Yeah. There's no difference in this. Yeah. Yeah. But he tries always to get
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beyond what he's done to this perch view where he's analyzing it for all. Yeah. I don't need
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this analysis. Yeah. You know today I saw Katie Simpson of the CBC asking Andrew Scheer questions.
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She was grilling him question after question. When did you know? How long did you have the tape?
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I mean the CBC is in full damage control mode for their man. They're sticking by their guy. Boy
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are they're the last. They will be the ultimate last ones there. Absolutely purely loyal. It's
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incredible to watch. Yeah. Well actually you know I would bet you money that the Toronto Star is
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actually the last ones there. There are at least a few voices at the CBC who've been pretty hard on
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them today. Yeah. But you're right. I mean just in general they're now going to put a plague on all
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their houses. That's the way they're going to deal with this. It's going to say it's not just
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Justin. Dear Justin is not just the one. But the Toronto Star was at least playing it
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even-handed today. And that shows you how hard it is for them because they're never even-handed.
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It used to be known when I worked in Ottawa we used to call them the Trudeau Star. And David Frum once
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said that the day the writs are issued the editorial board of the Toronto Star turns over the front page
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to the Liberal War Room. Yeah. And that's true. And even they had to be quite clinical about it this
00:48:47.700
morning. Well I'm going to politely disagree with you here. Look at this picture of the front pages of
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the Toronto Sun, the National Post, the Globe and Mail, and all four papers, the Star of the Sun,
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the Globe and the Post. The most interesting picture of a Canadian Prime Minister since Kim
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Campbell Post shirtless. And three papers put the most interesting picture in a generation on the
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front page, the blackface. The Toronto Star had Trudeau in a suit and tie in the plane looking very
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contrite. That's what they thought was a more interesting and more representative picture of
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the events. Trudeau in Contritional. And they'll give you some sort of excuse. Like they gave excuses
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when they wouldn't run the Danish cartoons that you so bravely did run in your publication.
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And that is, well, it's an offensive image and we didn't want to offend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Whatever. Yeah. Well listen, Lorne, it's great to talk to you. These are very interesting times.
00:49:50.000
This is of the same momentousness as the Judy Wilson, Judy Wilson, Raybould, SNC-Lavalin.
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But it's so much easier to understand. And I saw some measurement that this was the number one
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trending story in the world last night. And I just think it's going to change the election course.
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I was betting on a Trudeau win until last night. I still think I'd call him the favorite,
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but he's not getting a majority. And I think you're going to see the Greens and the NDP get a
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five-point bump. And we got ourselves a horse race now. Yeah, yeah. I think so too. I'm exactly
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there with you. I won't say that they're going to lose yet, but they have had a majority taken away.
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Yeah. Great to see you. Thanks for giving us so much time, my friend.
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You bet. All right. There you have it. Our friend Lorne Gunter, senior columnist
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for the Edmonton Sun. By the way, if you want to see what we're up to during this campaign,
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I invite you to visit campaign2019.com. You'll see all our shenanigans from our billboards
00:50:59.060
to our lawn signs to my best-selling book, The Libranos. Stay with us for more.
00:51:12.460
Well, this story just gets crazier, and I know it will continue to get crazy. I saw
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some news on Twitter. I mean, let's call it gossip for now, that liberal strategists are bracing
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for many more pictures and videos of blackface. I think this is like a fetish for him. I mean,
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we know he likes to dress up in costumes. And there are, I mean, if someone, I said this before,
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if someone dressed up as an Orthodox Jew, I wouldn't find that offensive at all. I'd find it funny and
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maybe give them some tips on how to do it. There's nothing inherently offensive. But blackface
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has a certain cultural meaning, a certain domination. It's something that white masters do
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in the absence and in the subordination of black slaves. It has a different meaning to it.
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Trudeau chose that of all the costumes to be his favorite. If it really comes out more,
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I think we're in a mess because what would the liberals do? They're not going to change their
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leader in the middle of a campaign. Who would they change it to? There's no heir apparent in that
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party. It's Justin Trudeau and the 337 dwarves. I don't know what they can do. I think they're going
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to bleed a lot of support, not necessarily to Andrew Scheer, though he'll pick up son. I think he's
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going to bleed support to the Greens and the NDP. What a strange time we're in. Well, my friends,
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I want to tell you a couple of things we're up to. As you know, we launched our own campaign,
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not a partisan campaign, but a journalistic campaign. We have a few parts. I'd like to
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invite you to go to Campaign 2019 to see what you can do. You can get our new book, The Libranos.
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That book hit number two on the Amazon bestseller list. You can sign up for a Libranos lawn sign for
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the front of your house. That is fun. Good way to meet your neighbors. And if you have a liberal
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complaining, you could say, what are you talking about? I got a lawn sign of Justin Trudeau on my
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front lawn. You got something against that? If you go to Campaign 2019, you can see other ways you
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can help us. And I want to tell you that just today, we started a petition called Trudeau
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Must Resign.com. What do you think? Look, I'm not one for deplatforming. And I honestly don't think
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that right now the three cases of blackface should cause a man to quit as prime minister. I think a
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more honorable man would quit. But I don't know if that's enough to detonate the leader of a G7
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country. But listen, if there's 20 more of these, I think he's just untenable. He's wrecked things too
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much. He's too much of a liar. And how do you do any foreign affairs with that? But I think it's
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the lying and the falsity of his entire ideology. He's a fake feminist. He's fakely into diversity.
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That's why I would sign a petition called Trudeau Must Resign. Not because I'm becoming a politically
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correct snowflake myself, but because we just can't have that kind of a pathological liar
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as our prime minister. What do you think? If you agree with me, go to TrudeauMustResign.com.
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All right, that's our show for today. Until tomorrow, when I'm sure this story will continue
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from all of us at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home. Good night and keep fighting for freedom.