Rebel News Podcast - Justin Trudeau’s friends say he's at his best when he’s facing adversity. Is that really true？

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00:01:00.600 All right. Without further to do, let me play for you today's episode, which is about Justin Trudeau, the serial groper, the handsy close hugger, the sexual harasser who was finally told no by a woman and he didn't know what to do about it.

00:01:21.800 Here, take a listen.

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00:01:26.980 Tonight, Justin Trudeau's most loyal friend says he does his best when he's facing adversity.

00:01:32.680 But is that really true?

00:01:34.200 It's March 1st, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:36.520 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:42.340 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:46.420 The only thing I have to say to the government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:52.280 What a week.

00:01:59.040 Jody Wilson-Raybould, the most principled politician in a generation, willing to go nose-to-nose with the prime minister, her boss, and not back down, not be moved.

00:02:09.800 Not be moved after 10 meetings and 10 phone calls trying to move her.

00:02:14.360 For a period of approximately four months between September and December of 2018, I experienced a consistent and sustained effort by many people within the government to seek to politically interfere in the exercise of prosecutorial discretion in my role as the Attorney General of Canada in an inappropriate effort to secure a deferred prosecution agreement with SNC-Lavalin.

00:02:40.740 These events involved 11 people, excluding myself and my political staff, from the prime minister's office, the privy council office, and the office of the minister of finance.

00:02:53.440 This included in-person conversations, telephone calls, emails, and text messages.

00:02:58.560 There were approximately 10 phone calls and 10 meetings specifically about SNC, and I and or my staff were a part of these meetings.

00:03:06.820 You know, Justin Trudeau has this move, it's a personal domination move, it's a pickup artist move, it's a personal space invasion move.

00:03:17.340 He does it to all the women around him who are subservient to him.

00:03:22.600 All of these photos, all of them are inappropriate.

00:03:26.820 This is the key moment when he inducts these women into his cabinet. 0.99

00:03:30.140 Well, he doesn't do the induction, the Governor General does, but Trudeau imprints upon these women that they're his.

00:03:37.300 They belong to him now, they're in cabinet only by virtue of him, by his largesse, by his patronage.

00:03:41.980 And he doesn't do so with a handshake.

00:03:44.000 That's what one typically does, professional to professional, people of high achievement and high office.

00:03:48.840 He does so with a close hug, a personal space violating hug.

00:03:53.080 Sometimes it's a full body hug, chest pressed up against chest, hip pressed up against hip hug, hands fully embraced around the other's back kind of hug.

00:04:03.960 Give me one more moment on these utterly appalling hugs.

00:04:06.740 Just for a moment, there's a lesson here.

00:04:08.000 You try hugging someone like that at your work.

00:04:10.840 You work at a bank, you work at a law firm, you work in some corporate office.

00:04:13.760 Remember, this isn't young colleagues, you know, having some banter.

00:04:17.520 This isn't some 20-year-old college kids working together as waiters and waitresses in a bar, casual, fun, everyone's young and single, equal in power, casual.

00:04:27.240 This is the Prime Minister, a married man himself, almost 50 years old, appointing women of achievement.

00:04:34.980 Well, okay, let's be honest.

00:04:36.360 Most of his cabinet have very few achievements other than being women, he said as much himself.

00:04:41.500 But at least in the case of Jody Wilson-Raybould, she was of high achievement.

00:04:45.520 Now, he's a married man of 50, leader of the country, appointing women of high achievement to a high public office.

00:04:52.060 The Governor General's right there.

00:04:53.680 And he gives them a full body hug, or even just a personal space-invading hug, almost nose-to-nose, almost cheek-to-cheek.

00:05:00.760 In the case of Kirstie Duncan, they're everything-to-everything.

00:05:04.520 Glad they still had their clothes on.

00:05:07.020 What's that all about?

00:05:09.180 That's about domination. 1.00

00:05:10.180 That's about destroying their identities as women of achievement who made it there on their own work and own merit, 1.00

00:05:14.600 and replacing it with an identity that they exist subordinate to him, subject to him, submissive to him.

00:05:19.800 And if he wants, he's going to walk right up to them in front of the entire political court

00:05:23.580 and give them a full body hug if he bloody well chooses.

00:05:26.800 And what are they going to do about it?

00:05:28.280 Pull back? 0.64

00:05:29.460 Push them away?

00:05:30.100 Tell them he's creepy?

00:05:31.380 Stick out their hand to shake his hand instead?

00:05:33.640 If he were to give them a full body hug in private, now that would be bizarre,

00:05:39.300 but it might actually yield a complaint, a reaction, a revulsion, a pushing away.

00:05:43.400 But for him to do so in public is actually even more shocking because then it's a dare.

00:05:47.960 I dare you to object.

00:05:50.580 In the key moment of their lives, the highlight of their public life at least, no doubt,

00:05:55.220 he's letting them know and letting their families know and letting their friends know

00:05:58.760 and letting everyone else in the room know that it's only by his good graces

00:06:02.060 and that like the mythical medieval princes, he has droit de seigneur.

00:06:07.520 He has the right to bed.

00:06:09.320 Any woman in the kingdom, simply by virtue of being the prince. 0.97

00:06:12.080 Would you, as a married man, hug a married woman like that at the workplace? 0.99

00:06:16.900 It's outrageous, but that's how he lets the world know.

00:06:19.520 I'm the boss here and I own you and you are here at my whim.

00:06:23.560 One more picture on this point.

00:06:25.920 Look at this.

00:06:27.420 This is a moment where Trudeau told Jolie Wilson-Raybould that she would be in cabinet.

00:06:31.140 He's leaning way across the table.

00:06:33.880 And look, he's touching her hand like he's proposing marriage to her or something.

00:06:40.540 And look at the difference in body language.

00:06:42.320 She's genuinely moved and touched and reaches for her own heart.

00:06:47.360 This is a moment that resonates with her and her family.

00:06:49.740 Going back centuries, they'd be an aboriginal activist in that family for half a century.

00:06:54.560 But watch this for a moment.

00:06:56.180 Jolie Wilson-Raybould's father, an aboriginal leader, bantering with Pierre Trudeau decades ago.

00:07:02.080 Listen to what he says about his own daughter.

00:07:04.580 I have two children in Vancouver Island, both of whom, for some misguided reason,

00:07:14.140 say they want to be a lawyer.

00:07:15.740 Both of whom, Mr. Prime Minister, are women.

00:07:28.780 It was lighthearted banter, but it was true. 1.00

00:07:34.160 His girls grew up to be great. 0.71

00:07:35.720 I don't agree with all their politics.

00:07:37.660 That's not the point here.

00:07:38.420 The point here is they are the vehicles of the honor of their entire family going back generations.

00:07:43.020 First person in their family to go to college.

00:07:44.380 First person to be a lawyer.

00:07:45.300 First person to be a prosecutor.

00:07:46.720 First person to be a member of parliament.

00:07:47.920 First person in the family to be a cabinet minister.

00:07:49.860 The pride, the duty, the generations.

00:07:51.200 That's what Jolie Wilson-Raybould was thinking when Trudeau proposed that she would join cabinet.

00:07:58.860 But he, he was posing for his photographer, who was right there.

00:08:03.320 And look in the background.

00:08:04.220 Gerald Butts and Katie Telford there, too, approvingly.

00:08:07.380 The great white giver, lifting up the aboriginal woman. 0.93

00:08:11.280 Like Rudyard Kipling said, take up the white man's burden.

00:08:14.220 So the liberals, for them, this wasn't about Jolie Wilson-Raybould.

00:08:17.480 It was about how noble Justin Trudeau is to Jolie Wilson-Raybould.

00:08:22.240 He's such a saint.

00:08:24.680 But I think she is made of sterner stuff than the bimbos who agreed to be in cabinet other than him. 1.00

00:08:30.180 Like Miriam Monsef.

00:08:31.400 Remember her?

00:08:32.420 So you were born in Afghanistan, correct?

00:08:34.400 I believe I was.

00:08:36.920 Yeah.

00:08:38.940 No, you liar.

00:08:40.700 That was a lie.

00:08:41.320 That's the opposite of honorable.

00:08:42.600 She, she, she fraudulently claimed to be from Afghanistan on her refugee application.

00:08:49.240 Or, or this airhead.

00:08:50.680 Climate action makes business sense.

00:08:52.660 Business sense.

00:08:53.620 Business sense.

00:08:54.660 Business sense.

00:08:57.200 That's not a speech impediment.

00:08:58.640 That is not an accent.

00:08:59.660 That's an affectation.

00:09:00.840 It's called vocal fry.

00:09:02.380 It's trying to sound like a Kardashian.

00:09:04.340 It's a thing.

00:09:05.900 Yeah, Jolie Wilson-Raybould had a bit of a different path in life. 1.00

00:09:08.660 So the clothes-hugging, body-rubbing, sexual inappropriateness that Justin Trudeau has used

00:09:14.280 his entire life, including in his personal life, including back in Crest in British Columbia

00:09:19.480 on August 4th, 2000, when Trudeau sexually assaulted a young reporter named Rose Knight

00:09:24.820 because he didn't realize that she was important.

00:09:28.040 He always does that because Trudeaus always do that.

00:09:31.520 That's how they operate with women. 1.00

00:09:33.280 Here's the Milwaukee Sentinel where Trudeau's mom, Margaret, describes how Pierre Trudeau treated her.

00:09:38.260 Let me read a bit.

00:09:40.580 I mean, Pierre and Margaret Trudeau, they each cheated on each other.

00:09:44.180 But Pierre beat Margaret so badly she had black eyes.

00:09:47.040 She said she liked it.

00:09:48.220 It proved he cared about her.

00:09:49.600 Let me read a little bit from the Milwaukee Sentinel.

00:09:52.380 Pierre slugged me, she said the next morning.

00:09:55.300 He's given me a black eye.

00:09:56.900 But things are going to be okay.

00:09:58.000 He doesn't mind my being a photographer.

00:09:59.720 Actually, I was quite pleased.

00:10:00.900 It was the first time in a very long time, wow, that I'd been able to get a response from Pierre.

00:10:05.020 He got all his hostility out and he hasn't shown me so much attention in years.

00:10:09.100 It showed he really loved me, she said contentedly.

00:10:12.700 In a strange way, it's made us closer.

00:10:14.460 I guess I felt this was his way of showing he cared.

00:10:17.240 Pierre must have felt closer to me because that night he was very macho.

00:10:21.320 That's the house Justin Trudeau grew up in.

00:10:27.020 That's what he learned to take as normal in a family.

00:10:30.800 Beating women, treating them as dirt, treating them as interchangeable, swappable property. 0.92

00:10:35.540 That's why, for example, Justin Trudeau walked right up to a bride on her wedding day

00:10:39.600 and walked right up to her and kissed her.

00:10:43.740 Her husband standing there, Trudeau came in to take what was his.

00:10:46.900 He's the prime minister.

00:10:47.960 He can do it.

00:10:48.760 And like the female cabinet minister being sworn in, what, were they going to make a fuss about it?

00:10:54.480 Push away the prime minister?

00:10:55.640 Cause an incident?

00:10:57.560 He'll pose with teenage girls topless because he loves it.

00:11:02.880 Because he has no problem treating women as pieces of meat.

00:11:06.740 So he's fine when they treat themselves that way.

00:11:09.460 Imagine posing for that photo or this.

00:11:12.780 Trudeau loves this stuff.

00:11:14.720 I'm not sure that his wife, Sophie Trudeau, loves it so much.

00:11:17.700 Then again, I haven't seen her in public with him in quite a long time.

00:11:21.060 Have you?

00:11:22.380 Here's Trudeau on the campaign trail the other day with his kid.

00:11:28.200 With his kid.

00:11:30.720 Not his wife. 0.93

00:11:31.640 Where's Sophie? 0.86

00:11:32.860 Where's Sophie? 0.86

00:11:34.940 You know, Melania Trump was out of the public eye for a few weeks recovering from surgery. 0.99

00:11:39.940 Surgery.

00:11:40.420 She was in the hospital.

00:11:41.200 There was a story a day implying a divorce was imminent.

00:11:45.840 Melania Trump is fleeing from the Donald. 0.96

00:11:48.800 No, she was in the hospital.

00:11:50.100 But Sophie Trudeau goes months without a public sighting.

00:11:53.220 She's seen in public without her wedding ring.

00:11:55.120 But, shh, we don't talk about that.

00:11:58.120 Look, people, it's not being lascivious to notice Trudeau's bizarre conduct with women.

00:12:03.840 He's the lascivious one.

00:12:04.900 And I say again, you hug a woman, especially a subordinate, like he does in any private sector office, you're fired.

00:12:11.220 Who does that?

00:12:12.960 I'm not gross to point it out.

00:12:14.960 I'd be complicit if I didn't point it out.

00:12:17.720 Why the hell aren't we pointing it out?

00:12:19.300 It's so creepy.

00:12:20.040 And I say all of this, this lengthy preamble, because Justin Trudeau has his way with women, whether it's groping them in Creston, B.C., giving them full body hugs at the Governor General swearing in, or if it's asking them to turn a blind eye to his ethics.

00:12:34.900 He just tells women what to do and doesn't accept no for an answer until Jody Wilson-Raybould came along.

00:12:41.260 At that point, the Prime Minister jumped in, stressing that there is an election in Quebec, and that, quote, I am an MP in Quebec, the member for Papineau, end quote.

00:12:53.960 I was quite taken aback.

00:12:56.120 My response, and I vividly remember this as well, was to ask the Prime Minister a direct question while looking him in the eye.

00:13:03.180 I asked, quote, are you politically interfering with my role, my decision as the Attorney General?

00:13:11.260 I would strongly advise against it, end quote.

00:13:14.480 She literally stared Trudeau down and his whole team. 0.98

00:13:18.080 No one has ever done that before.

00:13:19.320 No one's ever stood up to Trudeau before, let alone a subordinate to Trudeau standing up to him before, let alone a woman standing up to Trudeau before, let alone a woman he tried to grope, hug, to condition, to accepting his dominance like some cheap pickup artist at a bar at 2 a.m.

00:13:37.180 That's why this is a disaster for Trudeau, because it rings true.

00:13:40.140 The same Trudeau who didn't take no for an answer from Rose Knight in Creston, didn't take no for an answer 10 times, 20 times from Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:13:50.340 That's why this hurts Trudeau, because Jody Wilson-Raybould's testimony was utterly credible.

00:13:55.120 Her details were meticulously noted.

00:13:57.880 Trudeau's a liar.

00:13:58.600 We know that.

00:13:59.340 The ethics commissioner said as much when the ethics commissioner convicted him of four violations of the law.

00:14:04.420 He fired her. 0.81

00:14:05.120 We know Trudeau doesn't know any files in any detail.

00:14:10.820 Once in a while, Trudeau tries a parlor trick, like remember this one?

00:14:14.480 Normal computers work either there's power going through a wire or not.

00:14:18.220 It's one or a zero.

00:14:19.820 They're binary systems.

00:14:20.940 What quantum states allow for is much more complex information to be encoded into a single bit.

00:14:28.460 Regular computer bit is either a one or a zero, on or off.

00:14:31.960 A quantum state can be much more complex than that, because as we know, things can be both particle and wave at the same times.

00:14:38.400 And the uncertainty around quantum states allows us to encode more information into a much smaller computer.

00:14:45.920 So that's what's exciting about quantum computing.

00:14:50.620 That's Trudeau, the drama teacher, practicing his rehearsed line.

00:14:54.200 He spent three hours that morning memorizing that.

00:14:56.620 He didn't spend three hours actually reading briefing notes.

00:14:59.520 He does that a parlor trick.

00:15:01.400 But most of the time, when he doesn't have time to memorize a line written for him, he sounds a little bit dumber.

00:15:08.520 Like this.

00:15:10.080 A nuclear power like North Korea that has shown a level of irresponsibility and fundamental irresponsibility to not use a word like crazy, which I will not use. 0.90

00:15:38.520 Is of real concern.

00:15:43.260 You know what Trudeau's real thoughts are on quantum computing?

00:15:48.520 Here's how he thinks about time and space when he doesn't have someone giving him a rehearsed line.

00:15:54.400 We have to realize that the way of thinking that got us to this place no longer holds.

00:16:05.260 We have to rethink elements as basic as space and time to go all science fiction-y on you in this sense.

00:16:12.720 At least that's just some dumb line he uses to pick up chicks in a bar. 1.00

00:16:22.460 Sometimes when he talks politics, he sounds like this.

00:16:26.220 Quebecers are better than the rest of Canada because, you know, poor Quebecers. 1.00

00:16:32.400 So where are we now?

00:16:37.560 I'll tell you where we are.

00:16:38.360 We have an utterly credible woman who just detonated an utterly unserious man. 0.96

00:16:47.280 And the icing on the cake, she is a woman of color, aboriginal.

00:16:50.160 She trumps Trudeau on his favorite playing field, identity politics.

00:16:53.780 He's just a privileged white male who inherited a fortune and a name.

00:16:57.240 She earned everything she has the hard way.

00:17:00.320 How can he win?

00:17:01.660 Polls show he's falling behind.

00:17:03.240 It looks bad.

00:17:04.000 It is bad.

00:17:04.980 It's the worst week he's ever had.

00:17:06.840 But look at this from the husband of Katie Telford, Trudeau's crooked chief of staff.

00:17:11.300 This is Rob Silver, a liberal activist, husband of Telford.

00:17:13.940 I actually like Rob as liberals go.

00:17:16.200 But look at this.

00:17:16.960 The palace guard, the inner circle, look at their line.

00:17:20.740 A political observation.

00:17:22.580 There are a lot of people publicly writing PMJT's political obituary today.

00:17:28.020 It's not the first time this has happened.

00:17:29.620 Betting against Justin Trudeau has been a losing bet over his political career.

00:17:33.240 He usually does well when underestimated.

00:17:36.420 Is that true?

00:17:39.360 I agree that it is never wise to underestimate anyone.

00:17:43.940 And maybe the conservative campaign in 2015 did that.

00:17:47.020 I don't know.

00:17:47.500 I think the conservatives lost in 2015 because Stephen Harper had stuck around one election

00:17:52.240 too many because the NDP vote collapsed in Quebec after Thomas Mulcair went full in on

00:17:58.140 supporting burkas.

00:17:58.920 And once those Quebec numbers tanked, they were reflected in the national polls.

00:18:03.780 And the anti-Harper vote, which had been equally split between liberals and NDP, immediately

00:18:08.440 coalesced around the liberals instead of being split fairly evenly.

00:18:11.640 And it was just a done deal in that last week.

00:18:15.060 I think the media was obviously 100% in the tank for Trudeau.

00:18:18.860 I think he also had 100-plus third-party campaign groups helping him.

00:18:22.600 And then despite all this, he only got 39% of the vote.

00:18:26.740 Now, a win's a win, though.

00:18:30.000 But as to Rob Silver's point, never underestimate anyone in politics, including Trudeau.

00:18:34.360 But is it really true that Trudeau does well in times of adversity?

00:18:38.880 That's what's going on now.

00:18:40.320 People aren't underestimating Trudeau right now.

00:18:43.080 They're fighting Trudeau right now.

00:18:45.100 They're resisting him.

00:18:46.120 They're rejecting him.

00:18:48.440 It's not that he's being underestimated now.

00:18:50.320 It's that he's having a tough fight.

00:18:51.700 Maybe the first one ever.

00:18:53.100 So when the going gets tough, do the tough get going.

00:18:55.520 So put aside how other people may feel about him.

00:18:59.100 I think that when you've been prime minister for more than three years and have led the

00:19:02.880 polls for most of that time, I don't think anyone's underestimating you anymore.

00:19:06.800 I don't think that's really happening.

00:19:09.120 Who's underestimating him?

00:19:11.180 It's not a perception problem.

00:19:12.940 Am I overestimating, underestimating?

00:19:14.640 Trudeau really does have a problem.

00:19:16.460 He might even have a criminal problem.

00:19:18.420 It's certainly the biggest battle of his life right now.

00:19:20.820 A credible insider has basically revealed everything.

00:19:24.000 It would be like if the right-hand man, a Tony Soprano, had spilled the beans.

00:19:29.740 It's pretty tough to understate the power of it.

00:19:32.360 Maybe it's Trudeau who's underestimating the problem he's in.

00:19:36.120 Andrew Scheer, Maxime Bernier, Jagmeet Singh, even the Globe and Mail's reporters on this

00:19:40.240 file, they couldn't do the damage to Trudeau that Jody Wilson-Raybould did.

00:19:44.900 Only the ultimate insider could.

00:19:46.980 A cabinet minister.

00:19:47.800 A star candidate, someone who was personally recruited by Gerald Butt, someone who was in

00:19:52.480 the heart of the matters to do with the SNC-Lavalin.

00:19:56.500 This really is like a major mob boss ratting out the capo di tutti capi, except that it's

00:20:02.980 bigger than that because Jody Wilson-Raybould was never a mobster herself, right?

00:20:07.260 She always had clean hands.

00:20:08.900 You could disagree with her on ideas, but she came with clean hands.

00:20:12.280 She was like you and me.

00:20:13.280 She assumed that we had the rule of law in Canada.

00:20:16.040 She assumed that the prime minister conducted himself ethically, even if he was ideological.

00:20:21.160 And unlike all the other Trudeau cabinet ministers, she just refused to go along with it.

00:20:25.980 She alone resisted the charm of the close hugger, the groper.

00:20:30.180 She couldn't care less about his perks and power.

00:20:32.940 So it's an enormous blow.

00:20:35.580 And maybe he himself underestimates it.

00:20:37.780 And today, Trudeau was tweeting about going to the moon at the lunar gateway.

00:20:43.940 Hey, guys, can I tell you about this moon thing?

00:20:46.060 Hey, come on, guys, there's a lunar gateway.

00:20:49.200 Maybe he'll talk about a new pair of socks he has.

00:20:52.640 That's what he always seems to do when he's in trouble before.

00:20:55.260 Doesn't seem to be working this time.

00:20:56.880 And he can't very well call Jody Wilson-Raybould a racist or a Nazi or alt-right, as he usually

00:21:02.060 does with his critics.

00:21:02.880 And, of course, there's the minor problem that Gerald Butts himself is hampered right now.

00:21:08.080 But does Trudeau have the chops?

00:21:11.480 Does he really do well under pressure against the odds?

00:21:14.700 Well, I don't think we know.

00:21:16.500 I think the closest thing he's ever had to a real fight was actually a physical fight

00:21:20.380 against Senator Patrick Brazzo in the blue there, when the two of them boxed for charity.

00:21:26.600 I was actually a tuxedo-clad announcer for that fight, if you can believe it.

00:21:31.460 That was way back in the day, the Sun News Network.

00:21:33.260 But Brazzo looked a lot tougher.

00:21:37.200 And I think people thought he would win.

00:21:38.900 He was heavier.

00:21:40.360 I think he was stronger.

00:21:42.040 But Brazzo really wasn't a boxer.

00:21:44.200 He did some brawling.

00:21:47.060 But Trudeau had actually been a trained boxer his entire life, since he was a kid.

00:21:52.160 He has the stamina.

00:21:53.560 He has the endurance.

00:21:55.920 He has the strategy.

00:21:57.240 I think it was a fair fight.

00:21:58.420 I'm not saying it was easy.

00:21:59.840 I think it was a tough fight.

00:22:00.920 But Trudeau was better than people knew.

00:22:03.060 He certainly took it more seriously.

00:22:04.360 Brazzo was a smoker.

00:22:06.220 When it came to boxing, he was just a dabbler.

00:22:08.400 I'm not saying it was a done deal.

00:22:09.940 I thought Brazzo would win.

00:22:11.740 But I think Trudeau had some secret knowledge.

00:22:13.680 He knew he was a lifelong boxer with lots of cardio.

00:22:17.400 Brazzo was big and strong, but he blew himself out after one round.

00:22:19.880 But the myth was made.

00:22:21.940 Giant killer.

00:22:22.960 It was a great myth.

00:22:23.980 And I myself had a part in making that myth, since I helped hype up the fight.

00:22:27.480 But back in real life, what fights has he actually ever fought?

00:22:32.160 Real fights.

00:22:32.720 I don't mean the play fighting for a charity boxing match.

00:22:35.460 What adversity has he actually ever overcome?

00:22:37.320 Nothing in terms of wealth and privilege.

00:22:40.000 He inherited it all from his father.

00:22:41.880 Who inherited it all from his father?

00:22:43.920 So what adversity did he overcome in life?

00:22:46.800 Maybe you could help me in this one, but I can't think of anything.

00:22:49.000 He didn't hold down a job.

00:22:50.080 He didn't have to.

00:22:51.340 He dabbled, but he didn't stay with the job if it didn't hold his attention.

00:22:54.760 He did snowboarding for a while, but he quit when that got boring.

00:22:58.040 He taught substitute drama classes for a while, but he quit when that got boring.

00:23:01.720 He went to school to get a graduate degree in environmentalism or something,

00:23:05.000 but he quit when that got boring.

00:23:06.780 He didn't finish it.

00:23:08.980 He ran for the liberal leadership race.

00:23:11.200 You know, he's 40, time to grow up and do something.

00:23:13.860 But he ran against a bunch of no-names.

00:23:16.440 Okay, Mark Garneau was the closest to a known opponent, but it was really a ton deal.

00:23:20.680 I mean, come on.

00:23:21.380 I won't even call it a stitch-up.

00:23:22.640 It was just so overwhelming.

00:23:24.060 The entire party apparatus was in his favor.

00:23:26.180 He crushed his tiny opponents, many of whom were just phoning at him.

00:23:29.780 And of course, the Liberal Party members actually made the right choice.

00:23:32.300 He won.

00:23:33.080 And that's the proof that he was the right choice.

00:23:34.940 But please, don't tell me it was tough.

00:23:38.020 Trudeau, in his own riding in Papineau, had a close enough fight, his first entry into politics back in 2008.

00:23:43.960 He beat the bloc by only 3%.

00:23:45.480 Okay, good fight.

00:23:46.560 But don't tell me he wasn't the favorite and hasn't been the favorite ever since.

00:23:51.160 It hasn't even been close since.

00:23:52.320 And don't tell me he's had adversity as prime minister.

00:23:56.500 From whom would he have had this adversity?

00:23:58.400 From the CBC?

00:23:59.780 Did you see this love-in interview with Rosemary Barton?

00:24:02.600 I swear to God, it genuinely, truly looked like a first date.

00:24:10.360 The smiling, the glimpses.

00:24:12.720 She touches her face.

00:24:13.940 She touches her hair.

00:24:14.940 She laughs.

00:24:15.720 Does he notice me?

00:24:16.720 Is he looking at me?

00:24:18.000 I'm nervous.

00:24:19.260 I'm excited.

00:24:20.040 I can hardly wait to tell my girlfriends about it when I get home.

00:24:23.500 I think Rosemary Barton, I think she's in love.

00:24:27.900 She took this selfie.

00:24:30.080 I think she has a little hope chest, a little box under her bed with this picture.

00:24:34.940 It's a picture of her and her man.

00:24:36.540 And I think she doodles hearts on it in daydreams.

00:24:40.780 Has another glass of wine.

00:24:42.660 Offers a glass of wine to her cats.

00:24:45.200 Maybe gets in the bubble bath.

00:24:49.040 Until the story about Jody Wilson-Raybould and the Globe and Mail came out last month,

00:24:54.340 can you tell me one single piece of investigative journalism

00:24:57.040 that was done against Trudeau?

00:24:59.100 I'm sorry, I'm laughing about the bubble bath.

00:25:01.060 I just made that up.

00:25:02.420 Or when the facts came out.

00:25:05.100 When the facts came out with investigative journalism,

00:25:07.520 can you tell me one instance when he was ever held to account?

00:25:13.020 Bev Oda was fired for $16 orange juice by Stephen Harper.

00:25:16.400 Trudeau put not one but two nannies on the government payroll.

00:25:20.280 And the media cheered.

00:25:22.920 Sorry, what adversity has he ever faced?

00:25:24.660 There hasn't been no digging into him.

00:25:28.380 There's been no campaigns by the media to have him thrown out.

00:25:32.780 There hasn't been no one saying his election was discredited.

00:25:35.620 He's only ever had ease in his personal life, in his financial life,

00:25:40.760 in everything, in politics, in the media.

00:25:43.380 What adversity has he ever faced?

00:25:45.640 Other than in a boxing match that one time.

00:25:49.900 Trudeau doesn't love governing, by the way.

00:25:51.560 He doesn't love being prime minister.

00:25:53.640 He loves being a mascot.

00:25:55.440 He loves the schmoozing of it.

00:25:57.160 He loves the selfie.

00:25:58.560 He loves the private jet travel.

00:26:00.700 He loves sprinkling money around.

00:26:02.820 He loves the reality show that is his life now.

00:26:05.380 But he hates the governing part.

00:26:08.020 He took off about 60 days last year as just personal days.

00:26:12.340 He often skips question period.

00:26:14.420 He is the master of no policy file.

00:26:16.480 Maybe accept the marijuana file, only because he himself is a smoker.

00:26:21.320 In fact, that's another unreported aspect of his life, his massive consumption of alcohol.

00:26:27.120 And he admitted he's smoked drugs since becoming an MP.

00:26:30.780 He's got a $1,000 a week budget for wine on his official flights.

00:26:36.180 Look at him here.

00:26:37.220 Watch this.

00:26:38.040 Look at this quadruple wobble.

00:26:39.460 Ready?

00:26:40.160 Wobble number one.

00:26:41.480 Wobble number two.

00:26:42.600 Wobble number three.

00:26:43.540 And he's going to wobble one more time.

00:26:45.280 One more time.

00:26:46.880 Yeah?

00:26:47.280 Oh, yeah.

00:26:48.600 I'm sorry.

00:26:49.160 Don't tell me he's sober there.

00:26:50.540 That was on a trip to Chicago to meet some leftists there.

00:26:52.880 He was drunk there.

00:26:53.680 Drunk or stoned.

00:26:54.340 Imagine if that were Harper. 1.00

00:26:55.780 Imagine if that were Harper. 1.00

00:26:58.220 It's boring now, this schtick.

00:26:59.640 It's tired.

00:27:00.160 Here he is when he met Angela Merkel.

00:27:03.240 Look at my socks, Angela.

00:27:04.780 Hey, hey, guys.

00:27:05.780 Hey, guys.

00:27:06.460 Hey, hey, hey.

00:27:07.540 I got this.

00:27:07.920 Hey, hey, hey.

00:27:08.760 Hey, look at my socks.

00:27:10.320 Hey.

00:27:11.700 Yeah, that's sort of funny.

00:27:12.840 Maybe once.

00:27:15.660 But Angela Merkel, it seems to me, I think she's the most serious woman in the world.

00:27:23.300 I don't think she looks at someone's socks more than once.

00:27:26.360 You can do that party trick once to her.

00:27:29.040 It says, oh, her say good, but what her Trudeau will do about this?

00:27:32.940 Like, I think after like one, I don't think, I don't even know if she's genetically capable of laughing.

00:27:41.020 Okay, so Baron Von Novelty socks shows the socks once.

00:27:44.740 That's great.

00:27:45.180 But I don't think it's going to work with her more than once.

00:27:47.280 Theresa May, Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Narendra Modi, Xi Jinping of China, Benjamin Netanyahu.

00:27:54.660 These are extremely serious people with extremely serious issues.

00:28:01.120 They're busy people.

00:28:02.800 They don't take personal days at all.

00:28:05.180 They want to talk to other decision makers.

00:28:07.780 If they're going to a G7 meeting, they hate it because it takes them away from real things.

00:28:12.720 They'll talk to decision makers, relevant players.

00:28:15.700 Justin Trudeau is not bad.

00:28:17.660 Thanks, the sock trick didn't even work the first time.

00:28:21.000 It ain't going to work the second time.

00:28:22.260 I don't think Justin Trudeau is having any fun anymore now.

00:28:26.820 He loves the fun.

00:28:28.340 He loves being a Kardashian.

00:28:30.600 He loves talking about how much he respects women.

00:28:33.860 And having women coo at him for saying so.

00:28:36.660 He loves giving tearful apologies.

00:28:40.080 But only for the misconduct of other people.

00:28:42.440 He has never apologized for anything he's ever done.

00:28:44.720 Because he's never done anything wrong.

00:28:46.800 Including to Rose Knight or Jodie Wilson-Raybould.

00:28:48.800 They just experienced it differently.

00:28:50.720 I say all this to tell you, I don't actually think Trudeau is good with adversity.

00:28:58.220 With being underestimated, maybe.

00:29:00.640 But that's not what's happening right now.

00:29:03.140 But overcoming adversity, I don't think he's ever done it before.

00:29:07.960 Certainly not like Jodie Wilson-Raybould has.

00:29:10.920 Trudeau's never been the outside chance.

00:29:13.160 He's never been the long shot.

00:29:15.500 He's always had the inside track.

00:29:17.640 He's always had the rules rigged.

00:29:19.200 Ever since he was a kid.

00:29:20.680 Listen to this for a second.

00:29:22.680 My little brother Mishi died about 20 years ago.

00:29:25.900 In an avalanche accident.

00:29:29.260 About six months before, he was driving back home from the west coast across the country.

00:29:36.200 And he got in a terrible, terrible car accident.

00:29:38.260 And his truck tumbled and a sucretes box went flying across the highway.

00:29:43.960 And when the police were helping him clean up and tow, they opened up the sucretes box and there's a couple of joints inside.

00:29:50.760 So he was charged with possession.

00:29:54.080 When he got back home to Montreal, my dad said, okay, don't worry about it.

00:30:01.320 He reached out to his friends in the legal community, got the best possible lawyer, and was very confident that we were going to be able to make those charges go away.

00:30:10.800 We were able to do that because we had resources, my dad had a couple connections, and we were confident that my little brother wasn't going to be saddled with a criminal record for life.

00:30:22.720 That was a clip about his Trudeau privilege.

00:30:25.620 Man, it feels good to be a Trudeau, is how he could have summed that up.

00:30:29.940 That's the point he was trying to make.

00:30:31.580 A rich, powerful kid like him has it easy.

00:30:33.500 But he was also showing how comfortable he is with bending the law, maybe even breaking the law, wasn't he?

00:30:41.240 He was saying how privileged he is, but he was saying how he uses the privilege without any criticism.

00:30:48.940 Bending the law, that's a hell of a thing to look at in light of this SNC-Lavalin scandal.

00:30:54.100 That's not how Jody Wilson-Raybill grew up.

00:30:57.620 I don't think that's how any aboriginal in Canada grows up.

00:31:00.280 Then they say some rich Trudeau from Montreal saying, hey, can you bend the law for my friend?

00:31:06.840 Yeah, your people go to jail.

00:31:08.200 There's some prisons in Canada, 40% aboriginal inmates.

00:31:12.660 And imagine telling the aboriginal justice minister, hey, Jody, some of my friends from the fraternity,

00:31:19.280 they got in a little bit of trouble paying $48 million worth of bribes in Libya.

00:31:24.120 Can you just let them off the hook?

00:31:25.780 Your people can go to prison.

00:31:27.360 Me and my friends, we don't do that.

00:31:31.060 Yeah, no.

00:31:34.160 I don't think it was Trudeau who's underestimated.

00:31:36.120 I think he underestimated Jody Wilson-Raybill.

00:31:39.040 I don't think Trudeau knows how to do well in hard work, in a hard fight.

00:31:45.060 He's not good at it.

00:31:46.160 I think Jody Wilson-Raybill might be.

00:31:50.160 Trudeau has never been in a tough spot before.

00:31:52.320 He's never created a company.

00:31:54.420 He's never started something and followed it through.

00:31:56.680 He's a quitter.

00:31:57.960 He's a playboy.

00:31:58.580 He's a vacationer.

00:31:59.360 He's a jet setter.

00:32:00.260 He's a serial groper.

00:32:01.560 He's not a fighter like his dad was.

00:32:04.180 He's not a street fighter like Jean-Claude Chen was.

00:32:06.380 He's lazy, actually.

00:32:08.100 60 days off last year.

00:32:09.840 Oh, and he's pampered.

00:32:10.640 I think he might actually lose the next election.

00:32:15.500 And I actually think he might quit.

00:32:20.240 I know you're thinking no one quits in politics.

00:32:22.680 All of his cronies want him to stay.

00:32:25.760 They have too much at stake.

00:32:27.200 He's there at Gravy Train.

00:32:29.760 But he himself, I think he just wants to be Peter Pan.

00:32:33.280 I actually don't think he signed up for this fight.

00:32:36.800 I think he liked the fun part about being PM, and that's gone now.

00:32:41.860 I think there's a chance he might quit.

00:32:45.040 What do you think?

00:32:47.560 Stay with us for more.

00:32:48.440 Overall, I want to make sure that we provide people with the most voice possible.

00:33:06.380 I want the widest possible expression, and I don't want anyone at our company to make

00:33:11.920 any decisions based on the political ideology of the content.

00:33:16.100 That is Mark Zuckerberg, the founder and CEO of Facebook, speaking before Congress.

00:33:22.640 But is it true?

00:33:23.860 Does he really want people of every political background to have a voice on Facebook?

00:33:28.960 Well, new information from Project Veritas suggests that was yet another lie by Mark Zuckerberg,

00:33:36.540 who I think doesn't have much credibility left.

00:33:39.040 But if he had any, it's gone now.

00:33:41.860 Introducing via Skype our friend James O'Keefe of Project Veritas.

00:33:46.520 James, congratulations.

00:33:47.820 Another scoop.

00:33:48.720 Tell us a little bit before we get into your clips today.

00:33:51.280 How did you connect with an insider on Facebook?

00:33:55.840 Did you find them, or did they find you?

00:33:58.620 They found us.

00:33:59.740 They found us about a year ago.

00:34:04.600 They just reached out to us.

00:34:06.460 They had decided to take a camera into the organization and film.

00:34:10.500 And it's rather heroic what this person did.

00:34:12.880 So they reached out to us.

00:34:14.500 They sent us the documents.

00:34:15.860 It took us a while to corroborate those documents and track down the engineers who wrote them.

00:34:20.240 But pretty extraordinary work done by this insider.

00:34:23.900 Well, congratulations to you and to them.

00:34:26.160 I tell you, whistleblowers in the past were usually in government.

00:34:29.980 But companies like Facebook are as large as many governments and in a lot of ways have more power over our lives.

00:34:36.560 I'd like to show a few clips.

00:34:38.080 And by the way, to our viewers, and you know James O'Keefe, he's the founder of Project Veritas.

00:34:43.140 He's got the full video, which I recommend you find on his website.

00:34:47.140 But here's a few clips.

00:34:48.160 James, this first clip is about de-boosting, which I think is a made-up word.

00:34:54.140 It's, I guess, supposed to sound more positive than what it really means, which is censoring or restricting.

00:34:59.880 Let's watch this quick clip, and then I'd love you to explain it to us.

00:35:02.840 Take a look about de-boosting.

00:35:05.200 And where did you see this de-boost language when you were present in the Facebook facility?

00:35:12.720 Where did you see this appear on whose pages?

00:35:15.220 I would see it appear on several different conservative pages.

00:35:19.740 I first noticed it with an account that I can't remember, but I remember once I started looking at it, I also saw it on Mike Cernovich's page, saw it on Steven Crowder's page, as well as the Daily Caller's page.

00:35:34.120 Did you check pages of people who are not conservative to see what it said?

00:35:38.240 Yes. At first I was wondering whether this is something that, I had, you know, a couple working theories.

00:35:45.900 I was like, maybe this is an independent versus mainstream thing.

00:35:49.660 Maybe independent figures on the left are experiencing the same kind of de-boosting.

00:35:55.140 But I didn't see that.

00:35:57.800 I looked at the Young Turks page.

00:36:01.280 I looked at Colin Kaepernick's page.

00:36:03.420 None of them had received the same de-boost comment on their account.

00:36:08.580 So, James, tell us what happens when some anonymous person at Facebook decides to de-boost your page.

00:36:18.640 What happens?

00:36:19.280 So, basically, this de-boosting terminology was utilized, was invented by this guy named Danny, Danny Ben-David at Facebook.

00:36:28.060 And basically, it just takes off the notifications.

00:36:30.180 It takes the de-boost away from the video.

00:36:33.060 When you're live streaming on Facebook, your video gets boosted.

00:36:37.080 It's a live video.

00:36:38.500 It shows up on people's timelines with more frequency.

00:36:41.160 So, this engineer describes, this Danny Ben-David engineer who wrote this code, calling it de-boosting.

00:36:49.280 It's very similar to the word shadow ban.

00:36:51.000 These are the sort of words that describe the activities where they demote your – they downrank your content.

00:36:59.680 They demote it.

00:37:01.500 They take it off your timeline.

00:37:04.140 They make it so that it's harder to see the video.

00:37:07.000 But what's interesting about the de-boosting and what makes it so bad is that you don't know that it's occurring.

00:37:13.120 Facebook has a very sophisticated and policing mechanism, whereas if they do take your post down, Ezra, you can appeal it.

00:37:23.220 And there are people who allow you for it to go back up.

00:37:26.980 With the de-boosting, they don't – you don't know that your videos are being de-boosted.

00:37:31.040 And that's what's so nefarious about it.

00:37:32.560 We heard from your source there that they do it for right-wing commentary and pundits.

00:37:40.700 There's no reason why a secret tactic like this wouldn't be used against actual political leaders like Donald Trump, just to pick the obvious.

00:37:50.140 I mean, once you have a secret protocol called de-boosting – I mean, that's the point.

00:37:55.100 It's in secret.

00:37:55.640 They could be de-boosting candidates in the heat of an election.

00:37:58.400 Am I right?

00:37:58.720 Right, and they did it to Mike Cernovich, the Daily Caller, and Stephen Crowder, according to our insider.

00:38:07.240 She looked at other pages that were of the left, and this was not occurring.

00:38:11.200 But just the fact that it is occurring is of concern.

00:38:14.920 It's an automatically generated piece of computer code that converts these live stream videos, like the one we're having right now.

00:38:24.760 I don't know if this is live streamed on Facebook.

00:38:26.860 But it's converted into text, and machine learning goes through, and it identifies the words that I'm using.

00:38:33.840 And if I use certain sorts of words, it de-boosts the posts, takes away notifications, doesn't show up in other people's timelines.

00:38:42.340 According to the engineer in the video, he's describing how this is done, and it limits a video's visibility in news feeds.

00:38:51.420 So it's very troubling, and I think that that's what's nefarious, is that Facebook builds itself as the public town square.

00:38:59.940 People say, well, it's just a private company.

00:39:01.540 Well, not when – if you don't – if you're not given a platform in these companies, you don't actually have a right to speak.

00:39:10.140 It's the way people communicate with each other.

00:39:13.960 So this whole argument, it's a private company.

00:39:16.100 I mean, in many ways, it's replaced the power of freedom of speech.

00:39:22.080 It's become more powerful than all three – all the media companies combine all three branches of government because all of the media companies and the government communicates their messages through Facebook and Google.

00:39:33.340 So if you censor people without them knowing, that's the thing that really bugs me, and that's why this insider felt compelled to come forward because she felt that the company was doing this and not being transparent about it.

00:39:47.780 Yeah.

00:39:48.060 It sounds like people who lived in company towns – you know, sometimes a mining company would build a, quote, a town, and they would own everything, including the sidewalks in your own home and the corner store.

00:39:59.940 And to say, well, hey, you know, we can treat you this way because it's actually private property.

00:40:04.800 Well, there's a deep problem with that when the entire nation, the entire Internet, is the plaything of Zuckerberg.

00:40:11.340 I want to speed up because we've got a few more clips I want to show.

00:40:15.120 Here's one, and they come up with the funniest words.

00:40:17.500 They must laugh and laugh and laugh, James, when they come up with these.

00:40:22.080 Here's one called Troll Twilight Zone.

00:40:25.440 It sounds pretty funny.

00:40:26.920 I don't see anything funny about it.

00:40:28.340 Take a look.

00:40:28.800 Yamamoto goes on to describe other methods of combating hate speech.

00:40:33.220 He writes,

00:40:34.200 Introducing friction via the Troll Twilight Zone will confuse and demoralize them.

00:40:39.640 On his next slide, he defines the Troll Twilight Zone, saying it will enact, quote,

00:40:44.800 Drastically limited bandwidth, auto logouts, and comments and posts will magically fail to upload, unquote.

00:40:53.640 Just below this, Yamamoto writes that his Troll Twilight Zone feature will be triggered, quote, leading up to important elections, unquote.

00:41:02.760 Well, there you have it right there, James.

00:41:05.220 I mean, so you think maybe something's wrong with your computer.

00:41:09.040 You think maybe you're doing it wrong.

00:41:11.020 But no, that is the computer.

00:41:13.280 That is Facebook screwing with you.

00:41:16.320 Twilight Zone messing with your head, logging you out.

00:41:19.520 And again, this whole thing is secret.

00:41:21.800 But the killer line there, I think, James, is that this is a tactic that they plan to use in elections.

00:41:27.340 Facebook might be saying, well, you know, this is just a wishful thinking.

00:41:32.620 This is something they intended to do but did not actually do.

00:41:35.500 But the insider actually saw a Troll index, a Troll score on what's called the fake account index on the content review tool.

00:41:47.520 So she actually saw this Troll score being applied to people based upon what's in the deck.

00:41:54.400 And Seiji Yamamoto, this engineer, actually confronted the guy yesterday morning.

00:42:00.500 And I was in I was in San Francisco.

00:42:02.680 I was at the train station and I asked him about this and he said no comment.

00:42:07.320 And then he threatened me with by calling the police.

00:42:11.100 And then he got on his bicycle and rode away.

00:42:13.300 So I just want to know.

00:42:15.400 I just want Facebook to be transparent about what they're doing when people don't know.

00:42:20.180 And I'm really sick and tired of this.

00:42:22.420 Oh, I'm a private company.

00:42:23.400 I'm a private company.

00:42:24.400 Listen, they are so powerful that you don't even know what's going on unless Facebook is telling you.

00:42:33.860 CNN, New York Times and many, many bloggers, podcasters and media companies derive the lion's share of their revenue by sharing their content on Facebook.

00:42:43.780 So they they are the filter that allows us to see what's going on.

00:42:49.060 I just want them to be honest.

00:42:50.720 I think Facebook owes the world an explanation about number one, the deboosting.

00:42:54.240 And number two, the troll scores they're assigning to accounts this insider.

00:42:58.800 It's not my words.

00:42:59.680 It's a Facebook employee who, by the way, lost her job for blowing the whistle for for giving these documents, taking these documents and leaking them.

00:43:12.440 So she paid an enormous price for doing this.

00:43:15.660 Well, that's very interesting.

00:43:16.720 I want to show one more clip.

00:43:18.300 And this is, of course, from your larger video.

00:43:20.180 I would encourage all of our viewers to go to Project Veritas dot com.

00:43:24.700 Of course, we've had James on the show for many of his scoops.

00:43:27.520 Take a look at this.

00:43:28.440 An actual bullying, psychological psyops campaign from Facebook against their enemies list.

00:43:38.580 Take a look.

00:43:39.140 Another tactic that Yamamoto describes sounds like outright bullying.

00:43:43.800 Quote, when a user does something egregious, warranting an account suspension or deletion, we should notify the friend network.

00:43:51.840 Fear of being outed as a miscreant is what regulates behavior in real life.

00:43:56.500 And we should reintroduce that to the online world.

00:43:59.920 Unquote.

00:44:00.880 So Facebook isn't content with just kicking you off or throttling your site or logging you out.

00:44:10.600 It's going to positively shame you.

00:44:15.020 That's I mean, that's almost defamation as a tactic.

00:44:18.560 They're going to smear you as a tactic to break your will or something.

00:44:22.880 That's what he's talking about.

00:44:23.840 This is this is one of the slides from the PowerPoint presentation that Yamamoto wrote at Facebook where they are going to notify your friends if you've done these behavior, exhibited these behaviors.

00:44:35.820 And it reminds me of Nathaniel Hawthorne, the Scarlet Letter or something like that.

00:44:39.820 And this is probably one of the more egregious things, according to another person I talked with in Facebook that, you know, this person said, this is this is just egregious what what the company is doing.

00:44:51.620 Again, I want Facebook to respond and I want them to talk about this troll score.

00:44:57.800 And these words in this PowerPoint presentation, we're not talking about like racial slurs or, you know, Klansman graphics.

00:45:06.980 We're talking about words like lulls and mainstream media and normie.

00:45:12.780 And I mean, the right has kind of appropriated meme culture, particularly in the presidential election.

00:45:17.700 So this was an effort to actually identify non-harmful speech, which has political connotation and to assign scores to that speech.

00:45:30.220 And people do not know this is occurring.

00:45:32.540 Yeah. So this is pretty this is pretty amazing stuff.

00:45:36.760 And the fact that this person is testifying, she saw it with her own eyes and she took the documents and they fired her as where they fired her or they let her go two days after our story on Twitter last year.

00:45:52.940 So that's very suspicious timing, isn't it?

00:45:55.620 Yeah. Well, let me put up one more slide.

00:45:57.680 You've been generous with your time, James.

00:45:59.320 I know you have a lot of interviews to do today, but we have a slide from the PowerPoint presentation of this engineer, Seiji Yamamoto.

00:46:08.920 So here are the words that they are calling, you know, harmful.

00:46:17.880 Normie, which I think refers to sort of severely normal, nonpolitical people.

00:46:22.160 IRL in real life.

00:46:24.500 Chatelet, which is sort of a funny Proud Boys slogan.

00:46:27.960 And cuck, you know, it's a it's it's a word that's hard on the ears.

00:46:32.180 It means sort of a spineless person.

00:46:34.640 Zucked, I think, makes I think that means makes fun of Zuckerberg himself.

00:46:38.840 You said mainstream media is actually anyone who says mainstream media is considered a troll.

00:46:43.920 Was that one of the bad words, too?

00:46:45.680 It's in the glossary of the troll report.

00:46:47.880 It's in the glossary of the troll report that that we uploaded to our Web site because there's a lot of documents that she dumped.

00:46:53.900 The word the words MSM actually appear.

00:46:57.300 Overton window also appears in the glossary sort of defining these terms, this terminology.

00:47:04.280 And a lot of it is conservatives use MSM.

00:47:07.540 There aren't many there aren't many leftists that use the term MSM.

00:47:10.900 I mean, the you know, the Democrat media complex tends to like the mainstream media.

00:47:17.020 So it doesn't use these words are considered pejorative, I guess, critical words that describe media.

00:47:23.540 So Facebook has identified these words and assigned a troll report score on user accounts in this on this content review system, this back end of Facebook that our insider saw.

00:47:39.640 And again, these words are not they're not racial slurs.

00:47:43.940 Because they're we're not talking about I mean, one could even argue that hate speech may or may not be allowed.

00:47:50.760 But this is not hate speech.

00:47:52.300 These are it's like using the you know, he's just the way conservatives talk.

00:47:56.720 Yeah.

00:47:57.420 And it's an effort to combat the sort of meme culture that these engineers might argue got Donald Trump elected.

00:48:04.300 Yeah. You know, I absolutely believe that on some social media companies, even the acronym MAGA, Make America Great Again, I absolutely believe that's being used as a trigger word for censorship.

00:48:17.620 Of course it is.

00:48:18.740 Well, I mean, it's I take it that's not one of the words you found here, but I have no doubt that that has or will be used because the documents clearly show that they are.

00:48:29.680 So what's interesting about this report is that they would deny that they're even doing this.

00:48:33.580 They would deny that there is even such a thing as deboosting or that it would be used for political purposes.

00:48:39.560 This program was Sigma is called this deboost program was intended to combat maybe pornography. 0.63

00:48:46.740 Violence. Suicide is the thing that we think it was.

00:48:49.520 But why is it showing up on all these pages?

00:48:51.520 It's it's mining language.

00:48:53.680 So, you know, it's really it raises a lot of questions.

00:48:56.360 And I didn't know that they were doing this.

00:48:59.000 I don't think you did.

00:48:59.820 We suspect it to be the case.

00:49:01.580 But now we have engineers and documents with the admissions.

00:49:04.680 Yeah.

00:49:05.440 Or they could do what they did in the UK yesterday and just delete Tommy Robinson's whole account with him.

00:49:10.400 One million followers.

00:49:11.480 I guess that's a little embarrassing.

00:49:12.900 So they go this secret route.

00:49:14.600 James, you've been generous with your time.

00:49:15.900 I'm going to invite all our viewers to go to Project Veritas dot com.

00:49:19.400 Let me ask you, do you have more videos in this sequence, in this series, or do you just have the full extended version of this conversation?

00:49:27.100 Well, we were doing this series on big tech and we do have more videos.

00:49:32.680 I do encourage everyone to look at the full raw interview on YouTube.

00:49:38.020 It's pretty fascinating.

00:49:39.560 It's it's it's it's an amazing story of what this person did.

00:49:43.200 And I I also think that we need other people to be brave.

00:49:46.660 If you're watching this and you're on the inside, we need people who have courage.

00:49:49.820 We need people who are willing to make a sacrifice and follow this this woman's example.

00:49:55.480 And we have other people, Ezra, like that.

00:49:57.700 And we're I'm going to be at CPAC this week.

00:49:59.680 I'm going to be speaking on the main stage Friday and I'm going to be asking people to come forward and do what she did.

00:50:05.540 It's really heroic what she did.

00:50:07.340 She lost her job.

00:50:08.460 She lost her job for leaking the documents.

00:50:11.120 So, yes, there's more to come.

00:50:13.040 Next couple of days, we focused on this particular story and her story and then stay tuned for more to come.

00:50:20.100 All right.

00:50:20.640 You're the best.

00:50:21.320 There he is, James O'Keefe in a sane world.

00:50:23.760 He'd be winning a Pulitzer probably once a year.

00:50:26.420 But for now, he has to simply receive the thanks of a grateful America and a grateful world.

00:50:32.440 Thanks, James.

00:50:33.040 And keep up the fight.

00:50:35.700 All right.

00:50:36.680 Well, stay with us.

00:50:37.740 There's more ahead on The Rebel.

00:50:43.040 Hey, welcome back on my interview with Manny Montenegrino.

00:50:54.680 Jan writes, what a passionate and insightful interview.

00:50:57.600 Truly appreciate his wisdom and experience because he has the insight to know why and what they are doing.

00:51:03.180 Yeah, Manny's great.

00:51:04.600 And I love letting him go because he's got a lot.

00:51:07.020 He's got like 10 points.

00:51:07.900 He's got like a big notepad of things he's got to go through.

00:51:10.700 And I don't know most of them.

00:51:13.420 I sort of learn.

00:51:14.100 I take notes.

00:51:14.980 Sometimes I got to go follow up what he's saying because I have never heard it before.

00:51:19.800 I really appreciate his insights on the NAFTA renegotiations.

00:51:23.340 Those are great videos.

00:51:24.640 And he's just right on on this stuff.

00:51:28.020 I'm glad you think so, too.

00:51:30.040 On my monologue yesterday, Ron writes,

00:51:31.920 Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.

00:51:48.100 And that's exactly the way it's being described.

00:51:50.640 I mean, Michael Wernick, that insanely partisan, crazy man, clerk, who we now learn was part of the shakedown of Jody Wilson and Red Bull.

00:51:58.440 He's on the committee, this five-man hand-picked committee that's going to determine what's disinformation or not, what's fake news or not.

00:52:05.700 Yeah, no thanks.

00:52:07.520 Paul writes, the unholy merger of big tech and big government.

00:52:10.900 They don't just want to control the Internet.

00:52:12.900 They want to control everything.

00:52:14.240 Yeah, you know, I remember, I mean, the Internet is young enough and I'm old enough to remember when the Internet was a tool of freedom to get at government, to get around government.

00:52:26.520 And when the people in the Internet had that ethos of this is the frontier.

00:52:33.220 It's a bit of a Wild West, but it's free like the Wild West was.

00:52:36.680 It has utterly been colonized now.

00:52:39.140 Now tech is the preferred domain of the censors because you can do it much more easily through the stroke of a key than you can through something as messy as a trial.

00:52:49.980 I'm really worried about this Karina Gould and her plans to regulate the election. 1.00

00:52:54.000 I think you should be, too.

00:52:55.000 I should probably be more worried because I know the first keystroke they'll make is the one that shuts us down.

00:53:00.700 Well, that's our shows for the week.

00:53:02.940 We've had a busy week.

00:53:03.860 The whole world is had a busy week, hasn't it?

00:53:05.940 I hope you're enjoying our programs until Monday.

00:53:08.320 On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - March 02, 2019

Justin Trudeau’s friends say he's at his best when he’s facing adversity. Is that really true？

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