Rebel News Podcast - Kenney fights to get Alberta in order, but Calgary's Mayor Nenshi is displeased

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00:01:23.940 Calgary's Mayor Nahid Nenshi is fighting with conservatives and sucking up to Trudeau.

00:01:38.500 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:53.940 Calgary's ever-progressive Mayor Nahid Nenshi is fuming at the UCP government for the fiscal

00:02:05.460 restraint, especially towards municipalities that the conservatives have implemented in their new

00:02:11.700 budget. Calgary's big spending mayor doesn't like the idea that he too has to get his own fiscal

00:02:18.160 house in order at the same time that everybody else is. Simultaneously, Nenshi and disgraced

00:02:25.640 former progressive conservative Premier Alison Redford have volunteered to help Prime Minister

00:02:32.180 Justin Trudeau manage the growing sentiment of Western alienation that is spreading like wildfire

00:02:37.900 all across the prairies. Yeah, you know what? That'll help. So sucking up to Trudeau while at the

00:02:44.280 same time fighting with Jason Kenney because Jason Kenney is doing exactly what he was elected to do,

00:02:52.300 get Alberta back to work. And yet Nenshi gets all uptight about being called Trudeau's mayor.

00:02:58.100 Now joining me tonight to discuss Calgary municipal politics and how that has bled over into provincial

00:03:04.160 and now federal politics, as well as the continued evacuation of oil field companies from Alberta in

00:03:10.700 the wake of Justin Trudeau's re-election is my friend William Macbeth from Save Calgary in an

00:03:16.920 interview we recorded yesterday afternoon.

00:03:31.080 So joining me now from Calgary is good friend of the show, good friend to me,

00:03:36.660 William Macbeth from Save Calgary. Hey William, thanks for joining me. There is so much going on

00:03:43.900 with Nenshi and his intertwining with liberal federal politics in the wake of the election

00:03:51.540 that I just had to have you on because you are my Nenshi expert. And we'll get to him in a second

00:03:57.380 in his intertwining with Justin Trudeau. But I wanted to talk about this incredible thing that's

00:04:03.260 happening at Calgary City Hall. There are councillors, I had to clean my glasses to make

00:04:10.240 sure I was reading this properly, but there are actually elected officials in municipal government

00:04:15.760 who are calling for wage reductions at Calgary City Hall. Please give us all the news.

00:04:23.220 It's almost hard to believe, Sheila, that we have found some municipal politicians who actually

00:04:28.900 understand that the way to make government less expensive is to cut costs. And the biggest single

00:04:35.720 source of cost for City Hall right now is salaries, wages, benefits, and pensions. So you're absolutely

00:04:42.180 right. A trio of fiscally conservative councillors has finally taken up Save Calgary's fall for wage

00:04:50.260 cuts. They're looking at an across-the-board cut, including for sitting city councillors,

00:04:56.040 5% of 5% in order to try and bring those costs under control. Now, some people may think that's

00:05:04.160 not very much. Other people, those on the left, will try and tell you that it's the end of civilization

00:05:09.740 as we know it. What I can say is that since 2010, the cost for wages has gone up by nearly 40%. So it's

00:05:20.140 become 40% more expensive to run the city of Calgary just on the wage bill alone. So this is a welcome

00:05:26.500 move. And it's the only way I think we're actually going to see Calgary come close to holding the line

00:05:31.960 on taxes in this next budget cycle. Yeah. And it's predictably the three that you would think of.

00:05:37.620 It's Jeremy Farkas, of course, rookie, but a real game changer, I guess, down at City Hall.

00:05:43.980 Sean Chu, we know he's a fiscal conservative and a great guy. And Councillor, correct me if I'm saying

00:05:49.800 his name wrong, Joe Magliocca? Magliocca. Okay, perfect. It was a good guess. But, you know,

00:05:58.260 it's funny that this is so controversial, given the economic situation in Calgary right now. The day

00:06:04.800 after the election, we saw massive layoffs at Husky. We've seen Encana pull out of Canada,

00:06:10.700 a couple other smaller oil and gas service companies along the way, massive retail vacancy

00:06:19.020 in downtown Calgary. And yet, there's this desire, especially from the left, to see government

00:06:26.520 workers completely insulated from the reality the people who are paying their salary are living with

00:06:33.300 every single day. You know, I think some people outside Calgary and across the country,

00:06:40.700 have a lot of misconceptions about what is happening in the city right now. I think a lot

00:06:45.460 of people think that Calgary has turned the corner and that things are getting better. But it's

00:06:50.420 actually just the opposite. It's the worst it's ever been. And it continues to get worse in each

00:06:55.600 and every day. You've talked about Husky, you know, an energy icon here in Alberta, laying off hundreds

00:07:01.480 and hundreds of people. The moment the Trudeau government was reelected, we see Encana started by

00:07:08.300 visionary businessman, Gwen Morgan, who has been such a positive contributor from philanthropy and

00:07:15.800 from building up his company, deciding that they just can't keep going based out of Canada. There

00:07:21.660 isn't enough investment. There isn't enough opportunity to pursue growing the business. And so they've decided to

00:07:29.360 decamp to the United States. It's really been a tough time. And yet, City Hall, first of all, only really

00:07:36.080 noticed there was a problem, literally, in the last few months. Up until then, they've been had their heads in the

00:07:42.340 stand. And they somehow seem to think that the economic turmoil buffeting Calgary shouldn't apply

00:07:50.120 to the people who are paid the highest salaries, on average, of workers in this city, and who have the

00:07:56.360 highest benefits, and who are funded by struggling Calgary taxpayers. So, you know, we're thrilled that

00:08:03.040 finally someone has taken on board our call to cut salaries. Nobody wants to see their salary cut. It's not a

00:08:10.060 happy circumstance for anybody, but it is what you have to do to make ends meet when times get tough.

00:08:16.360 Yeah, I mean, you sort of touched on Encana, and I did too. But Encana, you know, they didn't say

00:08:25.800 that Trudeau was responsible, and that economic conditions in places like Calgary are responsible.

00:08:31.860 But you've got to read between the lines here. Within Encana specifically, they said they're unable to

00:08:38.000 attract investment in Canada. And that speaks to the investment climate. And who's created that

00:08:44.840 investment climate that has gone a complete 180 from when Stephen Harper was around? And that is

00:08:51.800 Justin Trudeau. And you see an overlay in municipal politics. When you have municipal politicians

00:08:58.420 hiking property taxes out of control, of course, it makes it impossible for businesses to stay in

00:09:06.920 business in Calgary. And you see businesses, smaller businesses, we hear about Encana and we hear about

00:09:12.960 Husky, but we don't hear about the mom and pop shops closing all the time because of Trudeau or Trudeau

00:09:19.160 Nenshi's anti-business tax policies.

00:09:24.360 No, you're right. I mean, Encana founder Gwen Morgan did make it very clear that he considers the actions

00:09:31.360 over the last four years of the Trudeau government to be one of the primary and contributing causes

00:09:36.040 to Encana's decision. And I think for him, he sees something that he poured his heart and soul into

00:09:42.120 building that reflected the passion, the creativity and the energy of Calgary simply saying we can't

00:09:49.080 make a go of it anymore here in Canada. And I think you're right that those are the things that do get

00:09:55.800 attention. When a big company announces they're going to make a change, it becomes national coverage.

00:09:59.860 The prime minister, who I believe is on vacation right now, did, you know, his office put out a

00:10:05.220 statement. But what you don't hear is when the mom and pop restaurant that opened its doors and

00:10:11.140 employed eight people is being forced out of business. You don't hear when the local store

00:10:16.940 that was started by newcomers to Calgary or even newcomers to Canada, who this represented the avenue of

00:10:24.580 opportunity for them is being forced to close their doors because they can't pay their property taxes

00:10:29.380 and people can no longer afford to buy their products. So these are all things that reflect

00:10:35.140 the really the growing sense of desperation that that Calgarians are feeling. And I think

00:10:40.100 the one of the reasons we're finally seeing some city councillors move forward with the options that

00:10:46.160 we've been pushing for is because people are now desperate enough to actually pursue policies that

00:10:53.360 were once considered unthinkable. You know, when times were good in Calgary, the idea that we would

00:10:57.860 have to reduce salaries for public sector workers would have been greeted with outright hostility on

00:11:03.520 the part of city council. And I'm sure it will still be greeted that way by a lot of our leftist city

00:11:10.380 council. But the fact that these things are becoming accepted, the fact that the United Conservative

00:11:14.880 Party was elected with the strongest mandate of voter votes in Alberta's history, and the fact that,

00:11:20.880 you know, Calgary got rid of and Alberta got rid of every Liberal MP in Saskatchewan did too,

00:11:27.360 these are all signs that we're reaching the end of our rope about what we can do. And we're prepared

00:11:31.920 to take more drastic measures because we've become more desperate.

00:11:36.080 Yeah. Speaking of drastic and desperate measures, Mayor Nahid Nenshi and Alison Redford, of all people,

00:11:45.600 have both volunteered to help Prime Minister Justin Trudeau do Western outreach. If it weren't so

00:11:57.200 laughable, I mean, it would be offensive. But I mean, these are, Nenshi is failing Calgary and Redford.

00:12:07.200 I mean, she was run out of town and she was instrumental in ending a four decade dynasty of 0.88

00:12:13.760 the progressive conservatives. They're failures by, I think, most measures. But those are the

00:12:21.120 two that have stepped up to volunteer to quell the Western alienation sentiment and bring good

00:12:30.160 tidings to Ottawa. I mean, this is just crazy. Yeah. I mean, I'm not sure, Sheila, if Justin Trudeau

00:12:38.000 watches your show regularly, but if he does, I'd like to offer him this piece of advice. If you want

00:12:45.280 to try and shut down independent settlement and Western alienation, please do not think that

00:12:52.320 appointing Alison Redford or Nahid Nenshi to cabinet is what is going to satisfy angry Albertans. In fact,

00:12:59.840 I would suggest it will do exactly the opposite. I mean, it was such an odd scene on election night to

00:13:06.480 watch BC Liberal Premier Christy Clark say that Trudeau could not and should not be reelected.

00:13:14.320 In fact, that he was such an embarrassment count on the national stage that, quote unquote,

00:13:18.400 we should take away his passport is what she said. A BC Liberal Premier saying it had to be Andrew

00:13:23.600 Sheer and the Conservatives, Alison Redford saying it should be Justin Trudeau. So, you know, in the

00:13:29.600 topsy-turvy world of politics, I guess anyone can believe anything at any time. But

00:13:34.160 I could honestly think of no two worse people to put into cabinet if you want to try and show Alberta

00:13:41.040 that its concerns are being heard and will be addressed by the Trudeau Liberal government.

00:13:46.080 Yeah, it's actually quite frightening to think that Alison Redford could have any sort of influence. But

00:13:51.200 you know what? She probably would appreciate the free plane rides again. 1.00

00:13:54.960 Let's move on and let's talk a little bit about the UCP budget, because it has some cuts in it. I don't

00:14:05.360 think substantial enough. I want someone to go through the government with a machete,

00:14:12.080 willy nilly chopping things. I'd be happy with that. But that's not what Jason Kenney is doing. He's

00:14:17.760 doing a more thoughtful approach to government than I would ever have. And it's making a lot of people

00:14:25.440 mad. Nenshi is one of them. He's come out, according to CBC in their headline, swinging against the UCP

00:14:34.400 budget. He said it breaks promises and introduces regressive taxation. I can't even believe those

00:14:43.040 words came out of his mouth. Yeah, no. So I think obviously what the mayor is really unhappy with

00:14:50.720 is the fact that Calgary has been awash with money. We have spent money on every pet project.

00:14:58.240 And just to name an example, I live in a community in Calgary called the East Village, which has

00:15:02.800 received tremendous investments of tax dollars. Well, good news. The city of Calgary just spent yet

00:15:08.800 another million dollars to build another tiny section of bicycle lanes through the East Village,

00:15:15.040 despite the fact that there were already perfectly good bicycle lanes that existed in this community.

00:15:21.040 So, you know, examples like that tell me that no, the city has not really cut itself to the core

00:15:26.960 when it comes to finding and rooting out wasteful expense. What Jason Kenney and the United

00:15:31.520 Conservative government have said is we have been living on credit, our credit cards for far too long.

00:15:37.360 And it wasn't just Rachel Notley and the New Democrats. It started well before her under the

00:15:43.040 dying days of the PC government. One of the reasons why Wild Rose became a factor was we no longer had

00:15:49.280 a conservative government who believed in fiscal responsibility. But we've been borrowing money

00:15:55.600 at every opportunity in order to just keep the lights on in some cases. And it's caught up with us.

00:16:00.240 We're paying more in interest than we spend in most government departments. Interest on our debt is

00:16:07.200 now the fourth largest government department. We spend more on it than we do helping children and

00:16:12.160 seniors and people with disabilities and people in care. So we have a real problem. And Jason Kenney,

00:16:18.560 I think, said we need to get our house in order. And he made, I think, a really good point in his televised

00:16:24.720 address. It's not just a fiscal issue. It's a moral one. If you saddle our children and grandchildren

00:16:32.160 with $100 billion or $200 billion worth of debt, you will permanently, permanently decrease the quality

00:16:39.280 of services they're going to get in areas like education and health care because we won't be able

00:16:43.360 to afford to pay for them. So he started to turn the tide. I think it was quite a measured, and as you

00:16:49.680 said, thoughtful approach, some cuts, some staffing reductions, mostly through attrition, some scaling

00:16:55.920 back of capital investment. But if you listen to people like the head of Alberta's biggest public

00:17:01.280 sector unions and the Mayor Nancy, you'd think it was Attila the Hun rampaging his way across Europe,

00:17:07.680 splashing and burning in his dough. And I'll give you the great example of the Green Line. They're upset

00:17:13.440 because the provincial government has said they may not fund Green Line to the level that was once

00:17:19.120 indicated by previous governments. Well, there isn't a green line yet to fund. They still haven't

00:17:24.800 finished planning it. They haven't figured out where it will go and what it will cost. And if you're

00:17:30.240 an Alberta minister responsible for municipal affairs, how could you write a blank check to the

00:17:34.640 city who has spent four years or longer planning a project that still has no firm budget, no firm

00:17:40.560 route and no firm completion date? It's ridiculous. So if the city of Calgary is looking for people to blame

00:17:46.240 because of its current economic lows, they really should start by looking in the mirror.

00:17:50.800 Yeah, I mean, and I guess that brings me to the next topic that I had up on my computer screen that

00:17:55.120 I wanted to talk to you about. And it's Doug Schweitzer. Now, I'm not the biggest fan of the

00:18:00.400 justice minister. He has said some unkind things about me and rebel news in the past. He, you know,

00:18:07.520 he sent out a fundraising letter basically saying that we were sympathetic to neo-Nazis. You know what?

00:18:12.560 And I realize his appointment is outreach to the red Tories that formed that coalition that sent

00:18:19.840 Jason Kenney into power. But he did come out swinging against Nahid Nenshi. Nenshi was critical

00:18:26.640 of him because it appears as though the Kenney government has cut some funding for policing.

00:18:33.120 But Nahid Nenshi cut funding to policing. And, you know, if he's cutting funding to policing,

00:18:38.960 well, maybe he needs to prioritize, I don't know, maybe see a reduction in some of the salaries around

00:18:45.680 City Hall. I mean, when you're when you're taking money from the policing budget and that's a crisis

00:18:51.520 that you need to have an open battle with the provincial government over, maybe consider that five

00:19:00.400 percent wage rollback and, I don't know, maybe cut some of the budget for the public art.

00:19:05.840 Yeah, I, you know, one, the major measure that they're concerned about police is the

00:19:10.400 province will now take a greater share of basically speed tickets. For someone caught speeding,

00:19:16.960 the province takes a share and they're going to up the share of the money that they're going to get

00:19:21.360 from that. But you're absolutely right that, look, they just spent a million dollars building a bike

00:19:25.600 lane around my building. That's not a necessary or urgent project. That is something that could have

00:19:32.480 waited. They want to tear up and redo Stephen Avenue. They've hired an international design firm to to

00:19:39.840 create some specs on it. Stephen Avenue works just fine. And we certainly don't have the money to spend

00:19:45.120 ripping it up and rebuilding it based on what a European company decides is best for a cold flat prairie

00:19:51.920 problems. So I think you're absolutely right that there are places to cut. Salaries are one of them.

00:19:57.440 Pensions is another. The mayor gets an extra pension on top of the one he already gets for being a city

00:20:03.840 councillor. Many senior civil servants of the city of Calgary have multiple pensions. They get vehicle

00:20:09.600 allowances and expense accounts, above average wages. It's a sweet perk. And like so many others in

00:20:15.920 Calgary, it's time for people who earn these high salaries to make a small sacrifice in order to

00:20:23.920 help our city keep going. And I would also say respectfully for the green line, maybe it's time

00:20:31.360 to think if building a five or six billion dollar rapid transit line, a third of the way it was

00:20:38.560 originally supposed to be built, is the best use for our funds right now. Councillor Gondek, who I would

00:20:44.880 consider to be pretty centrist in most of her positions on city council, if not maybe center 0.99

00:20:50.480 left, has said, why don't we examine bus rapid transit? Why? Because it's a fraction of the cost

00:20:56.640 and it can start right away, unlike Green Line, which has an expected completion date of at least

00:21:01.760 10 years once they finally finish deciding where it's going to go. So there's lots of places to save

00:21:07.280 money down at City Hall. The mayor just doesn't like the idea of not being able to fund all of the

00:21:12.720 special interests and pet projects that are also dear to his heart. Yeah, he doesn't want to make

00:21:17.680 the tough choices or to think outside the box. The whole Green Line debacle feels like that episode

00:21:24.480 of the Simpsons where the guy comes and tries to sell them the monorail. I think that's how it's

00:21:30.240 going to end up. Now, I want to talk about the thing that literally everybody is talking about on both

00:21:35.680 sides of the debate. And that's Western separatism. Now, I'm not sure if I'm a Western separatist.

00:21:41.440 I'm open to the idea. And more importantly, I'm open to the discussion. I don't think that

00:21:49.200 Alberta's future should be decided for us by people outside of the province. And I don't think

00:21:57.200 we should be told to shut up by people from outside of the province. And yet, that is exactly 1.00

00:22:04.320 what is happening. And I think that's only going to make it worse. Some of these people who are telling

00:22:09.520 us to shut up, I think they're plants from the Wexit movement, because they're so effective in

00:22:16.320 angering Albertans to say, you know what, to hell with all of you.

00:22:21.200 No, I think you're absolutely right. You couldn't be a bigger advocate for a separation than some of

00:22:28.160 the people who claim to be so dead set against it from out east. Look, I think for a lot of Albertans,

00:22:36.960 we're proud Albertans, we're proud Canadians. But we also believe that Confederation is a group of

00:22:43.920 provinces who benefit from being in a collective organization, a collective country, because it's

00:22:52.240 better for all of us when we work together. It's starting to break down, though. And I think for

00:22:57.200 a lot of people who live in Alberta, they view the Federation as no longer being a benefit to Alberta.

00:23:02.640 We pay into it through federal taxes, mass amounts of money that then get transferred to other provinces

00:23:08.720 who are frankly, anti our most important industry and anti our economic success. And when we see that,

00:23:15.760 when we see the premier of Quebec come out strongly against pipelines, when we see the leader of the

00:23:21.840 Bloc Québécois, you know, talk about the oil barons, they want to institute a new equalization

00:23:27.920 program to transfer tax dollars from high carbon locations to low carbon locations.

00:23:32.320 We're doing that. We're doing that already.

00:23:36.800 The message it sends to Alberta is simply that we are not considered a real part of Canada,

00:23:42.400 that Canada thinks of us as the poor cousin. And frankly, I think what gets lost a lot in this

00:23:49.440 debate is how much everyday Albertans are struggling, how much everyday families are struggling.

00:23:54.080 People, you know, the number of people visiting food banks is off the charts. The number of people

00:23:59.120 suffering from substance abuse is off the charts. The number of people who are contemplating or have

00:24:04.880 attempted suicide because of the desperate circumstances they find them in is off the charts. There is a very

00:24:10.640 real human consequence to these, you know, somewhat academic debates now about whether climate change

00:24:17.840 needs to be addressed in 10 years or 20 years and the degree to which carbon emissions have that impact.

00:24:23.200 Well, here in Calgary and Southern Alberta, it's about people being able to keep their house.

00:24:28.480 It's about being able to afford to send your kid to, you know, to school, the university, to pay for hockey

00:24:35.280 lessons, whether or not you can afford to have a vehicle, whether or not you can afford to put food on

00:24:40.400 your table. And so for us, again, we talk about desperation and desperate people turn to

00:24:46.560 increasingly, you know, desperate measures in order to try and resolve their problems. And I think for

00:24:52.480 many Albertans, they're looking at this liberal government led by Justin Trudeau, who said his

00:24:56.720 new priority for the new government would be reducing carbon and focusing on green energy and green

00:25:02.880 technology. And we just don't see a federal government who's going to have our back.

00:25:07.360 And at that point, I think it is worth having the conversation about whether or not Alberta is

00:25:12.400 best served by remaining part of the Federation.

00:25:15.920 Yeah, you know, I think there's a psychological side effect of this new Wexit movement. And right now,

00:25:22.400 or at least in the wake of the election, it was like the entire province is not only economically

00:25:29.520 depressed, but psychologically depressed, there's not a lot of hope around. And I think the Wexit movement,

00:25:36.000 whatever that ends up looking like, if it's a better deal in Confederation, or if it's a complete exit

00:25:42.560 altogether, it's giving people hope for something different. And it's giving them a place where they

00:25:49.280 can fight back in that it's growing. And there's actually some credible people who are now coming in

00:25:56.320 and saying, OK, well, this is how this could legally happen if it is the will of the people. And I think it is

00:26:02.960 doing something for the psyche of Albertans. We're getting that sort of fight back nature back that

00:26:08.400 I think has been dampened recently. So for me, I'm glad to see that. I'm glad to see that Alberta can

00:26:19.840 do spirit sort of remaining in the Wexit movement, because we've been told for four years under

00:26:27.920 Notley, and then another four years under Trudeau that there's not much that we could do.

00:26:33.760 And I think the Liberal government might find out exactly what we're willing to do. And they're going to learn it the hard way.

00:26:40.480 William, I want to thank you so much for coming on the show. We're headed up towards, you know, our usual time to

00:26:46.480 call it a day. William, how do people find out about Save Calgary and support the good work that you do? Because you've got some really

00:26:53.920 great emails. Get on the email list.

00:26:58.560 Well, thank you very much. I always appreciate the opportunity to talk about ourselves. So, you know,

00:27:03.920 Save Calgary, we're less than two years out now until the next municipal auction based down here in Calgary.

00:27:09.760 And we think that more than ever, more than certainly in the last seven or eight years, 10 years, there's a real desire to see our city go in a new direction.

00:27:18.800 So if you believe we can and must do better as a city government and as a city, I urge you to go to our website,

00:27:26.080 savecalgary.com. I hope you visit us on Facebook and on Twitter. Save Calgary for both those. And certainly if you can,

00:27:34.640 the two things we ask, sign up to our mailing list. It's how we keep people informed. It's how we break news, what we've discovered.

00:27:41.920 There's a lot of secrets down there behind the closed doors at City Hall, and we try and throw them open

00:27:46.560 whenever we can. So sign up to our mailing list. And if you can, make a small donation to us through our website online,

00:27:52.080 because we rely on the support of everyday Calgarians, everyday voters who are just fed up with what's been happening down at City Hall.

00:28:01.520 So we hope that you take the chance to check us out and to hear from us on a regular basis, because this is so important for the future of our city.

00:28:09.440 Yeah. You know what? I love the work that you guys do holding municipal government to account.

00:28:14.160 It seems as though conservatives have forgotten that municipal politics is really the farm team

00:28:19.520 for liberal, provincial, and federal politics. And we have to start there first. William,

00:28:25.920 thanks so much for coming on the show. We've got to do this more often instead of...

00:28:30.480 Skype told me it's been two months since I had you on the show, and I was a little disappointed in myself.

00:28:35.120 Wow. Well, I'm happy to be back now. Any time that works for you is good for me.

00:28:39.600 Great. Thanks, William. Have a great day.

00:28:41.840 Thanks, Sheila.

00:28:42.320 Whatever happens with Alberta going forward, whatever Alberta decides to do, whether it looks like

00:28:58.560 separation from Canada, whether it's a new deal within Confederation or complete autonomy as

00:29:04.400 something else, it's important that those decisions are being made by Albertans for Albertans for once.

00:29:11.520 And it's going to require new voices and new ideas because the existing politicians and

00:29:16.320 current way of doing things have both completely failed at moving the needle on all of the things

00:29:21.600 that are fueling this Western alienation. Pipelines, equalization, property rights, fiscal

00:29:28.320 accountability, and even gun rights. Things are going to change in this country one way or another with

00:29:34.320 regard to Alberta. And to steal a phrase from Justin Trudeau's old man, just watch us.

00:29:40.720 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody

00:29:45.680 back here in the same time, in the same place next week. And remember,

00:29:49.680 don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

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Rebel News Podcast - November 07, 2019

Kenney fights to get Alberta in order, but Calgary's Mayor Nenshi is displeased

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