Rebel News Podcast - Kim Campbell has gone mad — So why is Trudeau letting her choose our judges？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Do you know who Kim Campbell is?

00:00:02.700 If you're under 30, I bet you don't.

00:00:05.820 She was a Prime Minister of Canada for about 130 days,

00:00:11.760 25 years ago or so. Summer job, really.

00:00:15.660 So she was voted out in the worst political defeat in Canadian history.

00:00:19.980 She was a first-term MP who became Justice Minister,

00:00:22.760 and then Prime Minister, and then lost, all in one term.

00:00:25.660 Then she went into a life of obscurity, but she's back now.

00:00:31.380 Justin Trudeau has appointed her in charge of our Supreme Court vetting.

00:00:35.420 But what's really in the news is how insane she is on Twitter. 1.00

00:00:38.820 I'm talking insane in the membrane. I'm talking insane in the brain. 0.98

00:00:42.500 And may I encourage you to watch this video?

00:00:45.240 And, I mean, I know you're listening to the podcast, but you've got to watch the video, too.

00:00:48.540 You can do that by becoming a premium subscriber.

00:00:51.040 Go to therebel.media slash shows.

00:00:53.660 It's eight bucks a month. You get the video stuff.

00:00:56.080 I've got to show you these crazy tweets that she's writing. 0.98

00:01:00.120 I'll read them to you, but you should see them anyways.

00:01:02.500 All right. Here's today's show.

00:01:05.120 You're listening to a Rebel Media podcast.

00:01:08.340 Tonight, Kim Campbell has gone mad. 0.98

00:01:11.160 Why is Trudeau letting her choose our judges?

00:01:13.720 It's August 6th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:18.040 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:21.560 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:25.920 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:37.020 Kim Campbell not only was prime minister for barely longer than the lifespan of a fruit fly,

00:01:42.740 she also presided over the greatest political destruction in Canadian history.

00:01:46.720 Funny thing, Campbell's motto in 1993 was,

00:01:49.980 Think twice.

00:01:51.500 A warning, I guess, against not only the liberals,

00:01:54.400 but against the upstart Reform Party and Bloc Hibiquot Parties.

00:01:57.780 But there was sort of a joke at the time, if you're old enough to remember.

00:02:00.780 Voters saw Think twice, and they did, giving them just two seats,

00:02:05.980 her own not being amongst them.

00:02:07.880 Normally, Kim Campbell would go away and be forgotten, 1.00

00:02:11.520 but I think she's a bit of a grifter. 1.00

00:02:14.160 Out of pity, maybe?

00:02:15.800 Jean-Claude Chen, the liberal, gave her a plum diplomatic posting

00:02:19.360 as Canada's consul general in Los Angeles.

00:02:22.620 What an amazing job.

00:02:24.440 Basically a four-year vacation,

00:02:26.140 where she was given a huge hospitality budget

00:02:29.080 and partied with the Hollywood elites. 0.95

00:02:31.700 How gross.

00:02:32.580 But I guess she needed the work and hadn't qualified for a pension yet. 0.99

00:02:38.120 Since then, she's largely been shunned in Canada.

00:02:41.440 I think she's really a punchline to a joke,

00:02:43.420 and I put it to you that 90, 95% of Canadians under 40 years old

00:02:47.560 have never heard of her.

00:02:48.340 I mean, other than an answer to a trivia question,

00:02:51.180 why would you?

00:02:52.780 So she's got all sorts of taxpayer-subsidized gigs,

00:02:56.520 many of them overseas.

00:02:57.640 But then, who knows why,

00:03:01.340 Justin Trudeau appointed Kim Campbell,

00:03:04.960 hand-picked her, hired her,

00:03:06.960 to be in charge of the committee that selects our Supreme Court judges.

00:03:10.420 What?

00:03:11.300 Now, in the United States,

00:03:12.320 that would be one of the most powerful appointed positions in the government,

00:03:15.860 choosing the Supreme Court judges,

00:03:17.400 because, of course, in Canada,

00:03:19.000 we don't have confirmation hearings of any real sort,

00:03:21.200 so Kim Campbell is that confirmation hearing. 0.98

00:03:24.620 What questions are asked of the judges?

00:03:26.320 What are their answers?

00:03:27.820 What is the political litmus test?

00:03:29.860 Why are people disqualified?

00:03:31.040 In the U.S., all of those things are vetted in public,

00:03:33.840 and they're very bruising battles, both ways.

00:03:37.020 The confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh last year was just staggering.

00:03:40.800 We got to know everything about him,

00:03:43.280 or more accurately,

00:03:44.140 every smear thrown against him going back to college,

00:03:47.540 almost all of which were proven to be false,

00:03:49.400 other than the fact that he does like beer.

00:03:52.340 Anytime accusers show up with lawyers like Michael Avenatti,

00:03:54.960 it's best to hold on to your wallet.

00:03:56.900 He represented some of the accusers.

00:03:58.400 Anyways, my point is,

00:03:59.620 vetting Supreme Court judges is so important,

00:04:01.820 because it shapes legal and cultural trends for decades,

00:04:04.760 seriously, for a generation.

00:04:06.340 The Americans take it seriously.

00:04:07.860 We give that power to Kim Campbell? 1.00

00:04:11.540 Now, I used to follow Kim Campbell on Twitter,

00:04:13.660 but I criticized her,

00:04:14.980 and so she blocked me,

00:04:16.000 which shows you how politically neutral and balanced she is. 0.99

00:04:18.680 I'm kidding. 0.87

00:04:19.200 She's a full-on kook. 1.00

00:04:20.840 She's off the deep end. 0.85

00:04:22.320 She's politically unstable. 0.99

00:04:23.620 I won't go so far as to say she is mentally unstable or mentally ill. 0.95

00:04:27.660 I won't say that.

00:04:28.820 That's a medical or psychological diagnosis that I cannot make. 0.90

00:04:32.260 But I will call her crazy in the political sense, 0.54

00:04:34.640 and I will now prove it to you with some tweets from her.

00:04:38.020 She does like a dozen tweets every day, by the way.

00:04:41.280 She's obsessed with Donald Trump.

00:04:43.980 Look at this.

00:04:44.760 Not in a good way. 0.97

00:04:45.800 She disparages him like a crazy person would do. 0.62

00:04:50.700 She retweets the most outrageous and over-the-top insults about him. 0.93

00:04:54.540 She writes the most outrageous.

00:04:56.080 She's profane. 0.99

00:04:56.900 She's gross. 1.00

00:04:57.840 She bashes our chief ally daily, 0.99

00:05:00.700 and that's fine if she were an obscure ex-prime minister, 0.95

00:05:04.020 no longer in the public interest,

00:05:05.800 that no one even heard about anymore,

00:05:07.400 but she's not.

00:05:07.940 She's Justin Trudeau's hand-picked boss of the Supreme Court nominations.

00:05:11.420 That is a very senior and powerful position.

00:05:13.860 It requires political neutrality.

00:05:15.560 Who could trust judges who were picked by an extremist?

00:05:19.040 But look at this.

00:05:19.900 Just look.

00:05:20.380 I'm going to go through this one carefully with you,

00:05:22.900 slowly, because it's just so incredible.

00:05:24.640 This was just the other day.

00:05:25.700 Now, she's replying, as you can see, at the bottom there.

00:05:28.340 There was a tweet from a U.S. senator from Rhode Island.

00:05:31.980 Sheldon Whitehouse is his name.

00:05:35.320 Now, what that senator says isn't that interesting.

00:05:38.500 He's talking about a court case.

00:05:39.840 It's what Kim Campbell says about him that's very interesting.

00:05:44.100 Let me read what Kim Campbell says.

00:05:45.260 She says,

00:05:47.140 This is precisely why I have said that the oil companies have committed crimes against humanity.

00:05:55.120 That's in all caps with an exclamation point.

00:05:57.120 That's why I'm reading it that way.

00:05:58.260 All the factors are there.

00:06:01.180 Knowledge of the truth and deliberate action to conceal, becloud the truth,

00:06:07.180 to save their profits while preparing to protect themselves.

00:06:11.140 Nuremberg worthy, exclamation point.

00:06:14.580 So let's go through this a bit.

00:06:15.900 The first thing that just jumps out is all the capital letters,

00:06:20.980 which is sort of like shouting in a tweet.

00:06:22.940 I mean, if someone sent you an email and had sentences in capital letters that were angry words,

00:06:29.760 you'd think it was aggressive and over the top.

00:06:31.980 It reminds me of the conspiracy theory guy who, you know,

00:06:35.920 it reminds me of this guy.

00:06:36.820 It reminds me of people who hand out single-space documents in all caps

00:06:39.860 with all kinds of exclamation points to you on the street.

00:06:42.840 She put four parts of her tweet in capital letters,

00:06:46.000 three exclamation points.

00:06:47.600 I think she was manic or something.

00:06:49.960 But let's look at the words themselves.

00:06:51.240 I have said that the oil companies have committed crimes against humanity.

00:06:58.080 The oil companies.

00:06:59.460 Which oil companies?

00:07:00.960 The ones that employ hundreds of thousands of Canadians?

00:07:03.640 The oil companies?

00:07:04.640 The oil companies?

00:07:06.020 Care to be a bit more specific there?

00:07:07.540 Or is this that crazy way of talking when you're deliberately vague

00:07:10.540 and anyone who doesn't immediately agree with you is part of the conspiracy?

00:07:13.340 They are out to get me.

00:07:15.440 You know who they are.

00:07:17.200 You know what they're doing.

00:07:18.240 Crimes against humanity.

00:07:19.800 I think she's a little cuckoo. 0.70

00:07:22.760 Okay, so the oil companies have committed crimes, but not just any old crimes. 0.79

00:07:27.300 The worst crimes imaginable on par with Hitler, who committed crimes against humanity. 0.93

00:07:32.880 She says that these oil companies are guilty.

00:07:34.780 They have committed these crimes, she says.

00:07:36.720 Now, I actually took the time to look up the legal case she was referring to.

00:07:40.080 It's the one that that Rhode Island senator was referring to.

00:07:43.580 It doesn't say what she claims it says.

00:07:47.260 Okay, it's a global warming lawsuit by Rhode Island against a bunch of American oil companies.

00:07:51.940 Not against OPEC companies.

00:07:53.280 Not against Saudi Arabia or Iran or Venezuela.

00:07:55.340 Just against companies that make oil and money and jobs for Americans.

00:07:58.620 But the case, and I read the whole ruling today, doesn't find them guilty of crimes against humanity.

00:08:05.560 It actually doesn't find them guilty of anything at all.

00:08:10.500 It was a procedural decision.

00:08:12.480 The oil companies say that the Rhode Island courts don't have the jurisdiction to hear the case.

00:08:17.400 Another court does.

00:08:18.960 So the entire ruling was about which court gets to hear the case.

00:08:24.140 And Rhode Island's chief judge says that Rhode Island does, but he granted the oil company 60 days to appeal his decision.

00:08:30.540 They haven't talked about the merits of the case yet.

00:08:32.140 So it's not a ruling on the substance.

00:08:34.720 The underlying case has not even been heard, let alone adjudicated.

00:08:38.740 No one has been found guilty of anything.

00:08:40.780 And Kim Campbell, with all the capital letters and exclamation points, just said the oil companies are guilty,

00:08:46.580 including guilty of crimes against humanity, which, of course, they're not even charged with.

00:08:50.400 So she's a kook, but she's also completely uninformed about court cases and laws and judges, 1.00

00:08:57.640 which is a bit alarming given that she's choosing who is in charge of Canadian court cases and laws and judges.

00:09:04.260 She's not just wrong.

00:09:05.360 She's weaponized her wrongness. 0.93

00:09:07.720 She's as passionate about it as she is wrong about it.

00:09:10.800 She's raging.

00:09:11.720 She's calling for Nuremberg trials.

00:09:14.660 And she doesn't even know any facts about it.

00:09:17.640 She says the company's deliberately concealed facts.

00:09:20.400 That's simply not proven yet.

00:09:21.760 She said they're guilty.

00:09:23.680 That's just not true.

00:09:26.540 Oh, how I wish they would sue her for defamation to have her answer just how kooky she is in court. 1.00

00:09:31.140 Maybe that would cause her to finally be thrown off this Supreme Court committee just for being so utterly ill fit. 1.00

00:09:36.740 But one last point, Nuremberg, you know what that is, right?

00:09:39.020 The crimes against humanity.

00:09:40.180 That's Holocaust language. 0.53

00:09:42.420 After the Holocaust, the Nuremberg trials were where senior Nazis were tried for crimes against humanity,

00:09:49.300 for the Holocaust, amongst other things.

00:09:51.300 That's the language she's using here. 1.00

00:09:54.700 She's comparing Nazi mass murderers, the people who gassed six million Jews, to oil companies,

00:10:01.440 like the kind of oil company that she fills up her car from every week,

00:10:06.620 the kind that employs countless Canadians.

00:10:08.460 She's saying the oil companies are like Nazis.

00:10:12.080 Now, I'm not sure if she means it.

00:10:14.020 How could she actually mean that?

00:10:15.500 How could a sane, responsible grown-up actually mean that?

00:10:17.840 How could she say that unless she was joking or indulging herself or going a bit batty in her old age? 1.00

00:10:24.240 Kim Campbell is a footnote in history.

00:10:26.540 Other former leaders go a bit nuts, too.

00:10:28.540 I've seen it. 0.99

00:10:29.320 Vicente Fox, the former Mexican president, is an anti-Trump madman. 0.99

00:10:34.700 He swears, he threatens, he makes a clown of himself, but he's nothing anymore. 0.98

00:10:38.660 He's retired. 0.93

00:10:39.400 He has no power.

00:10:40.800 Kim Campbell, though, she's the woman in charge of choosing Canada's Supreme Court judges. 1.00

00:10:45.220 Her own judgment is woefully lacking.

00:10:47.640 So is Trudeau's judgment for appointing her and keeping her in that position.

00:10:51.660 And here's my real worry.

00:10:54.240 Anyone who appeals to her, who she approves, who she likes, might be just as reckless and judicially illiterate as she is, too. 0.87

00:11:07.000 Stay with us for more.

00:11:07.980 The shooter in El Paso posted a manifesto online consumed by racist hate.

00:11:29.480 In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy.

00:11:36.200 These sinister ideologies must be defeated.

00:11:41.080 Hate has no place in America.

00:11:43.600 Hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart, and devours the soul.

00:11:50.440 We have asked the FBI to identify all further resources they need to investigate and disrupt hate crimes and domestic terrorism.

00:12:01.060 Whatever they need.

00:12:02.340 Well, that's President Donald Trump yesterday speaking out against the two mass murder shooting sprees, one in El Paso, Texas, the other in Ohio.

00:12:14.320 He focused in particular on one manifesto allegedly published by the Texan murderer that claimed to be inspired by racist anti-immigrant sentiment.

00:12:32.600 Although in other regards, that shooter claimed to be a leftist.

00:12:36.100 But it doesn't mention the Ohio shooter who was a down-the-line Democrat, an active supporter of the Democratic candidate Elizabeth Warren.

00:12:46.480 And someone who mimicked the language of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez calling the ICE, the immigration police in the United States, saying their detention facilities were similar to concentration camps.

00:12:58.480 Well, did Donald Trump manage to avoid being called a racist murderer supporter himself by saying what so many were glad he did say?

00:13:08.840 Well, let me refer you to today's story by Joel Pollack of Breitbart.com.

00:13:13.200 The headline's quite incredible.

00:13:15.480 National Public Radio.

00:13:16.540 Trump should have blamed himself for mass shootings.

00:13:20.900 Really?

00:13:21.560 Well, joining us now is the author of that report, our friend Joel Pollack, senior editor at large at Breitbart.com.

00:13:26.760 Great to see you again, Joel.

00:13:28.480 Good to see you, too.

00:13:30.740 I thought that Donald Trump went too far, frankly.

00:13:34.840 He's disavowed white supremacy at least a dozen times.

00:13:38.360 It's never enough for the left.

00:13:39.800 I think he was using some of their language when he didn't really have called to do so.

00:13:45.340 And, of course, they didn't accept it from him.

00:13:47.840 They mocked him, said he was disingenuous.

00:13:49.640 As you point out, National Public Radio, which is a public broadcaster in the States, actually blamed him.

00:13:55.460 I don't know.

00:13:55.820 But what was the result of his comments yesterday?

00:14:00.080 Did anyone soften their heart towards Trump on it?

00:14:03.540 Yes, but most of them were conservatives or Republicans.

00:14:08.800 Many of the calls for him to say something were coming from Republicans.

00:14:12.480 And I think by making that statement, he gave a lot of Republicans confidence to stick with him on the other issues here, which are immigration and gun control.

00:14:22.700 And I think that had he not said something, he would have seen some more serious defections from his own party, not because they believe the president is a racist, but because the media pressure is simply massive.

00:14:32.700 I have actually never seen anything like this.

00:14:34.680 The media are running a 24-hour round-the-clock campaign to demonize Trump and Trump supporters.

00:14:40.180 So it's remarkable that he's held his coalition together as well as he has.

00:14:44.800 I think people understand that the other side has overstepped the mark, that they've jumped the shark, so to speak.

00:14:51.560 Beto O'Rourke telling Trump he can't come to El Paso.

00:14:54.300 People taking cheap shots at the president.

00:14:56.120 People saying that he had something to do with this shooting in El Paso, which he clearly did not.

00:14:59.980 Even the shooter in his manifesto said that Trump did not, and yet they're blaming Trump.

00:15:04.980 The argument, according to National Public Radio, which is publicly funded, nevertheless, they have said that Trump is responsible for the mass shootings because he used the word invasion to describe hundreds of thousands of people coming across the border illegally every month.

00:15:19.900 And the shooter in El Paso also used the word invasion.

00:15:24.100 Now, the shooter also talked about environmental catastrophe and talked about things like a basic income grant.

00:15:29.720 Those are left-wing buzzwords.

00:15:31.520 We don't see people on the left being blamed for motivating him. 0.96

00:15:34.140 I mean, the shooter basically was crazy. 1.00

00:15:35.660 Most of these shooters are crazy. 0.98

00:15:37.140 The Ohio shooter, the one in Dayton, a city I know very well, he had far left-wing views. 0.97

00:15:43.340 He supported Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, particularly Warren.

00:15:47.160 Yet those views, it's widely accepted, probably had nothing to do with the shooting.

00:15:51.420 He had had paranoid fantasies.

00:15:53.260 He had spoken to friends many times about wanting to shoot up a bar.

00:15:55.920 He had been reported to police.

00:15:56.960 Nothing had been done.

00:15:57.620 So there's a case to be made, perhaps, for laws that allow someone's firearms to be taken away if they show mental health problems, if there are complaints about them and so forth.

00:16:05.960 Those laws can be abused, but I think you can provide enough safeguards.

00:16:08.840 And several states have such laws already.

00:16:10.980 The issue here is that nobody's making a big deal out of the Ohio shooter's radical left-wing views, and he echoed a lot of the crazy things that have been said by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and other Democratic politicians, like calling the migrant facilities at the border concentration camps and so on.

00:16:27.760 He's echoed a lot of their rhetoric, but no one's making an issue out of that.

00:16:31.020 What's going on right now is two things.

00:16:34.080 First of all, it's the usual media bias.

00:16:35.800 This is the media and Hollywood trying to get the country into a frenzy to blame Donald Trump for these shootings.

00:16:41.500 They have an open mic at the moment to do it.

00:16:44.200 They have elected officials who are repeating this.

00:16:47.120 The mayor of Dayton is a Democrat, mayor of El Paso, representatives from El Paso, a very democratic city, even though Texas overall is fairly conservative.

00:16:53.760 They have that platform, and they're using it because this is all about getting rid of Trump in 2020.

00:16:59.780 The second thing that's happening is a much more profound problem, and that is that this country cannot yet decide what to do about illegal immigration, that we tried one method under Obama, which is essentially a creeping amnesty, making more and more people legal in the United States,

00:17:18.180 even if they came here illegally, and trying to come up with solutions that allow millions more who entered illegally or overstayed their visas to stay here before there's any sort of border security to make sure it doesn't happen again.

00:17:30.280 So Obama basically tried one approach.

00:17:33.020 Trump's trying a different approach, which is to build a wall, enforce the law, prevent people from claiming asylum when they don't really deserve it, closing loopholes and all that sort of thing.

00:17:42.120 The country has recoiled in some ways because of the media, but has recoiled against seeing those laws enforced.

00:17:48.180 We hear reports from Democrats about kids in cages and all of that.

00:17:51.940 And so the country has really had a standstill over this issue, and it's become something that divides the parties, that if you want the law enforced, you're a Republican.

00:17:59.020 If you don't want it enforced, you're a Democrat.

00:18:00.460 There's also partisan interest working there because Democrats like the idea of growing their voter base by admitting more and more illegal aliens who will then owe a debt of allegiance to the Democratic Party for legalizing them in the United States.

00:18:14.460 So Democrats see future voters here.

00:18:16.160 They want to turn Texas blue.

00:18:17.460 By the way, saying that doesn't mean I'm a mass shooter because the mass shooter wrote the same thing in this manifesto.

00:18:22.240 This is something Democrats themselves say.

00:18:23.980 There's even a name for it.

00:18:25.220 It's called multicultural millenarianism.

00:18:27.940 It's the belief that we will finally see the progressive utopia once the white electorate has been outnumbered. 0.83

00:18:34.160 And you see that in statements like Nancy Pelosi saying that Donald Trump's ideology really is make America white again.

00:18:40.060 She's the one who introduces race into the conversation. 0.71

00:18:42.640 And the implication is that they have a different racial agenda.

00:18:45.160 It's a terrible thing to say, and maybe that's not her complete intention.

00:18:48.940 But certainly she's signaling that Democrats expect a more demographically diverse future to be one that's better politically for them.

00:18:56.220 So many Republicans suspect, and I think rightly so, that Democrats are reluctant to do anything about illegal immigration because they see all these illegal aliens as future voters. 1.00

00:19:04.260 So you have a border on the south end of the United States, on the edge of the country that actually runs through the country.

00:19:10.900 Essentially, the U.S.-Mexico border is a fault line now in American politics.

00:19:15.500 And the parties are determined to fight this one out.

00:19:18.900 There is no reasonable compromise.

00:19:20.960 You might think that through a process of learning over the decades, we might have found that compromise.

00:19:25.180 And actually, the compromise is pretty obvious.

00:19:26.820 You create border security first so that you never have to do any more amnesty.

00:19:32.020 And then you decide who among the 11 million, maybe 20, 30 million people in the country illegally deserves to stay or should be given a chance to prove they deserve to stay. 0.70

00:19:41.100 You can sort that out once you make sure there's no more people coming in illegally.

00:19:45.120 But Democrats don't want to do that. 0.91

00:19:46.520 They don't want to have that process happen in that order.

00:19:48.720 They want the legal status to happen first.

00:19:50.600 So there's no pressure at all to secure the southern border.

00:19:53.160 In fact, all the Democratic presidential candidates, with a few moderate exceptions, are talking about decriminalizing the act of crossing the border illegally.

00:20:01.180 They want free health care for illegal aliens. 0.92

00:20:03.240 These are the ideas dominating the Democratic Party.

00:20:05.220 They want to create more incentives for people to come.

00:20:07.360 They don't want to enforce the border.

00:20:08.720 They don't want a wall or a physical barrier on the border.

00:20:10.820 They think the answer to this migration crisis is shoveling more money to the corrupt governments in Central America that can't govern themselves.

00:20:17.960 And this is the fault line.

00:20:19.840 Essentially, we have Democrats believing in a kind of utopian future and cynically also understanding that this utopia happens to be better for them politically because as you delay dealing with this problem, you create more future Democratic voters.

00:20:32.360 And then you have Republicans on the other side saying we'd like to achieve something that the public says it wants.

00:20:37.840 They want the laws enforced and people want an end to illegal immigration.

00:20:40.500 But yet, under the pressure from the media and the kind of coverage that happens, people recoil when they see those laws being enforced.

00:20:46.620 It's sort of like making sausages.

00:20:47.980 No one wants to actually see it happen.

00:20:49.880 So we're really at an impasse.

00:20:52.600 And Trump is encountering a political problem because the more he presses to try to solve that impasse, the more he wrestles with the problem, the more he is vulnerable to accusations of racism.

00:21:03.600 Why?

00:21:03.840 Because Democrats have successfully obscured the difference between legal and illegal immigration.

00:21:09.820 Well, let me interrupt you.

00:21:11.080 But it comes to you as a quote-unquote immigrant. 0.77

00:21:13.120 And so if you attack illegal immigration, you are then cast as attacking all immigrants, meaning you are racist because immigrants are people from other countries.

00:21:20.840 Oftentimes they are brown or black or myself.

00:21:24.060 I'm white or whatever.

00:21:25.100 I happen to be an immigrant.

00:21:26.320 But OK.

00:21:27.360 So Democrats have basically identified Trump's criticism of illegal immigration with racism.

00:21:32.080 Hence, anything Trump does to secure the border is, by definition, racist.

00:21:36.080 Let me interrupt for a second, Joel.

00:21:37.240 And so they whip themselves up into a frenzy where anything he does about this is seen as a racial incitement, and hence the impasse that our country is at today.

00:21:44.960 All right.

00:21:45.260 Listen, I mean, you and I have talked about immigration on several occasions, and I think I agree with your assessment.

00:21:50.740 But how did we get from talking about mass shooters to immigration?

00:21:55.580 I know that Trump has mentioned immigration a few times in the last few days, but isn't the center of this debate firearms and banning guns and seizing guns and gun culture?

00:22:12.780 I mean, that's certainly what the left is talking about.

00:22:14.980 Yes, there are some absurd accusations that Trump stimulated this with his talk.

00:22:20.560 But isn't the battle this moment another battle over firearms?

00:22:27.100 The firearms are not an issue that can be resolved.

00:22:30.780 It's not possible to resolve the issue.

00:22:33.580 That doesn't mean you don't try to make it better.

00:22:35.440 You don't try to manage the problem of violence.

00:22:38.400 But you have a country, first of all, with hundreds of millions of guns.

00:22:42.940 So even if you decided that guns were the problem, there's really no way to get rid of them unless you can invent some kind of a magnet that you can place over the country that only attracts guns to it.

00:22:52.760 I mean, it's not going to happen.

00:22:54.860 People are not going to give up their firearms, mostly because the purpose of the Second Amendment is deeply ingrained in American culture, which is to protect the citizens from tyranny.

00:23:04.780 And if you don't think tyranny is possible, just look at what the Democrats are doing and proposing, and then you understand why people want to be armed.

00:23:11.440 Not because they want to attack the government, but because people feel it's the ultimate safeguard against a government that takes away their rights.

00:23:17.420 So that's number one.

00:23:18.560 Can't be done.

00:23:19.320 Number two, it's not clear that guns are the problem.

00:23:22.720 And in fact, in some cases, guns are the solution.

00:23:25.040 Remember, not too long ago at the mass shooting at a church in Texas, it was a gun that stopped the shooting.

00:23:30.840 A neighbor with an AR-15 stopped the mass shooter, shot at him, causing him to flee and eventually be apprehended by police.

00:23:38.920 Actually, I think he killed himself before the police arrived, but basically he ran away because he was fired at by a neighbor with a gun.

00:23:46.540 That doesn't happen in every situation, but it does happen often enough.

00:23:49.820 And there is no way you're going to convince Americans, at least a significant, at least a minority of Americans, that giving up guns is the solution to acts of mass violence.

00:24:01.180 In fact, as more guns have appeared in American society, as more guns have been sold and bought, you've seen fewer of these mass shootings.

00:24:09.300 Crime has actually gone down in most places, even though guns have gone up.

00:24:13.160 And that's the opposite of what gun control activists want you to believe.

00:24:17.160 Now, we don't want guns to be held by people with mental illnesses and so forth. 1.00

00:24:21.020 And there's a mental health aspect of this that really is something we can work on.

00:24:25.320 It's not going to solve the problem completely, but there's an element of it that is there.

00:24:29.020 Many cases, such as the Ohio shooter or the Parkland shooter last year, in many cases, there were warning signs that these people were mentally disturbed.

00:24:36.840 There had been police calls that were overlooked.

00:24:39.040 And that's what these red flag laws are aiming at. 0.99

00:24:41.840 That's why the president is going there, because he's seeing that state authorities and local authorities are often not doing enough.

00:24:48.720 They have laws in place to do this already, but the red flag idea is we're going to give the states more resources to do it. 0.91

00:24:53.900 So there's no excuse not to do it, not to take guns away from someone who's mentally unstable, who's made threats, as the Dayton shooter had already made to several people, of shooting up a bar.

00:25:03.620 I mean, in many of these cases, the shooters are known, their intentions are known beforehand, and nothing is done.

00:25:08.520 So there's something we can work on.

00:25:10.560 But in general, this is a problem that is very, very difficult to control.

00:25:14.680 You can't stop it by calling it domestic white supremacist terrorism or whatever, because we have laws against terrorism already.

00:25:21.340 You can't solve it.

00:25:22.920 You know, the president talked about video games.

00:25:24.520 You're not going to solve it through video games.

00:25:25.880 I mean, I think violent video games could be part of the problem.

00:25:28.400 There's some scientific questions about that.

00:25:30.240 But I am disturbed by the kind of video games people play.

00:25:33.980 But look, this is a very difficult thing to solve.

00:25:36.260 The good news is it is getting better over time.

00:25:38.780 The bad news is we don't have one magic solution that fixes it.

00:25:42.800 And I think if you start making guns the issue, you're going to create more division in the country because people like their guns.

00:25:50.940 They don't want to give them up.

00:25:52.200 It's a deeply divisive issue.

00:25:54.240 And it's not really going to have an impact.

00:25:56.300 In California, we have some of the most strict gun control regulations anywhere in the country.

00:26:00.660 We had a mass shooting not 10 days ago at an outdoor festival.

00:26:04.240 It hasn't really helped much in California.

00:26:06.420 Now you could say, well, they're getting guns and ammunition from other places.

00:26:08.620 But in many cases, they're buying the guns here in California.

00:26:11.260 So this is not an easy problem to solve.

00:26:14.040 Anyone pretending it's an easy problem to solve and the only problem is president or the right wing or the National Rifle Association, that's just a way of ginning up political division.

00:26:23.020 Because you're just telling Americans that the problem are these people on the other side who we don't like, not the problem that's complicated and we need to work together to figure out how to make it better.

00:26:31.340 It's not going to go away.

00:26:32.600 We are becoming a less violent society over time, and that's good.

00:26:36.160 But this is a country that has, since its founding, accepted the tradeoff that with more freedom is going to come more risk.

00:26:43.440 And that's something that we all choose to live with.

00:26:46.460 You know, maybe help me out on this one last point.

00:26:49.180 And thanks very much for giving us so much time today.

00:26:53.020 Joel, Donald Trump was blamed, including by National Public Radio and Every Democrat, for at least the El Paso violence.

00:27:03.340 Barack Obama was not blamed for the Sandy Hook mass shooting.

00:27:07.680 Bill Clinton was not blamed for the Columbine shooting.

00:27:10.600 And just this past weekend in Canada, it was a long weekend up here, Toronto had so many shootings.

00:27:17.880 I think it was a record in a bad way, and Toronto is now on track for a record murder streak.

00:27:25.160 It has a higher murder rate than New York City.

00:27:28.400 And yet you don't see that blamed on Justin Trudeau.

00:27:30.920 So help me understand how gun crime on a Democrat or a liberal's watch is just gun crime, but gun crime on a conservative's watch is the conservative's fault.

00:27:42.260 How is that happening?

00:27:43.820 How is that argument being done, being made?

00:27:47.320 How has it been getting away with, got away with?

00:27:50.800 You know, the best example, look, there are cases where it would have made no sense whatsoever to blame Bill Clinton or Barack Obama for the mass shootings.

00:27:58.700 I mean, the Columbine massacre, these were two very troubled teenagers who carried it out, had nothing to do with politics.

00:28:05.800 I don't even think they understood anything about politics.

00:28:08.640 With some of the mass shootings under Obama, I mean, Sandy Hook was a mentally disturbed young man who stole the guns, I believe, or was given guns by his mother and should never have had them and had very troubled family life.

00:28:21.760 I mean, nothing political about it.

00:28:23.520 The mass shooting that one could, if one wanted to use the media's logic, the one that one could lay at Obama's door was the shooting of five Dallas police officers in 2016 at a Black Lives Matter rally.

00:28:38.380 A crazed activist who empathized with the movement fired at the crowd and shot and killed five Dallas police officers.

00:28:47.940 Now, nobody actually blamed Obama for that, but you could have.

00:28:51.740 You could have said he supports this movement and he has used this rhetoric against police and somebody took it too far and he needs to tone it down.

00:28:59.720 Not only didn't he tone it down, he showed up at the funeral for the police officers and gave some very nice remarks about law enforcement, but then went on to talk about why Black Lives Matter had an important point we all should listen to.

00:29:10.380 So, you know, you could have done that, but people didn't.

00:29:13.300 People didn't do it.

00:29:13.940 You could also say that Nancy Pelosi and Bernie Sanders and others on the left inspired the shooter at the Republican baseball practice in 2017.

00:29:21.980 There was a mass shooter who luckily didn't kill anybody, but he injured many people, including Steve Scalise, the majority whip of the Republican House at the time.

00:29:29.880 He showed up and he was a Bernie Sanders fan and he watched Rachel Maddow on MSNBC and he believed a lot of the crazy things the left said about Donald Trump and he showed up with a gun.

00:29:39.300 So one could and a few people did start to say the Democratic Party has blood on its hands in the media for the way they've ginned up all this anti-Trump hatred.

00:29:47.340 But even that was pretty muted.

00:29:48.880 The reason people are doing it with Trump is very simple.

00:29:50.760 The media believe this and they want it to be true and they want to get rid of Trump.

00:29:55.140 This is an effective way of making people afraid, not just of Trump, but afraid to identify with Trump.

00:30:00.760 They want to make him toxic so that voters don't go anywhere near him, that you can't wear your Trump T-shirt outdoors, that wearing a MAGA hat becomes an incitement to violence.

00:30:09.240 Cory Booker today called for banning all future Trump campaign rallies because he said that they provide incentives or inspiration for white supremacist terrorism.

00:30:19.160 I mean, this is where we've come.

00:30:21.700 This is because the media are trying to make sure Trump doesn't win in 2020 and they're trying to drown him out and demonize his supporters.

00:30:28.660 It's entirely political.

00:30:30.280 There's no evidentiary basis for any connection between what Trump has said and what these killers are doing.

00:30:35.560 The evidentiary basis is as strong, if not stronger, on the Democratic side.

00:30:39.500 You don't see conservatives doing what the media on the left, which is basically all the media.

00:30:44.020 You don't see them doing to liberals what the media are doing to conservatives.

00:30:49.160 Joel, it's great to talk with you.

00:30:50.820 Thanks so much for giving us so much insight.

00:30:53.460 Thank you.

00:30:53.980 All right.

00:30:54.380 There you have it, Joel Pollack, senior editor-at-large at Breitbart.com.

00:30:57.340 Stay with us.

00:30:58.160 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:31:10.080 Hey, welcome back on my special episode yesterday from Baltimore.

00:31:12.840 Dan writes,

00:31:13.400 Well, I enjoyed the trip to Baltimore, and I'm very glad I had Kimberly as my guide.

00:31:27.120 And it was very friendly, and I felt very safe the whole time.

00:31:31.180 And I was glad she was with me.

00:31:33.020 It gave me courage to do some reporting.

00:31:35.080 We did see a rat.

00:31:36.080 I'm from Alberta, which has no rats, as you may know.

00:31:39.180 It was a little bit startling.

00:31:40.420 But these people just wanted little problems solved.

00:31:43.020 And they're not political, like getting more than one little garbage bin for your whole family.

00:31:48.760 That's not a left-wing, right-wing thing.

00:31:50.400 It's just a can-you-run-a-city thing.

00:31:53.160 Having garbage picked up, dealing with abandoned homes, that's not even a Republican-Democrat thing.

00:31:58.920 It's just don't you even care about your own people sort of thing.

00:32:02.280 And when you've been a Democrat who's been re-elected 40 years in a row, I guess you just don't need to care anymore.

00:32:09.200 Stephen writes,

00:32:10.260 Yeah, you know what?

00:32:15.900 I have to tell you, the people there, they weren't even thinking Democrat-Republican.

00:32:18.360 They were just thinking, we got rats, we got drugs.

00:32:20.380 I saw the grossest things there.

00:32:24.340 And, you know, conservatives might say,

00:32:27.080 Well, come on, buck up, buttercup, clean up your own neighborhood. 1.00

00:32:30.160 But clean up the dirty syringes, the used condoms, and the jars of urine, which is the weirdest thing I saw there. 0.95

00:32:38.160 Yeah, you have no idea how much garbage there was.

00:32:41.440 And like I say, these people don't have cars.

00:32:43.660 And they only have their small garbage bins, and the city may or may not pick it up.

00:32:47.560 So they actually can't.

00:32:49.620 I know that sounds crazy. 0.98

00:32:50.780 Well, take out your garbage. 0.99

00:32:52.220 Paint the place.

00:32:53.160 The problem is too large for individuals without resources to do.

00:32:59.140 And the irony is that their very powerful congressman, Elijah Cummings, was just five minutes away from the squalor, on a nice street, by the way.

00:33:07.280 And it was like he's five million miles away.

00:33:10.800 Robert writes,

00:33:11.760 It's almost like far-left liberals everywhere don't really care about the citizens of their own countries.

00:33:15.440 Yeah, it was very sad.

00:33:18.300 I saw a lot of shocking things.

00:33:20.360 The drug, I saw people just absolutely high on drugs going through bizarre physical reactions just on the street.

00:33:30.600 I saw lots of gangs hanging out.

00:33:32.960 And you can sort of realize why so many people have fled the hood.

00:33:38.160 What was so weird to me is that half the houses on the street were empty.

00:33:44.660 And they were either falling down like trees growing in them, or drug users or homeless people were in the abandoned houses.

00:33:53.260 That's a problem bigger than what a neighborhood can solve on its own.

00:33:57.300 And shame on the Democrats for letting the city go that way. 0.93

00:34:00.040 And you know it's the same in urban slums in other Democrat-run cities like Detroit or parts of Chicago or D.C. itself.

00:34:10.440 Well, that was the show yesterday.

00:34:12.560 That was my trip.

00:34:13.480 I'm glad to have done it.

00:34:14.640 I hope to do other shows from the road.

00:34:16.620 I wasn't great at holding the selfie stick level and steady, but I'll get better over time, I hope.

00:34:22.060 All right, folks, until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.

00:34:27.020 And keep fighting for freedom.

00:34:30.040 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - August 07, 2019

Kim Campbell has gone mad — So why is Trudeau letting her choose our judges？

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