00:03:32.020Look, this is positive. And as usual, the details matter, but they're absolutely going in the right direction.
00:03:37.820Our very first study at the Aristotle Foundation in 2023 was on diversity, equity, and inclusion, which sounds nice as a buzzword.
00:03:45.500But what it usually means is in practice, and it's always meant in practice, along with affirmative action from the 1980s and employment equity, is that you're going back to discriminating based on how people look.
00:03:58.400and i thought we got past this by the 1960s 1970s and then all of a sudden these ideas came up
00:04:04.560that well you know um you know differences and outcomes between different groups must be due to
00:04:09.760past racism as if educational levels as if time spent in a country as if the average age of a
00:04:16.000cohort doesn't matter so this stuff has been going on for a very long time under different
00:04:20.800names and by the way it's all american in origin which is very ironic canada first approached this
00:04:26.880sort of issue in the 1980s with employment equity but that was two decades after the civil rights
00:04:31.600era in the united states where they introduced affirmative action now plenty of people have
00:04:36.080sincere beliefs that this is the way to make up for past discrimination but the problem is you
00:04:40.560can't make up for past discrimination in most cases by using new discrimination there are other things
00:04:45.760you can do like making sure you provide opportunity to everyone regardless of how they look or where
00:04:50.160they come from or how long you've been in the country but you really can't make up for past
00:04:55.040discrimination, and it punishes a new generation based on some ostensible and sometimes real sins
00:05:00.580of past generations. But yeah, so this is very positive that a provincial government in Canada
00:05:06.280looks at DEI and says, we kind of prefer individual opportunity, merit, character,
00:05:11.940that sort of thing when we hire. So the details matter, but it's a positive step.
00:05:17.960Yeah, I mean, it feels as though this is just the age-old bigotry of low expectations,
00:05:23.940But in this circumstance, it cuts both ways because it's built on the premise that women and sexual and racial minorities need help because they can't achieve on their own.
00:05:38.220And it also means that the employer or the bureaucracy or whatever would not hire a woman or person of minority, even though they are qualified.
00:05:50.140So you need to have these mandates and quotas.
00:05:52.760so it's it's it cuts both ways with the bigotry uh i'll go to kirk yeah it's it's it's a fantastic
00:06:00.340move i absolutely applaud it obviously it's not as uh as intense as it could have been they could
00:06:06.680have really gone after it but it's still a good a really good step let's remember there's full
00:06:12.380there's huge programs around in canada that fund people based on their skin color it's it's
00:06:18.720absolutely insanity and there's this expectations for really is building things just based on the
00:06:28.500way people look it's just it's insulting to everyone to every single taxpayer to every single
00:06:33.400person works in a company and the best part about this bill i think in general from coming from the
00:06:38.720corporate world is the the fact that they people will not have to participate in dei training it
00:06:46.060is absolutely the most in insane things i've ever seen in the corporate world when a complete waste
00:06:52.840of money and you know hr resources and everything else and you sit there and the most awkward thing
00:06:58.380getting blamed and vilified just because you're your skin color to favor other people it's so
00:07:04.420putting that away is one of the best things ever and we finally will see institutions in alberta
00:07:10.480And it should really go Canada wide competing for talent based on ability and not if they're in a wheelchair or if they're not the color of the skin or where they were born.
00:07:38.740And, I mean, we've already seen the wailing and the gnashing of the teeth from the gender sciences and gender studies professors, particularly those from British Columbia.0.89
00:07:48.080But it is true. I mean, if you want an efficient government, this is something that makes government less efficient and more expensive.0.59
00:07:59.640Oh, without question. And not only does this interrupt sort of the DEI hiring process, it interrupts the DEI promotion process within the institutions. So for the last 20 years, if you wanted to succeed in a public institution, you had to do the DEI song and dance. And that was a real easy way for DEI advocates to only promote within their own circles.
00:08:25.640circles. So this made it a really, really incestuous, closed atmosphere, which has contributed to the
00:08:33.080meltdown of our public institutions. This is a really great first start, but breaking up those
00:08:38.840DEI networks within the public institutions, that's as imperative as this law in itself.
00:08:46.420Yes. We've got our freelancer, Corey Morgan, at the press conference yesterday. And this is clip three, Olivia. And he asks Premier Daniel Smith about some comments that NDP leader Nahid Nenshi has made about DEI.
00:09:20.360Premier Smith, opposition leader in the head and end, she recently said merit is code for not hiring ethnic people or women.
00:09:28.400How do you respond to people who are sure to be implying the new policies are intolerant or even bigoted?
00:09:35.220Well, we have had merit-based hiring in the Alberta Public Service ever since Dale McPhee came on board.
00:09:40.800but keep in mind that only applies to the uh those who are employed by the government of
00:09:47.820alberta directly and i would just invite you to look at the the diversity that we have not only
00:09:53.860with women being hired but also those of diverse backgrounds just since we've had this policy
00:10:00.020in place it's a it's a priority for us to make sure that the public service is reflective of
00:10:05.140the people that they serve but every single person who's been hired can feel confident that
00:10:09.500they were the best person for the job and that's what we want so this is now extending that policy
00:10:13.260that we've had in place for some time to all of the institutions that we govern and as minister
00:10:19.480amory said if somebody feels that they've been discriminated against then there is still the
00:10:24.340avenue of the human rights commission to pursue it okay with the government uh just to go further
00:10:30.860will the government release demograph okay we've got we'll show that second clip but um her eyeballs
00:10:37.720when cory asked that question about you know like nahi nenshi says this is just an excuse0.99
00:10:46.760to not hire you know racial minorities or women i mean it's outlandish um our premier is a woman
00:10:54.300by the way uh i'll go to mark yeah the assumption that that the opposition leader has has been
00:11:02.860flawed for some time and i tangled with uh with the former mayor of calgary now opposition leader
00:11:07.740probably about 10 years ago in this issue when he blamed basically hinted during it during election
00:11:12.620campaign that you know before 2010 when he was elected mayor of calgary uh calgarians were some
00:11:18.620troglodytes or something um what he does is what a lot of people do is they assume that um without
00:11:25.740government interfering and saying you must hire based on some irrelevant characteristic to your
00:11:31.260job, like your skin, color, ethnicity, that you wouldn't be hired. Well, that actually is not the
00:11:35.780case. I mean, first of all, there's a couple of things to remember. Discrimination based on how
00:11:40.320you look, who you are, your faith has been illegal in Canada since the 1950s. Ontario started to
00:11:46.520outlaw discrimination based on sex and your color in 1951 and 1952. So it's been illegal to do that
00:11:55.380for a very long time in Canada, and people seem to forget that. And also, who are some of the most
00:12:01.580successful Canadians these days by ancestry, if we have to mention ancestry? East Asian Canadians.
00:12:07.040Why? Because they have the highest educational levels. Or when you do apple-to-apple comparisons,
00:12:12.200you find out that Indigenous Canadians, for example, do just fine when you do apple-to-apple
00:12:17.520comparisons. What I mean by that is if you're educated, you're between 18 and 34, you've got
00:12:23.200a bachelor's degree, you're indigenous or non-indigenous, you earn pretty much the same
00:12:27.280income working full year full time. And why is that? Because you made an apple to apple comparison.
00:12:32.280And what those who like DI mistakenly think it's helpful, what they don't get is that you have to
00:12:39.360make those apple to apple comparisons. It's not the personal prejudices disappeared. But look,
00:12:44.320it's been against the law to discriminate based on how you look for, again, 70 years in some cases,
00:12:50.440in some provinces. So I just think Nahid Nenshi doesn't actually understand the dynamics of
00:12:54.700geography, education, you know, for immigrants, the time spent in the country. And there's all
00:13:00.340sorts of reasons why cohorts differ. One quick example, Thomas Sowell used to tell this example
00:13:05.280of, you know, the fishing industry worldwide was heavily dominated by the Italians historically,
00:13:11.160not the Swiss. And if you take kind of the critical theory of DEI approach, it's like,
00:13:15.140oh, we must be discriminated against the Swiss. No, the Italians have coastlines. That's why
00:13:20.180they dominated the fishing sector so people make all sorts of weird assumptions that they don't
00:13:24.940think through and that's what the opposition leader did uh kirk yeah listen they i couldn't
00:13:33.940care less what nahi nanshi says it's just it's the same old you know he's basically dependent
00:13:39.320on two things one is lies and the other thing is outrage the guy has been voted not only as
00:13:45.480NDP party leader but he's also been Calgary's mayor one of the worst ones with the worst record
00:13:51.340probably out of any politician in Canada as far as running anything and it's uh and let's forget0.92
00:13:59.260he's uh he's a minority by himself you know he happens to be gay and he's still complaining0.97
00:14:05.400about DEI and things are not fair it's it's just it's absolute nonsense it's just the good old0.99
00:14:10.600same old tired whistles that we hear from that side lice yeah well the only people that are
00:14:17.380complaining about this are the people that are seeing their gravy train getting derailed
00:14:21.280aren't they like the only people that this this is being sort of embraced by the canadian well
00:14:28.640by the alberta public at least as a really common sense move that had to happen because because we've
00:14:34.740seen the overreach in this capacity in DEI in our public institutions and the only people
00:14:41.000complaining are the people that are going to get defunded cry harder you know it doesn't make any
00:14:46.520sense if I can just add to it there's a whole bunch of institutions that have we need to bring
00:14:51.920x amount of black people to vp's positions or senior position we have to bring x amount of0.97
00:14:57.120indigenous how do you build an organization based on those parameters it's absolutely ludicrous0.79
00:15:03.520even to put the hr position in forget about the overall integrity of the institution and
00:15:09.640performance was just the putting the hr into hire manager in that position it's like um sorry we
00:15:15.680have to find someone you know to fit this mold that has nothing to do with performance
00:15:20.240well sorry go ahead well it begs the question how much is how much has dei cost us over the
00:15:28.780decades that it was implemented? Like really, what was the real cost to Canadian taxpayers
00:15:33.940to uphold this and to fund this through all of these various systems for this many years? I think
00:15:39.820we're going to watch Alberta succeed. I think we're going to watch them get efficient. And I
00:15:43.720think we're going to see other provinces do the same. Just watch. From your lips to God's ears.
00:15:48.280Now, our Corey Morgan also asked the Premier if the province would release the demographic
00:15:54.060data on the hiring just so we could see how it changes or how it's been manipulated through
00:16:00.600these hiring practices and she has kind of a funny answer because as she said the government itself
00:16:06.680has been hiring merit-based because they don't care about this stuff it's not relevant to the
00:16:13.220execution of government and it shouldn't be um and you know she points out just how absurd it all is
00:16:20.100I don't think that we track people based on race within our system.
00:16:33.440I could check with Dale McPhee if that's the case, but it would be an odd thing, I think,
00:16:39.040for us to track our employees on that basis.
00:16:42.520And so I think what we would like to do is be able to have an avenue.
00:16:45.660if somebody does feel that they have been treated unfairly then they still can go to the human rights
00:16:51.760commission but we want to make sure that in applications or calls for resumes that there
00:16:57.240aren't any of these characteristics that that create discrimination and we want to make sure
00:17:01.360that when training occurs that it's relevant to the position that they're going to be holding
00:17:07.000and that's why mandatory uh dei training will also be removed and we'll be making sure that
00:17:12.640And the training that is mandatory is relevant to the position.
00:17:18.760So no more struggle sessions for people, which is great.
00:17:23.840But, you know, it's refreshing to see how odd she thought that just tracking people like new hires based on race or promotions based on race.
00:17:48.960There was a wonderful study, I think it was in 2019 or 2020, by the British government when Boris Johnson was prime minister.
00:17:56.120And they hired a whole whack of people, I think it was like 50 of them scholars, to go through this accusation.
00:18:01.000You know, is the British public service or is Britain basically just a racist haven?
00:18:05.160And the conclusion they found, by the way, most of the participants in this 50 page or 50 scholar study that came out were not, you know, my skin color.
00:18:16.060And what they found was was pretty interesting.
00:18:18.420But if you've ever followed Thomas Sowell and his arguments, United States or this debate up here around the world, you wouldn't be surprised.
00:18:24.940What they found, for example, was no, look, the British public is, first of all, on a personal level, hardly the racism that existed 50 years ago has pretty much disappeared.
00:18:33.140People don't care who they marry and their son or daughter's skin color, that sort of thing. But more importantly, in terms of the public service, because they do track it in Great Britain, they found interesting little stats that revealed, like, show us the prejudice. So, for example, the National Health Service, NHS, is composed of 40% minority. But minorities, I hate that word, but for lack of a better term, comprised 12% of the British population at the time.
00:18:57.560So again, show us the institutional prejudice, because this is always the accusation, systemic or institutional racism. We actually got rid of systemic and institutional racism starting in the 1950s. That doesn't mean you can't meet a bigot today, but it's been outlawed for decades. And that's what proponents either don't admit, don't understand, or don't think about.
00:19:17.080at least go ahead no i was uh that's fascinating that the nhs stats fleshed it out like that but
00:19:26.500if they is there a reason why we're not why we're not uh why we're not uh finding out
00:19:36.340maybe not as a maybe not as a as a condition of employment but is would the government not
00:19:42.920track these things they track them in schools okay school children are are specified down to
00:19:49.800their their every single detail so are we not doing this in the public sector in other ways
00:19:55.400for instance are there not working groups in public institutions that serve a certain segment
00:20:01.620of the racial population and and you know if they are doing that would this be eliminated
00:20:08.340with this policy change well and i think the proof is in the details right and in the execution
00:20:15.400so um we know that there is a fair bit of institutional rot left over from the 2015 to
00:20:24.4602019 hiring blitz for the public sector done by the ndp here in alberta and a lot of that was
00:20:32.120uh DEI busybodies and if those people still exist on the payroll if you're not watching closely
00:20:38.880they will still be doing these things and so I think there has to be some weeding out
00:20:44.300there's a fast way to be able to identify people on the DEI it's in their email signatures if it
00:20:50.580has pronouns in the in your email signatures okay you're captured I think that's an easy way to tell
00:20:56.220Danielle Smith if you're looking okay go ahead there are there are some by the way federally
00:21:02.880um on this sort of thing they've been tracking I don't have them in front of me but they do
00:21:07.620track this in terms of you know occupations who's in what but again often what it shows is
00:21:11.580um you know you would expect that again cohorts that have higher education would you know be
00:21:17.740overrepresented in a good sense um in a particular occupation so you might find again East Asian
00:21:23.580Canadians, Canadians of East Asian ancestry, highly represented in some cohort. In some
00:21:28.920professions like nursing or teaching or others, or even law school admissions these days, I think
00:21:33.620women are far and above of the 50 or 51% they represent in the general population. So all that's0.99
00:21:39.440to the good. But it's, yeah, the basic assumption of DI, the reason it's so offensive, it's not just
00:21:45.980because you're picking and winning based on irrelevant characteristics. It's that you're
00:21:50.000you're you're saying to people um this is your identity based on your skin color well what if
00:21:55.340you were like a you know a woman in british columbia whose ancestry is half chinese ethnicity
00:22:00.680half caucasian you're a business person maybe you're a woman of the faith what is maybe you're
00:22:05.700a mother and you're you're a successful entrepreneur and the government is coming
00:22:09.580to you telling telling you that we think your primary identity is how you look and even there
00:22:14.380it's complicated do you choose the caucasian side the chinese ancestry side do you choose the
00:22:19.840fact that you're an entrepreneur or a mother like what is your primary identity and governments and
00:22:24.900others step in and say we think this is how you should be defined says who so that's the problem
00:22:29.500of dei it traps you in some weird category that you may not agree with uh kirk go ahead
00:22:36.140if you look at the hiring uh ads of city of calgary and places like this they have dei
00:22:43.540uh pledge of allegiance essentially right into them so a lot of those institutions do fill them
00:22:49.480I mean, there was just a job posted on the city of Calgary a couple months ago.
00:22:54.580They're looking for someone to essentially rearrange furniture to satisfy DEI work environment.
00:23:05.900And I just want to add another thing.0.78
00:23:07.620Let's just remember the DEI is basically, let's just call it what it is, an anti-white movement.
00:23:13.540There is too many white people, according to some people, in an institution.0.90
00:23:17.920So we have to hire people that don't look like white.0.75
00:23:21.660But many parts of Canada now, the white population is in the minority.
00:23:27.320And DI does not work for the white side.
00:23:29.600Nobody is saying, okay, we need to hire X amounts of white males1.00
00:23:33.040or X amounts of white female mothers into these roles.
00:23:37.940So by definition, it's racist against a specific part of our population.
00:23:45.100um gentlemen i realize we promised you the first half an hour do you have a couple more minutes
00:23:50.880because okay perfect can we go to olivia please and thanks um this on the saskatchewan topic
00:23:59.860video one um wab canoe this week mused about ending the indian act and uh scott mo said
00:24:10.460yesterday that he likely agrees with the prime minister um about modernizing the indian act so
00:24:18.480let's just show that clip and i'd love to hear what mark milkey has to say
00:24:21.800yeah um you know i i i likely uh agree with the prime minister when he said uh uh he he you know
00:24:38.580He would look to co-formulating or in collaboration, putting together a process if it was necessary and if it was desired to modernize the Indian Act.
00:24:53.520And I think before you even start talking about what that modernized legislation might look like, if the federal government was to go that way, that you very much have the discussion about what the process is to determine what that legislation might look like.
00:25:08.620So this would be a significant undertaking in collaboration.
00:25:14.060It would be a significant undertaking in the effort by the federal government
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00:32:06.880all right uh staying on saskatchewan you guys have introduced your own version of the critical
00:32:16.640Infrastructure Defense Act. Yes, you did. I wrote it up this morning for the website.
00:32:25.080Scott Moe remarked on it yesterday. Now, the Critical Infrastructure Defense Act in Alberta,
00:32:31.260great law in theory. Oh, my internet is terrible. It was great law in theory. It would stop people
00:32:39.200from blocking highways in protest of, let's say, pipelines. It would stop protests at pipeline
00:32:46.400infrastructure work sites after a marauding gang of maniacs attacked the uh coastal gas
00:32:56.800link site in british columbia and we thought not today satan not here unfortunately jason
00:33:01.700kenny used it on pastor arthur poloski for giving a sermon at the coops border you know so
00:33:07.620them sorts them sorts have two sides right they're sharp on both sides and they can they can be
00:33:14.000is applied but in Saskatchewan right now there's a little labor dispute brewing uh at the co-op
00:33:19.380refinery in North Regina again oh and this has been a spicy developing story over years and years
00:33:26.520and years and years um it sounds as though they are moving a work camp in to cover the labor
00:33:33.460disputes so they're gonna bring in replacement workers house them right on the facility grounds
00:33:39.300And this is after the last labor dispute where strikers probably maybe should have been arrested and weren't. And so this is the co-op we're applying in kind. And so this is really interesting that this legislation, did you say Sheila Gunn-Reed?
00:33:56.120yes it's it's it's going to be tabled um Scott Moe remarked on it yesterday yeah from what I
00:34:02.720understand that co-op that dispute not between co-op um but well I guess between co-op and
00:34:08.940Unifor yes that is yes Unifor um has been brewing since I don't know February of 2020
00:34:17.580and now they are like Scott Moe is worried about an illegal blockade there preventing fuel from
00:34:28.560getting to the rest of the province and so he has introduced this piece of legislation so
00:34:35.000let's hear from Scott Moe. Well in Saskatchewan and across Canada we've seen on numerous occasions
00:34:42.060where rail lines or roads have been blocked for whatever you know disagreement that might
00:34:47.740be occurring there's an opportunity for discussions when there is a you know a
00:34:51.980disagreement that comes between a certain entity whether it be the government the private sector
00:34:56.620or community but that is not by illegal blockades yeah we have seen illegal blockades in this
00:35:02.780province and we've seen illegal blockades across canada pardon me i think uh just over a decade
00:35:09.660ago we saw a northern road that was blocked and not too long ago we saw a rail line that was
00:35:13.660attempted to be blocked here in uh in the city of regina um and we uh you know across canada we've
00:35:19.740seen we've seen that as well and so what we're doing is enhancing the current legislation that
00:35:24.300we have uh to be responsive and and part of our broader effort initiative to keep our our community
00:35:29.660safe and to keep our economy and communities operating is uh to you know to strengthen the
00:35:35.420tools that law enforcement have, to strengthen the tools that they have so that they can
00:35:39.740do their work effectively in keeping families and communities operating and safe, but also
00:36:00.480The journalist was, I mean, if you are in news, you should know that there have been ongoing problems at the co-op refinery.
00:36:09.720Now they're threatening to blockade fuel coming out of there.
00:36:12.140In 2021, in northern Manitoba, a First Nation blocked a company's access to a uranium mine there.
00:36:20.420And then right now in northern Manitoba, there is a First Nations blockade of access to land that is being used by hunters and they're not allowing hunters on.
00:36:39.720So, and it's, these lands are open to everybody and the First Nation has unilaterally, three of them actually, and quite frankly, arbitrarily blocked access to, I guess, non-First Nations hunters.