Rebel News Podcast - Leftist mob want co-founder of Greenpeace Dr. Patrick Moore banned from sustainability conference

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Dr. Patrick Moore, the co-founder of Greenpeace, is being deplatformed.

00:00:05.360 They haven't quite done it yet, but they're trying to cancel a speech he's giving in Regina,

00:00:09.860 Saskatchewan. Just some incredible defamation of him by both the media and academia, and the

00:00:17.480 mayor there too, frankly. I'll go through it for you. Before I do, let me invite you to become a

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00:00:49.360 Tonight, a leftist mob of journalists and professors tries to get the co-founder of Greenpeace banned

00:00:54.900 from a speaking invitation. Why are they afraid to let them speak? It's February 4th,

00:00:59.800 and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:03.440 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:07.180 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:11.260 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:01:16.120 right to do so.

00:01:22.080 If I told you that the co-founder of Greenpeace was the subject of a deplatforming campaign,

00:01:29.160 you know what I mean, when people try to ban you, cancel you, have you fired, have your contracts

00:01:34.740 ripped up, have you defamed, you might say, hang on, I thought that was only what the left did.

00:01:40.580 Banning the Greenpeace co-founder? Were conservatives really doing that to an environmentalist?

00:01:46.740 Well, you'd be right. I've never, not once in my life, ever heard of a deplatforming campaign

00:01:51.100 committed by conservatives against liberals. I just haven't. Have you? Not even on campus,

00:01:55.840 not in the media, not at any event, anywhere that I can think of, and I keep an eye peeled.

00:02:00.900 That's a tactic of the left. It's Leninist. It's brutal. This story I'm telling you only makes

00:02:06.960 sense when you know that the co-founder of Greenpeace we're talking about here is our friend

00:02:11.660 Patrick Moore. Moore was there at the very beginning of Greenpeace. He was on the boat

00:02:18.780 sailing to protect the whales. That's him right there in the center to stop hydrogen bombs. Look 0.91

00:02:24.440 at him there. That sort of thing. He was, there he is. He really cares about those things. But over time,

00:02:31.540 he became skeptical of Greenpeace's political extremism and their rejection of science. That's

00:02:40.140 the thing. He was the only PhD in the first crew of Greenpeace. So he knows his stuff, but they've

00:02:46.520 moved into politics and socialism and junk science. He parted ways with them when they declared war. I

00:02:52.160 think it was on chlorine. Now, of course, chlorine is one of the most essential elements. You may know

00:02:57.960 that salt is called sodium chloride. Chlorine is half that molecule. We need chlorine for a range of

00:03:06.340 things, including many important medicines. We put chlorine in swimming pools to kill bacteria. I think

00:03:12.500 that's when he pulled away from Greenpeace, if I recall, when they went to war against a natural

00:03:17.640 element that we need for medicine. He also supports peaceful atomic energy, which he points out has no

00:03:24.120 greenhouse gas emissions, if you care about that kind of thing. Patrick Moore departs from Greenpeace

00:03:29.420 on that. He's still a save the whales guy, though. Very strong on those sorts of things. He's just not

00:03:34.880 a communist kook like the rest of his former team. So yeah, he's the one environmental activist in the 0.99

00:03:41.120 world who gets banned from places. So he was invited to speak at a sustainability conference

00:03:46.380 in Regina, Saskatchewan, which is a pretty good place to invite a speaker who supports safe,

00:03:52.740 clean nuclear energy. Because of course, Saskatchewan, as you probably know, is a major producer of

00:03:58.540 uranium. And that's used in peaceful nuclear reactors. And unlike wind turbines, nuclear reactors

00:04:05.020 work when it's not windy or when it's too windy. And unlike solar panels, nuclear reactors work when it's

00:04:11.220 not sunny, you know, like, like at night. So yeah, I mean, I don't know exactly what the word

00:04:16.980 sustainable means to any given person. But if you think it means something about carbon dioxide,

00:04:22.000 and if you're worried that burning fossil fuels releases carbon dioxide, and if you think that's

00:04:26.740 bad, which is nuts, by the way, but still, then you probably should like nuclear because it generates

00:04:33.360 heat from a nuclear reaction. It's not burning stuff and emitting CO2. There's no CO2 involved.

00:04:38.940 It's a different reaction altogether. That is, if you really do care about carbon dioxide. And I know

00:04:45.400 that you don't because everything in life is carbon based, including you and me and all plants and

00:04:50.440 animals and wood and most of our planet. Carbon is the sixth element in the periodic table. It's in

00:04:58.120 almost everything. So it's all just a scam to levy carbon taxes. But if you really do say you're

00:05:04.080 worried about carbon dioxide, and I know you're not, then nuclear is really the only real option,

00:05:10.920 at least in a flat place like Saskatchewan, where there aren't mighty raging rivers for

00:05:15.620 hydroelectric dams. So yeah, Patrick Moore, the perfect choice to speak in this conference. But see,

00:05:22.180 he disputes that carbon dioxide is a problem. He doesn't dispute that the climate changes.

00:05:27.900 That's absurd that the climate changes all the time, always has. If you've ever heard of the ice

00:05:32.340 ages and know that North America was once covered in a sheet of ice, and you can see that we're not

00:05:37.100 now, then you know about climate change. Patrick Moore, Dr. Moore, let's just be accurate,

00:05:43.200 just says it's not related to carbon dioxide and certainly not to man-made carbon dioxide. That's

00:05:48.420 not what ended the last major glaciation, as it's called, when we were covered in a mile of ice until

00:05:53.740 about 10,000 years ago. What I was showing you there was one of Dr. Moore's slides from his

00:05:58.060 presentation where he talks about climate change. He's not against talking about climate change,

00:06:03.660 he just explains it like a scientist, not a politician. I have to tell you, he's a very

00:06:08.660 interesting speaker. And you can tell he still deeply cares about the environment. He understands

00:06:14.320 the cycles of nature. He understands how trees are important. He's got a whole book on the subject.

00:06:20.640 Trees are the answer. How it's fine to use wood, because it's renewable. We can plant more trees.

00:06:27.200 How plastic is non-toxic? It's low emission. I mean, he's thinking practically, which most

00:06:32.480 environmentalists never do. And he, most important proves, at least I think he proves it, that man-made

00:06:38.960 global warming is just not a thing. It's not the reason, or at least it's not a significant reason,

00:06:44.000 why the globe is very slowly warming. And it's not from carbon dioxide. And in fact, the world has

00:06:51.120 too little carbon dioxide from the point of view of successful plant life. When you look over the

00:06:56.340 millions of years of life on Earth, we're starving of carbon dioxide now. Now, I'm not

00:07:02.200 doing his point of view justice, because I'm not a PhD in ecology. He is, so listen to him.

00:07:07.820 I've seen his presentations. He actually came on one of our Rebel cruises, our first Rebel cruise. It was

00:07:12.520 amazing. I wish more people could see his presentation, including leftists and students

00:07:18.140 and environmental activists. Either they would criticize Dr. Moore's point of view and challenge

00:07:23.440 it, and maybe Dr. Moore might improve his theory. I don't know. That's the scientific method, right?

00:07:28.460 Put out a hypothesis and test it and change your hypothesis. Or maybe, what I think, he would actually

00:07:35.240 convince those environmental activists of his point of view. And they would certainly come away

00:07:39.500 understanding how deeply he cares about the environment. I can sure sense it. But look,

00:07:45.060 leftist protesters are not interested in learning or science. They're interested in power.

00:07:50.180 So look at this. Regina paying climate crisis skeptic $10,000 to speak at a sustainability conference.

00:07:59.620 Look at it. Put sustainability in scare quotes. My first thought upon seeing that in the CBC

00:08:04.580 state broadcaster was, he's only speaking for $10,000? The CBC's own David Suzuki charges $30,000.

00:08:12.920 And Dr. Moore actually is a subject matter expert. See, when was the last time that the CBC did a

00:08:18.760 shock and awe story about any left-winger giving a speech on campus? Is the $10,000 part supposed to be

00:08:26.420 the scandal? If so, why the silence when Suzuki does it? When multimillionaire Justin Trudeau charged

00:08:33.140 actual charities $25,000 a pop for speeches even after he became an MP. Why are they suddenly

00:08:39.300 interested in that? Look at this. You of our scientists dismayed by Citi's decision to have

00:08:46.920 Patrick Moore speak at conference. Do you see that sub-headline there? Well then, a scientist is

00:08:52.540 dismayed. Better censor someone with a different point of view then, because a scientist says so.

00:08:58.660 I'm embarrassed for the University of Regina that that's their contribution to this news,

00:09:03.100 calling for censorship, because someone has a different point of view. But get this.

00:09:07.800 A former Greenpeace director who disputes there's a climate emergency and that man-made carbon

00:09:13.920 emissions are harmful has the top billing at the city of Regina's upcoming conference on future

00:09:18.160 sustainability. Oh, so it's not even just that he's a skeptic of the theory of man-made global warming,

00:09:23.980 or the theory that carbon dioxide is the control knob of the climate, as Professor Al Gore told us.

00:09:29.700 It's that Dr. Moore is skeptical that there is a climate emergency, climate emergency. That's a

00:09:35.700 political phrase. That's a slogan. That's a bumper sticker phrase. That's hyperbole, of course.

00:09:40.000 Emergency, emergency. Is there an emergency? Really? So they're not even pretending anymore at the CBC.

00:09:45.720 If you don't support the official Liberal Party of Canada talking points, not just the science,

00:09:50.180 but the political talking points. Emergency. Is emergency science? I mean, if you don't do that,

00:09:57.320 you're unacceptable in the eyes of the state broadcaster and the state university, the

00:10:02.320 University of Regina. The government doesn't like you if you don't agree with them, but of course.

00:10:06.760 And look at that. Look at that. If you look on the page there, scroll down, the state broadcaster

00:10:11.500 posts a tweet by a U.S.-based anti-oil lobby group called DeSmogBlog, not even pretending to be

00:10:17.720 anything more than a political megaphone for the extreme left, the anti-oil left. Why is that

00:10:22.480 being promoted by the CBC state broadcaster? But if you think the CBC state broadcaster is bad,

00:10:29.360 look at this from the bailout newspapers, the Regina Leader Post, allegedly a private sector

00:10:35.540 newspaper company, but not anymore. Post Media that owns it receives $140,000 per week

00:10:42.620 from Trudeau's media bailout fund. And boy, are they earning every cent of it in Regina. Let me

00:10:49.420 quote, climate change denier, Patrick Moore, to speak at Regina Sustainability Conference.

00:10:56.620 Yeah, no, he's not a climate change denier. I've seen his talk. This is one of his slides.

00:11:03.520 All he talks about is climate change and trying to explain it and understand it.

00:11:10.020 Why were there glaciers and there's not now? Saying he's a climate change denier is a 100%

00:11:17.820 pure lie from a stupid person. The city of Regina, let me quote, the city of Regina is defending its

00:11:26.160 decision to hire a well-known climate change denier to speak at his upcoming Sustainability

00:11:31.820 Conference. Really? Well-known climate change denier. You lying liar with your lies.

00:11:40.020 They quote some crank. Channon Zekidniak, the founder of a local environmental organization.

00:11:47.480 Hey guys, hey guys, she founded EnviroCollective, so listen to her. She said her group would like to

00:11:52.800 see more removed from the agenda. The objective of this conference is to set the framework to make

00:11:58.860 Regina 100% renewable by 2050. It is not helpful to have someone who disputes the science behind

00:12:05.100 climate change. Being one of the prominent speakers of that event, said Zekidniak during a phone interview.

00:12:10.880 I bet they phoned her. Of course they did. So some local activist extremist thinks someone else should 0.57

00:12:18.900 be banned from speaking because he's not helpful to her cause. By the way, her cause is nuts. 0.87

00:12:24.740 I'd like to invite anyone in Saskatchewan who wants to get rid of fossil fuels and nuclear fuels to leave

00:12:33.380 my example today and turn off the gas to your home and stop driving your car when it's what? I don't

00:12:40.680 know. I didn't check the weather in Saskatchewan today. Is it minus 20? Is it minus 30? I checked it. It

00:12:45.520 was minus 39 in Tuktoyaktuk. It's probably only minus 20 in Saskatchewan. You go first, lady. 0.99

00:12:53.880 It has been that cold this winter. I mean, talk about nuts. But what you see here is a confection,

00:12:59.740 a recipe. You're watching fake news, political meddling being made in real time. It's being

00:13:05.080 cooked up. There's no grassroots way to have Dr. Moore deplatformed. To be fair, most people in

00:13:10.820 Regina have never heard of Dr. Moore, and I bet most who have heard of him will probably be

00:13:14.880 interested in hearing from him, aren't you? Co-founder of Greenpeace, who has a bit of a

00:13:18.780 change of heart, still believes in whales and seals and stuff, is pro-nuclear, but is worried about

00:13:24.680 this. He's just such an interesting guy. You don't want to hear him? And those who don't want to hear

00:13:29.980 him, so what? So go see one of the countless left-wing, think-alike, talk-alike, global warming

00:13:36.120 profiteers out there. I'm sure Al Gore will be around soon enough. There is no mob with pitchforks

00:13:41.980 trying to get this guy canceled. There's just a few losers on the CBC reporter's speed dial.

00:13:47.760 A few losers on Twitter and a bored academic looking for some media coverage to feel relevant.

00:13:53.160 Yeah, we don't censor people for not being helpful, except that the CBC's mission is to turn that into

00:13:59.480 a thing, this whole thing into a thing, because the CBC is a state broadcaster whose own survival is

00:14:04.640 linked to pleasing Justin Trudeau. So step one was to demonize Dr. Moore. Step two was to call for him

00:14:11.880 to be fired. I've seen the CBC do this many times. So the CBC makes the complaint, and then the CBC

00:14:18.660 reports on its own complaint, as if it weren't a central force behind confecting it. Look at this.

00:14:24.380 Regina now reviewing decision to pay $10,000 to Patrick Moore for a talk at a sustainability

00:14:29.620 conference. Look at this. Oh, this is my favorite. Outcry and controversy prompts review. Yeah, no,

00:14:35.880 you lying liars. It is not an outcry. It is not a controversy. It's you. It's you, the CBC, and the

00:14:42.560 rest of your little media party club. You turn off your gas right now. I've seen this sort of thing

00:14:49.260 myself. Do you remember when I went to the UK about a year ago covering Tommy Robinson's case in court,

00:14:53.940 and there was this BBC reporter, I remember his name was Dominique Cassiani, and he reported me

00:14:59.700 to the police, literally, to the Metropolitan Police of London, because I made a little video

00:15:06.000 about Tommy. So this BBC reporter, the state broadcaster over there, complained about me to

00:15:11.360 the police. I have a copy of his complaint. And then that same BBC reporter called me for comment

00:15:18.280 about the complaint that he made to the police, as if he weren't manufacturing the story, as if he

00:15:25.500 were some neutral reporter. That's deeply unethical, of course, for a real journalist, but government

00:15:31.200 journalists aren't real journalists. And the CBC is full of Dominique Cassiani's. I'm not saying the

00:15:36.640 private sector journalists in Canada are any better on global warming. The Regina Leader Post article was

00:15:41.460 outright defamatory, to be honest. But remember, Trudeau owns the CBC. He only rents Post Media. Frankly,

00:15:48.860 that makes Post Media journalists more nervous, because they worry that maybe their annual bailout won't be

00:15:53.540 renewed. Whereas at the CBC, they know it will be. Can't trust the media party. 90% of them are on the

00:16:00.420 payroll. Here's a global news story. Regina reviewing decision to hire climate skeptic Patrick Moore for

00:16:07.920 keynote speech. Now, global is not owned by the state, and it's not a newspaper on the bailout. But it is

00:16:14.380 highly regulated by the CRTC, and must win the approval of Trudeau constantly. CRTC has the power to

00:16:21.420 literally destroy media outlets, if it doesn't like, by either changing the terms of their media

00:16:25.820 license, or removing it altogether. Seriously, in Canada, you need a license to make a TV show on

00:16:31.300 real TV or radio. It's how the CRTC killed Sun News Network. So, global and CTV, they have to behave

00:16:38.260 how Trudeau wants them to behave. So, look at this. He also holds controversial views about the shrinking

00:16:46.580 polar bear population, the death of the Great Barrier Reef and the Great Pacific Garbage Patch.

00:16:51.540 Now, I'm pretty familiar with the first of those, polar bears. I happen to know that the polar bear

00:16:58.180 population is actually exploding, thriving, growing, whatever you want to call it. So, right there,

00:17:08.220 global news, well, they're lying to you, obviously, but not only are they lying, they're accusing Dr.

00:17:14.460 Moore of lying about polar bears when he speaks the truth about it. They're lying liars, and they're

00:17:19.180 telling lies. And listen to this wording. Global News spoke with Moore on Monday morning, asking him

00:17:25.900 what he thinks about the controversy swirling around him. What controversy? I mean, I get it. A handful of

00:17:32.200 left-wing journalists are whipping up a fake storm. Controversy swirling. I love that. I wonder if a single

00:17:38.360 normal person has even weighed in on this. It's 100% fake news by activists and media party advocates.

00:17:46.160 The mayor said, while some of his views are fine, oh, good, I have the approval of a mayor. Oh, thank

00:17:52.300 God, I was waiting for that. Some of Moore's other views are problematic. Fougere, that's the name of the

00:17:59.420 mayor, emphasized the city believes there is a climate issue, a severe one. Got it. Got it. So,

00:18:08.300 we have a mayor deciding which opinions are acceptable and which are problematic. Is that his job?

00:18:15.980 Is that constitutional for him to do? Is he willing to go head-to-head with Dr. Moore in a debate about

00:18:23.020 global warming? Now, that's a debate I'd pay to see in a kind of stare-at-a-car-crash kind of way.

00:18:30.060 Oh, man. There's a severe climate issue, is there? Yeah, I agree. It's damn cold in Saskatchewan. We

00:18:37.380 got us a severe climate issue, people. But then again, it is winter, so that severe climate issue

00:18:43.200 comes around once a year. Global then quotes another professor who says, Hall and two colleagues

00:18:52.140 have recently established a climate change lecture series that includes 11 speakers from the

00:18:57.840 university. None were invited to speak at the reimagined conference, she said. We're past the

00:19:03.540 point in our history as a society that we can legitimize the idea that climate change is not

00:19:09.880 human-induced, that these natural variations that we see in climate are not something to be

00:19:13.980 concerned about. So, she's got some government-funded speakers panel or something, probably billing you

00:19:20.520 millions of dollars for. And she has 11 global warming speakers who all believe the same thing.

00:19:26.380 And she just can't stand that one speaker somewhere else is allowed to dissent for one hour on one day.

00:19:38.420 She doesn't want other points of view to even be heard even once. She's got 11 speakers, she wants 12. 0.99

00:19:45.780 She doesn't want a debate. She wants the other point of view delegitimized. She used that word 1.00

00:19:52.220 because just like the media party is a fraud, so is most of academia. They're not interested in

00:19:59.040 scholarship or learning. They're ideological trainers for students. Imagine telling students

00:20:04.460 that you prefer only one point of view being heard because otherwise it's problematic. Can you imagine what

00:20:11.320 it's like to be a student in that professor's class? If you dare ask a question, I bet you get a lower

00:20:16.760 mark. You don't want to be legitimized. Look, the media are lying about Dr. Moore. The professors and

00:20:23.920 media who used to care about free speech are the ones leading the charge to deplatform him. Regina has 0.98

00:20:29.820 an odious mayor who is more concerned about being fashionable than representing the interests of his city

00:20:34.740 and province. And all of it explains why we haven't heard any opposition to Justin Trudeau's plans

00:20:40.580 to license and regulate not only the news media, but every website in the country. Remember this?

00:20:47.340 To be fair, you've got an agency that wants to enhance its scope of powers to determine what's

00:20:53.820 a trusted news source. So the first question will be, who's to define that? You've got a lot of these

00:20:59.060 groups. Just a second. This is a recommendation, Evan. The CRTC hasn't decided anything. Okay, but

00:21:04.760 they're recommending that. They're recommending that content providers have to register and get a

00:21:10.500 license. So how will this work? How are you going to regulate websites? How are you going to register

00:21:15.720 all that? Do you buy these recommendations? Well, I mean, one of the recommendations, so you're

00:21:23.600 talking about a couple of different things here, but as far as the licensing is concerned,

00:21:27.520 is if you're a distributor of content in Canada, and obviously, you know, if you're a very small

00:21:35.140 media organization, the requirement probably wouldn't be the same as if you're Facebook or Google.

00:21:42.760 So there would have to be some proportionality embedded into this, but we would ask that they

00:21:49.680 have a license. Yes. Oh, yeah. You know, get a license, right? Yeah, they're not really

00:21:57.480 trying to censor Dr. Patrick Moore, though. No. It looks like it. What they're actually

00:22:04.520 trying to do is censor you. Dr. Moore is just standing in their way. Stay with us for more.

00:22:12.980 We'll be right back.

00:22:20.020 All right. So Boogie Jazz will get three delegates.

00:22:38.160 have you ever seen a coin toss like that in your life where you toss the coin you grab it

00:22:47.000 you look at it you check which side you're on and then you put it on your hand and surprise

00:22:52.960 pete budigieg won that little round of caucusing that was from iowa yesterday from the democratic

00:23:03.120 parties presidential caucuses the whole thing is very arcane and obscure at the best of times it's

00:23:10.500 not a one person one vote primary system they have the little meetings and conclaves and they count

00:23:16.660 and they eliminate and they schmooze and merge it looks very friendly very old townish and one of

00:23:22.260 the rules is if they have a tie in one of these little caucuses they do break the tie with a coin

00:23:27.760 toss but i ain't never seen a coin toss like that i thought it was a symbol of how kooky the night

00:23:32.920 was joining us now via skype from los angeles where he has just returned from iowa is our friend

00:23:38.980 joel pollack senior editor at large of brightbar.com joel um i was a little kooky at the best times that

00:23:45.140 coin toss is a symbol of that but last night felt like a meltdown what it was what did it look like

00:23:49.260 from where you were well actually the coin toss is a more humane version of the old system under the

00:23:56.660 previous rules it was pistols at dawn what no i'm just kidding

00:24:02.460 you know i mean it could be it's so obscure and unusual um so well look it's not there are other

00:24:12.320 places in the country where close elections are decided by coin tosses in this case it's not really

00:24:18.800 deciding the outcome of the caucuses what they're doing is electing delegates to the state convention

00:24:24.340 who will then decide who will get the state's nomination the state's delegates at the national

00:24:30.860 party convention so it's one or two steps removed but yes it does look a little funny but the real

00:24:36.260 scandal in iowa is not over the coin toss the real scandal in iowa is over the fact that

00:24:41.420 almost 24 hours after the caucuses were done there's no sense of who actually won the iowa state democratic

00:24:51.040 party releases uh has released or it's about to release depending on what time zone you're in

00:24:57.020 uh 50 of the results but they don't have 100 of the results yet and it's odd because we're not

00:25:03.140 talking about large numbers of people i was at a caucus in des moines iowa yesterday which was one of

00:25:07.920 the largest ones and they had 680 voters so that's not a lot of people to count and in fact they counted

00:25:14.540 everybody by hand so that's why people are confused and upset that the computer system or the cell phone

00:25:25.040 app that they were supposed to be using to tabulate all these votes did not seem to work yeah i mean

00:25:30.800 it's not like they were counting every single vote in the state it's a smallish state to begin with

00:25:36.280 these were just democrats just democrats who physically turned out to these caucusing places

00:25:41.480 i think i mean you correct me if i'm wrong on any of this that's 600 people that's not a long time

00:25:46.980 to count that you you've got scrutineers there i imagine as we say people observing it um i don't

00:25:53.180 know how many individual cause you know how many individual caucuses there were in iowa would there

00:25:57.220 have been a hundred even i think it was i'd be guessing here i don't know the exact number someone

00:26:03.660 else asked me the same question i don't know the exact number but i was in des moines which is the

00:26:07.180 largest city and there are i think a couple hundred precincts in des moines so extrapolate

00:26:12.200 over the state we're not talking about a huge number of voting precincts let's say in the ballpark

00:26:18.020 of a thousand to two thousand and i'm guessing again here but the real question i think comes down

00:26:23.100 to how they did it they used a new process this year where they used a kind of ranked choice where

00:26:28.160 you came to the caucus you stated your preference for a particular candidate and if that candidate received

00:26:33.280 more than 15 percent of the vote at that caucus they made it to the second round the candidates

00:26:38.780 that did not make it well they had a lot of voters who supported them who are now free to make

00:26:42.880 a second choice and they could choose one of the candidates who survived through to the second round

00:26:47.800 or they could band together and choose one of the candidates who didn't make it through on the first

00:26:52.300 count that is so confusing it's like a transferable ballot go ahead it's not that confusing if you have

00:26:58.800 someone who knows how to do it i think the problem was they just didn't have well here's actually the real

00:27:04.680 problem i think i think this is when we when we figure out what the problem is behind all of this i think

00:27:08.280 it'll turn out to be the following one of the choices you have between the first and second vote

00:27:14.040 if your candidate did not clear 15 i was at a caucus where joe biden missed the 15 threshold so if you're one of

00:27:22.800 those biden voters and your candidate only got let's say 11 well you could choose to go with one

00:27:28.580 of the other candidates or you could choose to go home and a lot of people simply went home they did

00:27:33.200 not want to support another candidate so that doesn't theoretically pose a problem for the system

00:27:39.380 except for some of the people counting votes now they had fewer voters in the room and i think it

00:27:44.160 confused a lot of people because for example we had 680 at the start of our caucus by the time they

00:27:49.940 counted the first round there were only 677 there were even a couple of votes for people who aren't

00:27:54.840 even running there was a vote for cory booker who was already out of the race and then you have people

00:27:58.920 leaving after the first round a huge number of people not just the joe biden people but a lot of

00:28:03.100 the people whose candidate did make it through to the next round just decided to go home so the number

00:28:07.580 of people who remained was something like less than half of the original 680 now this caucus had a very

00:28:12.820 competent manager she knew what she was doing and she knew only to count the difference that is to say 0.96

00:28:18.660 the new votes on the second round for candidates who didn't get those votes the first round but i

00:28:23.280 imagine that for someone who didn't really know what was doing what was working or how to work this

00:28:27.740 system and who hadn't done it before i imagine it was very difficult and i'm not sure that the app

00:28:32.120 that they developed for this had appropriate programs in it or appropriate code to take in all of

00:28:40.140 this information they wanted not just to know how many delegates were won by each caucus by each

00:28:45.640 precinct and each candidate in each precinct they also wanted to know who won the first ballot who

00:28:49.800 won the second ballot so this app was being asked to take in a whole bunch of information when all

00:28:54.700 people really wanted to know was who got more votes than who else yeah it's just it was just

00:28:59.440 needlessly complicated reporting they what they could have done i think in retrospect was simply report

00:29:04.320 the total number of votes for each candidate at each caucus and get to all the other information

00:29:08.660 in the weeks that follow because there's six weeks between the iowa caucus roughly six maybe seven

00:29:13.520 between the iowa caucus and the state convention they had plenty of time to work this out but they

00:29:18.160 tried to do it all with the fancy app on a phone and the system was broken enough as it was complicated

00:29:24.320 enough as it was the conspiracy theory going around is that joe biden did so badly that the party big

00:29:30.280 wigs spiked the result there may be some truth to that and in fact as we speak right now joe biden's

00:29:35.200 campaign is considering going to court to stop the results from being reported because they're not going

00:29:40.820 to be fully reported and they're concerned that he might be in fifth place or worse maybe the caucus

00:29:45.500 i was at he was in fifth place and that's an urban caucus with people concerned about electability

00:29:50.440 some more moderate people perhaps the winner of our caucus was elizabeth warren who actually showed

00:29:55.880 up in person to give a speech that's allowed by the way campaigning within the caucus is part of how

00:30:00.380 it works so she showed up personally her candidates her delegates her supporters her caucus

00:30:05.420 goers outnumbered the rest but she was first then bernie sanders then pete brutigieg then amy klobuchar

00:30:11.260 and biden failed to qualify wow that i think was mirrored throughout the state i don't think warren

00:30:16.380 won a whole lot of precincts but i think she did fairly well second or third and pete brutigieg did

00:30:22.100 fairly well bernie sanders probably won iowa amy klobuchar and joe biden nobody knows who was fourth

00:30:28.340 who was fifth and i think biden's people are very worried that they'll see a rapid drop-off in support

00:30:34.100 in other states if he is out of the top four they they said this morning they thought he was in the

00:30:38.820 top four a little remark escaped his spokesperson on one of the american news networks she was asked

00:30:46.040 how they did and she said well we're we're bunched up in the top four that was her guess if they're

00:30:51.400 not bunched up in the top four it's gonna look pretty bad for joe biden yeah here's a quick clip

00:30:55.560 of cnn's jake tapper talking to one of these little clusters of biden voters uh who were hoping they could

00:31:02.620 become what he called viable take a quick look at this biden how are we doing over here this does

00:31:08.360 not look like 56 people so the biden biden group so you're you're you you look like lovely wonderful

00:31:15.940 people but it doesn't look like you made the viability threshold not yet not there's time

00:31:22.100 this year i'm not trying to be funny but i don't know but but where what are you going to do

00:31:29.840 we're going to stand we're going to stand strong with our first choice and when other candidates

00:31:35.120 are not viable we know that joe is a lot of people's second choice and will become viable

00:31:40.380 in the second uh alignment so i got to tell you first of all it looks really fun everyone hanging

00:31:44.940 out schmoozing looks like those uh some of those ladies that were ready to go they were holding their 1.00

00:31:49.020 coats as if they just wanted to go that's a massive time commitment uh it seems like it's not just go

00:31:55.220 show what my connects and go um if joe biden is in fourth or fifth but he's the establishment

00:32:03.100 candidate sounds like the democrats have a version of the trump movement which is the grassroots hate

00:32:09.880 the establishment and vice versa what do you think well there's something to that although i think on the

00:32:15.780 left the grassroots are more part of the establishment than they were on the right it's a topic for another

00:32:22.260 time i will say this the biden people had been saying as far back as september that iowa was not

00:32:27.280 a must-win state for them so even though they campaigned hard i think they were already trying

00:32:32.280 to lower expectations in september and they are hoping as of right now that they can keep their lead

00:32:38.980 in south carolina every poll still shows him leading in south carolina although his lead is dwindling

00:32:43.860 they're hoping he can keep his lead with african-american voters and this is how beautiful is this

00:32:49.680 they're gambling on nevada that's right las vegas reno and nevada that's going to be a big showdown

00:32:57.060 biden and sanders in the latest poll are in a statistical dead heat so if joe biden is going to

00:33:02.700 stay in the race much past super tuesday he's going to have to win nevada not just because it's going to

00:33:08.120 forecast voter trends but because he's got to keep his donors on board and they're going to look to back

00:33:12.540 a winning candidate if they see that biden's not doing well they're going to quickly try to find

00:33:16.780 someone else other than sanders to support i doubt many biden donors would move over to sanders and

00:33:22.360 i'm not sure he would take them but i think that nevada is going to be really interesting so

00:33:27.880 you've got nothing else to do over president's day weekend in nevada and through the week that

00:33:32.840 follows you should you should come hang out never a bad reason to go to vegas this time it's a real

00:33:37.120 gamble wow well joel thanks for giving us your time i know you just got back to la so you got to catch

00:33:41.860 up on stuff yeah um i follow you on breitbart.com i encourage all our viewers to do so this is very

00:33:47.660 interesting times we'll have to start sending our canadian reporters down there to get things

00:33:51.320 firsthand but we'll always rely on you for analysis joel thanks for your time yeah you don't have to

00:33:56.760 register here at least not yet oh that's right yeah you're talking about journalist registration

00:34:01.240 holy cow yeah it's a global embarrassment that's for sure all right take care my friend thanks for

00:34:05.520 your help take care there you have a joel pollack senior editor at large uh breitbart.com and isn't

00:34:12.040 that funny his comment at the end there i don't know if you caught it is a reference to registration

00:34:16.220 of journalists uh trudeau's scheme has made world headlines stay with us more ahead on the rebel

00:34:21.860 well what do you think about the show today i am outraged that they're coming to de-platform

00:34:35.980 uh dr patrick moore i as as i record this he has not yet been de-platform but if he is

00:34:43.980 i would encourage him to sue for breach of contract and not just for breach of contract to sue those who

00:34:51.560 induced the breach of contract that's what i did when i was de-platformed in alberta remember my book

00:34:57.520 launched some leftist extremists scared the theater owner into ripping up the contract i get the feeling

00:35:04.080 that this conference will hold firm the whole point of a conference is to have interesting different

00:35:10.940 points of view dr moore is one of 45 speakers and i can't think of a better promotional marketing

00:35:16.700 campaign than someone wants to speak or band buy your ticket now if they're smart they'll go ahead

00:35:22.200 with it and love the publicity and sell a lot more tickets i wonder if they're good and smart or if

00:35:28.980 they're just too afraid we'll find out soon that's our show for today until next time on behalf of all

00:35:34.180 of us here at rebel world headquarters good night and keep fighting for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - February 05, 2020

Leftist mob want co-founder of Greenpeace Dr. Patrick Moore banned from sustainability conference

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