Liberal find a new way to stop pipelines： Blame sexism
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Robbie Picard of Oil Sands Strong joins me from his home in Fort McMurray, Alberta to discuss shutting down the Trans Mountain pipeline and fighting a documentary crew that came to his home town of Fort Maclean, Alberta.
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Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion is on hold yet again for more legal wrangling.
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What does this mean for the federal election that was just called today?
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I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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You know, I'm noticing an alarming trend these days.
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It's pretty recent, and it's built on the tried-and-true template
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of calling anyone to the right of Chairman Mao a racist or alt-right with no evidence whatsoever.
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If you oppose the carbon tax or radical environmentalism or the foreign funding of these radical environmentalists,
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you are now sexist and against human rights.
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Just yesterday, when Jason Kenney, the Premier of Alberta,
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announced the details of his new inquiry into the foreign funding attacking Alberta's oil patch,
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Amnesty International came out and said that tracing money back to foreign billionaires
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would somehow violate the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
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I've seen a spate of articles lately detailing the trials and tribulations of female environmentalists,
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and the articles have tried to blame Donald Trump, Premier Jason Kenney, and my guest tonight
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for any manner of inconveniences, real or imagined, or abuse, real or imagined, directed at these women.
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Robbie Picard held up a sign at the unveiling of Premier Jason Kenney's Energy War Room
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that called the founder of Forest Ethics and Stand Earth the enemy of the oil sands.
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And given that she's dedicated most of her life to shutting down the oil sands,
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I think that's a pretty fair assessment of Sephora Berman.
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And yet the media is painting that event as some sort of misogynistic attack
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from Robbie, who happens to be gay and Métis and from the place Berman called Mordor.
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So my friend Robbie joins me tonight to discuss these new shut-upper-y tactics
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and the cancellation of the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain Pipeline one more time
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and how he took the fight to a documentary film crew that came up to Fort McMurray.
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Stay tuned for the interview we recorded yesterday afternoon, coming up next.
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Joining me now from his home in Fort McMurray is Robbie Picard from Oil Sand Strong.
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There's a heck of a lot to talk about right now, but first I want to talk about you
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because you fought back when a documentary film crew came to Fort McMurray
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and you decided that these people aren't going to come to your town,
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tell lies about your town without any sort of opposition or pushback from the locals
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Yeah, you know, I wasn't entirely sure what, I guess, what they were trying to do.
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And so I organized a small group of people to kind of just say, like, I can't even count.
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Like, apparently there's another four documentaries about Fort McMurray being filmed right now.
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But I just wanted to say, like, look, why are you guys constantly flying here
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and, you know, asking questions about the tailings upon wanting to tell our story
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or wanting us to tell you our stories at the same time?
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I mean, are you going to tell it from a center point of view
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and kind of just kind of be factual or are you going to put a slant on it?
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And also I said, like, you know, it kind of gets old after a while
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Like, Jamie, the CBC reporter here, she did a story right after,
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And I was very, like, on point, and I respected that.
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But the interesting part was that we were in the –
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I tried really hard to make this little town hall work,
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and it was raining, and I was real busy with my marketing company.
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And one of the things I'm doing right now is, like, I'm just –
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like, that morning I was buying an antique blender
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But it was really – actually, it was from 1974.
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Anyway, so I was obsessed with buying this blender.
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So I had one of my camera guys there, and we were going to film it.
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And before my camera even got out, the host, who was nice,
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put the camera in my face and started asking me about my lesbian post.
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First time that has ever happened in person ever, ever in person.
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And then I said to her, I said, you know, this was the interesting part.
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And instead of saying, well, you're a hypocrite because you're taking a plane,
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I said, what is the harm if that oil in that plane or the fuel, the diesel,
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whatever, the jet fuel, what's the harm if that came from our great,
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And it kind of was like, she's like, you're kind of right.
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And at the end of it, they were kind of defending, hey,
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So it was definitely an interesting encounter that honestly could have went
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But from now on, when they come, I want them to understand that, like,
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You know, she's like, Robbie, you made that lesbian post.
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All you care about media and how dare you criticize media.
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Or don't you think that's hypocritical that you're criticizing media?
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And I'm like, well, I'm not saying that media can't cover stories.
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What I want you guys to do is understand that this has an impact on us.
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Like, I mean, every time we turn around, there's, I mean,
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Some do, some have an amazing time and they, they do good work.
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But there's always someone come in here to kind of talk about us.
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And I have given, like, myself for the past five years,
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like, when they come, I give them the best to her possible.
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I mean, I had a strange one where this one girl,
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she went and played the violin at an abandoned oil sands site.
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You know, she came in from New York City to play a violin.
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But it was the first time I think, I think we're kind of like, I think we're at that point now.
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Are you simply just going to fly over the tailings ponds and then take your video?
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And if so, well, then we're going to at least stand up and say, look, like,
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there are people here with lives that this is their community and they care about it.
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And honestly, like, we're just trying to get about our business.
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We're trying to figure out what we're doing about our low housing prices.
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Like, I mean, it's, you know, it's definitely an interesting world we're in,
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but I'm happy that there was a little bit of bite back.
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And I think you're probably the, here's the thing.
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You do this out of really the goodness of your heart.
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You're really not getting paid to confront these activists that come into your town.
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Um, but you're the only one who organized the pushback.
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And that's disappointing to me because you have an MLA, you have an MP and a mayor
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who they're getting paid to defend your community.
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Um, and I hope after seeing what you were able to do on really a moment's notice,
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um, that they sort of take up the reins and do what they were elected to do.
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And that's defend the best interests of Fort McMurray.
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Um, I, I do hope, like, I, I want more, like, I'd like to see more support at these events
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Like, if this was Calgary, you'd have a lot more people.
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Now, next thing I wanted to talk to you about, of course, is the Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion
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that has once again been put on hold so that it can go through more legal wrangling.
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Apparently six, um, new appeals are going to be heard.
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Um, and the main criticism, at least from me, is that the last time the pipeline was delayed,
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the court laid out, now, agree or disagree with the court, normally I tend to disagree
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with these appeals courts, um, decisions on pipelines, but they very clearly laid out
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to the liberals what they needed to do to meet the criteria to avoid the pipeline being
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And they also didn't make any arguments for or against the pipeline.
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And whether or not you agree with the pipeline, certainly it's the government's role to protect
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Ah, I think that it's, um, very rude to call an election on September 11th.
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Um, I'm, it's, uh, we have an election coming up and I'm going to stay nonpartisan like I
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But what I will say is that, um, this pipeline is in our national interest and you, when you
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elect people to office and they take roles of like energy minister, attorney general or
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I understand that for a time period when you're running for elections, like partisan politics is
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just insane, but you want to know that those people have the best interest of the country
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And you really want to believe that they didn't just spend seven point, whatever
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I mean, you're different numbers, but 4.5 to start to start.
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So 4.5 to start, but they're, I think they're projecting close to $7 billion, um, $4.5 billion,
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which is a lot of money, which is, um, you know, which we need this pipeline.
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And you would think that after paying that pipeline and taking our, um, Kinder Morgan out
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of the equation, that this would be a priority and you would have your best lawyers on it.
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There would not be a single, uh, T not crossed or an I not dotted and I'm concerned.
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Um, when you have such, like, we need this pipeline.
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There's, this isn't a, this isn't a want, um, if we don't get this pipeline, what's going
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to happen is you're going to see Alberto like kind of collapse in time, maybe not right
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away, but it will, it'll slowly start to fizzle.
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Um, you're going to see, uh, more investment leave.
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Um, you're going to see a lot of very, very angry Albertans.
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And I understand that parts of Canada are doing good economically.
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Well, that's really easy when, you know, you have a government borrowing money to prop
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Um, but we in Alberta need this pipeline and long-term, I would say four or five years
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from now, the rest of Canada will realize the importance of Alberta.
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Uh, I hope that, you know, it's, uh, if we don't get this pipeline and they try to do
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something, say in a, in a few years, it'll be too little, too late.
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So now it boils down to which party can, I suppose, get a pipeline.
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And, um, I'm, I'm completely sad that this isn't a priority.
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Um, that's not my grinder age and, um, I'm, I, I'm blown away at the fact that this is
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Um, you know, and, and we've been fighting this for quite a while and mostly on our own
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dimes, we don't have some U S whatever organization, trust fund babies, whatever, giving us a check
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for $2 million so we can continue to, uh, do this.
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We're like, I mean, I'm, we're, I'm doing the best I can with what I have, trying to keep
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Um, I don't have an answer to this, but once again, when you have a government that's been
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elected, you hope that no matter what happens, that they have the best interests of our country
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Um, and that, you know, when you think about it, what the liberals were willing to do for
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SNC Lavalin, they were willing to literally break the law, um, to do, uh, you know, a
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solid for a corrupt Quebec based company, an engineering firm called SNC Lavalin, uh, an
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engineering firm that once bought hookers for Muammar Gaddafi's son and routinely brought
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him over to Canada to work on his English, um, they were willing to break the law.
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And yet when it comes to something that's in Alberta's best interest, but like you point
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out in the best interest of the entire country, they couldn't even present a sound legal argument
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Um, and they do have the ability to say that this is in the national interest and just build
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And I think that says a lot about, um, how this liberal government feels about Alberta
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and the West who alluded to, um, a $2 million, um, handout to an environmental activist.
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It was given to a woman who fancies herself to be the nemesis of Robbie Picard, Sephora Berman,
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She just got a $2 million U.S. climate award from an American environmental group called
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And she's supposed to take that money to develop a strategic approach to limiting new oil and
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gas development globally to align with the UN Paris Agreement goals of a safe climate, at
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least according to the news release about the award.
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Now, the point I want to make is that if this were Russian money flowing into the country
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for any reason, but if it were flowing into, let's say, promote oil and gas, which the Russians
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They'd love to block our oil and gas, especially our gas.
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But if Russian money were dumping into the country to support things that conservatives
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cared about, everybody would be absolutely losing their marbles over this.
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Berman gets money from the Americans, and nobody's talking about foreign collusion at all.
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Oh, you know, I've had a lot of time to think about Sephora Berman lately, and I'm not surprised
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And honestly, we know who's funding the anti-oil sands, anti-Canadian movement, anti-Canadian energy
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movement. And now that Vivian Krause, you know, she's done her research and we're going to have
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the inquiry, we're going to find out more. But truthfully, what they're going to do is they're
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just going to change how they give the money. It's going to be done differently. And I think
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you're going to see more of this type of way of doing it. And I'm honestly, I am.
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I'm disgusted that more people aren't concerned about what has happened here. And there's not
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more outrage to this. We all like, I mean, that $2 million is just part of what she that's what we
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know about. That's not the rest of it. We don't may or may not know about, in addition to her wage and
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all of the rest of the money that they have. We as Canadians, I'm not even going to blame the
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government. Why? We need to say, look, this is our future. And we have to get off this delusional
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notion that somehow that we are going to eradicate fossil fuels in the next 20 years. And frankly,
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if Canada stopped all oil production tomorrow, it would make no dint in the world's carbon
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pollution, period. So my, my friend, Sephora, I don't, I'm trying, candidly, I'm trying to figure
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out what to how to respond to her. So after, you know, I opened the war room, and I held up that
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sign that said, Sephora Berman, enemy of the oil sands. You know, she's constantly, you know,
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bringing up about that she got attacked. Apparently, some guy tried to assault her at an airport. Now,
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that was pre, for the record, pre, that would happen two years prior to the war midsend.
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You know what, I want, I want to, I want to talk about that. So before we skip ahead, actually,
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I had, I actually brought up the article on my computer, because it is so unbelievable,
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in that I literally do not believe it happened the way she described. It's part of an article from
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the National Observer called the Campaign to Silence Sephora Berman. And she, she points out,
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or she alleges, that after she was appointed to the oil sands advisory group, so before Jason Kenney
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even announced that he's going to run for the leadership of the PCs, then win the leadership of
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the PCs, then unite the parties, and then run for the leadership of that party, and then win as
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premier. She alleges that somehow Jason Kenney and Donald Trump, who also at the time wasn't president
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yet, are somehow, due to their rhetoric, responsible for an alleged assault that happened to her in one of
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the most surveilled buildings in the entire country. And I can't even believe journalists are letting her
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get away with saying that, this. She says that she was at the Edmonton International Airport,
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and this, these are her words. So I'm, imagine this is on the departure side, through security. So she says,
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she was assaulted at the Edmonton Airport. A huge man came toward me, yelling at me, and then he grabbed me,
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started shaking me, and there was spit flying into my face. I was scared. I twisted away from him, and ran into the
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women's bathroom, and hid in a stall for a long time. She ventured out in time to board her flight. The man had
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gone. I absolutely, I'm saying it right now, I don't think this happened. Airports are watched and surveilled in
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real time. There are literally people sitting watching monitors. She wants us to believe a ginormous
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spittle-faced monster, big foot of a man, grabbed her in the Edmonton Airport, throttled her until she
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writhed and twisted away, and then ran off sobbing and hid in a bathroom. And this man just sauntered off
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and got on a plane. I, it's unbelievable. And yet the media just lets her say these kinds of things.
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It, we see it all the time. We're seeing it again with Catherine McKenna. In an attempt to silence
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everybody who's critical of the carbon tax, she's saying, well, this, this rhetoric, this being
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critical of me, is somehow morphing into super misogyny. And this is just the, it's the new
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shut up. They used to call us racist. Now we're sexist because we don't like the carbon tax. And
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anything goes. Any manner of story that they just say without proof, apropos of nothing,
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everybody just believes it like it's the gospel of Mark. I don't get it.
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Um, okay. So, um, sorry, I was on quite a tangent there. No, no. And I, I'm going to actually,
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I've got a, I got a good response for this. Okay. So, um, I'm going to leave Catherine McKenna's one.
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I'm going to set that aside because, um, that one, I don't, I have never, I've never, I've never,
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I've never done a meme on Catherine. I've never, I've never, I don't, I try to stay nonpartisan.
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The, oh, I've taken the odd shot at Trudeau when he, you know, dresses up as Mr. Dress Up when he goes on
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an India trip and the fact that we don't have a pipeline. Um, but what I will do is I'll, I'm
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going to, I'm going to, I'm going to take this to another level here and I'm actually going to
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include you in this. So Sapporo Berman, for instance, like if somebody, if somebody, here's
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my message to Sapporo. Okay. So I, I completely get it. Sapporo, you and I don't agree and like
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each other. And I, I'm actually quite impressed that you got $2 million for your rackets. Um, I mean,
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you have made an amazing, amazing career, um, you know, trying to shut down the industry
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that we're trying to protect. And I mean, you're ahead of us right now. I mean, wow, $2 million
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to fantasize about how you're going to get rid of fossil fuels. Good on you. But if somebody
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grabs you at an airport, um, call security and get them arrested. And I find it really
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funny how there's this outrage or something that no one saw happen. Uh, I'm not saying
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did or didn't, I wasn't there, but you could probably actually, I mean, I imagine airports
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keep security footage for a very, very long time. You probably can name the time and date
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of your flight and you can probably find the perpetrator who grabbed you and spit in your
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face or, and go from there. And, and when it comes to people being physical, there needs
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to be a, not a double standard. So I have a friend of mine who is a reporter who was at
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a woman's rally and some guy, um, physically, you know, tried to punch her, punched her camera
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and the camera hit her in the head. It was all on tape and very few people on the left gave,
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uh, gave a sweet about it, even though she was, uh, clearly a female. And the entire video
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was quite passive. Hey, what are you up to? Why? You know, it wasn't even a typical thing.
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And that was on tape. And what did my friend do? She did everything within her power to get
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the guy exposed. So support, you have massive reach and you've got $2 million in the bank
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or you have access, uh, you know, do something, um, call and find out who this guy was. Um,
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but at the same time, and this is where I'm struggling because, um, I never want anyone
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to hurt support or Berman, support or Berman. Um, and frankly, um, my idea for calling her
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enemy, the oil sands came from Chatelaine magazine and Chatelaine magazine did an article where she's,
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they said she's a, how did support or Berman become, um, the oil and gas number one enemy?
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Yeah. And they are that that's unreadable feminist garbage Chatelaine magazine. So if it's okay for the
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feminists at Chatelaine magazine to say about her, then it's not sexist when you say it,
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my gay matey friend. Am I being sexist by not fighting the same fight? Uh, I don't, um, I,
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I don't care who my opponent is. I'm fair. I, I try to fight fair. Um, I try not to be too personal,
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but I'm also not scared to stand up to anybody. And, um, I've stood up to David Suzuki. I've stood up
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to Mike Adima. I've stood up to most of the green, the Greenpeace crew and Fonda.
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Yes. Leonardo DiCaprio and Neil Young. I mean, it's not, to me, it doesn't matter if someone's
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a woman or not. And frankly, I don't, most of my mentors, my business mentors, people in Fort
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McMurray are all females, business people, successful people. Um, and then pretty easy
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to work with. I recently actually had a really good conversation with the former energy minister,
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Margaret McCraig-Boyd. Then I, um, met with the current energy minister provincially. I got posed
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to the post picture with both of them. Um, I'm, you know, I've, I've, I've, I've worked with Rachel
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Notley to best of my ability when she was premier. I've tried to stay nonpartisan. So, but I'm not
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going to be silenced. And I think it's a very vicious thing to silence people by accusing them
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of, uh, doing things. I'm like trying to imply that what am I supposed to do? Like if, if someone's
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a woman, I'm supposed to take it like softer and not say the same things I'd say to a guy.
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Um, I don't think that's, that's how it is. I think if you, if your support department is a
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public figure, she's very, very, I mean, it's hilarious. She's like, she does a post on Twitter.
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She's like, um, call to war basically. Like, um, I don't know what the, what it was. I can't
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remember. Yeah. She's like a sort of a war cry. Um, warrior up warrior up, right? Okay. You're
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worrying up. And then if someone calls you out and says, well, your enemy, the oil sands, all
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less misogynistic. And, and, um, if someone's threatening you, Sephora and call 9-1-1, you know,
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take care of, take care of that. And if you're at an airport, I mean, that should be easy.
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Don't run to the bathroom, pull the fire alarm, go get security, do what you need to do,
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but don't scream, scream, say, get your hands off me, like protect yourself, you know? Um, and I,
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and, and, and I, I don't quite know what the angle there, and I really hope that it's not,
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you know, just to silence us. I mean, um, I think that, uh, I think that we're in a time
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where you're going to have a lot of people that are very upset about what's happening.
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And, um, it's great that Ontario and Quebec are doing decent after, because Alberta did
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decent for so long, but people are terrified. And frankly, for all of your support, for all
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of your environmental activism you've done, um, you haven't created one job in Alberta.
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It's not like any of this. I mean, if you look at, we have a free market system. So if you had
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an energy source tomorrow, I don't believe, I mean, if, if suddenly, okay, all this energy
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source was going to replace oil tomorrow, you'd see it. You're not. When you're seeing windmills
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not work in Germany, going back to coal, you see that they've spent trillions of dollars
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on the so-called green energy, which is horrible. You see what's happened in Ontario with the
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power rates going up and people can barely feed themselves. So it's, it's a very interesting
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time. And, um, respectfully, I mean, um, I don't certainly don't want anyone to threaten
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her, but I'm not going to stop my advocacy out of fear because I'm not, I'm, I'm, she's
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my opponent on many, many issues. I, I was trying to find common ground, like something
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we could agree on. It's hard to agree with, on, with her. It really truly is. I've watched
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every video she's ever done. And then there's just not a lot, not a lot there to work with.
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Now, the last thing I wanted to talk to you about today, since you're being generous, so
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generous with your time, I'm going to take up a little bit more, um, Amnesty International
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today. I remember when they used to care about people who were wrongly imprisoned, getting
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like the downtrodden out of like thought criminals, um, people who were political prisoners in
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the developing world, imprisoned by oligarchs, that sort of thing. Today, they are standing
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up in favor of foreign billionaires and their ability to dump millions of dollars into Canada
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at activists like Zipporah Berman. Uh, they say that Jason Kenney's, um, inquest, let's call
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it into foreign funding and foreign meddling in the Canadian economy and specifically in,
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uh, blocking Alberta's oil and gas development. Um, they've said that the energy war room is deeply
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concerning and they say these initiatives to protect Canada's economy somehow undermine
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and violate a range of Alberta's human rights obligations. Standing up for foreign billionaires
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while Albertans lose their jobs, their homes, their families, and everything they ever worked
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for. What happened to Amnesty International? Um, I'm going to blame, I'm going to blame Fort McMurray
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on this. Um, and here's what we failed to do. Um, um, I'll even take some of the responsibility.
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Clearly, people at Amnesty International have this notion that there's something wrong happening
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in Fort McMurray. They think that there's all these people that for some reason don't have
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good paying jobs or First Nations that, um, own, you know, half a billion dollars of a Suncor
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tank farm. Um, um, they somehow think that this isn't a good thing. They somehow think that what
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is going on in Fort McMurray is bad. And we've done a really, really lousy job of articulating what
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we are to the world. And as much as I'm trying my best, and we are getting better at it constantly
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to put a better message out there, we, as Canadians, as Albertans, and as people who live in Fort McMurray,
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we need to really stop letting this happen and fight because, um, our lives are comfortable.
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They're not as comfortable as Sapporo Bermans, but they're pretty comfortable here. Um, and I think,
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but there's a lot of uncomfortable. There's a lot of people losing their jobs. There's a lot of
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poverty in Alberta right now. If we don't get our message out there, I mean, there's, we've allowed
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this Sapporo Berman and Mike Kadima and all of these people to paint this picture of who we are
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to the world and clearly Amnesty International. I mean, they need to have their heads examined
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if they think it's a bad thing for our premier to actually give, um, to care about the future of the
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province. Um, I, you know, I respect a lot of what Rachel Notley did, but the one thing I strongly
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disagree with is this notion of social license. So clearly that's a big failure. Um, if we don't
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get a pipeline built, if we don't get market access, the United States will slowly, slowly,
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um, become, um, well, they're only are really our only customer. Um, but they're going to become,
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they're going to buy our oil for cheaper. We're going to sell it less and less, and we won't have
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a market. So, um, this is the war room. I mean, if it does anything, um, with the inquiry, it'll open
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up, okay, what is happening here? We all know what's happening. It'll just make it more black and
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white. And I respect our premier for having the courage to actually try and do something. Um,
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it's not an easy thing to do, but like, you know, what we all know what's wrong. I mean,
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the people, the documentary people, they said it too, like, we don't have a problem with your oil.
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Now, whether they come out in the movie or whatever they're, whatever they're doing with it,
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I'm not entirely sure, but I, I'm telling you right now, like, it's just, we, we here in Alberta and,
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and the rest of Canada, we really got to step up in this and not accept what's happening. And it's
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hard because they come at you from every different angle. They work on multiple strategies, multiple
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fronts. Um, I mean, it's, but it's, it's not right. And it'd be really nice to get a united
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message. It'd be nice if all Canadians on this one topic about energy sovereignty agree and get the
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message out there. So clearly, I mean, Amnesty International, for them to say that they have a
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bad impression and that comes because we're not loud enough. I mean, you have Naomi Klein today in New
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York with Greta Thunberg. I mean, Greta is such a brilliant climate expert, you know, with all of
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her vast experience and knowledge. Um, I mean, very sarcastic. Um, uh, you know, that's the paint,
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the picture they're getting. Like, I mean, Naomi Klein's with Mayor Bill de Lazio. She's painting this
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picture. Well, Amnesty International, all those places, like they, they spend a lot of time in New
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York and that's what they're hearing. So, I mean, we need to say, we need to spend a lot of time,
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energy, educating the world on us quickly and simultaneously build a pipeline. And, um, the,
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whoever the government is in six weeks, um, after this election, they need to put the pipelines,
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even two pipelines as in the national interest, the same as the railroad. And if that happens,
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and maybe we have a shot, but if we don't get that and we continue this nonsense that we're doing now,
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I don't know. And Amnesty International, I mean, we, we're the greatest country in the world,
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um, for many reasons. Um, people talk about, like, I had a conversation the other day about
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all these people, you know, immigrants saying, well, you know, Canadians, they're not accepting
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as immigrants and all this stuff. And I'm like, well, the way I look at it, the way I look at it
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is this, if our country wasn't great, why are so many people trying to get into it?
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Same with the States. If America wasn't so great, why are people trying to get into it? If Mexico is
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better than the States, why would they just stay there? We're very lucky in America, Canada and
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America for this time period are probably the greatest two countries in the world. We still
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have a very good capitalist society. And if you work hard, you can get ahead. And, and if you're,
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if you screw up, there's social programs for you. It's almost the perfect balance. And if we don't
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protect it by protecting our economy and our future and our, um, infrastructure to get our
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oils to market, we're going to be screwed. And I don't know why they're trying to screw us so bad,
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but partially is because we're a very big country with a very small population. And what we achieve,
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what we achieve with what we have is amazing, but we need to, we need to, nevermind just explaining
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it to the world. We need to believe it ourselves. And we don't. I think we need to explain it to
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some of our fellow Canadians, our fellow Canadians in British Columbia, our fellow Canadians in, uh,
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Quebec. I think, um, we haven't done a lot to educate them, um, on how, how they benefit from a
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wealthy Alberta. Now, Robbie, I want to give you a chance to, uh, tell everybody how they can find
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the work you do, um, and support the work you do because like I pointed out, most of this,
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all the, uh, most of the advocacy, advocacy you do is out of pocket. It's real simple. Um,
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go to oil soundstrong.com and buy two shirts and a hoodie, and then make sure to wear it at your
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government, uh, local government building, like the Senate and get your picture taken.
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That's fantastic. Robbie, thank you so much for coming on the show. And we'll talk again soon for
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I think Premier Jason Kenney said it best when he responded to the busybodies at Amnesty International
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this way. He said Amnesty International used to actually fight for releasing prisoners of conscience.
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Now it's fighting to protect foreign funded billionaires from transparency when they're
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funding a campaign to landlock Canadian energy. Kenney also said Amnesty International should be
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more concerned about the world's use of oil from countries with poor human rights records like
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Saudi Arabia and Russia instead of Canada. Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thanks so
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much for tuning in. I'll see you back here in the same time in the same place next week. And remember,
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don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.