Rebel News Podcast - Liberal find a new way to stop pipelines： Blame sexism

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00:01:06.580 Kinder Morgan's Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion is on hold yet again for more legal wrangling.

00:01:12.720 What does this mean for the federal election that was just called today?

00:01:16.700 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:23.640 You know, I'm noticing an alarming trend these days.

00:01:39.680 It's pretty recent, and it's built on the tried-and-true template

00:01:42.760 of calling anyone to the right of Chairman Mao a racist or alt-right with no evidence whatsoever.

00:01:48.460 It's just assumed.

00:01:50.600 Now, this new trend is this.

00:01:52.800 If you oppose the carbon tax or radical environmentalism or the foreign funding of these radical environmentalists,

00:01:59.520 you are now sexist and against human rights. 0.96

00:02:03.900 Just yesterday, when Jason Kenney, the Premier of Alberta,

00:02:08.200 announced the details of his new inquiry into the foreign funding attacking Alberta's oil patch,

00:02:13.900 Amnesty International came out and said that tracing money back to foreign billionaires

00:02:19.880 would somehow violate the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

00:02:24.700 Bizarre, right?

00:02:25.960 It gets worse.

00:02:26.920 I've seen a spate of articles lately detailing the trials and tribulations of female environmentalists,

00:02:32.560 and the articles have tried to blame Donald Trump, Premier Jason Kenney, and my guest tonight

00:02:38.300 for any manner of inconveniences, real or imagined, or abuse, real or imagined, directed at these women.

00:02:46.560 Robbie Picard held up a sign at the unveiling of Premier Jason Kenney's Energy War Room

00:02:51.860 that called the founder of Forest Ethics and Stand Earth the enemy of the oil sands.

00:02:58.200 And given that she's dedicated most of her life to shutting down the oil sands,

00:03:02.540 I think that's a pretty fair assessment of Sephora Berman.

00:03:06.320 And yet the media is painting that event as some sort of misogynistic attack

00:03:11.440 from Robbie, who happens to be gay and Métis and from the place Berman called Mordor.

00:03:18.260 He's from Fort McMurray.

00:03:19.720 So my friend Robbie joins me tonight to discuss these new shut-upper-y tactics

00:03:25.020 and the cancellation of the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain Pipeline one more time

00:03:29.520 and how he took the fight to a documentary film crew that came up to Fort McMurray.

00:03:35.620 Stay tuned for the interview we recorded yesterday afternoon, coming up next.

00:03:55.020 Joining me now from his home in Fort McMurray is Robbie Picard from Oil Sand Strong.

00:04:03.400 Hey Robbie, thanks for joining me.

00:04:05.100 There's a heck of a lot to talk about right now, but first I want to talk about you

00:04:10.780 because you fought back when a documentary film crew came to Fort McMurray

00:04:18.140 and you decided that these people aren't going to come to your town,

00:04:22.820 tell lies about your town without any sort of opposition or pushback from the locals

00:04:28.040 and you led the charge, didn't you?

00:04:30.800 Yeah, you know, I wasn't entirely sure what, I guess, what they were trying to do.

00:04:37.980 It was definitely an interesting thing.

00:04:39.940 And so I organized a small group of people to kind of just say, like, I can't even count.

00:04:45.720 Like, apparently there's another four documentaries about Fort McMurray being filmed right now.

00:04:50.520 But I just wanted to say, like, look, why are you guys constantly flying here

00:04:54.440 and, you know, asking questions about the tailings upon wanting to tell our story

00:04:59.280 or wanting us to tell you our stories at the same time?

00:05:04.840 I mean, are you going to tell it from a center point of view

00:05:07.620 and kind of just kind of be factual or are you going to put a slant on it?

00:05:11.400 And also I said, like, you know, it kind of gets old after a while

00:05:14.860 because it's constantly happening.

00:05:16.780 There's always a group here.

00:05:17.640 It's always the same story.

00:05:18.940 It's sort of like a 51st Dates or whatever.

00:05:21.480 Like, it never stops going around and around.

00:05:24.080 And I wanted to kind of talk about it.

00:05:26.940 And it was definitely interesting.

00:05:29.280 So they came.

00:05:30.960 I'll give credit where credit's due.

00:05:32.660 Like, Jamie, the CBC reporter here, she did a story right after,

00:05:35.840 and it was very fair.

00:05:37.280 And I was very, like, on point, and I respected that.

00:05:41.680 But the interesting part was that we were in the –

00:05:44.360 I tried really hard to make this little town hall work,

00:05:46.760 and it was raining, and I was real busy with my marketing company.

00:05:49.820 And one of the things I'm doing right now is, like, I'm just –

00:05:52.540 I never stop working.

00:05:54.660 And sometimes, like, you're literally –

00:05:56.420 like, that morning I was buying an antique blender

00:05:59.480 because I found a really good garage sale.

00:06:01.580 So that was my excuse to run it behind.

00:06:03.060 But it was really – actually, it was from 1974.

00:06:05.020 It was really great.

00:06:06.160 Anyway, so I was obsessed with buying this blender.

00:06:08.760 And so then I went.

00:06:10.340 And then I was going to document it, too.

00:06:12.700 So I had one of my camera guys there, and we were going to film it.

00:06:15.400 And before my camera even got out, the host, who was nice,

00:06:19.340 put the camera in my face and started asking me about my lesbian post. 1.00

00:06:22.260 First time that has ever happened in person ever, ever in person.

00:06:27.860 It happens all the time.

00:06:28.940 Everyone wants to take a slot at me.

00:06:30.000 They bring it up.

00:06:30.860 And, you know, frankly, I don't care.

00:06:33.480 But I handled it.

00:06:35.420 And then I said to her, I said, you know, this was the interesting part.

00:06:38.000 I said, you flew over here.

00:06:38.860 We flew over here. 0.99

00:06:39.560 And instead of saying, well, you're a hypocrite because you're taking a plane, 0.97

00:06:42.460 I said, what is the harm if that oil in that plane or the fuel, the diesel, 0.96

00:06:48.200 whatever, the jet fuel, what's the harm if that came from our great,

00:06:53.000 wonderful community of Fort McMurray?

00:06:55.120 And it kind of was like, she's like, you're kind of right.

00:06:58.520 And at the end of it, they were kind of defending, hey,

00:07:01.080 you guys have a right to produce oil.

00:07:03.460 So it was definitely an interesting encounter that honestly could have went

00:07:08.300 many different ways.

00:07:09.760 But from now on, when they come, I want them to understand that, like,

00:07:13.580 I get it.

00:07:15.920 You know, she's like, Robbie, you made that lesbian post. 1.00

00:07:18.480 All you care about media and how dare you criticize media. 0.97

00:07:21.040 Or don't you think that's hypocritical that you're criticizing media?

00:07:23.340 And I'm like, well, I'm not saying that media can't cover stories.

00:07:26.900 What I want you guys to do is understand that this has an impact on us.

00:07:29.900 Like, I mean, every time we turn around, there's, I mean,

00:07:33.280 there's some sort of documentary film career.

00:07:34.920 Some do, some have an amazing time and they, they do good work.

00:07:40.120 And it's a good story.

00:07:41.100 Some are huge, like, and they have big press.

00:07:43.400 Some completely backfire, like Jane Fonda.

00:07:45.580 But there's always someone come in here to kind of talk about us.

00:07:48.540 And I have given, like, myself for the past five years,

00:07:52.320 like, when they come, I give them the best to her possible.

00:07:55.320 I try my best.

00:07:56.580 I mean, I had a strange one where this one girl, 0.98

00:07:59.000 she went and played the violin at an abandoned oil sands site.

00:08:03.180 You know, she came in from New York City to play a violin. 0.89

00:08:06.480 Whatever, whatever floats your boat on.

00:08:07.880 Oh, God.

00:08:08.380 But it was the first time I think, I think we're kind of like, I think we're at that point now.

00:08:13.220 We're going to say, okay, why are you here?

00:08:14.920 What's the premise of your story?

00:08:16.120 Are you coming here with an open mind?

00:08:17.760 Are you simply just going to fly over the tailings ponds and then take your video?

00:08:22.640 And if so, well, then we're going to at least stand up and say, look, like,

00:08:26.980 there are people here with lives that this is their community and they care about it.

00:08:30.960 And honestly, like, we're just trying to get about our business.

00:08:33.560 Like, we're trying to get a pipeline approved.

00:08:35.300 We're trying to figure out what we're doing about our low housing prices.

00:08:38.960 Like, I mean, it's, you know, it's definitely an interesting world we're in,

00:08:42.020 but I'm happy that there was a little bit of bite back.

00:08:47.200 Yeah, I'm really pleased.

00:08:48.440 And I think you're probably the, here's the thing.

00:08:52.840 You're an oil sands activist.

00:08:54.720 You do this out of really the goodness of your heart.

00:08:57.600 You're really not getting paid to confront these activists that come into your town.

00:09:01.840 Um, but you're the only one who organized the pushback.

00:09:05.800 And that's disappointing to me because you have an MLA, you have an MP and a mayor

00:09:09.420 who they're getting paid to defend your community.

00:09:12.540 And yet you are organizing the opposition.

00:09:15.380 Um, and I hope after seeing what you were able to do on really a moment's notice,

00:09:21.340 um, that they sort of take up the reins and do what they were elected to do.

00:09:25.480 And that's defend the best interests of Fort McMurray.

00:09:27.420 Um, I, I do hope, like, I, I want more, like, I'd like to see more support at these events

00:09:35.260 that we try to put on.

00:09:36.140 I agree with you there.

00:09:36.720 Like, if this was Calgary, you'd have a lot more people.

00:09:39.460 And, you know, I agree with that.

00:09:41.740 Yeah.

00:09:42.100 Now, next thing I wanted to talk to you about, of course, is the Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion

00:09:48.360 that has once again been put on hold so that it can go through more legal wrangling.

00:09:54.940 Apparently six, um, new appeals are going to be heard.

00:09:59.140 Um, and the main criticism, at least from me, is that the last time the pipeline was delayed,

00:10:07.560 the court laid out, now, agree or disagree with the court, normally I tend to disagree

00:10:12.300 with these appeals courts, um, decisions on pipelines, but they very clearly laid out

00:10:17.580 to the liberals what they needed to do to meet the criteria to avoid the pipeline being

00:10:23.260 delayed again.

00:10:23.860 And it sounds like they didn't do any of that.

00:10:25.520 And they also didn't make any arguments for or against the pipeline.

00:10:31.200 They just let the activists run the show.

00:10:32.960 And whether or not you agree with the pipeline, certainly it's the government's role to protect

00:10:37.860 the taxpayer investment in that pipeline.

00:10:39.860 And they didn't do any of it.

00:10:41.700 What do you think?

00:10:47.040 Ah, I think that it's, um, very rude to call an election on September 11th.

00:10:55.440 Yeah.

00:10:56.340 Um, I have honestly no response for this.

00:11:00.080 Um, I'm, it's, uh, we have an election coming up and I'm going to stay nonpartisan like I

00:11:06.240 always have.

00:11:07.340 But what I will say is that, um, this pipeline is in our national interest and you, when you

00:11:16.980 elect people to office and they take roles of like energy minister, attorney general or

00:11:22.980 whatever, and they get in those positions.

00:11:24.780 I understand that for a time period when you're running for elections, like partisan politics is

00:11:28.720 just insane, but you want to know that those people have the best interest of the country

00:11:32.800 at heart.

00:11:33.580 And you really want to believe that they didn't just spend seven point, whatever

00:11:37.280 billion dollars on them.

00:11:38.540 I don't know if you paid for it.

00:11:39.560 I mean, you're different numbers, but 4.5 to start to start.

00:11:44.560 So, okay.

00:11:44.880 So 4.5 to start, but they're, I think they're projecting close to $7 billion, um, $4.5 billion,

00:11:51.120 which is a lot of money, which is, um, you know, which we need this pipeline.

00:11:58.060 It's in the national interest.

00:11:59.360 And you would think that after paying that pipeline and taking our, um, Kinder Morgan out

00:12:06.960 of the equation, that this would be a priority and you would have your best lawyers on it.

00:12:11.400 You would not be dropping the ball.

00:12:13.000 There would not be a single, uh, T not crossed or an I not dotted and I'm concerned.

00:12:19.540 Um, when you have such, like, we need this pipeline.

00:12:26.000 There's, this isn't a, this isn't a want, um, if we don't get this pipeline, what's going

00:12:31.700 to happen is you're going to see Alberto like kind of collapse in time, maybe not right

00:12:35.660 away, but it will, it'll slowly start to fizzle.

00:12:38.420 Um, you're going to see, uh, more investment leave.

00:12:42.660 Um, you're going to see a lot of very, very angry Albertans.

00:12:46.340 And I understand that parts of Canada are doing good economically.

00:12:49.700 Well, that's really easy when, you know, you have a government borrowing money to prop

00:12:54.020 it up.

00:12:54.960 Um, but we in Alberta need this pipeline and long-term, I would say four or five years

00:13:01.200 from now, the rest of Canada will realize the importance of Alberta.

00:13:04.040 Uh, I hope that, you know, it's, uh, if we don't get this pipeline and they try to do

00:13:10.100 something, say in a, in a few years, it'll be too little, too late.

00:13:15.460 So now it boils down to which party can, I suppose, get a pipeline.

00:13:19.340 And, um, I'm, I'm completely sad that this isn't a priority.

00:13:24.820 This has not been taken seriously.

00:13:26.740 I don't know what's happening.

00:13:27.940 I don't, um, you know, I'm 41 years old.

00:13:31.180 Um, that's not my grinder age and, um, I'm, I, I'm blown away at the fact that this is

00:13:39.800 not a priority.

00:13:41.440 Um, you know, and, and we've been fighting this for quite a while and mostly on our own

00:13:45.880 dimes, we don't have some U S whatever organization, trust fund babies, whatever, giving us a check

00:13:55.380 for $2 million so we can continue to, uh, do this.

00:13:59.820 We're like, I mean, I'm, we're, I'm doing the best I can with what I have, trying to keep

00:14:03.020 my business going advocacy in my spare time.

00:14:06.800 And, um, I'm terrified.

00:14:08.960 Um, I don't have an answer to this, but once again, when you have a government that's been

00:14:13.980 elected, you hope that no matter what happens, that they have the best interests of our country

00:14:19.500 at heart.

00:14:19.860 Um, and that, you know, when you think about it, what the liberals were willing to do for

00:14:26.640 SNC Lavalin, they were willing to literally break the law, um, to do, uh, you know, a

00:14:35.020 solid for a corrupt Quebec based company, an engineering firm called SNC Lavalin, uh, an

00:14:42.120 engineering firm that once bought hookers for Muammar Gaddafi's son and routinely brought

00:14:46.840 him over to Canada to work on his English, um, they were willing to break the law.

00:14:52.480 And yet when it comes to something that's in Alberta's best interest, but like you point

00:14:58.760 out in the best interest of the entire country, they couldn't even present a sound legal argument

00:15:05.120 for or against to protect their investment.

00:15:08.820 Um, and they do have the ability to say that this is in the national interest and just build

00:15:14.860 a pipeline, but they aren't.

00:15:16.180 And I think that says a lot about, um, how this liberal government feels about Alberta

00:15:22.240 and the West who alluded to, um, a $2 million, um, handout to an environmental activist.

00:15:31.000 Um, and that indeed happened.

00:15:33.700 It was given to a woman who fancies herself to be the nemesis of Robbie Picard, Sephora Berman, 0.85

00:15:40.060 a former Rachel Notley employee.

00:15:42.680 She just got a $2 million U.S. climate award from an American environmental group called

00:15:48.020 the Climate Breakthrough Project.

00:15:50.480 And she's supposed to take that money to develop a strategic approach to limiting new oil and 1.00

00:15:59.140 gas development globally to align with the UN Paris Agreement goals of a safe climate, at

00:16:04.260 least according to the news release about the award.

00:16:07.020 Now, the point I want to make is that if this were Russian money flowing into the country

00:16:15.000 for any reason, but if it were flowing into, let's say, promote oil and gas, which the Russians

00:16:21.320 would never do.

00:16:22.020 They'd love to block our oil and gas, especially our gas. 0.98

00:16:24.980 But if Russian money were dumping into the country to support things that conservatives

00:16:28.740 cared about, everybody would be absolutely losing their marbles over this.

00:16:33.720 Berman gets money from the Americans, and nobody's talking about foreign collusion at all.

00:16:40.580 Oh, you know, I've had a lot of time to think about Sephora Berman lately, and I'm not surprised

00:16:50.360 that she's going to get this money.

00:16:51.520 And honestly, we know who's funding the anti-oil sands, anti-Canadian movement, anti-Canadian energy

00:17:02.360 movement. And now that Vivian Krause, you know, she's done her research and we're going to have

00:17:08.780 the inquiry, we're going to find out more. But truthfully, what they're going to do is they're

00:17:12.260 just going to change how they give the money. It's going to be done differently. And I think

00:17:15.820 you're going to see more of this type of way of doing it. And I'm honestly, I am.

00:17:24.220 I'm disgusted that more people aren't concerned about what has happened here. And there's not

00:17:35.300 more outrage to this. We all like, I mean, that $2 million is just part of what she that's what we

00:17:41.260 know about. That's not the rest of it. We don't may or may not know about, in addition to her wage and 0.89

00:17:46.560 all of the rest of the money that they have. We as Canadians, I'm not even going to blame the

00:17:53.360 government. Why? We need to say, look, this is our future. And we have to get off this delusional

00:18:01.100 notion that somehow that we are going to eradicate fossil fuels in the next 20 years. And frankly,

00:18:07.180 if Canada stopped all oil production tomorrow, it would make no dint in the world's carbon

00:18:12.900 pollution, period. So my, my friend, Sephora, I don't, I'm trying, candidly, I'm trying to figure

00:18:22.060 out what to how to respond to her. So after, you know, I opened the war room, and I held up that

00:18:28.500 sign that said, Sephora Berman, enemy of the oil sands. You know, she's constantly, you know, 0.99

00:18:35.600 bringing up about that she got attacked. Apparently, some guy tried to assault her at an airport. Now,

00:18:42.000 that was pre, for the record, pre, that would happen two years prior to the war midsend.

00:18:47.280 You know what, I want, I want to, I want to talk about that. So before we skip ahead, actually,

00:18:51.600 I had, I actually brought up the article on my computer, because it is so unbelievable,

00:18:57.100 in that I literally do not believe it happened the way she described. It's part of an article from

00:19:03.100 the National Observer called the Campaign to Silence Sephora Berman. And she, she points out,

00:19:11.300 or she alleges, that after she was appointed to the oil sands advisory group, so before Jason Kenney

00:19:20.220 even announced that he's going to run for the leadership of the PCs, then win the leadership of

00:19:25.840 the PCs, then unite the parties, and then run for the leadership of that party, and then win as

00:19:34.160 premier. She alleges that somehow Jason Kenney and Donald Trump, who also at the time wasn't president

00:19:39.960 yet, are somehow, due to their rhetoric, responsible for an alleged assault that happened to her in one of

00:19:47.720 the most surveilled buildings in the entire country. And I can't even believe journalists are letting her 0.52

00:19:53.000 get away with saying that, this. She says that she was at the Edmonton International Airport,

00:20:02.340 and this, these are her words. So I'm, imagine this is on the departure side, through security. So she says,

00:20:11.500 she was assaulted at the Edmonton Airport. A huge man came toward me, yelling at me, and then he grabbed me,

00:20:20.060 started shaking me, and there was spit flying into my face. I was scared. I twisted away from him, and ran into the

00:20:30.980 women's bathroom, and hid in a stall for a long time. She ventured out in time to board her flight. The man had

00:20:38.460 gone. I absolutely, I'm saying it right now, I don't think this happened. Airports are watched and surveilled in

00:20:47.700 real time. There are literally people sitting watching monitors. She wants us to believe a ginormous

00:20:54.580 spittle-faced monster, big foot of a man, grabbed her in the Edmonton Airport, throttled her until she 0.93

00:21:02.660 writhed and twisted away, and then ran off sobbing and hid in a bathroom. And this man just sauntered off 0.98

00:21:09.620 and got on a plane. I, it's unbelievable. And yet the media just lets her say these kinds of things.

00:21:17.540 It, we see it all the time. We're seeing it again with Catherine McKenna. In an attempt to silence

00:21:22.960 everybody who's critical of the carbon tax, she's saying, well, this, this rhetoric, this being

00:21:30.800 critical of me, is somehow morphing into super misogyny. And this is just the, it's the new

00:21:37.740 shut up. They used to call us racist. Now we're sexist because we don't like the carbon tax. And

00:21:43.980 anything goes. Any manner of story that they just say without proof, apropos of nothing,

00:21:49.960 everybody just believes it like it's the gospel of Mark. I don't get it.

00:21:53.680 Um, okay. So, um, sorry, I was on quite a tangent there. No, no. And I, I'm going to actually,

00:22:01.120 I've got a, I got a good response for this. Okay. So, um, I'm going to leave Catherine McKenna's one.

00:22:06.460 I'm going to set that aside because, um, that one, I don't, I have never, I've never, I've never,

00:22:12.240 I've never done a meme on Catherine. I've never, I've never, I don't, I try to stay nonpartisan.

00:22:17.720 The, oh, I've taken the odd shot at Trudeau when he, you know, dresses up as Mr. Dress Up when he goes on

00:22:22.660 an India trip and the fact that we don't have a pipeline. Um, but what I will do is I'll, I'm

00:22:27.920 going to, I'm going to, I'm going to take this to another level here and I'm actually going to

00:22:31.100 include you in this. So Sapporo Berman, for instance, like if somebody, if somebody, here's

00:22:37.220 my message to Sapporo. Okay. So I, I completely get it. Sapporo, you and I don't agree and like

00:22:42.220 each other. And I, I'm actually quite impressed that you got $2 million for your rackets. Um, I mean,

00:22:47.540 you have made an amazing, amazing career, um, you know, trying to shut down the industry

00:22:53.640 that we're trying to protect. And I mean, you're ahead of us right now. I mean, wow, $2 million

00:22:59.120 to fantasize about how you're going to get rid of fossil fuels. Good on you. But if somebody

00:23:06.240 grabs you at an airport, um, call security and get them arrested. And I find it really

00:23:17.040 funny how there's this outrage or something that no one saw happen. Uh, I'm not saying

00:23:21.620 did or didn't, I wasn't there, but you could probably actually, I mean, I imagine airports

00:23:26.600 keep security footage for a very, very long time. You probably can name the time and date

00:23:31.480 of your flight and you can probably find the perpetrator who grabbed you and spit in your

00:23:35.100 face or, and go from there. And, and when it comes to people being physical, there needs

00:23:41.580 to be a, not a double standard. So I have a friend of mine who is a reporter who was at

00:23:46.560 a woman's rally and some guy, um, physically, you know, tried to punch her, punched her camera

00:23:53.100 and the camera hit her in the head. It was all on tape and very few people on the left gave,

00:23:58.280 uh, gave a sweet about it, even though she was, uh, clearly a female. And the entire video

00:24:04.720 was quite passive. Hey, what are you up to? Why? You know, it wasn't even a typical thing.

00:24:09.200 And that was on tape. And what did my friend do? She did everything within her power to get 0.97

00:24:14.400 the guy exposed. So support, you have massive reach and you've got $2 million in the bank

00:24:18.880 or you have access, uh, you know, do something, um, call and find out who this guy was. Um,

00:24:26.400 but at the same time, and this is where I'm struggling because, um, I never want anyone

00:24:32.580 to hurt support or Berman, support or Berman. Um, and frankly, um, my idea for calling her

00:24:37.620 enemy, the oil sands came from Chatelaine magazine and Chatelaine magazine did an article where she's, 0.78

00:24:43.180 they said she's a, how did support or Berman become, um, the oil and gas number one enemy?

00:24:48.560 Yeah. And they are that that's unreadable feminist garbage Chatelaine magazine. So if it's okay for the 1.00

00:24:54.740 feminists at Chatelaine magazine to say about her, then it's not sexist when you say it, 1.00

00:25:00.560 my gay matey friend. Am I being sexist by not fighting the same fight? Uh, I don't, um, I,

00:25:06.460 I don't care who my opponent is. I'm fair. I, I try to fight fair. Um, I try not to be too personal,

00:25:12.800 but I'm also not scared to stand up to anybody. And, um, I've stood up to David Suzuki. I've stood up

00:25:17.940 to Mike Adima. I've stood up to most of the green, the Greenpeace crew and Fonda.

00:25:24.740 Yes. Leonardo DiCaprio and Neil Young. I mean, it's not, to me, it doesn't matter if someone's

00:25:29.200 a woman or not. And frankly, I don't, most of my mentors, my business mentors, people in Fort

00:25:34.100 McMurray are all females, business people, successful people. Um, and then pretty easy 1.00

00:25:38.940 to work with. I recently actually had a really good conversation with the former energy minister,

00:25:43.300 Margaret McCraig-Boyd. Then I, um, met with the current energy minister provincially. I got posed

00:25:47.900 to the post picture with both of them. Um, I'm, you know, I've, I've, I've, I've worked with Rachel

00:25:53.400 Notley to best of my ability when she was premier. I've tried to stay nonpartisan. So, but I'm not

00:25:58.940 going to be silenced. And I think it's a very vicious thing to silence people by accusing them

00:26:03.820 of, uh, doing things. I'm like trying to imply that what am I supposed to do? Like if, if someone's

00:26:10.400 a woman, I'm supposed to take it like softer and not say the same things I'd say to a guy. 0.99

00:26:14.220 Um, I don't think that's, that's how it is. I think if you, if your support department is a

00:26:19.300 public figure, she's very, very, I mean, it's hilarious. She's like, she does a post on Twitter. 0.99

00:26:26.140 She's like, um, call to war basically. Like, um, I don't know what the, what it was. I can't

00:26:31.340 remember. Yeah. She's like a sort of a war cry. Um, warrior up warrior up, right? Okay. You're

00:26:37.200 worrying up. And then if someone calls you out and says, well, your enemy, the oil sands, all

00:26:41.180 less misogynistic. And, and, um, if someone's threatening you, Sephora and call 9-1-1, you know,

00:26:47.800 take care of, take care of that. And if you're at an airport, I mean, that should be easy.

00:26:51.780 Don't run to the bathroom, pull the fire alarm, go get security, do what you need to do,

00:26:56.460 but don't scream, scream, say, get your hands off me, like protect yourself, you know? Um, and I,

00:27:03.040 and, and, and I, I don't quite know what the angle there, and I really hope that it's not,

00:27:07.080 you know, just to silence us. I mean, um, I think that, uh, I think that we're in a time

00:27:15.060 where you're going to have a lot of people that are very upset about what's happening.

00:27:19.200 And, um, it's great that Ontario and Quebec are doing decent after, because Alberta did

00:27:24.640 decent for so long, but people are terrified. And frankly, for all of your support, for all

00:27:31.320 of your environmental activism you've done, um, you haven't created one job in Alberta.

00:27:37.160 It's not like any of this. I mean, if you look at, we have a free market system. So if you had

00:27:41.380 an energy source tomorrow, I don't believe, I mean, if, if suddenly, okay, all this energy

00:27:45.980 source was going to replace oil tomorrow, you'd see it. You're not. When you're seeing windmills

00:27:50.780 not work in Germany, going back to coal, you see that they've spent trillions of dollars

00:27:55.380 on the so-called green energy, which is horrible. You see what's happened in Ontario with the

00:28:01.980 power rates going up and people can barely feed themselves. So it's, it's a very interesting

00:28:07.820 time. And, um, respectfully, I mean, um, I don't certainly don't want anyone to threaten

00:28:13.600 her, but I'm not going to stop my advocacy out of fear because I'm not, I'm, I'm, she's

00:28:19.820 my opponent on many, many issues. I, I was trying to find common ground, like something

00:28:24.020 we could agree on. It's hard to agree with, on, with her. It really truly is. I've watched

00:28:28.880 every video she's ever done. And then there's just not a lot, not a lot there to work with.

00:28:35.020 Now, the last thing I wanted to talk to you about today, since you're being generous, so

00:28:40.360 generous with your time, I'm going to take up a little bit more, um, Amnesty International

00:28:44.660 today. I remember when they used to care about people who were wrongly imprisoned, getting

00:28:48.760 like the downtrodden out of like thought criminals, um, people who were political prisoners in

00:28:56.000 the developing world, imprisoned by oligarchs, that sort of thing. Today, they are standing

00:29:02.700 up in favor of foreign billionaires and their ability to dump millions of dollars into Canada

00:29:09.480 at activists like Zipporah Berman. Uh, they say that Jason Kenney's, um, inquest, let's call

00:29:18.980 it into foreign funding and foreign meddling in the Canadian economy and specifically in,

00:29:24.700 uh, blocking Alberta's oil and gas development. Um, they've said that the energy war room is deeply

00:29:35.480 concerning and they say these initiatives to protect Canada's economy somehow undermine

00:29:42.840 and violate a range of Alberta's human rights obligations. Standing up for foreign billionaires 0.63

00:29:49.280 while Albertans lose their jobs, their homes, their families, and everything they ever worked

00:29:54.920 for. What happened to Amnesty International? Um, I'm going to blame, I'm going to blame Fort McMurray

00:30:02.560 on this. Um, and here's what we failed to do. Um, um, I'll even take some of the responsibility.

00:30:11.380 Clearly, people at Amnesty International have this notion that there's something wrong happening

00:30:19.400 in Fort McMurray. They think that there's all these people that for some reason don't have

00:30:23.360 good paying jobs or First Nations that, um, own, you know, half a billion dollars of a Suncor

00:30:29.780 tank farm. Um, um, they somehow think that this isn't a good thing. They somehow think that what

00:30:36.420 is going on in Fort McMurray is bad. And we've done a really, really lousy job of articulating what

00:30:44.180 we are to the world. And as much as I'm trying my best, and we are getting better at it constantly

00:30:49.780 to put a better message out there, we, as Canadians, as Albertans, and as people who live in Fort McMurray,

00:30:55.780 we need to really stop letting this happen and fight because, um, our lives are comfortable.

00:31:02.480 They're not as comfortable as Sapporo Bermans, but they're pretty comfortable here. Um, and I think, 0.98

00:31:07.140 but there's a lot of uncomfortable. There's a lot of people losing their jobs. There's a lot of

00:31:10.780 poverty in Alberta right now. If we don't get our message out there, I mean, there's, we've allowed

00:31:17.240 this Sapporo Berman and Mike Kadima and all of these people to paint this picture of who we are

00:31:24.660 to the world and clearly Amnesty International. I mean, they need to have their heads examined

00:31:29.240 if they think it's a bad thing for our premier to actually give, um, to care about the future of the

00:31:36.660 province. Um, I, you know, I respect a lot of what Rachel Notley did, but the one thing I strongly

00:31:42.040 disagree with is this notion of social license. So clearly that's a big failure. Um, if we don't

00:31:50.140 get a pipeline built, if we don't get market access, the United States will slowly, slowly,

00:31:56.060 um, become, um, well, they're only are really our only customer. Um, but they're going to become,

00:32:02.300 they're going to buy our oil for cheaper. We're going to sell it less and less, and we won't have

00:32:06.180 a market. So, um, this is the war room. I mean, if it does anything, um, with the inquiry, it'll open

00:32:14.460 up, okay, what is happening here? We all know what's happening. It'll just make it more black and 1.00

00:32:18.980 white. And I respect our premier for having the courage to actually try and do something. Um, 0.55

00:32:29.760 it's not an easy thing to do, but like, you know, what we all know what's wrong. I mean,

00:32:34.020 the people, the documentary people, they said it too, like, we don't have a problem with your oil.

00:32:37.620 Now, whether they come out in the movie or whatever they're, whatever they're doing with it,

00:32:41.120 I'm not entirely sure, but I, I'm telling you right now, like, it's just, we, we here in Alberta and,

00:32:49.540 and the rest of Canada, we really got to step up in this and not accept what's happening. And it's

00:32:53.980 hard because they come at you from every different angle. They work on multiple strategies, multiple

00:32:58.900 fronts. Um, I mean, it's, but it's, it's not right. And it'd be really nice to get a united

00:33:06.840 message. It'd be nice if all Canadians on this one topic about energy sovereignty agree and get the

00:33:15.580 message out there. So clearly, I mean, Amnesty International, for them to say that they have a

00:33:20.380 bad impression and that comes because we're not loud enough. I mean, you have Naomi Klein today in New

00:33:25.640 York with Greta Thunberg. I mean, Greta is such a brilliant climate expert, you know, with all of

00:33:31.180 her vast experience and knowledge. Um, I mean, very sarcastic. Um, uh, you know, that's the paint,

00:33:38.280 the picture they're getting. Like, I mean, Naomi Klein's with Mayor Bill de Lazio. She's painting this

00:33:42.680 picture. Well, Amnesty International, all those places, like they, they spend a lot of time in New

00:33:45.920 York and that's what they're hearing. So, I mean, we need to say, we need to spend a lot of time,

00:33:54.720 energy, educating the world on us quickly and simultaneously build a pipeline. And, um, the,

00:34:02.240 whoever the government is in six weeks, um, after this election, they need to put the pipelines,

00:34:09.540 even two pipelines as in the national interest, the same as the railroad. And if that happens,

00:34:16.060 and maybe we have a shot, but if we don't get that and we continue this nonsense that we're doing now,

00:34:22.220 I don't know. And Amnesty International, I mean, we, we're the greatest country in the world,

00:34:26.420 um, for many reasons. Um, people talk about, like, I had a conversation the other day about

00:34:32.600 all these people, you know, immigrants saying, well, you know, Canadians, they're not accepting 0.99

00:34:36.460 as immigrants and all this stuff. And I'm like, well, the way I look at it, the way I look at it

00:34:40.740 is this, if our country wasn't great, why are so many people trying to get into it?

00:34:44.780 Same with the States. If America wasn't so great, why are people trying to get into it? If Mexico is 0.98

00:34:48.960 better than the States, why would they just stay there? We're very lucky in America, Canada and

00:34:53.580 America for this time period are probably the greatest two countries in the world. We still

00:34:58.520 have a very good capitalist society. And if you work hard, you can get ahead. And, and if you're,

00:35:05.000 if you screw up, there's social programs for you. It's almost the perfect balance. And if we don't

00:35:10.320 protect it by protecting our economy and our future and our, um, infrastructure to get our

00:35:18.560 oils to market, we're going to be screwed. And I don't know why they're trying to screw us so bad,

00:35:23.880 but partially is because we're a very big country with a very small population. And what we achieve,

00:35:31.240 what we achieve with what we have is amazing, but we need to, we need to, nevermind just explaining

00:35:36.080 it to the world. We need to believe it ourselves. And we don't. I think we need to explain it to

00:35:42.800 some of our fellow Canadians, our fellow Canadians in British Columbia, our fellow Canadians in, uh,

00:35:49.720 Quebec. I think, um, we haven't done a lot to educate them, um, on how, how they benefit from a

00:35:58.480 wealthy Alberta. Now, Robbie, I want to give you a chance to, uh, tell everybody how they can find

00:36:06.060 the work you do, um, and support the work you do because like I pointed out, most of this,

00:36:12.580 all the, uh, most of the advocacy, advocacy you do is out of pocket. It's real simple. Um,

00:36:19.020 go to oil soundstrong.com and buy two shirts and a hoodie, and then make sure to wear it at your

00:36:24.600 government, uh, local government building, like the Senate and get your picture taken.

00:36:31.400 That's fantastic. Robbie, thank you so much for coming on the show. And we'll talk again soon for

00:36:35.660 having me.

00:36:47.620 I think Premier Jason Kenney said it best when he responded to the busybodies at Amnesty International

00:36:54.960 this way. He said Amnesty International used to actually fight for releasing prisoners of conscience.

00:37:00.780 Now it's fighting to protect foreign funded billionaires from transparency when they're

00:37:06.680 funding a campaign to landlock Canadian energy. Kenney also said Amnesty International should be

00:37:13.920 more concerned about the world's use of oil from countries with poor human rights records like 0.92

00:37:20.780 Saudi Arabia and Russia instead of Canada. Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thanks so

00:37:26.820 much for tuning in. I'll see you back here in the same time in the same place next week. And remember,

00:37:32.720 don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

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Rebel News Podcast - September 12, 2019

Liberal find a new way to stop pipelines： Blame sexism

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