Rebel News Podcast - June 16, 2018


Liberal MPs say voting on the carbon tax at the end of Ramadan is an insult to Muslims


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Justin Trudeau wants to keep the cost of his carbon tax a secret from the public. Ezra Levant explains why that's a bad idea. Plus, why Parliament should be allowed to sit on the Muslim holiday of Ramadan, and why it should not.

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00:00:00.000 Tonight, Liberal MPs argue that Parliament shouldn't sit on the Muslim holiday of Ramadan.
00:00:05.600 It's June 15th and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:13.660 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:17.480 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:21.200 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.
00:00:24.560 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it
00:00:28.140 is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:34.940 So Justin Trudeau doesn't want to tell Canadians how much his carbon tax is going to cost us.
00:00:39.240 He knows because they study that sort of thing in Ottawa.
00:00:42.180 They do research into it. They run models. They have experts.
00:00:44.860 You'd want your government to have someone estimating the impacts of such a tax.
00:00:49.120 How could politicians who aren't experts know if they're making the right decisions without weighing all the facts?
00:00:53.760 But Trudeau refuses to disclose that information.
00:00:56.860 It's not a state secret. It's not a military secret. It's not a commercial secret.
00:01:00.920 There's no legal or constitutional or moral reason to keep the cost of the carbon tax hidden.
00:01:06.080 I'm just giving examples of reasons that are sometimes used to keep government information secret.
00:01:11.400 But none of that applies here.
00:01:13.260 It's something much more obvious. Trudeau is politically embarrassed
00:01:15.360 because he knows Canadians love to say they're concerned about global warming,
00:01:19.720 but no one actually means it. Enough at least to pay an extra, what, I don't know, 30 cents a liter for gas, just as an example.
00:01:26.700 It's easy to tell a pollster you care.
00:01:29.020 You really, really deeply care about global warming
00:01:31.660 because just say it and then you hang up the phone.
00:01:34.700 That makes you sound very woke and very sensitive.
00:01:37.500 On a phone call, you know what the right answer is that the pollster is expecting.
00:01:41.300 But come on, have you ever seen an environmentalist who does not drive a car, who does not fly on planes,
00:01:47.800 who does not use plastic or artificial fibers in their life?
00:01:50.560 Yeah, me neither.
00:01:52.380 So my point is no one actually means it when they say they'd want to pay more to fix global warming.
00:01:57.100 Although if a carbon tax would actually fix global warming, maybe some people might pay more.
00:02:02.480 But no one actually believes a carbon tax will change the weather.
00:02:05.640 Not even liberals believe that.
00:02:06.760 They don't actually say it will change the climate.
00:02:09.080 They always just say it is symbolic to show that we're doing our part, as they say, doing our part at nothing.
00:02:15.560 Doing our part symbolically.
00:02:18.400 Because it doesn't make a difference.
00:02:19.580 So Trudeau doesn't want to show the true cost that would come with that virtue signaling.
00:02:24.160 Here's what access to information documents about the subject looked like.
00:02:27.580 This is from Pierre Polyev who requested them.
00:02:29.600 You see that blacked out part at the bottom?
00:02:31.460 Anyways, the federal conservatives know this is a winning issue.
00:02:34.440 Doug Ford ran for the premier of Ontario and won with the most blazingly anti-carbon tax platform possible.
00:02:41.480 And look at that.
00:02:41.920 Look at that.
00:02:42.280 Just today having a big press conference on the subject.
00:02:44.800 Look at that podium there.
00:02:45.700 That's awesome.
00:02:47.100 So much for that consensus that existed in Ontario just six months ago when all the parties were unanimously saying they believed in the carbon tax.
00:02:53.880 That is over.
00:02:54.960 I am excited about it.
00:02:56.000 The momentum is shifting.
00:02:57.540 And Trudeau wants to keep the degree of pain of a carbon tax is secret.
00:03:01.420 So the conservatives have used what little power they have in parliament to force a series of votes on the matter to embarrass the liberals into having to cover up for the PM and revealing the facts.
00:03:11.120 Now, they've done this before, the conservatives, when Trudeau lied about that India fiasco.
00:03:15.460 Remember when he sent out a staffer to lie about rogue India agents planting a terrorist in his Canadian delegation?
00:03:21.520 The conservatives had a bunch of votes in parliament to try to smoke up the truth, but the liberals dug in to protect the shiny pony.
00:03:27.380 So the votes were held on the carbon tax matter.
00:03:31.900 They were scheduled, as votes always are, in a majority government by the governing party's house leader.
00:03:36.340 In this case, Bardish Chaggar is her name.
00:03:38.500 They were scheduled for last night, which makes sense because if you know about MPs, especially the far-flung ones, a lot of them go home to their ridings on Friday.
00:03:47.440 So Thursday night is actually the best time for a vote.
00:03:49.900 Okay, so far so boring, right?
00:03:52.560 But guess what?
00:03:53.800 It's the end of Ramadan.
00:03:56.060 So it's the Muslim religious holiday of Eid.
00:03:59.840 So it's a big party.
00:04:00.700 Here's a scene from Toronto.
00:04:09.860 That's Toronto.
00:04:10.840 You betcha.
00:04:11.780 So what's my point?
00:04:12.460 Well, all of a sudden, last night, all sorts of liberal MPs began tweeting, just before the votes, that to proceed with this embarrassing vote about the carbon tax, why, that's an insult to Islam.
00:04:28.440 Because, you see, it was during the end of Ramadan feast of Eid.
00:04:33.860 So the conservatives shouldn't have scheduled the votes then, the bigots.
00:04:37.420 Of course, conservatives don't have the power to schedule votes.
00:04:40.120 That's something that the liberal majority house leader does.
00:04:42.880 But so what?
00:04:43.740 Wanting a vote to reveal the cost of the carbon tax, that's, um, that's Islamophobic.
00:04:50.520 I kid you not.
00:04:51.700 Here's Bill Blair, a dopey liberal MP.
00:04:54.560 He wrote,
00:04:54.880 Okay, here's an explanation.
00:05:12.560 You're an MP and you have work.
00:05:14.400 You're a member of parliament.
00:05:19.520 Suggests where you should be.
00:05:20.940 It's what you do.
00:05:22.800 I'm sure some other liberal hack can visit the mosques and you're riding to schmooze. 0.98
00:05:26.980 Bill Blair, you're not a religious leader.
00:05:28.600 You're not Muslim. 1.00
00:05:29.640 You're not a member of any mosque.
00:05:31.180 You're just saying in a really weird way that you think Muslim holidays should be de facto government of Canada holidays.
00:05:39.300 That's what that means.
00:05:40.520 What a kook.
00:05:41.340 Here's another liberal MP named Gagin Sikand.
00:05:45.620 Now he is Sikh.
00:05:46.700 He is not Muslim. 1.00
00:05:48.040 And he wrote,
00:05:49.660 I want Andrew Scheer conservatives to explain to my riding that I'm missing Ede El-Futter because they want to vote all night just to waste time.
00:05:58.080 Hey guys, it's just to waste time.
00:06:00.640 Yeah, Gagin, you're not Muslim either.
00:06:03.420 In fact, it's an interesting story, Gagin Sikand.
00:06:06.880 He actually didn't vote with the liberals for M103.
00:06:09.660 Almost all of them did.
00:06:10.600 That was the anti-Islamophobia motion.
00:06:13.160 Gagin Sikand bravely abstained.
00:06:16.160 That's a lot of courage.
00:06:16.900 That's as much courage as any liberal gets.
00:06:18.820 Because his riding was so split on the subject.
00:06:22.620 And believe me, that probably took some effort to be permitted to not vote for M103 as a liberal.
00:06:26.660 But suddenly he's found religion, someone else's religion.
00:06:30.480 And he used it as an excuse to claim that if the conservatives were meanies for making him do his job.
00:06:38.620 On a night scheduled by his party's officer, where if he really, really cared, he could probably just go get his free meal.
00:06:49.300 Well, because the liberal government has a majority.
00:06:51.440 And it's not like they'd ever lose a vote.
00:06:52.980 They could spare a few of these deeply religious MPs going away.
00:06:56.460 But look at this one.
00:06:57.080 This is my absolute favorite.
00:06:58.220 Mark Holland.
00:06:59.200 Obviously a white guy.
00:07:01.720 Let me show you his tweet.
00:07:03.040 He said,
00:07:04.200 I was looking forward to celebrating Eid in Ajax after 30 days of fasting.
00:07:10.300 Sadly, Andrew Scheer is forcing 30 hours of unnecessary votes all through this most holy of Muslim holidays.
00:07:17.760 I will miss being with you in Ajax this year and wish everyone observing Eid Mubarak.
00:07:24.180 Now, did you see that?
00:07:28.340 He is following a Muslim religious ritual, fasting for 30 days.
00:07:35.760 Isn't that what he wrote?
00:07:38.060 I mean, fasting during the day is what Muslims do during Ramadan. 0.94
00:07:41.100 And he's not Muslim, but is he crazy? 0.90
00:07:45.020 See, and he's fasting, but he's not Muslim. 0.99
00:07:49.880 And he's calling it a most holy day.
00:07:53.060 He's not Muslim. 1.00
00:07:54.380 I have never seen such pandering in my life, to be honest.
00:07:58.940 I don't even believe a word of it.
00:08:00.600 Do you actually believe that Mark Holland doesn't eat a bite or drink a drop of water all day and only eats at night,
00:08:06.680 as observant Muslims do during Ramadan?
00:08:09.220 Or do you think it's just more likely that he's lying and just making the biggest pander you've ever seen in your life?
00:08:16.020 Oh, my God.
00:08:17.220 But seriously, the most kooky part of that whole kooky kookiness was when he said these are unnecessary votes.
00:08:26.500 That's what they're saying.
00:08:27.080 Hey, guys, we have a liberal majority government and we're here to say you opposition MPs, you don't need to vote.
00:08:31.740 It's so unnecessary.
00:08:33.100 You don't need to be here.
00:08:35.580 Just go home.
00:08:36.820 I mean, why are you even bothering?
00:08:39.400 It's so unnecessary.
00:08:41.820 If you think that's unnecessary, question period.
00:08:44.420 What a hassle.
00:08:46.040 Come on, guys.
00:08:46.560 Just accept the fact that we're keeping the carbon taxes cost secret.
00:08:49.740 And if you disagree, you're an Islamophobe.
00:08:52.540 I'm serious, actually.
00:08:53.600 I'm serious that I'm serious.
00:08:54.700 Here's Omar al-Jabra, the ringleader, shrieking in a tweet to conservative Aaron O'Toole, the MP for the Tories,
00:09:02.760 who pointed out how kooky this sort of form letter tweet was that they were all tweeting at the same time.
00:09:08.360 Here's what al-Jabra said.
00:09:09.180 He said,
00:09:10.400 You don't believe Islamophobia exists!
00:09:12.960 Exclamation point.
00:09:14.220 You disrespect the importance of Eid!
00:09:16.640 Exclamation point.
00:09:18.040 You will be voting all night against funding to veterans, RCMP, and CAF members!
00:09:21.980 Exclamation point.
00:09:22.660 It's clear who needs to apologize!
00:09:24.700 Hey, buddy, just take it down a notch.
00:09:29.260 Just take it down just a little bit, you kooky, kooky, crazy nutjob.
00:09:33.860 Omar al-Jabra, of course, was the former president of the Canadian Arab Federation,
00:09:37.500 a group that lobbied to legalize terrorist groups, Hamas and Hezbollah.
00:09:43.220 Omar al-Jabra is the most extreme Islamist in all of Parliament.
00:09:47.320 And, of course, he calls everyone who wants to, you know, work during their work.
00:09:53.600 Well, he calls them an Islamophobe.
00:09:55.240 And if you don't respect the holiness of Eid, well, then you're a bigot.
00:10:00.480 So what do we have here?
00:10:01.420 Well, of course, we have a liberal government that is hiding the truth about the carbon tax,
00:10:04.800 that is willing to go to the wall to protect the lies of Justin Trudeau.
00:10:08.660 I mean, duh.
00:10:09.940 And, of course, we also have a liberal government that's lazy.
00:10:11.880 They want to take days off and nights off like their lazy leader, Justin, and his 56 vacations.
00:10:17.500 Of course, we have hypocrisy.
00:10:19.460 It was their own party that scheduled the vote on the night that they did.
00:10:23.620 But none of that is as important as what we have learned that's new.
00:10:28.380 And that's the definition of Islamophobia that the liberals want to enshrine into law.
00:10:32.920 And it's this.
00:10:34.700 If you do anything whatsoever that hurts the feelings of Muslims or of liberal suck-ups to Islam like freaky Mark Holland, the fake faster, 0.99
00:10:45.920 if you do anything, you'll be called an Islamophobe.
00:10:49.980 If you ask the wrong questions, if you want unnecessary votes, you're an Islamophobe.
00:10:55.880 The word literally means nothing now, except that the liberals want to label you a hater.
00:11:03.760 Don't like the carbon tax?
00:11:05.740 You Islamophobe.
00:11:07.140 Want to be a real opposition party and oppose a vote?
00:11:10.520 Islamophobe.
00:11:11.700 It couldn't be clearer.
00:11:12.740 It was always a hoax.
00:11:14.920 But now we just know how shameless it is.
00:11:18.240 Stay with us for more.
00:11:25.880 We'll be right back.
00:11:55.880 It was the most important newspaper in that election because they were the ones doing the real due diligence on the various parties and their candidates.
00:12:04.640 And one of the reporters who brought spectacular stories to the front page, in addition to our friend Joe Warmington, is our friend Sue Ann Levy.
00:12:13.440 And she joins us now in the studio.
00:12:14.940 So it's great to see you again.
00:12:16.020 Hey, Ezra.
00:12:16.680 Nice to see you.
00:12:17.380 Well, you know, last time we had you on, I think, it was to talk about your book, Underdog, Confession of a Right-Wing Gay Jewish Muckraker.
00:12:24.600 That's a heck of a lot of great adjectives together.
00:12:28.120 You broke a lot of stories about some NDP candidates that if they had not been vetted by you, God forbid, they might even be cabinet ministers today.
00:12:36.000 Oh, my God.
00:12:36.620 And some of them got in.
00:12:37.760 Give me an example of some of the crazy, crazy that you detected.
00:12:40.480 Who got in?
00:12:41.120 Who actually got in?
00:12:42.100 Let's go through some of your hits.
00:12:43.160 Tell me about some of the stories you broke.
00:12:44.740 Well, the one woman who got in, in my own riding, St. Paul's, is a fat, black activist, queer activist. 1.00
00:12:54.680 She's allied with Black Lives Matter.
00:12:57.320 I'm actually heartbroken that she got in.
00:12:59.980 And she made her living off of getting people or speaking up about fat shaming and actually giving talks on fat shaming.
00:13:10.700 That's sort of a weird, you know, skill set that's probably not applicable to running a province.
00:13:15.440 Well, the worst thing was that, you know, what we found out and I did a story on was that right after the gay pride parade two years ago, she called the police chief a coon on her Facebook feed.
00:13:27.860 And the police, and just for those who don't know, who aren't in Toronto, the police chief in Toronto is a black man.
00:13:33.300 Is a black man.
00:13:33.780 And I don't think it makes it any better that the insulter herself was black. 1.00
00:13:38.640 In fact, I don't think that makes it any better at all.
00:13:40.680 No, no, no.
00:13:41.400 But they said that she had every right.
00:13:43.760 And she was propped up, by the way, by Desmond Cole, that radical black activist.
00:13:48.140 I think he's a very hateful man, very angry man.
00:13:51.900 And they said that it was quite fine because it was just talk between black people.
00:13:56.940 The other woman who got in, in University of Rosedale, which is a new riding, her name is Jessica Bell, formerly known as Jessica Markham, was arrested twice in Seattle for civil disobedience. 0.99
00:14:09.420 And she changed her name to sort of leave that criminal passport. 0.99
00:14:11.900 Yeah, exactly.
00:14:12.400 That's good investigative journalism.
00:14:13.980 So, you know, it started as just a couple of stories about the anti-Israel.
00:14:19.020 The other person who got in was Joel Harden in Ottawa Centre.
00:14:23.060 Thank goodness these people are not going to hold cabinet positions.
00:14:25.360 He is also a rabid promoter of the boycott, divestment, and sanctions movement and has been pushing the NDP to support that movement.
00:14:34.340 You know, I accept that I'm right-wing and that there's left-wingers and that we can have a hearty debate.
00:14:40.120 Right.
00:14:40.360 But we're not even talking about right-wing, left-wing.
00:14:42.400 When you're anti-cop, like Gurutan Singh, that's one more candidate.
00:14:45.780 Yes.
00:14:46.180 That he's an NDP or his brother's...
00:14:48.120 And then the poppy lady.
00:14:49.220 When you're holding a sign that says F-U-C-K, the police, standing next to a cop, there's a theme here.
00:14:58.460 These aren't just...
00:14:59.160 I mean, I can abide an honest leftist who makes the case, and there are some.
00:15:03.940 But these are pure identity politics smashers who are one inch over from Antifa rioters.
00:15:12.540 Well, and the big problem is that, you know, there are a roster of obviously not well-vetted, or the fact was that they were vetted because their Facebook and Twitter feeds were scrubbed completely.
00:15:24.440 We had to go back a couple of years.
00:15:26.760 They weren't vetted.
00:15:28.100 If they were vetted, then, you know, this is what they...
00:15:31.800 They met the test. People fight.
00:15:32.380 Yeah.
00:15:32.540 This is what they wanted.
00:15:33.500 They wanted social justice candidates.
00:15:34.660 And the other problem was that Andrea Horvath is a weak, I think she's still a weak leader, and she didn't speak out against all these hateful people. 0.91
00:15:43.940 Every single one of them, she found an excuse.
00:15:46.020 Yes.
00:15:46.580 Oh, I'm for free speech.
00:15:47.760 Really? Really?
00:15:48.780 Yeah.
00:15:49.140 I wish she was for free speech.
00:15:50.640 Yeah.
00:15:50.960 Well, I have to say congratulations, and I enjoyed reading your stuff.
00:15:54.220 Oh, thank you.
00:15:54.580 And I have to say, not only did I enjoy reading it, I enjoyed the reaction of the media party to your columns.
00:16:01.800 Boy, they wanted to shut you and Joe up. 0.81
00:16:03.840 Yes, they did.
00:16:04.940 That's when you know you're doing good work.
00:16:06.820 Well, the last week I went out on the campaign trail with her.
00:16:09.360 I asked to go out because I felt that they were lobbing her softball questions, the media party.
00:16:14.320 And you should have seen the looks that they gave me.
00:16:17.120 Yeah, because they were sort of at the auxiliary of the NDP.
00:16:21.460 Right.
00:16:21.960 Well, congratulations, Sue Ann.
00:16:23.400 Thank you.
00:16:23.600 I want to shift gears a little.
00:16:24.880 I mean, boy, that was a very exciting campaign.
00:16:27.760 I'm a new Ontarian.
00:16:29.280 I'm from out west, and I have to say Doug Ford has the spirit of the west in him.
00:16:33.060 Yes.
00:16:33.580 I like that about him.
00:16:35.120 Let's shift gears to the biggest city in the country, Toronto, that used to be run by Mayor Rob Ford.
00:16:40.880 And I had a soft spot for Rob.
00:16:43.600 Obviously, he's passed away now.
00:16:44.580 I found his flaws to be touching because, I mean, I wasn't thrilled about his troubles, but I thought he was, I don't know, the hatred and the viciousness.
00:16:58.420 Yeah.
00:16:58.600 I found him a sympathetic character.
00:17:01.040 Me too.
00:17:01.380 And underneath all the flaws, and we don't need to list them all.
00:17:04.880 I know it sounds weird to say there was an honest man underneath the trouble, but there was, I think.
00:17:11.180 And I think people saw that, and he had a connection with people.
00:17:15.380 I hate the fact that was, anyway, we don't need to talk about, but he was replaced by John Tory.
00:17:20.000 Mm-hmm.
00:17:20.500 Now, tell me a bit about John Tory.
00:17:21.900 Well, he's been a huge disappointment, I think, to many who voted for him.
00:17:26.120 However, I knew what we were getting into.
00:17:29.200 In fact, endorsed Doug Ford when they ran against each other in 2014.
00:17:34.760 Doug, of course, jumped in to replace his brother, who was ill, and did very well.
00:17:39.420 And I knew that John Tory was a weak man.
00:17:42.520 I knew that he would put his finger up and detect whichever way the wind blew.
00:17:48.900 And, you know, not surprisingly, he has been totally co-opted by the left on council and
00:17:53.720 their crazy ideas.
00:17:55.580 And, you know, he is, I guess, in a way, a champagne.
00:18:02.620 He's not a socialist, but he has, you know, been brought up with a silver spoon in his mouth.
00:18:07.020 But he has a sense of guilt that he has to do whatever he can to help the downtrodden.
00:18:13.240 The only thing is, is that the natives now are running the asylum in this city. 1.00
00:18:17.500 And it's very concerning to me the way he's pandered, in particular, to two leftists on
00:18:22.920 council, well, three, Kristen Wong Tam, Joe Cressy, and Joe Mahevic, all with radical agendas,
00:18:30.460 pro-safe injection site agendas, pro-shelter, throw everything wherever. 0.79
00:18:35.520 Who gives a, you know, a gosh damn about anybody who is a law-abiding, tax-paying citizen?
00:18:43.960 In a way, a guy like John Tory is the worst, because he doesn't have the grassroots connections
00:18:48.940 of a Ford.
00:18:50.320 He comes from the fancy end of things, so he's, like you say, he's always got this guilt,
00:18:53.540 he's always apologizing, and so he's so susceptible, because he doesn't have a strong
00:18:57.640 rudder himself.
00:18:58.780 Let me ask you, when's the next Toronto Civic election?
00:19:02.340 It's October 22nd of this year.
00:19:04.600 Are you serious?
00:19:05.460 It's coming up very quickly.
00:19:06.480 Yes, very quickly.
00:19:07.420 Actually, the nominations close at the end of July.
00:19:10.560 That is almost now.
00:19:12.620 I want to ask you, with Doug Ford in the provincial government, that says two things to me.
00:19:18.620 First of all, the big dog everyone was sort of counting on a run, well, he's got other
00:19:23.200 things to do.
00:19:24.180 But his success, including in the Toronto boundaries, suggests that there might be an appetite for
00:19:30.780 voters, for someone with some real oomph.
00:19:33.340 Cajones?
00:19:33.720 Yeah.
00:19:35.020 Are there any people on your radar screen who might fit the bill?
00:19:39.300 Well, you know, the unfortunate thing is that John Tory has shifted so far to the left that
00:19:43.320 nobody on the left wants to run, because he's given them everything they want and more.
00:19:47.060 So he's not a conservative anymore.
00:19:49.020 I don't know if he ever was.
00:19:50.260 You really need somebody with some common sense who, you know, is more akin to fiscal
00:19:55.980 conservatism and understands a law and order agenda.
00:20:00.220 Is there someone?
00:20:01.180 Give me some names.
00:20:01.960 I mean...
00:20:02.180 Oh, God.
00:20:02.800 You know, I wish we could just throw somebody in there to ask him hard questions.
00:20:06.800 Well, OK.
00:20:07.900 I got to ask you.
00:20:08.960 Because if you said ask him hard questions, well, you were the one who had to go out and
00:20:14.080 ask hard questions of Andrea Horvath.
00:20:15.900 You were the one who had to do the digging to vet candidates that the mighty Toronto Star
00:20:21.960 and the mighty CBC with their enormous budgets didn't.
00:20:24.480 I'm just going to take a lark here.
00:20:27.080 Sue Ann Levy, you got a big personality.
00:20:29.500 Jewish gay mayor.
00:20:31.860 Jewish gay mayor.
00:20:33.120 Well, you know, I have toyed with it, but it's a very expensive proposition to run.
00:20:37.020 So it would have to be a real grassroots campaign.
00:20:40.600 Have you let people know that you would be open to it?
00:20:45.900 I've just been thinking about it in the last little while.
00:20:49.740 You need money, but you need a team.
00:20:51.760 Yeah.
00:20:52.340 You need a platform.
00:20:53.160 I think you'd have the platform.
00:20:54.840 Well, the only thing with John Tory is that he has the big power players behind him.
00:20:59.700 Right.
00:21:00.140 But by platform, I mean like a list of top three ideas or something.
00:21:03.660 Like when I think Rob Ford, I think garbage strike and the gravy trains.
00:21:07.300 Yeah.
00:21:07.680 Taxes, cut the red tape.
00:21:08.600 I think law and order in this city is a mess.
00:21:10.860 I think there's a real problem with enabling drug dealers, drug addicted.
00:21:17.860 Injection sites.
00:21:18.500 Yeah.
00:21:19.000 Okay.
00:21:19.360 What about transit?
00:21:20.560 It's a complicated subject.
00:21:21.960 I don't even know if it's right wing or left wing.
00:21:23.520 Do you have any thoughts on that?
00:21:24.780 Well, transit, I think, you know, the problem is that there's just not enough money for transit
00:21:30.560 and you've got a council that's shifted every which way and, you know, backwards.
00:21:36.020 Some reason nothing is getting built is because they keep changing their mind.
00:21:40.500 I don't agree with John Tory's 3 billion to now one subway stop to Scarborough.
00:21:47.420 There's got to be another way to do it.
00:21:49.420 All right.
00:21:50.760 I like your style.
00:21:51.960 You've got a profile.
00:21:52.700 Anyone who writes for the newspaper, people know them.
00:21:55.640 They feel a familiarity.
00:21:56.940 So unlike some other candidates, you've already got name and face recognition.
00:22:01.640 I'm guessing.
00:22:02.820 Are you trying to prop?
00:22:04.180 Well, I want to ask you this.
00:22:06.020 You said you're sort of floating some trial balloons.
00:22:08.440 How can people feed back to you?
00:22:10.780 Yes or no.
00:22:11.500 Do you have a website?
00:22:12.320 Do you have an email address?
00:22:13.460 So let's say there's someone who's watching right now who says, well, I'd chip in some bucks.
00:22:17.100 I'd chip in some time and I got some friends and I'm ready to roll.
00:22:20.800 How do they say, hey, Savannah, jump in?
00:22:22.780 How do they do that?
00:22:23.740 Scooplevey at Rogers.com.
00:22:25.060 Scooplevey at Rogers.com.
00:22:27.820 Okay, we'll put that up on the screen.
00:22:29.620 I think you should get a website just to test the waters or maybe get a friend, like a draft.
00:22:33.620 I do actually have a website, suannlevey.ca.
00:22:37.100 suannlevey.ca.
00:22:37.820 Yes.
00:22:38.380 All right.
00:22:38.740 Well, I'm very interested.
00:22:40.040 I mean, I'm a fan of yours.
00:22:42.600 I'm a fan of yours.
00:22:43.420 Well, you see, I mean, here's what I know about you.
00:22:46.900 You fight.
00:22:47.840 You fight.
00:22:49.020 And you have that spirit and you don't bend the knee when the other side says, submit.
00:22:54.760 You don't.
00:22:55.800 And to me, that's the most important characteristic of a public leader is you're not going to be
00:23:00.620 intimidated or shouted down or, you know, that tusks by the media party.
00:23:06.100 Well, you know what?
00:23:07.000 Rob Ford, actually, for the first year and a half, unfortunately, he had his addictions.
00:23:11.840 We won't talk about them.
00:23:13.120 But he did some really good work and he had some really good people around him.
00:23:16.800 And he accomplished a lot.
00:23:17.900 That's never covered by the media party.
00:23:20.500 All right.
00:23:21.160 Well, we'll put up on the screen the contact information again if you want to give your feedback
00:23:26.120 to Sue Ann.
00:23:26.660 Do you think she should run?
00:23:27.860 Some might say you're having more influence where you are.
00:23:33.260 There's a difference between power and influence.
00:23:35.340 Yes.
00:23:36.000 You don't have any power as a calmness, but you have influence.
00:23:38.000 You have a lot of influence in the first election.
00:23:39.880 It'll be interesting.
00:23:40.480 And I know I drive John Tory crazy whenever I write about all this stuff.
00:23:43.480 Well, that's valuable in itself, too.
00:23:45.340 Well, it's great to see you again.
00:23:46.700 Thank you.
00:23:47.240 I was just so pleased with what I think that you and Joe, and I like you guys, I think
00:23:52.500 that you, more than any other two people, helped save this province from a near disaster.
00:23:59.760 And let me just say thanks as a new entrepreneur.
00:24:01.880 Well, you know, it's funny because the NDP just came out of nowhere, and it was...
00:24:06.800 Well, it could have gone that way.
00:24:07.940 It could have gone that way.
00:24:08.960 All right.
00:24:09.240 Well, let's put those contacts in, the email address and the website up on the screen.
00:24:14.260 And I'd invite you, my viewers, to let Sue Ann know, what do you think?
00:24:18.880 You think she should run? 0.69
00:24:20.360 Are you just saying that, or would you, you know, help out, whether it's a few bucks or
00:24:25.120 some hours?
00:24:25.660 But let us know.
00:24:27.980 All right, folks, stay with us.
00:24:29.140 More ahead.
00:24:29.500 Wonderful.
00:24:41.580 Welcome back.
00:24:42.580 Well, we spoke with him yesterday about a case involving freedom of speech at the Ottawa Public
00:24:47.320 Library.
00:24:47.860 While he's in town, John Carpe is here to talk to us about a disaster at the Supreme Court
00:24:53.940 of Canada, a disaster for religious liberty, for freedom of association, and for the idea
00:25:01.280 of precedent that law can be relied on and not just changed with every political fashion.
00:25:07.500 Joining me now is John Carpe.
00:25:08.920 John, nice to see you again.
00:25:10.000 And we're talking about the case of Trinity Western University, which is a small Christian 0.99
00:25:14.440 university in B.C. that wanted to have a law school.
00:25:18.060 And I'll just give our viewers a little bit of background, and then I'll throw to you for
00:25:21.080 the news today.
00:25:23.340 I've been to Trinity.
00:25:24.420 It's a small school.
00:25:25.540 Academically, it's successful.
00:25:26.780 No one, none of its critics said this law school would be deficient academically in
00:25:31.520 any sense.
00:25:32.500 But because it's a Christian school, they ask their students to sign a Christian code of
00:25:36.880 conduct, no drinking, no swearing, no gambling, no sex except for inside a Christian marriage, 0.91
00:25:43.700 a traditional marriage of a man and woman, so no premarital or extramarital sex.
00:25:48.220 Well, if you don't like that, don't go to that Christian school. 1.00
00:25:53.820 But law societies in three provinces said we are not going to even accept graduates from
00:26:02.700 this university because it's a bigoted place, and we simply will not, even if the students
00:26:09.720 are brilliant and excellent lawyers, we ban them.
00:26:13.080 They're blackballed. 0.66
00:26:14.360 And today, John, the Supreme Court of Canada, I've held that blackballing seven to two. 0.97
00:26:17.760 Seven to two.
00:26:18.820 Seven to two.
00:26:20.740 I thought that freedom of religion, freedom of association would allow a Christian school
00:26:27.360 to be Christian.
00:26:28.020 I thought that was actually in our constitution, Christian schooling.
00:26:32.120 Well, there's so many things appalling about this decision, and one of them is just the
00:26:36.240 utter, it's not even a lack of respect, it's almost a contempt for religious freedom, that
00:26:43.660 the majority says this is just trivial for Trinity Western University to repudiate its own code
00:26:51.060 of conduct, which, by the way, every university has a code of conduct, but just repudiate it.
00:26:58.520 Get over it already, and drop your opposition to sex outside of marriage, and you can still
00:27:06.420 have an authentic Christian law school.
00:27:08.640 I mean, that would be like telling an Orthodox Jewish school, you know, drop your prohibition
00:27:12.740 on pork, and allow non-Jewish kids to come to your school and bring their pork sandwich 0.74
00:27:17.640 for lunch, and just get over it, you can still be a good Jewish school and allow pork sandwiches 0.88
00:27:23.740 to be eaten there.
00:27:25.020 Just complete contempt for what is a pillar of human dignity.
00:27:31.300 It's your right, my right, to not just believe, but also live out and practice your faith.
00:27:37.420 Well, you know, what's so crazy about this is the school itself is not being forced to
00:27:45.100 do anything.
00:27:46.460 It's graduates from this school are being blackballed, am I right?
00:27:51.200 So this school can proceed, and it can graduate students.
00:27:55.020 Those students just will never be allowed to practice law in Canada, and that's what the
00:27:59.100 Supreme Court has actually upheld, am I right?
00:28:01.080 Yeah, if Trinity Western goes ahead with their law school, which I don't know if they will
00:28:05.500 or not, but if they do go ahead with it and spend the money and hire the law profs and
00:28:10.280 so on and so forth, then the graduates from that law school will not be eligible to practice
00:28:17.460 law.
00:28:17.900 Yeah, so that's the thing.
00:28:18.780 It's not even, the school itself is not touched by these law societies, in a way.
00:28:25.360 Understand what I'm getting at.
00:28:26.320 In a way, it's, you can have a gay student, you can have a liberal, conservative, you can
00:28:32.600 have, I mean, there are gay graduates of Trinity Western.
00:28:34.940 Of course.
00:28:36.980 Who, by the way, have filed affidavits in court stating that it's a warm and welcoming
00:28:41.360 and accepting environment where it was safe to come out.
00:28:44.160 So you can have an out-of-the-closet gay student at Trinity. 0.99
00:28:48.880 You can be a Christian gay student.
00:28:50.660 You don't even have to be Christian to go to Trinity Western.
00:28:53.960 You just have to look.
00:28:54.340 And there are Muslims there.
00:28:55.220 There are atheists there.
00:28:56.440 It's a university.
00:28:57.700 So you can get a great education.
00:28:59.700 You can be a warm, open-minded, you can be left-wing.
00:29:02.920 Not only a graduate, it's the graduate that is being prejudged as being not a legitimate lawyer.
00:29:12.740 To me, that's actually far worse, John, is that they're saying in advance, we haven't
00:29:17.000 met any of these lawyer graduates.
00:29:19.540 We haven't, they haven't done anything wrong.
00:29:21.340 They don't even exist yet.
00:29:22.460 But we know in advance that they must be blackballed from the profession. 0.74
00:29:28.480 It's actually not the law school itself that is the big loser.
00:29:32.100 It's any student that would dare say, I believe in that code of conduct.
00:29:37.800 Even the gay kids who went there and said, I believe in that code of conduct. 1.00
00:29:41.320 They are, it is a pure anti-Christian bigotry.
00:29:44.440 Unfortunately, it is bigotry.
00:29:47.160 I would love to disagree with you on this and say, you know, no, Ezra, you're wrong.
00:29:51.000 They're deciding on the finer points of law.
00:29:52.980 But this is basically an attack on a Christian institution.
00:29:59.620 And it's so cowardly and it's hypocritical.
00:30:02.420 They're not doing this to Brigham Young University, Mormon University, Latter-day Saints, similar
00:30:07.980 code of conduct.
00:30:08.720 All kinds of Christian universities, Catholic universities in the U.S. that have a code
00:30:13.680 of conduct that says, no sex outside of marriage.
00:30:16.740 There's Muslim universities around the world.
00:30:18.420 And there's Muslim universities around the world.
00:30:20.660 And their grads are allowed to practice in Canada.
00:30:22.620 Their grads can come into Canada and all they have to do is take, say, 12 months of equivalency
00:30:27.620 courses and presto, they're in.
00:30:30.240 Yeah.
00:30:30.440 And that equivalency has got nothing to do with the religious nature.
00:30:33.120 It's just, do you know your Canadian law?
00:30:34.760 Do you know your Canadian contract and constitutional criminal?
00:30:37.660 So you can go to Al-Azhar University in Cairo, which is-
00:30:44.820 Not familiar with it, but okay.
00:30:46.320 Or Karachi, University of Karachi, U of K.
00:30:48.560 U of K.
00:30:49.920 And as long as you prove you can understand Canadian contracts, you're good to go.
00:30:55.820 You can move to Canada and take 12 months or maybe in some cases a little bit more than
00:31:01.640 12 months, but you take your Canadian equivalency courses and away you go.
00:31:05.380 I got a question for you.
00:31:06.360 There was a case more than a dozen years ago in BC involving the BC Teachers College.
00:31:12.460 Precedent, you would think.
00:31:13.700 And see that-
00:31:14.740 It was identical.
00:31:15.740 Trinity Western University, same school.
00:31:17.820 Yeah.
00:31:18.060 Same code of conduct.
00:31:19.240 Same thing.
00:31:20.440 The Teachers College says, we don't like your Christian nature, so we're blackballing any
00:31:24.980 student teachers.
00:31:26.400 The Supreme Court ruled was-
00:31:28.520 Eight to one.
00:31:29.380 Eight to one.
00:31:30.000 Eight to one in favor of Trinity Western.
00:31:32.120 So what year was that case?
00:31:33.880 It was only 15 years ago.
00:31:35.260 So from 15 years, we went from same school, same code of conduct, BC Teachers College,
00:31:41.100 to same school, same code of conduct, law colleges.
00:31:45.420 And all of a sudden, that freedom of association, freedom of religion is gone.
00:31:49.400 Well, the law societies would say, oh, these cases are fundamentally different, but that's
00:31:54.400 hair splitting.
00:31:54.880 They couldn't be more identical.
00:31:56.120 They couldn't be more similar.
00:31:57.360 Yeah.
00:31:57.680 I'm furious, but who are the two judges who voted on the side of Trinity Western?
00:32:01.880 Russell Brown and Justice Cote.
00:32:03.580 You know, I ask that because you mentioned the Jewish thing.
00:32:08.440 I know there's two or three Jews on the Supreme Court.
00:32:11.260 Rosalia, Bella.
00:32:12.520 I've just forgotten the names of the other ones.
00:32:15.000 I don't know.
00:32:15.540 I'm sorry.
00:32:15.980 I don't want to guess.
00:32:19.220 You know, if this was a Jewish school, I wonder what they would have said.
00:32:22.940 Well, and I wonder what they would have said to a Muslim school.
00:32:25.680 Well, I know what they would have said.
00:32:26.560 Because some of the language in the decision, it is so political.
00:32:29.120 They talk about diversity and equality without defining equality.
00:32:33.580 You could be for or against equality, depending on what do you mean exactly by that.
00:32:39.120 Well, we know for a fact that dozens and dozens and dozens of Sharia-compliant Muslim 1.00
00:32:45.260 groups in Canada got their summer jobs grant from Justin Trudeau, when more than 1,500 Christian
00:32:52.160 groups didn't get their summer grant from Justin Trudeau.
00:32:56.280 I say that this is anti-Christian bigotry.
00:33:01.700 And what do you do when your Supreme Court of Canada, the last Court of Appeal, says,
00:33:07.320 yeah, Christians, get over it. 1.00
00:33:11.140 Yeah, get over it.
00:33:12.220 That's what it says.
00:33:13.040 Get over it.
00:33:13.660 You've got your community covenant.
00:33:15.120 But so what?
00:33:15.980 We're not going to respect that.
00:33:17.400 And you know what's sad is the whole model of the charter, the way it's supposed to be,
00:33:21.460 the concept is you've got these politicians which might pander to the mob and they might
00:33:27.660 be populist and they might trample on rights and freedoms.
00:33:30.420 And frankly, there are times, you can point to many examples in history, where crushing
00:33:34.840 rights and freedoms is wildly popular amongst the people.
00:33:38.300 So the idea is, oh, we've got this charter and we've got these judges to protect us from
00:33:42.980 these populists.
00:33:43.460 These judges are the mob.
00:33:45.280 These judges are the vanguard.
00:33:46.500 Now you've got the judges are cheering on the social justice warriors.
00:33:51.580 What this means is that people have to be more engaged in the democratic process to elect
00:33:57.900 pro-freedom people than ever before.
00:34:01.560 Because we can't count on the judges to defend our free society.
00:34:05.120 We have to elect pro-freedom people.
00:34:08.920 I think out of the nine judges, six are Harper appointees.
00:34:12.840 Something like that.
00:34:13.500 I think Trudeau just made an appointment, didn't he?
00:34:15.280 Yes, yes.
00:34:16.620 So he had six out of nine are Harper.
00:34:20.000 And he didn't move the needle one bit.
00:34:21.740 You know, Donald Trump, people say he's not a real conservative.
00:34:24.140 Really, he's made the most outstanding judicial appointments.
00:34:29.000 Stephen Harper dropped the ball on two things, in my view.
00:34:31.380 The CBC, he didn't privatize it.
00:34:33.560 And he abandoned the courts to the social justice activists.
00:34:37.780 I can name on one hand, he had nine years.
00:34:40.260 Just a few good judges.
00:34:41.340 Yeah, like I say, I can name on one hand.
00:34:42.680 Maybe you can name on one hand.
00:34:43.260 He could have transformed the judiciary.
00:34:45.780 And I'm not saying to be activist right wing.
00:34:48.220 Just interpret the law as it was written.
00:34:51.520 Stare decisis, let's stand the precedent.
00:34:53.760 I find this is deeply undemocratic.
00:34:56.820 And I despair.
00:34:58.580 Because if you can't get your justice formally, properly, through the courts, what is left?
00:35:04.520 It's, you know, it's scary for the future, because when the courts are not upholding the rule of law, and if the politicians don't get it, consequences can be scary.
00:35:15.140 When there's a backlash, it won't be pretty.
00:35:17.760 You know, it sounds crazy, but I wish this had been a Muslim school. 1.00
00:35:21.840 It might have had a different outcome.
00:35:23.080 Well, it might have.
00:35:23.720 It would have.
00:35:24.800 It would have.
00:35:25.660 Because this social justice activist court would have said, oh, well, in the name of diversity, we will allow a Muslim law school. 0.97
00:35:35.360 Because I'm so frustrated, John, but I know you fought the good fight with the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms.
00:35:41.340 We've had you on to talk about this a dozen times before.
00:35:44.060 You fought the good fight as an intervener at the first and second occasions here.
00:35:50.180 I know you're undaunted in your larger mission, and I wish you good luck.
00:35:54.160 And the website's jccf.ca, right?
00:35:57.560 jccf.ca.
00:35:58.360 And you know what?
00:35:59.760 It's a bad day for justice, but we're going to keep on fighting, because the worst thing you can do is to throw up your hands in despair and say, oh, we're going home.
00:36:07.720 We're not playing anymore.
00:36:08.560 No, we will just keep on fighting these fights, and you win some, you lose some.
00:36:14.820 What gets me is, this is so transparent, this is existing incumbent establishment lawyers keeping out Christian lawyers. 0.95
00:36:24.740 It's bad enough how clubby the law is, but they're saying, we don't want Christian lawyers.
00:36:30.600 I think Christians ought to deploy themselves into the legal sphere, because they're so clearly being blackballed. 1.00
00:36:38.900 And I'm Jewish myself, but if I were a Christian of any salt, if I had any saltiness to me, making a very poor allusion to the phrase, salt that is not lost, it's saltiness.
00:36:52.600 I would understand that the law and the courts is where this country is being ruled from, and I would try and get on the inside like you're doing, John.
00:37:00.740 I'm angry.
00:37:01.540 I'm angry, but I'm going to stop there, because I'll just rant.
00:37:04.660 Keep up the fight, my friend.
00:37:06.040 And you were a freedom fighter that all of us Jewish, Christian, Muslim, or atheists can get behind.
00:37:11.300 Thanks for having me on your show.
00:37:12.400 All right.
00:37:12.580 What's nice to see you.
00:37:13.880 Well, I'm frustrated by that.
00:37:15.620 I'm frustrated by that.
00:37:17.060 Let's take a break.
00:37:17.920 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:37:25.980 Hey, welcome back.
00:37:31.540 On my monologue yesterday about Chrystia Freeland winning an award for being the world's best diplomat, James writes, isn't that like winning used car salesman?
00:37:40.280 I mean, person of the year?
00:37:42.300 Well, no.
00:37:43.460 No, it's not.
00:37:44.140 I mean, you know, there's that old saying, a diplomat is someone who goes to lie abroad for their country, and that's actually a triple entendre.
00:37:52.720 Lie abroad is what they call the battleship, sort of facing all its guns in one direction.
00:37:58.080 So that's one meeting, lie abroad.
00:38:00.680 The other is to lie, as in to tell a lie, abroad.
00:38:04.860 And, of course, the third is that's not really, anyway, it's a hundred-year-old joke.
00:38:12.480 But it's not really always true.
00:38:13.920 Look at Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State.
00:38:16.280 Is he going to lie abroad for his country?
00:38:19.660 No.
00:38:20.320 He's going to do an important deal with North Korea.
00:38:22.940 May it work.
00:38:24.560 NAFTA, that's not about lying.
00:38:26.340 That's about getting a trade deal that works for both parties.
00:38:29.140 So, no, I think there is such a thing as a good diplomat.
00:38:31.940 But, I don't think Christy Freeland is it.
00:38:37.300 Ted writes, Christy Freeland thinks the threat to democracy comes from the right.
00:38:40.740 She isn't confused.
00:38:41.940 She's delusional.
00:38:43.540 Yeah, it was a really weird speech.
00:38:45.300 And it was so tone-deaf, given the recent fracas between Donald Trump and Justin Trudeau.
00:38:51.620 It's just so, maybe they're trying to wreck things on purpose.
00:38:55.320 Deborah writes, liberals love to hand out awards to themselves so they can keep pushing their agenda down our throats.
00:39:02.520 Christy doesn't hold a candle to a real Canadian diplomat, Ken Taylor.
00:39:07.460 I know you're referring to the great Canadian diplomat in Iran, if I recall,
00:39:13.720 who sort of smuggled the Canadian diplomat who smuggled American hostages out.
00:39:19.100 I'm sorry, I forget my history.
00:39:20.420 But, yeah, that wasn't just great democracy.
00:39:24.280 That was personal courage.
00:39:26.720 Sort of unrelated to the actual job he had, but it was amazing.
00:39:30.180 You're right.
00:39:31.120 On my interview with Howard Levitt, Temi writes, very interesting development concerning Lindsay Shepard.
00:39:37.460 I wish her every success with this lawsuit.
00:39:39.680 Yeah, you know, I've got to say, I mean, I enjoy all our guests we talk to.
00:39:42.420 I think that was my favorite interview this week.
00:39:46.260 First of all, he's a great talker, isn't he?
00:39:48.560 I think that's because he's a good lawyer.
00:39:50.140 So lawyers have a facility with words, I think.
00:39:53.120 But he's also a journalist, so he knows how to talk.
00:39:55.080 But he's also a bit of a believer.
00:39:57.840 But he's also a bit of an expert.
00:40:00.320 And also, he's got such a fascinating case.
00:40:04.560 And Lindsay's interesting.
00:40:05.860 And Laurier's interesting.
00:40:07.040 And suing professors is unusual.
00:40:10.060 It's just, I think that was my favorite interview of the week.
00:40:12.960 Maybe even in the month, come to think of it.
00:40:15.400 I'm excited, and I'm glad he agreed to keep us posted.
00:40:18.340 Lawsuits move very slowly.
00:40:19.960 As we said in our discussion yesterday, it could be a month or months before the next milestone comes.
00:40:26.480 But I promise you, we will keep in touch on that story.
00:40:30.220 And he said it.
00:40:31.020 He says, I hope we don't settle.
00:40:32.000 I mean, if the university, if Wilfrid Laurier University said to Lindsay Shepard, here's a million bucks, go away.
00:40:38.840 Don't lie.
00:40:39.520 It would be extremely difficult for even the most principled person in the world to say, million bucks, five years of costly fighting in court.
00:40:49.680 I mean, who wouldn't take a million bucks?
00:40:51.420 I hope they don't offer her that money.
00:40:53.760 I hope she goes the distance because we need the teachable moment.
00:40:56.960 I hope she wins at trial.
00:40:58.520 But I hope it doesn't settle.
00:41:01.440 I think she's a good fighter. 1.00
00:41:04.060 All right, that's the show for today.
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00:41:27.260 I don't know if you watched it.
00:41:28.620 All right, folks.
00:41:29.380 Until Monday, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night.
00:41:33.840 And keep fighting for freedom.
00:41:38.700 And keep fighting for freedom.
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00:41:58.020 Yeah.
00:41:58.640 Bye.
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