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LIVE with David Menzies & Sheila Gunn Reid! Trump vs. Trudeau on Trade!


Summary

Sheila Gunn-Reed from Alberta joins the show to talk about the ruling by the Court of Appeal to block the Kinder Morgan pipeline expansion project, the Northern Gateway Pipeline project, and the decision by the Supreme Court of Canada to reject the project.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Good afternoon. It's Friday, August 31st, 2018. I'm David Menzies, and this is Ezra Levent's Battleground.
00:00:15.180 Hey folks, great to have you with us. I'm David Menzies filling in for Ezra Levent, and because Ezra does the work of so many others here, I can't do this show alone.
00:00:25.580 That's why there's another special co-host filling in with me today, and that would be the one and only Sheila Gunn-Reed from Alberta.
00:00:34.560 How you doing there, Sheila?
00:00:36.400 Hey David, this is going to be fun. It's going to be like the Donnie and Marie show, but for conservatives.
00:00:43.080 You know, that brings up really bad memories of the two years I spent in Newfoundland in the mid-70s.
00:00:49.160 All I had, it was two TV channels. It was CBC and CTV, and because I was a mainlander, which meant I was a complete loser and had no friends,
00:00:59.960 on Friday night at 10 o'clock, my choice was on CTV, The Donnie and Marie Show, and on CBC, Tommy Hunter Country.
00:01:09.020 Wow, was I ever waiting for the internet to be invented? I almost bought a CB radio, actually, to break the Donnie.
00:01:18.040 So, but Sheila, great to see you again.
00:01:21.600 And now, so much in the news to talk about, I think first and foremost, is this disgraceful court of appeal decision to, I think,
00:01:35.840 not just put the kibosh on the Trans Mountain Kinder Morgan project, but maybe putting the kibosh on billions and billions of dollars
00:01:46.500 of future investment, especially in the mining and oil and gas sector in Canada.
00:01:53.720 Sheila, you're much closer to this story than I am, of course, being in Alberta.
00:01:58.880 Are people going crazy in the Wild Rose province right now?
00:02:03.120 Short answer, yes.
00:02:05.660 You know, you and I were talking about this earlier.
00:02:07.700 If this were the Quebec hydro industry that wasn't allowed to sell their hydro, or if this were the Ontario auto sector,
00:02:17.560 or Saskatchewan agriculture, there would be rumblings about separation.
00:02:25.240 And that's what we're hearing here.
00:02:27.160 We're seeing more and more people, reasonable people, who are looking at all of this and saying,
00:02:31.540 what exactly is the point of confederation when we're being treated like the country's changed purse?
00:02:37.720 They've, you know, the equalization payments never change, no matter how many pipelines don't get built.
00:02:43.980 Alberta still pays a lot into equalization and doesn't get a lot back.
00:02:48.620 And we don't have any help from the federal government to help us get our resources to Tidewater.
00:02:55.560 David, it is crazy.
00:02:56.960 It is absolutely crazy that, you know, we're the world's third largest oil resource.
00:03:03.260 The third largest.
00:03:04.880 We can't get our oil to Tidewater.
00:03:07.600 This would absolutely never happen anywhere else in the world, except in Canada,
00:03:12.180 when we're letting these foreign-funded radicals set the agenda and make these appeals to the appeal court
00:03:19.020 that ultimately end up blocking our pipeline projects.
00:03:22.400 But Sheila, foreign-funded radicals, that's one thing.
00:03:25.340 That's one kettle of fish.
00:03:26.320 But the Court of Appeal decision here, I think this is judicial activism at its very worst.
00:03:32.920 First of all, I absolutely don't buy their rationale for killing this project.
00:03:38.700 First and foremost, not enough consultation with Aboriginal groups.
00:03:44.460 The facts of the matter show that there were nine months of discussions with Aboriginal groups.
00:03:50.960 And by the way, some Aboriginal groups, as you well know, are pro-pipeline.
00:03:54.460 I guess their opinion doesn't count.
00:03:56.840 So is this what we're seeing here?
00:03:58.420 Are these, I guess, social justice warrior judges on the Court of Appeal?
00:04:04.780 Because I'll tell you, I think when you sit down with groups for nine months and listen to them,
00:04:12.900 how is that not consultation?
00:04:15.360 Well, and David, there were four rounds of consultation.
00:04:19.960 Two initial rounds before the Liberals took over and another two after the fact.
00:04:24.700 And the word is consultation.
00:04:26.940 The word is not permission.
00:04:28.980 We have a duty to consult.
00:04:30.780 We don't have a duty to seek permission from everybody who wants to weigh in on this pipeline project.
00:04:35.740 Because that's what confederation is about.
00:04:38.280 We're seeing Canada balkanize, and the Feds aren't really doing anything about it.
00:04:44.140 You know, I think you're onto something here, Sheila.
00:04:46.700 It's almost as though the definition of consultation has been changed,
00:04:51.940 which is to say that if a native group says,
00:04:54.660 here is our problem and this is why we want it stopped,
00:04:57.220 and you say, I beg to differ,
00:05:00.020 having a difference of opinion,
00:05:02.400 at least as far as I can interpret the judge's ruling,
00:05:05.000 means that you didn't consult.
00:05:07.180 In other words, because you didn't echo their opinion,
00:05:12.760 their point of view,
00:05:13.920 therefore there was no consultation.
00:05:16.120 And that's perverse.
00:05:18.140 Well, and let's go back a little bit.
00:05:20.080 The Northern Gateway Pipeline project was squashed by the court.
00:05:24.860 That approval was squashed by the court in 2016.
00:05:29.060 The Trudeau Liberals never decided to appeal that decision.
00:05:32.480 They basically let the pipeline die.
00:05:35.440 Rachel Notley in Alberta here was happy also to let the pipeline die
00:05:39.800 because she said there was not adequate consultation with First Nations groups.
00:05:44.520 That's what the court said at the time.
00:05:45.840 So, in two years, the Liberals had to do something
00:05:50.280 to make that consultation process adequate.
00:05:54.360 They didn't really.
00:05:55.160 And, you know, Rachel Notley and Justin Trudeau,
00:05:59.780 well, I don't know about Justin Trudeau,
00:06:00.920 but Rachel Notley has come out and said that the Court of Appeals decision was wrong.
00:06:05.380 So, if it's wrong now,
00:06:07.720 why was it right when it happened to Northern Gateway?
00:06:11.820 It just seems like, you know,
00:06:13.480 they're offloading this political hot potato onto the court
00:06:17.260 when neither one of them, Justin Trudeau nor Rachel Notley,
00:06:19.920 none of them really want to see this pipeline get built,
00:06:22.300 but at least they can say that they weren't responsible for the voice of no.
00:06:25.580 Yeah, they're now finding convenient boogeymen to point the finger to.
00:06:32.040 And, you know, the numbers are staggering.
00:06:33.580 I mean, Sheila, in the last five quarters, I understand,
00:06:36.920 foreign companies have withdrawn a net $8.2 billion
00:06:40.900 from Canada's energy and mining sector,
00:06:43.700 and that compares with the previous decade to those five quarters,
00:06:48.240 an investment of some $130 billion.
00:06:52.560 But I think all this decision does, Sheila,
00:06:55.780 is reinforce to the rest of the world
00:06:58.040 that this is a lousy place to make an investment in
00:07:02.440 when it comes to energy development.
00:07:04.660 Yeah, we're seeing companies pull out of Alberta,
00:07:07.080 and they're going to far more safe places for investment,
00:07:11.400 like Iraq and Egypt.
00:07:13.220 You know, that's pretty telling.
00:07:16.580 And let's not forget we have a pretty business-friendly administration
00:07:21.660 right to the south of us.
00:07:23.940 You know, let's take a look at the Dakota Access Pipeline project.
00:07:27.340 Donald Trump literally signed a piece of paper
00:07:31.460 and breathed life into that pipeline
00:07:33.960 after ongoing protests that actually left environmental disasters behind them.
00:07:43.740 And it was just so easy because there was political will to get that done.
00:07:48.600 And companies, international companies, when they're looking at that,
00:07:51.980 when you're looking at Canada and saying,
00:07:53.940 you know what, the Dakotas have the exact same oil formation
00:07:58.660 as southern Saskatchewan,
00:08:00.320 but why would we invest in Saskatchewan
00:08:02.400 when we can actually get something done in the United States?
00:08:06.140 Oh, I wouldn't put a dime into this country
00:08:08.160 given the judicial environment right now based on this.
00:08:12.740 But I guess the big question is,
00:08:14.500 where does it go from here, Sheila?
00:08:18.400 It doesn't go anywhere.
00:08:19.780 I mean, it's up to Justin Trudeau
00:08:21.760 to appeal this decision to the Supreme Court.
00:08:24.520 I haven't heard whether or not he's going to do that.
00:08:26.340 That should have been the first thing out of his mouth yesterday.
00:08:29.580 It wasn't.
00:08:31.500 And Rachel Notley is talking tough,
00:08:34.680 but she's actually doing absolutely nothing.
00:08:37.820 And I think we have a clip that Mr. Producer put together for us.
00:08:44.660 You know what, I just wanted to say Mr. Producer
00:08:46.860 because I'm a huge Mark Levin fan
00:08:48.800 and he always says Mr. Producer.
00:08:51.160 And I've been waiting my whole life to say that.
00:08:53.500 But I think Mr. Producer has a series of clips
00:08:55.980 put together from Rachel Notley's press conference yesterday.
00:08:59.900 And one intrepid reporter actually did an accidental piece of journalism
00:09:07.880 and asked her a really good question.
00:09:09.900 And I think you're going to be amazed with the response.
00:09:13.880 Here.
00:09:14.620 The current state of affairs in Canada right now
00:09:17.280 is such that building a pipeline to tidewater
00:09:20.520 is practically impossible.
00:09:23.560 As a result,
00:09:24.820 our ability to transport our most profitable commodity
00:09:28.800 is subject to the whims of the White House
00:09:31.940 and the U.S. government.
00:09:33.780 Yet as important as climate action is
00:09:36.260 to our province's future,
00:09:38.220 I've also always said
00:09:39.520 that taking the next step
00:09:41.500 and signing on to the federal climate plan
00:09:43.940 can't happen
00:09:44.840 without the Trans Mountain pipeline.
00:09:46.840 And so,
00:09:49.980 today,
00:09:50.560 I'm announcing that
00:09:52.160 with the Trans Mountain halted
00:09:54.360 and the work on it halted,
00:09:56.240 until the federal government gets its act together,
00:09:58.760 Alberta is pulling out
00:09:59.960 of the federal climate plan.
00:10:02.300 Mr. Secretary,
00:10:02.740 it's a fault you said
00:10:03.480 to be withdrawing from the national climate plan.
00:10:05.580 What does that look like?
00:10:06.560 What would you actually be doing differently now
00:10:08.340 than you were doing yesterday?
00:10:09.780 Well,
00:10:10.420 you're quite right
00:10:11.520 that the impact of our participation
00:10:13.180 in the national plan
00:10:14.380 comes into effect
00:10:15.320 when the price goes up to $40.
00:10:17.320 So,
00:10:17.680 right now,
00:10:18.580 there wouldn't be an immediate impact,
00:10:21.040 but it comes down to
00:10:22.320 our government's role
00:10:24.540 in terms of promoting the plan overall
00:10:26.280 and their ability to count on us
00:10:28.380 to be part of it.
00:10:29.440 What does this mean,
00:10:30.100 Premier,
00:10:30.560 to Alberta's carbon tax?
00:10:32.900 Our carbon tax,
00:10:34.140 as it sits right now,
00:10:35.160 the Alberta Climate Leadership Plan
00:10:36.460 stays in place.
00:10:37.400 That was a,
00:10:38.040 the Climate Leadership Plan
00:10:39.220 was something we put in place
00:10:40.420 before the federal government was elected,
00:10:42.780 before we got into the conversation
00:10:44.120 about Kinder Morgan.
00:10:45.320 or the Trans Mountain.
00:10:47.660 But,
00:10:48.200 we've always been very clear
00:10:49.740 that signing on
00:10:50.620 to the Pan-Canadian Framework
00:10:51.940 or the federal government's plan
00:10:53.160 was conditional
00:10:54.460 on the pipeline.
00:10:57.660 Well,
00:10:58.160 you know,
00:10:58.700 it sounds to me,
00:11:00.600 what's that saying again,
00:11:01.820 Sheila?
00:11:02.200 A day late
00:11:02.840 and a pound short
00:11:03.740 in terms of this issue.
00:11:05.760 You know,
00:11:05.920 it's funny,
00:11:06.480 as we were running that clip,
00:11:08.560 I got a response here
00:11:11.180 from one of our viewers,
00:11:12.760 Leonard Roth.
00:11:14.160 And this is what he says,
00:11:15.300 as the Republic of Western Canada,
00:11:17.720 we would be one of the richest countries
00:11:20.020 on the planet.
00:11:21.520 Time for the rebel
00:11:22.220 to get behind
00:11:22.940 the separation movement.
00:11:24.720 You know,
00:11:25.020 it raises the point,
00:11:26.180 Sheila,
00:11:26.740 if you were to,
00:11:28.360 I mean,
00:11:28.580 this is a completely hypothetical situation,
00:11:31.580 but again,
00:11:32.860 in the early 90s,
00:11:34.480 who could have foreseen
00:11:35.380 that there was going to be
00:11:36.080 a referendum in Quebec again
00:11:37.640 for separation in 1995.
00:11:40.660 But if you were to put it
00:11:41.860 to Western Canadians,
00:11:43.340 how would you vote
00:11:45.500 if it meant
00:11:47.060 leaving Confederation
00:11:48.400 that the handcuffs
00:11:50.560 of all this
00:11:51.920 judicial
00:11:53.040 and environmental
00:11:53.900 and Aboriginal
00:11:55.080 activism
00:11:56.060 is off of us
00:11:57.540 and we can develop
00:11:58.920 our oil sands
00:12:00.060 and get our product
00:12:00.860 to market,
00:12:01.700 do you think
00:12:02.240 that would be
00:12:02.780 enough of a carrot
00:12:03.620 to actually make
00:12:05.380 the vote 50% plus one?
00:12:08.300 Do you know what?
00:12:08.840 I am,
00:12:09.560 I'd like to think
00:12:10.600 that I'm not a separatist.
00:12:11.900 I'd like to think
00:12:13.440 that I am,
00:12:14.440 you know,
00:12:15.060 pro-Canadian
00:12:15.740 and I think that I am,
00:12:17.200 but there comes a time
00:12:19.700 and I think it's coming
00:12:20.780 pretty soon
00:12:22.040 if it's not here yet
00:12:23.200 where normal people
00:12:24.320 like me
00:12:24.740 who are very pro-Canadian
00:12:25.900 are looking around
00:12:26.480 and saying,
00:12:26.980 what in the heck
00:12:28.120 am I doing here?
00:12:29.260 If we became
00:12:30.660 the 51st state,
00:12:33.480 we could get pipelines built.
00:12:34.720 There's no issue
00:12:35.460 of any sort of
00:12:36.240 cross-border nonsense.
00:12:38.180 It can happen
00:12:39.260 with a stroke of a pen
00:12:40.640 from the president's office.
00:12:42.520 There's none of this
00:12:43.380 finagling
00:12:45.940 and for,
00:12:47.600 there's no patience
00:12:49.340 for foreign-funded radicals
00:12:51.140 and activist courts
00:12:52.840 to put the kibosh
00:12:54.320 on these nation-building projects.
00:12:57.120 And, you know,
00:12:57.780 they truly are nation-building,
00:12:59.260 but if they're not getting done,
00:13:00.460 then what's the point
00:13:01.240 of staying within a nation?
00:13:02.700 Now, you rushed me
00:13:04.340 past that clip
00:13:05.160 from Notley
00:13:06.800 because she says
00:13:07.500 a heck of a lot
00:13:08.460 of nothing in there.
00:13:09.620 The first part,
00:13:11.120 she takes a sideways swipe
00:13:12.700 at Donald Trump.
00:13:13.960 And that's stupid
00:13:16.140 because I think
00:13:18.140 Krista Freeland
00:13:18.720 can attest to what happens
00:13:20.180 when you take
00:13:20.620 a sideways swipe
00:13:21.720 at Donald Trump.
00:13:23.960 The Keystone XL pipeline
00:13:25.680 right now
00:13:26.160 is probably the only pipeline
00:13:27.280 that's ever going
00:13:28.120 to get built
00:13:28.860 under both current governments
00:13:30.860 here in Alberta
00:13:31.580 and federally.
00:13:32.720 And it doesn't do anybody
00:13:33.680 any favours to say
00:13:34.640 the White House
00:13:35.740 is the problem.
00:13:36.780 The White House
00:13:37.340 is not the problem.
00:13:38.560 The White House
00:13:39.320 are our friends.
00:13:40.680 The problem is,
00:13:41.540 you know,
00:13:41.760 these American activist groups
00:13:43.420 that are sort of interloping
00:13:45.000 and funding Canadian activism
00:13:46.700 on the ground.
00:13:48.000 And then,
00:13:48.660 when Rachel Notley
00:13:49.380 says that she's going
00:13:50.140 to pull out
00:13:51.500 of the federal government's
00:13:53.580 climate plan,
00:13:55.100 a reporter then asks her,
00:13:56.420 well,
00:13:56.580 what does that mean?
00:13:57.520 And it literally means
00:13:58.340 absolutely nothing
00:13:59.480 because Alberta
00:14:01.100 still has their carbon tax.
00:14:03.220 It's going to go up
00:14:04.040 when Rachel Notley
00:14:04.760 says it's going to go up.
00:14:06.020 And I really don't care
00:14:07.200 whose face is on
00:14:08.280 my carbon tax bill,
00:14:09.460 whether it's Rachel Notley
00:14:10.860 or Catherine McKenna's,
00:14:12.340 I'm still paying
00:14:13.080 a carbon tax.
00:14:14.160 So all of this
00:14:15.080 means nothing to me.
00:14:16.120 I still have a carbon tax,
00:14:17.860 but I have no pipeline.
00:14:19.160 So what's the difference?
00:14:21.120 Well,
00:14:21.360 all we can hope for,
00:14:22.600 Sheila,
00:14:22.780 I think,
00:14:23.300 is that for this
00:14:24.100 to go to the Supreme Court,
00:14:25.800 again,
00:14:27.640 you know,
00:14:28.060 talk about time is money.
00:14:29.380 We're talking months,
00:14:30.380 if not years,
00:14:31.060 to get some kind of,
00:14:32.500 you know,
00:14:32.800 final resolution on this.
00:14:34.520 And by the way,
00:14:35.220 since you mentioned
00:14:35.960 the United States
00:14:36.860 and Donald Trump,
00:14:38.280 great segue into our
00:14:40.100 second pressing topic
00:14:41.400 of the day,
00:14:42.360 especially with this
00:14:43.400 being deadline Friday
00:14:44.960 and the U.S. and Canada
00:14:47.180 coming to a deal,
00:14:49.580 maybe,
00:14:50.100 hopefully,
00:14:50.600 who knows.
00:14:51.620 Now,
00:14:52.220 let's be honest,
00:14:53.160 this is a,
00:14:53.760 you know,
00:14:54.360 this is a phony deadline.
00:14:55.500 This is a deadline
00:14:56.440 imposed by Donald Trump.
00:14:59.300 And it's not as though
00:15:00.420 it can be extended or not.
00:15:02.420 But I have to say,
00:15:03.920 from what I'm reading
00:15:04.700 and what I'm hearing,
00:15:05.800 Sheila,
00:15:06.340 I'm not optimistic
00:15:07.660 that a deal is going to be done
00:15:09.320 either today
00:15:09.980 or in the weeks ahead.
00:15:12.420 David,
00:15:12.960 can I tell you
00:15:13.440 why I'm not optimistic
00:15:14.760 is because it's the Friday
00:15:16.100 before a long weekend.
00:15:17.500 So there's literally
00:15:18.720 nobody in government working.
00:15:20.340 Like,
00:15:20.500 we're the only people working,
00:15:21.660 David.
00:15:22.220 Nobody in government works
00:15:23.480 Friday before a long weekend.
00:15:24.980 There's nobody there.
00:15:26.440 So they're not,
00:15:27.200 you know,
00:15:27.960 I think the writing
00:15:29.840 is on the wall
00:15:30.700 for the Canadians.
00:15:31.500 We're playing catch up
00:15:32.420 with the Mexicans.
00:15:34.320 The Mexicans
00:15:34.980 who were like
00:15:35.760 the target
00:15:36.620 of Donald Trump's ire
00:15:38.320 since he was campaigning.
00:15:40.960 So for two years,
00:15:41.720 even before he became
00:15:42.800 the president,
00:15:43.820 his target
00:15:44.700 was the Mexicans.
00:15:46.440 And somehow,
00:15:47.360 the Canadian administration
00:15:48.420 is so stupid,
00:15:50.860 stupid,
00:15:51.360 that they turned
00:15:53.400 his focus
00:15:54.200 like a laser beam
00:15:55.200 on to us.
00:15:56.000 And I'm not hopeful.
00:15:58.780 I wish
00:15:59.780 things were more optimistic,
00:16:02.420 especially for
00:16:03.760 Canada's auto sector.
00:16:07.640 But I'm not sure
00:16:09.740 that a deal
00:16:10.340 that Canadians want
00:16:11.580 is going to get done
00:16:12.300 anytime soon.
00:16:13.380 And, you know,
00:16:13.920 Sheila,
00:16:14.220 what was the deal
00:16:15.200 a couple of days ago?
00:16:16.360 I mean,
00:16:17.660 what came to mind
00:16:19.020 was that Blondie hit
00:16:20.080 from the early 80s
00:16:20.980 hanging on the telephone
00:16:22.100 when Donald Trump
00:16:23.620 tried to phone
00:16:24.500 Justin Trudeau
00:16:25.700 and Trudeau
00:16:26.640 wouldn't take
00:16:27.340 Trump's call.
00:16:29.060 I mean,
00:16:29.860 does our prime minister
00:16:32.920 have a little
00:16:33.620 delusion
00:16:34.940 in terms of
00:16:35.840 who's the dog
00:16:36.860 and who's the tail here?
00:16:39.300 First of all,
00:16:40.160 I don't know that song
00:16:41.100 because I'm not 75.
00:16:43.080 It's a great song.
00:16:44.900 I'm sure it is, David.
00:16:45.880 I'm sure it is.
00:16:48.920 But, you know,
00:16:51.020 it's Justin Trudeau.
00:16:52.080 He's the king
00:16:52.540 of the personal day.
00:16:53.920 What is he doing?
00:16:54.520 What is he too busy doing?
00:16:56.340 Was there like
00:16:56.840 a mean hacky sack
00:16:58.140 tournament
00:16:58.600 out front
00:16:59.640 that he was missing out on?
00:17:00.940 Like, what is he doing
00:17:01.840 that is more important
00:17:03.100 than plucking
00:17:04.280 the Canadian economy
00:17:05.400 out of the fire?
00:17:06.440 I mean,
00:17:07.100 when you don't take
00:17:08.520 calls from someone,
00:17:09.520 it's either because
00:17:10.180 you're scared,
00:17:11.380 which, you know,
00:17:12.380 that's why I avoid
00:17:13.180 phone calls from Ezra.
00:17:14.240 And secondly,
00:17:16.160 I'm kidding.
00:17:17.040 He's the best boss
00:17:17.780 in the world.
00:17:18.880 Or that you,
00:17:20.280 that you're,
00:17:21.680 you don't have anything
00:17:22.460 to say.
00:17:23.140 Like, what could Trudeau
00:17:24.960 say to Donald Trump
00:17:26.800 that could fix this mess?
00:17:28.580 I don't know.
00:17:29.500 And I'm kind of one,
00:17:31.040 you know,
00:17:31.300 and I think the prickly
00:17:32.800 thing too,
00:17:33.880 you know,
00:17:34.660 the Americans
00:17:35.240 are coming after
00:17:36.360 supply management.
00:17:38.600 Andrew Scheer's
00:17:40.800 favourite little
00:17:41.760 hobby horse,
00:17:42.600 evidently.
00:17:43.580 And I'm wondering
00:17:44.960 if, you know,
00:17:45.960 in closed door
00:17:46.780 negotiations,
00:17:48.060 this is the big
00:17:49.040 sticking point
00:17:49.860 and this is what
00:17:50.800 we're going to,
00:17:51.740 I don't know,
00:17:52.240 potentially sacrifice
00:17:53.560 the Canadian economy
00:17:55.300 by way of,
00:17:56.540 for example,
00:17:56.980 the Ontario auto industry,
00:17:58.320 which, by the way,
00:17:59.040 Sheila,
00:17:59.580 if you were just
00:18:00.220 to shut that down
00:18:01.180 for a few days,
00:18:02.340 would mean monumental
00:18:03.560 damage to the economy.
00:18:05.020 What's your take
00:18:06.640 on this lack
00:18:08.280 of a deal
00:18:08.700 getting done?
00:18:10.500 Well, I think
00:18:11.600 that it's probably
00:18:12.600 contingent on
00:18:14.160 all those SJW
00:18:16.000 nonsense things
00:18:16.980 that they put
00:18:17.560 into the negotiations
00:18:18.680 like,
00:18:20.100 like,
00:18:21.540 women's issues,
00:18:24.120 like,
00:18:25.280 what gender
00:18:26.220 is the car
00:18:27.060 coming off
00:18:28.020 the manufacturing
00:18:28.960 line in Oshawa?
00:18:31.020 Like, it's so stupid.
00:18:32.780 But,
00:18:33.260 you know,
00:18:34.440 a lot of this,
00:18:35.600 I'm sure,
00:18:36.080 hangs on supply
00:18:36.980 management.
00:18:38.340 And it's,
00:18:40.200 Donald Trump
00:18:40.940 will ultimately
00:18:41.880 be the one
00:18:42.500 who kills
00:18:43.020 supply management
00:18:43.820 in Canada,
00:18:44.500 whether Trudeau
00:18:45.300 or Andrew Scheer
00:18:46.100 liked it or not.
00:18:47.280 And Andrew Scheer
00:18:48.320 burned up
00:18:49.340 a heck of a lot
00:18:50.700 of political capital
00:18:51.820 by supporting
00:18:53.300 supply management.
00:18:54.500 He alienated
00:18:55.380 half the party.
00:18:56.640 And even people
00:18:58.140 who support
00:18:58.740 supply management
00:18:59.460 were thoroughly
00:19:00.300 annoyed with Andrew Scheer
00:19:01.600 that the discussion
00:19:02.420 wasn't even allowed
00:19:03.200 to take place.
00:19:03.920 I mean,
00:19:04.700 and for less
00:19:05.640 than 1%
00:19:06.340 of the economy,
00:19:07.040 we're putting
00:19:07.600 about 20%
00:19:08.500 of it in jeopardy.
00:19:09.460 And that's just
00:19:10.080 the auto sector.
00:19:11.060 That's not,
00:19:11.760 you know,
00:19:12.000 any potential pipeline
00:19:13.240 from Alberta
00:19:14.260 that could be
00:19:15.080 put on the shelf
00:19:16.200 because we've
00:19:16.880 annoyed the Americans.
00:19:18.540 Well,
00:19:19.140 you know,
00:19:19.400 I'm just trying
00:19:19.900 to think.
00:19:20.600 There are indeed
00:19:21.660 some chick cars
00:19:22.700 out there,
00:19:23.560 the Mazda Miata,
00:19:24.860 the Volkswagen
00:19:25.520 new Beetle,
00:19:26.380 but I don't think
00:19:27.260 they're made
00:19:27.640 in Canada.
00:19:28.480 So,
00:19:29.060 maybe that's
00:19:30.660 part of the issue.
00:19:31.620 We have to get
00:19:32.360 more feminine
00:19:33.800 automobiles
00:19:35.200 into the
00:19:35.640 interior auto sector.
00:19:37.720 David,
00:19:37.980 you drive
00:19:38.500 a feminine automobile.
00:19:39.820 Oh,
00:19:39.940 how dare you?
00:19:41.460 No,
00:19:42.240 you do.
00:19:43.260 You drive
00:19:44.200 one of those
00:19:45.180 electronic
00:19:46.420 emasculations
00:19:47.460 of a car
00:19:48.100 that you plug
00:19:49.220 into a wall
00:19:49.960 like a blow dryer.
00:19:51.200 You drive
00:19:51.840 one of those.
00:19:52.720 You're part
00:19:53.300 of the problem,
00:19:54.180 David.
00:19:54.620 No,
00:19:55.000 but my other
00:19:55.620 car is a
00:19:56.420 pickup truck
00:19:56.980 and I think
00:19:57.400 I'm going to
00:19:57.740 look for a
00:19:58.500 bumper sticker
00:19:59.080 that says that
00:19:59.840 and I'll put it
00:20:00.360 on my Ford
00:20:01.460 Fusion plug-in
00:20:02.380 hybrid that you
00:20:03.460 so detest.
00:20:05.120 But didn't detest
00:20:06.060 it that much
00:20:06.740 that you didn't
00:20:07.460 want to take a
00:20:08.040 ride back to
00:20:08.640 your hotel
00:20:09.280 in Toronto
00:20:10.280 when you were
00:20:10.760 by for Rebel
00:20:11.480 Live,
00:20:11.960 you know,
00:20:12.680 back in June.
00:20:13.780 But anyways,
00:20:14.640 we digress.
00:20:15.540 I was drunk,
00:20:16.300 David.
00:20:16.700 I was drunk.
00:20:20.740 Oh,
00:20:21.220 boy.
00:20:21.820 So,
00:20:22.180 you know,
00:20:22.640 and by the way,
00:20:23.600 Sheila,
00:20:23.900 again,
00:20:24.940 since I
00:20:25.620 mentioned Scheer,
00:20:27.280 where do you
00:20:28.480 think Scheer
00:20:29.800 is going to
00:20:30.400 stand on
00:20:31.300 all this
00:20:31.820 nonsense
00:20:32.560 going on,
00:20:33.780 especially
00:20:34.980 with the
00:20:35.540 pipeline issue
00:20:36.460 and of course
00:20:37.100 this trade
00:20:37.960 agreement that
00:20:38.640 might not
00:20:39.180 come to
00:20:39.760 fruition,
00:20:40.760 especially
00:20:42.060 since he
00:20:43.560 in a way
00:20:44.440 has painted
00:20:44.980 himself into
00:20:45.660 a corner
00:20:46.120 because the
00:20:47.120 only reason
00:20:47.600 he is the
00:20:48.840 Conservative Party
00:20:49.740 leader,
00:20:50.320 let's face it,
00:20:51.560 and I mean,
00:20:52.180 he wouldn't
00:20:52.820 deny this,
00:20:53.400 I don't think,
00:20:54.120 given that he
00:20:54.600 was drinking
00:20:55.080 a carton
00:20:55.740 of milk
00:20:56.120 at his
00:20:56.540 acceptance
00:20:56.960 speech,
00:20:57.360 is because of
00:20:58.460 the dairy
00:20:58.880 farmers lobby
00:20:59.840 putting him
00:21:01.000 there because
00:21:01.520 of his
00:21:02.060 commitment
00:21:02.580 to supply
00:21:03.520 management.
00:21:04.440 Do you think
00:21:04.760 this was a
00:21:05.400 big misstep
00:21:06.180 for him?
00:21:06.620 I absolutely
00:21:08.640 think it was a
00:21:09.240 big misstep.
00:21:10.220 Now, Andrew
00:21:11.280 Scheer's only
00:21:11.800 options are
00:21:12.840 this misplaced
00:21:14.220 Trudeau support
00:21:15.220 masquerading as
00:21:16.820 patriotism and
00:21:19.360 support for the
00:21:20.300 Canadian economy
00:21:21.120 when really the
00:21:22.220 focus should be
00:21:22.860 on how badly
00:21:23.980 Trudeau has
00:21:24.640 bungled this
00:21:25.520 from the very
00:21:26.620 beginning.
00:21:27.460 When Donald
00:21:28.320 Trump took
00:21:28.960 office, he
00:21:29.820 said he would
00:21:30.440 absolutely be
00:21:31.400 renegotiating
00:21:32.200 NAFTA.
00:21:32.580 The federal
00:21:35.340 conservatives
00:21:35.900 should have
00:21:37.040 been preparing
00:21:39.040 for what that
00:21:40.860 meant for them
00:21:41.540 as far as
00:21:41.920 their positions
00:21:42.520 and they've
00:21:44.520 bungled this
00:21:45.140 really, quite
00:21:45.960 frankly, as
00:21:46.520 badly as the
00:21:47.520 Liberals have
00:21:48.140 because really
00:21:49.000 right now
00:21:49.620 there's no
00:21:49.920 difference between
00:21:50.480 the two parties.
00:21:51.700 I think you
00:21:52.840 raise a good
00:21:53.180 point here,
00:21:53.620 Sheila, in
00:21:54.120 terms of the
00:21:54.720 bungling.
00:21:55.800 Even before
00:21:56.700 the Bernier
00:21:57.440 mess of last
00:21:58.660 week, I would
00:22:00.020 put to you
00:22:00.820 that with
00:22:01.820 Justin Trudeau's
00:22:03.360 almost three
00:22:04.540 years of
00:22:05.340 embarrassments
00:22:06.340 and bungling
00:22:07.240 and diplomatic
00:22:08.260 faux pas
00:22:09.540 that Andrew
00:22:11.020 Scheer or
00:22:11.920 anyone that
00:22:13.000 was leading
00:22:14.380 the Conservative
00:22:15.600 Party should be
00:22:16.840 ahead in the
00:22:17.380 polls by at
00:22:18.160 least 10
00:22:18.780 points.
00:22:19.440 At least.
00:22:20.500 And he
00:22:21.480 wasn't.
00:22:22.320 Like I said,
00:22:23.500 this is even
00:22:24.000 before the
00:22:24.480 Bernier
00:22:24.800 controversy.
00:22:26.680 What I'm
00:22:26.980 saying, Sheila,
00:22:27.660 is that I am
00:22:29.060 not very
00:22:29.820 confident going
00:22:31.040 into the
00:22:32.180 federal election
00:22:33.180 a year next
00:22:34.500 October with
00:22:36.700 Mr. Scheer.
00:22:37.340 And part of
00:22:38.020 that is he
00:22:41.040 doesn't seem to
00:22:42.620 stand for
00:22:43.080 anything.
00:22:43.460 And I bring it
00:22:44.440 back to what
00:22:45.540 happened to you
00:22:46.080 and Ezra when
00:22:46.760 you went to the
00:22:48.240 Conservative Party
00:22:49.140 convention last
00:22:50.300 weekend in
00:22:50.980 Halifax.
00:22:52.200 Just a week or
00:22:53.560 so before that,
00:22:55.040 Mr. Scheer made
00:22:56.580 this impassioned
00:22:57.500 speech about
00:22:58.960 freedom of
00:22:59.860 speech and
00:23:00.780 how sometimes
00:23:01.840 when you hear
00:23:02.960 things that are
00:23:03.760 offensive that
00:23:04.480 you don't like,
00:23:05.060 well that's no
00:23:05.520 reason to shut
00:23:06.180 down free
00:23:06.700 speech.
00:23:07.460 And he shut
00:23:08.720 down you and
00:23:10.060 Ezra from
00:23:11.240 covering this
00:23:12.300 convention as
00:23:13.380 members of the
00:23:14.060 media, whereas
00:23:14.900 he had open
00:23:15.940 arms for the
00:23:16.620 likes of the
00:23:17.440 CBC and all
00:23:18.920 kinds of
00:23:19.520 activist groups
00:23:20.420 to pitch their
00:23:21.320 tents inside the
00:23:22.300 convention.
00:23:23.020 What do you
00:23:23.480 make of that
00:23:24.060 since you were
00:23:24.620 on the ground
00:23:25.160 there in
00:23:25.880 Halifax,
00:23:26.420 Sheila?
00:23:26.580 You know,
00:23:27.760 that was funny
00:23:28.220 because we got
00:23:28.860 a bunch of
00:23:29.660 different excuses
00:23:30.880 from the
00:23:32.180 Conservatives about
00:23:33.020 why we couldn't
00:23:34.000 come.
00:23:34.340 At first it was
00:23:35.000 because Ezra sent
00:23:35.920 some sort of
00:23:36.440 email in 2017
00:23:37.680 that they were
00:23:38.540 rescinding our
00:23:39.720 invite.
00:23:40.540 Like it was some
00:23:41.260 sort of newsflash
00:23:42.180 that we, you
00:23:43.080 know, that we've
00:23:43.560 been critical of
00:23:44.460 the Conservatives
00:23:45.160 in the past.
00:23:45.980 But then they
00:23:46.640 told the Globe
00:23:47.920 and Mail that
00:23:48.820 they don't allow
00:23:49.520 activist groups
00:23:50.840 into the
00:23:52.440 convention.
00:23:53.580 It's a
00:23:54.240 conservative
00:23:54.760 activist
00:23:55.540 conference.
00:23:56.580 Like, do
00:23:59.300 the people
00:23:59.760 from Campaign
00:24:00.480 Life Coalition
00:24:01.340 know that they
00:24:02.440 don't allow
00:24:02.940 activists in?
00:24:03.840 Like, literally
00:24:04.600 everybody's an
00:24:05.820 activist.
00:24:06.640 And there are
00:24:07.240 training sessions
00:24:08.120 about how best
00:24:09.400 to be an
00:24:09.960 activist.
00:24:10.700 So even if
00:24:11.700 we are an
00:24:12.340 activist group,
00:24:13.140 which I think
00:24:14.020 depending on the
00:24:15.740 day I would
00:24:16.240 concede that
00:24:16.940 point 50%,
00:24:18.020 we're still
00:24:18.620 journalists but
00:24:19.200 we do a little
00:24:19.680 activism too,
00:24:22.180 why is that a
00:24:23.540 reason not to
00:24:24.100 allow us in at
00:24:24.880 an activist
00:24:25.480 convention?
00:24:26.160 But they
00:24:26.800 allowed Bob
00:24:27.760 Fyfan, who
00:24:28.880 takes voyeuristic
00:24:30.440 photos of me
00:24:31.780 exchanging
00:24:34.140 pleasantries with
00:24:35.600 a co-worker
00:24:36.440 from across the
00:24:38.060 street.
00:24:38.680 I mean, that
00:24:39.500 article that was
00:24:41.240 in the Globe and
00:24:41.960 Mail, that I
00:24:43.460 said hi to
00:24:44.780 Hamish Marshall,
00:24:45.960 it was several
00:24:47.240 hundred words
00:24:48.280 explaining that
00:24:50.260 I'm a nice
00:24:50.900 person and
00:24:52.740 that I don't
00:24:54.060 hold a grudge,
00:24:55.160 which I guess
00:24:55.940 should be a
00:24:56.400 lesson for
00:24:56.820 Andrew Scheer
00:24:57.460 that maybe he
00:24:59.360 shouldn't hold a
00:24:59.980 grudge against
00:25:00.500 me because he
00:25:01.140 and I part ways
00:25:01.980 on supply
00:25:02.560 management.
00:25:03.320 It was so
00:25:04.300 weird.
00:25:05.980 And if the
00:25:06.840 conservatives
00:25:07.700 thought that
00:25:08.120 keeping us out
00:25:09.280 of the convention
00:25:10.040 would stop stupid
00:25:11.960 articles like that
00:25:12.980 trying to link us
00:25:14.000 officially with the
00:25:15.040 conservatives, it
00:25:16.160 didn't.
00:25:16.660 It actually became
00:25:17.620 everything everybody
00:25:19.560 was talking about
00:25:20.480 including us.
00:25:22.100 The delegates
00:25:22.740 came to us
00:25:24.940 and said,
00:25:26.420 like I had
00:25:26.960 people saying,
00:25:27.680 you know what,
00:25:28.260 I don't agree with
00:25:29.100 your stance on
00:25:29.700 supply management,
00:25:30.720 but I think you
00:25:31.300 should be here.
00:25:32.120 And that was
00:25:33.040 overwhelming.
00:25:34.340 I didn't get a
00:25:34.820 single person come
00:25:36.360 up to me and say,
00:25:37.500 yeah, I'm sort of
00:25:38.520 glad they gave you
00:25:39.160 the boot here.
00:25:39.760 Like that didn't
00:25:40.280 happen at all.
00:25:41.160 And you know,
00:25:41.840 Sheila, talk about
00:25:42.860 not knowing your
00:25:44.020 audience.
00:25:44.900 I mean, as you
00:25:45.720 know, and as
00:25:46.520 probably most of our
00:25:47.540 viewers know, we
00:25:48.720 have surpassed the
00:25:50.740 one million mark in
00:25:52.140 terms of YouTube
00:25:53.560 subscribers.
00:25:55.380 And these are
00:25:56.340 people, I would
00:25:57.660 assume most of
00:25:59.080 them are being
00:25:59.740 right of center,
00:26:00.940 who don't like the
00:26:02.900 Trudeau regime,
00:26:03.680 are actually cheering
00:26:04.860 for regime change,
00:26:06.820 want maybe a
00:26:08.000 conservative government
00:26:08.960 in power.
00:26:10.140 And the way I see
00:26:11.760 it is Shear is just
00:26:12.740 giving all of our
00:26:14.040 viewers the middle
00:26:14.700 finger too.
00:26:16.960 Yeah.
00:26:18.520 That's exactly it.
00:26:19.660 We have one
00:26:20.380 million pairs of
00:26:21.680 eyeballs, a lot of
00:26:22.820 votes they want to
00:26:23.760 court.
00:26:24.380 And when they
00:26:25.420 exclude us, they're
00:26:26.880 basically turning their
00:26:27.860 backs on those votes.
00:26:29.020 And if I were Andrew
00:26:29.760 Shear right now,
00:26:30.740 there's not a single
00:26:31.660 conservative that I
00:26:32.960 would want to
00:26:33.500 alienate.
00:26:35.500 Clearly, that's not
00:26:36.380 the case.
00:26:36.880 So what went down at
00:26:38.180 the convention with
00:26:38.980 that supply management
00:26:40.060 vote and the leaked
00:26:41.200 dairy cartel briefing
00:26:44.380 document, it's pretty
00:26:46.560 clear that instead of
00:26:48.280 now that the
00:26:50.000 Band-Aid's ripped off
00:26:51.040 in the party, now
00:26:51.880 that Bernier's gone,
00:26:54.800 instead of saying,
00:26:55.580 OK, let's have these
00:26:56.400 discussions, let's solve
00:26:57.420 these problems, let's
00:26:58.720 make sure the
00:26:59.580 Bernier people stay
00:27:00.800 within the party,
00:27:02.440 Shear did the
00:27:02.860 opposite.
00:27:03.800 And, you know, he's
00:27:05.580 just alienating
00:27:07.060 supporters and voters
00:27:08.380 all over the place.
00:27:09.620 The thing is,
00:27:10.620 conservatives, I
00:27:11.440 generally think, are far
00:27:13.740 more principled than
00:27:16.040 liberals in that we
00:27:17.840 don't blindly follow our
00:27:19.100 leader and we'll call
00:27:20.520 out our leader when he's
00:27:22.220 doing something wrong.
00:27:23.440 And I think Shear is
00:27:24.700 taking that very basic
00:27:26.420 trait of the average
00:27:28.060 conservative for
00:27:28.860 granted.
00:27:29.760 And, you know, I think
00:27:31.140 you're onto something
00:27:31.660 here too, Sheila, that I
00:27:34.020 think the role of you and
00:27:36.160 I and Ezra and everybody
00:27:37.540 else at The Rebel, if we
00:27:39.220 are free-minded
00:27:40.000 individuals, and I
00:27:41.020 think we all are, is to
00:27:42.760 be kind of like that
00:27:43.680 umpire behind home plate.
00:27:45.620 We call him as we see
00:27:46.840 him.
00:27:47.340 Just like in the
00:27:48.020 provincial election, I
00:27:48.920 took some flack for
00:27:50.520 coming out, criticizing
00:27:53.800 Doug Ford for throwing
00:27:56.580 Tanya Granick-Allen under
00:27:57.860 the bus because Tanya
00:27:59.420 Granick-Allen is the
00:28:00.400 reason why Doug Ford was
00:28:02.480 the PC party leader in
00:28:04.000 Ontario and then the
00:28:05.120 premier.
00:28:05.580 Without her and her
00:28:06.880 supporters, it would have
00:28:08.480 been Christine and
00:28:09.200 Elliott, and I just
00:28:10.920 can't stomach that kind
00:28:12.520 of disloyalty.
00:28:13.300 Now, that's not to say
00:28:14.140 I'm condemning the, you
00:28:15.660 know, Ford as the
00:28:16.660 premier and as the
00:28:17.700 regime, but on that
00:28:18.780 issue, I had to take a
00:28:20.400 stand.
00:28:21.160 And as much as I would
00:28:22.480 love to support the
00:28:24.440 Conservative Party of
00:28:25.420 Canada, I'm looking at
00:28:26.960 this leader and, you
00:28:28.480 know, what do they say
00:28:29.120 in Alabama?
00:28:29.820 This dog don't hunt.
00:28:32.060 Do they say that in
00:28:33.240 Alabama?
00:28:33.980 Have you ever been
00:28:34.780 there?
00:28:34.980 Somebody who once went to
00:28:39.000 Alabama told me they say
00:28:40.240 that, is it Alabama or is
00:28:41.620 it Arkansas?
00:28:42.440 But you know what I'm
00:28:42.960 saying, you know, Sheila,
00:28:43.980 and I mean, I gave you the
00:28:46.080 example that we just talked
00:28:47.220 about how he made this
00:28:48.460 impassioned plea for free
00:28:49.760 speech and then he bans the
00:28:51.240 rebel.
00:28:51.800 And I remember a few months
00:28:53.600 earlier, he was talking
00:28:55.120 about tying university
00:28:56.960 funding to free speech
00:28:59.100 issues, that if they have a
00:29:00.000 clampdown on free speech,
00:29:01.280 and then lo and behold,
00:29:03.280 along comes the Lindsay
00:29:04.740 Shepard affair.
00:29:07.460 And Andrew Scheer, I'm just
00:29:09.480 paraphrasing here, so don't
00:29:10.740 quote me on this, but he was
00:29:11.640 basically saying, well, it's
00:29:13.360 an internal university matter
00:29:15.200 and, you know, they're going
00:29:16.560 to work out something.
00:29:17.780 Are you kidding me?
00:29:19.300 You know, it was the internal
00:29:20.580 university people that went
00:29:22.440 after this woman in the first
00:29:24.620 place.
00:29:25.280 So I'm just not, you know,
00:29:27.360 as, you know, Clara Peller
00:29:29.260 used to say in the Wendy's
00:29:30.840 heads, Sheila, where's the
00:29:33.960 beef?
00:29:36.260 You and your obscure
00:29:38.060 pop culture references.
00:29:40.340 David, honestly.
00:29:44.520 If you got to know me, Sheila,
00:29:46.820 you will find out that I am a
00:29:48.700 I know you, David.
00:29:50.600 a vast reservoir of
00:29:52.420 completely useless, trivial
00:29:54.500 information, but I'm still
00:29:56.580 going to spout it wherever I
00:29:57.840 can.
00:29:58.080 So moving on,
00:30:01.300 what do you think,
00:30:02.900 you know, Scheer, I know
00:30:05.260 Ezra has said that over the
00:30:07.620 next year and a bit, you
00:30:09.660 know, our job may be at the
00:30:10.880 rebel is to bring Scheer more
00:30:13.040 over to being a true
00:30:14.260 conservative, more right of
00:30:15.620 center.
00:30:16.800 Is it possible that we have
00:30:19.240 enough time to fix Humpty
00:30:21.420 Dumpty or are we already
00:30:23.380 looking ahead for 2023?
00:30:25.460 Maybe that's when things are
00:30:27.240 going to change.
00:30:28.780 You know, I was giving
00:30:31.240 some thought to this yesterday
00:30:32.880 and I think we have a really
00:30:34.080 good example of this
00:30:35.700 in B.C.
00:30:38.200 Andrew Weaver, the Green
00:30:40.360 Party leader, actually holds
00:30:42.420 the balance of power
00:30:43.840 because for the NDP to
00:30:45.660 maintain their
00:30:46.560 government, they need the
00:30:49.320 support of Andrew Weaver of
00:30:50.860 the Green Party.
00:30:51.520 So if, and basically, he
00:30:55.420 sets the agenda now for the
00:30:57.180 entire NDP party because they
00:30:59.100 need him to keep the coalition
00:31:00.500 together.
00:31:01.420 So, I mean, is that something
00:31:02.860 that Bernier is looking to do?
00:31:04.980 I mean, if you can't force the
00:31:06.520 conservatives to the right
00:31:07.840 from the inside, do you go
00:31:09.820 outside and be a kingmaker and
00:31:11.780 maybe hold the balance of power
00:31:13.120 in a minority government?
00:31:14.920 I don't know if he has that kind
00:31:16.340 of support yet, but the election
00:31:17.740 is, you know, a year and a bit
00:31:19.120 off.
00:31:20.080 I just wonder, first of all,
00:31:22.580 if Bernier will even have a
00:31:25.020 candidate in every riding, A,
00:31:26.960 and B, I wonder about the
00:31:29.700 caliber of those candidates.
00:31:32.640 And also, you know, Sheila,
00:31:34.760 typically, you know, in politics,
00:31:37.020 a startup protest party, it
00:31:41.040 typically goes nowhere.
00:31:42.720 So that's my fear.
00:31:44.380 But, you know, maybe you're
00:31:46.800 right.
00:31:47.180 I also think that, I think
00:31:49.480 Bernier made a strategic error
00:31:51.180 by resigning.
00:31:52.540 Maybe he could be more
00:31:53.960 effective in acting change
00:31:55.940 within the party.
00:31:56.860 What do you think about that?
00:31:59.740 That's, I agree with Bernier's
00:32:03.960 assessment of the party,
00:32:05.220 especially after having gone to
00:32:08.440 that convention.
00:32:09.340 Yes.
00:32:09.520 I do disagree with his
00:32:11.060 conclusions.
00:32:12.020 I disagree with his resolutions
00:32:13.340 to the problem.
00:32:14.980 And I'll tell you why.
00:32:16.380 Because in Alberta, we wandered
00:32:18.280 in the wilderness as
00:32:19.400 conservatives for 10 years.
00:32:22.900 We let the Redford Tories run
00:32:26.100 rampant because we took our
00:32:27.360 ball and we went over to the
00:32:28.620 Wild Rose Party.
00:32:30.580 And because of that, then we
00:32:32.620 had a vote split on the right,
00:32:34.100 which allowed the NDP to come
00:32:35.400 up the middle.
00:32:35.920 And now I'm living through the
00:32:36.940 tyranny of Rachel Notley.
00:32:38.840 So I know the damage that a
00:32:40.960 vote split can do.
00:32:41.900 And I can, I know the, the way
00:32:44.140 that it can create these
00:32:45.700 incredible unlikelihoods that we
00:32:47.780 never would have thought could
00:32:49.300 happen here in Alberta.
00:32:50.620 So, you know, I, I'm like you.
00:32:54.400 I, I don't disagree with anything
00:32:57.380 Bernier says about the party.
00:32:59.080 I just wish that he had stayed in
00:33:02.320 there, was grinding it out for
00:33:04.980 change.
00:33:05.400 And if Scheer had to get rid of
00:33:07.760 him, then let Scheer be the bad
00:33:09.320 guy.
00:33:10.340 Yeah, I agree.
00:33:11.260 And so far, unfortunately, Scheer
00:33:13.420 is being the bad guy.
00:33:15.240 Now, I've enjoyed our discussion
00:33:17.500 so much with you, Sheila.
00:33:18.460 I had hardly any chance to look at
00:33:20.780 some of the viewers and what some
00:33:22.260 of their chats have been.
00:33:24.380 Are you getting the viewer chats
00:33:25.980 on your side?
00:33:27.460 I am.
00:33:28.240 And that sort of means that you
00:33:30.200 want me to read them because I've
00:33:31.860 seen you.
00:33:32.560 The reason I'm here, David, is
00:33:34.760 because I've seen you try to read
00:33:37.440 these and it is like, you know, I
00:33:39.100 love my mother-in-law to death, but
00:33:41.120 when I'm watching her try to scroll
00:33:43.300 through her Facebook feed on her
00:33:45.500 phone and she is squinting and
00:33:47.560 squinting and she doesn't really,
00:33:48.920 she's not reading anything.
00:33:50.160 She wants to read stuff, but she
00:33:51.880 can't see it.
00:33:53.020 That's you.
00:33:53.720 And I think for my sake and for the
00:33:55.260 viewer's sake, I'm going to do
00:33:56.480 that.
00:33:56.720 Well, folks, I have to confess, I'm a
00:33:59.400 big enough man to admit this.
00:34:00.900 Some people say, why is a
00:34:03.220 battleground not a daily anymore?
00:34:05.300 Why is it a weekly?
00:34:06.900 The fact of the matter is, according
00:34:09.160 to Mr. Producer, number one, number
00:34:10.880 two, when I co-hosted those four days
00:34:13.240 in a row, I killed battleground.
00:34:15.840 I killed it.
00:34:16.520 Yes.
00:34:17.520 Battleground fell in battle to me and
00:34:20.020 it became a weekly.
00:34:21.600 And and and please, I'm trying to
00:34:23.400 make the weekly a success.
00:34:25.080 I don't want to be the guy known as
00:34:26.660 killing the weekly battleground, too.
00:34:28.480 So so Sheila is right.
00:34:30.040 So when it comes to the technical
00:34:31.680 aspects, I'm going to let the lady
00:34:34.200 take over the show and read some of
00:34:36.100 the more notable messages.
00:34:39.300 There you go, Sheila.
00:34:40.700 OK, so Patrick Max has a comment for
00:34:44.340 me.
00:34:45.040 He put it all in capital.
00:34:46.120 So I know that he means that he would
00:34:48.980 like for me to develop a tan.
00:34:52.140 And no, because I don't want to look
00:34:54.620 like an old rawhide chew toy when I'm
00:34:56.780 45, I don't want to look like a pig's
00:34:58.540 ear.
00:34:59.460 So I'm not going to get a tan.
00:35:01.540 Sorry.
00:35:02.240 But you know what, Sheila, if you if
00:35:04.040 you are going to get a tan, go all in,
00:35:06.780 become the next tan mum.
00:35:08.580 Remember that the she's now a
00:35:10.620 whack packer on the Howard Stern show.
00:35:13.120 This is a woman.
00:35:14.340 If you aren't familiar, folks, who tan
00:35:16.440 mum is, Google the words tan mum.
00:35:18.960 And basically she has overdone tanning
00:35:22.560 to an extent that her face basically
00:35:25.200 looks like a catcher's mitt now.
00:35:27.460 But this is her now her ticket to ride.
00:35:30.040 This is her notoriety.
00:35:31.920 So please, Sheila, if you are going to
00:35:34.080 tan your lovely skin, go go all in.
00:35:37.280 Go go super dark.
00:35:41.040 Hey, we have a super chat.
00:35:42.900 We have a super chat.
00:35:44.500 Yes.
00:35:45.500 It's from Fraser McBurney.
00:35:48.420 I love when the people use the real
00:35:50.160 names and not those crazy Internet names.
00:35:52.200 Anyway, it says fact with chipmunk
00:35:54.640 sheer leading the Conservatives.
00:35:56.560 They have a snowball's chance in hell
00:35:58.180 of winning the next election.
00:36:00.600 I'm inclined to believe with you,
00:36:02.720 Fraser.
00:36:04.440 It's he's not motivating anybody to
00:36:08.480 race to the polls to support him.
00:36:10.200 Now, is he?
00:36:11.020 You know, when he says chipmunk
00:36:12.840 sheer, I wonder if that'll stick.
00:36:16.100 And here's the thing, Sheila, you
00:36:17.440 know, once a politician in power
00:36:20.480 or one who's aspiring to power
00:36:22.360 starts to acquire a negative
00:36:25.760 or a comical nickname in my books,
00:36:28.000 it's over.
00:36:28.600 For example, Paul Martin,
00:36:30.200 he became known when he was
00:36:32.260 prime minister as Mr.
00:36:34.060 Dithers because he could never make
00:36:35.880 a firm decision.
00:36:36.780 I'll never forget.
00:36:37.820 It was around.
00:36:38.520 It was in December.
00:36:39.440 He was coming out of a story.
00:36:40.480 He had a Christmas wreath.
00:36:42.620 And a reporter playfully asked him,
00:36:44.920 you know, Mr. Martin, is that a
00:36:47.320 Christmas wreath or a holiday wreath?
00:36:49.960 And he looked at the camera like
00:36:52.480 Bambi staring a Hummer with its
00:36:55.360 high beams on and came up with the
00:36:58.040 answer.
00:36:58.700 It's a $50 wreath.
00:37:00.160 I mean, he couldn't even answer that
00:37:01.420 question.
00:37:01.940 And likewise, the nickname I see
00:37:04.300 people using with Andrew Scheer is
00:37:06.640 Mr. Charisma.
00:37:08.260 It's facetious, of course.
00:37:10.260 Right.
00:37:10.560 You know, once people are calling you
00:37:13.420 Mr. Charisma in a sarcastic and
00:37:16.480 sardonic way, that's not good.
00:37:20.280 Yeah, he's a milkmaid.
00:37:21.780 And I think we should try to make that
00:37:23.200 one stick to him.
00:37:24.960 Another, you know, another good
00:37:26.680 nickname, and I didn't even intend for
00:37:29.480 it to turn into a nickname, was
00:37:30.820 Climate Barbie.
00:37:33.200 And I did a really, I sort of said it
00:37:35.500 offhand.
00:37:35.560 Offhand, we were hosting a Canadian
00:37:39.280 premiere for Mark Morano's movie
00:37:41.580 Climate Hustle.
00:37:42.620 And we were in Edmonton, and we were
00:37:44.580 sort of revealing the fact that I was
00:37:46.420 going to go to the UN Climate Change
00:37:48.360 Conference, and I said that I was going
00:37:49.680 to go there to hold Climate Barbie to
00:37:51.880 account.
00:37:52.780 And everybody laughed.
00:37:53.920 And then it just sort of stuck, because
00:37:56.180 it is so accurate.
00:37:57.840 And the more she talks, the more she is
00:37:59.600 Climate Barbie.
00:38:00.640 Well, you know, and it's funny, a good
00:38:03.180 segue into another story that's really
00:38:05.920 going viral.
00:38:08.480 It's certainly the talk of the town in
00:38:10.060 Toronto.
00:38:11.280 From little Barbie dolls to real life
00:38:14.340 giant Barbie dolls, what was in the
00:38:16.180 news recently, Sheila, if you can
00:38:18.340 imagine, next week there was supposed
00:38:20.740 to be a so-called brothel opening in the
00:38:24.600 Young Shepherd area of Toronto, North
00:38:27.500 Toronto, that is.
00:38:28.780 And basically what the difference is,
00:38:30.780 folks, is that you wouldn't meet a real
00:38:35.340 live female prostitute, but you would
00:38:37.600 have a doll made out of 100% silicone.
00:38:43.680 And I think I got the rate chart here,
00:38:46.780 $80 for a half hour, $120 for an hour if
00:38:49.640 you want to, a duo, that's $240.
00:38:52.720 And people were just going crazy.
00:38:56.080 And the way this story has developed,
00:39:00.100 first of all, Sheila, you know, there's
00:39:02.580 a funny quote by the local councillor,
00:39:04.720 John Fillion, who was saying that many
00:39:07.540 parents were coming up to him and saying,
00:39:09.920 we're trying to explain this to our
00:39:13.580 kids, to which I had to say, explain it
00:39:16.820 to me, right?
00:39:17.940 I mean, what kind of a man is going to a
00:39:21.860 strip plaza, going into a room for half
00:39:24.580 an hour, paying $80 and being with a
00:39:27.900 a doll.
00:39:30.540 And I just, you know, there's so many
00:39:33.460 angles to take this.
00:39:34.600 But I wonder, you know, Sheila, it comes
00:39:37.420 down to this.
00:39:38.180 Is this maybe a good thing for those men
00:39:41.340 who are completely socially awkward?
00:39:44.540 They can't form a relationship with a
00:39:46.920 real woman or another person?
00:39:49.200 Or is there maybe a dark side to this
00:39:52.480 that maybe these are people that, you
00:39:55.580 know, have deviant behavior, like they
00:39:57.940 like to get physically violent, which, of
00:40:00.060 course, would be illegal with a real
00:40:01.400 woman, but with a doll, you can slap it
00:40:03.640 around.
00:40:04.000 What's your take on this?
00:40:06.280 Well, first off, this is why the aliens
00:40:07.980 won't visit us.
00:40:08.940 Second off, what do you mean?
00:40:13.320 Could there maybe be a dark side to this?
00:40:15.400 This is all dark, all dark.
00:40:17.840 This is darkness.
00:40:21.000 The these, you know, like you say, like
00:40:23.300 maybe this is for people who don't have
00:40:25.080 social skills.
00:40:26.180 Well, this is stopping them from
00:40:27.700 developing marketable social skills to
00:40:30.000 the opposite sex.
00:40:31.160 You know, like if you're bad at talking
00:40:33.680 to girls and you you don't have a lot
00:40:36.280 of charisma, maybe you just like to drink
00:40:38.720 milk and talk about supply management.
00:40:41.240 Um, you know, um, you're not learning
00:40:45.880 anything like the only way you learn to
00:40:48.100 be good at talking to girls is get out
00:40:50.160 there and talk to them.
00:40:51.100 And, you know, if they turn you down
00:40:53.060 because you're weird, maybe you'll be a
00:40:54.360 little less weird next time.
00:40:55.600 But this actually stops people from
00:40:57.240 developing social skills.
00:40:58.520 And this is the natural progression from
00:41:02.460 people who, you know, this is a society
00:41:05.420 that sits, we communicate to each other
00:41:08.260 over our phones and over our computers.
00:41:10.220 And I'm saying this as I'm literally
00:41:11.880 communicating to all of our viewers
00:41:14.180 across the computer.
00:41:15.380 But, you know, like we don't have a lot
00:41:17.280 of human interaction anymore or less
00:41:19.040 than what we used to.
00:41:19.960 So we don't have those social skills.
00:41:21.500 So instead of developing them, we take
00:41:23.480 the easy way out and we go do gross
00:41:27.240 things to a piece of plastic.
00:41:29.300 It's terrible.
00:41:30.440 You know, Sheila, you know, the question
00:41:32.260 arises, though, should this be illegal?
00:41:36.240 And I think right now with the laws of the
00:41:38.120 land, this is not illegal.
00:41:40.580 In fact, prostitution in Canada is not
00:41:42.680 illegal.
00:41:43.120 It's the act of solicitation, as I understand
00:41:45.720 it.
00:41:46.020 So Canada's got a real goofy prostitution
00:41:48.240 law to begin with.
00:41:49.080 It's like you're allowed to be a little
00:41:51.040 bit pregnant by the sounds of it.
00:41:53.080 But I mean, the reason why this doll
00:41:56.900 brothel will not be opening next week in
00:41:59.340 the Young Shepherd area is that the
00:42:01.660 authorities found a way in decades old
00:42:05.260 zoning bylaws to not allow it.
00:42:07.860 So in other words, I don't think they're
00:42:09.100 allowed to be in a residential retail
00:42:11.380 area, but they could open up in an
00:42:14.580 industrial area.
00:42:16.220 Even so, where would you stand on this,
00:42:19.440 you know, in terms of putting on your
00:42:20.960 libertarian hat?
00:42:22.400 If this is something people want to do,
00:42:24.520 spend their money and spend some time in
00:42:26.560 the darkness with a silicone doll, so be
00:42:29.700 it.
00:42:29.900 Or do you think there's some rationale here
00:42:32.460 for the state to step in?
00:42:35.440 No, I mean, if these dolls look like
00:42:37.480 adults, then yeah, I got to put on my
00:42:39.400 libertarian hat and say it's sort of,
00:42:41.520 sort of none of my business.
00:42:43.720 It's not something I agree with.
00:42:45.040 It's not something that I don't, like, I
00:42:48.100 don't want to even know a person who would
00:42:51.200 participate in this.
00:42:52.180 I don't, and if I, I'll cut them right out
00:42:54.320 of my life, like with a knife.
00:42:56.340 But yeah, I don't think it's the
00:42:59.820 government's business.
00:43:00.600 Listen, you and I were talking about this
00:43:02.000 off camera.
00:43:03.080 You said this is, came from Japan, which
00:43:05.640 explains a lot because, and you know, like
00:43:09.600 Japanese viewers don't write in because
00:43:13.000 you guys know that you have a weirdness
00:43:15.160 about sexuality and writing me angry,
00:43:18.580 writing me angry letters is not going to
00:43:20.480 change that.
00:43:22.480 Yeah, this, it, you know, what I was
00:43:24.480 reading, like an article in the
00:43:25.880 Independent that says, like, young
00:43:27.780 Japanese people are basically asexual.
00:43:30.540 They're not into it at all.
00:43:32.580 Like, they don't have that, like,
00:43:34.460 hormonally driven virility that Western
00:43:37.860 young people have.
00:43:38.740 They just, it's dead.
00:43:39.820 It's, nothing's happening.
00:43:41.880 And they sort of like it that way.
00:43:43.460 And, and, uh, so I suppose this was an
00:43:46.460 outlet for them in Japan, but, uh, I would
00:43:49.320 hate the idea that this is going to come
00:43:50.700 here and change how young men and young
00:43:53.360 women interact with each other, but you
00:43:55.420 know, which actually, sorry that actually
00:43:57.340 I'm going to interrupt you because I just
00:43:58.720 had a thought and I'm going to forget it
00:43:59.840 because you're going to talk about
00:44:00.740 something science fictiony.
00:44:02.080 I know it.
00:44:03.100 Um, but you know, uh, maybe part of this
00:44:08.000 stems from the fact that young men are
00:44:09.540 sort of scared to interact with young
00:44:12.360 women because of this ongoing cry about
00:44:14.880 rape culture that like any awkward male
00:44:18.000 heterosexual interaction is harassment or,
00:44:21.780 you know, abuse and it's just not that
00:44:23.680 way.
00:44:24.280 So maybe this is like protection.
00:44:25.980 I never thought of that.
00:44:26.920 There's no way a, um, 120 pound doll made
00:44:30.420 out of pure silicone is going to, uh, uh,
00:44:32.920 have a me to moment because it's an
00:44:35.300 inanimate object.
00:44:36.020 But you said something very interesting,
00:44:38.220 uh, earlier Sheila, when you began, uh,
00:44:41.460 your answer, as long as the doll looks
00:44:44.560 like a adult, uh, human being, as opposed
00:44:47.860 to, I assume, uh, a child.
00:44:50.220 And, but when you, and, and I'm not trying
00:44:52.580 to get too creepy here and it, and it does
00:44:55.980 creep me out, but you know, you could make
00:44:58.380 the point that if it's an inanimate object,
00:45:00.540 it's not, uh, living, it's, it's not a human
00:45:04.220 being, uh, does it matter at all what that
00:45:07.540 thing looks like?
00:45:09.360 Yes.
00:45:10.200 Yes.
00:45:10.660 Actually, I think there's some sort of level
00:45:12.180 of necrophilia in all of this that I don't,
00:45:15.500 I, I, you know what, like it's just laying
00:45:18.300 there, you know, smells better than a dead
00:45:22.180 body, but reacts the same way.
00:45:23.780 I just, I think this is all just weird,
00:45:25.500 but we have a super chat.
00:45:26.880 Oh, fantastic.
00:45:28.480 And this is a super chat.
00:45:29.420 I'm going to take a screenshot of this and
00:45:30.900 send it to the boss, um, because we deserve
00:45:33.360 kudos for this.
00:45:34.100 It says it's from Pete Henderson.
00:45:35.840 He's given us almost 10 bucks Canadian, I
00:45:38.740 suppose.
00:45:39.240 And he says, you two are good.
00:45:41.220 And I will subscribe to the Rebel Premium.
00:45:44.660 We got one, David.
00:45:46.400 Fantastic.
00:45:47.000 You know, I, and, uh, did you say Pete
00:45:49.860 Henderson or Paul Henderson?
00:45:51.720 Pete Henderson.
00:45:52.800 Oh, okay then.
00:45:53.200 Don't be a nerd.
00:45:54.160 Well, as long as you're a Henderson, see,
00:45:56.060 Henderson's are gold because, you know,
00:45:58.100 it was, it was Paul Henderson that scored
00:46:00.140 the, the winning goal at the Summit Series in
00:46:01.920 1972, as you know, Sheila, and Pete
00:46:04.640 Henderson giving us these kudos.
00:46:06.540 The Henderson's top notch.
00:46:08.680 Love them.
00:46:09.020 Um, and, um, and by the way, uh, I'll
00:46:11.980 tell you, I think this is, uh, before we
00:46:14.680 put to bed, uh, no pun intended, the, uh,
00:46:17.260 Aura Dolls story.
00:46:18.760 I think the most disturbing thing was the
00:46:21.320 official statement that came from the
00:46:23.860 doll brothel, which is this, and I'll read
00:46:26.180 it verbatim to you, Sheila.
00:46:27.980 The dolls are thoroughly sanitized to meet
00:46:31.240 your expectations.
00:46:33.040 We take extreme measures when it comes to
00:46:36.240 the safety of our clients.
00:46:38.160 The use of condoms are highly recommended.
00:46:43.300 Anyways, I don't know where to go with
00:46:44.880 that.
00:46:45.280 I just wonder who's got the job of
00:46:47.820 sanitizing the dolls after these visits.
00:46:52.600 David, I'm dry heaving.
00:46:54.460 I'm dry heaving.
00:46:55.740 You have to stop.
00:46:56.380 I have that effect on so many women.
00:46:58.220 You would, you'd be surprised.
00:47:00.120 Right.
00:47:00.560 But, um, uh, that, uh, so anyways, we
00:47:04.420 will, we will keep an eye on this story
00:47:06.140 because, um, uh, we'll see.
00:47:08.020 We won't, we won't, we won't, you can, uh, we
00:47:11.180 won't.
00:47:11.720 Well, Mr. Producer number two is also, uh,
00:47:14.540 nodding his head negatively through the
00:47:16.000 window.
00:47:16.380 We are not going to add Mr. Producer number
00:47:18.480 one by the looks of it.
00:47:19.400 So I think it's a consensus folks.
00:47:21.520 We will drop this story.
00:47:22.740 Even if they relocate in an industrial park,
00:47:25.280 uh, somewhere in Markham or Woodbridge, uh, we
00:47:28.180 are not going to talk more about this, um,
00:47:30.200 or a doll story because obviously it's
00:47:32.840 creeping too many reasonable minded people
00:47:36.860 out.
00:47:37.700 So there you go.
00:47:39.000 Do you have some other chats that you'd
00:47:40.420 like to read, Sheila?
00:47:42.140 Um, let's see.
00:47:43.500 Okay.
00:47:43.740 People are, uh, let's see.
00:47:48.340 Well, yeah, people are concerned that we
00:47:50.240 got off on a bit of a side road there.
00:47:53.600 Oh boy.
00:47:54.720 David Rogers says, introducing the new
00:47:57.720 Sheila doll.
00:47:58.380 Well, the Sheila doll would, um, feed the
00:48:02.560 chickens and yell at her kids in Costco.
00:48:07.620 You know what?
00:48:08.460 You know, it's not as.
00:48:09.820 I bet you we'd sell a lot of Sheila dolls.
00:48:12.440 Um, you know, I, I did a commentary, um,
00:48:14.860 a month ago.
00:48:15.780 No, not guys.
00:48:17.220 Not that, not, not that kind of doll.
00:48:19.180 I mean, uh, like a, uh, uh, like a, uh,
00:48:21.780 the toy doll, right?
00:48:24.040 Like the Justin Trudeau doll I talked about.
00:48:26.960 Not that kind of doll.
00:48:28.660 You know, I'm saying, you know, Sheila, uh,
00:48:30.860 Like a bobblehead where I nod disapprovingly
00:48:33.960 at you every time you open your mouth.
00:48:36.260 Exactly.
00:48:36.400 Like a bobblehead.
00:48:37.140 We have the Ezra bobblehead.
00:48:38.740 We have from the Bradford Exchange,
00:48:40.780 the Justin Trudeau, um, 38 centimeter tall
00:48:44.300 doll that, uh, I did a, which, which
00:48:46.280 talks actually.
00:48:47.200 It has a collection of his quotes.
00:48:48.860 The lamest quotes you could ever imagine,
00:48:52.580 you know, so that, that kind of doll.
00:48:54.400 I don't, I don't want to give anyone
00:48:55.460 the wrong impression.
00:48:56.220 We are not going to make a 120 pound
00:48:58.600 silicone doll in the, uh, in the form
00:49:01.560 of Sheila Gunn-Reed ever.
00:49:03.300 And I said it.
00:49:04.540 Okay.
00:49:05.320 Carry on, Sheila.
00:49:07.880 Do I still have a job here?
00:49:10.120 No.
00:49:10.740 And you don't have a friendship with me either.
00:49:13.160 We're done.
00:49:13.720 So, and so Sheila, did you say you have
00:49:19.000 another chat there?
00:49:20.620 Uh, sure.
00:49:21.240 Let's get another chat.
00:49:22.220 Okay.
00:49:22.640 Uh, okay.
00:49:23.880 Well, here's one to make up for things
00:49:25.220 from Milo McDonald, Sheila looking gorgeous.
00:49:28.360 There you go.
00:49:28.900 Does that put me, does that put me in your
00:49:30.680 good books again, Sheila?
00:49:32.440 Well, Amanda Joy's got a heck of an idea for me.
00:49:35.460 Um, and I'm crafty.
00:49:37.240 So this is sort of right up my alley.
00:49:38.760 I'm a crafter and a sewer.
00:49:40.220 So it says, how about voodoo doll of David?
00:49:43.160 So you can stick pins in him.
00:49:44.780 David, if your back is sore later,
00:49:46.780 I got out the sewing machine.
00:49:49.560 Well, you know what?
00:49:50.280 Um, I guess I have to, what do I,
00:49:52.360 do I have to, um, cut off a lock of my hair
00:49:54.580 and send it to you?
00:49:55.860 You need something from the actual human
00:49:58.420 to make a real voodoo doll.
00:49:59.900 Is there any experts on voodoo dolls
00:50:01.520 that could weigh in and, and, uh,
00:50:03.760 give Sheila some direction to make a voodoo doll
00:50:06.260 out of me and see if it works?
00:50:10.640 Oh, and by the way, folks,
00:50:11.840 if you think I'm creepy,
00:50:13.720 Sheila opened up to me on the Israel trip
00:50:16.100 that the rebel conducted last month.
00:50:17.940 And I'll tell you, she admitted to me
00:50:20.000 she was hand knitting,
00:50:22.380 and this is a great skill,
00:50:23.980 hand knitting, um,
00:50:25.420 was it toks, Sheila,
00:50:26.620 for the, the brony community?
00:50:29.180 Yeah.
00:50:29.460 Because the bronies will pay.
00:50:32.040 And the bronies, folks,
00:50:33.460 in case that's a new term for you,
00:50:34.880 these are predominantly adult males
00:50:37.560 that are fans of a cartoon, uh,
00:50:41.320 targeted at the three to six girl demographic
00:50:44.380 called My Little Pony, Friendship is Magic.
00:50:47.340 And they actually have an annual convention
00:50:49.280 every year in Baltimore.
00:50:50.720 They had, I think, 12,000 people, uh,
00:50:53.480 earlier this month to attend.
00:50:55.080 Um, and, uh, so,
00:50:57.180 Sheila is part of that community,
00:51:00.500 shall we say?
00:51:00.960 I'm not, David!
00:51:02.600 And is profiting from it.
00:51:06.240 I profited from it,
00:51:08.760 but I'm not currently profiting from it.
00:51:11.720 Yes, I crochet.
00:51:13.780 I crochet very well.
00:51:15.060 Actually, I'm one of those traditional women
00:51:17.300 who is really good at the domestic skills.
00:51:20.320 And, uh, I was approached by someone
00:51:22.800 in the brony community,
00:51:24.980 and they said, hey,
00:51:26.740 can you make me this?
00:51:28.700 And I can.
00:51:29.940 So I did.
00:51:30.640 And then I became the exclusive brony hat supplier
00:51:33.180 to the greater Edmonton area,
00:51:34.800 which is an interesting story
00:51:36.180 that I didn't want you to tell anybody.
00:51:38.480 Well, now that the cat's out of the bag,
00:51:40.560 uh, what are the bronies like, Sheila?
00:51:43.780 Uh, you know what?
00:51:44.760 I couldn't pick one out of a crowd.
00:51:46.240 Like, that's the weird thing.
00:51:47.760 Huh.
00:51:47.980 Uh, they seem, uh, pretty normal.
00:51:50.440 Um, they're just like bronies after dark.
00:51:52.920 Are there any...
00:51:53.540 They could be you.
00:51:54.340 It could be you.
00:51:55.700 It's definitely not me.
00:51:56.960 I would love to hear people,
00:51:58.820 if there are any bronies watching,
00:52:00.280 uh, to, um, you know,
00:52:02.620 give us a few lines,
00:52:03.660 tell us what the community's all about.
00:52:05.940 You see, here's the thing, Sheila.
00:52:07.060 Uh, to me, this is so bizarre,
00:52:09.680 so disturbing,
00:52:10.400 that there are adult males
00:52:12.200 that are into this little girl cartoon
00:52:15.040 to the point that they're buying
00:52:16.080 thousands of dollars worth of merchandise
00:52:17.560 and going to annual conventions
00:52:18.980 that people say to me,
00:52:21.260 Menzoid, uh, uh, you know,
00:52:23.140 you talk a lot of, you know,
00:52:24.660 you know what about the bronies.
00:52:26.180 Have you ever actually watched
00:52:27.720 My Little Pony?
00:52:28.560 And, Sheila, the answer is no.
00:52:30.440 And I'll tell you why the answer is no.
00:52:32.100 It's not that I'm too lazy to do research.
00:52:34.520 It's just that I'm scared to death
00:52:36.460 I might like it
00:52:37.560 and become a brony, too.
00:52:39.580 So, that's why I've never seen
00:52:41.700 My Little Pony Friendship is Magic.
00:52:43.580 Yeah, but it's really not that far off
00:52:46.820 for you, David.
00:52:47.860 Like, you like all these weird
00:52:49.520 pop culture things.
00:52:50.940 And I don't even,
00:52:51.500 I'm not even going to say they're pop culture
00:52:53.180 because they're really not from,
00:52:54.680 like, this century.
00:52:56.520 Like, every time I send you an email,
00:52:58.120 it's always some weird, uh, science fiction
00:53:01.720 or comic book reference
00:53:03.360 that no normal person will understand.
00:53:06.080 You are, um, you're a brony
00:53:08.740 waiting for a place to happen.
00:53:10.140 You just don't like purple, I don't think.
00:53:11.920 No, it's just that, um, you know,
00:53:15.160 I guess I see things with this other sense.
00:53:18.340 I mean, Lady Menzoid bought a Mitsubishi
00:53:20.860 and I couldn't help but notice
00:53:23.240 that the logo for Mitsubishi Motors
00:53:26.700 looks almost identical
00:53:29.220 to the insignia of the Klingon Empire.
00:53:31.760 So, I bought her a little keychain
00:53:34.120 with the Klingon Empire insignia on it.
00:53:37.200 And, um, I think that was a very, uh,
00:53:39.640 sweet thing for me to do.
00:53:40.780 And I asked you to Google
00:53:42.000 the Mitsubishi logo
00:53:43.160 and the Klingon insignia
00:53:44.380 and I don't think you ever bothered
00:53:45.780 to do so, did you?
00:53:47.640 No, because I didn't have time
00:53:49.580 to Google the, uh, Klingon Empire symbol
00:53:51.780 because I was too busy
00:53:52.820 saying a rosary for your wife
00:53:55.720 because, um, that woman is a saint.
00:53:58.960 I love her.
00:53:59.940 She's a saint.
00:54:00.960 Um, she really took one for the team
00:54:02.720 when she took you off the market.
00:54:03.920 Oh, well, we'll have to pass that on.
00:54:07.540 Now, Sheila, I see that it's the,
00:54:09.260 it's the two minute warning
00:54:10.680 as they would say in the NFL
00:54:12.560 in the fourth quarter.
00:54:13.800 So, do you want to throw a few, uh,
00:54:15.980 oh, I think we got a super chat
00:54:17.460 if you want to, uh, throw it out there.
00:54:19.300 Sure.
00:54:20.300 It's from ChrisIT86
00:54:22.760 and I think I know him from Twitter.
00:54:25.260 He's a great guy.
00:54:26.040 Um, big fan of, um, at least me.
00:54:29.480 I don't know about you, David,
00:54:30.600 but he says, vote Faith Goldie for mayor.
00:54:34.700 Um, Faith, um, I wish her nothing but the best.
00:54:38.800 And, uh, uh, you know, I, I, uh,
00:54:41.440 I have great affection for Faith
00:54:43.040 and I hope, um, that, uh,
00:54:45.480 everything in her life
00:54:46.600 becomes exactly what she wants it.
00:54:49.320 Um, and by the way,
00:54:50.800 I should mention, Sheila,
00:54:52.460 that Faith was in the news actually,
00:54:54.340 uh, a day or two ago.
00:54:56.040 Uh, she was canvassing in Toronto
00:54:58.020 and, um, I think all the hardcore Faith haters
00:55:02.220 were really trying to make this a,
00:55:03.640 a much bigger story than it actually was.
00:55:05.740 There were some members of the, uh,
00:55:07.360 Toronto police that posed, uh,
00:55:09.440 for pictures with Faith
00:55:10.520 and, um, you know, people were screaming,
00:55:13.320 oh, these cops should be reprimanded,
00:55:14.980 they should be suspended.
00:55:15.980 The fact of the matter is,
00:55:17.600 is that, um, people, you know,
00:55:20.380 when you're out in public,
00:55:21.280 uh, when you're running for office
00:55:23.080 and this applies to all politicians
00:55:25.240 of all political stripes,
00:55:26.700 when you're in a crowd,
00:55:27.900 you never know who it is
00:55:29.220 that comes out of a crowd,
00:55:30.680 stands beside you,
00:55:31.500 and a picture is taken.
00:55:32.760 So I, I just thought this was, um,
00:55:34.740 a really unnecessary smear job
00:55:36.620 by, uh, you know,
00:55:37.840 her hardcore haters.
00:55:39.020 I'll say that.
00:55:39.700 Well, you know what, David,
00:55:42.360 I got to tell you,
00:55:43.140 I think we redeemed ourselves,
00:55:45.140 or not we,
00:55:46.340 but you redeemed yourselves
00:55:48.060 when you brought in the ringer here
00:55:49.980 to save the show
00:55:51.020 because happy infidel Fox
00:55:53.520 says David and Sheila
00:55:55.240 have great chemistry.
00:55:58.640 And, um,
00:56:01.560 Amanda Joyce said,
00:56:03.080 sorry, go ahead.
00:56:03.700 Oh, I want to thank him for that.
00:56:04.820 In fact, that's inspired me
00:56:06.340 in the spirit of bronyism
00:56:08.660 to write my own screenplay
00:56:10.660 for an animated series.
00:56:12.380 And it will be called this,
00:56:13.920 My Little Sheila,
00:56:15.300 Friendship is Magic.
00:56:16.740 What do you think about that?
00:56:17.700 Oh, my Lord.
00:56:19.240 You know what?
00:56:20.040 Mr. Producer just yelled
00:56:21.400 in my ear,
00:56:22.000 time's off.
00:56:23.980 Cut.
00:56:24.860 We're done.
00:56:25.900 Well, folks,
00:56:26.740 I hope you enjoyed that.
00:56:28.660 I, I,
00:56:29.020 we talked about all kinds of things,
00:56:30.840 the Kinder Morgan
00:56:32.520 and Supply Management
00:56:33.900 and the Conservative Party of Canada
00:56:35.500 and the Aura Dolls
00:56:37.420 and the brony community.
00:56:40.540 And, uh,
00:56:41.380 listen,
00:56:42.400 it's the last day of August.
00:56:43.780 Uh, uh,
00:56:45.000 unofficially summer ends
00:56:46.580 on, uh, Tuesday.
00:56:48.140 Uh, so, listen,
00:56:49.280 I, I hope all of you
00:56:50.940 go out and have a really fun,
00:56:54.300 safe time on this Labor Day weekend.
00:56:56.720 And, uh,
00:56:57.720 last word over
00:56:58.580 to Sheila Gunn-Reed,
00:56:59.740 who did a fantastic job
00:57:01.000 as co-host today.
00:57:02.160 What do you say, Sheila?
00:57:03.900 I want to wish
00:57:04.820 all the farmers out there
00:57:06.300 a very happy,
00:57:08.100 fruitful harvest.
00:57:09.060 And remember,
00:57:09.900 don't let the government
00:57:10.680 tell you that you've had
00:57:11.660 too much to think.
00:57:13.360 Fantastic.
00:57:14.240 Thanks so much, everybody.
00:57:15.720 Have a great weekend.