Rebel News Podcast - LIVE with David Menzies & Sheila Gunn Reid! Trump vs. Trudeau on Trade!

00:00:00.000 Good afternoon. It's Friday, August 31st, 2018. I'm David Menzies, and this is Ezra Levent's Battleground.

00:00:15.180 Hey folks, great to have you with us. I'm David Menzies filling in for Ezra Levent, and because Ezra does the work of so many others here, I can't do this show alone.

00:00:25.580 That's why there's another special co-host filling in with me today, and that would be the one and only Sheila Gunn-Reed from Alberta. 0.99

00:00:34.560 How you doing there, Sheila?

00:00:36.400 Hey David, this is going to be fun. It's going to be like the Donnie and Marie show, but for conservatives.

00:00:43.080 You know, that brings up really bad memories of the two years I spent in Newfoundland in the mid-70s.

00:00:49.160 All I had, it was two TV channels. It was CBC and CTV, and because I was a mainlander, which meant I was a complete loser and had no friends,

00:00:59.960 on Friday night at 10 o'clock, my choice was on CTV, The Donnie and Marie Show, and on CBC, Tommy Hunter Country.

00:01:09.020 Wow, was I ever waiting for the internet to be invented? I almost bought a CB radio, actually, to break the Donnie.

00:01:18.040 So, but Sheila, great to see you again.

00:01:21.600 And now, so much in the news to talk about, I think first and foremost, is this disgraceful court of appeal decision to, I think,

00:01:35.840 not just put the kibosh on the Trans Mountain Kinder Morgan project, but maybe putting the kibosh on billions and billions of dollars

00:01:46.500 of future investment, especially in the mining and oil and gas sector in Canada.

00:01:53.720 Sheila, you're much closer to this story than I am, of course, being in Alberta.

00:01:58.880 Are people going crazy in the Wild Rose province right now?

00:02:03.120 Short answer, yes.

00:02:05.660 You know, you and I were talking about this earlier.

00:02:07.700 If this were the Quebec hydro industry that wasn't allowed to sell their hydro, or if this were the Ontario auto sector,

00:02:17.560 or Saskatchewan agriculture, there would be rumblings about separation.

00:02:25.240 And that's what we're hearing here.

00:02:27.160 We're seeing more and more people, reasonable people, who are looking at all of this and saying,

00:02:31.540 what exactly is the point of confederation when we're being treated like the country's changed purse?

00:02:37.720 They've, you know, the equalization payments never change, no matter how many pipelines don't get built.

00:02:43.980 Alberta still pays a lot into equalization and doesn't get a lot back. 0.99

00:02:48.620 And we don't have any help from the federal government to help us get our resources to Tidewater.

00:02:55.560 David, it is crazy.

00:02:56.960 It is absolutely crazy that, you know, we're the world's third largest oil resource.

00:03:03.260 The third largest.

00:03:04.880 We can't get our oil to Tidewater.

00:03:07.600 This would absolutely never happen anywhere else in the world, except in Canada,

00:03:12.180 when we're letting these foreign-funded radicals set the agenda and make these appeals to the appeal court

00:03:19.020 that ultimately end up blocking our pipeline projects.

00:03:22.400 But Sheila, foreign-funded radicals, that's one thing. 1.00

00:03:25.340 That's one kettle of fish.

00:03:26.320 But the Court of Appeal decision here, I think this is judicial activism at its very worst.

00:03:32.920 First of all, I absolutely don't buy their rationale for killing this project.

00:03:38.700 First and foremost, not enough consultation with Aboriginal groups.

00:03:44.460 The facts of the matter show that there were nine months of discussions with Aboriginal groups.

00:03:50.960 And by the way, some Aboriginal groups, as you well know, are pro-pipeline.

00:03:54.460 I guess their opinion doesn't count.

00:03:56.840 So is this what we're seeing here?

00:03:58.420 Are these, I guess, social justice warrior judges on the Court of Appeal?

00:04:04.780 Because I'll tell you, I think when you sit down with groups for nine months and listen to them,

00:04:12.900 how is that not consultation?

00:04:15.360 Well, and David, there were four rounds of consultation.

00:04:19.960 Two initial rounds before the Liberals took over and another two after the fact.

00:04:24.700 And the word is consultation.

00:04:26.940 The word is not permission.

00:04:28.980 We have a duty to consult.

00:04:30.780 We don't have a duty to seek permission from everybody who wants to weigh in on this pipeline project.

00:04:35.740 Because that's what confederation is about.

00:04:38.280 We're seeing Canada balkanize, and the Feds aren't really doing anything about it.

00:04:44.140 You know, I think you're onto something here, Sheila.

00:04:46.700 It's almost as though the definition of consultation has been changed,

00:04:51.940 which is to say that if a native group says,

00:04:54.660 here is our problem and this is why we want it stopped,

00:04:57.220 and you say, I beg to differ,

00:05:00.020 having a difference of opinion,

00:05:02.400 at least as far as I can interpret the judge's ruling,

00:05:05.000 means that you didn't consult.

00:05:07.180 In other words, because you didn't echo their opinion,

00:05:12.760 their point of view,

00:05:13.920 therefore there was no consultation.

00:05:16.120 And that's perverse.

00:05:18.140 Well, and let's go back a little bit.

00:05:20.080 The Northern Gateway Pipeline project was squashed by the court.

00:05:24.860 That approval was squashed by the court in 2016.

00:05:29.060 The Trudeau Liberals never decided to appeal that decision.

00:05:32.480 They basically let the pipeline die.

00:05:35.440 Rachel Notley in Alberta here was happy also to let the pipeline die 0.91

00:05:39.800 because she said there was not adequate consultation with First Nations groups.

00:05:44.520 That's what the court said at the time.

00:05:45.840 So, in two years, the Liberals had to do something

00:05:50.280 to make that consultation process adequate.

00:05:54.360 They didn't really.

00:05:55.160 And, you know, Rachel Notley and Justin Trudeau,

00:05:59.780 well, I don't know about Justin Trudeau,

00:06:00.920 but Rachel Notley has come out and said that the Court of Appeals decision was wrong.

00:06:05.380 So, if it's wrong now,

00:06:07.720 why was it right when it happened to Northern Gateway?

00:06:11.820 It just seems like, you know,

00:06:13.480 they're offloading this political hot potato onto the court 0.74

00:06:17.260 when neither one of them, Justin Trudeau nor Rachel Notley,

00:06:19.920 none of them really want to see this pipeline get built,

00:06:22.300 but at least they can say that they weren't responsible for the voice of no.

00:06:25.580 Yeah, they're now finding convenient boogeymen to point the finger to.

00:06:32.040 And, you know, the numbers are staggering.

00:06:33.580 I mean, Sheila, in the last five quarters, I understand,

00:06:36.920 foreign companies have withdrawn a net $8.2 billion

00:06:40.900 from Canada's energy and mining sector,

00:06:43.700 and that compares with the previous decade to those five quarters,

00:06:48.240 an investment of some $130 billion.

00:06:52.560 But I think all this decision does, Sheila,

00:06:55.780 is reinforce to the rest of the world

00:06:58.040 that this is a lousy place to make an investment in

00:07:02.440 when it comes to energy development.

00:07:04.660 Yeah, we're seeing companies pull out of Alberta,

00:07:07.080 and they're going to far more safe places for investment,

00:07:11.400 like Iraq and Egypt.

00:07:13.220 You know, that's pretty telling.

00:07:16.580 And let's not forget we have a pretty business-friendly administration

00:07:21.660 right to the south of us.

00:07:23.940 You know, let's take a look at the Dakota Access Pipeline project.

00:07:27.340 Donald Trump literally signed a piece of paper

00:07:31.460 and breathed life into that pipeline

00:07:33.960 after ongoing protests that actually left environmental disasters behind them.

00:07:43.740 And it was just so easy because there was political will to get that done.

00:07:48.600 And companies, international companies, when they're looking at that,

00:07:51.980 when you're looking at Canada and saying,

00:07:53.940 you know what, the Dakotas have the exact same oil formation

00:07:58.660 as southern Saskatchewan,

00:08:00.320 but why would we invest in Saskatchewan

00:08:02.400 when we can actually get something done in the United States?

00:08:06.140 Oh, I wouldn't put a dime into this country

00:08:08.160 given the judicial environment right now based on this.

00:08:12.740 But I guess the big question is,

00:08:14.500 where does it go from here, Sheila?

00:08:18.400 It doesn't go anywhere.

00:08:19.780 I mean, it's up to Justin Trudeau

00:08:21.760 to appeal this decision to the Supreme Court.

00:08:24.520 I haven't heard whether or not he's going to do that.

00:08:26.340 That should have been the first thing out of his mouth yesterday.

00:08:29.580 It wasn't.

00:08:31.500 And Rachel Notley is talking tough,

00:08:34.680 but she's actually doing absolutely nothing.

00:08:37.820 And I think we have a clip that Mr. Producer put together for us.

00:08:44.660 You know what, I just wanted to say Mr. Producer

00:08:46.860 because I'm a huge Mark Levin fan

00:08:48.800 and he always says Mr. Producer.

00:08:51.160 And I've been waiting my whole life to say that.

00:08:53.500 But I think Mr. Producer has a series of clips

00:08:55.980 put together from Rachel Notley's press conference yesterday.

00:08:59.900 And one intrepid reporter actually did an accidental piece of journalism

00:09:07.880 and asked her a really good question.

00:09:09.900 And I think you're going to be amazed with the response.

00:09:13.880 Here.

00:09:14.620 The current state of affairs in Canada right now

00:09:17.280 is such that building a pipeline to tidewater

00:09:20.520 is practically impossible.

00:09:23.560 As a result,

00:09:24.820 our ability to transport our most profitable commodity

00:09:28.800 is subject to the whims of the White House

00:09:31.940 and the U.S. government.

00:09:33.780 Yet as important as climate action is

00:09:36.260 to our province's future,

00:09:38.220 I've also always said

00:09:39.520 that taking the next step

00:09:41.500 and signing on to the federal climate plan

00:09:43.940 can't happen

00:09:44.840 without the Trans Mountain pipeline.

00:09:46.840 And so,

00:09:49.980 today,

00:09:50.560 I'm announcing that

00:09:52.160 with the Trans Mountain halted

00:09:54.360 and the work on it halted,

00:09:56.240 until the federal government gets its act together,

00:09:58.760 Alberta is pulling out

00:09:59.960 of the federal climate plan.

00:10:02.300 Mr. Secretary,

00:10:02.740 it's a fault you said

00:10:03.480 to be withdrawing from the national climate plan.

00:10:05.580 What does that look like?

00:10:06.560 What would you actually be doing differently now

00:10:08.340 than you were doing yesterday?

00:10:09.780 Well,

00:10:10.420 you're quite right

00:10:11.520 that the impact of our participation

00:10:13.180 in the national plan

00:10:14.380 comes into effect

00:10:15.320 when the price goes up to $40.

00:10:17.320 So,

00:10:17.680 right now,

00:10:18.580 there wouldn't be an immediate impact,

00:10:21.040 but it comes down to

00:10:22.320 our government's role

00:10:24.540 in terms of promoting the plan overall

00:10:26.280 and their ability to count on us

00:10:28.380 to be part of it.

00:10:29.440 What does this mean,

00:10:30.100 Premier,

00:10:30.560 to Alberta's carbon tax?

00:10:32.900 Our carbon tax,

00:10:34.140 as it sits right now,

00:10:35.160 the Alberta Climate Leadership Plan

00:10:36.460 stays in place.

00:10:37.400 That was a,

00:10:38.040 the Climate Leadership Plan

00:10:39.220 was something we put in place

00:10:40.420 before the federal government was elected,

00:10:42.780 before we got into the conversation

00:10:44.120 about Kinder Morgan.

00:10:45.320 or the Trans Mountain.

00:10:47.660 But,

00:10:48.200 we've always been very clear

00:10:49.740 that signing on

00:10:50.620 to the Pan-Canadian Framework

00:10:51.940 or the federal government's plan

00:10:53.160 was conditional

00:10:54.460 on the pipeline.

00:10:57.660 Well,

00:10:58.160 you know,

00:10:58.700 it sounds to me,

00:11:00.600 what's that saying again,

00:11:01.820 Sheila?

00:11:02.200 A day late

00:11:02.840 and a pound short

00:11:03.740 in terms of this issue.

00:11:05.760 You know,

00:11:05.920 it's funny,

00:11:06.480 as we were running that clip,

00:11:08.560 I got a response here

00:11:11.180 from one of our viewers,

00:11:12.760 Leonard Roth.

00:11:14.160 And this is what he says,

00:11:15.300 as the Republic of Western Canada,

00:11:17.720 we would be one of the richest countries

00:11:20.020 on the planet.

00:11:21.520 Time for the rebel

00:11:22.220 to get behind

00:11:22.940 the separation movement.

00:11:24.720 You know,

00:11:25.020 it raises the point,

00:11:26.180 Sheila,

00:11:26.740 if you were to,

00:11:28.360 I mean,

00:11:28.580 this is a completely hypothetical situation,

00:11:31.580 but again,

00:11:32.860 in the early 90s,

00:11:34.480 who could have foreseen

00:11:35.380 that there was going to be

00:11:36.080 a referendum in Quebec again

00:11:37.640 for separation in 1995.

00:11:40.660 But if you were to put it

00:11:41.860 to Western Canadians,

00:11:43.340 how would you vote

00:11:45.500 if it meant

00:11:47.060 leaving Confederation

00:11:48.400 that the handcuffs

00:11:50.560 of all this

00:11:51.920 judicial

00:11:53.040 and environmental

00:11:53.900 and Aboriginal

00:11:55.080 activism

00:11:56.060 is off of us

00:11:57.540 and we can develop

00:11:58.920 our oil sands

00:12:00.060 and get our product

00:12:00.860 to market,

00:12:01.700 do you think

00:12:02.240 that would be

00:12:02.780 enough of a carrot 0.99

00:12:03.620 to actually make

00:12:05.380 the vote 50% plus one?

00:12:08.300 Do you know what?

00:12:08.840 I am,

00:12:09.560 I'd like to think

00:12:10.600 that I'm not a separatist.

00:12:11.900 I'd like to think

00:12:13.440 that I am,

00:12:14.440 you know,

00:12:15.060 pro-Canadian

00:12:15.740 and I think that I am,

00:12:17.200 but there comes a time

00:12:19.700 and I think it's coming

00:12:20.780 pretty soon

00:12:22.040 if it's not here yet

00:12:23.200 where normal people

00:12:24.320 like me

00:12:24.740 who are very pro-Canadian

00:12:25.900 are looking around

00:12:26.480 and saying,

00:12:26.980 what in the heck

00:12:28.120 am I doing here?

00:12:29.260 If we became

00:12:30.660 the 51st state,

00:12:33.480 we could get pipelines built.

00:12:34.720 There's no issue

00:12:35.460 of any sort of

00:12:36.240 cross-border nonsense.

00:12:38.180 It can happen

00:12:39.260 with a stroke of a pen

00:12:40.640 from the president's office.

00:12:42.520 There's none of this

00:12:43.380 finagling

00:12:45.940 and for,

00:12:47.600 there's no patience

00:12:49.340 for foreign-funded radicals

00:12:51.140 and activist courts

00:12:52.840 to put the kibosh

00:12:54.320 on these nation-building projects.

00:12:57.120 And, you know,

00:12:57.780 they truly are nation-building,

00:12:59.260 but if they're not getting done,

00:13:00.460 then what's the point

00:13:01.240 of staying within a nation?

00:13:02.700 Now, you rushed me

00:13:04.340 past that clip

00:13:05.160 from Notley

00:13:06.800 because she says

00:13:07.500 a heck of a lot

00:13:08.460 of nothing in there.

00:13:09.620 The first part,

00:13:11.120 she takes a sideways swipe 0.52

00:13:12.700 at Donald Trump.

00:13:13.960 And that's stupid

00:13:16.140 because I think

00:13:18.140 Krista Freeland

00:13:18.720 can attest to what happens

00:13:20.180 when you take

00:13:20.620 a sideways swipe

00:13:21.720 at Donald Trump.

00:13:23.960 The Keystone XL pipeline

00:13:25.680 right now

00:13:26.160 is probably the only pipeline

00:13:27.280 that's ever going

00:13:28.120 to get built

00:13:28.860 under both current governments

00:13:30.860 here in Alberta

00:13:31.580 and federally.

00:13:32.720 And it doesn't do anybody

00:13:33.680 any favours to say

00:13:34.640 the White House

00:13:35.740 is the problem.

00:13:36.780 The White House

00:13:37.340 is not the problem.

00:13:38.560 The White House

00:13:39.320 are our friends.

00:13:40.680 The problem is,

00:13:41.540 you know,

00:13:41.760 these American activist groups

00:13:43.420 that are sort of interloping

00:13:45.000 and funding Canadian activism

00:13:46.700 on the ground.

00:13:48.000 And then,

00:13:48.660 when Rachel Notley

00:13:49.380 says that she's going

00:13:50.140 to pull out

00:13:51.500 of the federal government's

00:13:53.580 climate plan,

00:13:55.100 a reporter then asks her, 0.62

00:13:56.420 well,

00:13:56.580 what does that mean?

00:13:57.520 And it literally means

00:13:58.340 absolutely nothing

00:13:59.480 because Alberta

00:14:01.100 still has their carbon tax.

00:14:03.220 It's going to go up

00:14:04.040 when Rachel Notley

00:14:04.760 says it's going to go up.

00:14:06.020 And I really don't care

00:14:07.200 whose face is on

00:14:08.280 my carbon tax bill,

00:14:09.460 whether it's Rachel Notley

00:14:10.860 or Catherine McKenna's,

00:14:12.340 I'm still paying

00:14:13.080 a carbon tax.

00:14:14.160 So all of this

00:14:15.080 means nothing to me.

00:14:16.120 I still have a carbon tax,

00:14:17.860 but I have no pipeline.

00:14:19.160 So what's the difference?

00:14:21.120 Well,

00:14:21.360 all we can hope for,

00:14:22.600 Sheila,

00:14:22.780 I think,

00:14:23.300 is that for this

00:14:24.100 to go to the Supreme Court,

00:14:25.800 again,

00:14:27.640 you know,

00:14:28.060 talk about time is money.

00:14:29.380 We're talking months,

00:14:30.380 if not years,

00:14:31.060 to get some kind of,

00:14:32.500 you know,

00:14:32.800 final resolution on this.

00:14:34.520 And by the way,

00:14:35.220 since you mentioned

00:14:35.960 the United States

00:14:36.860 and Donald Trump,

00:14:38.280 great segue into our

00:14:40.100 second pressing topic

00:14:41.400 of the day,

00:14:42.360 especially with this

00:14:43.400 being deadline Friday

00:14:44.960 and the U.S. and Canada

00:14:47.180 coming to a deal,

00:14:49.580 maybe,

00:14:50.100 hopefully,

00:14:50.600 who knows.

00:14:51.620 Now,

00:14:52.220 let's be honest,

00:14:53.160 this is a,

00:14:53.760 you know,

00:14:54.360 this is a phony deadline.

00:14:55.500 This is a deadline

00:14:56.440 imposed by Donald Trump.

00:14:59.300 And it's not as though

00:15:00.420 it can be extended or not.

00:15:02.420 But I have to say,

00:15:03.920 from what I'm reading

00:15:04.700 and what I'm hearing,

00:15:05.800 Sheila,

00:15:06.340 I'm not optimistic

00:15:07.660 that a deal is going to be done

00:15:09.320 either today

00:15:09.980 or in the weeks ahead.

00:15:12.420 David,

00:15:12.960 can I tell you

00:15:13.440 why I'm not optimistic

00:15:14.760 is because it's the Friday

00:15:16.100 before a long weekend.

00:15:17.500 So there's literally

00:15:18.720 nobody in government working.

00:15:20.340 Like,

00:15:20.500 we're the only people working,

00:15:21.660 David.

00:15:22.220 Nobody in government works

00:15:23.480 Friday before a long weekend.

00:15:24.980 There's nobody there.

00:15:26.440 So they're not,

00:15:27.200 you know,

00:15:27.960 I think the writing

00:15:29.840 is on the wall

00:15:30.700 for the Canadians.

00:15:31.500 We're playing catch up

00:15:32.420 with the Mexicans.

00:15:34.320 The Mexicans 1.00

00:15:34.980 who were like

00:15:35.760 the target

00:15:36.620 of Donald Trump's ire

00:15:38.320 since he was campaigning.

00:15:40.960 So for two years,

00:15:41.720 even before he became

00:15:42.800 the president,

00:15:43.820 his target

00:15:44.700 was the Mexicans.

00:15:46.440 And somehow,

00:15:47.360 the Canadian administration

00:15:48.420 is so stupid,

00:15:50.860 stupid, 0.98

00:15:51.360 that they turned

00:15:53.400 his focus

00:15:54.200 like a laser beam

00:15:55.200 on to us.

00:15:56.000 And I'm not hopeful.

00:15:58.780 I wish

00:15:59.780 things were more optimistic,

00:16:02.420 especially for

00:16:03.760 Canada's auto sector.

00:16:07.640 But I'm not sure

00:16:09.740 that a deal

00:16:10.340 that Canadians want

00:16:11.580 is going to get done

00:16:12.300 anytime soon.

00:16:13.380 And, you know,

00:16:13.920 Sheila,

00:16:14.220 what was the deal

00:16:15.200 a couple of days ago?

00:16:16.360 I mean,

00:16:17.660 what came to mind

00:16:19.020 was that Blondie hit

00:16:20.080 from the early 80s

00:16:20.980 hanging on the telephone

00:16:22.100 when Donald Trump

00:16:23.620 tried to phone

00:16:24.500 Justin Trudeau

00:16:25.700 and Trudeau

00:16:26.640 wouldn't take

00:16:27.340 Trump's call.

00:16:29.060 I mean,

00:16:29.860 does our prime minister

00:16:32.920 have a little

00:16:33.620 delusion

00:16:34.940 in terms of

00:16:35.840 who's the dog

00:16:36.860 and who's the tail here?

00:16:39.300 First of all,

00:16:40.160 I don't know that song

00:16:41.100 because I'm not 75.

00:16:43.080 It's a great song.

00:16:44.900 I'm sure it is, David.

00:16:45.880 I'm sure it is.

00:16:48.920 But, you know,

00:16:51.020 it's Justin Trudeau.

00:16:52.080 He's the king

00:16:52.540 of the personal day.

00:16:53.920 What is he doing?

00:16:54.520 What is he too busy doing?

00:16:56.340 Was there like

00:16:56.840 a mean hacky sack

00:16:58.140 tournament

00:16:58.600 out front

00:16:59.640 that he was missing out on?

00:17:00.940 Like, what is he doing

00:17:01.840 that is more important

00:17:03.100 than plucking

00:17:04.280 the Canadian economy

00:17:05.400 out of the fire?

00:17:06.440 I mean,

00:17:07.100 when you don't take

00:17:08.520 calls from someone,

00:17:09.520 it's either because

00:17:10.180 you're scared,

00:17:11.380 which, you know,

00:17:12.380 that's why I avoid

00:17:13.180 phone calls from Ezra.

00:17:14.240 And secondly,

00:17:16.160 I'm kidding.

00:17:17.040 He's the best boss

00:17:17.780 in the world.

00:17:18.880 Or that you,

00:17:20.280 that you're,

00:17:21.680 you don't have anything

00:17:22.460 to say.

00:17:23.140 Like, what could Trudeau

00:17:24.960 say to Donald Trump

00:17:26.800 that could fix this mess?

00:17:28.580 I don't know.

00:17:29.500 And I'm kind of one,

00:17:31.040 you know,

00:17:31.300 and I think the prickly

00:17:32.800 thing too,

00:17:33.880 you know,

00:17:34.660 the Americans

00:17:35.240 are coming after

00:17:36.360 supply management.

00:17:38.600 Andrew Scheer's

00:17:40.800 favourite little

00:17:41.760 hobby horse,

00:17:42.600 evidently.

00:17:43.580 And I'm wondering

00:17:44.960 if, you know,

00:17:45.960 in closed door

00:17:46.780 negotiations,

00:17:48.060 this is the big

00:17:49.040 sticking point

00:17:49.860 and this is what

00:17:50.800 we're going to,

00:17:51.740 I don't know,

00:17:52.240 potentially sacrifice

00:17:53.560 the Canadian economy

00:17:55.300 by way of,

00:17:56.540 for example,

00:17:56.980 the Ontario auto industry,

00:17:58.320 which, by the way,

00:17:59.040 Sheila,

00:17:59.580 if you were just

00:18:00.220 to shut that down

00:18:01.180 for a few days,

00:18:02.340 would mean monumental

00:18:03.560 damage to the economy.

00:18:05.020 What's your take

00:18:06.640 on this lack

00:18:08.280 of a deal

00:18:08.700 getting done?

00:18:10.500 Well, I think

00:18:11.600 that it's probably

00:18:12.600 contingent on

00:18:14.160 all those SJW

00:18:16.000 nonsense things

00:18:16.980 that they put

00:18:17.560 into the negotiations

00:18:18.680 like,

00:18:20.100 like,

00:18:21.540 women's issues,

00:18:24.120 like,

00:18:25.280 what gender

00:18:26.220 is the car

00:18:27.060 coming off

00:18:28.020 the manufacturing

00:18:28.960 line in Oshawa?

00:18:31.020 Like, it's so stupid.

00:18:32.780 But,

00:18:33.260 you know,

00:18:34.440 a lot of this,

00:18:35.600 I'm sure,

00:18:36.080 hangs on supply

00:18:36.980 management.

00:18:38.340 And it's,

00:18:40.200 Donald Trump

00:18:40.940 will ultimately

00:18:41.880 be the one

00:18:42.500 who kills

00:18:43.020 supply management

00:18:43.820 in Canada,

00:18:44.500 whether Trudeau

00:18:45.300 or Andrew Scheer

00:18:46.100 liked it or not.

00:18:47.280 And Andrew Scheer

00:18:48.320 burned up

00:18:49.340 a heck of a lot

00:18:50.700 of political capital

00:18:51.820 by supporting

00:18:53.300 supply management.

00:18:54.500 He alienated

00:18:55.380 half the party.

00:18:56.640 And even people

00:18:58.140 who support

00:18:58.740 supply management

00:18:59.460 were thoroughly

00:19:00.300 annoyed with Andrew Scheer

00:19:01.600 that the discussion

00:19:02.420 wasn't even allowed

00:19:03.200 to take place.

00:19:03.920 I mean,

00:19:04.700 and for less

00:19:05.640 than 1%

00:19:06.340 of the economy,

00:19:07.040 we're putting

00:19:07.600 about 20%

00:19:08.500 of it in jeopardy.

00:19:09.460 And that's just

00:19:10.080 the auto sector.

00:19:11.060 That's not,

00:19:11.760 you know,

00:19:12.000 any potential pipeline

00:19:13.240 from Alberta

00:19:14.260 that could be

00:19:15.080 put on the shelf

00:19:16.200 because we've

00:19:16.880 annoyed the Americans.

00:19:18.540 Well,

00:19:19.140 you know,

00:19:19.400 I'm just trying

00:19:19.900 to think.

00:19:20.600 There are indeed

00:19:21.660 some chick cars

00:19:22.700 out there,

00:19:23.560 the Mazda Miata,

00:19:24.860 the Volkswagen

00:19:25.520 new Beetle,

00:19:26.380 but I don't think

00:19:27.260 they're made

00:19:27.640 in Canada.

00:19:28.480 So,

00:19:29.060 maybe that's

00:19:30.660 part of the issue.

00:19:31.620 We have to get

00:19:32.360 more feminine

00:19:33.800 automobiles

00:19:35.200 into the

00:19:35.640 interior auto sector.

00:19:37.720 David,

00:19:37.980 you drive

00:19:38.500 a feminine automobile. 0.94

00:19:39.820 Oh,

00:19:39.940 how dare you?

00:19:41.460 No,

00:19:42.240 you do.

00:19:43.260 You drive

00:19:44.200 one of those

00:19:45.180 electronic

00:19:46.420 emasculations

00:19:47.460 of a car

00:19:48.100 that you plug

00:19:49.220 into a wall

00:19:49.960 like a blow dryer.

00:19:51.200 You drive

00:19:51.840 one of those.

00:19:52.720 You're part

00:19:53.300 of the problem,

00:19:54.180 David.

00:19:54.620 No,

00:19:55.000 but my other

00:19:55.620 car is a

00:19:56.420 pickup truck

00:19:56.980 and I think

00:19:57.400 I'm going to

00:19:57.740 look for a

00:19:58.500 bumper sticker

00:19:59.080 that says that

00:19:59.840 and I'll put it

00:20:00.360 on my Ford

00:20:01.460 Fusion plug-in

00:20:02.380 hybrid that you 0.81

00:20:03.460 so detest.

00:20:05.120 But didn't detest

00:20:06.060 it that much

00:20:06.740 that you didn't

00:20:07.460 want to take a

00:20:08.040 ride back to

00:20:08.640 your hotel

00:20:09.280 in Toronto

00:20:10.280 when you were

00:20:10.760 by for Rebel

00:20:11.480 Live,

00:20:11.960 you know,

00:20:12.680 back in June.

00:20:13.780 But anyways,

00:20:14.640 we digress.

00:20:15.540 I was drunk,

00:20:16.300 David.

00:20:16.700 I was drunk.

00:20:20.740 Oh,

00:20:21.220 boy.

00:20:21.820 So,

00:20:22.180 you know,

00:20:22.640 and by the way,

00:20:23.600 Sheila,

00:20:23.900 again,

00:20:24.940 since I

00:20:25.620 mentioned Scheer,

00:20:27.280 where do you

00:20:28.480 think Scheer

00:20:29.800 is going to

00:20:30.400 stand on

00:20:31.300 all this

00:20:31.820 nonsense

00:20:32.560 going on,

00:20:33.780 especially

00:20:34.980 with the

00:20:35.540 pipeline issue

00:20:36.460 and of course

00:20:37.100 this trade

00:20:37.960 agreement that

00:20:38.640 might not

00:20:39.180 come to

00:20:39.760 fruition,

00:20:40.760 especially

00:20:42.060 since he

00:20:43.560 in a way

00:20:44.440 has painted

00:20:44.980 himself into

00:20:45.660 a corner

00:20:46.120 because the

00:20:47.120 only reason

00:20:47.600 he is the

00:20:48.840 Conservative Party

00:20:49.740 leader,

00:20:50.320 let's face it,

00:20:51.560 and I mean,

00:20:52.180 he wouldn't

00:20:52.820 deny this,

00:20:53.400 I don't think,

00:20:54.120 given that he

00:20:54.600 was drinking

00:20:55.080 a carton

00:20:55.740 of milk

00:20:56.120 at his

00:20:56.540 acceptance

00:20:56.960 speech,

00:20:57.360 is because of

00:20:58.460 the dairy

00:20:58.880 farmers lobby

00:20:59.840 putting him

00:21:01.000 there because

00:21:01.520 of his

00:21:02.060 commitment

00:21:02.580 to supply

00:21:03.520 management.

00:21:04.440 Do you think

00:21:04.760 this was a

00:21:05.400 big misstep

00:21:06.180 for him?

00:21:06.620 I absolutely

00:21:08.640 think it was a

00:21:09.240 big misstep.

00:21:10.220 Now, Andrew

00:21:11.280 Scheer's only

00:21:11.800 options are

00:21:12.840 this misplaced

00:21:14.220 Trudeau support

00:21:15.220 masquerading as

00:21:16.820 patriotism and

00:21:19.360 support for the

00:21:20.300 Canadian economy

00:21:21.120 when really the

00:21:22.220 focus should be

00:21:22.860 on how badly

00:21:23.980 Trudeau has

00:21:24.640 bungled this

00:21:25.520 from the very

00:21:26.620 beginning.

00:21:27.460 When Donald

00:21:28.320 Trump took

00:21:28.960 office, he

00:21:29.820 said he would

00:21:30.440 absolutely be

00:21:31.400 renegotiating

00:21:32.200 NAFTA.

00:21:32.580 The federal

00:21:35.340 conservatives

00:21:35.900 should have

00:21:37.040 been preparing

00:21:39.040 for what that

00:21:40.860 meant for them

00:21:41.540 as far as

00:21:41.920 their positions

00:21:42.520 and they've

00:21:44.520 bungled this

00:21:45.140 really, quite

00:21:45.960 frankly, as

00:21:46.520 badly as the

00:21:47.520 Liberals have

00:21:48.140 because really

00:21:49.000 right now

00:21:49.620 there's no

00:21:49.920 difference between

00:21:50.480 the two parties.

00:21:51.700 I think you

00:21:52.840 raise a good

00:21:53.180 point here,

00:21:53.620 Sheila, in

00:21:54.120 terms of the

00:21:54.720 bungling. 0.62

00:21:55.800 Even before

00:21:56.700 the Bernier

00:21:57.440 mess of last

00:21:58.660 week, I would

00:22:00.020 put to you

00:22:00.820 that with

00:22:01.820 Justin Trudeau's

00:22:03.360 almost three

00:22:04.540 years of

00:22:05.340 embarrassments

00:22:06.340 and bungling 0.79

00:22:07.240 and diplomatic

00:22:08.260 faux pas

00:22:09.540 that Andrew

00:22:11.020 Scheer or

00:22:11.920 anyone that

00:22:13.000 was leading

00:22:14.380 the Conservative

00:22:15.600 Party should be

00:22:16.840 ahead in the

00:22:17.380 polls by at

00:22:18.160 least 10

00:22:18.780 points.

00:22:19.440 At least.

00:22:20.500 And he

00:22:21.480 wasn't.

00:22:22.320 Like I said,

00:22:23.500 this is even

00:22:24.000 before the

00:22:24.480 Bernier

00:22:24.800 controversy.

00:22:26.680 What I'm

00:22:26.980 saying, Sheila,

00:22:27.660 is that I am

00:22:29.060 not very

00:22:29.820 confident going

00:22:31.040 into the

00:22:32.180 federal election

00:22:33.180 a year next

00:22:34.500 October with

00:22:36.700 Mr. Scheer.

00:22:37.340 And part of

00:22:38.020 that is he

00:22:41.040 doesn't seem to

00:22:42.620 stand for

00:22:43.080 anything.

00:22:43.460 And I bring it

00:22:44.440 back to what

00:22:45.540 happened to you

00:22:46.080 and Ezra when

00:22:46.760 you went to the

00:22:48.240 Conservative Party

00:22:49.140 convention last

00:22:50.300 weekend in

00:22:50.980 Halifax.

00:22:52.200 Just a week or

00:22:53.560 so before that,

00:22:55.040 Mr. Scheer made

00:22:56.580 this impassioned

00:22:57.500 speech about

00:22:58.960 freedom of

00:22:59.860 speech and

00:23:00.780 how sometimes

00:23:01.840 when you hear

00:23:02.960 things that are

00:23:03.760 offensive that

00:23:04.480 you don't like,

00:23:05.060 well that's no

00:23:05.520 reason to shut

00:23:06.180 down free

00:23:06.700 speech.

00:23:07.460 And he shut

00:23:08.720 down you and

00:23:10.060 Ezra from

00:23:11.240 covering this

00:23:12.300 convention as

00:23:13.380 members of the

00:23:14.060 media, whereas

00:23:14.900 he had open

00:23:15.940 arms for the

00:23:16.620 likes of the

00:23:17.440 CBC and all

00:23:18.920 kinds of

00:23:19.520 activist groups

00:23:20.420 to pitch their

00:23:21.320 tents inside the

00:23:22.300 convention.

00:23:23.020 What do you

00:23:23.480 make of that

00:23:24.060 since you were

00:23:24.620 on the ground

00:23:25.160 there in

00:23:25.880 Halifax,

00:23:26.420 Sheila?

00:23:26.580 You know,

00:23:27.760 that was funny

00:23:28.220 because we got

00:23:28.860 a bunch of

00:23:29.660 different excuses

00:23:30.880 from the

00:23:32.180 Conservatives about

00:23:33.020 why we couldn't

00:23:34.000 come.

00:23:34.340 At first it was

00:23:35.000 because Ezra sent

00:23:35.920 some sort of

00:23:36.440 email in 2017

00:23:37.680 that they were

00:23:38.540 rescinding our

00:23:39.720 invite.

00:23:40.540 Like it was some

00:23:41.260 sort of newsflash

00:23:42.180 that we, you

00:23:43.080 know, that we've

00:23:43.560 been critical of

00:23:44.460 the Conservatives

00:23:45.160 in the past.

00:23:45.980 But then they

00:23:46.640 told the Globe

00:23:47.920 and Mail that

00:23:48.820 they don't allow

00:23:49.520 activist groups

00:23:50.840 into the

00:23:52.440 convention.

00:23:53.580 It's a

00:23:54.240 conservative

00:23:54.760 activist

00:23:55.540 conference.

00:23:56.580 Like, do

00:23:59.300 the people

00:23:59.760 from Campaign

00:24:00.480 Life Coalition

00:24:01.340 know that they

00:24:02.440 don't allow

00:24:02.940 activists in?

00:24:03.840 Like, literally

00:24:04.600 everybody's an

00:24:05.820 activist.

00:24:06.640 And there are

00:24:07.240 training sessions

00:24:08.120 about how best

00:24:09.400 to be an

00:24:09.960 activist.

00:24:10.700 So even if

00:24:11.700 we are an

00:24:12.340 activist group,

00:24:13.140 which I think

00:24:14.020 depending on the

00:24:15.740 day I would

00:24:16.240 concede that

00:24:16.940 point 50%,

00:24:18.020 we're still

00:24:18.620 journalists but

00:24:19.200 we do a little

00:24:19.680 activism too,

00:24:22.180 why is that a

00:24:23.540 reason not to

00:24:24.100 allow us in at

00:24:24.880 an activist

00:24:25.480 convention?

00:24:26.160 But they

00:24:26.800 allowed Bob

00:24:27.760 Fyfan, who

00:24:28.880 takes voyeuristic

00:24:30.440 photos of me

00:24:31.780 exchanging

00:24:34.140 pleasantries with

00:24:35.600 a co-worker

00:24:36.440 from across the

00:24:38.060 street.

00:24:38.680 I mean, that

00:24:39.500 article that was

00:24:41.240 in the Globe and

00:24:41.960 Mail, that I

00:24:43.460 said hi to

00:24:44.780 Hamish Marshall,

00:24:45.960 it was several

00:24:47.240 hundred words

00:24:48.280 explaining that

00:24:50.260 I'm a nice

00:24:50.900 person and

00:24:52.740 that I don't

00:24:54.060 hold a grudge,

00:24:55.160 which I guess

00:24:55.940 should be a

00:24:56.400 lesson for

00:24:56.820 Andrew Scheer

00:24:57.460 that maybe he

00:24:59.360 shouldn't hold a

00:24:59.980 grudge against

00:25:00.500 me because he

00:25:01.140 and I part ways

00:25:01.980 on supply

00:25:02.560 management.

00:25:03.320 It was so

00:25:04.300 weird.

00:25:05.980 And if the

00:25:06.840 conservatives

00:25:07.700 thought that

00:25:08.120 keeping us out

00:25:09.280 of the convention

00:25:10.040 would stop stupid

00:25:11.960 articles like that

00:25:12.980 trying to link us

00:25:14.000 officially with the

00:25:15.040 conservatives, it

00:25:16.160 didn't.

00:25:16.660 It actually became

00:25:17.620 everything everybody

00:25:19.560 was talking about

00:25:20.480 including us.

00:25:22.100 The delegates

00:25:22.740 came to us

00:25:24.940 and said,

00:25:26.420 like I had

00:25:26.960 people saying,

00:25:27.680 you know what,

00:25:28.260 I don't agree with

00:25:29.100 your stance on

00:25:29.700 supply management,

00:25:30.720 but I think you

00:25:31.300 should be here.

00:25:32.120 And that was

00:25:33.040 overwhelming.

00:25:34.340 I didn't get a

00:25:34.820 single person come

00:25:36.360 up to me and say,

00:25:37.500 yeah, I'm sort of

00:25:38.520 glad they gave you

00:25:39.160 the boot here.

00:25:39.760 Like that didn't

00:25:40.280 happen at all.

00:25:41.160 And you know,

00:25:41.840 Sheila, talk about 1.00

00:25:42.860 not knowing your

00:25:44.020 audience.

00:25:44.900 I mean, as you

00:25:45.720 know, and as

00:25:46.520 probably most of our

00:25:47.540 viewers know, we

00:25:48.720 have surpassed the

00:25:50.740 one million mark in

00:25:52.140 terms of YouTube

00:25:53.560 subscribers.

00:25:55.380 And these are

00:25:56.340 people, I would

00:25:57.660 assume most of

00:25:59.080 them are being

00:25:59.740 right of center,

00:26:00.940 who don't like the

00:26:02.900 Trudeau regime,

00:26:03.680 are actually cheering

00:26:04.860 for regime change,

00:26:06.820 want maybe a

00:26:08.000 conservative government

00:26:08.960 in power.

00:26:10.140 And the way I see

00:26:11.760 it is Shear is just

00:26:12.740 giving all of our

00:26:14.040 viewers the middle

00:26:14.700 finger too.

00:26:16.960 Yeah.

00:26:18.520 That's exactly it.

00:26:19.660 We have one

00:26:20.380 million pairs of

00:26:21.680 eyeballs, a lot of

00:26:22.820 votes they want to

00:26:23.760 court.

00:26:24.380 And when they

00:26:25.420 exclude us, they're 0.99

00:26:26.880 basically turning their

00:26:27.860 backs on those votes.

00:26:29.020 And if I were Andrew

00:26:29.760 Shear right now,

00:26:30.740 there's not a single

00:26:31.660 conservative that I

00:26:32.960 would want to

00:26:33.500 alienate.

00:26:35.500 Clearly, that's not

00:26:36.380 the case.

00:26:36.880 So what went down at

00:26:38.180 the convention with

00:26:38.980 that supply management

00:26:40.060 vote and the leaked

00:26:41.200 dairy cartel briefing

00:26:44.380 document, it's pretty

00:26:46.560 clear that instead of

00:26:48.280 now that the

00:26:50.000 Band-Aid's ripped off

00:26:51.040 in the party, now

00:26:51.880 that Bernier's gone,

00:26:54.800 instead of saying,

00:26:55.580 OK, let's have these

00:26:56.400 discussions, let's solve

00:26:57.420 these problems, let's

00:26:58.720 make sure the

00:26:59.580 Bernier people stay 0.99

00:27:00.800 within the party,

00:27:02.440 Shear did the

00:27:02.860 opposite.

00:27:03.800 And, you know, he's

00:27:05.580 just alienating

00:27:07.060 supporters and voters

00:27:08.380 all over the place.

00:27:09.620 The thing is,

00:27:10.620 conservatives, I

00:27:11.440 generally think, are far

00:27:13.740 more principled than

00:27:16.040 liberals in that we

00:27:17.840 don't blindly follow our

00:27:19.100 leader and we'll call

00:27:20.520 out our leader when he's

00:27:22.220 doing something wrong.

00:27:23.440 And I think Shear is

00:27:24.700 taking that very basic

00:27:26.420 trait of the average

00:27:28.060 conservative for

00:27:28.860 granted.

00:27:29.760 And, you know, I think

00:27:31.140 you're onto something

00:27:31.660 here too, Sheila, that I

00:27:34.020 think the role of you and

00:27:36.160 I and Ezra and everybody

00:27:37.540 else at The Rebel, if we

00:27:39.220 are free-minded

00:27:40.000 individuals, and I

00:27:41.020 think we all are, is to

00:27:42.760 be kind of like that

00:27:43.680 umpire behind home plate.

00:27:45.620 We call him as we see

00:27:46.840 him.

00:27:47.340 Just like in the

00:27:48.020 provincial election, I

00:27:48.920 took some flack for

00:27:50.520 coming out, criticizing

00:27:53.800 Doug Ford for throwing

00:27:56.580 Tanya Granick-Allen under

00:27:57.860 the bus because Tanya

00:27:59.420 Granick-Allen is the

00:28:00.400 reason why Doug Ford was

00:28:02.480 the PC party leader in

00:28:04.000 Ontario and then the

00:28:05.120 premier.

00:28:05.580 Without her and her

00:28:06.880 supporters, it would have

00:28:08.480 been Christine and

00:28:09.200 Elliott, and I just

00:28:10.920 can't stomach that kind

00:28:12.520 of disloyalty.

00:28:13.300 Now, that's not to say

00:28:14.140 I'm condemning the, you

00:28:15.660 know, Ford as the

00:28:16.660 premier and as the

00:28:17.700 regime, but on that

00:28:18.780 issue, I had to take a

00:28:20.400 stand.

00:28:21.160 And as much as I would

00:28:22.480 love to support the

00:28:24.440 Conservative Party of

00:28:25.420 Canada, I'm looking at 0.89

00:28:26.960 this leader and, you

00:28:28.480 know, what do they say

00:28:29.120 in Alabama?

00:28:29.820 This dog don't hunt.

00:28:32.060 Do they say that in

00:28:33.240 Alabama?

00:28:33.980 Have you ever been

00:28:34.780 there?

00:28:34.980 Somebody who once went to

00:28:39.000 Alabama told me they say

00:28:40.240 that, is it Alabama or is

00:28:41.620 it Arkansas?

00:28:42.440 But you know what I'm

00:28:42.960 saying, you know, Sheila,

00:28:43.980 and I mean, I gave you the

00:28:46.080 example that we just talked

00:28:47.220 about how he made this

00:28:48.460 impassioned plea for free

00:28:49.760 speech and then he bans the

00:28:51.240 rebel.

00:28:51.800 And I remember a few months

00:28:53.600 earlier, he was talking

00:28:55.120 about tying university

00:28:56.960 funding to free speech

00:28:59.100 issues, that if they have a

00:29:00.000 clampdown on free speech,

00:29:01.280 and then lo and behold,

00:29:03.280 along comes the Lindsay

00:29:04.740 Shepard affair.

00:29:07.460 And Andrew Scheer, I'm just

00:29:09.480 paraphrasing here, so don't

00:29:10.740 quote me on this, but he was

00:29:11.640 basically saying, well, it's

00:29:13.360 an internal university matter

00:29:15.200 and, you know, they're going

00:29:16.560 to work out something.

00:29:17.780 Are you kidding me?

00:29:19.300 You know, it was the internal

00:29:20.580 university people that went

00:29:22.440 after this woman in the first

00:29:24.620 place.

00:29:25.280 So I'm just not, you know,

00:29:27.360 as, you know, Clara Peller

00:29:29.260 used to say in the Wendy's

00:29:30.840 heads, Sheila, where's the

00:29:33.960 beef?

00:29:36.260 You and your obscure

00:29:38.060 pop culture references.

00:29:40.340 David, honestly.

00:29:44.520 If you got to know me, Sheila,

00:29:46.820 you will find out that I am a

00:29:48.700 I know you, David.

00:29:50.600 a vast reservoir of

00:29:52.420 completely useless, trivial

00:29:54.500 information, but I'm still

00:29:56.580 going to spout it wherever I

00:29:57.840 can.

00:29:58.080 So moving on,

00:30:01.300 what do you think,

00:30:02.900 you know, Scheer, I know

00:30:05.260 Ezra has said that over the

00:30:07.620 next year and a bit, you

00:30:09.660 know, our job may be at the

00:30:10.880 rebel is to bring Scheer more

00:30:13.040 over to being a true

00:30:14.260 conservative, more right of

00:30:15.620 center.

00:30:16.800 Is it possible that we have

00:30:19.240 enough time to fix Humpty

00:30:21.420 Dumpty or are we already

00:30:23.380 looking ahead for 2023?

00:30:25.460 Maybe that's when things are

00:30:27.240 going to change.

00:30:28.780 You know, I was giving

00:30:31.240 some thought to this yesterday

00:30:32.880 and I think we have a really

00:30:34.080 good example of this

00:30:35.700 in B.C.

00:30:38.200 Andrew Weaver, the Green

00:30:40.360 Party leader, actually holds

00:30:42.420 the balance of power

00:30:43.840 because for the NDP to

00:30:45.660 maintain their

00:30:46.560 government, they need the

00:30:49.320 support of Andrew Weaver of

00:30:50.860 the Green Party.

00:30:51.520 So if, and basically, he

00:30:55.420 sets the agenda now for the

00:30:57.180 entire NDP party because they

00:30:59.100 need him to keep the coalition

00:31:00.500 together.

00:31:01.420 So, I mean, is that something

00:31:02.860 that Bernier is looking to do?

00:31:04.980 I mean, if you can't force the

00:31:06.520 conservatives to the right

00:31:07.840 from the inside, do you go

00:31:09.820 outside and be a kingmaker and

00:31:11.780 maybe hold the balance of power

00:31:13.120 in a minority government?

00:31:14.920 I don't know if he has that kind

00:31:16.340 of support yet, but the election

00:31:17.740 is, you know, a year and a bit

00:31:19.120 off.

00:31:20.080 I just wonder, first of all,

00:31:22.580 if Bernier will even have a

00:31:25.020 candidate in every riding, A,

00:31:26.960 and B, I wonder about the

00:31:29.700 caliber of those candidates.

00:31:32.640 And also, you know, Sheila,

00:31:34.760 typically, you know, in politics,

00:31:37.020 a startup protest party, it

00:31:41.040 typically goes nowhere.

00:31:42.720 So that's my fear.

00:31:44.380 But, you know, maybe you're

00:31:46.800 right.

00:31:47.180 I also think that, I think

00:31:49.480 Bernier made a strategic error

00:31:51.180 by resigning.

00:31:52.540 Maybe he could be more

00:31:53.960 effective in acting change

00:31:55.940 within the party.

00:31:56.860 What do you think about that?

00:31:59.740 That's, I agree with Bernier's

00:32:03.960 assessment of the party,

00:32:05.220 especially after having gone to

00:32:08.440 that convention.

00:32:09.340 Yes.

00:32:09.520 I do disagree with his

00:32:11.060 conclusions.

00:32:12.020 I disagree with his resolutions

00:32:13.340 to the problem.

00:32:14.980 And I'll tell you why.

00:32:16.380 Because in Alberta, we wandered

00:32:18.280 in the wilderness as

00:32:19.400 conservatives for 10 years.

00:32:22.900 We let the Redford Tories run

00:32:26.100 rampant because we took our

00:32:27.360 ball and we went over to the

00:32:28.620 Wild Rose Party.

00:32:30.580 And because of that, then we

00:32:32.620 had a vote split on the right,

00:32:34.100 which allowed the NDP to come

00:32:35.400 up the middle.

00:32:35.920 And now I'm living through the

00:32:36.940 tyranny of Rachel Notley.

00:32:38.840 So I know the damage that a

00:32:40.960 vote split can do.

00:32:41.900 And I can, I know the, the way

00:32:44.140 that it can create these

00:32:45.700 incredible unlikelihoods that we

00:32:47.780 never would have thought could

00:32:49.300 happen here in Alberta.

00:32:50.620 So, you know, I, I'm like you.

00:32:54.400 I, I don't disagree with anything

00:32:57.380 Bernier says about the party.

00:32:59.080 I just wish that he had stayed in

00:33:02.320 there, was grinding it out for

00:33:04.980 change.

00:33:05.400 And if Scheer had to get rid of

00:33:07.760 him, then let Scheer be the bad

00:33:09.320 guy.

00:33:10.340 Yeah, I agree.

00:33:11.260 And so far, unfortunately, Scheer

00:33:13.420 is being the bad guy.

00:33:15.240 Now, I've enjoyed our discussion

00:33:17.500 so much with you, Sheila.

00:33:18.460 I had hardly any chance to look at

00:33:20.780 some of the viewers and what some

00:33:22.260 of their chats have been.

00:33:24.380 Are you getting the viewer chats

00:33:25.980 on your side?

00:33:27.460 I am.

00:33:28.240 And that sort of means that you

00:33:30.200 want me to read them because I've

00:33:31.860 seen you.

00:33:32.560 The reason I'm here, David, is

00:33:34.760 because I've seen you try to read

00:33:37.440 these and it is like, you know, I

00:33:39.100 love my mother-in-law to death, but

00:33:41.120 when I'm watching her try to scroll

00:33:43.300 through her Facebook feed on her

00:33:45.500 phone and she is squinting and

00:33:47.560 squinting and she doesn't really,

00:33:48.920 she's not reading anything.

00:33:50.160 She wants to read stuff, but she

00:33:51.880 can't see it.

00:33:53.020 That's you.

00:33:53.720 And I think for my sake and for the

00:33:55.260 viewer's sake, I'm going to do

00:33:56.480 that.

00:33:56.720 Well, folks, I have to confess, I'm a

00:33:59.400 big enough man to admit this.

00:34:00.900 Some people say, why is a

00:34:03.220 battleground not a daily anymore?

00:34:05.300 Why is it a weekly?

00:34:06.900 The fact of the matter is, according

00:34:09.160 to Mr. Producer, number one, number

00:34:10.880 two, when I co-hosted those four days

00:34:13.240 in a row, I killed battleground.

00:34:15.840 I killed it.

00:34:16.520 Yes.

00:34:17.520 Battleground fell in battle to me and

00:34:20.020 it became a weekly.

00:34:21.600 And and and please, I'm trying to

00:34:23.400 make the weekly a success.

00:34:25.080 I don't want to be the guy known as

00:34:26.660 killing the weekly battleground, too.

00:34:28.480 So so Sheila is right.

00:34:30.040 So when it comes to the technical

00:34:31.680 aspects, I'm going to let the lady 1.00

00:34:34.200 take over the show and read some of

00:34:36.100 the more notable messages.

00:34:39.300 There you go, Sheila.

00:34:40.700 OK, so Patrick Max has a comment for

00:34:44.340 me.

00:34:45.040 He put it all in capital.

00:34:46.120 So I know that he means that he would

00:34:48.980 like for me to develop a tan.

00:34:52.140 And no, because I don't want to look

00:34:54.620 like an old rawhide chew toy when I'm

00:34:56.780 45, I don't want to look like a pig's

00:34:58.540 ear.

00:34:59.460 So I'm not going to get a tan.

00:35:01.540 Sorry.

00:35:02.240 But you know what, Sheila, if you if

00:35:04.040 you are going to get a tan, go all in,

00:35:06.780 become the next tan mum. 0.99

00:35:08.580 Remember that the she's now a 1.00

00:35:10.620 whack packer on the Howard Stern show.

00:35:13.120 This is a woman. 0.86

00:35:14.340 If you aren't familiar, folks, who tan

00:35:16.440 mum is, Google the words tan mum.

00:35:18.960 And basically she has overdone tanning 0.92

00:35:22.560 to an extent that her face basically

00:35:25.200 looks like a catcher's mitt now.

00:35:27.460 But this is her now her ticket to ride.

00:35:30.040 This is her notoriety.

00:35:31.920 So please, Sheila, if you are going to

00:35:34.080 tan your lovely skin, go go all in. 1.00

00:35:37.280 Go go super dark.

00:35:41.040 Hey, we have a super chat.

00:35:42.900 We have a super chat.

00:35:44.500 Yes.

00:35:45.500 It's from Fraser McBurney.

00:35:48.420 I love when the people use the real

00:35:50.160 names and not those crazy Internet names.

00:35:52.200 Anyway, it says fact with chipmunk

00:35:54.640 sheer leading the Conservatives.

00:35:56.560 They have a snowball's chance in hell

00:35:58.180 of winning the next election.

00:36:00.600 I'm inclined to believe with you,

00:36:02.720 Fraser.

00:36:04.440 It's he's not motivating anybody to

00:36:08.480 race to the polls to support him.

00:36:10.200 Now, is he?

00:36:11.020 You know, when he says chipmunk

00:36:12.840 sheer, I wonder if that'll stick.

00:36:16.100 And here's the thing, Sheila, you

00:36:17.440 know, once a politician in power

00:36:20.480 or one who's aspiring to power

00:36:22.360 starts to acquire a negative

00:36:25.760 or a comical nickname in my books,

00:36:28.000 it's over.

00:36:28.600 For example, Paul Martin,

00:36:30.200 he became known when he was

00:36:32.260 prime minister as Mr.

00:36:34.060 Dithers because he could never make 1.00

00:36:35.880 a firm decision.

00:36:36.780 I'll never forget.

00:36:37.820 It was around.

00:36:38.520 It was in December.

00:36:39.440 He was coming out of a story.

00:36:40.480 He had a Christmas wreath.

00:36:42.620 And a reporter playfully asked him,

00:36:44.920 you know, Mr. Martin, is that a

00:36:47.320 Christmas wreath or a holiday wreath?

00:36:49.960 And he looked at the camera like

00:36:52.480 Bambi staring a Hummer with its 0.97

00:36:55.360 high beams on and came up with the

00:36:58.040 answer.

00:36:58.700 It's a $50 wreath.

00:37:00.160 I mean, he couldn't even answer that

00:37:01.420 question.

00:37:01.940 And likewise, the nickname I see

00:37:04.300 people using with Andrew Scheer is

00:37:06.640 Mr. Charisma.

00:37:08.260 It's facetious, of course.

00:37:10.260 Right.

00:37:10.560 You know, once people are calling you

00:37:13.420 Mr. Charisma in a sarcastic and

00:37:16.480 sardonic way, that's not good.

00:37:20.280 Yeah, he's a milkmaid.

00:37:21.780 And I think we should try to make that

00:37:23.200 one stick to him.

00:37:24.960 Another, you know, another good

00:37:26.680 nickname, and I didn't even intend for

00:37:29.480 it to turn into a nickname, was

00:37:30.820 Climate Barbie.

00:37:33.200 And I did a really, I sort of said it

00:37:35.500 offhand.

00:37:35.560 Offhand, we were hosting a Canadian 1.00

00:37:39.280 premiere for Mark Morano's movie

00:37:41.580 Climate Hustle.

00:37:42.620 And we were in Edmonton, and we were

00:37:44.580 sort of revealing the fact that I was

00:37:46.420 going to go to the UN Climate Change

00:37:48.360 Conference, and I said that I was going

00:37:49.680 to go there to hold Climate Barbie to

00:37:51.880 account.

00:37:52.780 And everybody laughed.

00:37:53.920 And then it just sort of stuck, because

00:37:56.180 it is so accurate.

00:37:57.840 And the more she talks, the more she is

00:37:59.600 Climate Barbie.

00:38:00.640 Well, you know, and it's funny, a good

00:38:03.180 segue into another story that's really

00:38:05.920 going viral.

00:38:08.480 It's certainly the talk of the town in

00:38:10.060 Toronto.

00:38:11.280 From little Barbie dolls to real life

00:38:14.340 giant Barbie dolls, what was in the

00:38:16.180 news recently, Sheila, if you can

00:38:18.340 imagine, next week there was supposed

00:38:20.740 to be a so-called brothel opening in the 0.96

00:38:24.600 Young Shepherd area of Toronto, North

00:38:27.500 Toronto, that is.

00:38:28.780 And basically what the difference is,

00:38:30.780 folks, is that you wouldn't meet a real

00:38:35.340 live female prostitute, but you would 1.00

00:38:37.600 have a doll made out of 100% silicone.

00:38:43.680 And I think I got the rate chart here,

00:38:46.780 $80 for a half hour, $120 for an hour if

00:38:49.640 you want to, a duo, that's $240.

00:38:52.720 And people were just going crazy.

00:38:56.080 And the way this story has developed,

00:39:00.100 first of all, Sheila, you know, there's

00:39:02.580 a funny quote by the local councillor,

00:39:04.720 John Fillion, who was saying that many

00:39:07.540 parents were coming up to him and saying,

00:39:09.920 we're trying to explain this to our

00:39:13.580 kids, to which I had to say, explain it

00:39:16.820 to me, right?

00:39:17.940 I mean, what kind of a man is going to a

00:39:21.860 strip plaza, going into a room for half

00:39:24.580 an hour, paying $80 and being with a

00:39:27.900 a doll.

00:39:30.540 And I just, you know, there's so many

00:39:33.460 angles to take this.

00:39:34.600 But I wonder, you know, Sheila, it comes

00:39:37.420 down to this.

00:39:38.180 Is this maybe a good thing for those men

00:39:41.340 who are completely socially awkward?

00:39:44.540 They can't form a relationship with a

00:39:46.920 real woman or another person?

00:39:49.200 Or is there maybe a dark side to this

00:39:52.480 that maybe these are people that, you

00:39:55.580 know, have deviant behavior, like they

00:39:57.940 like to get physically violent, which, of

00:40:00.060 course, would be illegal with a real

00:40:01.400 woman, but with a doll, you can slap it 1.00

00:40:03.640 around.

00:40:04.000 What's your take on this?

00:40:06.280 Well, first off, this is why the aliens

00:40:07.980 won't visit us.

00:40:08.940 Second off, what do you mean?

00:40:13.320 Could there maybe be a dark side to this?

00:40:15.400 This is all dark, all dark.

00:40:17.840 This is darkness.

00:40:21.000 The these, you know, like you say, like

00:40:23.300 maybe this is for people who don't have

00:40:25.080 social skills.

00:40:26.180 Well, this is stopping them from

00:40:27.700 developing marketable social skills to

00:40:30.000 the opposite sex. 0.71

00:40:31.160 You know, like if you're bad at talking

00:40:33.680 to girls and you you don't have a lot

00:40:36.280 of charisma, maybe you just like to drink

00:40:38.720 milk and talk about supply management.

00:40:41.240 Um, you know, um, you're not learning

00:40:45.880 anything like the only way you learn to

00:40:48.100 be good at talking to girls is get out 1.00

00:40:50.160 there and talk to them.

00:40:51.100 And, you know, if they turn you down

00:40:53.060 because you're weird, maybe you'll be a

00:40:54.360 little less weird next time.

00:40:55.600 But this actually stops people from

00:40:57.240 developing social skills.

00:40:58.520 And this is the natural progression from

00:41:02.460 people who, you know, this is a society

00:41:05.420 that sits, we communicate to each other

00:41:08.260 over our phones and over our computers.

00:41:10.220 And I'm saying this as I'm literally

00:41:11.880 communicating to all of our viewers

00:41:14.180 across the computer.

00:41:15.380 But, you know, like we don't have a lot

00:41:17.280 of human interaction anymore or less

00:41:19.040 than what we used to.

00:41:19.960 So we don't have those social skills.

00:41:21.500 So instead of developing them, we take

00:41:23.480 the easy way out and we go do gross

00:41:27.240 things to a piece of plastic.

00:41:29.300 It's terrible.

00:41:30.440 You know, Sheila, you know, the question

00:41:32.260 arises, though, should this be illegal?

00:41:36.240 And I think right now with the laws of the

00:41:38.120 land, this is not illegal.

00:41:40.580 In fact, prostitution in Canada is not

00:41:42.680 illegal.

00:41:43.120 It's the act of solicitation, as I understand

00:41:45.720 it.

00:41:46.020 So Canada's got a real goofy prostitution 0.99

00:41:48.240 law to begin with.

00:41:49.080 It's like you're allowed to be a little

00:41:51.040 bit pregnant by the sounds of it.

00:41:53.080 But I mean, the reason why this doll

00:41:56.900 brothel will not be opening next week in

00:41:59.340 the Young Shepherd area is that the

00:42:01.660 authorities found a way in decades old

00:42:05.260 zoning bylaws to not allow it.

00:42:07.860 So in other words, I don't think they're

00:42:09.100 allowed to be in a residential retail

00:42:11.380 area, but they could open up in an

00:42:14.580 industrial area.

00:42:16.220 Even so, where would you stand on this,

00:42:19.440 you know, in terms of putting on your

00:42:20.960 libertarian hat?

00:42:22.400 If this is something people want to do,

00:42:24.520 spend their money and spend some time in

00:42:26.560 the darkness with a silicone doll, so be

00:42:29.700 it.

00:42:29.900 Or do you think there's some rationale here

00:42:32.460 for the state to step in?

00:42:35.440 No, I mean, if these dolls look like

00:42:37.480 adults, then yeah, I got to put on my

00:42:39.400 libertarian hat and say it's sort of,

00:42:41.520 sort of none of my business.

00:42:43.720 It's not something I agree with.

00:42:45.040 It's not something that I don't, like, I

00:42:48.100 don't want to even know a person who would

00:42:51.200 participate in this.

00:42:52.180 I don't, and if I, I'll cut them right out

00:42:54.320 of my life, like with a knife.

00:42:56.340 But yeah, I don't think it's the

00:42:59.820 government's business.

00:43:00.600 Listen, you and I were talking about this

00:43:02.000 off camera.

00:43:03.080 You said this is, came from Japan, which

00:43:05.640 explains a lot because, and you know, like

00:43:09.600 Japanese viewers don't write in because 0.97

00:43:13.000 you guys know that you have a weirdness

00:43:15.160 about sexuality and writing me angry,

00:43:18.580 writing me angry letters is not going to

00:43:20.480 change that.

00:43:22.480 Yeah, this, it, you know, what I was

00:43:24.480 reading, like an article in the

00:43:25.880 Independent that says, like, young 0.99

00:43:27.780 Japanese people are basically asexual. 0.99

00:43:30.540 They're not into it at all.

00:43:32.580 Like, they don't have that, like,

00:43:34.460 hormonally driven virility that Western

00:43:37.860 young people have.

00:43:38.740 They just, it's dead.

00:43:39.820 It's, nothing's happening.

00:43:41.880 And they sort of like it that way.

00:43:43.460 And, and, uh, so I suppose this was an

00:43:46.460 outlet for them in Japan, but, uh, I would

00:43:49.320 hate the idea that this is going to come

00:43:50.700 here and change how young men and young

00:43:53.360 women interact with each other, but you 1.00

00:43:55.420 know, which actually, sorry that actually

00:43:57.340 I'm going to interrupt you because I just

00:43:58.720 had a thought and I'm going to forget it

00:43:59.840 because you're going to talk about

00:44:00.740 something science fictiony.

00:44:02.080 I know it.

00:44:03.100 Um, but you know, uh, maybe part of this

00:44:08.000 stems from the fact that young men are

00:44:09.540 sort of scared to interact with young

00:44:12.360 women because of this ongoing cry about 1.00

00:44:14.880 rape culture that like any awkward male 1.00

00:44:18.000 heterosexual interaction is harassment or,

00:44:21.780 you know, abuse and it's just not that

00:44:23.680 way.

00:44:24.280 So maybe this is like protection.

00:44:25.980 I never thought of that.

00:44:26.920 There's no way a, um, 120 pound doll made

00:44:30.420 out of pure silicone is going to, uh, uh,

00:44:32.920 have a me to moment because it's an

00:44:35.300 inanimate object.

00:44:36.020 But you said something very interesting,

00:44:38.220 uh, earlier Sheila, when you began, uh,

00:44:41.460 your answer, as long as the doll looks

00:44:44.560 like a adult, uh, human being, as opposed

00:44:47.860 to, I assume, uh, a child.

00:44:50.220 And, but when you, and, and I'm not trying

00:44:52.580 to get too creepy here and it, and it does

00:44:55.980 creep me out, but you know, you could make

00:44:58.380 the point that if it's an inanimate object,

00:45:00.540 it's not, uh, living, it's, it's not a human

00:45:04.220 being, uh, does it matter at all what that

00:45:07.540 thing looks like?

00:45:09.360 Yes.

00:45:10.200 Yes.

00:45:10.660 Actually, I think there's some sort of level

00:45:12.180 of necrophilia in all of this that I don't,

00:45:15.500 I, I, you know what, like it's just laying

00:45:18.300 there, you know, smells better than a dead

00:45:22.180 body, but reacts the same way.

00:45:23.780 I just, I think this is all just weird,

00:45:25.500 but we have a super chat.

00:45:26.880 Oh, fantastic.

00:45:28.480 And this is a super chat.

00:45:29.420 I'm going to take a screenshot of this and

00:45:30.900 send it to the boss, um, because we deserve

00:45:33.360 kudos for this.

00:45:34.100 It says it's from Pete Henderson.

00:45:35.840 He's given us almost 10 bucks Canadian, I

00:45:38.740 suppose.

00:45:39.240 And he says, you two are good.

00:45:41.220 And I will subscribe to the Rebel Premium.

00:45:44.660 We got one, David.

00:45:46.400 Fantastic.

00:45:47.000 You know, I, and, uh, did you say Pete

00:45:49.860 Henderson or Paul Henderson?

00:45:51.720 Pete Henderson.

00:45:52.800 Oh, okay then.

00:45:53.200 Don't be a nerd.

00:45:54.160 Well, as long as you're a Henderson, see, 0.99

00:45:56.060 Henderson's are gold because, you know,

00:45:58.100 it was, it was Paul Henderson that scored

00:46:00.140 the, the winning goal at the Summit Series in

00:46:01.920 1972, as you know, Sheila, and Pete

00:46:04.640 Henderson giving us these kudos.

00:46:06.540 The Henderson's top notch.

00:46:08.680 Love them.

00:46:09.020 Um, and, um, and by the way, uh, I'll

00:46:11.980 tell you, I think this is, uh, before we

00:46:14.680 put to bed, uh, no pun intended, the, uh,

00:46:17.260 Aura Dolls story.

00:46:18.760 I think the most disturbing thing was the

00:46:21.320 official statement that came from the

00:46:23.860 doll brothel, which is this, and I'll read

00:46:26.180 it verbatim to you, Sheila.

00:46:27.980 The dolls are thoroughly sanitized to meet

00:46:31.240 your expectations.

00:46:33.040 We take extreme measures when it comes to

00:46:36.240 the safety of our clients.

00:46:38.160 The use of condoms are highly recommended.

00:46:43.300 Anyways, I don't know where to go with

00:46:44.880 that.

00:46:45.280 I just wonder who's got the job of

00:46:47.820 sanitizing the dolls after these visits.

00:46:52.600 David, I'm dry heaving.

00:46:54.460 I'm dry heaving.

00:46:55.740 You have to stop.

00:46:56.380 I have that effect on so many women. 1.00

00:46:58.220 You would, you'd be surprised.

00:47:00.120 Right.

00:47:00.560 But, um, uh, that, uh, so anyways, we

00:47:04.420 will, we will keep an eye on this story

00:47:06.140 because, um, uh, we'll see.

00:47:08.020 We won't, we won't, we won't, you can, uh, we

00:47:11.180 won't.

00:47:11.720 Well, Mr. Producer number two is also, uh,

00:47:14.540 nodding his head negatively through the

00:47:16.000 window.

00:47:16.380 We are not going to add Mr. Producer number

00:47:18.480 one by the looks of it.

00:47:19.400 So I think it's a consensus folks.

00:47:21.520 We will drop this story.

00:47:22.740 Even if they relocate in an industrial park,

00:47:25.280 uh, somewhere in Markham or Woodbridge, uh, we

00:47:28.180 are not going to talk more about this, um,

00:47:30.200 or a doll story because obviously it's

00:47:32.840 creeping too many reasonable minded people

00:47:36.860 out.

00:47:37.700 So there you go.

00:47:39.000 Do you have some other chats that you'd

00:47:40.420 like to read, Sheila?

00:47:42.140 Um, let's see.

00:47:43.500 Okay.

00:47:43.740 People are, uh, let's see.

00:47:48.340 Well, yeah, people are concerned that we

00:47:50.240 got off on a bit of a side road there.

00:47:53.600 Oh boy.

00:47:54.720 David Rogers says, introducing the new

00:47:57.720 Sheila doll.

00:47:58.380 Well, the Sheila doll would, um, feed the

00:48:02.560 chickens and yell at her kids in Costco. 0.93

00:48:07.620 You know what?

00:48:08.460 You know, it's not as.

00:48:09.820 I bet you we'd sell a lot of Sheila dolls. 1.00

00:48:12.440 Um, you know, I, I did a commentary, um,

00:48:14.860 a month ago.

00:48:15.780 No, not guys.

00:48:17.220 Not that, not, not that kind of doll.

00:48:19.180 I mean, uh, like a, uh, uh, like a, uh,

00:48:21.780 the toy doll, right?

00:48:24.040 Like the Justin Trudeau doll I talked about.

00:48:26.960 Not that kind of doll.

00:48:28.660 You know, I'm saying, you know, Sheila, uh,

00:48:30.860 Like a bobblehead where I nod disapprovingly

00:48:33.960 at you every time you open your mouth.

00:48:36.260 Exactly.

00:48:36.400 Like a bobblehead.

00:48:37.140 We have the Ezra bobblehead.

00:48:38.740 We have from the Bradford Exchange,

00:48:40.780 the Justin Trudeau, um, 38 centimeter tall

00:48:44.300 doll that, uh, I did a, which, which

00:48:46.280 talks actually.

00:48:47.200 It has a collection of his quotes.

00:48:48.860 The lamest quotes you could ever imagine,

00:48:52.580 you know, so that, that kind of doll.

00:48:54.400 I don't, I don't want to give anyone

00:48:55.460 the wrong impression.

00:48:56.220 We are not going to make a 120 pound

00:48:58.600 silicone doll in the, uh, in the form

00:49:01.560 of Sheila Gunn-Reed ever.

00:49:03.300 And I said it.

00:49:04.540 Okay.

00:49:05.320 Carry on, Sheila.

00:49:07.880 Do I still have a job here?

00:49:10.120 No.

00:49:10.740 And you don't have a friendship with me either.

00:49:13.160 We're done.

00:49:13.720 So, and so Sheila, did you say you have

00:49:19.000 another chat there?

00:49:20.620 Uh, sure.

00:49:21.240 Let's get another chat.

00:49:22.220 Okay.

00:49:22.640 Uh, okay.

00:49:23.880 Well, here's one to make up for things

00:49:25.220 from Milo McDonald, Sheila looking gorgeous.

00:49:28.360 There you go.

00:49:28.900 Does that put me, does that put me in your

00:49:30.680 good books again, Sheila?

00:49:32.440 Well, Amanda Joy's got a heck of an idea for me.

00:49:35.460 Um, and I'm crafty.

00:49:37.240 So this is sort of right up my alley.

00:49:38.760 I'm a crafter and a sewer.

00:49:40.220 So it says, how about voodoo doll of David?

00:49:43.160 So you can stick pins in him.

00:49:44.780 David, if your back is sore later,

00:49:46.780 I got out the sewing machine.

00:49:49.560 Well, you know what?

00:49:50.280 Um, I guess I have to, what do I,

00:49:52.360 do I have to, um, cut off a lock of my hair

00:49:54.580 and send it to you?

00:49:55.860 You need something from the actual human

00:49:58.420 to make a real voodoo doll. 0.99

00:49:59.900 Is there any experts on voodoo dolls

00:50:01.520 that could weigh in and, and, uh,

00:50:03.760 give Sheila some direction to make a voodoo doll 1.00

00:50:06.260 out of me and see if it works?

00:50:10.640 Oh, and by the way, folks,

00:50:11.840 if you think I'm creepy,

00:50:13.720 Sheila opened up to me on the Israel trip

00:50:16.100 that the rebel conducted last month.

00:50:17.940 And I'll tell you, she admitted to me

00:50:20.000 she was hand knitting,

00:50:22.380 and this is a great skill,

00:50:23.980 hand knitting, um,

00:50:25.420 was it toks, Sheila,

00:50:26.620 for the, the brony community?

00:50:29.180 Yeah.

00:50:29.460 Because the bronies will pay. 1.00

00:50:32.040 And the bronies, folks,

00:50:33.460 in case that's a new term for you,

00:50:34.880 these are predominantly adult males

00:50:37.560 that are fans of a cartoon, uh,

00:50:41.320 targeted at the three to six girl demographic

00:50:44.380 called My Little Pony, Friendship is Magic.

00:50:47.340 And they actually have an annual convention

00:50:49.280 every year in Baltimore.

00:50:50.720 They had, I think, 12,000 people, uh,

00:50:53.480 earlier this month to attend.

00:50:55.080 Um, and, uh, so,

00:50:57.180 Sheila is part of that community,

00:51:00.500 shall we say?

00:51:00.960 I'm not, David!

00:51:02.600 And is profiting from it.

00:51:06.240 I profited from it,

00:51:08.760 but I'm not currently profiting from it.

00:51:11.720 Yes, I crochet.

00:51:13.780 I crochet very well.

00:51:15.060 Actually, I'm one of those traditional women

00:51:17.300 who is really good at the domestic skills.

00:51:20.320 And, uh, I was approached by someone

00:51:22.800 in the brony community,

00:51:24.980 and they said, hey,

00:51:26.740 can you make me this?

00:51:28.700 And I can.

00:51:29.940 So I did.

00:51:30.640 And then I became the exclusive brony hat supplier

00:51:33.180 to the greater Edmonton area,

00:51:34.800 which is an interesting story

00:51:36.180 that I didn't want you to tell anybody.

00:51:38.480 Well, now that the cat's out of the bag,

00:51:40.560 uh, what are the bronies like, Sheila?

00:51:43.780 Uh, you know what?

00:51:44.760 I couldn't pick one out of a crowd.

00:51:46.240 Like, that's the weird thing.

00:51:47.760 Huh.

00:51:47.980 Uh, they seem, uh, pretty normal.

00:51:50.440 Um, they're just like bronies after dark.

00:51:52.920 Are there any...

00:51:53.540 They could be you.

00:51:54.340 It could be you.

00:51:55.700 It's definitely not me.

00:51:56.960 I would love to hear people,

00:51:58.820 if there are any bronies watching,

00:52:00.280 uh, to, um, you know,

00:52:02.620 give us a few lines,

00:52:03.660 tell us what the community's all about.

00:52:05.940 You see, here's the thing, Sheila.

00:52:07.060 Uh, to me, this is so bizarre,

00:52:09.680 so disturbing,

00:52:10.400 that there are adult males

00:52:12.200 that are into this little girl cartoon

00:52:15.040 to the point that they're buying

00:52:16.080 thousands of dollars worth of merchandise

00:52:17.560 and going to annual conventions

00:52:18.980 that people say to me,

00:52:21.260 Menzoid, uh, uh, you know,

00:52:23.140 you talk a lot of, you know,

00:52:24.660 you know what about the bronies.

00:52:26.180 Have you ever actually watched

00:52:27.720 My Little Pony?

00:52:28.560 And, Sheila, the answer is no.

00:52:30.440 And I'll tell you why the answer is no.

00:52:32.100 It's not that I'm too lazy to do research.

00:52:34.520 It's just that I'm scared to death

00:52:36.460 I might like it

00:52:37.560 and become a brony, too.

00:52:39.580 So, that's why I've never seen

00:52:41.700 My Little Pony Friendship is Magic.

00:52:43.580 Yeah, but it's really not that far off

00:52:46.820 for you, David.

00:52:47.860 Like, you like all these weird

00:52:49.520 pop culture things.

00:52:50.940 And I don't even,

00:52:51.500 I'm not even going to say they're pop culture

00:52:53.180 because they're really not from,

00:52:54.680 like, this century.

00:52:56.520 Like, every time I send you an email,

00:52:58.120 it's always some weird, uh, science fiction

00:53:01.720 or comic book reference

00:53:03.360 that no normal person will understand.

00:53:06.080 You are, um, you're a brony

00:53:08.740 waiting for a place to happen.

00:53:10.140 You just don't like purple, I don't think.

00:53:11.920 No, it's just that, um, you know,

00:53:15.160 I guess I see things with this other sense.

00:53:18.340 I mean, Lady Menzoid bought a Mitsubishi 0.97

00:53:20.860 and I couldn't help but notice

00:53:23.240 that the logo for Mitsubishi Motors

00:53:26.700 looks almost identical

00:53:29.220 to the insignia of the Klingon Empire.

00:53:31.760 So, I bought her a little keychain

00:53:34.120 with the Klingon Empire insignia on it.

00:53:37.200 And, um, I think that was a very, uh,

00:53:39.640 sweet thing for me to do.

00:53:40.780 And I asked you to Google

00:53:42.000 the Mitsubishi logo

00:53:43.160 and the Klingon insignia

00:53:44.380 and I don't think you ever bothered

00:53:45.780 to do so, did you?

00:53:47.640 No, because I didn't have time

00:53:49.580 to Google the, uh, Klingon Empire symbol

00:53:51.780 because I was too busy

00:53:52.820 saying a rosary for your wife

00:53:55.720 because, um, that woman is a saint. 0.98

00:53:58.960 I love her.

00:53:59.940 She's a saint.

00:54:00.960 Um, she really took one for the team

00:54:02.720 when she took you off the market.

00:54:03.920 Oh, well, we'll have to pass that on.

00:54:07.540 Now, Sheila, I see that it's the,

00:54:09.260 it's the two minute warning

00:54:10.680 as they would say in the NFL

00:54:12.560 in the fourth quarter.

00:54:13.800 So, do you want to throw a few, uh,

00:54:15.980 oh, I think we got a super chat

00:54:17.460 if you want to, uh, throw it out there.

00:54:19.300 Sure.

00:54:20.300 It's from ChrisIT86

00:54:22.760 and I think I know him from Twitter.

00:54:25.260 He's a great guy.

00:54:26.040 Um, big fan of, um, at least me.

00:54:29.480 I don't know about you, David,

00:54:30.600 but he says, vote Faith Goldie for mayor. 0.97

00:54:34.700 Um, Faith, um, I wish her nothing but the best.

00:54:38.800 And, uh, uh, you know, I, I, uh,

00:54:41.440 I have great affection for Faith

00:54:43.040 and I hope, um, that, uh,

00:54:45.480 everything in her life

00:54:46.600 becomes exactly what she wants it.

00:54:49.320 Um, and by the way,

00:54:50.800 I should mention, Sheila,

00:54:52.460 that Faith was in the news actually,

00:54:54.340 uh, a day or two ago.

00:54:56.040 Uh, she was canvassing in Toronto

00:54:58.020 and, um, I think all the hardcore Faith haters

00:55:02.220 were really trying to make this a,

00:55:03.640 a much bigger story than it actually was.

00:55:05.740 There were some members of the, uh,

00:55:07.360 Toronto police that posed, uh,

00:55:09.440 for pictures with Faith

00:55:10.520 and, um, you know, people were screaming,

00:55:13.320 oh, these cops should be reprimanded,

00:55:14.980 they should be suspended.

00:55:15.980 The fact of the matter is,

00:55:17.600 is that, um, people, you know,

00:55:20.380 when you're out in public,

00:55:21.280 uh, when you're running for office

00:55:23.080 and this applies to all politicians

00:55:25.240 of all political stripes,

00:55:26.700 when you're in a crowd,

00:55:27.900 you never know who it is

00:55:29.220 that comes out of a crowd,

00:55:30.680 stands beside you,

00:55:31.500 and a picture is taken.

00:55:32.760 So I, I just thought this was, um,

00:55:34.740 a really unnecessary smear job

00:55:36.620 by, uh, you know,

00:55:37.840 her hardcore haters.

00:55:39.020 I'll say that.

00:55:39.700 Well, you know what, David,

00:55:42.360 I got to tell you,

00:55:43.140 I think we redeemed ourselves,

00:55:45.140 or not we,

00:55:46.340 but you redeemed yourselves

00:55:48.060 when you brought in the ringer here

00:55:49.980 to save the show

00:55:51.020 because happy infidel Fox 1.00

00:55:53.520 says David and Sheila

00:55:55.240 have great chemistry.

00:55:58.640 And, um,

00:56:01.560 Amanda Joyce said, 0.94

00:56:03.080 sorry, go ahead.

00:56:03.700 Oh, I want to thank him for that.

00:56:04.820 In fact, that's inspired me

00:56:06.340 in the spirit of bronyism

00:56:08.660 to write my own screenplay

00:56:10.660 for an animated series.

00:56:12.380 And it will be called this,

00:56:13.920 My Little Sheila,

00:56:15.300 Friendship is Magic.

00:56:16.740 What do you think about that?

00:56:17.700 Oh, my Lord.

00:56:19.240 You know what?

00:56:20.040 Mr. Producer just yelled

00:56:21.400 in my ear,

00:56:22.000 time's off.

00:56:23.980 Cut.

00:56:24.860 We're done.

00:56:25.900 Well, folks,

00:56:26.740 I hope you enjoyed that.

00:56:28.660 I, I,

00:56:29.020 we talked about all kinds of things,

00:56:30.840 the Kinder Morgan

00:56:32.520 and Supply Management

00:56:33.900 and the Conservative Party of Canada

00:56:35.500 and the Aura Dolls

00:56:37.420 and the brony community.

00:56:40.540 And, uh,

00:56:41.380 listen,

00:56:42.400 it's the last day of August.

00:56:43.780 Uh, uh,

00:56:45.000 unofficially summer ends

00:56:46.580 on, uh, Tuesday.

00:56:48.140 Uh, so, listen,

00:56:49.280 I, I hope all of you

00:56:50.940 go out and have a really fun,

00:56:54.300 safe time on this Labor Day weekend.

00:56:56.720 And, uh,

00:56:57.720 last word over

00:56:58.580 to Sheila Gunn-Reed,

00:56:59.740 who did a fantastic job

00:57:01.000 as co-host today.

00:57:02.160 What do you say, Sheila?

00:57:03.900 I want to wish

00:57:04.820 all the farmers out there

00:57:06.300 a very happy,

00:57:08.100 fruitful harvest.

00:57:09.060 And remember,

00:57:09.900 don't let the government

00:57:10.680 tell you that you've had

00:57:11.660 too much to think.

00:57:13.360 Fantastic.

00:57:14.240 Thanks so much, everybody.

00:57:15.720 Have a great weekend.

Rebel News Podcast - August 31, 2018

LIVE with David Menzies & Sheila Gunn Reid! Trump vs. Trudeau on Trade!

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