Rebel News Podcast - July 07, 2018


“Male feminist Justin Trudeau is just as handsy as Bill Clinton was”


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

166.45872

Word Count

7,694

Sentence Count

497

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

Justin Trudeau groped a reporter in the town of Creston, British Columbia in 2000. He apologized when he realized that she wasn t just a small town reporter, but also worked for the National Post and the Vancouver Sun. His excuse was that he didn t know that she was important.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Tonight, turns out, male feminist Justin Trudeau is just as handsy as Bill Clinton was.
00:00:06.320 It's July 6th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:14.640 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:18.460 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:22.180 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
00:00:25.160 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:35.960 In the year 2000, when Justin Trudeau was a grown man of 28 years,
00:00:40.240 he groped a female reporter who was trying to interview him when he was in the town of Creston, British Columbia.
00:00:46.040 He groped her. To use her words, he handled her.
00:00:49.940 And he apologized only when he realized that she wasn't just a small-town reporter.
00:00:54.220 She also worked for big newspapers like the National Post.
00:00:58.300 His excuse, his explanation was that, well, he didn't know that she was important.
00:01:04.160 Had he known that she was someone important, or more accurately,
00:01:06.760 someone who could embarrass him by exposing him as a sexual predator,
00:01:10.100 he wouldn't have groped her. He'd have groped someone else, someone less powerful.
00:01:14.160 Now, we know about this because the Creston Advance newspaper wrote about it,
00:01:19.860 likely written by the woman herself.
00:01:21.280 Here it is in the newspaper.
00:01:24.420 Editorial, open eyes.
00:01:26.720 I'm sorry if I had known you were reporting for a national paper.
00:01:29.600 I never would have been so forward.
00:01:32.160 Those were the words that were spoken to an advance reporter by Justin Trudeau,
00:01:36.200 son of former Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, August 4th.
00:01:40.020 Trudeau, who was in Creston to celebrate the Kokanee Summit Festival,
00:01:43.900 put on by the Columbia Brewery, apologized a day late
00:01:46.980 for inappropriately handling the reporter while she was on assignment,
00:01:51.280 not only for the advance, but also for the National Post and Vancouver Sun.
00:01:54.420 If I had known you were reporting for a national paper.
00:01:57.900 It's not a rare incident to have a young reporter,
00:02:00.660 especially a female who was working for a small community newspaper,
00:02:03.620 be considered an underling to their more predominant associates
00:02:06.860 and blatantly disrespected because of it.
00:02:09.240 But shouldn't the son of a former Prime Minister be aware of the rights and wrongs
00:02:13.440 that go along with public socializing?
00:02:15.920 Didn't he learn through his vast experiences in public life
00:02:18.480 that groping a strange young woman isn't in the handbook of proper etiquette,
00:02:23.140 regardless of who she is, what her business is, or where they are?
00:02:26.400 What makes the fact that she was working for the Post of any relevance?
00:02:29.580 Big stories break first in community papers, after all.
00:02:32.460 It may not have been an earth-shattering find,
00:02:34.280 but one thing could have been learned from the experience,
00:02:37.100 like father, like son.
00:02:40.020 So that was the editorial written 18 years ago.
00:02:42.200 Trudeau was 28 years old at the time,
00:02:43.920 which for many people is when they're getting serious about life,
00:02:46.280 starting a family, getting their career going, whatever.
00:02:48.800 But Trudeau was acting like a frat boy.
00:02:51.420 Frat boys are usually in college, so they're usually aged 18, 19, 20.
00:02:56.620 Trudeau was 10 years older than that.
00:02:58.400 There's a picture of him at that Kokanee Festival.
00:03:01.580 He was a frat boy well into his 30s, wouldn't you say?
00:03:04.280 That's a picture of him in Crest,
00:03:05.720 and I think that's what kids these days call a douche.
00:03:09.280 Just a party bro, super gross, 10 years too old to be doing it.
00:03:13.260 I'm not sure if you can see it, but look at that shirt he's wearing.
00:03:16.500 It's like a dragon shirt, which sort of makes me laugh.
00:03:22.220 And hey, why not?
00:03:23.040 Why not be a party boy, frat boy?
00:03:24.540 I mean, famous last name, multi-million dollar trust fund, pretty face.
00:03:28.120 Nothing earned, everything just came easy,
00:03:29.580 even down to his million dollar supercar inherited by his father.
00:03:34.540 And look at him just sitting on there like a douche.
00:03:37.980 He partied like that deep into his 30s,
00:03:40.000 and even after he was elected as an MP, he continued to party.
00:03:43.580 He's notorious for skipping work.
00:03:45.400 He's missed 17 personal days so far in 2018.
00:03:49.520 He admits he continued to smoke marijuana even after being elected.
00:03:53.760 His flights, he's taken, what, 56 or 57 foreign trips?
00:03:56.960 He hates work, and when he travels, he's often drunk.
00:04:00.460 I'm sorry, that's not an insult.
00:04:01.860 That's an observation based on the thousands of dollars of liquor
00:04:05.180 that are consumed on his private flights.
00:04:07.500 And sometimes he just doesn't stop drinking, even into meetings.
00:04:11.440 Look at how wobbly he is here, meeting with David Axelrod
00:04:14.200 in this Chicago meeting earlier this year.
00:04:17.360 Look at how many times he wobbles.
00:04:18.480 Thank you so much.
00:04:28.260 Yeah, but the media love him, so they ignore it.
00:04:34.960 They turn a blind eye.
00:04:37.120 Except this Creston groping incident, it's pretty specific.
00:04:41.200 He didn't just say suggestive words to the young reporter.
00:04:44.220 He handled her.
00:04:45.640 He groped her.
00:04:46.600 What did he do?
00:04:47.900 Where did he touch her?
00:04:48.760 What are the details?
00:04:50.340 And the fact that he felt compelled to apologize,
00:04:52.460 that not only suggests the gravity of the situation,
00:04:54.940 but importantly, it shows that he acknowledged
00:04:57.060 that he did these things.
00:04:58.760 There's no he said, she said.
00:05:00.740 He agrees it happened.
00:05:02.340 And now he's just trying to cover it up with a
00:05:04.240 sorry I didn't know who you were, non-apology.
00:05:07.140 Actually, that was his non-apology back then.
00:05:09.740 Now, well, I'll get into what he's saying now.
00:05:12.340 That's the kind of thing that would sink another politician,
00:05:14.480 don't you think?
00:05:15.020 Even another liberal.
00:05:15.820 In fact, Trudeau himself has fired a number of liberal MPs
00:05:19.920 from his caucus for much less,
00:05:23.040 including MPs who had consensual affairs,
00:05:26.780 MPs who never really got to learn the details
00:05:28.520 of the accusations against them.
00:05:29.940 Trudeau was clear.
00:05:31.220 You just have to accept the word of the accused.
00:05:33.780 Obviously, as I've said many times throughout this week,
00:05:37.640 it's really important to believe and support any woman who comes forward with allegations
00:05:43.600 of sexual harassment or sexual assault.
00:05:46.280 And that's exactly what my government and myself, we do.
00:05:50.380 I don't need to remind anyone of the positions I've taken from the very beginning of my leadership
00:05:57.240 on issues surrounding this.
00:05:59.420 I am unequivocal in my support for women who step forward with allegations of this nature.
00:06:06.640 And that continues.
00:06:08.740 Yeah.
00:06:08.940 So what about Trudeau himself?
00:06:10.420 It's not even just an accusation.
00:06:12.900 It's an accusation that he accepted as valid,
00:06:15.340 valid enough to acknowledge and semi-apologize,
00:06:18.180 except not now, right?
00:06:19.600 I mean, at first, Trudeau thought he could just slough this off as usual.
00:06:23.540 His aide, Matt Pescuso, made this statement a month ago,
00:06:27.120 and it was good enough for the CBC.
00:06:28.360 As the PM has said before,
00:06:30.500 he has always been very careful to treat everyone with respect.
00:06:33.260 His first experiences with activism were on the issue of sexual assault at McGill,
00:06:37.060 and he knows the importance of being thoughtful and respectful.
00:06:39.500 He remembers being in Creston for the Avalanche Foundation,
00:06:42.900 but doesn't think he had any negative interactions there, unquote.
00:06:48.400 That last part really sounds like Bill Clinton wrote it, doesn't it?
00:06:51.420 The legalistic use of words.
00:06:54.900 I want you to listen to me.
00:06:56.100 I'm going to say this again.
00:06:58.300 I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
00:07:04.160 Yeah, that and negative interactions.
00:07:06.240 Now, that worked for the Canadian Media Party.
00:07:08.200 They're largely owned by Trudeau, as it is.
00:07:10.180 The CBC didn't touch the allegations.
00:07:13.240 All the corporate media looking for handouts didn't touch it.
00:07:17.060 And as if to make a point,
00:07:18.460 Gerald Butts, Trudeau's principal secretary,
00:07:20.220 and Trudeau cabinet ministers began demanding
00:07:22.500 that Twitter literally delete accounts
00:07:25.920 from vocal critics of the Liberal Party.
00:07:28.960 And Twitter complied.
00:07:30.180 That was enough to shut up most Canadian reporters,
00:07:34.160 but not the foreign press.
00:07:35.500 They don't answer to Gerald Butts and Justin Trudeau.
00:07:37.900 Not just conservative media like Fox News or the UK's Daily Mail,
00:07:41.300 but left-wing media abroad like the CNN,
00:07:44.280 the UK State Broadcaster, the BBC,
00:07:46.340 the Washington Post, Time Magazine.
00:07:47.820 I mean, it's not just that Trudeau is a groper in the age of Me Too.
00:07:51.800 It's that Trudeau is such a self-righteous,
00:07:53.800 pompous prat about being a male feminist.
00:07:56.300 It's what he talks about incessantly,
00:07:58.180 especially on the foreign circuit.
00:07:59.980 I mean, he went to the World Economic Forum in Davos,
00:08:02.980 and instead of talking about how he was going to deal with NAFTA
00:08:05.700 or counter America's tax cuts,
00:08:07.700 he gave a speech about feminism,
00:08:10.100 just like he always does.
00:08:12.340 But you need to take as much effort to talk to your sons,
00:08:16.620 my eight-year-old boy and my two-year-old,
00:08:18.440 so a little young still,
00:08:19.540 about how he treats women
00:08:21.180 and how he is going to be growing up
00:08:23.920 to be a feminist just like Dad.
00:08:25.660 How could you, as a reporter,
00:08:27.360 not find this to be a delicious story,
00:08:30.180 the male feminist caught in a grope?
00:08:32.340 So slowly, as the foreign press
00:08:34.000 ate the Canadian Media Party's lunch on this,
00:08:36.100 as they have so many times with Trudeau,
00:08:37.840 a few Canadian reporters summoned the courage
00:08:40.140 to put a question to their precious leader.
00:08:42.220 But it was just stranger and stranger.
00:08:44.140 Here's someone putting a question to Trudeau
00:08:45.880 while Ralph Goodale, the only grown-up in the party,
00:08:48.380 strains to listen.
00:08:49.440 I remember that day in Creston well.
00:08:51.740 It was an Avalanche Foundation event
00:08:55.820 to support Avalanche safety.
00:08:59.140 I had a good day that day.
00:09:01.200 I don't remember any negative interactions that day at all.
00:09:04.280 No negative interactions.
00:09:06.220 He's using that computer line again, eh?
00:09:08.780 At least none that he can remember.
00:09:10.160 Well, then why did he apologize at the time
00:09:14.140 if there was no negative interactions?
00:09:15.880 But the story kept going.
00:09:17.920 And yesterday, Trudeau was asked about it again.
00:09:20.900 And he changed his story again.
00:09:23.820 Not good.
00:09:24.460 Here, take a look.
00:09:25.380 You have had a zero-tolerance policy
00:09:27.660 when it comes to allegations of sexual misconduct
00:09:30.300 within your party.
00:09:31.660 There are serious allegations against you right now.
00:09:34.320 Why not call an independent investigation
00:09:36.220 and put the story to rest?
00:09:37.540 All right, good question.
00:09:38.340 Fair question.
00:09:38.900 Trudeau has had investigations of his other staff and MPs,
00:09:41.740 so why not for himself?
00:09:43.000 Here's the answer.
00:09:43.580 But it's a non-answer.
00:09:45.880 Obviously, this is a situation
00:09:48.840 that has been very much on my mind
00:09:50.360 over the past few weeks.
00:09:52.420 It's a issue that I have been deeply engaged with,
00:09:58.020 not just as a leader,
00:09:59.000 but all my life since my early 20s in university,
00:10:03.260 active on issues around sexual assault and behaviors.
00:10:08.500 Hang on, is that true?
00:10:09.440 Has Justin Trudeau actually done anything
00:10:11.860 about sexual assault in his whole life?
00:10:15.340 I mean, I'm sure he gives little video clips about it,
00:10:17.820 but do you really believe that Justin Trudeau
00:10:20.500 has actually done anything on the file in his life?
00:10:23.560 I'm not talking about foolish little things like this.
00:10:26.400 There's lots of things you can do
00:10:27.680 to be a better feminist as a man,
00:10:29.420 but here's a simple one.
00:10:30.960 Don't interrupt women.
00:10:32.340 I really think that's what Trudeau is thinking about
00:10:34.960 when he says he's been an activist
00:10:36.560 against sexual violence truly.
00:10:39.080 Of course, he doesn't mean it.
00:10:40.800 Maternal love is the love
00:10:42.800 that's going to change the future of mankind.
00:10:46.120 So we'd like you to...
00:10:47.360 We like to say people kind,
00:10:49.080 not necessarily mankind.
00:10:50.940 Anyway, back to his ramble yesterday.
00:10:52.980 I've been reflecting very carefully
00:10:58.340 on what I remember from that incident
00:11:00.780 almost 20 years ago.
00:11:03.620 And again, I am...
00:11:05.980 I feel I am confident
00:11:08.660 that I did not act inappropriately.
00:11:11.700 Well, if you didn't act inappropriately,
00:11:13.440 why did you apologize?
00:11:15.240 The woman in question said she was handled by Trudeau,
00:11:17.620 as in touched, groped, manhandled, people handled,
00:11:20.300 as Trudeau might say.
00:11:21.160 And it wasn't just words like,
00:11:22.760 hey, baby, did I mention
00:11:23.920 Pierre Trudeau was my father and I'm rich?
00:11:26.700 He was handsy, groping, molesting,
00:11:28.960 and he conceded that point in an apology.
00:11:30.920 But look at this classic Trudeau move
00:11:32.800 to blame the rest of us,
00:11:35.080 to scold the rest of us,
00:11:36.340 because he's never wrong personally.
00:11:39.260 But part of this awakening
00:11:41.180 that we're having as a society,
00:11:44.180 a long-awaited realization,
00:11:47.120 is that it's not just
00:11:50.040 one side
00:11:51.720 of the story that matters,
00:11:53.960 that the same interactions
00:11:56.140 could be experienced very differently
00:11:58.040 from one person to the next.
00:12:01.940 And I am not going to speak
00:12:04.380 for the woman in question.
00:12:05.680 I would never presume to speak for her.
00:12:09.140 But I know that
00:12:10.380 there is an awful lot of reflection
00:12:12.480 to be had as we move forward
00:12:14.560 as a society
00:12:15.380 on how people perceive
00:12:17.300 different interactions.
00:12:18.920 Hang on.
00:12:19.220 We, the rest of us,
00:12:20.760 as a society,
00:12:21.740 have to come to terms with things?
00:12:24.080 He said he never presumed
00:12:25.380 to speak for his victim,
00:12:26.400 but then he did.
00:12:27.800 He said she's wrong.
00:12:28.880 It didn't happen that way.
00:12:30.400 Crazy woman's wrong.
00:12:31.760 It never happened.
00:12:32.860 She needs to reflect more.
00:12:33.900 She needs to.
00:12:34.660 Listen.
00:12:34.920 Like I said,
00:12:37.140 I do not feel
00:12:38.360 that I acted inappropriately
00:12:39.980 in any way.
00:12:42.000 But I respect
00:12:43.560 the fact that someone else
00:12:45.620 might have experienced
00:12:46.620 that differently.
00:12:47.460 And this is part of the reflections
00:12:48.940 that we have to go through.
00:12:50.320 That's exactly what
00:12:51.260 most of the other men have said
00:12:52.360 who have been accused
00:12:53.460 of being gropers
00:12:54.640 from Harvey Weinstein
00:12:55.780 to Charlie Rose to Matt Lauer.
00:12:57.300 All of them impeccable liberals too.
00:12:58.760 All very sensitive men.
00:13:00.320 Proud male feminists.
00:13:01.520 But the thing about all of them
00:13:02.620 was they could be fired.
00:13:04.160 All of them,
00:13:05.440 even Harvey Weinstein,
00:13:06.680 as the boss of the Weinstein Company,
00:13:08.620 he could be fired
00:13:09.420 by his board of directors,
00:13:10.960 by his investors.
00:13:13.160 The rest of all the Me Too names
00:13:15.520 worked for massive companies
00:13:17.080 that could be fired
00:13:17.640 because the public saw enough.
00:13:18.840 They were predators.
00:13:20.760 But who can fire a prime minister?
00:13:23.060 His MPs could.
00:13:24.060 Theoretically,
00:13:24.500 in our Canadian system,
00:13:25.860 MPs can fire a prime minister,
00:13:27.220 but they're not going to.
00:13:28.600 They don't want to go
00:13:29.280 into an election
00:13:29.880 wounded by this admission
00:13:32.100 with an unknown,
00:13:33.220 unpopular leader.
00:13:33.960 They're not going to do it.
00:13:35.700 The CBC,
00:13:36.340 the state broadcaster,
00:13:37.340 they're not going to lead the charge.
00:13:38.540 They're owned by Trudeau.
00:13:40.820 Here's the CBC's
00:13:41.800 lead political correspondent
00:13:43.300 taking a lovey-dovey selfie
00:13:44.940 with Justin Trudeau.
00:13:46.240 Yeah,
00:13:46.580 she's not going to lead the charge.
00:13:47.760 She won't get any more
00:13:48.340 selfies like that.
00:13:49.380 Who knows?
00:13:50.340 Maybe he groped her.
00:13:51.280 I wonder where his right hand is there.
00:13:52.760 I don't know.
00:13:53.600 I doubt it.
00:13:54.140 She's not his type.
00:13:57.240 I don't know.
00:13:57.840 Maybe Althea Raj
00:13:58.640 or Paul Wells
00:13:59.460 will lead the charge here.
00:14:00.280 I'm kidding.
00:14:00.980 I'm kidding.
00:14:01.460 Of course they won't.
00:14:02.240 They won't get any more selfies
00:14:03.620 with Trudeau.
00:14:05.660 So who's going to lead the charge?
00:14:06.940 Maybe an independent inquiry.
00:14:08.660 That was the first question
00:14:09.980 asked yesterday, wasn't it?
00:14:11.020 And Trudeau managed to ignore it
00:14:12.500 so far.
00:14:13.660 Hasn't he?
00:14:14.020 Mr. Prime Minister,
00:14:14.760 the question was
00:14:15.460 why not call an independent investigation
00:14:17.180 if there are questions
00:14:19.240 and she says that
00:14:20.180 that you apologized to her.
00:14:23.600 Again, I've been reflecting
00:14:26.040 on the actual interaction
00:14:27.620 and if I apologized later
00:14:31.500 then it would be because
00:14:33.140 I sensed that she was not
00:14:34.680 entirely comfortable
00:14:36.000 with the interaction we had.
00:14:38.440 Oh, hang on.
00:14:39.220 He sensed something was wrong
00:14:40.860 so he apologized
00:14:41.540 but remember he apologized
00:14:43.580 a day later.
00:14:44.580 Remember that's what
00:14:45.080 the editorial said
00:14:45.820 so how did he sense it?
00:14:48.320 How did he find her again?
00:14:49.420 What really happened there?
00:14:50.620 What made him sense things?
00:14:52.080 I think he's lying
00:14:52.880 or hiding things, don't you?
00:14:54.440 But also didn't he tell us
00:14:55.980 there were no negative interactions?
00:14:59.100 So which is it?
00:14:59.800 He sensed things were wrong
00:15:00.880 a negative interaction
00:15:02.120 or there were no negative interactions?
00:15:04.040 Which one of those two alibis is it?
00:15:06.420 But you see what he's doing too.
00:15:07.700 He's switching this from about him
00:15:09.440 to about all of us as society.
00:15:11.620 We are wrong.
00:15:12.540 We need to reflect.
00:15:13.760 And that's all you need to do.
00:15:14.700 Just reflect, guys.
00:15:16.400 And oh, society does.
00:15:17.560 He's scolding us again.
00:15:18.520 He always does.
00:15:19.400 He never makes an apology
00:15:20.380 on his own behalf.
00:15:21.900 Whatever he makes
00:15:22.440 in the public apology
00:15:23.380 whether it's Omar Khadar
00:15:24.660 or whatever
00:15:25.160 it's always someone else
00:15:26.620 who has to reflect on things.
00:15:27.860 Someone else who's done
00:15:28.480 something wrong.
00:15:29.360 Trudeau is the saint
00:15:30.160 who is enlightening us.
00:15:31.960 Not sure that's working here
00:15:33.060 from Hansi McGroper.
00:15:34.760 So let's keep watching
00:15:35.660 his video from yesterday.
00:15:36.560 Like I said, I've been working
00:15:38.860 very hard to try
00:15:39.800 and piece it together.
00:15:41.680 And even when the original editorial
00:15:46.800 came out at the time,
00:15:50.160 I was fairly confident,
00:15:53.620 I was very confident
00:15:54.560 that I hadn't acted in a way
00:15:56.220 that I felt was in any way inappropriate.
00:15:59.020 So he hadn't acted in a way
00:16:00.840 that he thought was inappropriate.
00:16:02.260 Well, then why did he apologize?
00:16:06.060 But to the point,
00:16:06.700 is the woman lying here?
00:16:08.920 She said he put his hands on her.
00:16:11.240 Did he?
00:16:12.580 When he says he's judging himself
00:16:14.580 and he judges that he didn't think
00:16:15.860 he did anything wrong,
00:16:16.740 well, I'm sure Harvey Weinstein
00:16:18.820 could say the same thing.
00:16:19.800 But what did he actually do,
00:16:21.400 objectively speaking?
00:16:22.420 And if it was nothing,
00:16:23.140 then why did he apologize?
00:16:24.260 And did he really tell the young woman
00:16:25.740 that he apologized
00:16:26.440 because he didn't realize
00:16:28.240 she was someone
00:16:28.800 who had a bit of power,
00:16:29.880 the power of the press?
00:16:30.720 But like I said,
00:16:32.120 part of the lesson
00:16:33.020 that we all have to learn
00:16:34.400 through this
00:16:35.080 is respecting that
00:16:37.480 the same interactions
00:16:39.620 can be felt very differently
00:16:43.680 by different people
00:16:45.280 going through them
00:16:46.060 and we have to respect that
00:16:47.820 and that's exactly
00:16:48.600 what we're having to come
00:16:50.680 to grips with as a society
00:16:52.600 and it's certainly something
00:16:53.480 I'm continuing to reflect on.
00:16:55.000 So he's really playing up
00:16:56.240 the he said, she said.
00:16:57.720 He's saying,
00:16:58.800 he said it,
00:17:00.060 we have to be
00:17:00.720 you have to respect
00:17:01.580 that different people
00:17:02.520 have different views
00:17:03.380 on what happened.
00:17:04.440 So guys, come on.
00:17:05.660 I mean, you've got to respect Trudeau
00:17:06.740 saying he doesn't remember
00:17:07.600 doing anything wrong.
00:17:08.820 You have to respect him
00:17:10.040 saying that, guys.
00:17:10.860 You have to.
00:17:11.600 He says so.
00:17:12.520 Trudeau says,
00:17:13.180 you have to respect
00:17:13.880 his point of view.
00:17:15.680 He fired liberal MPs
00:17:17.180 for much less,
00:17:17.820 for no proof,
00:17:18.400 for no confessions.
00:17:19.520 He said you have to believe
00:17:20.760 the accuser then,
00:17:21.760 but people,
00:17:22.780 that was when he,
00:17:23.960 it wasn't when he was
00:17:25.120 the groper.
00:17:25.640 Now,
00:17:26.860 you have to respect him.
00:17:27.900 No, buddy,
00:17:29.580 I don't.
00:17:31.080 A reporter asks
00:17:32.160 if he would apologize
00:17:33.700 now.
00:17:34.960 Would you apologize now?
00:17:36.820 I apologize
00:17:39.260 in the moment.
00:17:41.620 I certainly feel
00:17:42.860 that if,
00:17:45.760 again,
00:17:46.780 I don't want
00:17:47.600 to speak for her.
00:17:49.060 I don't want
00:17:49.760 to presume
00:17:50.700 how she feels now.
00:17:52.280 I haven't reached out
00:17:53.380 to her.
00:17:53.620 No one on my team
00:17:54.320 has reached out to her
00:17:55.640 and we don't think
00:17:56.140 that would be
00:17:56.520 appropriate at all.
00:17:58.180 So,
00:17:58.940 I'm responsible
00:18:01.200 for my side
00:18:02.420 of the interaction,
00:18:03.100 which certainly,
00:18:04.200 as I said,
00:18:04.840 I don't feel
00:18:05.660 was in any way
00:18:06.800 untoward.
00:18:07.900 But at the same time,
00:18:10.040 this lesson
00:18:11.200 that we are learning
00:18:12.100 in,
00:18:12.520 and I'll be blunt
00:18:13.400 about it,
00:18:14.080 often a man
00:18:15.140 experiences
00:18:15.840 an interaction
00:18:16.640 as being benign
00:18:18.640 or not inappropriate
00:18:20.260 and a woman,
00:18:22.020 particularly in a
00:18:23.000 professional context,
00:18:23.980 can experience it
00:18:24.740 differently
00:18:25.040 and we have to
00:18:25.740 respect that
00:18:26.740 and reflect on that.
00:18:27.880 So he says
00:18:28.520 he doesn't feel
00:18:29.080 it was in any way
00:18:30.160 untoward
00:18:30.820 and he's reflected
00:18:31.860 on it,
00:18:32.440 people,
00:18:32.860 so that's enough,
00:18:34.000 isn't it?
00:18:34.240 He's thought about it.
00:18:35.880 Say,
00:18:36.100 did this whole speech
00:18:37.560 he gave make it
00:18:38.280 clearer or less clear?
00:18:39.700 Is he sorry
00:18:40.360 for what he did
00:18:41.160 or not?
00:18:42.920 Is he calling her
00:18:43.680 a liar or not?
00:18:45.600 Is he saying
00:18:46.140 there were no
00:18:46.560 negative interactions
00:18:47.560 or just not
00:18:48.680 from his point of view?
00:18:50.100 We still don't know
00:18:51.500 what he actually
00:18:52.480 did to her,
00:18:53.340 do we?
00:18:54.340 He won't say.
00:18:56.400 He never did answer
00:18:57.280 the question
00:18:57.740 about an independent
00:18:58.560 inquiry,
00:18:59.160 did he?
00:18:59.540 He never said,
00:19:00.340 he said he never
00:19:01.160 contacted a woman.
00:19:02.120 I wonder if that's true.
00:19:03.580 I wonder if she was
00:19:04.320 contacted maybe
00:19:05.180 by his campaign chair
00:19:06.740 or something
00:19:07.580 back when Trudeau
00:19:08.540 was first running
00:19:09.100 for office.
00:19:09.620 I wonder if his team,
00:19:11.040 I don't know,
00:19:11.660 offered a sum of money
00:19:12.540 in a non-disclosure agreement.
00:19:13.780 I wonder,
00:19:14.500 our media had a field day
00:19:15.800 when Donald Trump
00:19:16.640 paid a porn
00:19:17.540 star for a non-disclosure
00:19:19.000 agreement over an
00:19:20.380 alleged consensual affair
00:19:21.880 more than a decade ago.
00:19:23.100 I bet the name
00:19:23.580 Stormy Daniels
00:19:24.680 has been on the CBC
00:19:25.520 a thousand times.
00:19:27.340 Trump denies the affair,
00:19:28.480 the porn star says
00:19:29.340 it happened,
00:19:29.860 but either version,
00:19:31.380 it was consensual,
00:19:33.000 but Trudeau and this
00:19:34.400 reporter was not
00:19:35.160 consensual.
00:19:35.780 This was an assault,
00:19:37.000 says the woman,
00:19:37.700 but the CBC isn't
00:19:38.780 really that interested,
00:19:41.080 is it?
00:19:42.280 Justin Trudeau
00:19:43.020 is a groper.
00:19:43.740 He admitted it
00:19:44.400 18 years ago.
00:19:45.180 he apologized
00:19:45.820 if saying,
00:19:47.200 sorry,
00:19:47.540 I didn't know
00:19:48.000 you were important
00:19:48.700 can be taken
00:19:49.440 as an apology.
00:19:51.520 Trudeau is gross,
00:19:52.280 like most male feminists
00:19:53.340 are gross,
00:19:53.980 but even grosser
00:19:55.000 is the media party
00:19:55.820 that has enabled this
00:19:57.180 and still is doing
00:19:58.200 everything they can
00:19:59.020 to keep their
00:19:59.560 handsy groper
00:20:00.820 in power,
00:20:01.380 because like Bill Clinton,
00:20:02.980 what's a few
00:20:03.860 sexual assaults
00:20:04.960 if it's our guy
00:20:06.980 in power,
00:20:07.740 right?
00:20:08.620 Stay with us
00:20:09.400 for more on this subject
00:20:10.380 with Prem Singh.
00:20:27.780 I remember that day
00:20:29.120 in Creston well.
00:20:30.060 It was an Avalanche Foundation
00:20:32.620 event to support
00:20:35.940 Avalanche Safety.
00:20:36.920 I had a good day
00:20:38.920 that day.
00:20:39.500 I don't remember
00:20:40.220 any negative interactions
00:20:41.740 that day at all.
00:20:42.600 No negative interactions.
00:20:44.780 That sounds so weird
00:20:46.120 and lawyerly.
00:20:47.040 No human talks that way.
00:20:48.940 It really reminds me
00:20:50.040 of the legal
00:20:50.840 pettifoggery
00:20:52.200 of Bill Clinton
00:20:53.320 when he said,
00:20:53.880 I did not have
00:20:54.740 sexual relations
00:20:55.640 with that woman,
00:20:56.940 Miss Lewinsky.
00:20:58.280 There were no
00:20:59.380 negative interactions.
00:21:01.720 Did anyone
00:21:03.340 outside of his own
00:21:04.940 inner circle
00:21:05.660 buy that?
00:21:06.920 Of course there was
00:21:07.900 a negative interaction.
00:21:08.800 Why else would he
00:21:10.080 have apologized
00:21:11.180 and explained,
00:21:12.940 oh, I thought you
00:21:13.420 were someone,
00:21:14.020 I didn't know
00:21:14.420 you were someone
00:21:14.840 important.
00:21:15.400 So weird.
00:21:17.420 Well, will he get
00:21:18.060 away with it?
00:21:19.260 Joining us now
00:21:19.940 via Skype
00:21:20.480 is our friend
00:21:21.020 Prem Singh,
00:21:22.260 a conservative
00:21:22.880 and a political
00:21:23.760 pundit from Calgary,
00:21:25.400 Alberta.
00:21:25.660 Prem, great to see
00:21:26.260 you again.
00:21:27.720 Thanks, Ezra.
00:21:28.440 You're being a bit
00:21:29.080 flattering by calling
00:21:30.200 me a pundit
00:21:31.040 from any means,
00:21:32.120 but as far as
00:21:34.520 the negative
00:21:35.620 interactions go,
00:21:37.360 it seems to be
00:21:38.460 the motto
00:21:39.660 of this liberal
00:21:40.640 government,
00:21:41.360 anytime they
00:21:42.280 don't know how
00:21:42.940 to deal with
00:21:43.480 something,
00:21:43.900 they create
00:21:44.740 a new term,
00:21:45.900 just like we
00:21:46.900 have irregular
00:21:48.060 migrants
00:21:48.880 instead of
00:21:49.660 illegal immigrants.
00:21:51.940 Negative interactions,
00:21:53.620 there obviously
00:21:54.200 was a negative
00:21:55.080 interaction
00:21:55.740 that this woman
00:21:56.900 chose to write
00:21:58.600 a piece in
00:21:59.720 the paper
00:22:00.300 that was never
00:22:02.160 refuted at
00:22:03.320 that time
00:22:04.280 and now
00:22:06.660 he's chosen
00:22:08.080 to use this
00:22:09.000 new terminology
00:22:09.900 that's, you know,
00:22:11.560 trendy or it's
00:22:12.560 his new buzzword
00:22:13.560 about negative
00:22:14.480 interactions
00:22:15.280 and how men
00:22:16.760 and women
00:22:17.320 might interpret
00:22:18.860 them differently.
00:22:20.480 And then he
00:22:20.900 chooses to
00:22:21.640 again further
00:22:22.620 say that
00:22:24.900 I think it was
00:22:25.660 yesterday where
00:22:26.500 he said
00:22:27.160 professional women
00:22:28.440 might interpret
00:22:29.600 things different
00:22:30.540 than I guess
00:22:31.240 any other woman
00:22:32.120 would.
00:22:33.020 Like, a lot of
00:22:34.020 this doesn't
00:22:34.620 make any sense
00:22:35.820 and he is
00:22:37.660 digging himself
00:22:38.900 so far deep
00:22:40.020 and he's already
00:22:41.180 set precedence
00:22:42.220 with other people
00:22:42.960 in his party
00:22:43.680 with Darshan Kang,
00:22:44.940 with Kent Hare
00:22:45.680 and with others.
00:22:48.020 So, you know,
00:22:49.200 is he going to
00:22:49.920 get away with it?
00:22:51.180 Well, in Trudeau
00:22:51.880 speak, yes.
00:22:53.040 But should he?
00:22:54.080 No.
00:22:54.800 I mean, the rest
00:22:55.560 of the world
00:22:56.000 has picked up
00:22:56.720 on this story
00:22:57.420 and it keeps
00:22:58.560 tumbleweeding
00:22:59.280 the way Trudeau
00:23:00.180 in India did.
00:23:01.340 Yeah.
00:23:02.080 Yeah, it's a very
00:23:02.900 good point
00:23:03.320 that the foreign
00:23:04.120 media was
00:23:05.300 much more
00:23:06.600 effective than
00:23:07.580 the well-trained
00:23:09.160 Canadian
00:23:10.040 house pet
00:23:10.680 media.
00:23:12.620 Now, you
00:23:13.260 mentioned Trudeau
00:23:14.320 saying men and
00:23:15.140 women can see
00:23:15.920 things differently.
00:23:16.840 By the way,
00:23:17.420 I think there's
00:23:17.940 some truth to
00:23:19.020 that.
00:23:19.380 I mean, any
00:23:20.460 two people
00:23:21.220 in a personal,
00:23:23.220 emotional,
00:23:23.920 sexual setting
00:23:25.100 can have
00:23:26.500 a different
00:23:26.840 understanding
00:23:27.380 of what's
00:23:27.740 going on.
00:23:28.620 But I would
00:23:29.000 point out
00:23:29.420 two things.
00:23:30.520 First of all,
00:23:31.280 every single
00:23:32.160 male who
00:23:33.560 has been
00:23:34.300 accused of
00:23:35.040 a Me Too
00:23:35.560 moment
00:23:36.000 uses that
00:23:36.860 same excuse.
00:23:38.280 And including
00:23:40.040 the horrific
00:23:40.780 cases,
00:23:41.920 the cases
00:23:42.560 where it
00:23:42.860 happens again
00:23:43.400 and again
00:23:43.760 and again.
00:23:44.180 So first of
00:23:44.700 all,
00:23:45.680 I don't
00:23:46.560 think that
00:23:47.940 we should
00:23:48.420 buy that
00:23:48.900 excuse because
00:23:49.660 Harvey Weinstein,
00:23:51.240 who's guilty
00:23:52.000 of so many
00:23:52.960 of those,
00:23:53.400 who's being
00:23:54.000 accused of so
00:23:54.580 many of those.
00:23:55.300 It's just a
00:23:56.160 pat excuse
00:23:57.360 that no one
00:23:57.900 buys.
00:23:58.520 But more
00:23:58.860 importantly,
00:23:59.600 Prem,
00:24:01.060 Trudeau himself
00:24:02.080 did not buy
00:24:03.080 that excuse
00:24:03.900 when he sacked
00:24:05.180 a whole raft
00:24:06.660 of his own
00:24:07.120 MPs and staff
00:24:08.160 for much
00:24:09.440 less,
00:24:10.440 much lower
00:24:11.220 standards of
00:24:12.000 evidence.
00:24:13.360 And so while
00:24:14.380 it may be the
00:24:15.400 case that in
00:24:16.580 his mind he
00:24:17.740 didn't do
00:24:18.220 anything wrong,
00:24:19.700 he already
00:24:20.160 admitted that
00:24:21.840 he went too
00:24:22.540 far,
00:24:22.900 he already
00:24:23.260 apologized 18
00:24:24.440 years ago.
00:24:25.180 And even
00:24:25.740 if that
00:24:26.000 wasn't the
00:24:26.400 case,
00:24:27.160 hasn't he
00:24:27.840 set the
00:24:28.420 standard for
00:24:29.940 himself?
00:24:31.340 Well,
00:24:31.980 he has,
00:24:32.660 and that's
00:24:33.080 where he's
00:24:33.540 now in a
00:24:34.260 pickle.
00:24:35.580 And he's
00:24:36.780 using all
00:24:37.600 this lawyerese,
00:24:38.820 legalese language
00:24:39.920 now to talk
00:24:41.480 himself out of
00:24:42.540 it,
00:24:43.120 which he
00:24:44.080 can't.
00:24:44.920 The onus is
00:24:45.740 on him.
00:24:46.420 He's already
00:24:47.100 apologized,
00:24:48.160 so we know
00:24:48.780 something did
00:24:49.680 happen.
00:24:50.160 now he
00:24:51.420 has selective
00:24:52.580 memory saying,
00:24:53.820 well,
00:24:54.040 he doesn't
00:24:54.600 recall anything
00:24:55.760 untoward.
00:24:57.300 And then he
00:24:57.840 also further
00:24:59.360 exclaims that,
00:25:01.460 you know,
00:25:02.040 men and women
00:25:02.720 look at these
00:25:03.320 things differently
00:25:04.140 and we need to
00:25:04.920 be aware of
00:25:05.700 them and
00:25:06.300 that's it,
00:25:07.720 end of story.
00:25:08.440 Well,
00:25:08.580 no,
00:25:08.820 it's not the
00:25:09.380 end of story.
00:25:10.440 And,
00:25:11.080 you know,
00:25:11.340 like you said,
00:25:12.340 it's Bill
00:25:13.120 Clinton all
00:25:14.220 over again.
00:25:15.740 And it'll
00:25:16.500 be interesting
00:25:17.220 to see what
00:25:18.140 Gerald Butts
00:25:18.840 and Katie
00:25:19.320 Telfer,
00:25:20.200 how they
00:25:20.780 choose to
00:25:21.460 spin this
00:25:22.060 because it's
00:25:22.580 not going
00:25:23.180 away.
00:25:24.260 And as
00:25:24.840 Canadians,
00:25:26.100 I mean,
00:25:26.500 we've demanded
00:25:27.120 a lot of
00:25:27.660 answers from
00:25:28.280 our Prime
00:25:28.680 Minister and
00:25:29.280 get none,
00:25:30.860 but this is
00:25:31.900 an issue
00:25:32.340 that he's
00:25:33.140 made in
00:25:34.140 the forefront
00:25:34.820 with his
00:25:36.520 gender equality
00:25:37.520 cabinet and
00:25:38.700 all of it,
00:25:39.460 bringing gender
00:25:40.240 equality into
00:25:41.260 NAFTA and
00:25:42.320 everywhere around
00:25:43.840 the world.
00:25:44.900 So he has
00:25:46.160 to talk
00:25:46.980 the talk,
00:25:47.820 walk the
00:25:48.880 walk,
00:25:49.340 sorry.
00:25:50.240 And so he's
00:25:51.300 going to have
00:25:52.180 to deal with
00:25:52.800 himself.
00:25:53.360 And I also
00:25:53.860 find it very
00:25:54.600 interesting who
00:25:56.420 originally brought
00:25:57.520 this story up
00:25:58.440 recently.
00:25:59.760 And I know
00:26:00.320 he did say
00:26:01.340 on the radio
00:26:02.240 yesterday,
00:26:03.120 Mr. Kinsella
00:26:03.820 said that he
00:26:05.140 wants to be a
00:26:06.140 better man.
00:26:07.600 And so,
00:26:08.740 you know,
00:26:09.080 he was bringing
00:26:09.800 light to this
00:26:10.700 story because
00:26:12.080 he thinks men
00:26:13.060 need to be
00:26:13.600 better men.
00:26:14.200 Well,
00:26:15.200 one has to
00:26:15.820 also wonder
00:26:16.540 if there is
00:26:17.920 a very
00:26:19.020 strong threat
00:26:20.780 that the
00:26:21.620 Liberal Party
00:26:22.360 is facing
00:26:23.160 in the
00:26:23.840 upcoming
00:26:24.240 election where
00:26:25.540 they feel,
00:26:26.980 you know,
00:26:27.260 let's look at
00:26:27.820 this from a
00:26:28.320 long game
00:26:28.820 perspective.
00:26:29.380 Are they
00:26:30.000 feeling that
00:26:30.780 they might
00:26:31.220 lose the
00:26:31.700 election because
00:26:32.740 of Justin
00:26:34.080 Trudeau
00:26:34.660 himself?
00:26:36.240 So if so,
00:26:37.640 does it make
00:26:38.200 more sense to
00:26:38.940 bring him down
00:26:39.600 now so they
00:26:40.280 can have a
00:26:40.780 leadership review
00:26:41.560 and have a
00:26:42.180 new leader
00:26:42.660 and try to
00:26:43.460 maintain
00:26:44.120 government?
00:26:45.540 I mean,
00:26:46.020 you have to
00:26:46.920 look at why
00:26:47.900 these things
00:26:48.500 are happening.
00:26:49.500 That's a very
00:26:50.120 interesting point.
00:26:51.020 Why didn't it
00:26:52.660 come out before?
00:26:54.140 You remind me of,
00:26:55.680 sorry,
00:26:56.000 go ahead,
00:26:56.440 Penn.
00:26:57.380 Sorry,
00:26:57.840 all those women
00:26:58.580 in his cabinet,
00:27:00.000 they're all
00:27:00.400 hypocrites.
00:27:01.560 I mean,
00:27:01.780 why are they
00:27:02.380 not speaking
00:27:03.100 out?
00:27:04.000 I mean,
00:27:04.300 it's,
00:27:05.020 as a woman,
00:27:05.800 if I was one
00:27:06.600 of them,
00:27:07.280 it would be
00:27:07.880 hard to
00:27:08.300 stomach being
00:27:08.980 part of that
00:27:09.520 government,
00:27:10.140 but they,
00:27:12.040 you know,
00:27:12.620 they're all
00:27:13.240 hypocrites and
00:27:13.980 they're,
00:27:14.700 you know,
00:27:15.080 talking about
00:27:15.800 being feminists
00:27:16.820 and it's
00:27:17.960 ridiculous.
00:27:19.300 And it's
00:27:19.660 offensive as
00:27:20.580 a woman to
00:27:21.760 watch them
00:27:22.660 stand there
00:27:23.260 and say
00:27:23.640 nothing.
00:27:24.860 You know,
00:27:25.560 between gender
00:27:27.280 equity and
00:27:29.000 global warming,
00:27:29.620 I think that's
00:27:30.180 about two-thirds
00:27:30.960 of what Justin
00:27:31.740 Trudeau and his
00:27:32.380 cabinet even
00:27:32.900 talk about.
00:27:33.880 So all his
00:27:34.980 foreign speeches
00:27:35.680 are about
00:27:36.100 feminism,
00:27:36.820 his NAFTA
00:27:37.420 negotiations about
00:27:38.340 feminism,
00:27:39.300 his whole repertoire
00:27:40.200 has just been
00:27:40.860 cut almost in
00:27:42.580 half.
00:27:43.100 I mean,
00:27:43.300 I can't imagine
00:27:44.060 him speaking on
00:27:44.900 feminism at the
00:27:45.720 World Trade
00:27:46.220 Organization or
00:27:47.060 the World Economic
00:27:48.260 Forum like he did
00:27:49.040 this year.
00:27:49.600 He would just be
00:27:50.040 laughed at.
00:27:51.260 But here's the
00:27:52.380 thing,
00:27:52.760 Prem,
00:27:52.880 you remind me of
00:27:53.620 Patrick Brown,
00:27:54.400 the former
00:27:54.880 Ontario PC
00:27:56.040 leader who was
00:27:57.120 taken out by a
00:27:58.340 bit of a mutiny.
00:27:59.440 I mean,
00:27:59.740 the media was
00:28:00.440 part of it.
00:28:01.280 But the thing
00:28:03.140 is,
00:28:04.160 his own senior
00:28:05.400 staff,
00:28:06.100 and MPPs
00:28:07.880 threw him out
00:28:08.900 the window
00:28:09.260 within hours.
00:28:11.140 What we haven't
00:28:11.820 seen here,
00:28:12.360 Prem,
00:28:12.540 and you refer
00:28:13.060 to it,
00:28:14.000 is the women
00:28:15.280 in his cabinet.
00:28:16.960 There's no
00:28:17.760 staff,
00:28:18.780 no MPs,
00:28:19.760 I can see of
00:28:20.300 any,
00:28:20.940 even backbenchers
00:28:22.340 or cabinet
00:28:22.840 ministers,
00:28:23.620 not one of them
00:28:25.080 is willing to
00:28:26.060 stand on
00:28:26.640 principle or
00:28:27.240 even as a
00:28:27.920 rival.
00:28:29.000 Patrick Brown,
00:28:30.020 the knives were
00:28:30.720 out either for
00:28:32.100 personal reasons
00:28:32.820 or they thought
00:28:33.340 this guy's
00:28:33.940 dead man
00:28:34.420 walking.
00:28:34.760 Why hasn't
00:28:36.020 a single
00:28:36.900 liberal,
00:28:37.780 the party
00:28:38.300 of male
00:28:38.700 feminists,
00:28:39.760 why hasn't
00:28:40.880 any of them
00:28:41.660 spoken out
00:28:42.300 against the
00:28:42.820 boss?
00:28:44.440 That's a good
00:28:45.400 question.
00:28:46.340 And one would
00:28:47.720 think that they
00:28:48.860 should be
00:28:49.260 concerned about
00:28:50.360 being re-elected
00:28:51.700 in their own
00:28:52.340 writings,
00:28:53.720 having said
00:28:54.600 nothing.
00:28:55.460 You know,
00:28:55.800 this government
00:28:56.380 has gone around
00:28:57.220 the world and
00:28:57.820 across our
00:28:58.400 country,
00:28:59.440 talking nothing
00:29:00.280 but,
00:29:00.960 you know,
00:29:02.140 racism or
00:29:03.240 gender and
00:29:04.220 diversity and
00:29:05.380 equality,
00:29:06.320 but they're
00:29:07.540 hypocritical on
00:29:08.780 all of it.
00:29:10.000 I mean,
00:29:10.840 I've never
00:29:11.500 seen,
00:29:12.440 I think I
00:29:13.020 tweeted this
00:29:13.680 the other day,
00:29:14.520 but I've never
00:29:15.180 seen in my
00:29:16.000 40 plus years
00:29:17.260 governments,
00:29:18.520 both provincially
00:29:19.280 and federally,
00:29:20.400 that have been
00:29:21.060 so divisive and
00:29:22.400 have promoted
00:29:23.240 racism and
00:29:24.400 hatred and
00:29:25.460 discord amongst
00:29:26.580 Canadians.
00:29:28.580 It's crazy.
00:29:30.280 And our
00:29:30.760 politicians,
00:29:31.600 I feel they
00:29:32.300 are lacking
00:29:32.980 the principles,
00:29:33.940 you know,
00:29:34.180 we're concerned
00:29:34.940 more about what's
00:29:35.900 in between
00:29:36.420 people's legs
00:29:37.440 than what's in
00:29:38.480 their brains
00:29:39.220 or what the
00:29:40.180 color of their
00:29:40.900 skin is as
00:29:42.020 opposed to
00:29:42.500 what's inside
00:29:43.280 of it.
00:29:44.360 It's enough.
00:29:45.920 Why can't we
00:29:46.500 just talk,
00:29:47.460 like,
00:29:47.800 see the truth,
00:29:48.600 enough of this
00:29:49.260 political speak
00:29:50.620 and rhetoric
00:29:51.200 and trying to
00:29:52.000 appease the
00:29:52.600 media,
00:29:53.480 appease this
00:29:54.100 group,
00:29:54.520 appease that
00:29:55.060 group.
00:29:55.640 How about just
00:29:56.260 being real
00:29:56.820 people for once?
00:29:57.980 Because that's
00:29:58.580 what we have to
00:29:59.240 do on an
00:29:59.680 everyday basis.
00:30:01.180 Yeah.
00:30:01.640 Well said.
00:30:02.600 I mean,
00:30:03.000 it's amazing.
00:30:04.220 The king of the
00:30:04.800 selfies was done
00:30:06.220 in by his
00:30:06.960 selfies in India.
00:30:08.340 Now the king
00:30:09.540 of male feminism
00:30:10.360 is being undone
00:30:11.880 by his own
00:30:12.320 Me Too moment.
00:30:13.940 It's a little bit
00:30:14.540 of karma and
00:30:15.320 it'll be interesting
00:30:15.940 to see how it
00:30:16.560 plays out.
00:30:17.020 I gotta tell you,
00:30:17.640 Prem,
00:30:18.120 I'm not optimistic
00:30:19.020 that anyone in
00:30:19.840 the Liberal Party
00:30:20.480 will do the
00:30:20.920 right thing.
00:30:21.440 I think they're
00:30:21.760 so beholden to
00:30:22.580 Trudeau.
00:30:23.280 They're so afraid
00:30:23.920 of going to an
00:30:24.520 election without
00:30:24.980 his brand name.
00:30:26.520 And I don't think
00:30:27.040 they ever really
00:30:28.280 meant the male
00:30:28.800 feminism.
00:30:29.420 I think it was
00:30:29.820 just a way to
00:30:31.120 put the opposition
00:30:32.560 on the back foot.
00:30:33.760 I think that
00:30:34.640 between our
00:30:35.640 media party
00:30:36.600 going soft on
00:30:37.900 him and the
00:30:38.880 Liberal Party
00:30:39.480 closing ranks
00:30:41.060 with him,
00:30:41.460 I think Trudeau
00:30:42.280 will survive
00:30:42.940 this because
00:30:43.920 the Liberals
00:30:44.580 feel terrified
00:30:46.140 without him.
00:30:46.740 Last word to
00:30:47.260 you, Prem.
00:30:49.000 Well, I agree
00:30:50.300 with you in that
00:30:50.940 I think you will
00:30:51.620 survive this,
00:30:53.020 but it's up to
00:30:53.800 us to keep
00:30:54.620 bringing it to
00:30:55.360 the table because
00:30:56.260 look how long
00:30:57.020 it took for
00:30:57.560 the Canadian
00:30:58.060 media to
00:30:58.960 actually write
00:30:59.760 about it.
00:31:00.940 So it's up
00:31:01.840 to us as
00:31:03.120 the grassroots
00:31:03.840 everyday people
00:31:04.760 to demand
00:31:05.320 answers and
00:31:06.280 to demand that
00:31:07.140 he hold
00:31:07.660 himself to
00:31:08.740 the same
00:31:09.420 precedent that
00:31:11.100 he's created
00:31:11.640 for everybody
00:31:12.240 else.
00:31:13.360 You're right,
00:31:14.100 and I hope
00:31:14.600 that my
00:31:14.940 prediction is
00:31:15.460 wrong.
00:31:15.880 I hope that
00:31:16.360 he is,
00:31:17.280 given the
00:31:17.700 bums rush,
00:31:18.520 and deserved
00:31:20.000 early retirement.
00:31:21.240 I just am not
00:31:22.220 confident enough
00:31:23.260 of the health
00:31:24.200 of the Liberal
00:31:24.680 Party or
00:31:25.220 our Canadian
00:31:25.720 media.
00:31:26.920 Exactly,
00:31:27.980 and especially
00:31:28.520 sorry to
00:31:29.400 interrupt you,
00:31:30.440 but look what
00:31:31.240 they've done
00:31:31.760 with all the
00:31:32.460 parody accounts,
00:31:33.720 and they're
00:31:34.080 upset that
00:31:35.040 everyday Canadians
00:31:36.860 can make fun
00:31:38.440 of them or
00:31:39.020 mock them in
00:31:39.780 a humorous
00:31:40.400 manner.
00:31:40.880 Well, when
00:31:41.780 things are so
00:31:42.580 bad, all we
00:31:43.600 can do is
00:31:44.280 laugh at
00:31:44.700 ourselves, and
00:31:45.840 they're trying
00:31:46.340 to even shut
00:31:47.020 that down.
00:31:48.060 You're so
00:31:48.680 right.
00:31:48.940 I wonder what
00:31:49.560 the censoring
00:31:50.620 they're doing
00:31:51.080 of this behind
00:31:52.000 the scenes that
00:31:52.580 we don't see
00:31:52.980 in public.
00:31:53.640 Prem's saying
00:31:54.000 it's great
00:31:54.300 to see you
00:31:54.700 again.
00:31:54.940 Keep fighting
00:31:55.320 for freedom
00:31:55.720 as you always
00:31:56.240 do.
00:31:56.860 All right.
00:31:57.560 Thank you.
00:31:58.100 Bye.
00:31:58.460 We'll stay in
00:31:59.040 touch on this
00:31:59.440 one.
00:31:59.580 I'm sure the
00:32:00.000 story is not
00:32:00.540 going away.
00:32:01.100 Stay with us.
00:32:01.920 More ahead on
00:32:02.420 the Rebel.
00:32:14.140 Welcome back.
00:32:14.840 Well, maybe it's
00:32:15.260 because I spend
00:32:15.700 a little bit of
00:32:16.200 time visiting
00:32:17.320 family in
00:32:18.100 Vancouver and
00:32:18.820 on Vancouver
00:32:19.300 Island that I
00:32:20.820 see with my
00:32:21.720 own eyes a
00:32:22.460 mighty
00:32:23.000 industrial site
00:32:24.860 right off of
00:32:26.340 Vancouver.
00:32:27.480 It is a coal
00:32:28.500 export terminal
00:32:29.980 that is so
00:32:30.960 huge.
00:32:32.380 It's just,
00:32:33.260 it's as big
00:32:34.240 as like a
00:32:34.760 major dam
00:32:36.100 or something.
00:32:36.920 It's a special
00:32:38.460 marine terminal
00:32:39.380 just for coal,
00:32:40.660 not with the
00:32:41.880 other marine
00:32:42.420 terminals for
00:32:43.080 every other
00:32:43.740 species of
00:32:44.860 import and
00:32:45.460 export.
00:32:46.300 And I also
00:32:47.240 hang out a
00:32:47.620 little bit in
00:32:48.040 Whistler,
00:32:48.520 B.C., and
00:32:49.640 every half
00:32:51.580 hour, every
00:32:52.680 hour, a
00:32:53.720 mighty train
00:32:54.960 rolls through
00:32:55.800 this beautiful
00:32:56.380 little tourist
00:32:57.000 town of
00:32:57.860 White Rock
00:32:58.340 and it has
00:32:59.380 only one
00:33:00.040 thing on
00:33:00.580 it, coal.
00:33:01.880 And it's
00:33:02.260 Warren Buffett's
00:33:03.280 trains.
00:33:03.740 I always note
00:33:04.360 them.
00:33:04.560 I say,
00:33:04.720 there's Warren
00:33:05.200 Buffett.
00:33:05.940 And it's
00:33:06.500 bringing coal
00:33:07.540 from America
00:33:09.340 to export
00:33:11.160 through Canada.
00:33:12.940 But there
00:33:13.760 was something
00:33:14.280 I did not
00:33:15.140 know about
00:33:16.660 that mighty
00:33:17.120 marine terminal
00:33:17.760 and these
00:33:18.340 mighty trains
00:33:19.120 and the
00:33:19.420 coal they're
00:33:19.760 in until I
00:33:20.740 read Lorne
00:33:21.120 Gunter's
00:33:21.480 column in
00:33:21.860 The Edmonton
00:33:22.260 Sun.
00:33:22.560 And he joins
00:33:22.940 us now to
00:33:23.340 talk about
00:33:23.760 it.
00:33:24.860 Lorne, thanks
00:33:25.180 for being
00:33:25.480 here.
00:33:26.300 Can I read
00:33:26.780 your headline?
00:33:27.300 I want you
00:33:27.580 to dig into
00:33:28.020 it.
00:33:28.840 Trade war
00:33:29.500 reveals
00:33:29.960 environmental
00:33:30.500 hypocrisy.
00:33:31.580 I know
00:33:32.260 those trains
00:33:32.980 well and
00:33:33.520 it's fun to
00:33:34.340 show kids
00:33:34.860 trains and
00:33:35.620 I always fly
00:33:36.240 over and I
00:33:37.140 know about
00:33:37.760 the coal.
00:33:38.860 But I
00:33:39.220 didn't know
00:33:39.840 the fact you
00:33:40.580 divined about
00:33:41.220 them.
00:33:41.440 Tell us about
00:33:41.940 it.
00:33:41.960 Well, and
00:33:42.280 anybody who's
00:33:43.220 ridden the
00:33:44.200 ferry that
00:33:45.100 goes out of
00:33:45.620 Swanson to
00:33:46.640 Vancouver
00:33:47.400 Island knows
00:33:48.980 that terminal
00:33:51.180 because it's
00:33:51.700 just north of
00:33:52.420 where you
00:33:52.840 drive your
00:33:53.900 car on the
00:33:54.360 ferry.
00:33:54.860 The next
00:33:55.160 place north
00:33:55.800 is this
00:33:56.220 enormous
00:33:56.820 coal harbor
00:33:58.820 or coal
00:33:59.240 port that
00:33:59.720 used to be
00:34:00.280 called
00:34:00.700 Roberts Bank.
00:34:02.100 They now
00:34:02.340 call it
00:34:02.680 West Shore
00:34:02.980 Terminal.
00:34:03.880 And what
00:34:04.880 happens there
00:34:05.680 is it's the
00:34:06.560 largest coal
00:34:07.880 terminal on
00:34:08.700 the West
00:34:09.100 Coast, Canada
00:34:09.940 or the United
00:34:10.540 States.
00:34:10.860 It's enormous.
00:34:11.540 It ships
00:34:12.340 more than
00:34:13.200 30 metric
00:34:14.100 tons, 30
00:34:15.600 million metric
00:34:16.760 tons a year
00:34:17.820 of coal, mostly
00:34:18.980 destined for
00:34:19.660 China.
00:34:20.700 And what I
00:34:21.740 didn't realize
00:34:22.340 until I started
00:34:22.880 digging around
00:34:23.600 is that almost
00:34:24.460 a third of
00:34:25.300 that coal, so
00:34:26.280 about 11
00:34:27.040 million metric
00:34:28.500 tons a year,
00:34:29.500 comes from
00:34:30.380 mostly Wyoming
00:34:31.360 and Montana.
00:34:32.180 It's American
00:34:32.740 coal.
00:34:33.220 A third of the
00:34:33.720 coal that goes
00:34:34.200 out of West
00:34:34.840 Shore is
00:34:35.720 American coal.
00:34:36.700 coal, it
00:34:37.000 comes from
00:34:37.560 Wyoming and
00:34:38.380 Montana for
00:34:39.060 the most
00:34:39.400 part, and
00:34:40.840 it ships
00:34:41.460 through the
00:34:42.860 port of
00:34:43.360 Vancouver,
00:34:44.260 making Vancouver
00:34:45.700 the largest
00:34:46.660 export terminal
00:34:49.320 for American
00:34:50.920 coal on the
00:34:52.140 West Coast.
00:34:52.640 It beats out
00:34:53.100 any American
00:34:53.920 terminal there
00:34:54.560 is.
00:34:54.920 More American
00:34:55.740 coal, one
00:34:56.400 third the
00:34:56.840 entire American
00:34:57.800 export of
00:34:58.940 coal goes out
00:34:59.860 of Vancouver
00:35:00.480 and not a
00:35:02.000 single lump of
00:35:02.900 it is subject
00:35:03.720 to the carbon
00:35:04.240 tech.
00:35:04.460 Well, that
00:35:05.060 is the
00:35:05.540 amazing part.
00:35:07.320 I mean, I'm
00:35:08.800 against carbon
00:35:09.300 tax, I know
00:35:09.780 you're against
00:35:10.120 the carbon
00:35:10.460 tax too, but
00:35:11.840 I think the
00:35:14.080 point here, the
00:35:14.620 incredible point
00:35:15.260 here is Alberta
00:35:16.960 is not allowed
00:35:18.020 to export its
00:35:18.900 oil, but
00:35:20.540 America is
00:35:21.300 allowed to
00:35:21.740 export its
00:35:22.380 coal, which
00:35:22.820 is even more
00:35:23.320 carbon intensive
00:35:24.380 and God
00:35:24.800 bless it, I'm
00:35:25.320 a pro-coal
00:35:25.780 guy, but you
00:35:27.100 don't hear a
00:35:27.740 peep from
00:35:28.220 Catherine McKenna
00:35:29.260 or John
00:35:30.880 Horgan or
00:35:31.700 Justin Trudeau
00:35:32.660 about carbon
00:35:34.040 taxing that
00:35:34.960 coal import
00:35:35.780 and export,
00:35:36.620 not a peep.
00:35:37.860 How come?
00:35:38.380 I am delighted
00:35:39.300 that Vancouver
00:35:40.060 is the biggest
00:35:40.860 export terminal
00:35:41.980 for American
00:35:42.720 coal on the
00:35:43.760 West Coast.
00:35:44.320 I think that's
00:35:44.780 great.
00:35:45.220 It's good
00:35:45.700 business.
00:35:46.320 Think of the
00:35:47.280 number of
00:35:47.740 jobs in the
00:35:49.020 lower mainland
00:35:49.680 that are
00:35:50.120 dependent on
00:35:50.720 the fact that
00:35:51.240 we have this
00:35:52.540 11 million
00:35:53.460 metric tons
00:35:54.280 of US coal
00:35:55.520 going through
00:35:56.120 one of our
00:35:56.980 ports.
00:35:58.260 And think
00:35:58.740 about the
00:35:59.100 leverage that
00:35:59.640 gives us
00:36:00.200 when we have
00:36:00.960 a trade war.
00:36:01.680 I'm not big
00:36:02.440 on the trade
00:36:02.980 war.
00:36:03.100 I don't want
00:36:03.920 to have a
00:36:04.420 trade war
00:36:04.780 with the
00:36:05.040 United States.
00:36:05.740 I understand
00:36:06.500 some of their
00:36:07.260 concerns about
00:36:08.220 supply managed
00:36:09.120 agriculture and
00:36:09.940 why they would
00:36:10.500 like us to
00:36:11.300 change that.
00:36:12.080 I got a whole
00:36:12.700 bunch of
00:36:13.140 different views
00:36:13.880 on the trade
00:36:14.620 war.
00:36:15.060 But I do
00:36:17.020 like the fact
00:36:17.700 that when
00:36:18.440 things are
00:36:18.940 going well,
00:36:19.680 we are a
00:36:20.460 big exporter
00:36:21.560 of American
00:36:22.260 coal.
00:36:22.840 But why is
00:36:24.420 it that
00:36:25.460 Alberta oil,
00:36:26.720 every ounce
00:36:27.900 of it,
00:36:28.700 has to be
00:36:29.320 subject to
00:36:29.900 this carbon
00:36:30.520 tax.
00:36:31.220 Every ounce
00:36:32.360 of it has
00:36:32.820 to be
00:36:33.140 delayed because
00:36:34.020 of the
00:36:34.480 BC government's
00:36:35.400 green agenda.
00:36:37.220 And yet the
00:36:37.680 BC government
00:36:38.780 allows 11
00:36:40.420 million metric
00:36:41.320 tons of
00:36:42.340 US coal to
00:36:43.980 be shipped
00:36:44.400 out of
00:36:44.740 Vancouver.
00:36:45.480 It takes
00:36:45.860 its taxes
00:36:46.940 off the
00:36:47.440 terminal and
00:36:49.260 earns a fair
00:36:51.080 amount of
00:36:51.400 money off of
00:36:51.960 it, but
00:36:52.980 doesn't subject
00:36:53.680 it to BC's
00:36:54.600 carbon tax and
00:36:55.780 doesn't have
00:36:56.400 any protests,
00:36:58.000 any qualms
00:36:59.500 or reservations.
00:37:00.220 They're not
00:37:00.520 going to court
00:37:01.280 to stop the
00:37:02.400 American coal
00:37:03.140 from coming
00:37:03.680 through the
00:37:04.040 way they're
00:37:04.440 going to
00:37:04.920 court to
00:37:05.620 stop Alberta
00:37:06.400 bitumen and
00:37:07.380 oil from
00:37:07.860 coming through.
00:37:08.500 The hypocrisy
00:37:09.420 of it just
00:37:10.160 staggered me.
00:37:11.120 You know,
00:37:11.960 when you have
00:37:12.820 little kids,
00:37:13.900 trains are fun,
00:37:14.860 you can show
00:37:15.400 the trains,
00:37:16.240 but I don't
00:37:16.960 know if you
00:37:17.200 know White Rock
00:37:17.760 and we'll show
00:37:18.300 an image of
00:37:18.740 the main
00:37:18.980 street here.
00:37:19.900 White Rock
00:37:20.160 is such a
00:37:20.580 pretty little
00:37:20.920 town and
00:37:21.840 you have all
00:37:22.240 these little
00:37:22.560 fish and chip
00:37:23.080 shops and
00:37:23.760 ice cream
00:37:24.480 parlors and
00:37:25.220 it's right on
00:37:25.640 this gorgeous
00:37:26.220 grid.
00:37:26.540 And then
00:37:27.140 every half
00:37:27.940 hour,
00:37:28.280 this thundering
00:37:29.700 train comes
00:37:30.600 through and
00:37:31.420 everything sort
00:37:32.040 of stops and
00:37:32.560 the trains
00:37:32.920 come through.
00:37:33.860 And again,
00:37:34.700 I'm not against
00:37:35.260 that and I'm
00:37:36.080 pro coal and
00:37:36.840 pro rail,
00:37:37.600 but I know
00:37:38.880 for a fact that
00:37:39.620 pipelines are
00:37:40.420 underground,
00:37:41.740 they're completely
00:37:42.440 silent,
00:37:43.720 they never
00:37:44.340 derail,
00:37:45.480 no one,
00:37:46.100 God forbid,
00:37:46.620 has ever been
00:37:47.080 run over by
00:37:48.180 a train,
00:37:50.320 sorry,
00:37:50.740 by a pipeline
00:37:51.640 on the train.
00:37:53.240 And again,
00:37:53.860 I'm not against
00:37:54.440 this coal,
00:37:55.040 but for
00:37:55.800 British Columbians
00:37:56.500 who worry about
00:37:57.020 noise pollution,
00:37:58.340 the pollution
00:37:58.780 from the
00:37:59.100 emissions of
00:37:59.580 the train,
00:38:00.260 derailments,
00:38:01.320 carbon,
00:38:01.740 and I'm
00:38:02.320 pro train,
00:38:03.120 pro coal,
00:38:03.720 all that,
00:38:04.700 but it
00:38:06.160 takes an
00:38:06.980 enormous effort
00:38:07.980 to pretend
00:38:09.080 a silent
00:38:10.220 underground safe
00:38:11.200 pipeline is
00:38:12.540 more offensive
00:38:13.200 in any way
00:38:14.820 to an American
00:38:16.220 coal train
00:38:16.940 owned by
00:38:17.520 Warren Buffett
00:38:18.220 blazing through
00:38:19.000 it 10 times
00:38:19.840 a day.
00:38:20.200 this is
00:38:21.380 pack mentality
00:38:22.660 though,
00:38:22.900 right?
00:38:23.160 You get
00:38:23.600 all these
00:38:24.120 people together
00:38:24.900 on Twitter
00:38:25.620 and other
00:38:26.320 social media
00:38:27.120 platforms
00:38:27.800 and they
00:38:28.440 get all
00:38:28.960 twisted out
00:38:29.860 of shape
00:38:30.400 about oil
00:38:31.300 and how
00:38:31.700 bad it
00:38:32.320 is and
00:38:32.660 how awful
00:38:33.180 for the
00:38:33.440 environment.
00:38:34.340 None of
00:38:34.920 the stuff
00:38:35.300 that they're
00:38:35.660 achieving,
00:38:36.240 let's say
00:38:36.840 they stop
00:38:37.320 every new
00:38:38.360 pipeline from
00:38:38.940 being built
00:38:39.460 out of
00:38:40.100 Canada to
00:38:41.100 anywhere on
00:38:42.360 the coast,
00:38:43.080 from Alberta
00:38:43.900 to anywhere,
00:38:44.840 New Brunswick,
00:38:45.900 Vancouver,
00:38:47.000 the Yukon,
00:38:47.580 who cares?
00:38:47.940 They stop
00:38:48.820 all of them.
00:38:50.180 Somebody else
00:38:51.160 will get that
00:38:52.180 oil or
00:38:53.120 replace it
00:38:53.900 with oil
00:38:54.300 from somewhere
00:38:54.920 else and
00:38:55.520 the same
00:38:56.200 amount of
00:38:56.960 oil,
00:38:57.800 perhaps with
00:38:58.420 more emissions,
00:38:59.440 certainly with
00:38:59.980 no fewer
00:39:00.900 emissions,
00:39:01.600 will get
00:39:02.180 used anyway.
00:39:04.360 They are not,
00:39:05.060 that's the other
00:39:06.320 thing about this
00:39:06.960 coal tidbit
00:39:08.420 that I found
00:39:09.080 that strikes me.
00:39:10.120 So, you know,
00:39:10.800 we could stop
00:39:11.920 all of our
00:39:12.500 oil shipments.
00:39:13.100 We're still
00:39:13.400 shipping coal.
00:39:14.320 Coal is still
00:39:15.100 going to be used.
00:39:15.440 We could stop
00:39:15.820 all our coal
00:39:16.460 shipments.
00:39:17.040 We're still
00:39:17.460 going to let
00:39:17.840 somebody else
00:39:18.260 mine the coal.
00:39:19.180 The market
00:39:20.180 will be
00:39:20.820 satisfied
00:39:21.380 whether we're
00:39:22.140 satisfying it
00:39:23.040 or not.
00:39:23.920 And the
00:39:24.620 emissions will
00:39:25.360 be produced
00:39:26.140 whether we're
00:39:26.880 producing them
00:39:27.560 or contributing
00:39:28.080 to the production
00:39:28.800 or not.
00:39:29.640 And so,
00:39:30.060 what we're
00:39:30.500 doing is
00:39:30.980 beggaring
00:39:31.480 ourselves
00:39:32.080 just for
00:39:33.580 the moral
00:39:34.640 superiority
00:39:35.500 it gives us.
00:39:36.180 Not for
00:39:36.620 any environmental
00:39:37.940 benefit
00:39:38.880 whatsoever,
00:39:39.880 but simply
00:39:40.560 so we can
00:39:41.180 smugly say,
00:39:42.480 look how
00:39:43.240 good we are.
00:39:44.440 Yeah.
00:39:44.900 Lauren,
00:39:45.420 you've been
00:39:46.100 generous with
00:39:46.540 your time,
00:39:46.840 but I want
00:39:47.100 to throw
00:39:47.340 one more
00:39:47.700 thing at
00:39:48.140 you because
00:39:48.440 you remind
00:39:48.920 me of
00:39:49.860 what finally
00:39:50.560 killed the
00:39:51.120 Energy East
00:39:51.680 pipeline.
00:39:52.680 Energy East
00:39:53.140 was proposed
00:39:53.600 by TransCanada.
00:39:54.620 It was my
00:39:55.020 favorite pipeline
00:39:55.760 of them all,
00:39:56.220 I'll be honest.
00:39:56.800 I mean,
00:39:56.940 I like our pipelines,
00:39:57.800 but I liked it
00:39:58.560 because it had
00:39:58.980 a national unity
00:39:59.720 feeling.
00:40:00.880 You know,
00:40:01.440 Alberta will
00:40:02.240 supply New
00:40:02.800 Brunswick and
00:40:03.700 Quebec and
00:40:04.660 lots of jobs
00:40:05.580 and 15.7
00:40:06.760 billion in
00:40:07.760 construction.
00:40:08.680 I just felt
00:40:09.200 great about it.
00:40:10.020 and Trudeau
00:40:14.940 killed it by
00:40:15.620 adding a new
00:40:16.640 condition halfway
00:40:17.520 through the
00:40:17.840 application,
00:40:18.440 which was that
00:40:19.440 TransCanada now
00:40:20.760 had to be
00:40:21.220 responsible for
00:40:22.000 the carbon
00:40:22.440 emissions of
00:40:23.000 the oil that
00:40:24.200 would be carried
00:40:24.760 within the
00:40:25.160 pipeline.
00:40:26.720 Just a bizarre
00:40:28.040 thing.
00:40:29.040 And I remember
00:40:29.720 talking to someone
00:40:30.380 from TransCanada
00:40:31.140 who pointed out
00:40:31.780 oil that's coming
00:40:33.780 to that same
00:40:34.460 New Brunswick
00:40:35.140 refinery now,
00:40:36.160 St. John's,
00:40:36.740 St. John,
00:40:38.560 New Brunswick,
00:40:39.040 the largest
00:40:39.440 refinery in all
00:40:40.080 of Canada.
00:40:40.480 It's not in
00:40:40.760 Alberta,
00:40:41.140 folks.
00:40:41.400 It's in New
00:40:42.120 Brunswick.
00:40:42.820 Coming from
00:40:43.500 Saudi and
00:40:44.080 other places,
00:40:44.940 it would not
00:40:46.180 be subject to
00:40:47.160 emissions reviews
00:40:48.220 by Trudeau.
00:40:49.360 So this is a
00:40:50.900 true apples to
00:40:51.840 apples comparison
00:40:52.640 because coal and
00:40:54.240 oil, they're
00:40:54.860 different.
00:40:55.880 But this was an
00:40:56.760 exact comparison,
00:40:57.840 Lorne.
00:40:58.080 You had proposed
00:40:59.180 oil from Alberta
00:41:00.520 through a Canadian
00:41:01.840 pipeline versus
00:41:03.640 oil from Saudi
00:41:04.780 Arabia through a
00:41:05.440 tanker.
00:41:05.940 Both go into
00:41:06.680 the same
00:41:07.040 customer, the
00:41:07.680 St. John,
00:41:08.400 New Brunswick
00:41:08.840 refinery.
00:41:10.120 Only the
00:41:10.860 Energy East
00:41:12.200 pipeline would
00:41:12.780 be subject to
00:41:13.460 that stringent
00:41:14.260 criticism and
00:41:16.020 inspection.
00:41:16.640 No OPEC oil.
00:41:17.580 To me, that was
00:41:18.320 the utter proof of
00:41:19.860 the moral bankruptcy
00:41:20.620 of Trudeau's views
00:41:21.880 on energy.
00:41:22.460 What do you
00:41:22.660 think?
00:41:22.760 Absolutely.
00:41:23.640 Absolutely.
00:41:24.180 You know, the
00:41:24.520 other thing that
00:41:24.880 bothered me about
00:41:25.380 the Energy East
00:41:26.000 cancellation was
00:41:26.800 Quebec said,
00:41:27.680 well, we're not
00:41:28.520 going to stand
00:41:29.680 for this because
00:41:30.300 there will be
00:41:31.000 too few Quebec
00:41:32.700 jobs produced.
00:41:33.760 Well, they could
00:41:34.340 have had much of
00:41:35.780 the oil in that
00:41:36.960 pipeline in
00:41:38.180 Quebec to
00:41:39.040 refine or deal
00:41:40.560 with however they
00:41:41.160 wanted to.
00:41:41.800 But they said,
00:41:42.320 no, no, no, we're
00:41:42.800 not going to do
00:41:43.340 that.
00:41:43.740 And then they
00:41:44.960 said, well, it's
00:41:45.540 not going to
00:41:45.740 produce any jobs
00:41:46.460 here.
00:41:46.940 Well, you guys
00:41:48.140 had just canceled
00:41:49.020 the chance you
00:41:49.660 had to produce
00:41:50.300 jobs.
00:41:50.500 It was their own
00:41:51.900 decision not to
00:41:52.740 have jobs from
00:41:53.520 the oil in that
00:41:54.360 pipeline.
00:41:55.000 And then they
00:41:55.380 used that as
00:41:56.000 the excuse to
00:41:56.620 cancel the pipeline.
00:41:57.140 That's a great
00:41:57.620 point.
00:41:58.000 There was going
00:41:58.540 to be a facility
00:41:59.220 at Cacauna,
00:42:00.520 if I'm pronouncing
00:42:01.220 it right.
00:42:02.040 And they said,
00:42:02.420 oh, but the
00:42:02.780 belugas, the
00:42:03.640 beluga whales,
00:42:04.120 of course, they
00:42:04.520 dumped billions
00:42:05.540 of liters of
00:42:06.420 untreated
00:42:07.360 sues.
00:42:07.720 Well, they found
00:42:07.860 all those right
00:42:08.520 whales out there
00:42:09.160 with something.
00:42:09.680 I don't know what
00:42:10.100 it is that they're
00:42:10.620 doing, but, you
00:42:11.500 know, they're
00:42:11.840 certainly not
00:42:12.480 environmentally
00:42:13.120 conscious.
00:42:14.420 Yeah, this is so
00:42:15.200 frustrating.
00:42:16.280 Well, Lauren, I'm
00:42:17.080 really glad you
00:42:17.720 wrote that article
00:42:18.280 because sometimes I
00:42:20.080 feel like I know
00:42:20.660 the facts in this
00:42:21.520 file, but there's
00:42:22.020 always something
00:42:22.480 extra to learn.
00:42:23.520 Yeah, there's
00:42:24.440 always something
00:42:24.900 different.
00:42:25.300 And I'm really
00:42:26.280 glad to know that
00:42:26.980 that's just another
00:42:27.760 proof point that
00:42:28.840 this is not actually
00:42:29.760 about saving the
00:42:31.220 earth or anything.
00:42:32.740 This is political
00:42:33.920 bigotry against
00:42:34.860 Alberta and
00:42:35.500 against Alberta
00:42:36.100 oil, and I
00:42:37.020 appreciate you
00:42:37.500 shining a light
00:42:38.000 on it.
00:42:38.920 Yeah, you bet.
00:42:39.740 All right, there's
00:42:40.180 our friend Lauren
00:42:40.640 Gontra.
00:42:40.880 Great to see you
00:42:41.440 again, my friend.
00:42:42.640 The article, for
00:42:43.280 those who haven't
00:42:43.800 read it, it's in
00:42:44.500 the Edmonton Sun.
00:42:45.440 It's called Trade
00:42:46.040 War Reveals
00:42:47.060 Environmental
00:42:47.700 Hypocrisy.
00:42:48.960 Give it a read.
00:42:49.580 Very interesting.
00:42:50.700 All right, stay
00:42:51.220 with us.
00:42:51.860 More Ahead on the
00:42:52.500 Rebel.
00:42:52.660 Hey, welcome
00:43:04.260 back.
00:43:04.860 On my interview
00:43:05.900 yesterday with
00:43:06.720 Mark Morano from
00:43:07.600 Climate Depot,
00:43:08.260 Paul writes,
00:43:09.220 they've been
00:43:09.780 spinning the same
00:43:10.540 man-made global
00:43:11.240 warming, cooling,
00:43:12.240 climate change
00:43:12.800 doomsday scenarios
00:43:13.580 since at least
00:43:14.400 the 1970s.
00:43:15.200 They just keep
00:43:16.240 redating them and
00:43:17.380 recycling them over
00:43:18.240 and over again.
00:43:19.040 Their solutions
00:43:19.560 never line up with
00:43:20.240 the problems they're
00:43:20.880 supposed to be
00:43:21.520 dealing with but
00:43:22.180 always cost a
00:43:23.460 fortune.
00:43:25.100 Yeah, and it's
00:43:25.820 so funny how the
00:43:26.560 people involved
00:43:27.580 with these
00:43:28.200 regulations and
00:43:29.400 policies always
00:43:30.020 seem to be
00:43:30.500 connected pretty
00:43:31.720 closely to the
00:43:32.480 folks getting
00:43:32.900 the massive
00:43:33.540 subsidies.
00:43:34.760 I'll never forget
00:43:35.680 the fact that the
00:43:36.440 president of the
00:43:37.060 federal and Ontario
00:43:38.060 liberal parties
00:43:38.800 just happened to
00:43:41.520 be the president
00:43:42.080 of a major
00:43:42.620 wind turbine
00:43:43.240 company.
00:43:44.180 It's a coincidence,
00:43:45.200 I'm sure.
00:43:46.300 Billy writes,
00:43:47.640 I just hope Ford
00:43:48.500 has the stones to
00:43:49.580 stand up for the
00:43:50.060 MSM and the
00:43:50.800 globalist cabal
00:43:51.500 behind them when
00:43:52.660 they start attacking
00:43:53.340 him and his
00:43:53.920 family.
00:43:55.160 Oh, you're exactly
00:43:55.860 right.
00:43:56.180 There's so many
00:43:56.720 things that Doug
00:43:57.520 Ford is challenging.
00:43:59.560 He's challenging
00:44:00.180 the open borders
00:44:01.060 policy of Justin
00:44:02.140 Trudeau.
00:44:02.720 He's challenging
00:44:03.300 cap and trade and
00:44:04.140 global warming and
00:44:04.800 carbon taxes.
00:44:05.820 Those are the two
00:44:06.480 favorite things for
00:44:07.300 the globalists.
00:44:07.960 I mean, that's, I
00:44:09.160 don't think Doug
00:44:09.820 Ford uses the
00:44:10.540 language globalist
00:44:11.500 or United Nations,
00:44:12.360 but he's taking
00:44:12.760 them on, isn't
00:44:13.220 he?
00:44:14.660 Bruce writes,
00:44:16.080 we conservatives
00:44:16.940 give up too
00:44:17.560 quickly.
00:44:18.240 How did the
00:44:18.620 climate pushers get
00:44:19.400 so much power?
00:44:20.320 They just kept
00:44:21.080 on pushing.
00:44:22.900 Well, that's the
00:44:23.560 thing.
00:44:23.900 I mean, the left
00:44:24.340 is absolutely
00:44:25.120 relentless.
00:44:26.220 They call it the
00:44:26.760 long march through
00:44:27.620 the institutions.
00:44:28.540 Conservatives are
00:44:29.220 too busy living
00:44:30.400 normal lives,
00:44:31.100 doing unpolitical
00:44:32.420 things, working.
00:44:35.100 Whereas the left
00:44:35.860 has this perpetual
00:44:36.760 activist class,
00:44:38.460 much of it
00:44:39.120 subsides.
00:44:39.760 Now, the news
00:44:40.520 out of the United
00:44:40.940 States last week
00:44:41.840 was very interesting.
00:44:42.860 There was a Supreme
00:44:43.440 Court case that
00:44:44.520 said workers can no
00:44:45.960 longer be compelled
00:44:47.080 to make contributions
00:44:48.880 to a union that
00:44:50.080 uses their money
00:44:50.740 politically.
00:44:51.620 I think that's
00:44:52.160 going to massively
00:44:53.000 defund the left
00:44:54.060 because whether it
00:44:55.220 was the subsidy
00:44:55.960 of taxpayers subsidizing
00:44:57.780 the professor class
00:44:59.060 or the subsidies
00:45:00.340 of private sector
00:45:01.220 workers or government
00:45:02.000 sector workers forced
00:45:03.420 to subsidize union
00:45:04.380 bosses, a lot of
00:45:05.520 the leftist support
00:45:06.500 is artificially
00:45:07.600 sponsored by
00:45:09.340 severely normal
00:45:10.040 taxpayers.
00:45:10.840 In the States,
00:45:11.720 that just took a
00:45:12.480 hit.
00:45:13.140 Wouldn't it be nice
00:45:13.740 if Canadians have
00:45:15.040 that same freedom
00:45:15.880 of choice?
00:45:16.720 Well, that's our
00:45:17.240 show for today.
00:45:17.820 It's great to be
00:45:18.440 back in Canada.
00:45:19.320 We were away for
00:45:19.960 10 days with the
00:45:21.080 Rebel Israel,
00:45:21.620 a great trip.
00:45:22.380 I'm sure that you've
00:45:23.720 had a chance to see
00:45:24.500 some of the clips
00:45:25.060 that we played
00:45:25.560 over the last week.
00:45:27.160 I look forward to
00:45:27.920 being here for a
00:45:28.460 little while.
00:45:29.140 That's enough travel
00:45:29.780 for me.
00:45:30.740 Until we return on
00:45:32.060 Monday, please enjoy
00:45:33.060 our YouTube videos.
00:45:34.440 Until then, good
00:45:35.980 night and keep
00:45:37.060 fighting for freedom.
00:45:43.740 bing
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