Rebel News Podcast - “Male feminist Justin Trudeau is just as handsy as Bill Clinton was”

00:00:00.000 Tonight, turns out, male feminist Justin Trudeau is just as handsy as Bill Clinton was.

00:00:06.320 It's July 6th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:14.640 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:18.460 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:22.180 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:25.160 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:35.960 In the year 2000, when Justin Trudeau was a grown man of 28 years,

00:00:40.240 he groped a female reporter who was trying to interview him when he was in the town of Creston, British Columbia.

00:00:46.040 He groped her. To use her words, he handled her.

00:00:49.940 And he apologized only when he realized that she wasn't just a small-town reporter.

00:00:54.220 She also worked for big newspapers like the National Post.

00:00:58.300 His excuse, his explanation was that, well, he didn't know that she was important.

00:01:04.160 Had he known that she was someone important, or more accurately, 0.92

00:01:06.760 someone who could embarrass him by exposing him as a sexual predator, 0.68

00:01:10.100 he wouldn't have groped her. He'd have groped someone else, someone less powerful. 0.82

00:01:14.160 Now, we know about this because the Creston Advance newspaper wrote about it,

00:01:19.860 likely written by the woman herself.

00:01:21.280 Here it is in the newspaper.

00:01:24.420 Editorial, open eyes.

00:01:26.720 I'm sorry if I had known you were reporting for a national paper.

00:01:29.600 I never would have been so forward.

00:01:32.160 Those were the words that were spoken to an advance reporter by Justin Trudeau,

00:01:36.200 son of former Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, August 4th.

00:01:40.020 Trudeau, who was in Creston to celebrate the Kokanee Summit Festival,

00:01:43.900 put on by the Columbia Brewery, apologized a day late

00:01:46.980 for inappropriately handling the reporter while she was on assignment,

00:01:51.280 not only for the advance, but also for the National Post and Vancouver Sun.

00:01:54.420 If I had known you were reporting for a national paper.

00:01:57.900 It's not a rare incident to have a young reporter,

00:02:00.660 especially a female who was working for a small community newspaper, 1.00

00:02:03.620 be considered an underling to their more predominant associates

00:02:06.860 and blatantly disrespected because of it.

00:02:09.240 But shouldn't the son of a former Prime Minister be aware of the rights and wrongs

00:02:13.440 that go along with public socializing?

00:02:15.920 Didn't he learn through his vast experiences in public life

00:02:18.480 that groping a strange young woman isn't in the handbook of proper etiquette,

00:02:23.140 regardless of who she is, what her business is, or where they are?

00:02:26.400 What makes the fact that she was working for the Post of any relevance?

00:02:29.580 Big stories break first in community papers, after all.

00:02:32.460 It may not have been an earth-shattering find,

00:02:34.280 but one thing could have been learned from the experience,

00:02:37.100 like father, like son.

00:02:40.020 So that was the editorial written 18 years ago.

00:02:42.200 Trudeau was 28 years old at the time,

00:02:43.920 which for many people is when they're getting serious about life,

00:02:46.280 starting a family, getting their career going, whatever.

00:02:48.800 But Trudeau was acting like a frat boy.

00:02:51.420 Frat boys are usually in college, so they're usually aged 18, 19, 20.

00:02:56.620 Trudeau was 10 years older than that.

00:02:58.400 There's a picture of him at that Kokanee Festival.

00:03:01.580 He was a frat boy well into his 30s, wouldn't you say?

00:03:04.280 That's a picture of him in Crest,

00:03:05.720 and I think that's what kids these days call a douche. 0.94

00:03:09.280 Just a party bro, super gross, 10 years too old to be doing it. 0.93

00:03:13.260 I'm not sure if you can see it, but look at that shirt he's wearing.

00:03:16.500 It's like a dragon shirt, which sort of makes me laugh.

00:03:22.220 And hey, why not?

00:03:23.040 Why not be a party boy, frat boy?

00:03:24.540 I mean, famous last name, multi-million dollar trust fund, pretty face.

00:03:28.120 Nothing earned, everything just came easy,

00:03:29.580 even down to his million dollar supercar inherited by his father.

00:03:34.540 And look at him just sitting on there like a douche.

00:03:37.980 He partied like that deep into his 30s,

00:03:40.000 and even after he was elected as an MP, he continued to party.

00:03:43.580 He's notorious for skipping work.

00:03:45.400 He's missed 17 personal days so far in 2018.

00:03:49.520 He admits he continued to smoke marijuana even after being elected.

00:03:53.760 His flights, he's taken, what, 56 or 57 foreign trips?

00:03:56.960 He hates work, and when he travels, he's often drunk.

00:04:00.460 I'm sorry, that's not an insult.

00:04:01.860 That's an observation based on the thousands of dollars of liquor

00:04:05.180 that are consumed on his private flights.

00:04:07.500 And sometimes he just doesn't stop drinking, even into meetings.

00:04:11.440 Look at how wobbly he is here, meeting with David Axelrod

00:04:14.200 in this Chicago meeting earlier this year.

00:04:17.360 Look at how many times he wobbles.

00:04:18.480 Thank you so much.

00:04:28.260 Yeah, but the media love him, so they ignore it.

00:04:34.960 They turn a blind eye.

00:04:37.120 Except this Creston groping incident, it's pretty specific.

00:04:41.200 He didn't just say suggestive words to the young reporter.

00:04:44.220 He handled her.

00:04:45.640 He groped her.

00:04:46.600 What did he do?

00:04:47.900 Where did he touch her?

00:04:48.760 What are the details?

00:04:50.340 And the fact that he felt compelled to apologize,

00:04:52.460 that not only suggests the gravity of the situation,

00:04:54.940 but importantly, it shows that he acknowledged

00:04:57.060 that he did these things.

00:04:58.760 There's no he said, she said.

00:05:00.740 He agrees it happened.

00:05:02.340 And now he's just trying to cover it up with a

00:05:04.240 sorry I didn't know who you were, non-apology.

00:05:07.140 Actually, that was his non-apology back then.

00:05:09.740 Now, well, I'll get into what he's saying now.

00:05:12.340 That's the kind of thing that would sink another politician,

00:05:14.480 don't you think?

00:05:15.020 Even another liberal.

00:05:15.820 In fact, Trudeau himself has fired a number of liberal MPs

00:05:19.920 from his caucus for much less,

00:05:23.040 including MPs who had consensual affairs,

00:05:26.780 MPs who never really got to learn the details

00:05:28.520 of the accusations against them.

00:05:29.940 Trudeau was clear.

00:05:31.220 You just have to accept the word of the accused.

00:05:33.780 Obviously, as I've said many times throughout this week,

00:05:37.640 it's really important to believe and support any woman who comes forward with allegations

00:05:43.600 of sexual harassment or sexual assault.

00:05:46.280 And that's exactly what my government and myself, we do.

00:05:50.380 I don't need to remind anyone of the positions I've taken from the very beginning of my leadership

00:05:57.240 on issues surrounding this.

00:05:59.420 I am unequivocal in my support for women who step forward with allegations of this nature.

00:06:06.640 And that continues.

00:06:08.740 Yeah.

00:06:08.940 So what about Trudeau himself?

00:06:10.420 It's not even just an accusation.

00:06:12.900 It's an accusation that he accepted as valid, 1.00

00:06:15.340 valid enough to acknowledge and semi-apologize,

00:06:18.180 except not now, right?

00:06:19.600 I mean, at first, Trudeau thought he could just slough this off as usual.

00:06:23.540 His aide, Matt Pescuso, made this statement a month ago,

00:06:27.120 and it was good enough for the CBC.

00:06:28.360 As the PM has said before,

00:06:30.500 he has always been very careful to treat everyone with respect.

00:06:33.260 His first experiences with activism were on the issue of sexual assault at McGill,

00:06:37.060 and he knows the importance of being thoughtful and respectful.

00:06:39.500 He remembers being in Creston for the Avalanche Foundation,

00:06:42.900 but doesn't think he had any negative interactions there, unquote.

00:06:48.400 That last part really sounds like Bill Clinton wrote it, doesn't it?

00:06:51.420 The legalistic use of words.

00:06:54.900 I want you to listen to me.

00:06:56.100 I'm going to say this again.

00:06:58.300 I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.

00:07:04.160 Yeah, that and negative interactions.

00:07:06.240 Now, that worked for the Canadian Media Party.

00:07:08.200 They're largely owned by Trudeau, as it is.

00:07:10.180 The CBC didn't touch the allegations.

00:07:13.240 All the corporate media looking for handouts didn't touch it.

00:07:17.060 And as if to make a point,

00:07:18.460 Gerald Butts, Trudeau's principal secretary,

00:07:20.220 and Trudeau cabinet ministers began demanding

00:07:22.500 that Twitter literally delete accounts

00:07:25.920 from vocal critics of the Liberal Party.

00:07:28.960 And Twitter complied.

00:07:30.180 That was enough to shut up most Canadian reporters,

00:07:34.160 but not the foreign press.

00:07:35.500 They don't answer to Gerald Butts and Justin Trudeau.

00:07:37.900 Not just conservative media like Fox News or the UK's Daily Mail,

00:07:41.300 but left-wing media abroad like the CNN,

00:07:44.280 the UK State Broadcaster, the BBC,

00:07:46.340 the Washington Post, Time Magazine.

00:07:47.820 I mean, it's not just that Trudeau is a groper in the age of Me Too.

00:07:51.800 It's that Trudeau is such a self-righteous, 0.99

00:07:53.800 pompous prat about being a male feminist. 0.98

00:07:56.300 It's what he talks about incessantly, 0.95

00:07:58.180 especially on the foreign circuit.

00:07:59.980 I mean, he went to the World Economic Forum in Davos,

00:08:02.980 and instead of talking about how he was going to deal with NAFTA

00:08:05.700 or counter America's tax cuts,

00:08:07.700 he gave a speech about feminism,

00:08:10.100 just like he always does.

00:08:12.340 But you need to take as much effort to talk to your sons,

00:08:16.620 my eight-year-old boy and my two-year-old,

00:08:18.440 so a little young still,

00:08:19.540 about how he treats women

00:08:21.180 and how he is going to be growing up

00:08:23.920 to be a feminist just like Dad. 1.00

00:08:25.660 How could you, as a reporter,

00:08:27.360 not find this to be a delicious story,

00:08:30.180 the male feminist caught in a grope?

00:08:32.340 So slowly, as the foreign press

00:08:34.000 ate the Canadian Media Party's lunch on this,

00:08:36.100 as they have so many times with Trudeau,

00:08:37.840 a few Canadian reporters summoned the courage

00:08:40.140 to put a question to their precious leader.

00:08:42.220 But it was just stranger and stranger.

00:08:44.140 Here's someone putting a question to Trudeau

00:08:45.880 while Ralph Goodale, the only grown-up in the party,

00:08:48.380 strains to listen.

00:08:49.440 I remember that day in Creston well.

00:08:51.740 It was an Avalanche Foundation event

00:08:55.820 to support Avalanche safety.

00:08:59.140 I had a good day that day.

00:09:01.200 I don't remember any negative interactions that day at all.

00:09:04.280 No negative interactions.

00:09:06.220 He's using that computer line again, eh?

00:09:08.780 At least none that he can remember.

00:09:10.160 Well, then why did he apologize at the time

00:09:14.140 if there was no negative interactions?

00:09:15.880 But the story kept going.

00:09:17.920 And yesterday, Trudeau was asked about it again.

00:09:20.900 And he changed his story again.

00:09:23.820 Not good.

00:09:24.460 Here, take a look.

00:09:25.380 You have had a zero-tolerance policy

00:09:27.660 when it comes to allegations of sexual misconduct

00:09:30.300 within your party.

00:09:31.660 There are serious allegations against you right now.

00:09:34.320 Why not call an independent investigation

00:09:36.220 and put the story to rest?

00:09:37.540 All right, good question.

00:09:38.340 Fair question.

00:09:38.900 Trudeau has had investigations of his other staff and MPs,

00:09:41.740 so why not for himself?

00:09:43.000 Here's the answer.

00:09:43.580 But it's a non-answer.

00:09:45.880 Obviously, this is a situation

00:09:48.840 that has been very much on my mind

00:09:50.360 over the past few weeks.

00:09:52.420 It's a issue that I have been deeply engaged with,

00:09:58.020 not just as a leader,

00:09:59.000 but all my life since my early 20s in university,

00:10:03.260 active on issues around sexual assault and behaviors.

00:10:08.500 Hang on, is that true?

00:10:09.440 Has Justin Trudeau actually done anything

00:10:11.860 about sexual assault in his whole life?

00:10:15.340 I mean, I'm sure he gives little video clips about it,

00:10:17.820 but do you really believe that Justin Trudeau

00:10:20.500 has actually done anything on the file in his life? 0.60

00:10:23.560 I'm not talking about foolish little things like this.

00:10:26.400 There's lots of things you can do

00:10:27.680 to be a better feminist as a man, 1.00

00:10:29.420 but here's a simple one.

00:10:30.960 Don't interrupt women. 0.98

00:10:32.340 I really think that's what Trudeau is thinking about

00:10:34.960 when he says he's been an activist

00:10:36.560 against sexual violence truly.

00:10:39.080 Of course, he doesn't mean it.

00:10:40.800 Maternal love is the love

00:10:42.800 that's going to change the future of mankind.

00:10:46.120 So we'd like you to...

00:10:47.360 We like to say people kind,

00:10:49.080 not necessarily mankind.

00:10:50.940 Anyway, back to his ramble yesterday.

00:10:52.980 I've been reflecting very carefully

00:10:58.340 on what I remember from that incident

00:11:00.780 almost 20 years ago.

00:11:03.620 And again, I am...

00:11:05.980 I feel I am confident

00:11:08.660 that I did not act inappropriately.

00:11:11.700 Well, if you didn't act inappropriately,

00:11:13.440 why did you apologize?

00:11:15.240 The woman in question said she was handled by Trudeau,

00:11:17.620 as in touched, groped, manhandled, people handled,

00:11:20.300 as Trudeau might say.

00:11:21.160 And it wasn't just words like,

00:11:22.760 hey, baby, did I mention

00:11:23.920 Pierre Trudeau was my father and I'm rich? 0.99

00:11:26.700 He was handsy, groping, molesting, 0.90

00:11:28.960 and he conceded that point in an apology. 0.61

00:11:30.920 But look at this classic Trudeau move

00:11:32.800 to blame the rest of us,

00:11:35.080 to scold the rest of us,

00:11:36.340 because he's never wrong personally.

00:11:39.260 But part of this awakening

00:11:41.180 that we're having as a society,

00:11:44.180 a long-awaited realization,

00:11:47.120 is that it's not just

00:11:50.040 one side

00:11:51.720 of the story that matters,

00:11:53.960 that the same interactions

00:11:56.140 could be experienced very differently

00:11:58.040 from one person to the next.

00:12:01.940 And I am not going to speak

00:12:04.380 for the woman in question.

00:12:05.680 I would never presume to speak for her.

00:12:09.140 But I know that

00:12:10.380 there is an awful lot of reflection

00:12:12.480 to be had as we move forward

00:12:14.560 as a society

00:12:15.380 on how people perceive

00:12:17.300 different interactions.

00:12:18.920 Hang on.

00:12:19.220 We, the rest of us,

00:12:20.760 as a society,

00:12:21.740 have to come to terms with things?

00:12:24.080 He said he never presumed

00:12:25.380 to speak for his victim,

00:12:26.400 but then he did.

00:12:27.800 He said she's wrong.

00:12:28.880 It didn't happen that way. 0.99

00:12:30.400 Crazy woman's wrong. 1.00

00:12:31.760 It never happened. 0.95

00:12:32.860 She needs to reflect more.

00:12:33.900 She needs to.

00:12:34.660 Listen.

00:12:34.920 Like I said,

00:12:37.140 I do not feel

00:12:38.360 that I acted inappropriately

00:12:39.980 in any way.

00:12:42.000 But I respect

00:12:43.560 the fact that someone else

00:12:45.620 might have experienced

00:12:46.620 that differently.

00:12:47.460 And this is part of the reflections

00:12:48.940 that we have to go through.

00:12:50.320 That's exactly what

00:12:51.260 most of the other men have said

00:12:52.360 who have been accused

00:12:53.460 of being gropers

00:12:54.640 from Harvey Weinstein

00:12:55.780 to Charlie Rose to Matt Lauer.

00:12:57.300 All of them impeccable liberals too.

00:12:58.760 All very sensitive men.

00:13:00.320 Proud male feminists.

00:13:01.520 But the thing about all of them

00:13:02.620 was they could be fired.

00:13:04.160 All of them,

00:13:05.440 even Harvey Weinstein,

00:13:06.680 as the boss of the Weinstein Company,

00:13:08.620 he could be fired

00:13:09.420 by his board of directors,

00:13:10.960 by his investors.

00:13:13.160 The rest of all the Me Too names

00:13:15.520 worked for massive companies

00:13:17.080 that could be fired

00:13:17.640 because the public saw enough.

00:13:18.840 They were predators.

00:13:20.760 But who can fire a prime minister?

00:13:23.060 His MPs could.

00:13:24.060 Theoretically,

00:13:24.500 in our Canadian system,

00:13:25.860 MPs can fire a prime minister,

00:13:27.220 but they're not going to.

00:13:28.600 They don't want to go

00:13:29.280 into an election

00:13:29.880 wounded by this admission

00:13:32.100 with an unknown,

00:13:33.220 unpopular leader.

00:13:33.960 They're not going to do it.

00:13:35.700 The CBC,

00:13:36.340 the state broadcaster,

00:13:37.340 they're not going to lead the charge.

00:13:38.540 They're owned by Trudeau.

00:13:40.820 Here's the CBC's

00:13:41.800 lead political correspondent

00:13:43.300 taking a lovey-dovey selfie

00:13:44.940 with Justin Trudeau.

00:13:46.240 Yeah,

00:13:46.580 she's not going to lead the charge. 0.92

00:13:47.760 She won't get any more

00:13:48.340 selfies like that.

00:13:49.380 Who knows?

00:13:50.340 Maybe he groped her.

00:13:51.280 I wonder where his right hand is there.

00:13:52.760 I don't know.

00:13:53.600 I doubt it.

00:13:54.140 She's not his type.

00:13:57.240 I don't know.

00:13:57.840 Maybe Althea Raj 1.00

00:13:58.640 or Paul Wells

00:13:59.460 will lead the charge here.

00:14:00.280 I'm kidding.

00:14:00.980 I'm kidding.

00:14:01.460 Of course they won't.

00:14:02.240 They won't get any more selfies

00:14:03.620 with Trudeau.

00:14:05.660 So who's going to lead the charge?

00:14:06.940 Maybe an independent inquiry.

00:14:08.660 That was the first question

00:14:09.980 asked yesterday, wasn't it?

00:14:11.020 And Trudeau managed to ignore it

00:14:12.500 so far.

00:14:13.660 Hasn't he?

00:14:14.020 Mr. Prime Minister,

00:14:14.760 the question was

00:14:15.460 why not call an independent investigation

00:14:17.180 if there are questions

00:14:19.240 and she says that

00:14:20.180 that you apologized to her.

00:14:23.600 Again, I've been reflecting

00:14:26.040 on the actual interaction

00:14:27.620 and if I apologized later

00:14:31.500 then it would be because

00:14:33.140 I sensed that she was not

00:14:34.680 entirely comfortable

00:14:36.000 with the interaction we had.

00:14:38.440 Oh, hang on.

00:14:39.220 He sensed something was wrong

00:14:40.860 so he apologized

00:14:41.540 but remember he apologized

00:14:43.580 a day later.

00:14:44.580 Remember that's what

00:14:45.080 the editorial said

00:14:45.820 so how did he sense it?

00:14:48.320 How did he find her again?

00:14:49.420 What really happened there?

00:14:50.620 What made him sense things?

00:14:52.080 I think he's lying

00:14:52.880 or hiding things, don't you?

00:14:54.440 But also didn't he tell us

00:14:55.980 there were no negative interactions?

00:14:59.100 So which is it?

00:14:59.800 He sensed things were wrong

00:15:00.880 a negative interaction

00:15:02.120 or there were no negative interactions?

00:15:04.040 Which one of those two alibis is it?

00:15:06.420 But you see what he's doing too.

00:15:07.700 He's switching this from about him

00:15:09.440 to about all of us as society.

00:15:11.620 We are wrong.

00:15:12.540 We need to reflect.

00:15:13.760 And that's all you need to do.

00:15:14.700 Just reflect, guys.

00:15:16.400 And oh, society does.

00:15:17.560 He's scolding us again.

00:15:18.520 He always does.

00:15:19.400 He never makes an apology

00:15:20.380 on his own behalf.

00:15:21.900 Whatever he makes

00:15:22.440 in the public apology

00:15:23.380 whether it's Omar Khadar

00:15:24.660 or whatever

00:15:25.160 it's always someone else

00:15:26.620 who has to reflect on things.

00:15:27.860 Someone else who's done

00:15:28.480 something wrong.

00:15:29.360 Trudeau is the saint

00:15:30.160 who is enlightening us.

00:15:31.960 Not sure that's working here

00:15:33.060 from Hansi McGroper.

00:15:34.760 So let's keep watching

00:15:35.660 his video from yesterday.

00:15:36.560 Like I said, I've been working

00:15:38.860 very hard to try

00:15:39.800 and piece it together.

00:15:41.680 And even when the original editorial

00:15:46.800 came out at the time,

00:15:50.160 I was fairly confident,

00:15:53.620 I was very confident

00:15:54.560 that I hadn't acted in a way

00:15:56.220 that I felt was in any way inappropriate.

00:15:59.020 So he hadn't acted in a way

00:16:00.840 that he thought was inappropriate.

00:16:02.260 Well, then why did he apologize?

00:16:06.060 But to the point,

00:16:06.700 is the woman lying here? 0.78

00:16:08.920 She said he put his hands on her.

00:16:11.240 Did he?

00:16:12.580 When he says he's judging himself

00:16:14.580 and he judges that he didn't think

00:16:15.860 he did anything wrong,

00:16:16.740 well, I'm sure Harvey Weinstein

00:16:18.820 could say the same thing.

00:16:19.800 But what did he actually do,

00:16:21.400 objectively speaking?

00:16:22.420 And if it was nothing,

00:16:23.140 then why did he apologize?

00:16:24.260 And did he really tell the young woman

00:16:25.740 that he apologized

00:16:26.440 because he didn't realize

00:16:28.240 she was someone

00:16:28.800 who had a bit of power,

00:16:29.880 the power of the press?

00:16:30.720 But like I said,

00:16:32.120 part of the lesson

00:16:33.020 that we all have to learn

00:16:34.400 through this

00:16:35.080 is respecting that

00:16:37.480 the same interactions

00:16:39.620 can be felt very differently

00:16:43.680 by different people

00:16:45.280 going through them

00:16:46.060 and we have to respect that

00:16:47.820 and that's exactly

00:16:48.600 what we're having to come

00:16:50.680 to grips with as a society

00:16:52.600 and it's certainly something

00:16:53.480 I'm continuing to reflect on.

00:16:55.000 So he's really playing up

00:16:56.240 the he said, she said.

00:16:57.720 He's saying,

00:16:58.800 he said it,

00:17:00.060 we have to be

00:17:00.720 you have to respect

00:17:01.580 that different people

00:17:02.520 have different views

00:17:03.380 on what happened.

00:17:04.440 So guys, come on.

00:17:05.660 I mean, you've got to respect Trudeau

00:17:06.740 saying he doesn't remember

00:17:07.600 doing anything wrong.

00:17:08.820 You have to respect him

00:17:10.040 saying that, guys.

00:17:10.860 You have to.

00:17:11.600 He says so.

00:17:12.520 Trudeau says,

00:17:13.180 you have to respect

00:17:13.880 his point of view.

00:17:15.680 He fired liberal MPs

00:17:17.180 for much less,

00:17:17.820 for no proof,

00:17:18.400 for no confessions.

00:17:19.520 He said you have to believe

00:17:20.760 the accuser then,

00:17:21.760 but people,

00:17:22.780 that was when he,

00:17:23.960 it wasn't when he was

00:17:25.120 the groper.

00:17:25.640 Now,

00:17:26.860 you have to respect him.

00:17:27.900 No, buddy,

00:17:29.580 I don't.

00:17:31.080 A reporter asks

00:17:32.160 if he would apologize

00:17:33.700 now.

00:17:34.960 Would you apologize now?

00:17:36.820 I apologize

00:17:39.260 in the moment.

00:17:41.620 I certainly feel

00:17:42.860 that if,

00:17:45.760 again,

00:17:46.780 I don't want

00:17:47.600 to speak for her.

00:17:49.060 I don't want

00:17:49.760 to presume

00:17:50.700 how she feels now.

00:17:52.280 I haven't reached out

00:17:53.380 to her.

00:17:53.620 No one on my team

00:17:54.320 has reached out to her

00:17:55.640 and we don't think

00:17:56.140 that would be

00:17:56.520 appropriate at all.

00:17:58.180 So,

00:17:58.940 I'm responsible

00:18:01.200 for my side

00:18:02.420 of the interaction,

00:18:03.100 which certainly,

00:18:04.200 as I said,

00:18:04.840 I don't feel

00:18:05.660 was in any way

00:18:06.800 untoward.

00:18:07.900 But at the same time,

00:18:10.040 this lesson

00:18:11.200 that we are learning

00:18:12.100 in,

00:18:12.520 and I'll be blunt

00:18:13.400 about it,

00:18:14.080 often a man

00:18:15.140 experiences

00:18:15.840 an interaction

00:18:16.640 as being benign

00:18:18.640 or not inappropriate

00:18:20.260 and a woman,

00:18:22.020 particularly in a

00:18:23.000 professional context,

00:18:23.980 can experience it

00:18:24.740 differently

00:18:25.040 and we have to

00:18:25.740 respect that

00:18:26.740 and reflect on that.

00:18:27.880 So he says

00:18:28.520 he doesn't feel

00:18:29.080 it was in any way

00:18:30.160 untoward

00:18:30.820 and he's reflected

00:18:31.860 on it,

00:18:32.440 people,

00:18:32.860 so that's enough,

00:18:34.000 isn't it?

00:18:34.240 He's thought about it.

00:18:35.880 Say,

00:18:36.100 did this whole speech

00:18:37.560 he gave make it

00:18:38.280 clearer or less clear?

00:18:39.700 Is he sorry

00:18:40.360 for what he did

00:18:41.160 or not?

00:18:42.920 Is he calling her

00:18:43.680 a liar or not?

00:18:45.600 Is he saying

00:18:46.140 there were no

00:18:46.560 negative interactions

00:18:47.560 or just not

00:18:48.680 from his point of view?

00:18:50.100 We still don't know

00:18:51.500 what he actually

00:18:52.480 did to her,

00:18:53.340 do we?

00:18:54.340 He won't say.

00:18:56.400 He never did answer

00:18:57.280 the question

00:18:57.740 about an independent

00:18:58.560 inquiry,

00:18:59.160 did he?

00:18:59.540 He never said,

00:19:00.340 he said he never

00:19:01.160 contacted a woman.

00:19:02.120 I wonder if that's true.

00:19:03.580 I wonder if she was

00:19:04.320 contacted maybe

00:19:05.180 by his campaign chair

00:19:06.740 or something

00:19:07.580 back when Trudeau

00:19:08.540 was first running

00:19:09.100 for office.

00:19:09.620 I wonder if his team,

00:19:11.040 I don't know,

00:19:11.660 offered a sum of money

00:19:12.540 in a non-disclosure agreement.

00:19:13.780 I wonder,

00:19:14.500 our media had a field day

00:19:15.800 when Donald Trump 0.97

00:19:16.640 paid a porn

00:19:17.540 star for a non-disclosure

00:19:19.000 agreement over an

00:19:20.380 alleged consensual affair

00:19:21.880 more than a decade ago.

00:19:23.100 I bet the name

00:19:23.580 Stormy Daniels

00:19:24.680 has been on the CBC

00:19:25.520 a thousand times.

00:19:27.340 Trump denies the affair,

00:19:28.480 the porn star says

00:19:29.340 it happened,

00:19:29.860 but either version,

00:19:31.380 it was consensual,

00:19:33.000 but Trudeau and this

00:19:34.400 reporter was not

00:19:35.160 consensual.

00:19:35.780 This was an assault,

00:19:37.000 says the woman,

00:19:37.700 but the CBC isn't

00:19:38.780 really that interested,

00:19:41.080 is it?

00:19:42.280 Justin Trudeau

00:19:43.020 is a groper.

00:19:43.740 He admitted it

00:19:44.400 18 years ago.

00:19:45.180 he apologized

00:19:45.820 if saying,

00:19:47.200 sorry,

00:19:47.540 I didn't know

00:19:48.000 you were important

00:19:48.700 can be taken

00:19:49.440 as an apology. 0.99

00:19:51.520 Trudeau is gross, 0.99

00:19:52.280 like most male feminists 1.00

00:19:53.340 are gross, 1.00

00:19:53.980 but even grosser 0.94

00:19:55.000 is the media party

00:19:55.820 that has enabled this

00:19:57.180 and still is doing

00:19:58.200 everything they can

00:19:59.020 to keep their

00:19:59.560 handsy groper

00:20:00.820 in power,

00:20:01.380 because like Bill Clinton,

00:20:02.980 what's a few 0.83

00:20:03.860 sexual assaults

00:20:04.960 if it's our guy 0.59

00:20:06.980 in power,

00:20:07.740 right?

00:20:08.620 Stay with us

00:20:09.400 for more on this subject

00:20:10.380 with Prem Singh.

00:20:27.780 I remember that day

00:20:29.120 in Creston well.

00:20:30.060 It was an Avalanche Foundation

00:20:32.620 event to support

00:20:35.940 Avalanche Safety.

00:20:36.920 I had a good day

00:20:38.920 that day.

00:20:39.500 I don't remember

00:20:40.220 any negative interactions

00:20:41.740 that day at all.

00:20:42.600 No negative interactions.

00:20:44.780 That sounds so weird

00:20:46.120 and lawyerly.

00:20:47.040 No human talks that way.

00:20:48.940 It really reminds me

00:20:50.040 of the legal

00:20:50.840 pettifoggery

00:20:52.200 of Bill Clinton

00:20:53.320 when he said,

00:20:53.880 I did not have

00:20:54.740 sexual relations

00:20:55.640 with that woman,

00:20:56.940 Miss Lewinsky.

00:20:58.280 There were no

00:20:59.380 negative interactions.

00:21:01.720 Did anyone

00:21:03.340 outside of his own

00:21:04.940 inner circle

00:21:05.660 buy that?

00:21:06.920 Of course there was

00:21:07.900 a negative interaction.

00:21:08.800 Why else would he

00:21:10.080 have apologized

00:21:11.180 and explained,

00:21:12.940 oh, I thought you

00:21:13.420 were someone,

00:21:14.020 I didn't know

00:21:14.420 you were someone

00:21:14.840 important.

00:21:15.400 So weird.

00:21:17.420 Well, will he get

00:21:18.060 away with it?

00:21:19.260 Joining us now

00:21:19.940 via Skype

00:21:20.480 is our friend

00:21:21.020 Prem Singh,

00:21:22.260 a conservative

00:21:22.880 and a political

00:21:23.760 pundit from Calgary,

00:21:25.400 Alberta.

00:21:25.660 Prem, great to see

00:21:26.260 you again.

00:21:27.720 Thanks, Ezra.

00:21:28.440 You're being a bit

00:21:29.080 flattering by calling

00:21:30.200 me a pundit

00:21:31.040 from any means,

00:21:32.120 but as far as

00:21:34.520 the negative

00:21:35.620 interactions go,

00:21:37.360 it seems to be

00:21:38.460 the motto

00:21:39.660 of this liberal

00:21:40.640 government,

00:21:41.360 anytime they

00:21:42.280 don't know how

00:21:42.940 to deal with

00:21:43.480 something,

00:21:43.900 they create

00:21:44.740 a new term,

00:21:45.900 just like we

00:21:46.900 have irregular

00:21:48.060 migrants

00:21:48.880 instead of

00:21:49.660 illegal immigrants.

00:21:51.940 Negative interactions,

00:21:53.620 there obviously

00:21:54.200 was a negative

00:21:55.080 interaction

00:21:55.740 that this woman

00:21:56.900 chose to write

00:21:58.600 a piece in

00:21:59.720 the paper

00:22:00.300 that was never

00:22:02.160 refuted at

00:22:03.320 that time

00:22:04.280 and now

00:22:06.660 he's chosen

00:22:08.080 to use this

00:22:09.000 new terminology

00:22:09.900 that's, you know,

00:22:11.560 trendy or it's

00:22:12.560 his new buzzword

00:22:13.560 about negative

00:22:14.480 interactions

00:22:15.280 and how men

00:22:16.760 and women

00:22:17.320 might interpret

00:22:18.860 them differently.

00:22:20.480 And then he

00:22:20.900 chooses to

00:22:21.640 again further

00:22:22.620 say that

00:22:24.900 I think it was

00:22:25.660 yesterday where

00:22:26.500 he said

00:22:27.160 professional women 0.97

00:22:28.440 might interpret

00:22:29.600 things different

00:22:30.540 than I guess

00:22:31.240 any other woman

00:22:32.120 would.

00:22:33.020 Like, a lot of

00:22:34.020 this doesn't

00:22:34.620 make any sense

00:22:35.820 and he is

00:22:37.660 digging himself

00:22:38.900 so far deep

00:22:40.020 and he's already

00:22:41.180 set precedence

00:22:42.220 with other people

00:22:42.960 in his party

00:22:43.680 with Darshan Kang,

00:22:44.940 with Kent Hare

00:22:45.680 and with others.

00:22:48.020 So, you know,

00:22:49.200 is he going to

00:22:49.920 get away with it?

00:22:51.180 Well, in Trudeau

00:22:51.880 speak, yes.

00:22:53.040 But should he?

00:22:54.080 No.

00:22:54.800 I mean, the rest

00:22:55.560 of the world

00:22:56.000 has picked up

00:22:56.720 on this story

00:22:57.420 and it keeps

00:22:58.560 tumbleweeding

00:22:59.280 the way Trudeau

00:23:00.180 in India did.

00:23:01.340 Yeah.

00:23:02.080 Yeah, it's a very

00:23:02.900 good point

00:23:03.320 that the foreign 0.99

00:23:04.120 media was

00:23:05.300 much more

00:23:06.600 effective than

00:23:07.580 the well-trained

00:23:09.160 Canadian

00:23:10.040 house pet

00:23:10.680 media.

00:23:12.620 Now, you

00:23:13.260 mentioned Trudeau

00:23:14.320 saying men and

00:23:15.140 women can see 1.00

00:23:15.920 things differently.

00:23:16.840 By the way,

00:23:17.420 I think there's

00:23:17.940 some truth to

00:23:19.020 that.

00:23:19.380 I mean, any

00:23:20.460 two people

00:23:21.220 in a personal,

00:23:23.220 emotional,

00:23:23.920 sexual setting

00:23:25.100 can have

00:23:26.500 a different

00:23:26.840 understanding

00:23:27.380 of what's

00:23:27.740 going on.

00:23:28.620 But I would

00:23:29.000 point out

00:23:29.420 two things.

00:23:30.520 First of all,

00:23:31.280 every single

00:23:32.160 male who

00:23:33.560 has been

00:23:34.300 accused of

00:23:35.040 a Me Too

00:23:35.560 moment

00:23:36.000 uses that

00:23:36.860 same excuse.

00:23:38.280 And including

00:23:40.040 the horrific

00:23:40.780 cases,

00:23:41.920 the cases

00:23:42.560 where it

00:23:42.860 happens again

00:23:43.400 and again

00:23:43.760 and again.

00:23:44.180 So first of

00:23:44.700 all,

00:23:45.680 I don't

00:23:46.560 think that

00:23:47.940 we should

00:23:48.420 buy that

00:23:48.900 excuse because

00:23:49.660 Harvey Weinstein,

00:23:51.240 who's guilty

00:23:52.000 of so many

00:23:52.960 of those,

00:23:53.400 who's being

00:23:54.000 accused of so

00:23:54.580 many of those.

00:23:55.300 It's just a

00:23:56.160 pat excuse

00:23:57.360 that no one

00:23:57.900 buys.

00:23:58.520 But more

00:23:58.860 importantly,

00:23:59.600 Prem,

00:24:01.060 Trudeau himself

00:24:02.080 did not buy

00:24:03.080 that excuse 0.98

00:24:03.900 when he sacked

00:24:05.180 a whole raft

00:24:06.660 of his own

00:24:07.120 MPs and staff

00:24:08.160 for much

00:24:09.440 less,

00:24:10.440 much lower

00:24:11.220 standards of

00:24:12.000 evidence.

00:24:13.360 And so while

00:24:14.380 it may be the

00:24:15.400 case that in

00:24:16.580 his mind he

00:24:17.740 didn't do

00:24:18.220 anything wrong,

00:24:19.700 he already

00:24:20.160 admitted that

00:24:21.840 he went too

00:24:22.540 far,

00:24:22.900 he already

00:24:23.260 apologized 18

00:24:24.440 years ago.

00:24:25.180 And even

00:24:25.740 if that

00:24:26.000 wasn't the

00:24:26.400 case,

00:24:27.160 hasn't he

00:24:27.840 set the

00:24:28.420 standard for

00:24:29.940 himself?

00:24:31.340 Well,

00:24:31.980 he has,

00:24:32.660 and that's

00:24:33.080 where he's

00:24:33.540 now in a

00:24:34.260 pickle.

00:24:35.580 And he's

00:24:36.780 using all

00:24:37.600 this lawyerese,

00:24:38.820 legalese language

00:24:39.920 now to talk

00:24:41.480 himself out of

00:24:42.540 it,

00:24:43.120 which he

00:24:44.080 can't.

00:24:44.920 The onus is

00:24:45.740 on him.

00:24:46.420 He's already

00:24:47.100 apologized,

00:24:48.160 so we know

00:24:48.780 something did

00:24:49.680 happen.

00:24:50.160 now he

00:24:51.420 has selective

00:24:52.580 memory saying,

00:24:53.820 well,

00:24:54.040 he doesn't

00:24:54.600 recall anything

00:24:55.760 untoward.

00:24:57.300 And then he

00:24:57.840 also further

00:24:59.360 exclaims that,

00:25:01.460 you know,

00:25:02.040 men and women

00:25:02.720 look at these

00:25:03.320 things differently

00:25:04.140 and we need to

00:25:04.920 be aware of

00:25:05.700 them and

00:25:06.300 that's it,

00:25:07.720 end of story.

00:25:08.440 Well,

00:25:08.580 no,

00:25:08.820 it's not the

00:25:09.380 end of story.

00:25:10.440 And,

00:25:11.080 you know,

00:25:11.340 like you said,

00:25:12.340 it's Bill

00:25:13.120 Clinton all

00:25:14.220 over again.

00:25:15.740 And it'll

00:25:16.500 be interesting

00:25:17.220 to see what

00:25:18.140 Gerald Butts

00:25:18.840 and Katie

00:25:19.320 Telfer,

00:25:20.200 how they

00:25:20.780 choose to

00:25:21.460 spin this

00:25:22.060 because it's

00:25:22.580 not going

00:25:23.180 away.

00:25:24.260 And as

00:25:24.840 Canadians,

00:25:26.100 I mean,

00:25:26.500 we've demanded

00:25:27.120 a lot of

00:25:27.660 answers from

00:25:28.280 our Prime

00:25:28.680 Minister and

00:25:29.280 get none,

00:25:30.860 but this is

00:25:31.900 an issue

00:25:32.340 that he's

00:25:33.140 made in

00:25:34.140 the forefront

00:25:34.820 with his

00:25:36.520 gender equality

00:25:37.520 cabinet and

00:25:38.700 all of it,

00:25:39.460 bringing gender

00:25:40.240 equality into

00:25:41.260 NAFTA and

00:25:42.320 everywhere around

00:25:43.840 the world.

00:25:44.900 So he has

00:25:46.160 to talk

00:25:46.980 the talk,

00:25:47.820 walk the

00:25:48.880 walk,

00:25:49.340 sorry.

00:25:50.240 And so he's

00:25:51.300 going to have

00:25:52.180 to deal with

00:25:52.800 himself.

00:25:53.360 And I also

00:25:53.860 find it very

00:25:54.600 interesting who

00:25:56.420 originally brought

00:25:57.520 this story up

00:25:58.440 recently.

00:25:59.760 And I know

00:26:00.320 he did say

00:26:01.340 on the radio

00:26:02.240 yesterday,

00:26:03.120 Mr. Kinsella

00:26:03.820 said that he

00:26:05.140 wants to be a

00:26:06.140 better man.

00:26:07.600 And so,

00:26:08.740 you know,

00:26:09.080 he was bringing

00:26:09.800 light to this

00:26:10.700 story because

00:26:12.080 he thinks men

00:26:13.060 need to be

00:26:13.600 better men.

00:26:14.200 Well,

00:26:15.200 one has to

00:26:15.820 also wonder

00:26:16.540 if there is

00:26:17.920 a very

00:26:19.020 strong threat

00:26:20.780 that the

00:26:21.620 Liberal Party

00:26:22.360 is facing

00:26:23.160 in the

00:26:23.840 upcoming

00:26:24.240 election where

00:26:25.540 they feel,

00:26:26.980 you know,

00:26:27.260 let's look at

00:26:27.820 this from a

00:26:28.320 long game

00:26:28.820 perspective.

00:26:29.380 Are they

00:26:30.000 feeling that

00:26:30.780 they might

00:26:31.220 lose the

00:26:31.700 election because

00:26:32.740 of Justin

00:26:34.080 Trudeau

00:26:34.660 himself?

00:26:36.240 So if so,

00:26:37.640 does it make

00:26:38.200 more sense to

00:26:38.940 bring him down

00:26:39.600 now so they

00:26:40.280 can have a

00:26:40.780 leadership review

00:26:41.560 and have a

00:26:42.180 new leader

00:26:42.660 and try to

00:26:43.460 maintain

00:26:44.120 government?

00:26:45.540 I mean,

00:26:46.020 you have to

00:26:46.920 look at why

00:26:47.900 these things

00:26:48.500 are happening.

00:26:49.500 That's a very

00:26:50.120 interesting point.

00:26:51.020 Why didn't it

00:26:52.660 come out before?

00:26:54.140 You remind me of,

00:26:55.680 sorry,

00:26:56.000 go ahead,

00:26:56.440 Penn.

00:26:57.380 Sorry,

00:26:57.840 all those women 1.00

00:26:58.580 in his cabinet,

00:27:00.000 they're all 1.00

00:27:00.400 hypocrites. 1.00

00:27:01.560 I mean, 1.00

00:27:01.780 why are they

00:27:02.380 not speaking

00:27:03.100 out?

00:27:04.000 I mean,

00:27:04.300 it's,

00:27:05.020 as a woman,

00:27:05.800 if I was one

00:27:06.600 of them,

00:27:07.280 it would be

00:27:07.880 hard to

00:27:08.300 stomach being

00:27:08.980 part of that

00:27:09.520 government,

00:27:10.140 but they,

00:27:12.040 you know,

00:27:12.620 they're all 1.00

00:27:13.240 hypocrites and 1.00

00:27:13.980 they're, 1.00

00:27:14.700 you know,

00:27:15.080 talking about

00:27:15.800 being feminists

00:27:16.820 and it's 1.00

00:27:17.960 ridiculous. 0.98

00:27:19.300 And it's 1.00

00:27:19.660 offensive as

00:27:20.580 a woman to

00:27:21.760 watch them

00:27:22.660 stand there

00:27:23.260 and say

00:27:23.640 nothing.

00:27:24.860 You know,

00:27:25.560 between gender

00:27:27.280 equity and

00:27:29.000 global warming,

00:27:29.620 I think that's

00:27:30.180 about two-thirds

00:27:30.960 of what Justin

00:27:31.740 Trudeau and his

00:27:32.380 cabinet even

00:27:32.900 talk about.

00:27:33.880 So all his

00:27:34.980 foreign speeches

00:27:35.680 are about

00:27:36.100 feminism,

00:27:36.820 his NAFTA

00:27:37.420 negotiations about

00:27:38.340 feminism,

00:27:39.300 his whole repertoire

00:27:40.200 has just been

00:27:40.860 cut almost in

00:27:42.580 half.

00:27:43.100 I mean,

00:27:43.300 I can't imagine

00:27:44.060 him speaking on

00:27:44.900 feminism at the 0.99

00:27:45.720 World Trade

00:27:46.220 Organization or

00:27:47.060 the World Economic

00:27:48.260 Forum like he did

00:27:49.040 this year.

00:27:49.600 He would just be

00:27:50.040 laughed at.

00:27:51.260 But here's the

00:27:52.380 thing,

00:27:52.760 Prem,

00:27:52.880 you remind me of

00:27:53.620 Patrick Brown,

00:27:54.400 the former

00:27:54.880 Ontario PC

00:27:56.040 leader who was

00:27:57.120 taken out by a

00:27:58.340 bit of a mutiny.

00:27:59.440 I mean,

00:27:59.740 the media was

00:28:00.440 part of it.

00:28:01.280 But the thing

00:28:03.140 is,

00:28:04.160 his own senior

00:28:05.400 staff,

00:28:06.100 and MPPs

00:28:07.880 threw him out

00:28:08.900 the window

00:28:09.260 within hours.

00:28:11.140 What we haven't

00:28:11.820 seen here,

00:28:12.360 Prem,

00:28:12.540 and you refer

00:28:13.060 to it,

00:28:14.000 is the women 0.97

00:28:15.280 in his cabinet.

00:28:16.960 There's no

00:28:17.760 staff,

00:28:18.780 no MPs,

00:28:19.760 I can see of

00:28:20.300 any,

00:28:20.940 even backbenchers

00:28:22.340 or cabinet

00:28:22.840 ministers,

00:28:23.620 not one of them

00:28:25.080 is willing to

00:28:26.060 stand on

00:28:26.640 principle or

00:28:27.240 even as a

00:28:27.920 rival.

00:28:29.000 Patrick Brown,

00:28:30.020 the knives were

00:28:30.720 out either for

00:28:32.100 personal reasons

00:28:32.820 or they thought

00:28:33.340 this guy's

00:28:33.940 dead man

00:28:34.420 walking.

00:28:34.760 Why hasn't

00:28:36.020 a single

00:28:36.900 liberal,

00:28:37.780 the party

00:28:38.300 of male

00:28:38.700 feminists,

00:28:39.760 why hasn't

00:28:40.880 any of them

00:28:41.660 spoken out

00:28:42.300 against the

00:28:42.820 boss?

00:28:44.440 That's a good

00:28:45.400 question.

00:28:46.340 And one would

00:28:47.720 think that they

00:28:48.860 should be

00:28:49.260 concerned about

00:28:50.360 being re-elected

00:28:51.700 in their own

00:28:52.340 writings,

00:28:53.720 having said

00:28:54.600 nothing.

00:28:55.460 You know,

00:28:55.800 this government

00:28:56.380 has gone around

00:28:57.220 the world and

00:28:57.820 across our

00:28:58.400 country,

00:28:59.440 talking nothing

00:29:00.280 but,

00:29:00.960 you know,

00:29:02.140 racism or

00:29:03.240 gender and

00:29:04.220 diversity and

00:29:05.380 equality,

00:29:06.320 but they're 0.99

00:29:07.540 hypocritical on 0.99

00:29:08.780 all of it. 0.94

00:29:10.000 I mean,

00:29:10.840 I've never

00:29:11.500 seen,

00:29:12.440 I think I

00:29:13.020 tweeted this

00:29:13.680 the other day,

00:29:14.520 but I've never

00:29:15.180 seen in my

00:29:16.000 40 plus years

00:29:17.260 governments,

00:29:18.520 both provincially

00:29:19.280 and federally,

00:29:20.400 that have been

00:29:21.060 so divisive and

00:29:22.400 have promoted

00:29:23.240 racism and

00:29:24.400 hatred and

00:29:25.460 discord amongst

00:29:26.580 Canadians.

00:29:28.580 It's crazy.

00:29:30.280 And our

00:29:30.760 politicians,

00:29:31.600 I feel they

00:29:32.300 are lacking

00:29:32.980 the principles,

00:29:33.940 you know,

00:29:34.180 we're concerned

00:29:34.940 more about what's

00:29:35.900 in between

00:29:36.420 people's legs

00:29:37.440 than what's in

00:29:38.480 their brains

00:29:39.220 or what the 0.96

00:29:40.180 color of their

00:29:40.900 skin is as

00:29:42.020 opposed to

00:29:42.500 what's inside

00:29:43.280 of it.

00:29:44.360 It's enough.

00:29:45.920 Why can't we

00:29:46.500 just talk,

00:29:47.460 like,

00:29:47.800 see the truth,

00:29:48.600 enough of this

00:29:49.260 political speak

00:29:50.620 and rhetoric

00:29:51.200 and trying to

00:29:52.000 appease the

00:29:52.600 media,

00:29:53.480 appease this

00:29:54.100 group,

00:29:54.520 appease that

00:29:55.060 group.

00:29:55.640 How about just

00:29:56.260 being real

00:29:56.820 people for once?

00:29:57.980 Because that's

00:29:58.580 what we have to

00:29:59.240 do on an

00:29:59.680 everyday basis.

00:30:01.180 Yeah.

00:30:01.640 Well said.

00:30:02.600 I mean,

00:30:03.000 it's amazing.

00:30:04.220 The king of the

00:30:04.800 selfies was done

00:30:06.220 in by his

00:30:06.960 selfies in India.

00:30:08.340 Now the king

00:30:09.540 of male feminism

00:30:10.360 is being undone

00:30:11.880 by his own

00:30:12.320 Me Too moment.

00:30:13.940 It's a little bit

00:30:14.540 of karma and

00:30:15.320 it'll be interesting

00:30:15.940 to see how it

00:30:16.560 plays out.

00:30:17.020 I gotta tell you,

00:30:17.640 Prem,

00:30:18.120 I'm not optimistic

00:30:19.020 that anyone in

00:30:19.840 the Liberal Party

00:30:20.480 will do the

00:30:20.920 right thing.

00:30:21.440 I think they're

00:30:21.760 so beholden to

00:30:22.580 Trudeau.

00:30:23.280 They're so afraid

00:30:23.920 of going to an

00:30:24.520 election without

00:30:24.980 his brand name.

00:30:26.520 And I don't think

00:30:27.040 they ever really

00:30:28.280 meant the male

00:30:28.800 feminism. 1.00

00:30:29.420 I think it was

00:30:29.820 just a way to

00:30:31.120 put the opposition

00:30:32.560 on the back foot.

00:30:33.760 I think that

00:30:34.640 between our

00:30:35.640 media party

00:30:36.600 going soft on

00:30:37.900 him and the

00:30:38.880 Liberal Party

00:30:39.480 closing ranks

00:30:41.060 with him,

00:30:41.460 I think Trudeau

00:30:42.280 will survive

00:30:42.940 this because

00:30:43.920 the Liberals

00:30:44.580 feel terrified

00:30:46.140 without him.

00:30:46.740 Last word to

00:30:47.260 you, Prem.

00:30:49.000 Well, I agree

00:30:50.300 with you in that

00:30:50.940 I think you will

00:30:51.620 survive this,

00:30:53.020 but it's up to

00:30:53.800 us to keep

00:30:54.620 bringing it to

00:30:55.360 the table because

00:30:56.260 look how long

00:30:57.020 it took for

00:30:57.560 the Canadian

00:30:58.060 media to

00:30:58.960 actually write

00:30:59.760 about it.

00:31:00.940 So it's up

00:31:01.840 to us as

00:31:03.120 the grassroots

00:31:03.840 everyday people

00:31:04.760 to demand

00:31:05.320 answers and

00:31:06.280 to demand that

00:31:07.140 he hold

00:31:07.660 himself to

00:31:08.740 the same

00:31:09.420 precedent that

00:31:11.100 he's created

00:31:11.640 for everybody

00:31:12.240 else.

00:31:13.360 You're right,

00:31:14.100 and I hope

00:31:14.600 that my

00:31:14.940 prediction is

00:31:15.460 wrong.

00:31:15.880 I hope that

00:31:16.360 he is,

00:31:17.280 given the

00:31:17.700 bums rush,

00:31:18.520 and deserved

00:31:20.000 early retirement.

00:31:21.240 I just am not

00:31:22.220 confident enough

00:31:23.260 of the health

00:31:24.200 of the Liberal

00:31:24.680 Party or

00:31:25.220 our Canadian

00:31:25.720 media.

00:31:26.920 Exactly,

00:31:27.980 and especially

00:31:28.520 sorry to

00:31:29.400 interrupt you,

00:31:30.440 but look what

00:31:31.240 they've done

00:31:31.760 with all the

00:31:32.460 parody accounts,

00:31:33.720 and they're

00:31:34.080 upset that

00:31:35.040 everyday Canadians

00:31:36.860 can make fun

00:31:38.440 of them or

00:31:39.020 mock them in

00:31:39.780 a humorous

00:31:40.400 manner.

00:31:40.880 Well, when

00:31:41.780 things are so

00:31:42.580 bad, all we

00:31:43.600 can do is

00:31:44.280 laugh at

00:31:44.700 ourselves, and

00:31:45.840 they're trying

00:31:46.340 to even shut

00:31:47.020 that down.

00:31:48.060 You're so

00:31:48.680 right.

00:31:48.940 I wonder what

00:31:49.560 the censoring

00:31:50.620 they're doing

00:31:51.080 of this behind

00:31:52.000 the scenes that

00:31:52.580 we don't see

00:31:52.980 in public.

00:31:53.640 Prem's saying

00:31:54.000 it's great

00:31:54.300 to see you

00:31:54.700 again.

00:31:54.940 Keep fighting

00:31:55.320 for freedom

00:31:55.720 as you always

00:31:56.240 do.

00:31:56.860 All right.

00:31:57.560 Thank you.

00:31:58.100 Bye.

00:31:58.460 We'll stay in

00:31:59.040 touch on this

00:31:59.440 one.

00:31:59.580 I'm sure the

00:32:00.000 story is not

00:32:00.540 going away.

00:32:01.100 Stay with us.

00:32:01.920 More ahead on

00:32:02.420 the Rebel.

00:32:14.140 Welcome back.

00:32:14.840 Well, maybe it's

00:32:15.260 because I spend

00:32:15.700 a little bit of

00:32:16.200 time visiting

00:32:17.320 family in

00:32:18.100 Vancouver and

00:32:18.820 on Vancouver

00:32:19.300 Island that I

00:32:20.820 see with my

00:32:21.720 own eyes a

00:32:22.460 mighty

00:32:23.000 industrial site

00:32:24.860 right off of

00:32:26.340 Vancouver.

00:32:27.480 It is a coal

00:32:28.500 export terminal

00:32:29.980 that is so

00:32:30.960 huge.

00:32:32.380 It's just,

00:32:33.260 it's as big

00:32:34.240 as like a

00:32:34.760 major dam

00:32:36.100 or something.

00:32:36.920 It's a special

00:32:38.460 marine terminal

00:32:39.380 just for coal,

00:32:40.660 not with the

00:32:41.880 other marine

00:32:42.420 terminals for

00:32:43.080 every other

00:32:43.740 species of

00:32:44.860 import and

00:32:45.460 export.

00:32:46.300 And I also

00:32:47.240 hang out a

00:32:47.620 little bit in

00:32:48.040 Whistler,

00:32:48.520 B.C., and

00:32:49.640 every half

00:32:51.580 hour, every

00:32:52.680 hour, a

00:32:53.720 mighty train

00:32:54.960 rolls through

00:32:55.800 this beautiful

00:32:56.380 little tourist

00:32:57.000 town of

00:32:57.860 White Rock

00:32:58.340 and it has

00:32:59.380 only one

00:33:00.040 thing on

00:33:00.580 it, coal.

00:33:01.880 And it's

00:33:02.260 Warren Buffett's

00:33:03.280 trains.

00:33:03.740 I always note

00:33:04.360 them.

00:33:04.560 I say,

00:33:04.720 there's Warren

00:33:05.200 Buffett.

00:33:05.940 And it's

00:33:06.500 bringing coal

00:33:07.540 from America

00:33:09.340 to export

00:33:11.160 through Canada.

00:33:12.940 But there

00:33:13.760 was something

00:33:14.280 I did not

00:33:15.140 know about

00:33:16.660 that mighty

00:33:17.120 marine terminal

00:33:17.760 and these

00:33:18.340 mighty trains

00:33:19.120 and the

00:33:19.420 coal they're

00:33:19.760 in until I

00:33:20.740 read Lorne

00:33:21.120 Gunter's

00:33:21.480 column in

00:33:21.860 The Edmonton

00:33:22.260 Sun.

00:33:22.560 And he joins

00:33:22.940 us now to

00:33:23.340 talk about

00:33:23.760 it.

00:33:24.860 Lorne, thanks

00:33:25.180 for being

00:33:25.480 here.

00:33:26.300 Can I read

00:33:26.780 your headline?

00:33:27.300 I want you

00:33:27.580 to dig into

00:33:28.020 it.

00:33:28.840 Trade war

00:33:29.500 reveals

00:33:29.960 environmental 0.67

00:33:30.500 hypocrisy.

00:33:31.580 I know 0.76

00:33:32.260 those trains

00:33:32.980 well and

00:33:33.520 it's fun to

00:33:34.340 show kids

00:33:34.860 trains and

00:33:35.620 I always fly

00:33:36.240 over and I

00:33:37.140 know about

00:33:37.760 the coal.

00:33:38.860 But I

00:33:39.220 didn't know

00:33:39.840 the fact you

00:33:40.580 divined about

00:33:41.220 them.

00:33:41.440 Tell us about

00:33:41.940 it.

00:33:41.960 Well, and

00:33:42.280 anybody who's

00:33:43.220 ridden the

00:33:44.200 ferry that

00:33:45.100 goes out of

00:33:45.620 Swanson to

00:33:46.640 Vancouver

00:33:47.400 Island knows

00:33:48.980 that terminal

00:33:51.180 because it's

00:33:51.700 just north of

00:33:52.420 where you

00:33:52.840 drive your

00:33:53.900 car on the

00:33:54.360 ferry.

00:33:54.860 The next

00:33:55.160 place north

00:33:55.800 is this

00:33:56.220 enormous

00:33:56.820 coal harbor

00:33:58.820 or coal

00:33:59.240 port that

00:33:59.720 used to be

00:34:00.280 called

00:34:00.700 Roberts Bank.

00:34:02.100 They now

00:34:02.340 call it

00:34:02.680 West Shore

00:34:02.980 Terminal.

00:34:03.880 And what

00:34:04.880 happens there

00:34:05.680 is it's the

00:34:06.560 largest coal

00:34:07.880 terminal on

00:34:08.700 the West

00:34:09.100 Coast, Canada

00:34:09.940 or the United

00:34:10.540 States.

00:34:10.860 It's enormous.

00:34:11.540 It ships

00:34:12.340 more than

00:34:13.200 30 metric

00:34:14.100 tons, 30

00:34:15.600 million metric

00:34:16.760 tons a year

00:34:17.820 of coal, mostly

00:34:18.980 destined for

00:34:19.660 China.

00:34:20.700 And what I

00:34:21.740 didn't realize

00:34:22.340 until I started

00:34:22.880 digging around

00:34:23.600 is that almost

00:34:24.460 a third of

00:34:25.300 that coal, so

00:34:26.280 about 11

00:34:27.040 million metric

00:34:28.500 tons a year,

00:34:29.500 comes from

00:34:30.380 mostly Wyoming

00:34:31.360 and Montana.

00:34:32.180 It's American

00:34:32.740 coal.

00:34:33.220 A third of the

00:34:33.720 coal that goes

00:34:34.200 out of West

00:34:34.840 Shore is 0.66

00:34:35.720 American coal.

00:34:36.700 coal, it

00:34:37.000 comes from

00:34:37.560 Wyoming and

00:34:38.380 Montana for

00:34:39.060 the most

00:34:39.400 part, and

00:34:40.840 it ships

00:34:41.460 through the

00:34:42.860 port of

00:34:43.360 Vancouver,

00:34:44.260 making Vancouver

00:34:45.700 the largest

00:34:46.660 export terminal

00:34:49.320 for American

00:34:50.920 coal on the

00:34:52.140 West Coast.

00:34:52.640 It beats out

00:34:53.100 any American

00:34:53.920 terminal there

00:34:54.560 is.

00:34:54.920 More American

00:34:55.740 coal, one

00:34:56.400 third the

00:34:56.840 entire American

00:34:57.800 export of

00:34:58.940 coal goes out

00:34:59.860 of Vancouver

00:35:00.480 and not a

00:35:02.000 single lump of

00:35:02.900 it is subject

00:35:03.720 to the carbon

00:35:04.240 tech.

00:35:04.460 Well, that

00:35:05.060 is the

00:35:05.540 amazing part.

00:35:07.320 I mean, I'm

00:35:08.800 against carbon

00:35:09.300 tax, I know

00:35:09.780 you're against

00:35:10.120 the carbon

00:35:10.460 tax too, but

00:35:11.840 I think the

00:35:14.080 point here, the

00:35:14.620 incredible point

00:35:15.260 here is Alberta

00:35:16.960 is not allowed

00:35:18.020 to export its

00:35:18.900 oil, but

00:35:20.540 America is

00:35:21.300 allowed to

00:35:21.740 export its

00:35:22.380 coal, which

00:35:22.820 is even more

00:35:23.320 carbon intensive

00:35:24.380 and God

00:35:24.800 bless it, I'm

00:35:25.320 a pro-coal

00:35:25.780 guy, but you 0.96

00:35:27.100 don't hear a

00:35:27.740 peep from

00:35:28.220 Catherine McKenna

00:35:29.260 or John

00:35:30.880 Horgan or

00:35:31.700 Justin Trudeau

00:35:32.660 about carbon

00:35:34.040 taxing that

00:35:34.960 coal import

00:35:35.780 and export,

00:35:36.620 not a peep.

00:35:37.860 How come?

00:35:38.380 I am delighted

00:35:39.300 that Vancouver

00:35:40.060 is the biggest

00:35:40.860 export terminal

00:35:41.980 for American

00:35:42.720 coal on the

00:35:43.760 West Coast.

00:35:44.320 I think that's

00:35:44.780 great.

00:35:45.220 It's good

00:35:45.700 business.

00:35:46.320 Think of the

00:35:47.280 number of

00:35:47.740 jobs in the

00:35:49.020 lower mainland

00:35:49.680 that are

00:35:50.120 dependent on

00:35:50.720 the fact that

00:35:51.240 we have this

00:35:52.540 11 million

00:35:53.460 metric tons

00:35:54.280 of US coal

00:35:55.520 going through

00:35:56.120 one of our

00:35:56.980 ports.

00:35:58.260 And think

00:35:58.740 about the

00:35:59.100 leverage that

00:35:59.640 gives us

00:36:00.200 when we have

00:36:00.960 a trade war.

00:36:01.680 I'm not big

00:36:02.440 on the trade

00:36:02.980 war.

00:36:03.100 I don't want

00:36:03.920 to have a

00:36:04.420 trade war

00:36:04.780 with the

00:36:05.040 United States.

00:36:05.740 I understand

00:36:06.500 some of their

00:36:07.260 concerns about

00:36:08.220 supply managed

00:36:09.120 agriculture and

00:36:09.940 why they would

00:36:10.500 like us to

00:36:11.300 change that.

00:36:12.080 I got a whole

00:36:12.700 bunch of

00:36:13.140 different views

00:36:13.880 on the trade

00:36:14.620 war.

00:36:15.060 But I do

00:36:17.020 like the fact

00:36:17.700 that when

00:36:18.440 things are

00:36:18.940 going well,

00:36:19.680 we are a

00:36:20.460 big exporter

00:36:21.560 of American

00:36:22.260 coal.

00:36:22.840 But why is

00:36:24.420 it that

00:36:25.460 Alberta oil,

00:36:26.720 every ounce

00:36:27.900 of it,

00:36:28.700 has to be

00:36:29.320 subject to

00:36:29.900 this carbon

00:36:30.520 tax.

00:36:31.220 Every ounce

00:36:32.360 of it has

00:36:32.820 to be

00:36:33.140 delayed because

00:36:34.020 of the

00:36:34.480 BC government's

00:36:35.400 green agenda.

00:36:37.220 And yet the

00:36:37.680 BC government

00:36:38.780 allows 11

00:36:40.420 million metric

00:36:41.320 tons of

00:36:42.340 US coal to

00:36:43.980 be shipped

00:36:44.400 out of

00:36:44.740 Vancouver.

00:36:45.480 It takes

00:36:45.860 its taxes

00:36:46.940 off the

00:36:47.440 terminal and

00:36:49.260 earns a fair

00:36:51.080 amount of

00:36:51.400 money off of

00:36:51.960 it, but

00:36:52.980 doesn't subject

00:36:53.680 it to BC's

00:36:54.600 carbon tax and

00:36:55.780 doesn't have

00:36:56.400 any protests,

00:36:58.000 any qualms

00:36:59.500 or reservations.

00:37:00.220 They're not

00:37:00.520 going to court

00:37:01.280 to stop the

00:37:02.400 American coal

00:37:03.140 from coming

00:37:03.680 through the

00:37:04.040 way they're

00:37:04.440 going to

00:37:04.920 court to

00:37:05.620 stop Alberta

00:37:06.400 bitumen and

00:37:07.380 oil from

00:37:07.860 coming through.

00:37:08.500 The hypocrisy 0.66

00:37:09.420 of it just 0.64

00:37:10.160 staggered me.

00:37:11.120 You know,

00:37:11.960 when you have

00:37:12.820 little kids,

00:37:13.900 trains are fun,

00:37:14.860 you can show

00:37:15.400 the trains,

00:37:16.240 but I don't

00:37:16.960 know if you

00:37:17.200 know White Rock

00:37:17.760 and we'll show

00:37:18.300 an image of

00:37:18.740 the main

00:37:18.980 street here.

00:37:19.900 White Rock

00:37:20.160 is such a

00:37:20.580 pretty little

00:37:20.920 town and

00:37:21.840 you have all

00:37:22.240 these little

00:37:22.560 fish and chip

00:37:23.080 shops and

00:37:23.760 ice cream

00:37:24.480 parlors and

00:37:25.220 it's right on

00:37:25.640 this gorgeous

00:37:26.220 grid.

00:37:26.540 And then

00:37:27.140 every half

00:37:27.940 hour,

00:37:28.280 this thundering

00:37:29.700 train comes

00:37:30.600 through and

00:37:31.420 everything sort

00:37:32.040 of stops and

00:37:32.560 the trains

00:37:32.920 come through.

00:37:33.860 And again,

00:37:34.700 I'm not against

00:37:35.260 that and I'm

00:37:36.080 pro coal and

00:37:36.840 pro rail,

00:37:37.600 but I know

00:37:38.880 for a fact that

00:37:39.620 pipelines are

00:37:40.420 underground,

00:37:41.740 they're completely

00:37:42.440 silent,

00:37:43.720 they never

00:37:44.340 derail,

00:37:45.480 no one,

00:37:46.100 God forbid,

00:37:46.620 has ever been

00:37:47.080 run over by

00:37:48.180 a train,

00:37:50.320 sorry,

00:37:50.740 by a pipeline

00:37:51.640 on the train.

00:37:53.240 And again,

00:37:53.860 I'm not against

00:37:54.440 this coal,

00:37:55.040 but for

00:37:55.800 British Columbians

00:37:56.500 who worry about

00:37:57.020 noise pollution,

00:37:58.340 the pollution

00:37:58.780 from the

00:37:59.100 emissions of

00:37:59.580 the train,

00:38:00.260 derailments,

00:38:01.320 carbon,

00:38:01.740 and I'm

00:38:02.320 pro train,

00:38:03.120 pro coal,

00:38:03.720 all that,

00:38:04.700 but it

00:38:06.160 takes an

00:38:06.980 enormous effort

00:38:07.980 to pretend

00:38:09.080 a silent

00:38:10.220 underground safe

00:38:11.200 pipeline is

00:38:12.540 more offensive

00:38:13.200 in any way

00:38:14.820 to an American

00:38:16.220 coal train

00:38:16.940 owned by

00:38:17.520 Warren Buffett

00:38:18.220 blazing through

00:38:19.000 it 10 times

00:38:19.840 a day.

00:38:20.200 this is

00:38:21.380 pack mentality

00:38:22.660 though,

00:38:22.900 right?

00:38:23.160 You get

00:38:23.600 all these

00:38:24.120 people together

00:38:24.900 on Twitter

00:38:25.620 and other

00:38:26.320 social media

00:38:27.120 platforms

00:38:27.800 and they

00:38:28.440 get all

00:38:28.960 twisted out

00:38:29.860 of shape

00:38:30.400 about oil

00:38:31.300 and how

00:38:31.700 bad it

00:38:32.320 is and

00:38:32.660 how awful

00:38:33.180 for the

00:38:33.440 environment.

00:38:34.340 None of

00:38:34.920 the stuff

00:38:35.300 that they're

00:38:35.660 achieving,

00:38:36.240 let's say

00:38:36.840 they stop

00:38:37.320 every new

00:38:38.360 pipeline from

00:38:38.940 being built

00:38:39.460 out of

00:38:40.100 Canada to

00:38:41.100 anywhere on

00:38:42.360 the coast,

00:38:43.080 from Alberta

00:38:43.900 to anywhere,

00:38:44.840 New Brunswick,

00:38:45.900 Vancouver,

00:38:47.000 the Yukon,

00:38:47.580 who cares?

00:38:47.940 They stop

00:38:48.820 all of them.

00:38:50.180 Somebody else

00:38:51.160 will get that

00:38:52.180 oil or

00:38:53.120 replace it

00:38:53.900 with oil

00:38:54.300 from somewhere

00:38:54.920 else and

00:38:55.520 the same

00:38:56.200 amount of

00:38:56.960 oil,

00:38:57.800 perhaps with

00:38:58.420 more emissions,

00:38:59.440 certainly with

00:38:59.980 no fewer

00:39:00.900 emissions,

00:39:01.600 will get

00:39:02.180 used anyway.

00:39:04.360 They are not,

00:39:05.060 that's the other

00:39:06.320 thing about this

00:39:06.960 coal tidbit

00:39:08.420 that I found

00:39:09.080 that strikes me.

00:39:10.120 So, you know,

00:39:10.800 we could stop

00:39:11.920 all of our

00:39:12.500 oil shipments.

00:39:13.100 We're still

00:39:13.400 shipping coal.

00:39:14.320 Coal is still

00:39:15.100 going to be used.

00:39:15.440 We could stop

00:39:15.820 all our coal

00:39:16.460 shipments.

00:39:17.040 We're still

00:39:17.460 going to let

00:39:17.840 somebody else

00:39:18.260 mine the coal.

00:39:19.180 The market

00:39:20.180 will be

00:39:20.820 satisfied

00:39:21.380 whether we're

00:39:22.140 satisfying it

00:39:23.040 or not.

00:39:23.920 And the

00:39:24.620 emissions will

00:39:25.360 be produced

00:39:26.140 whether we're

00:39:26.880 producing them

00:39:27.560 or contributing

00:39:28.080 to the production

00:39:28.800 or not.

00:39:29.640 And so,

00:39:30.060 what we're

00:39:30.500 doing is

00:39:30.980 beggaring

00:39:31.480 ourselves

00:39:32.080 just for

00:39:33.580 the moral

00:39:34.640 superiority

00:39:35.500 it gives us.

00:39:36.180 Not for

00:39:36.620 any environmental

00:39:37.940 benefit

00:39:38.880 whatsoever,

00:39:39.880 but simply

00:39:40.560 so we can

00:39:41.180 smugly say,

00:39:42.480 look how

00:39:43.240 good we are.

00:39:44.440 Yeah.

00:39:44.900 Lauren,

00:39:45.420 you've been

00:39:46.100 generous with

00:39:46.540 your time,

00:39:46.840 but I want

00:39:47.100 to throw

00:39:47.340 one more

00:39:47.700 thing at

00:39:48.140 you because

00:39:48.440 you remind

00:39:48.920 me of

00:39:49.860 what finally

00:39:50.560 killed the

00:39:51.120 Energy East

00:39:51.680 pipeline.

00:39:52.680 Energy East

00:39:53.140 was proposed

00:39:53.600 by TransCanada.

00:39:54.620 It was my

00:39:55.020 favorite pipeline

00:39:55.760 of them all,

00:39:56.220 I'll be honest.

00:39:56.800 I mean,

00:39:56.940 I like our pipelines,

00:39:57.800 but I liked it

00:39:58.560 because it had

00:39:58.980 a national unity

00:39:59.720 feeling.

00:40:00.880 You know,

00:40:01.440 Alberta will

00:40:02.240 supply New

00:40:02.800 Brunswick and

00:40:03.700 Quebec and

00:40:04.660 lots of jobs

00:40:05.580 and 15.7

00:40:06.760 billion in

00:40:07.760 construction.

00:40:08.680 I just felt

00:40:09.200 great about it.

00:40:10.020 and Trudeau

00:40:14.940 killed it by

00:40:15.620 adding a new

00:40:16.640 condition halfway

00:40:17.520 through the

00:40:17.840 application,

00:40:18.440 which was that

00:40:19.440 TransCanada now

00:40:20.760 had to be

00:40:21.220 responsible for

00:40:22.000 the carbon

00:40:22.440 emissions of

00:40:23.000 the oil that

00:40:24.200 would be carried

00:40:24.760 within the

00:40:25.160 pipeline.

00:40:26.720 Just a bizarre

00:40:28.040 thing.

00:40:29.040 And I remember

00:40:29.720 talking to someone

00:40:30.380 from TransCanada

00:40:31.140 who pointed out

00:40:31.780 oil that's coming

00:40:33.780 to that same

00:40:34.460 New Brunswick

00:40:35.140 refinery now,

00:40:36.160 St. John's,

00:40:36.740 St. John,

00:40:38.560 New Brunswick,

00:40:39.040 the largest

00:40:39.440 refinery in all

00:40:40.080 of Canada.

00:40:40.480 It's not in

00:40:40.760 Alberta,

00:40:41.140 folks.

00:40:41.400 It's in New

00:40:42.120 Brunswick.

00:40:42.820 Coming from

00:40:43.500 Saudi and

00:40:44.080 other places,

00:40:44.940 it would not

00:40:46.180 be subject to

00:40:47.160 emissions reviews

00:40:48.220 by Trudeau.

00:40:49.360 So this is a

00:40:50.900 true apples to

00:40:51.840 apples comparison

00:40:52.640 because coal and

00:40:54.240 oil, they're

00:40:54.860 different.

00:40:55.880 But this was an

00:40:56.760 exact comparison,

00:40:57.840 Lorne.

00:40:58.080 You had proposed

00:40:59.180 oil from Alberta

00:41:00.520 through a Canadian

00:41:01.840 pipeline versus

00:41:03.640 oil from Saudi

00:41:04.780 Arabia through a 0.98

00:41:05.440 tanker.

00:41:05.940 Both go into

00:41:06.680 the same

00:41:07.040 customer, the

00:41:07.680 St. John,

00:41:08.400 New Brunswick

00:41:08.840 refinery.

00:41:10.120 Only the

00:41:10.860 Energy East

00:41:12.200 pipeline would

00:41:12.780 be subject to

00:41:13.460 that stringent

00:41:14.260 criticism and

00:41:16.020 inspection.

00:41:16.640 No OPEC oil.

00:41:17.580 To me, that was

00:41:18.320 the utter proof of

00:41:19.860 the moral bankruptcy

00:41:20.620 of Trudeau's views

00:41:21.880 on energy.

00:41:22.460 What do you

00:41:22.660 think?

00:41:22.760 Absolutely.

00:41:23.640 Absolutely.

00:41:24.180 You know, the

00:41:24.520 other thing that

00:41:24.880 bothered me about

00:41:25.380 the Energy East

00:41:26.000 cancellation was

00:41:26.800 Quebec said,

00:41:27.680 well, we're not

00:41:28.520 going to stand

00:41:29.680 for this because

00:41:30.300 there will be

00:41:31.000 too few Quebec 1.00

00:41:32.700 jobs produced.

00:41:33.760 Well, they could

00:41:34.340 have had much of

00:41:35.780 the oil in that

00:41:36.960 pipeline in

00:41:38.180 Quebec to

00:41:39.040 refine or deal

00:41:40.560 with however they

00:41:41.160 wanted to.

00:41:41.800 But they said,

00:41:42.320 no, no, no, we're

00:41:42.800 not going to do

00:41:43.340 that.

00:41:43.740 And then they

00:41:44.960 said, well, it's

00:41:45.540 not going to

00:41:45.740 produce any jobs

00:41:46.460 here.

00:41:46.940 Well, you guys

00:41:48.140 had just canceled

00:41:49.020 the chance you

00:41:49.660 had to produce

00:41:50.300 jobs.

00:41:50.500 It was their own 0.89

00:41:51.900 decision not to

00:41:52.740 have jobs from

00:41:53.520 the oil in that

00:41:54.360 pipeline.

00:41:55.000 And then they

00:41:55.380 used that as

00:41:56.000 the excuse to

00:41:56.620 cancel the pipeline.

00:41:57.140 That's a great

00:41:57.620 point.

00:41:58.000 There was going

00:41:58.540 to be a facility

00:41:59.220 at Cacauna,

00:42:00.520 if I'm pronouncing

00:42:01.220 it right.

00:42:02.040 And they said,

00:42:02.420 oh, but the

00:42:02.780 belugas, the 0.96

00:42:03.640 beluga whales,

00:42:04.120 of course, they

00:42:04.520 dumped billions

00:42:05.540 of liters of

00:42:06.420 untreated

00:42:07.360 sues.

00:42:07.720 Well, they found

00:42:07.860 all those right

00:42:08.520 whales out there

00:42:09.160 with something.

00:42:09.680 I don't know what

00:42:10.100 it is that they're

00:42:10.620 doing, but, you

00:42:11.500 know, they're

00:42:11.840 certainly not

00:42:12.480 environmentally

00:42:13.120 conscious.

00:42:14.420 Yeah, this is so

00:42:15.200 frustrating.

00:42:16.280 Well, Lauren, I'm

00:42:17.080 really glad you

00:42:17.720 wrote that article

00:42:18.280 because sometimes I

00:42:20.080 feel like I know

00:42:20.660 the facts in this

00:42:21.520 file, but there's

00:42:22.020 always something

00:42:22.480 extra to learn.

00:42:23.520 Yeah, there's

00:42:24.440 always something

00:42:24.900 different.

00:42:25.300 And I'm really

00:42:26.280 glad to know that

00:42:26.980 that's just another

00:42:27.760 proof point that

00:42:28.840 this is not actually

00:42:29.760 about saving the

00:42:31.220 earth or anything.

00:42:32.740 This is political

00:42:33.920 bigotry against

00:42:34.860 Alberta and

00:42:35.500 against Alberta

00:42:36.100 oil, and I

00:42:37.020 appreciate you

00:42:37.500 shining a light

00:42:38.000 on it.

00:42:38.920 Yeah, you bet.

00:42:39.740 All right, there's

00:42:40.180 our friend Lauren

00:42:40.640 Gontra.

00:42:40.880 Great to see you

00:42:41.440 again, my friend.

00:42:42.640 The article, for

00:42:43.280 those who haven't

00:42:43.800 read it, it's in

00:42:44.500 the Edmonton Sun.

00:42:45.440 It's called Trade

00:42:46.040 War Reveals

00:42:47.060 Environmental

00:42:47.700 Hypocrisy.

00:42:48.960 Give it a read.

00:42:49.580 Very interesting.

00:42:50.700 All right, stay

00:42:51.220 with us.

00:42:51.860 More Ahead on the

00:42:52.500 Rebel.

00:42:52.660 Hey, welcome

00:43:04.260 back.

00:43:04.860 On my interview

00:43:05.900 yesterday with

00:43:06.720 Mark Morano from

00:43:07.600 Climate Depot,

00:43:08.260 Paul writes,

00:43:09.220 they've been

00:43:09.780 spinning the same

00:43:10.540 man-made global

00:43:11.240 warming, cooling,

00:43:12.240 climate change

00:43:12.800 doomsday scenarios

00:43:13.580 since at least

00:43:14.400 the 1970s.

00:43:15.200 They just keep

00:43:16.240 redating them and

00:43:17.380 recycling them over

00:43:18.240 and over again.

00:43:19.040 Their solutions

00:43:19.560 never line up with

00:43:20.240 the problems they're

00:43:20.880 supposed to be

00:43:21.520 dealing with but

00:43:22.180 always cost a

00:43:23.460 fortune.

00:43:25.100 Yeah, and it's

00:43:25.820 so funny how the

00:43:26.560 people involved

00:43:27.580 with these

00:43:28.200 regulations and

00:43:29.400 policies always

00:43:30.020 seem to be

00:43:30.500 connected pretty

00:43:31.720 closely to the

00:43:32.480 folks getting

00:43:32.900 the massive

00:43:33.540 subsidies.

00:43:34.760 I'll never forget

00:43:35.680 the fact that the

00:43:36.440 president of the

00:43:37.060 federal and Ontario

00:43:38.060 liberal parties

00:43:38.800 just happened to

00:43:41.520 be the president

00:43:42.080 of a major

00:43:42.620 wind turbine

00:43:43.240 company.

00:43:44.180 It's a coincidence,

00:43:45.200 I'm sure.

00:43:46.300 Billy writes,

00:43:47.640 I just hope Ford

00:43:48.500 has the stones to

00:43:49.580 stand up for the

00:43:50.060 MSM and the

00:43:50.800 globalist cabal

00:43:51.500 behind them when

00:43:52.660 they start attacking

00:43:53.340 him and his

00:43:53.920 family.

00:43:55.160 Oh, you're exactly

00:43:55.860 right.

00:43:56.180 There's so many

00:43:56.720 things that Doug

00:43:57.520 Ford is challenging.

00:43:59.560 He's challenging

00:44:00.180 the open borders

00:44:01.060 policy of Justin

00:44:02.140 Trudeau.

00:44:02.720 He's challenging

00:44:03.300 cap and trade and

00:44:04.140 global warming and

00:44:04.800 carbon taxes.

00:44:05.820 Those are the two

00:44:06.480 favorite things for

00:44:07.300 the globalists.

00:44:07.960 I mean, that's, I

00:44:09.160 don't think Doug

00:44:09.820 Ford uses the

00:44:10.540 language globalist

00:44:11.500 or United Nations,

00:44:12.360 but he's taking

00:44:12.760 them on, isn't

00:44:13.220 he?

00:44:14.660 Bruce writes,

00:44:16.080 we conservatives

00:44:16.940 give up too

00:44:17.560 quickly.

00:44:18.240 How did the

00:44:18.620 climate pushers get

00:44:19.400 so much power?

00:44:20.320 They just kept

00:44:21.080 on pushing.

00:44:22.900 Well, that's the

00:44:23.560 thing.

00:44:23.900 I mean, the left

00:44:24.340 is absolutely

00:44:25.120 relentless.

00:44:26.220 They call it the

00:44:26.760 long march through

00:44:27.620 the institutions.

00:44:28.540 Conservatives are

00:44:29.220 too busy living

00:44:30.400 normal lives,

00:44:31.100 doing unpolitical

00:44:32.420 things, working.

00:44:35.100 Whereas the left

00:44:35.860 has this perpetual

00:44:36.760 activist class,

00:44:38.460 much of it

00:44:39.120 subsides.

00:44:39.760 Now, the news

00:44:40.520 out of the United

00:44:40.940 States last week

00:44:41.840 was very interesting.

00:44:42.860 There was a Supreme

00:44:43.440 Court case that

00:44:44.520 said workers can no

00:44:45.960 longer be compelled

00:44:47.080 to make contributions

00:44:48.880 to a union that

00:44:50.080 uses their money

00:44:50.740 politically.

00:44:51.620 I think that's

00:44:52.160 going to massively

00:44:53.000 defund the left

00:44:54.060 because whether it

00:44:55.220 was the subsidy

00:44:55.960 of taxpayers subsidizing

00:44:57.780 the professor class

00:44:59.060 or the subsidies

00:45:00.340 of private sector

00:45:01.220 workers or government

00:45:02.000 sector workers forced

00:45:03.420 to subsidize union

00:45:04.380 bosses, a lot of

00:45:05.520 the leftist support

00:45:06.500 is artificially

00:45:07.600 sponsored by

00:45:09.340 severely normal

00:45:10.040 taxpayers.

00:45:10.840 In the States,

00:45:11.720 that just took a

00:45:12.480 hit.

00:45:13.140 Wouldn't it be nice 0.84

00:45:13.740 if Canadians have

00:45:15.040 that same freedom

00:45:15.880 of choice?

00:45:16.720 Well, that's our

00:45:17.240 show for today.

00:45:17.820 It's great to be

00:45:18.440 back in Canada.

00:45:19.320 We were away for

00:45:19.960 10 days with the

00:45:21.080 Rebel Israel,

00:45:21.620 a great trip.

00:45:22.380 I'm sure that you've

00:45:23.720 had a chance to see

00:45:24.500 some of the clips

00:45:25.060 that we played

00:45:25.560 over the last week.

00:45:27.160 I look forward to

00:45:27.920 being here for a

00:45:28.460 little while.

00:45:29.140 That's enough travel

00:45:29.780 for me.

00:45:30.740 Until we return on

00:45:32.060 Monday, please enjoy

00:45:33.060 our YouTube videos.

00:45:34.440 Until then, good

00:45:35.980 night and keep

00:45:37.060 fighting for freedom.

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Rebel News Podcast - July 07, 2018

“Male feminist Justin Trudeau is just as handsy as Bill Clinton was”

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