Manitoba campaign insanity (GUEST: Marty Gold)
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In the latest episode of The Gunn Show, independent journalist Marty Gould joins host Sheila Gunn-Reed to discuss Justin Trudeau's apology tour to his hometown of Winnipeg, Canada, and what it was like to have a front row seat to one of the worst days of Justin Trudeau s life.
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Justin Trudeau blames us all for his little racism problem in an appearance in Winnipeg.
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Now, what was it like to stand in the front row of one of the worst days of Justin Trudeau's life?
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We'll find out today. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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It is something absolutely unacceptable to do. And I appreciate calling it makeup, but it was
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blackface. And that is just not right. It is something that people who live with the kind of
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discrimination that far too many people do because of the color of their skin or their history or their
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origins or their language or their religion face on a regular basis. And I didn't see that from the
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layers of privilege that I have. And for that, I am deeply sorry.
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That friends is a clip from Justin Trudeau's never-ending apology tour as more and more and
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I guess more images of him performing blackface come out requiring more and more and while more
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explanations and more and more and more excuses. Apparently, the latest excuse for dressing up in
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blackface so many times he can't even keep track anymore is that Justin Trudeau was just too rich to
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know better and just too dumb to care, if I'm paraphrasing him correctly, and I'm pretty sure I am.
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Now, that latest groveling session where Trudeau claims to be taking responsibility for his actions,
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but at the same time is also facing absolutely no real consequences for his atrocious behavior,
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took place in Winnipeg. Now, if you haven't seen, our friend Andrew Lawton from the True North Centre
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has been prohibited from going on the Liberal media bus by the Liberal Party. You see, Andrew's just not
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Liberal approved. So, Andrew's currently chasing Justin Trudeau and his gaggle of sycophantic journalists,
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journalists who haven't uttered a word in defense of Andrew's right to report, all across the country.
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There are no skeptical journalists in the media bus. So, my guest tonight actually had a front row seat
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to that Winnipeg Sobfest, and I wanted to have him on the show because he's one of the few non-Liberal
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approved journalists to get front row access to Trudeau at all in this election campaign. So,
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joining me tonight to discuss what it was like to have delicious courtside seats for one of the worst
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days of Justin Trudeau's life, the atrocious CBC coverage during the recent Manitoba election,
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and the growing scourge of anti-Semitism allowed to fester in Canada's progressive parties is
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independent journalist Marty Gould from the J.ca in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon.
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Joining me now to talk about the federal election, Justin Trudeau's whistle-stop visit to his town,
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and a whole host of other issues happening in the federal election, and a little bit about the
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Israeli election, because I'm not sure anybody really understands it, is independent Winnipeg-based
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journalist Marty Gould. Hey, Marty, thanks for joining me.
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Let's start off with the Manitoba election. That's come and went. I think your election predictions
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were pretty close, but CBC was pretty darn terrible during that election campaign, I suppose the way
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CBC started out, like stumbled out of the gate by, as we discussed my previous appearance,
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by running with a poll without taking two seconds to actually look at anything beyond the so-called
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polling results. There was no background information about the polling company at all on the website.
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It is an unknown player in the polling game. The reporter, Bryce Hoy, evidently could not wait to get
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it up, scoop everybody on a Friday afternoon. By Saturday morning, Dougal Lamont and the Liberal Party
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had pointed out that among other things that made this poll showing the NDP and the Conservatives neck
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and neck at 31 percent, that anybody scratching the surface would realize there was deep connections
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between the NDP and the pollster, who then had to say, yeah, these results, I got to look at them.
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And two days later, the results from northern Manitoba were deemed to have been overweighted.
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And lo and behold, the poll results were very close to what the final result was in terms of where
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everybody rested. I don't recall CBC ever explaining how they went with a poll that was—and this could
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have been a kid in grade six, could have put a poll out with a fancy website, and because it showed
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Wob Canoo in a horse race with Brian Pallister, they would have run it. Didn't see any explanation
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for it, didn't see any apology for it. And then after the campaign, CBC—I mean, as the votes were
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still being counted, really, they outdid themselves by proclaiming a particular MLA from the NDP
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as Manitoba's first elected black member of the legislature. Uzoma Azagwara is a darling of the
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left-wing media in Winnipeg. She is the disciple, a disciple, of Nahanni Fontaine. And she's got a great
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presence. I attended one of the town halls I attended. She was a speaker on behalf of the NDP.
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And, you know, she is the source of probably the best joke that came out of the end of the campaign,
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where on Twitter someone noted that with her election that Brian Pallister was now the second
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best basketball player at the legislature. She is—was not only a star with the Westman around
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2004, 5-6, the U of W, but was on Canada's national team. That was—as Scott Taylor, my old friend and
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colleague said, that wins Twitter today, which was—which it did. However, what lost Twitter was the way CBC
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then, like, immediately started to portray her election. They ran a headline that she made
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history as the first black MLA elected to the Manitoba legislature. I—within—you're not—I see
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this, and right away I'm going, what are you talking about? What about Audrey Gordon? Like, she's not the
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first. This isn't a race to count the ballots. Somebody being declared first is irrelevant in the
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annals of history. This has—it's not like which twin was born first. Yeah.
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It's completely irrelevant which news desk declared somebody elected before somebody else.
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CBC didn't give a crap. They saw the opportunity to glorify, uh, Uzoma again, uh, and proclaim her the
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first elected, uh, black legislator. Within 10 minutes of me tweeting, hey, that's not right,
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because they're all sworn in at the same time, which actually will be the day that this airs,
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on the 25th of September. So the headline was changed to,
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Trio of Black MLAs Make History by Winning Seats in the Legislature. But even then,
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they couldn't help themselves. And in the story that they, uh, followed that one with,
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where they talked about, uh, uh, Asaguara, uh, a colleague, Jamie Moses, knocked off the only
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Conservative cabinet minister to lose, Colleen Mayer, Métis, a member of the Métis Nation,
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uh, was minister of, I think, Crown Services. Colleen was knocked off in St. Vitale, which has
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been traditionally an NDP riding for the most part. It's a battleground every time. And, uh, Audrey Gordon.
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So now the follow-up story is, let's meet our 13 rookie MLAs. And CBC leads off,
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of course, with their favorite basketball player. Now, I sent you the, like, word for word,
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what was written. And they did, uh, they wrote this up in a way where they talked about, uh,
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she's a nurse, a member of a women's health clinic boards. They named the place. Experience in, uh,
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working with addictions and poverty, uh, history as an athlete, the teams that she made mentors,
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young athletes, first black, one of the first black MLAs, uh, first black queer MLA, because
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she's got to be first at something, but she can't be the first black anymore. So let's bring up
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something completely irrelevant. Right. Completely irrelevant to the credentials of anybody running
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for public office is who or what they sleep with. Uh, first black queer MLA building on previous
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community work with the queer people of color Winnipeg. So they've established her woke credentials
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out the yin yang, right? Yeah. They take three paragraphs quoting her on different matters,
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in particular, this, uh, uh, reflecting our communities, uh, and that she founded this, uh,
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this, uh, queer, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, activist group, I guess is what it's called.
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All right. And then they mentioned she was one of their top, uh, put CBC top 40 under 40 finalists.
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So they put her over seven or eight different ways, four paragraphs quoting her. Now they go to
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Audrey Gordon, conservative that was, uh, elected in, uh, Southdale, pretty much adjacent to St.
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Patel and Audrey's run before, uh, I think she ran provincially and federally and lost previously.
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And they go through her background, 25 years experience working in the public sector,
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worked for the regional health care, uh, uh, the Winnipeg regional health authority as director
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of the home care pro, uh, program, a masters of this, a bachelor of arts certified in counseling,
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served on a number of education, health boards, and as a volunteer at her local church.
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Now that doesn't have nearly the detail that you heard about the NDP candidate. Uh, and I guess if
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Audrey Gordon, uh, was not heterosexually married for 33 years, but was a queer person,
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I guess they'd have to come up with some other way of being the NDP MLA first at black and something
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and something. So I went to the candidate website going, you know, that's if that might be grade 12
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level journalism about it, about a candidate might be okay. Senior high Audrey in the first paragraph,
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extensive public service experience, active community volunteer, and a small business owner.
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Now you would think that somebody being a business owner is significant in their entry into government,
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at least for people that care if their elected officials know anything about business.
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She's not just experienced in, uh, in the public sector. Director of strategic initiatives at the
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WHA with 15,000 clients and 4,500 staff under her direction. Successfully implemented, uh, uh, projects
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for, uh, ranging from childcare, uh, to long-term care, improving the delivery of healthcare. Now,
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improving the delivery of healthcare when healthcare was the overriding issue in this Manitoba election,
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you'd think this is something that journalists go, wow, on the government benches, this is somebody
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who has the experience to tell Brian Pallister what it's like. Yep. Whoa, not to the CBC.
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Why mention actual qualifications? Now, before she got to the WHA, Audrey Gordon, special assistant to
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the minister of health, uh, assistant to the deputy minister of labor and immigration, director of the
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multiculturalism secretary. These are major jobs inside ministerial offices with access to cabinet.
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This isn't just somebody who worked in the public sector for 25 years, like she was, you know,
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stamping application forms at a welfare office. But again, the CBC, oh, they mentioned her, um, uh,
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BA degree, didn't mention she was Dean's List, left out one of her certificates in change management,
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which considering what government, what the Pallister government is doing is important that people
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understand the nature of change management. Even her volunteering was diminished. Uh, I didn't see
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anything, although I'm sure she's involved in her church. I didn't see anything about it in her,
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in this candidate write-up. They might've looked at another. She volunteers with Salome Mission.
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Salome Mission is, uh, uh, not only a homeless shelter, but as a soup kitchen, they feed people.
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They're in the midst of a capital campaign to expand to a, I think it's 300 beds, uh, for, for,
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you know, interim, uh, shelter for the homeless. People have volunteered for Salome Mission. They
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are doing it for the glory. Believe me. Now, on the other hand, there are a lot of conservatives
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that volunteer there. Maybe that's why CBC is not aware of how important it is, how significant it is.
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You're going and naming, uh, where, uh, where the NDP candidate has volunteered, uh, you know,
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women's health clinic. I mean, that has a certain status, uh, particularly among the left. Why not
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mention Salome Mission? The fact that she's volunteered with the Arthur Morrow Center for
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Peace and Justice. So to summarize, here's a candidate who is second in the list of meet your rookie
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MLAs behind their favorite. Okay. Who's a business owners worked at two ministers offices at the highest
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level, delivered programming, employing 4,500 people, had one, an extra, uh, uh, professional
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certificate, was a Dean's on the Dean's list for one of her degrees, uh, directed the multicultural
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division, which again, CBC being woke, you'd think you would make sure your audience knew that she's
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involved in not just multicultural affairs, but multicultural funding decisions, volunteers at a
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homeless shelter in a soup kitchen. They didn't get one quote from Audrey Gordon for their profile of
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her. They diminished her professional and community standing as much as they possibly could.
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They ignored the fact that all the rookie MLAs are elected 13 new faces. She is by far, by far the
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most likely to end up in a cabinet position and have actual impact on the lives of Manitobans.
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But to CBC, she's the wrong kind of black woman. Right. She's the wrong kind of rookie MLA. She's from
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a Commonwealth country. So she didn't face the, um, adjustment, the struggle that Asagwara from
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Nigeria and Jamie Moses, I don't recall where he was from. I think it might've been Nigeria too. One of
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the other NDP, the other, the third, uh, uh, uh, MLA, uh, that was elected. She's the wrong kind,
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literally. And, and, and, you know, I thought about whether to say this publicly, but I can draw
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no other conclusion. If she was an NDP candidate and elected by the NDP, we would have heard all
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sorts of things, but instead she's from a Commonwealth country in a heterosexual marriage for 33 years.
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She's churchgoing and conservative. CBC is not going to quote her. CBC is not going to tell the public
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what her, what her extensive, uh, you know, she's, she's more qualified for cabinet than the number of
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people that have been put in cabinet in this province in this century so far. And CBC, you
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know, first they, they, uh, try to, uh, elevate Asagwara by saying that she's first, uh, to being
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elected, which was not really the case and not relevant. And then they still find a way to push
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their favorite and to try to dampen down, uh, somebody from the conservative party, Audrey Gordon.
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And I saw a premier pollister greet Audrey when she came in, it was a, a, a tight race until I
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have a feeling it was the advance bowl to put her over by 500 is within about a hundred votes. Um,
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up until then against the NDP candidate, a teacher who, uh, uh, who I revealed had
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garnishment orders executed. Uh, it's amazing how, if you're in a financial advisor, you can
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lose your license for it. But if you're like on the public payroll, a teacher, Nanny Fontaine,
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for instance, in MLA had a garnishment for not paying a speeding ticket, uh, uh, Gordon beat
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Mishkowski and she was very emotional when she walked into the hall because she felt she had
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almost let the team down and Pallister. And you saw the pictures on my, on my blog. Pallister was
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comforting Audrey Gordon. Don't worry about it. I watched him talk to her like face to face,
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the respect that Brian has. Everybody respects Audrey Gordon, except for the CBC.
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You know, we saw a lot of the same things happening in the Alberta election. We had some
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highly qualified female conservative candidates. Uh, the one that comes to the top of my head is
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Ava Kyriakos. She, um, is a persecuted Christian from the Middle East, highly qualified woman.
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And she had made some comments about Islamic extremism, which makes sense since she herself
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experienced that persecution while in the Middle East. And she was, uh, basically run out of her
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ability to be a candidate. And she's the perfect kind of candidate, accomplished woman, understands the
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issues, um, a minority, if you care about those sorts of things. And yet, because she said the wrong
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things, she was excoriated by the likes of the CBC and the left. Although I, I'm repeating myself by
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making a distinction there and she wasn't able to run. She didn't say the wrong thing, but she didn't say
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the wrong things. No, she didn't. Can you imagine, can you imagine, uh, Sharansky in Israel?
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Uh, let's say you had emigrated, uh, Nathan Sharansky had emigrated to North America and started
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talking about his experience, uh, being persecuted, uh, by the Kremlin being, it's, you know, uh,
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being sentenced to a miserable, uh, barely existence, soul crushing experience in a gulag.
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And, and nowadays it would be wrong. You know, oh, don't talk about how you're persecuted as a Jew
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by, uh, communists. Give me a break. But this, this sneering at, in particular at Christian women,
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um, it's, it's, it undermines the, it undermines the willpower of the public to entrust media outlets
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that engage in that trusting them with any of our stories about what goes on in the community.
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Because when you're sneering at somebody, some people from certain religions,
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but don't do it to like everybody, if you're going to make fun of everybody, because you don't think
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that people who are religious, you know, they undermine secular society. I don't agree with it,
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but it's a, you know, it's a kind of point of view. It's fair. It's fair. At least it's fair.
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Yeah. The way I, uh, I, I'm no champion of conservative, um, I don't mean necessarily
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conservative party, but conservative Christian women, I'm no champion of it. I don't go out of
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my way looking for it or finding candidates to, you know, cover or interview or anything like that.
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But observationally, um, if this was being done to Jewish candidates who were like Jewish Orthodox
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candidates, and for all I know it has, and I just haven't caught it because maybe it happened to
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somebody in Toronto or Montreal. Jewish community would not, believe me, Jewish businesses would
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start pulling their advertising for those media outlets. If Orthodox women candidates started
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getting talked about and treated and, and, and as I said, dampened down their public image, uh,
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because of this, uh, sneering from the, the journalistic left. Uh, I, I, I feel sorry.
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It's not right. I feel sorry for people that have these beliefs that feel that they've got to go and
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then know that they're going to have to defend having them in the modern political environment.
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That is certainly not what Canada is about. And that is not the post-national state anybody would
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have, would have dreamed of that people's religion can't be worn proudly as part of who they are and
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what they bring to public life. So let's move from the first black MLAs in Manitoba to our first black
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prime minister. We would be remiss if we didn't talk about Justin Trudeau's blackface, blackface,
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blackface scandal. I think it's three times now that he's appeared in blackface that has come public.
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He can't even tell us how many more times there are out there. Um, but you were on the ground in
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Winnipeg on his blackface apology tour. Um, day one day one of the apology tour. And you were there
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when he issued that, uh, apology about how all of us need to be better because he wore blackface.
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What was that like? Yeah. Well, first of all, I don't need to be better about subjects like that.
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Thank you very much. And neither do the rest of Canadians. Yeah. Um, it was a fluke. Look,
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the whole thing's a fluke. He, uh, was already scheduled to be in Winnipeg, uh, 2 PM on the 4,
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2 PM on the Thursday. I don't know what he was going to be doing in the morning. Probably,
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you know, sticking his head into a daycare or something like that. But the major event was
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going to be an appearance at the grand mosque on Waverly in South Winnipeg. Uh, uh, Terry do goods
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writing, um, uh, if I'm remembering correctly. Uh, and of course, Jim Carr, the regional minister would
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have been there, the other candidates. Uh, but this was to shore up, uh, uh, uh, do good. Who's,
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uh, I don't know if it's neck and neck. I've, I've heard conflicting stories, but it's generally
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viewed as a, as a battle to keep that seat. It certainly was a battle for Terry to win it.
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Uh, and that was scrapped before, before he even got off the plane, the two o'clock at the grand mosque
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was scrapped. Imagine, uh, after that performance on the plane, walking into a mosque.
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And so it was scrapped. And then that morning, uh, and I was already scheduled for, uh, my annual
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physical downtown and hear the notice. And I think it actually might've come from you
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that, uh, there was an event, uh, in downtown. You know, it's, it's an area that's, you know,
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part of the greater downtown, but it's its own special area, the exchange district, just north
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of downtown. And I get out of the doctor's office and, uh, no bad news. Thank God.
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Uh, and I thought, well, uh, I guess, uh, I guess I can still kick these guys around for
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a little while still. And I get into the car and I'm two blocks from the street that it's on
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and like eight blocks north. It's like, how do I not do this? Yeah.
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Cut up the lane and go. And I'm like right there. Now the, the press release said the corner of King
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and Banatine, um, the, and this went on the mental of election too. So I'm going to make a plea here for
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all those of you that are organizing candidates, appearances, political appearances for crying out
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loud. If something is known by a colloquial name, use it. If it's not well known by the
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colloquial name, some park, then use the intersection. But like, if it had said old market square,
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I think that more people would have actually showed up because they would have understand
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that he wasn't like inside some business or warehouse or something.
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I don't think they wanted more people to show up. That's what they want. Yeah. I think they
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wanted just liberal partisans, liberal insiders there, uh, because the people are inconvenient
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right now. Well, that day they were. So I, I scoot on down there and, uh, uh, the prime minister
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was fashionably late. Uh, I was able to mingle around. I talked with Marianne Mahaychuk, who was very
00:25:51.400
glad to see me. I know that this audience might find it hard to believe, but I have a lot of
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of, uh, uh, friendly relations for decades with many of the liberal MLAs or MPs, rather,
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in Manitoba. Some of them were previously MLAs. Dan Vendell was a city councillor.
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Kevin Lamoureux, Robbie Ouellette, uh, was very helpful to me in the provincial campaign, actually.
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So I have a good relationship with the, um, almost all of the liberal MLAs, uh, MPs, rather,
00:26:17.400
in Manitoba from previous, previously knowing them. And so I was able to make the rounds and, uh,
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was introduced to David Aiken, who, uh, uh, had a good laugh, I think because of, uh, my coverage
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of, uh, the Manitoba election. That was certainly, you know, not stuff that the national media would
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have picked up on that local point of view. And, uh, you know, this is the first time,
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if I can give a bit of an overview of the scene, uh, there was a lot less people than I was expecting.
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I had never been around an event. I've met two prime ministers previously, Mr. Turner
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and Mr. Critchin. Uh, when I, I think Turner was prime minister when I met him. Uh, Mr.
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Critchin was not, he was the, uh, uh, uh, lady in waiting at the time, but I've never seen
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that kind of security, which is to say the essentially the, the secret service guys.
00:27:10.440
in Winnipeg. And like, I'm watching people craning and they're looking, I'm going, what are
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they looking at? It's like, Oh, those three guys there. And, uh, you know, having some
00:27:20.440
understanding of this kind of stuff, I scoped it out, so to speak. And they were at every exit
00:27:25.640
point and entrance point. And, um, I made a point of thanking a couple of them because it's thankless
00:27:31.080
service to do what they do and protect our, our national leaders. And, uh, the, the way it was set
00:27:40.520
up, there was like a press row right in front and, uh, over the, the, the microphone wasn't put like
00:27:47.400
right in the middle of the field, the stand. So, you know, about 40 feet, 50 feet to the left,
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to the other side of the microphone, Tom Brodbeck of the Winnipeg free press columnist,
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he hits up that position. I take a look, I'm staring right at Tom. The microphone's like
00:28:01.640
right between us. I realized nobody's actually standing here at the three o'clock position and I'm
00:28:05.720
10 feet from the microphone. So I'm not moving. Uh, so I spoke with some of the people around me.
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This is how I ascertained that, uh, there was about 35 at least Red River College journalism
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students there, as well as, uh, about another 70 or so. Cause I turned to these kids behind me who
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were like talking about, Oh, if I stand over here. And so obviously James turned to journalism students
00:28:29.640
and they were quite shocked that I knew James. And the first time I met him was at a crime scene
00:28:34.120
looking for, you know, any evidence the cops might have missed blood splatters or whatever.
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And, uh, I asked them, how many people here do you know? And they told about a hundred.
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Well, okay. And take off a hundred media and the various liberals. And there was maybe a hundred non,
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non-affiliated disinterested, so to speak, parties, um, that were there. The prime minister walked up
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fashionably late. Uh, he was, you know, it was aside from the day Pierre died or, or maybe the funeral.
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This is, this was the worst day of his life. I, I have no doubt about that. Um, it took about three or
00:29:13.880
four remarks in before finally, uh, when he said that he was asking for forgiveness, then he got a burst
00:29:21.320
of applause. It was small. It was light. And because I was so close to the murderer's row of,
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of, uh, uh, MPs, uh, standing, you know, 20 feet behind him, uh, audibly, I could pick up where
00:29:35.560
the applause was coming from. There's maybe 40 liberals in that crowd. There was no true mania
00:29:40.520
going on whatsoever. Uh, David Aiken asked the most, uh, penetrating question. I mean,
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Larry Kush, the free press was, I think up second kid, maybe he was first or second and Canadian
00:29:52.120
press. And they tried, but when Aiken pointed out that the job of prime minister wasn't invented
00:29:57.240
for you to work out your issues and Trudeau just obviously is never considered for a minute stepping
00:30:02.520
down. He's never considered for a minute, uh, the best interest of the party. He's never considered
00:30:06.680
for a minute. The impression he has now made as our leader on the international stage, uh, by his,
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nobody cares about what he did in high school, uh, in this, in this matter, it is perhaps a reflection
00:30:23.560
on his parents, but as it was pointed out to me, it's probably a reflection on his nanny.
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Cause who knows who was taking care of him at John Brebeuf school in Montreal when he was in grade 12.
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I don't expect him to have known better. Uh, it is more a reflection on his parents.
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Notably when he was asked whether his father knew he sides at that question for about three minutes.
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And no matter how often the media in Winnipeg said, well, he's asked about what his father Pierre
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would have said. And they go right to the clip leaving out his three minutes of baffle gab.
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And the fact is he didn't really answer the question. It is, I think, uh, an interesting
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question, whether his parents knew that he had a habit of dressing up in blackface to be the life
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of the party. But what him doing it at the age of 29 demonstrated a, a real gap in his judgment.
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And, uh, to have not talked about it all these years and for not to come out in candidate vetting,
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that is what I think is really irked a lot of people that the liberals jump all over anything
00:31:36.120
about any other candidate from any other party. But when it comes to their own and their own leader,
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they're not so fast. Um, Brittany Hobson, I want to mention Brittany Hobson of APTN,
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who she, as she put it, I want to change gears for a minute. I've never seen Brittany before,
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never met her, but I have some friends over at APTN and she, uh, there were some people who were
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angry with her because she deviated from the blackface issue and started asking about teen suicides
00:32:05.160
and what the report that had just come out and what his government was going to do about it.
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And what, and of course it's all our fault. Of course, uh, he didn't really have anything
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substantive to say, but she pressed him on it. And if there was one group besides liberals or Red
00:32:24.040
River college students who was well represented at this gathering of about 300 people in downtown
00:32:28.200
Winnipeg, it was people of Aboriginal descent and appearance. And, uh, that meant something to them.
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Yeah. You could see visibly that their issue was brought up. It went back to the blackface
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business. Uh, the only heckling, no, it shows you how polite Winnipeg is. There was, if, if Andrew
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Scheer had come to Winnipeg and had to deal with a similar scandal, those, you know, Antifa, all sorts of
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protest groups, banging pots and pans, that demonstration, uh, culture would have been out
00:33:07.400
in full force harassing prime minister Scheer. But when it's prime minister Trudeau, it was as polite
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and totally Winnipeg as could be. When he left, he started getting the gears as he was walking out
00:33:22.360
from Aboriginal activists, about 20 or 30 of them. And it was about, you know, observe the treaties
00:33:27.640
and this and that. I, in watching it, uh, his fielding the questions, uh, he was, he ended up
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face to face with me, which shocked me because when it was over and, you know, I kind of missed,
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missed out the opportunity to crack the joke in my blog post about it. He came to his right, like,
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about, say, four feet, five feet in front of me, um, walking a line towards, I couldn't figure out,
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but it was, there was a picnic bench in the park. Uh, and he was looking for some guy in particular,
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who I assumed, I only got a glimpse of him. He looked like an older Aboriginal guy and he's calling
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out his name. So here's the prime minister going, Romeo. And I completely missed the Shakespearean joke.
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And to greet him and then he makes, as he turns to his right, he's going to make his way out of the, um,
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you know, the crowd dive. And as he makes his way out, I, he's like right beside me.
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I take a picture of shaking hands with whoever this name was. I think it might've been one of
00:34:23.240
the Red River college students. And then I'm face to face with him. Like he's, he's not over.
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It's just no snow. I mean, it's like palace, they're only different. Yeah. And I looked at this guy and,
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um, he's aged visibly, visibly compared to the boy wonder that everybody got behind.
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Uh, I, I didn't really want to do anything that was going to startle him or, or cause a reaction
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because, uh, that wasn't the day for it considering how many, uh, uh, you know, we used to call them
00:34:59.320
higher goons, uh, were around. So, uh, he looks me straight in the eyes. It's nice to meet you.
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Well, pleasure to meet you too. And that was that I, you know, I, I could have played journalists
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at that moment, but, uh, I didn't think that was really a good idea. Uh, at that moment,
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he's wants to leave. Let's see what happens in the aftermath. I talked with people afterwards,
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some of the MPs with the, I spoke with Tom Brodbeck and the free press, a few other journalists,
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and with a lot of liberal staffers who were just clinging to hope that this wasn't a big deal,
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that he was able to explain it. Uh, as we saw that, you know, that wasn't going to work as
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illustrated by Thornhill, by a debate or a town hall in Thornhill. Uh, I think it was actually
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that same day, the 19th, that evening. Um, I don't think that, I don't think it worked.
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What he did in Winnipeg worked. I think that it's been proven that it didn't work.
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Yeah. Uh, and, uh, I repeat what I've said a number of times. I feel sorry for my friends
00:35:54.520
that are affiliated with the liberal party that are good people that continue to have to
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continue to get buried by corrupt liberal corruption and liberal nonsense. And, and increasingly,
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a leader who just very apparently, uh, is sees himself as special and doesn't realize when special
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stops and, uh, not being more special than the rest of us begins. Yeah. I mean, I think there's
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some sense that this is his hereditary role. Like, like the prime ministership is, um, it's like
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in the Royal family that he's inherited it, he's entitled to it. And by God, he's going to hang on
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to it. But the longer he hangs onto it, the more, you know, the more it appears to be selfish that he
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will maybe, you know, from my lips to God's ears, destroy the liberal party on the way out the door,
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um, because he refuses to relinquish power when, I mean, he really has, uh, whether or not liberal
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party wants to believe in whether or not Canadian voters are going to reflect that. I think that
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Justin Trudeau has ultimately damaged our, um, reputation on an international scale and our
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ability to negotiate and go to meetings. Like imagine going to the G seven now or sitting down with,
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I don't know, the Sultan of Brunei now, um, and representing Canada in any sort of reasonable
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way. I think that ship has long since sailed. And now I agree with you. He's he's, uh, uh,
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he, I, I don't measure qualifications by IQ and IQ can be a deceptive measure, but he is
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not cut of a serious cloth or serious enough cloth to be in a position of representing our country.
00:37:46.280
in, in serious matters of economics of international security. He just doesn't make it. I referenced
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Thorneil. There was a, a town hall put on by B'nai B'rith, uh, that night and, uh, uh, Peter Kent,
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the conservative incumbent, uh, he went right at them, uh, uh, at this issue. He, uh, brought up how a liberal
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candidate, thanks to B'nai B'rith's research had just been turfed. Uh, the liberal candidate,
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Gary Gladstone, who I surmise is Jewish. Uh, he said he accepted Trudeau's apology, uh, and said,
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actions speak louder than words, which of course that just boomerangs back on, uh,
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uh, nobody, the blackface incident had nothing to do with words. It had to do with actions.
00:38:35.640
So that really doesn't bail Justin out on that. Um, uh, the green, I want to mention one other
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thing in, in Thorneil that we'll look at other, uh, uh, issues, uh, relating to the federal election.
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The green party candidate is Josh, Josh Rackless. Uh, I'm unfamiliar with him. He's a Toronto guy,
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uh, and, uh, uh, evidently Jewish. Uh, he's running for the green party in Thornhill,
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and he head on discussed the problem that the green party has when it comes to Israel and Jewish
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people. My party is wrong for voting for BDS. I want to change that. That is probably the single
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bravest statement any candidate for parliament has made thus far. And it actually, to her credit,
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it proves what Elizabeth may said, uh, initially when it came to cat to the party, not having a
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position on abortion legislation or whatever, that members are free to bring forward policy for debate.
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And this is, and I discussed this with a green candidate here in Manitoba, not a federal and
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a provincial one that why are people complaining that a party saying it's open to discussing things,
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that, that every vote isn't whipped, that maybe there should be some discussion about, uh, uh,
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not to beat the drum, but Canada not having a poor, uh, uh, uh, uh, any laws pertaining to, uh,
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to last semester abortions. We're an outlier in this. And, and that is something that needs to be
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genuinely discussed and, and, and, and, and, and evaluated. And here's a guy where like,
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can you imagine in the green party being saying BDS is wrong? It's like touching the third rail.
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And Josh Rackless to his credit demonstrated that for all the, the wackiness around green
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party candidates and their policies as a political party, where a candidate knows they can say,
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I think my party's wrong. I'm going to ask my party to change. Holy crap. That to me is really
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impressive. Uh, how big it went over in Thornhill, I'm not sure, but I thought it was notable enough
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that it, it should be, um, mentioned. Well, could, could he have said anything other than that?
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It'd have been an eye breath debate. I suppose. There's plenty, there's plenty of left wing Jews.
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That's true. Try to split hairs. Oh, BDS is, is, is only about policy. And it's, and then they ignore
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the fact that it's enforced as Joe Oliver has pointed out, it's enforced against, uh, not just
00:41:17.320
disputed territories, but anything comes out of Israel. It's not just, uh, you know, a question
00:41:21.480
of olive oil or, or, or, uh, or, uh, cookies or, or, or something or soda stream. It involves, uh,
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science, science, academia, arts. So he could have tried to split hairs and very bravely that young man
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did not ultimately in looking for the Jewish vote, the Trudeau government in trying to get reelected.
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There's only that I can tell. I may have missed something, but it seems to be the most Jews,
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the most significant thing that they've done was not something that was really well accepted by Jews
00:41:59.080
in Canada, by a lot of other people, which was a sort of funding to, uh, the United Nations, uh,
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relief organization to UNRWA, which has textbooks that, uh, that are among the most vile that in
00:42:11.960
their, in their refugee schools about Jews and about Israel. Uh, uh, the Harper government put a
00:42:19.720
stop to funding that organization and the Trudeau government restored funding to it, uh, uh, which
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is preposterous because it calls for the elimination of the state of Israel. And here's, uh, uh, the liberal
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party saying, well, we believe in a two state solution, but we'll fund organizations, including
00:42:36.920
from the United Nations that don't believe in a two state solution. You know, go figure.
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Well, I know going back to the green party, just for a second. Um, they are, I suppose you do make
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a good point. They are open-minded. They are allowing debate on certain issues, but on the other hand,
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it feels as though sometimes they are so open-minded that their brains have rolled right out. Uh,
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they're running that green party candidate. I think she's in her name escapes me, but she's in Andrew
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Scheer's riding in Saskatchewan and she called Israel. The state of Israel is like a serial
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rapist. She said, I mean, and we know that, uh, Oh, again, another name escaping me, a green party
00:43:15.480
candidate perennial candidate here in Alberta. I think it was in West Yellowhead ran repeatedly
00:43:20.920
for the green party. She's currently in prison in Germany for Holocaust denial. She ran repeatedly,
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repeatedly, repeatedly for the greens, um, never hid her track record of Holocaust denial.
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She went on trial in Germany and she's in prison there. Um, and the greens have never really been
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held to account. There's never been a reckoning for the greens with regard to this sort of stuff.
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Uh, I, you know, this would be a bigger issue if they had any hope of, uh,
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influencing parliament, you know, and it's, look, it's, it's, it's not untypical of, uh,
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it's not untypical of the far left to just be, have such an open tent that it ends up just having
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these big gusts of stupidity blow right through it. Um, candidates that say things like that
00:44:13.080
and are allowed to stand undermine the credibility of the leader. Ultimately,
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uh, the NDPs, but as we'll discuss, the NDP's got a far bigger problem. The, you know, the liberals,
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uh, then, then the greens do the liberals revoked, uh, Hassan Gillette's candidacy,
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um, in Quebec. Uh, he's still, I think running as an independent. Yes. Uh, he had some lovely things
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to say. Uh, but there are a number of other candidates, uh, that, uh, that including liberals
00:44:41.400
that are, are controversial, uh, Samir Zuberi. Yes. Uh, who's, uh, in, uh, Pierre Font-Dollard,
00:44:49.320
uh, this fellow was evidently involved in harassing Jewish students and pro-Israel students at Concordia
00:44:57.160
University earlier in the early 2000s. He made at one point a remark that made it seem like he
00:45:04.520
was doubting that Osama bin Laden was responsible for 9-11. He tried to walk that back. He's, you know,
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worked with all faith communities. He's, uh, responds to the rise of far right extremism,
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because they never recognized extremism from the left. He trots out his token Jew as, uh, uh, as, uh,
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proof that, uh, he's, uh, uh, an even-handed fellow when it comes to, to these matters. Uh, it's a
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lesbian reform rabbi he trots out. So she represents perhaps 15% of, of the views of Canadian Jews,
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uh, which are by and large, much more conservative and orthodox and traditional.
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Um, most notably in the one story, and I think it was a McLean story that I found on this guy,
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uh, he was previously associated with the Council on American Islamic Relations Canada,
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now known as the National Council of Canadian Muslims. Why didn't they call it Care Canada?
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Yeah. Oh, because then people would know what it was, affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Yep. So here's an example of a guy who's being allowed, the Zuberi who's being allowed to stand.
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Now, the NDP, they have damn near a caucus of anti-Semites, uh, both incumbents and candidates
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running. Uh, Miranda Gallo, uh, is, uh, a candidate in Saint Laurent. In 2016, B'nai Brith acquired video
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of her in 2016, putting a boycott label of some sort, a BDS label of some sort, uh, onto, uh,
00:46:31.560
Israeli products on, uh, in a store. Uh, B'nai Brith has, as I understand it, not gotten a response
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with regards to, uh, whether any action will be taken by, uh, Jagmeet Singh. Um, uh,
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defacing a product like that is a criminal code offense. It's been going on a lot in Toronto in
00:46:52.600
the last while. Uh, uh, uh, oh, I'm sorry. I'm seeing now the party said Gallo's made aware of their,
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of their two-state policy and she supports it, but you can't support a two-state solution and be
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deep criminally defacing Israeli products. Um, she's not the only one in running in Montreal
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for the NDP. It's got some kind of history. Uh, Nima Sharouf and Laurier Saint-Marie is a member
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of the Quebec Soliditaire party, Solidaire party, which is officially endorsed BDS. Her husband was,
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uh, uh, demonstrated outside a store selling Israeli footwear in 2010.
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And he's, I think, also, also part of, yeah, and I didn't remember that.
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Because it's like, that's pretty, that's really small potatoes protesting shoes.
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Like, what, what was behind that? And I, I only came across this yesterday in researching for,
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for our appearance today. Uh, so she's well tied. This is a candidate Sharouf, well tied to, uh, BDS.
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Um, uh, Zahia El Masri, who's, uh, nominated in a Hunsik Karchevil. Uh, she's been a high-profile BDS
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activist for over 12 years, uh, appeared at a conference, uh, alongside Omar Barghouti,
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one of the founders of BDS. She took part in Israeli Apartheid week at the University of Concordia.
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So we see that she's a real friend of the Jewish people and of his, uh, and of, uh, Canada's
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relationship with Israel. Uh, there's an incumbent in Rosemont, Le Petit Patri, Alexander Boulderice,
00:48:26.120
who's, uh, the deputy leader for Jagmeet Singh. He's, uh, uh, uh, was a former CUPE member. Uh,
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so we already know which way he's going to be leaning when the wind blows. Uh, he asked the
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House of Commons, uh, when there was a revamping of the Canada Zero Free Trade Agreement, uh,
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why the government rejected an NDP amendment to label products from the disputed territories. He's
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again, a BDS. Oh, just put a gold star on them. Just put a gold star on them. They love that.
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They would do that. That would make it easy for everybody. Uh, and, uh, an MP from Sherbrooke,
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uh, Pierre-Luc Dussault is the revenue critic. He's the one that introduced the motion or introduced
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the petition to have CRA investigate the Jewish National Fund. Again, the favorite topic of our
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friends in Antifa, uh, independent Jewish voices and all those other self-hating Jewish Marxists,
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uh, that have not learned the lessons of history. But, um, you know, as I discussed in my notes and
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showed you, you know, none of this activity in terms of the NDP and candidates, uh, who caused
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legitimate concern among the Jewish community, Jewish citizens, Jewish voters, none of this
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surprise in a party led by Jagmeet Singh, because while Justin Trudeau has a blind spot when it comes
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to blackface, Jagmeet Singh has a blind spot to anti-Semites. Yep. He just doesn't see it.
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Look at Nikki Ashton. This isn't just like a low level problem with the NDP. Nikki Ashton speaks at
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Nakba Day. Um, we know that Nakba, that that's the catastrophe. It it's, you know, it's the, uh,
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how the BDS activists described the creation of the state of Israel, a place where, where Jews could
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always be safe. They describe it as the catastrophe. And that's how Nikki Ashton refers to it. She was
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very nearly the leader of that party. Yeah. And, uh, uh, Nikki Ashton should, uh, you know, she should
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insert herself into the Nakba Day march in Toronto next year, uh, so that she can be seen with exactly
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the kinds of, uh, people that that are affiliated with it so she can stand there and hear the kinds
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of things that come out of their mouths about Jews, about Israel, about, uh, about the, the, uh,
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right of the Jewish people to a homeland. Uh, this rewriting of history, uh, the trying to eliminate
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the, the notion there's been a continuing presence of the Jewish people of the descendants of Abraham
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for 3000 years. Nikki Ashton should go to Nakba Day so that she can be made to defend it directly.
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Not saying, well, that's just what you say that. Well, I saw the video, but I wasn't.
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Go. They should all go. They should all go and be seen for what they are when they participate in
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that. And, you know, at the same time, they should be asked, what about the 800,000 Jews
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that were forced from their homes in the Arab countries and given nothing and have never
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received any reparations, whether it's from Yemen, whether it's from Syria, whether it's from Morocco,
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from the, the African subcontinent. They never want to address that, uh, whatsoever. Now,
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with regards to Jagmeet Singh and his blind spot to anti-Semites, uh, there's an activist out of
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Toronto who, uh, on his Facebook put up a picture of him, uh, posing with a banner to save Yemeni
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children, uh, which I'm sure he really cares about with the Jagmeet Singh. Uh, and this character is, uh,
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uh, Faraz is his, uh, colloquial name, I guess, uh, Husseini Al-Najim. And he's invented a group
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called Canadian Defenders for Human Rights, CD4HR on Facebook. Uh, yeah. And your squint is quite
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accurate because it's much the, it's much the opposite. Yeah. I was gonna say that's a pretty
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Orwellian sounding name. I bet you it stands for everything opposite.
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Yeah. And of course, so Jagmeet Singh would think that this is fabulous because it has the phrase
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human rights in it. Uh, this fellow has taken video in the last couple of months, uh, outside
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Jewish synagogues, you know, like casing locations in effect. There's a Muslim, and I don't know if
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Rebel covered this, Rebel Media covered this. There's a woman in Toronto who I thought was Jewish.
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It turns out that she's a lapsed Muslim who's very pro-Israel. Uh, yeah. I know who you're talking
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about. Yeah. Solomon. And this guy with his kid with him, he spots her. And I don't know if he was
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waiting for her and whatever the supermarket is in the neighborhood, he follows her in. She's trying
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to get a card. She's got her own kid. Who's like three or four and he's falling and berating her,
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taping this about, uh, about being a bad Muslim and supportive, so you know, supporting baby killers
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or whatever he was saying. So he's, there had been a number of police reports made about his
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activities and about his language. Uh, in, uh, when this picture appeared, uh, on his Facebook,
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uh, our publisher, the J.ca, Ron East contacted the NDP and sent, uh, uh, an email with regards to
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this, an inquiry to Jagmedstein. It was on September 7th, still no response pointing out that he's casing
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that this fellow that you're pictured with, your association is creating a wave of shock and
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concern within the Jewish community. Uh, he's engaged in provocative actions, casing Jewish
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properties in North York, intimidating, among others, a Muslim woman who's pro-Israel. Uh,
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many of these incidents have been reported to police, uh, and Jagmedstein was asked by Ron East
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to denounce, uh, Mr. Al-Najim and the violent anti-Semitism he stands for and ensure anti-Semitism
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doesn't have a home within the NDP party. No answer from Jagmedstein. Now it's just a few days ago
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that, uh, uh, Faraz, who's prone to all sorts of, uh, interesting essays on Facebook, as well as
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videos. Uh, he goes off on Zionists, uh, specialized in accusations divert people or the conversation
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from their oppression occupation towards Palestine and Palestinians. We'll talk about how great that
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occupation is working out in a minute. We swing the Israeli elections. Yeah. But at the end of his,
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of his diatribe, he says, for those activists and organizations that aren't fully on board
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and ready for major escalations and sacrifices, we'd like to say, we wish you good luck, but please
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don't disturb our work or try to defame it because you are not ready for real confrontations. And that's
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the kind of guy that, um, Jagmedstein will not denounce and, uh, takes photographs with.
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That sounds like violent rhetoric, or at least it would be described as violent rhetoric if a
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conservative had said it. That's for darn sure. Now, no, no conservative that I know of in this
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country would say. Well, of course, of course. Now you did mention the Israeli elections. Um,
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I'm a follower of Israeli politics. I do my very best, but they have proportional representation.
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And so it is an absolute zoo trying to figure out who actually won an election. Uh, and it takes
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weeks to figure it out. Can you give us a Coles notes version of what the heck is happening in Israel
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right now? All I, all I really understand is the Coles notes version. The parliamentary system is
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falling apart. Uh, you have to have a certain threshold of votes or percentage to be then able to
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get a seat in the Knesset. And then that's based not on candidates running in ridings or wards or
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whatever. It's based on a list. So the parties put out a list of their top, say 50 candidates and the
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major parties, uh, Likud and blue and white, they figured that, you know, the top 35 ish have a
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chance of becoming an MK, a member of the Knesset. And so this system, it's become very dysfunctional
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because of the level of horse trading that's needed to cobble together a coalition with these
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other minority parties. Uh, now, um, this also creates a weakness because as part of that horse
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trading, um, if you don't have anybody high enough on your list from say a certain region or a certain,
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uh, you know, uh, community, I mean, it's very unlikely, but I, cause I don't know the names of
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small communities or smaller neighbors would be an example, but let's say you don't have anybody on
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your list from, uh, Haifa. Okay. Uh, uh, uh, and another party does, you need to have some sort
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of deal where government's got representation in Haifa. So you're going to make a deal with the
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party whose number four candidate is from Haifa. So you're cutting deals, not only based on politics,
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but you're also cutting them on the base of making sure that you've got regional representation
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in your government. I know it's not so complicated. So a nun unnecessarily. So doesn't have to be that
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way. Just run ridings. Well, which for whatever reason, and I, I, I've never studied it. So I don't
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know why that. I mean, I could see at the beginning, it wasn't highly populated. So you go on the base of
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lists, but at some point that it just seems to me, this is it's collapsing under its own weight as,
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as court cases do. So what happened is the, the majority of the voters are, are, are Jewish,
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but there is so much infighting now about these coalitions that form to prop up governments.
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And the left labor is not immune. They ruled Israel for the first about 30 years from Ben Gurion on
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until I guess Menachem Begin. Um, the horse trading that Netanyahu and other prime ministers,
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in this case, Netanyahu have done with the ultra religious parties, where they say, yes,
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we'll bring our six seats to give you a majority, you know, push you over the line. But we want the
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ministry of health, or we want the ministry of finance, or they get key ministries where the policy is
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then dictated, literally dictated by those narrow religious interests. So secular, the, the, the,
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the secular Jewish population in Israel has grown to a point where
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they don't agree that there should be no public transit, maybe not through certain neighborhoods.
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But what do you mean you can't take a bus on, on Saturday? I did not realize till this week,
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one of the rebel correspondents is in Israel and ends up in the hospital, gets hit in the head with a rock
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and he's there on a Shabbos and we go, we cannot buy food in the hospital. The vending machines are
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turned off. What kind of a, no, it's not my country. I don't like criticizing other countries, but like,
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that's nuts. The hospital is a public service, uh, that isn't denominational. This isn't where the
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schools are closed because they're run by the religious orthodox or whatever. So it's no wonder
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Israelis are fed up. You can't go visit your relatives in the hospital and bring them a tuna sandwich or a
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can of Dr. Pepper. Like that's, that's bizarre. And so now what, what is happening in these elections
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where nobody's gaining a clear edge is the resistance as it were between the secular
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Jewish interests that want the country to be more as it were liberal, less under the thumb of the, of,
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of what are, you know, in their minds border on Jewish mullahs, right? How is this very different
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from Iran or Turkey where Erdogan forms partnerships and suddenly becomes more and more Muslim in order
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to maintain power? Well, it's hit a breaking point in Israeli society. And this is what, what's happened
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is the Jewish vote is so polarized. The Arab list, meanwhile, um, that was a coalition of all these
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little Arab parties. And I don't know what all their little subtexts are or aren't, but some of them are,
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you know, clearly, uh, you know, not exactly friends of a Jewish state, but they voted as a block,
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coordinated things, and they end up with, um, not exactly a balance of power, but with a lot of influence
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because the Jewish parties aren't collectively going to, you know, aren't, aren't, um, as interested
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in forming a unity government as perhaps everybody wishes they were. So one thing that's come out that's
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been disappointing for Ron and myself is there are a number of people, uh, people that follow the
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j.ca and, and, and, uh, people that are influential in the Canadian Jewish communities, activists that
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are talking about the Arab list having influence as, um, you know, a biblical, what's the term I'm looking
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for? Um, like a prophecy? Well, I think I've heard that too, actually, but I, I haven't caught on how,
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but that it's, that it's, uh, a real, uh, foreboding of bad times for, uh, for the Jewish people. And I
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don't think that's, that's not right. And that's not fair. This is proof that the apartheid state is a
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failure. This is proof of the success of the Israeli democracy in that the, uh, Arab list has,
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I think they're in position for 12 seats that, and they are in a position to have a say in terms
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of the composition of the government. Yeah. That's the worst word matters. If they're trying
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to apartheid everybody, they're sure doing it wrong. The worst, this is the worst apartheid regime.
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I mean, they, they flunked, they flunked the test with this election. Now, again, with people that
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are concerned that this is bad, well, then I'll tell you what, it's up to Israelis to,
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if, if you're worried about a Muslim population bomb in Israel, then there's, uh, there's one way to
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counter it. And that is to go forth and multiply, which is what we were commanded to do. And I suppose
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also, and, uh, you know, for Jews in the diaspora are going to have to evaluate if they can move to
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Israel and how economically they can sustain themselves, uh, et cetera. Um, but I don't see
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this, uh, as, and I'm not a, I'm not by any stretch hugely negative on Netanyahu. I'm not usually
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negative on Benny Gantz either. I, I don't care a lot. This could have all been avoided if Lieberman's
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demands, uh, that the Haredium, that the ultra-Orthodox be drafted, that they have to serve
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in the, in the military. If that had been agreed to, which would have fractured Netanyahu's, um,
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uh, coalition, but might have brought, would have brought other support, a lot of this wouldn't
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have happened. So now Lieberman, you know, he wants that, he wants this, he wants transit on Shabbos.
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Uh, Netanyahu, I think, could have avoided this by being more of a centrist and relying less on the
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ultra-religious for his base of support. Uh, but, uh, lo and behold, um, the, you know, the,
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the Arab vote was 60%. These, the majority of them are committed to life in Israel under
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the current system. They are not voting to overthrow the democracy. I think a lot of people
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in the Jewish community misunderstand, I think I saw a survey was that 71% of, of Arabs in Israel
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like being Israeli and want to, want to stay that way. It's up to the Jews in Israel to ensure,
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along with the, the Christian communities, to ensure that that environment is maintained
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so that everybody who's in Israel, uh, and values democracy and values, uh, a society where gays
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aren't thrown off of the tops of buildings, where people all aren't hauled off and executed for
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being collaborators. Yeah. Uh, I think it's up to everybody that values that to grow that tent. And,
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uh, and, uh, uh, uh, I, I don't see this as disastrous. I think it would be disastrous
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if no government can last out of this, because another election in five months,
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um, it's going to make the government itself and the country itself increasingly dysfunctional.
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And without a voice, one voice, whether it's Netanyahu's or Benny Gantz or whoever on the world
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stage, that is something concerns, uh, all Jews in North America, certainly that, uh, Israel sort
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out its political issues has the, the era of the list of the party list outlived its usefulness.
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Um, as an impartial observer, I think it's on its last legs. What Israelis themselves are going to
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decide, I don't know, but they can't keep going with a system where you're trying to horse trade
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regional representation and religious representation into a party, into a coalition government to cobble
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something together just to maintain power. Cause it's, it's going to start eating at the confidence
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Israelis have in their own, in their own society. And, uh, it's, uh, in that regard, it's a difficult
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time. I'm sure it'll, it can be sorted out, but some people may have to come off their pedestals a
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little bit. Now from the Israeli election back to the Canadian election for a second, um, we're about a
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week out of the blackface scandal and it doesn't seem to be going away. What is your prediction for the
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formation of the Canadian government right now? I'm sure things will change and, and, uh, we'll see some
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shift in support as I'm sure other scandals will break. I'm not sure from which parties and when, but I'm
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sure there's more. Um, what do you, what do you think? Uh, minority majority and who by whom formed by whom?
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I don't see a majority government. I don't see a majority government as being likely, although I understand
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there's been quite a shift in Ontario, which would bring a conservative majority. I don't see that
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as being the most likely scenario. Jagmeet Singh, I think really shot himself in the foot by, uh,
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saying that he would nonetheless prop up a liberal minority government between the SNC Lavalin, um,
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and, uh, the, uh, black, the, the, you know, the, the ability, the, the circumstances outward,
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Trudeau's, you know, you know, basic qualifications, his personality are now being called into question.
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I think Jagmeet Singh shot himself in the foot by, by, I mean, worst negotiator on earth to give that
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card away. Um, I, I don't see the green party going beyond three or four seats, but I think more
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importantly, I don't see the liberals going beyond five seats in Western Canada. And what you mentioned
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earlier about this ruining the liberal brand, that Laurentian gang, you know, they could all whoop it
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up at the Chateau Laurier and, and, you know, their, their own little circle jerk parties, but they are
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abandoning, um, abandoning the, the people that identify as liberals in Western Canada, but with
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their behavior and with their, with their smarmy attitude, uh, there are people who traditionally
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in the West have vacillated between liberal and conservative, depending on how, you know,
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red Tory, you know, they are, et cetera. Uh, but if they go down to five seats in Western Canada,
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in no way is that a legitimate government, even if they form a majority by somehow, you know,
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doing well in, in the East, if anything, it is, it will fuel Western separation. And I don't say
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that lightly, uh, but it's been increasingly apparent to me the last, the last year, year
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and a half in particular, but certainly the last six months that this is something that should not
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be dismissed by the Eastern elite. Uh, so I think it's possible that there will be a conservative
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government. I think if any more blackface pictures come out or video, anything else like that, I think
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is, there's no way if that comes out, there's no way whatever standing the liberals have in the polls
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that day, they aren't going up from that day if there's more of this stuff. Uh, and I am certain
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that there's other things that are embarrassing to the prime minister that are a reflection on
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poor or immature judgment that are yet to be divulged, uh, that can come out in this, uh,
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campaign. I think the most likely scenario is a minority conservative government.
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I can't see how the, um, opposition parties, you know, their alternative would be to say,
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yeah, you know, that trying to rig a criminal prosecution of a, of a business that is rioting.
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Yeah. It's not really that big of a deal. Yeah. Cause I think that would really their burst their
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balloon, uh, their credibility in a lot of places. If they propped up a Trudeau
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minority government, uh, I, I, I don't see, um, again, uh, the, the, the other question
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is heading into the French debates is how badly is Maxime Bernier going to take this blackface club
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and beat on Justin Trudeau with it because that I'm not an expert, but it seems to me that that could
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move. I'm sure there are people go back that go between the BQ, uh, for instance, and the liberals
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that are, you know, Quebec centric voters. And it could be that Bernier is in a position where,
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you know, I, you know, I may have done stupid things, but I never did that. He could say that
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quite legitimately. Yeah. And that might affect the election because it's going to, um, influence
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voters in Quebec to second guess the Trudeau dynasty. Yeah. I don't think that English media
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has really looked at that and wondered how does this improve Bernier's fortunes,
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the people's party fortunes in Quebec and it may not add seats, but if it moves votes,
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the next thing you know, you could have conservatives or I suppose BQ members that slide through,
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it takes away from the liberal ledger. Um, uh, right now I would see a conservative minority
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is the most likely outcome. And especially if there's any more damage control days required
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for Justin Trudeau. Um, it's to me, it's very uphill because all the opposition parties
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hammer them on credibility. They hammer them on honesty. They hammer them on broken promises.
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This isn't just the conservatives doing it. This is the message that's getting the voters is from
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all the parties is the government is rotten, that it stinks. And we all know what you have
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to do with the head of the fish. Right. Um, lastly, since you've been extremely generous with your time,
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um, where do people find you, Marty? How do they support your work? How do they support your
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secular work and your work at the J.ca? The J.ca is, uh, located online. Uh, concurrent with this
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interview, we have published a guide in particular for Jewish voters, but there's a helpful information
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for all voters about elections, uh, links to Elections Canada, uh, websites. You can find where
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your polling place is advanced polling, uh, this year for the Jewish community. Uh, the, one of the days,
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the advanced polls falls on Sukkot, which is a holy day and also falls on the election day itself,
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falls on the eighth day of Sukkot, uh, Shemini Yatzeret. Uh, and so Jewish voters are religious
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Jewish voters of which there's a sizable number, certainly Toronto, Montreal, less so in Winnipeg
01:12:08.840
and Vancouver and Calgary, they're going to have to vote in advance. I'm not a big fan of advanced
01:12:13.720
voting by and large. Uh, but we provided a story that demonstrates the links, the qualifications
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to vote, uh, as, uh, a public service, so to speak, but those who are not Jewish, those links are,
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you know, again, for polling places and the dates. Uh, so you can go to the J.ca and there's, uh, uh,
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links on our website, uh, uh, tabs, uh, with regards to sponsorship, with regards to advertising.
01:12:35.640
Uh, for me personally, uh, the great Canadian talk show, uh, is my news blog, tgcts.com online.
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Still banned by Facebook for reasons unknown, but the workaround is working so far, uh, so good.
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I had, um, I was very pleased with the level of support, uh, that I got, uh, uh, and some,
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a couple of whom did reference my appearances here on the gun show and I appreciate it. I'm hoping that
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more people will see the value in having independent Manitoba coverage of the federal election
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and of the candidates. Uh, and I'll carry on through this. Uh, and, uh, I don't know if,
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I don't know how many more elections I've got in me, uh, in my guise as a, as a reporter and
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commentator, but I'm proud of the work that I did in the Manitoba election. I can tell you that
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Trudeau's story, uh, that, uh, about day one of damage control. Um, there were a lot of very
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recognizable, influential, high level people, uh, from, uh, the world of diplomacy, from the world
01:13:36.040
of politics, the world of media that, um, that liked seeing a story from somebody on the ground
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who isn't part of the Ottawa press corps, doesn't live in that bubble. I mentioned a few things that
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I thought were, you know, he walked around mentioned actually discussing whether his father knew about
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his costumed antics. Uh, nobody had the balls to ask him whether his mother knew about this or when.
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Yeah. He did not mention his wife. And I would have thought that an apology about how you've
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embarrassed yourself and your party. And I talked about it with my kids. You would have thought he
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would have mentioned his wife and he didn't, which I thought was very significant. I'm just saying,
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it seems like I'm the only commentator person in attendance that noticed that.
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Yep. Um, but the response was probably my most widely circulated story, uh, maybe in, in,
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by certain metrics of all time. Certainly I reached an audience that's, that was Canada wide
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and worldwide. And, uh, people found value in, in the perspectives I brought of a Jewish guy for
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the North end. And as I, as I said, you know, uh, the, the course of our lives brought to Justin
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Trudeau and I together in the same place at the same time, but he had some explaining to do. And
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I had a clean bill of health. So that's what the green was to that. Oh, that's great, Marty. Marty,
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uh, I want to thank you for being extremely generous with your time and your, uh, your unique
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on the ground perspective from Winnipeg. Hopefully we can catch up with you in a couple of weeks,
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sometime after the election and, uh, and we'll discuss. Maybe we can get in before the election,
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if something oddballed happens again, I hope the rebel media is going to be having some people come
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through here, uh, during the course of the campaign. And I look forward to a meeting with whoever,
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uh, whoever comes by to visit and, uh, and seeing, uh, seeing just what kind of hard
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questions can be asked that politicians start to squirm when, uh, when they hear them and start
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looking for an exit. Uh, I, I, I've seen some really good work, uh, on the rebel during this
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campaign, some excellent work, uh, by yourself, by, by, and I don't want to leave anybody out.
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Menzies has been doing great. He's always great. And is, uh, Kean is certainly in a groove
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and it's important that, that these kinds of outlets, the ones that don't get media accreditation,
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the ones that are treated like they aren't really, we know, we know what journalism is nowadays.
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And for those that don't want to toe a party line, that don't want to toe, um, you know,
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that don't come at everything swinging, you know, like Karl Yastrzemski from the left,
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there's gotta be something for the rest, for the rest of the public. And that's the role that we feel in,
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uh, the, the election coverage, uh, coming from rebel, from rebel TV has been, uh, literally,
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it's a highlight every day to see what it, what is covered, what is brought up, what is unearthed.
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And, uh, I do my part in a similar vein here out of Winnipeg. And, uh, I look forward to, to hearing
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from your audience. If there, anybody has any story tips or any issues, by all means, get ahold of me.
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Uh, for right now, I'm going to stay the course in political reporting and, and such things. And, uh,
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as often as, as often as you'll have me on, I'll be here to, uh, to do what I can to enlighten
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everybody about what goes on here in the, uh, in Manitobastan, as we used to call it under the NDP.
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But as, as Alistair has said frequently, uh, blue skies, uh, are blue skies every day here in Manitoba.
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And it's, uh, it's a much, much different place now than it was under the Salinger regime. And, uh,
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we'll see what federal regime takes hold here in a few weeks time.
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thanks for your generosity with your time. Thank you, Sheila.
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Here's what I think is going to happen in the remaining few weeks of this election campaign.
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There are likely even more scandals about to be revealed about Justin Trudeau,
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but that won't necessarily mean the end of Justin Trudeau.
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That will just mean that the liberal approved media is going to come at the conservative party
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even harder to deflect away from their boy prince's self-inflicted problems.
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You see, for the media, it's just self-preservation. People just aren't buying the garbage they're
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selling anymore. So they have to get that bailout from Justin Trudeau. So they have to get Justin
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Trudeau reelected at all costs, even if it costs Canadian unity.
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Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back
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here in the same time, in the same place next week. And remember, don't let the government tell you that