Rebel News Podcast - Manitoba check-up： Handgun bans in Winnipeg and fake hate crimes

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00:01:17.620 Does the city of Winnipeg have its very own version of Progressive Mayor Naheed Nenshi?

00:01:32.180 Sure looks that way. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:47.620 I talk a lot about Edmonton and Calgary on the show, first of all because they're closer to home

00:01:57.880 for me, but also because I hate to see these great entrepreneurial metropolises destroyed by

00:02:03.100 progressive municipal policies. However, Alberta cities aren't the only cities suffering this swing

00:02:09.940 to progressivism on the prairies. Turns out Winnipeg just might be as bad. Powerful Winnipeg city

00:02:15.640 councillors are already advocating for increased spending on climate change policies. And a far

00:02:22.320 left-wing city councillor is also looking to replicate Toronto by calling for a handgun ban.

00:02:27.820 What the heck is happening to our prairie cities? To discuss these issues and his ongoing coverage of

00:02:34.740 Western Canadian Jewish issues, that's a hard one to say, is independent Winnipeg journalist

00:02:40.820 Marty Gold. Marty, thanks for joining us. This is Marty Gold from the J.C.A. in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon.

00:02:47.820 Joining me now from Winnipeg, slightly less cold than it is here at home, is my friend, independent Winnipeg journalist Marty Gold. Marty, thanks for joining me. Let's talk about local stuff off the hop for you.

00:03:14.220 Sure. At the Rebel, we don't get to talk about a lot of local Winnipeg stuff, so I like to rely on you. I talk a lot about Edmonton, a lot about Calgary. But Winnipeg is right in the mix with their own, I guess their own Nenshi, Mayor Bowman.

00:03:30.080 Yeah, he's developed a, and it should have been more of an issue in the last election, but he's managed to pervert the City of Winnipeg act in that he's formed a political party, without calling it that, made up of his appointees to the committee chairs.

00:03:53.180 The committee chairs then form a committee of the, it's not of the whole, a committee of the powerful, called the Executive Policy Committee. So you'll have the chair of Public Works, the chair of Parks and Development, which involves the cops, you get the idea.

00:04:08.000 And these chairs, six chairs, along with Bowman, form a caucus of seven that will then steer matters as they come up through the committee and other processes towards the City Council agenda.

00:04:19.060 He has appointed, what he's done towards the end of his last term and in this term, is he appoints a deputy mayor and an acting deputy mayor, and they get to sit in on these meetings with these other chairs, and it has created a caucus of nine, a majority of council, and the council has 16 members.

00:04:37.220 And this is controlling things. And it's not just a question of controlling agendas, it's also a question of access to information.

00:04:44.040 And so if your councillor is on the outs, your councillor is expected to ask a department head for information about, you know, about, you know, some breakdown in your neighbourhood, and you may or may not ever get an answer.

00:05:01.660 And this is, of course, ridiculous, that you can't get answers through the committee heads, the committee chairs, but rather you're supposed to go back through the department, like you're a glorified plebe. 0.87

00:05:09.680 And there are council members who've been on executive policy committee in the past, who are now on the outs, and who are very vocal about how, you know, about how discriminatory this is towards the voters of Winnipeg.

00:05:24.540 And the best example I can give you is, and I haven't made a stink of this locally here yet, because I really haven't done much journalistically yet so far this year.

00:05:32.520 The east side of the city, Transcona, East Kildonan, North Kildonan, are not on EPC, and there are repeatedly decisions that are being made that are contrary to the best interests of that entire district, and not just in terms of the EPC side, but at committee where these EPC members are steering and guiding development decisions in neighbourhoods.

00:05:55.300 So the councillors may, in one instance, vote against an amendment to the development plan in a particular part of the district, and then at committee, Brian Bowman's acolytes decided to overturn it.

00:06:07.660 But if you did that in their own wards, they would crap themselves.

00:06:12.200 And one of them, as much said so, in a debate after the vote I'm referencing, where something else came up and the councillor said, well, this would take away my authority in my own ward, and I don't like this. 1.00

00:06:23.700 And it's a bunch of hypocrites. 0.86

00:06:27.200 Bowman, like Nancy, is very big on the fluff, very big on the hand-holding, not very good when it comes to managing a pocketbook. 0.94

00:06:35.000 Bowman, you know, late in his first campaign began describing himself as a small businessman, and I've made the point repeatedly, I've never heard of a lawyer with a small practice in the specialty field of privacy law.

00:06:49.260 There's no evidence that he ever made any kind of substantive dent.

00:06:53.460 I know myself that I've done things in using freedom of information requests that have changed government policies, changed government practices, that's exposed serious issues within government, whether it was the use of whiteout to change rules for entry to the boxing and wrestling licensing realm, or whether it was exposing Eric Robinson, the deputy premier's latent racism about white do-gooders.

00:07:17.460 I don't know if Brian Bowman ever did anything in the realm of privacy or privacy laws that affected any genuine social change, but he touts that as a way of saying, I'm a lawyer, or I was a lawyer.

00:07:28.660 And on top of that, he claims that because he was a partner in a firm, that somehow that made him a small businessman.

00:07:35.660 So he lives in a world of illusion, he does.

00:07:38.660 And part of this is the illusion of transparency with a budget process where meetings are scheduled concurrent to other committee meetings that councillors have to attend.

00:07:48.660 So while you can come to committee, you can ask the department heads and the sub-heads about the budget line items for, you know, snow clearing or this or that, but in fact, the councillors don't have equal and equitable access because they have other obligations they have to attend to.

00:08:04.660 Yeah, and you know, you and I were talking yesterday, Winnipeg has some very real problems that need to be addressed instead of this, you know, petty squabbling and arguing at the city administration level.

00:08:19.460 So, 44 murders in 2019 and two more already, and instead of dealing with the, I hate to say root causes because it sounds like such a Trudeau word, but instead of dealing with the reasons why there are 44 murders happening in 2019,

00:08:37.560 you've got councillors in Winnipeg who are trying to replicate the lack of success dealing with the murder problem in Toronto by introducing a gun ban in Winnipeg.

00:08:53.520 And you and I, again, we were talking off camera, this sort of stuff might fly in Toronto, where you can go your entire life without ever really leaving Toronto or the big city,

00:09:03.540 but people in Winnipeg, you're maybe one generation away from the farm, you understand, you know people who don't live in the city,

00:09:11.740 and so, you know, people understand that this kind of stuff really doesn't do anything to address the problem with gun violence and crime.

00:09:20.720 Well, this is, again, an example of one of these woke councillors.

00:09:25.240 Sherry Rollins was a Winnipeg school trustee who became chair of finance, and if I'm remembering correctly,

00:09:32.000 under her term as chair of finance at the Winnipeg school division, we saw the highest tax rates increases ever.

00:09:40.040 She's highly woke.

00:09:41.640 There isn't a seemingly a minority group that she won't find a way of identifying with tangentially one way or the other in her so-called lived experience.

00:09:48.860 She's that kind of a person.

00:09:52.980 The murder that got Rollins deciding that she could, you know, plug a dime into her headline generator occurred at the Windsor Hotel.

00:10:03.940 Now, the Windsor Hotel up until a couple of years ago, although it's an old hotel, and it's getting run down.

00:10:09.060 It's in downtown Winnipeg, and it's Kitty Corner, literally Kitty Corner, the location of the new police station, the former downtown post office.

00:10:18.420 And the last couple of years, the Windsor's gotten to be a much rougher, it's attracted a much rougher crowd.

00:10:22.880 It always attracted a sort of a questionable crowd as a blue, it became a, had achieved some fame as a blues bar.

00:10:29.080 And the hotel itself is a, like a, you know, probably the level one step above a fleabag.

00:10:36.500 But the last couple of years, it's become a more dangerous place to be around.

00:10:40.060 It's attracted more of a, of a disreputable clientele.

00:10:43.900 That's also because gradually a lot of the previous hotels in Winnipeg that maybe had some of that kind of traffic go through it, that those places have disappeared.

00:10:52.860 And so there's fewer and fewer places for the Shkutzim to show up. 1.00

00:10:56.880 So the Windsor's had a few problems.

00:10:59.540 Late Saturday night, as in early Sunday morning, around 2.30 in the morning, there was some kind of altercation.

00:11:04.640 Police believe that there was two larger groups.

00:11:07.460 I assume that they were in the bar and leaving.

00:11:10.720 And in the course of this altercation, somebody shot somebody.

00:11:14.680 And a fellow named Yassin Abu Ahmed was killed.

00:11:18.000 He's a 20-year-old.

00:11:18.840 And right away, you know, people jumped to some conclusions based on the name of the deceased.

00:11:25.240 But from my research into the deceased and from what I've seen, this was an example of actually a success story in terms of a family that came from the proverbial war-torn Somalia, was dumped in, I think, Khartoum, emigrated to Canada as refugees.

00:11:42.080 And this kid was a basketball coach.

00:11:44.800 He was on basketball, championship basketball teams.

00:11:47.940 I'm not familiar with his name.

00:11:50.780 I looked at his picture.

00:11:51.740 I can't say I recognize it.

00:11:53.040 But he was involved in the Spence Neighborhood Association, the West Broadway Association.

00:11:57.040 So this was a really good kid.

00:11:58.840 Now, this part of downtown falls under the ward boundaries of Sherry Rollins, who represents Fort Rouge.

00:12:11.420 I don't even remember now if it's Fort Rouge.

00:12:13.460 He's Fort Gary still.

00:12:14.680 They might have changed that ward boundary last time around.

00:12:16.720 So it falls in her ward.

00:12:21.380 So this gives her standing to flap her gums. 1.00

00:12:25.420 And so she decides that it's time to insist on a handgun ban and that she wants the feds to implement it swiftly. 0.65

00:12:31.980 Obviously, obviously, an intelligent thought has not gone through her head in regards to this matter.

00:12:35.680 And she's getting called out, but good online, starting with the question of handgun bans.

00:12:45.020 Now, have they tried that somewhere like Chicago?

00:12:47.980 Yeah.

00:12:48.440 Baltimore?

00:12:48.920 Furthermore, the controversy wasn't so much her saying this, although she is the first Winnipeg politician to try to make hay.

00:12:59.820 I mean, Mayor Bowman has said he favors a handgun ban, but that was not in relation to any kind of municipal order or anything like that.

00:13:08.060 But yesterday at the police press conference, Constable Rob Carver, who's a hell of a smart cop and a good guy, Rob just shot this down immediately, that this will make no impact on their workload.

00:13:20.620 They are not seeing murders committed with legally obtained firearms in the possession of illegal owners.

00:13:26.240 There was, I think, six shooting deaths last year in Winnipeg, and I'm not sure they were all handguns.

00:13:34.360 Some of these would have been shotguns or perhaps improvised devices.

00:13:38.660 It is simply not a big problem in Winnipeg.

00:13:43.040 And Winnipegers recognize that a handgun ban is not responsive to what's going on on the streets.

00:13:51.620 Now, if Sherry Rollins wanted to demonstrate something other than political opportunism, which I realize might be kind of tough for her, given that she directly referenced John Tory, if she was smart, she'd be calling for a ban on machetes. 1.00

00:14:10.780 Because when you've seen this raft of store robberies in Winnipeg, the liquor store invasions, there were machetes used in those.

00:14:19.720 Cab drivers threatened with machetes.

00:14:22.520 And Winnipeg does not have a machete culture, if you want to talk about gun culture in the West and whatever, which I, by the way, believe certainly exists and is justifiable. 0.89

00:14:33.820 There's no machete culture in Winnipeg, not even among the Filipino community.

00:14:37.860 You know, it's nonsense.

00:14:40.300 Now, there's something that Sherry Rollins could propose, a ban on the sale of machetes in Winnipeg. 0.99

00:14:45.740 I'm pretty certain that that would fall under the jurisdiction of city council.

00:14:49.800 They restrict the sale of spray paint.

00:14:57.620 The sale of rubbing alcohol is restricted in Winnipeg.

00:15:02.040 I don't know if that's by a civic convention or just something the police recommended.

00:15:05.480 But if you ban the sale of machetes, that would actually go a lot further to protecting public safety in Winnipeg.

00:15:11.380 And more Winnipeggers would get behind it because they would understand that.

00:15:17.700 But Rollins, you know, the money quote from the CBC interview was, I have a very different job than Constable Carver.

00:15:25.480 He deals every day with downstream impacts of gun crime.

00:15:28.400 My job is making sure I'm doing crime prevention through social development in the city.

00:15:31.860 How social development is the main job of a city councillor is hard to identify.

00:15:47.860 And Carver's quote response was, it might make some people feel good, but it will not change the threat level one iota.

00:15:54.120 And so today there's, you know, some of the woke crowd continues to fall behind this great idea and they're getting picked off on Twitter by some of the common sense crowd.

00:16:06.120 And if they are mentioning Chicago or Baltimore or some other place, they're pointing out that this is, you know, very much a stay in your lane kind of situation.

00:16:17.280 Well, that's a good segue into the next thing I wanted to talk to you about because it is, you know, woke people wanting to ban things.

00:16:25.640 And it comes ironically from the Winnipeg Free Press, which I guess their name is also ironic because they wrote an op-ed that was unsigned, which I thought was kind of interesting,

00:16:41.160 that they want to censor so-called climate deniers, which I suppose would include me, because I just don't believe that taxes change the weather unless it's for the worse.

00:16:54.360 Well, not technically. I've been waiting, but, you know, our taxes go up, but the weather here definitely hasn't changed to, you know, any great extent.

00:17:00.880 It was a bizarre editorial.

00:17:02.740 This editorial irked a lot of people because even people that are environmentalists, and there are a number of environmentalists in Manitoba

00:17:10.940 who do not agree with various climate change practices and policies, some of these ideas are backwards, even with regards to Lake Winnipeg.

00:17:18.380 And Councillor Klein, Councillor Nason, wanted steps taken that could more immediately reduce the phosphorus level in the lake.

00:17:27.320 And this met with opposition because immediate action isn't as sexy as the longer term, built the taxpayers for a lot more billions.

00:17:34.680 So I'm surprised the free press didn't get even more blowback from that editorial than they did,

00:17:41.000 but I think the fact that it became unsearchable very quickly might have helped quell the fires.

00:17:47.600 But again, coming from a newspaper that in the last 10 or 15 years has become, you know, increasingly attached to federal liberal governments,

00:18:00.220 federal liberal causes, it's just very disappointing if they, you can run an editorial,

00:18:08.700 but if it isn't strong enough for you to let it stand, and it's also remarkable coming from a newspaper that, again,

00:18:15.000 10 or 12, 10 years ago or so, came out strongly against the CRTC censoring a particular radio program in the East,

00:18:21.440 or I think in Quebec, so they're all for free speech, unless it's, you know, in their pages.

00:18:29.840 And then it's like, we don't want to hear so-called climate denial in our newspaper,

00:18:36.100 and it shouldn't be heard anywhere else by our newspaper.

00:18:38.800 Eh, fat chance.

00:18:40.720 That actually moves us into the next thing I wanted to talk to you about, because it is a free speech issue.

00:18:46.120 Everybody has the right to protest, and you also have, you have a secular life,

00:18:55.520 but you also have a non-secular job with the J.ca, I think Western Canada's leading Jewish journalism.

00:19:04.460 And you guys went down to cover the protest at the U.S. consulate.

00:19:11.320 And, you know, when you sent me some notes, and I was thinking, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

00:19:16.800 they went to cover the protest at the U.S. consulate, they must be protesting for Iranian freedom.

00:19:24.000 They must be, you know, siding with the U.S., less of a protest and more of a rally.

00:19:29.940 But I'm dead wrong, aren't I?

00:19:32.240 I just want to make clear to the audience, I didn't go down there, but Ron East, our publisher, did,

00:19:36.660 with some other individuals, I was indisposed that day.

00:19:43.260 That was an interesting event in the way that it came together.

00:19:50.000 The Winnipeg Peace Alliance was at the forefront of it.

00:19:52.420 It's basically a wing of the Communist Party, is a good way of putting it.

00:19:56.660 And they went to the police and city officials and said, we're going to be doing this.

00:20:05.100 We don't have money for permits.

00:20:06.820 We're going to do it anyways.

00:20:08.380 And they wanted to originally rent a flatbed and put speakers, you know, sound equipment on the flatbed and have speakers.

00:20:17.980 Because you can't go in front of the U.S. consulate.

00:20:20.380 It's in a high rise.

00:20:21.740 Let's be clear here, though.

00:20:23.520 They were protesting the American, well, Donald Trump.

00:20:28.740 Yes, American imperialism.

00:20:30.360 Yeah, turning Soleimani to hamburger. 0.97

00:20:33.100 One of the worst terrorists the world has ever known.

00:20:35.440 They were there to protest that.

00:20:37.900 Yes, that was their intention.

00:20:39.240 They were not there to protest.

00:20:41.100 There's no, you cannot find a mention in Winnipeg media of the, of the,

00:20:46.700 same as you won't see anything in Winnipeg media about the yellow vest protests continuing in, in France.

00:20:52.360 You will not see a word in the Winnipeg media about the anti-regime protests that have gone on in Iran.

00:20:59.340 I don't know that a single Winnipeg newsroom mentioned the, the, the, the slaughter of, of, of dissidents,

00:21:07.140 the, the implicit threat to the families of dissidents or people who are sympathetic to dissidents,

00:21:13.340 that you're going to be capped next.

00:21:14.740 Uh, you don't hear none of that.

00:21:17.080 And so you got these Michigoum that are going to protest the American imperialism. 0.91

00:21:21.160 But the problem is that the Iranians kind of spoiled it for them, uh, by attacking a civilian airliner. 1.00

00:21:26.420 And so it was scaled way back and ended up on the sidewalk with about 50 or 60 people, the usual suspects.

00:21:32.260 Yeah.

00:21:32.700 Um, uh, Ron East, uh, attended with a couple of other people.

00:21:36.940 Well, it took about 20 seconds for a protest about ostensibly about, uh, Iran, about, uh, the will of the Iranian people,

00:21:49.220 the independence of the Iranian government to make decisions, whatever they think they're in favor of or protesting. 0.97

00:21:56.260 It took about 20 seconds for some jackass to recognize, run and say, hey, why don't you go bomb Palestine or something? 1.00

00:22:03.580 Every time. 1.00

00:22:04.540 So, yeah, every, every time the Jew haters can't help themselves.

00:22:09.260 So, you know, the, the event on Saturday was remarkably unremarkable.

00:22:14.660 I think it would have been a very different scene.

00:22:17.460 Uh, I, there did not seem to be a, um, and people who were opposed to the Iranian regime.

00:22:24.360 But you can be sure in the broader context that, uh, you know, our conclusion, and, and I say this, uh, uh, in part because we were educated, Ron and I, by the best.

00:22:36.620 That would be his father, Yoram HaMizrahi, who knew a two or a thing or two or three about intelligence gathering and analysis as, uh, among other things, commander of Israeli forces in southern Lebanon.

00:22:47.680 Uh, you know, it's pretty evident that this, uh, that, how do I put this?

00:22:52.220 The evidence strongly points towards the notion there was somebody on that plane that needed to be eliminated from the regime's point of view, somebody caring, whether it was a chip, whether it was knowledge between their ears.

00:23:03.920 This is in our estimation, we're not experts, don't have any information on what we've gathered from usual news sources.

00:23:11.380 This is what was up.

00:23:12.780 Is there somebody on that plane?

00:23:14.160 They want out.

00:23:14.660 Now you look at the Canadians that died of whom there's, and this has had a lot of reverb in our country because the people that died.

00:23:22.220 None of them have been identified as activists, rabble rousers, uh, protesters, um, political organizers, not one that I've seen so far from Edmonton, from the East or from Winnipeg.

00:23:39.400 These were, um, peaceful, polite, highly educated human beings.

00:23:46.500 Yeah, it's, it's, the reverb is such that, uh, we know somebody who's related to, there's a mother and, and, and son who died.

00:23:57.580 We know somebody who's related to them through marriage.

00:24:00.580 Yeah.

00:24:01.100 So this reverb around Winnipeg, uh, has been just Winnipeg, nevermind Edmonton.

00:24:06.780 Yeah.

00:24:07.040 It's been extensive.

00:24:07.960 Uh, and, uh, this clearly is a chilling message because frankly, anybody who leaves Iran to come to North America or presumably the, uh, East, the European union, uh, and comes here to be a woman scientist in one case. 0.68

00:24:27.660 Right.

00:24:27.920 And a lot of them were scientists and academics.

00:24:30.380 Yeah.

00:24:31.500 These aren't Mullah lovers.

00:24:33.840 No. 0.95

00:24:34.440 These, these, these are not by any stretch, the kind of Islamist, anti-Western, uh, Christian and Jew hating.

00:24:45.180 These are like, for lack of a better term, people that want to have normal lives.

00:24:51.080 These were Canadians for all intents and purposes.

00:24:53.400 These were Canadians.

00:24:54.620 They came here to be free.

00:24:56.080 They came here to get educated.

00:24:57.680 They came here for a better life and they died leaving a Tehran airport because the Iranians did it. 1.00

00:25:06.740 Yes.

00:25:07.500 And, and, and that, that anybody in this country, uh, I mean, the one good thing about, about the conflict, uh, that emerged in, uh, in terms of the, the, uh, U S, uh,

00:25:22.060 flexing their muscles, so to speak, it, it has drawn a lot of the creeps out of the woodwork.

00:25:28.720 Oh yeah. 1.00

00:25:29.780 I, I mean, you've seen it where you are obviously and the broader national context, but you can see who the imbeciles are. 0.99

00:25:36.300 They don't understand the difference between supporting, you know, the, the sovereign rights of a national state, uh, and, uh, supporting terrorism, supporting, uh, uh, murderous, uh, ideologues. 0.98

00:25:51.640 Uh, unlike Toronto and the Winnipeg police were certainly concerned.

00:25:55.960 They didn't want to, didn't want to have a Toronto situation on their hands, but unlike Toronto, you did not have the same degree of Hezbollah supporting signs.

00:26:05.860 You know, it was much more muted here than in Toronto.

00:26:09.660 And, uh, it's especially shameful that the Jewish members of the Trudeau cabinet, uh, have, uh, uh, not raised their voices publicly.

00:26:19.200 Jim Carr, uh, what's the guy from Toronto?

00:26:21.520 Michael Levin.

00:26:22.140 Nice guys, I'm sure.

00:26:24.220 But they got to speak up about this because, uh, this affects, uh, Jewish and Christian communities in Canada too.

00:26:30.720 They need to show some leadership and instead they're showing followership and it's a disservice to Canadian voters and a disservice to, to Canadians who, who let there be no mistake.

00:26:42.340 And, and, uh, uh, this was, is not news to people that have followed this for, for decades.

00:26:48.360 This strain of Islamism in Canada is growing. 1.00

00:26:51.360 Uh, they are unchallenged. 0.86

00:26:54.000 Uh, and when they feel that they can parade in the streets of Toronto chanting, uh, you know, death to America.

00:27:00.720 And, and, uh, chanting things about the Zionist entity and all that kind of, all that kind of hate.

00:27:07.060 Uh, and the police stand by and defend, and defend it and portray anybody, you know, even tries to cover it as being a provocateur.

00:27:17.420 You can see that clearly the police system in Ontario needs a thorough cleansing with bleach.

00:27:23.560 Yeah.

00:27:23.960 No kidding.

00:27:24.720 No kidding.

00:27:25.380 Um, I want to talk to you about something else that you guys have been covering at the J.ca and that is this series of, well, you've done a series of stories, two stories, I think, about these anti-Semitic faxes.

00:27:38.480 So it's like going back in anti-Semitic time, um, uh, that are popping up, I guess, in Winnipeg.

00:27:46.120 Well, this was a bizarre story.

00:27:48.620 The root of it is in an incident in 2014, uh, where, uh, a fellow who, uh, had some very legitimate concerns about the way things were being run at Winnipeg City Hall.

00:27:58.540 Uh, and, uh, he expressed them, but he, he framed his, his concerns about, uh, sideways land dealings and favored, uh, you know, favored sales and such things.

00:28:09.300 Legitimate concerns that are still being discussed, debated in Winnipeg to this day, uh, including in a civil suit the city has brought up now, uh, in relation to the police headquarters.

00:28:20.920 But this guy framed everything through a, the lens of an anti-Semite.

00:28:25.360 I actually have the original Schittler's list.

00:28:28.640 I've never moved it from, like, within arm's length of my desk here, strangely enough.

00:28:34.680 Uh, and, and it was, uh, a diatribe about, uh, at the time, uh, Mayor Cates, other people that he's, he was linked to, or, and still is, presumably, whole bunch of, any Jewish name that came across any, anything at City Hall during that time period.

00:28:50.460 This guy put out something called Schittler's list.

00:28:52.840 Well, lo and behold, a fax had gone around to a number of law offices in Winnipeg, uh, where this, a fax had been sent around called the, uh, 2020 Schittler's list.

00:29:06.160 And this had many, uh, a couple of the same names as the prior list going by memory.

00:29:13.500 But basically, if you were a Jewish lawyer and you'd run into trouble with the law society, which happens to lawyers of all religious background, your name's on the list.

00:29:24.340 And some of it was in the realm of gossip.

00:29:26.740 Yeah.

00:29:27.480 Lawyers, uh, inappropriate behavior in their law offices.

00:29:31.200 And so it was just factual.

00:29:32.660 Lawyer, you know, you, you, you, you know, lawyer Mendel represented, uh, so-and-so recently in a court case.

00:29:39.640 Well, okay, that's factual.

00:29:41.840 People are entitled to a defense.

00:29:43.480 Sometimes you do draw judgments on the base of who defense counsel represents.

00:29:47.340 That's true.

00:29:47.840 But basically it's a list of, uh, 10, like a top 10 list, like a letterman list with a variety of names mentioned, as I've illustrated.

00:29:57.060 You know, a lawyer represented some other Jewish guy.

00:29:58.840 And this went around Jewish law offices.

00:30:01.600 That's how we became aware of it.

00:30:04.860 Um, now, uh, this was brought to our attention, not only from the newspaper side, but because at the end of the year of last year, because of incidents, including things like what's going on in Toronto, Ron announced the formation of something called Shomrim, which would be community patrols.

00:30:21.840 Uh, uh, uh, and this would be a response unit.

00:30:25.980 So for instance, uh, Sheila's garage gets hit with a, some sort of anti-Semitic graffiti. 0.53

00:30:34.280 Uh, you, you tell me, uh, granted you're not in an urban area, but what would you do where you are in Alberta?

00:30:40.040 So your instinct, you yourself, what would you do?

00:30:43.060 You call the cops.

00:30:44.560 What else?

00:30:45.240 I would check the trail cams first to see who did it.

00:30:48.660 Most people don't have that option.

00:30:50.360 I know.

00:30:50.860 Now you can call Benny Brith, but that isn't really very effective.

00:30:55.980 They'll put out a report about the incident, but they don't do anything.

00:30:59.380 Right.

00:30:59.760 Uh, it's not the way they operate is a good way of putting it.

00:31:02.060 You call the Jewish Federation, your case would be the Jewish Federation of Edmonton, I guess, or Calgary.

00:31:06.900 Edmonton.

00:31:07.700 They aren't going to do anything.

00:31:09.360 Yeah.

00:31:09.860 Shomrim would come out with like a bucket brigade, would take steps to mitigate that, would examine the cameras if there are, would look around the neighborhood for evidence of other graffiti,

00:31:19.940 and would try to, try to develop a profile.

00:31:22.240 So Ron announced this at the end of last year, that this initiative, he was going to be undertaking this initiative for community patrols.

00:31:29.240 So that, uh, uh, at least there's some eyes and ears out there, not just from a synagogue looking out their door, what's going on, but they would go around Winnipeg at different points, uh, not, it takes a half hour to get from one end of the city to the other in terms of where Jewish locations are.

00:31:48.160 And just create a presence.

00:31:50.660 The next thing that happened was he gets contacted like 10 minutes later.

00:31:54.740 This is like quarter after eight in the morning by a Jewish organization that said they had received a Schittler's list in December that was called 2019 and sent us a copy, which I provided to you.

00:32:07.680 So you were able, without knowing who every lawyer was, you recognize, I'm sure some of the names and others you wouldn't have recognized.

00:32:15.620 I did not publish the list.

00:32:17.400 It turns out there was a 2019 list.

00:32:19.040 It was like a dry run.

00:32:21.120 Some of the names got moved around.

00:32:22.760 They moved up or down in the rankings a little bit.

00:32:25.740 Uh, but what we determined was that either of these more recent Schittler's lists were a copycat.

00:32:31.900 It has nothing to do with the guy that put it out in 2014, who was sued for defamation and sanctioned by the courts and who has been quiet as a church mouse since from our estimation.

00:32:43.740 He was, you know, he's a very reactionary.

00:32:47.860 Uh, uh, I think he would be called a far right kind of guy, but he's kept quiet.

00:32:52.200 He doesn't want any more trouble with the cops or the courts.

00:32:54.540 And he went way too far.

00:32:56.860 So this was designed to look like that original list.

00:33:02.560 And a lot of people thought like people literally thought it's him again.

00:33:08.140 Well, it wasn't.

00:33:09.260 It's actually somebody from the Jewish community who was behind this, who's, uh, not had a good experience since immigrating here, has run afoul of various institutions and courts and whatever.

00:33:22.180 And so following the Burmack's principle, and there's an awful lot of the Burmack's, uh, uh, Burmack's syndrome going around right now, where you have false flags being raised by people that are Jewish, normally Jewish, not necessarily involved in the Jewish community, involved in synagogues, involved with federation, involved with Jewish organizations necessarily.

00:33:46.980 But either as a false flag to stir up stuff, to make it seem like anti-Semites are on the run, but really what they're trying to do is settle a few grudges and stir up stuff and, uh, and, you know, get their moment of glory, uh, without being named.

00:34:03.060 So I can tell you, I'm, I guess that sort of wasn't apparent to you from the look on your face in our correspondence that in fact, the source is, uh, somebody who immigrated to Winnipeg, uh, uh, uh, uh, and who's been on the outs in the Jewish community.

00:34:17.280 I, uh, there's, uh, the, one of the longest lists of court litigation I've ever seen on the court's page.

00:34:27.040 And I've seen some long ones, uh, but, uh, all sorts of altercations with, uh, private alter, uh, not altercations, I mean, physically necessarily, but, you know, civil disputes over money practices, eligibility, uh, some of the, look, some litigation, this individual has been successful.

00:34:47.280 They're convincing the court that they're agreed, uh, and they're clearly a clever individual, but they, they put this out and, and there's no real, you know, there's no positive purpose to it, but it upset a lot of, if I can use the term old Jews, the older members of our community were very upset by this Schittler's List point.

00:35:05.580 Well, I guess.

00:35:06.660 And so the first two stories led to an explosion of interest in creating show marine programs.

00:35:12.000 And there's more cities than that that have asked, um, uh, that have started asking, but in this case, it seems likely that it's going to be established Vancouver, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Montreal within the next 90 days.

00:35:25.800 And so we got off in terms of the J.ca, uh, people go to the website, they'll, they'll be able to see those stories, uh, in terms of the front page, the, the, the news lineup of the, these faxes.

00:35:36.560 And just to read it and, and realize not just how bizarre this is as an acting out exercise, but how bizarre it is, um, for somebody to, you know, the police didn't lay a hate crime charge because the Winnipeg police don't, their interpretation is that a Jew can't commit a hate crime against the Jewish community.

00:36:02.060 And then as that was breaking out, the next story hit my desk, which was also a total head shaker.

00:36:09.180 Yeah, that, go ahead.

00:36:11.160 You may as well get right into it.

00:36:13.420 Um, what was your reaction when you saw that, Sheila?

00:36:17.100 Cause we haven't talked about it.

00:36:19.220 The picture was shocking to see.

00:36:22.700 It was, it was, you know, in this day and age, I can't even believe that these pictures are being taken even as a joke.

00:36:34.320 I just, it's so, it was shocking to see it.

00:36:37.800 A Friday afternoon, while we're still working on this copycat backstory a little bit.

00:36:45.320 And there's other things, man, there's stuff going on here that, that we have not yet gotten to, uh, in the middle of this run says, hang on your hat.

00:36:55.000 I'm sending you a picture.

00:36:56.480 And he sends me the picture and I'm looking at it and it's like, here's this kid playing like Gestapo.

00:37:04.020 He's playing dress up.

00:37:05.100 Yeah.

00:37:05.220 And then, and we've cropped that picture.

00:37:07.320 So it's in an apartment and there were some things on the wall, nothing bad, but it was a normal, like very normal, nice looking residential Christmas setting.

00:37:16.980 But when you look at the picture, you see there's somebody else with their hand, you know, on the kid's shoulder and the other arm like this.

00:37:24.220 You could see he's, somebody's writing, putting seemingly another swastika on the kid's back.

00:37:30.120 So this child, uh, who is, we've learned, uh, barely teenaged.

00:37:36.900 Yep.

00:37:38.860 He's given his camera to some other kid to take a picture.

00:37:42.360 Yep.

00:37:43.240 He's got a swastika here.

00:37:45.200 The armband, which I thought was an armband, I think was actually drawn on.

00:37:49.040 I think that's color crayon or coloring like red marker with a very bad swastika on it.

00:37:54.900 So you can tell that the kid like try to do it on his own arm and it's upside down.

00:38:00.440 So now the other kid jumps in as artists.

00:38:02.880 Yeah.

00:38:03.500 To make a long story short, this child seemingly without adult supervision.

00:38:08.180 And we, we immediately, you know, Shomrim did its work in terms of research with on the ground in Regina.

00:38:16.480 I contributed background research journalistically trying to put some pieces together.

00:38:22.520 There's no indication that any parents were involved.

00:38:26.600 Uh, the adults that seem to be around this children are well-respected coaches in the Saskatchewan amateur sports scene.

00:38:36.240 Oh, that's a shame.

00:38:37.220 We had to make a decision about what to say, what not to say.

00:38:41.480 Yeah.

00:38:42.040 Cause it's still a kid, right? 1.00

00:38:43.560 Kids do stupid stuff. 1.00

00:38:45.040 Yeah. 1.00

00:38:45.420 The kid does it, you know, he's, you know, look, you know, latchkey child, Christmas time.

00:38:49.440 Yeah, sure.

00:38:49.920 And he turns around, hey, I want to, let's do this.

00:38:53.460 And the next thing, you know, the kid is, is deckled in swastikas.

00:38:56.880 Like he's going to go in a, in a March in Skokie or something.

00:39:00.700 Yeah.

00:39:01.060 Um, this child showed, he, he, he got a picture on his phone and he snapchatted it to other children.

00:39:10.340 And to like his friends.

00:39:12.920 And then his friends showed it to their friends.

00:39:16.320 And one of their friends showed it to their mother who went through the roof.

00:39:21.220 Uh, yes.

00:39:22.140 And then the parent, now the parents were stuck and they actually went to Shomrim to Ron and asked him to get involved in terms of like calling the authorities.

00:39:36.020 And this was a long discussion among a lot of people, including us consulting with a child psychologist about, you know, what do you do as a reporter?

00:39:47.420 Am I going to phone up the father and go, Hey, sorry to catch you, you know, before, you know, youth sports practice, but so I can't do that.

00:39:56.200 Yeah.

00:39:56.620 This is a family issue.

00:39:58.260 I think now I think you're, and you're handling it more carefully than the CBC would the CBC would have doxed everybody in that entire family.

00:40:07.700 A hundred percent.

00:40:08.540 I agree with you.

00:40:09.960 I, we, we had this on the Friday and sat on it through the weekend.

00:40:15.400 And when we, uh, got more information about how this was spreading in Regina, the concern that was being raised, people talking to professionals there, should they go to the, you know, like what's the order of operations?

00:40:29.040 You go to the school first, you go to the cops first, you go to the, whatever children, child and family services is called Regina.

00:40:34.800 This caused a lot of angst among parents in Regina.

00:40:40.160 I mean, this is a playmate of their, uh, of their own children.

00:40:44.420 Uh, but we learned that threats as this started to spread and the reverb happened, we learned that.

00:40:52.080 Uh, so how do I put this?

00:40:55.180 It wasn't a direct threat, but, uh, there was a suggestion that children attending other schools might want to tune up some kids who told their parents.

00:41:07.560 Uh, so, you know, at that stage, you can see that this, there's a little less childlike innocence behind this and maybe a little more malevolence.

00:41:20.720 Regardless, uh, regardless, the matter was reported to police and to school authorities.

00:41:26.000 Ron is in, in communication with some of these, uh, parents, uh, in Regina and, uh, I've not yet contacted, although by the time, as we tape this, I've not contacted, uh, Jewish community officials in Saskatchewan.

00:41:42.100 Although you notice, no announcement as of yet from them, CBC did not pick up on the story, although a CBC reporter was interested in it.

00:41:50.680 CBC as of today has not published anything as of, as of this taping.

00:41:55.060 CTV, Leader Post, uh, Star Phoenix, I'm trying to remember what the media outlets are in Saskatchewan.

00:42:02.660 Yep.

00:42:03.520 Gornish.

00:42:05.140 Don't, haven't touched it.

00:42:06.600 Where did this come from?

00:42:07.620 He could have just watched a documentary about World War II.

00:42:11.260 Or a video game.

00:42:12.420 He could have watched a video game, you know.

00:42:15.020 I watch all sorts of stuff now on YouTube that I wish I didn't watch.

00:42:18.900 Uh, from World War II.

00:42:21.420 Uh, and whether it's documentaries, home movie footage, you know, that kind of stuff.

00:42:25.920 I mean, this, in some, it's very disturbing.

00:42:28.380 And, you know, uh, for a, a, a kid, you know, around eight, nine, ten, and they, you don't have parental controls on, and they start seeing stuff.

00:42:38.480 But, yeah.

00:42:39.300 Um, I, I, I just am saying that even in, in our heyday, where World War II was always discussed, it was all over TV shows, uh, whether it was shows like, uh, you know, combat, or whether it was shows like Hogan's Heroes with the, you know, trying to put a comic spin on.

00:42:58.600 Yeah.

00:42:58.940 And the war, nobody ever thought it would be a good idea to take a marker and start dab, painting swastikas all over yourself and give the salute and, and pose for a picture and send the picture around to people.

00:43:13.100 It's so far removed from the realm of a joke, uh, that, that, uh, clearly there needs to be, and I, and I'm not a fan of the, you know, unnecessary intervention in family business with this by the state.

00:43:27.020 Yeah.

00:43:27.560 But obviously there's a need for something here and the media in Saskatchewan and across the country, across the country is silent.

00:43:37.420 And I, that, uh, a picture that's that shocking.

00:43:41.280 Yeah.

00:43:42.020 There should be stories about it.

00:43:44.060 Yeah.

00:43:44.620 Is this what's going on in, in, you know, in other communities in our country where kids have this mistaken belief that it's a good belly laugh.

00:43:54.840 Yeah.

00:43:55.460 To, to, to emulate, emulate the, uh, Hitler to the point of painting yourself up like him. 0.86

00:44:02.800 It's a, it's a, there should not be silence from the general media about this, let alone from Jewish federations, et cetera.

00:44:12.980 So that's how your 2020 started.

00:44:17.400 Let's talk about how your 2019 ended.

00:44:20.040 How was your new year's?

00:44:21.620 I was getting the finishing touches on a story on our year end story, an editorial.

00:44:28.000 I wrote safety of Canadian Jews in our own hands, not our leaders.

00:44:33.680 And I went through last year about our institutions in Winnipeg had been, been infiltrated.

00:44:39.320 Uh, the, the, the mood bringing in this, if not now, uh, rabbi.

00:44:43.420 And then the social planning council bringing in Linda Sarsour and that Winnipeg had been identified as a, a soft target.

00:44:49.400 Right.

00:44:50.080 Right.

00:44:50.600 So that the anti-Semitism and, and anti-Zionism could be peddled here under the guise of human rights and justice and, and, uh, whatever.

00:44:58.500 And then the, the knock, but they marched that, that, uh, was, was intercepted and where there was a detente attempted with the BDS leaders, the Palestinian leaders in Winnipeg.

00:45:09.720 And the attacks on, on, okay, root.

00:45:11.700 And I, I, I particularly focused on a tweet from Ben Freeman on December 29th, the Western post Holocaust golden age of Jewry is over. 0.90

00:45:22.140 This relatively peaceful period was an anomaly in our history of the Jews. 1.00

00:45:26.000 And now we are back to normal.

00:45:27.880 We have to recognize this.

00:45:29.380 So we are prepared to deal with it.

00:45:31.900 And I firmly believe this.

00:45:34.580 And so the silence of Jewish federations and CJ, et cetera, uh, that this isn't going to serve our purposes.

00:45:40.680 And I went through, you know, some of my own family, my family history, uh, uh, uh, my grandparents and my, and my parents and Jewish institutions and Zionist federation.

00:45:51.660 And basically it was a call to action.

00:45:54.020 And also in all the branches of Joe laser and the Jewish federation that he thinks that the siege is the way to go. 0.58

00:45:59.860 And, and we think that institutional, um, Jewish community organizational, you know, the way they approach these things too much diplomacy, not enough action.

00:46:10.280 So at the end of my piece, I'm just finishing it up and my phone rings and it's a name comes up on the phone, all capital letters.

00:46:21.200 So generally that's a spoof call when it's all capital letters.

00:46:23.920 Most people don't type their own name in, in capital letters.

00:46:25.840 So I ignored the call and I looked the name up and thought, well, you know, just in case it's a local and the name hit with a unique spelling of a first name.

00:46:35.360 And it hit on Facebook of somebody who's a teacher in an inner city Winnipeg school.

00:46:40.460 Well, well, okay, at the very least that poor person's being spoofed.

00:46:45.340 And, um, I, I'm not very comfortable with this, with the nature of this call.

00:46:52.280 And I phoned Ron and I played the call for him and he went, he went through the roof, his wife, Shirley, right through the roof.

00:46:59.140 And I said, look, let me, you know, they want me to call the cops.

00:47:04.180 And to me, the cops have, I know the cops have way better things to do on New Year's Eve than worry about a prank call.

00:47:11.180 And so I left it and I didn't, I said, well, you know, let me think about it and I'll, I'll call you back.

00:47:17.320 And I thought about it and I phoned the number back.

00:47:19.500 And, uh, a person answered and I ascertained that the person had borrowed their phone.

00:47:25.300 I'd lent their phone to somebody else to make a phone call.

00:47:28.180 And, uh, everybody involved had been drinking heavily.

00:47:34.100 The call said, was like a, a polite female voice.

00:47:39.920 And it said, hi, I'm calling from the Society of Cheap Jews. 0.99

00:47:44.940 We're just taking a survey to see if you're a cheap Jew too. 1.00

00:47:51.600 Oh, and we just got one reference on you. 0.99

00:47:53.900 So Marty, yes, you're a cheap Jew too. 1.00

00:47:56.420 You've been declared a cheap Jew. 1.00

00:47:58.140 Yay. 1.00

00:47:58.920 Take care of yourself now, you cheap Jew. 1.00

00:48:00.940 That was the phone call. 1.00

00:48:02.400 That was the end of my New Year's.

00:48:03.440 I'm writing a column about how the golden age is over.

00:48:09.280 Yeah.

00:48:09.640 And I get a phone call.

00:48:11.240 Because of the leadership role I've taken in Jewish journalism, in reporting these things

00:48:19.880 in our community.

00:48:21.220 And Ron, by the way, has gotten some action lately too.

00:48:24.300 And this is what happens to those of us that put ourselves at the forefront.

00:48:28.500 And, and, uh, this is as good a reason as any to explain why this requires the support.

00:48:34.100 And I want to speak directly for a moment, Sheila, not to the, the broader community of

00:48:38.260 your viewers who know I'm aligned with you on many, many political issues, particularly

00:48:43.120 as, as people in Western Canada, your Jewish viewers in particular, I want to address.

00:48:50.580 We are treated as outcasts in the work that we do by the Jewish establishment in Winnipeg.

00:48:57.340 They are scared of anybody who draws attention, I guess, because they don't want to get a phone

00:49:02.160 call where they're called a cheap Jew, I guess, because they don't want their families harassed,

00:49:07.400 I guess, because they don't want to walk up, uh, on portage in Maine to a rally and be

00:49:12.460 accused of being a Zionist.

00:49:15.000 But between working on the expansion of Shomrim, which is obviously necessary for the safety

00:49:20.120 of our Jewish communities in this country, including places where Shomrim is probably,

00:49:26.020 it's probably more needed in, in, I'll give you an example, probably more needed in Hamilton

00:49:31.200 than it is in, in Vancouver in some ways.

00:49:37.020 The Jewish leadership of our country is not taking the bull by the horns.

00:49:41.780 They are interested much more so in building their own fiefdoms, building their own silos,

00:49:47.520 feathering their own nests.

00:49:49.180 We're busy going broke doing this stuff for the last year.

00:49:52.140 It, for those of you, especially, we've heard from some in Winnipeg who cut back their donations

00:49:59.140 to the Jewish Federation because they aren't happy if Federation doesn't speak out on things

00:50:03.480 and some of their programming, you know, they're great at delivering services for old, you know,

00:50:07.200 the old folks' homes.

00:50:08.680 I'm not arguing that.

00:50:10.400 They're in the social service delivery field.

00:50:12.640 They aren't in the keeping Jews safe and informed business. 0.79

00:50:16.000 That's our business.

00:50:17.280 And in 2020, for this to continue, I am beseeching you, I don't do this lightly and I didn't tell

00:50:24.840 Sheila I was going to do this, but particularly your Jewish viewers, Jewish viewers of the

00:50:30.340 rebel, which so often addresses issues. 0.90

00:50:33.320 David Menzies has more balls than any Jewish reporter in this country. 0.97

00:50:38.280 When you step over that line and you start exposing Jew hatred, you start exposing anti-Zionism 0.99

00:50:45.160 for what it is, the intention to eradicate the Jewish people from the face of the earth 1.00

00:50:49.760 yet again. 0.96

00:50:51.720 The Jewish establishment in Canada, and America too, but in Canada, will not tackle this.

00:50:58.760 And they won't support anything that doesn't have their own fingerprints on it.

00:51:01.640 And they won't put their fingerprints on anything that actually stands up on their hind legs and

00:51:06.300 says, can I say this on your program? 0.98

00:51:09.080 Go screw yourselves. 0.99

00:51:10.300 You're not pushing us around anymore. 0.99

00:51:11.860 We're not going to be bullied.

00:51:14.880 We're not going to have our political beliefs, our belief in a democratic Jewish state assailed 0.99

00:51:23.080 as being colonial, white, and all that other crap. 0.97

00:51:27.500 And so for this work to continue and to flourish, I'm asking you, especially those of you that 0.97

00:51:33.580 have cut back in your favors to the Jewish Federation and the old time organizations, this is our 0.98

00:51:40.680 future in our hands, as my editorial indicated.

00:51:44.100 And when you go backwards, what do you see?

00:51:46.260 Hitler Youth, copycat facts, anti-Semitic facts sent to Jewish offices, our safety's in

00:51:52.300 our hands.

00:51:52.960 That is the last four stories that we put up.

00:51:55.100 You can see them on the J.ca.

00:51:57.000 Your support is essential to this work continuing.

00:52:00.860 And whether it's by advertising on the J.ca, and we have readership outside of Winnipeg,

00:52:05.020 it's across the world now, following these stories, understandably, whether it's through

00:52:10.260 sponsorship, whether it's through a direct contribution, whether it's earmarked for the

00:52:17.900 journalism side or for the organizing the chapters, the Shomrim chapter side, because

00:52:21.760 there's going to be expense in terms of vast communication devices, handbooks, meeting

00:52:27.380 with area officials, making sure there's good relationships with police, et cetera.

00:52:31.440 This is going to require backing.

00:52:34.200 It's going to require resources.

00:52:36.200 You may have resources available to you outside of, you know, I'm not saying, you know, write

00:52:40.260 a check like it's my bar mitzvah.

00:52:42.240 But if you've got resources that can help us aside from the finances, step forward, contact

00:52:48.540 me, go through the newspaper website.

00:52:51.260 You'll see my email address.

00:52:52.620 You'll see how to contact myself and Ron East and get involved and get involved today.

00:52:58.780 So if you can help, if you can contribute, if you can make a donation, if you want to

00:53:03.580 run an ad series, whether it's for your business or to just voice your support or to send a

00:53:08.920 message to your local federation, a Jewish federation or whatever, please, please, I'm

00:53:15.400 asking you, contact me.

00:53:17.500 Well, Marty, I think what you do is such a valuable resource for the Jewish community in

00:53:22.660 Winnipeg.

00:53:23.020 And, you know, not good for my blood pressure, apparently.

00:53:26.760 No, but you know how I feel about people who tell the other side of the story.

00:53:30.660 Marty, I want to thank you so much for your time.

00:53:32.500 I've taken up a lot of it and we'll have you back on the show really soon.

00:53:43.220 You know, I don't think the people of Winnipeg are as progressive as the rest of us are led

00:53:49.460 to believe. I just think they are vastly underserved by their mainstream media and we are vastly

00:53:54.960 underserved by the mainstream media who are telling the stories of Winnipeg.

00:54:00.520 And that's why I think what Marty does is so great.

00:54:03.640 He fills a void on the secular side, but he also fills a void telling the other side of

00:54:08.740 the story in his career as a Jewish journalist also.

00:54:13.560 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:54:15.280 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:54:17.220 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:54:20.800 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:54:45.280 It's kind of so great.

00:54:51.580 Yeah, thanks for listening.

00:54:52.280 One more time, thank you.

00:54:53.680 Thank you.

00:54:54.380 I'm sorry.

00:54:54.760 Like tonight.

00:54:55.360 I've had a lot of time.

00:54:56.500 I'm sorry.

00:54:57.240 You tell me I don't think it's regretting what thatnia's been to point out for at home.

00:54:59.160 I don't have to do glaub.

00:55:00.220 I'm sorry.

00:55:01.300 But the fact that they all grew down to this.

00:55:02.280 I know it all is good.

00:55:03.700 Yeah, I mean it was good.

00:55:04.240 Yeah.

00:55:05.500 This is funny.

00:55:06.400 I do tell you.

00:55:07.800 Yeah, I don't think it's good.

00:55:08.680 It's bad people.

00:55:10.000 I don't know.

00:55:10.760 But it's true.

00:55:11.680 I don't know.

00:55:12.580 It's bad people.

00:55:13.040 Okay, I don't know.

Rebel News Podcast - January 16, 2020

Manitoba check-up： Handgun bans in Winnipeg and fake hate crimes

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