MENZIES： The Finale Episode of Rebel Roundup ft. Sheila Gunn Reid & Tamara Ugolini
Summary
The Ontario College of Psychologists wants to reprogram Dr. Jordan Peterson, his alleged crime? Well, apparently, Dr. Peterson espouses the wrong political viewpoints. Sheila Gunn-Reed has all the disturbing details.
Transcript
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Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you, in which we look back at
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some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favorite rebels. I'm your host, David
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Menzies. So the Ontario College of Psychologists wants to reprogram Dr. Jordan Peterson, his
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alleged crime. Well, apparently Dr. Peterson espouses the wrong political viewpoints. Sheila
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Gunn-Reed has all the disturbing details. Remember when the educrats running public schools were
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concerned with, oh, you know, kids learning stuff like reading, writing, and arithmetic? So why is
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it that these uber-woke educrats are now seemingly obsessed with the sexual orientation and sexual
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identity of young children? Tamara Ugolini will try to make sense of it all. And letters, we get your
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letters. We get your letters every minute of every day. And you had plenty to say about my monologue
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regarding Erin O'Toole's recent essay denouncing those F. Trudeau flags. Yeah, that's right. The
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former leader of the Conservative Party of Canada is more concerned about the hurt feelings of
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Prime Minister Blackface McGroper rather than those Canadians who are having their rights and freedoms
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trampled by the Justin Trudeau Liberals. Which kind of explains why O'Toole is the former rather than
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the current leader of the Conservatives, doesn't it? Those are your rebels now. Let's round them up.
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The College of Psychologists' job is to make sure that psychologists practice psychology in an
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ethical way. For example, if a psychologist were to take advantage of a patient. But they've been
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hijacked by activists, by people making complaints against Dr. Peterson, not for anything Peterson's done
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to them as patients because none of them are patients. The complaints are about Dr. Peterson's
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political comments on Twitter. Seriously, let's go through some of the offending tweets.
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When one Twitter user claimed that the planet was overpopulated by human beings, Jordan Peterson
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tweeted, you're free to leave at any point. When the Ottawa Police Chief Steve Bell threatened
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parents participating in the Freedom Convoy with having their children removed from the area prior to
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the start of any police action. Dr. Peterson tweeted, children removed? How exactly? Why exactly? By whom
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exactly? Sent where exactly? And for how long exactly? Think this through Canadians. This is a bad idea.
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In response to a New York Post article about Sports Illustrated putting an arguably obese model on their
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cover, Jordan Peterson tweeted, sorry, not beautiful. And no amount of authoritarian tolerance is going to
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change that. What on earth does the College of Psychologists have to do with Peterson debating public
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political issues of the day? Now, you can agree or disagree with any of Peterson's political views,
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but where does a group of censors with the power to end someone's career get off telling them what
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they can and can't say about non-psychology things? Of course, they would never dare to do this to a
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left-wing psychologist. And of course, we wouldn't want them to do that either. Not only are they censoring
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Dr. Peterson, or at least they're trying, they've demanded that he submit to a coaching, a re-education
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about what to say in public politically. Some unknown censor now gets to tell a leading public
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intellectual what he can and can't say. And if he doesn't comply, he'll be banned from treating
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patients. That's just wrong. So pick up the phone and call this group, the College of Psychologists of
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Ontario at 416-961-8817. Now remember, please do not be mean. The person who answers the phone
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is likely just the receptionist and not the people demanding Peterson be censored. Be firm, but please
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be polite. Let them know that this is a witch hunt against Canadian values like freedom of speech and
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the right for people to hold a variety of opinions, including opinions that the establishment doesn't
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like. That's really the whole point of free speech, isn't it? To be able to criticize power, not just
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obey it. Tell these people to drop their case against Jordan Peterson. That number again is 416-961-8817
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or go to SavePeterson.com where you can see it again. At SavePeterson.com, we'll also have a one-click
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button that you can press to send an email to every single one of the 19 people on that censorship
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committee so you can put your disagreement to them in writing too. Dr. Jordan Peterson has changed
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lives. He's even saved lives. His books and lectures and videos have inspired millions of people,
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especially young men looking for meaning in life. That's why the left hates him and that's why they're
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trying to censor him now. It has nothing to do with how he treats patients and everything to do with
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his politics. Well, there you have it, folks, like something plucked right out of George Orwell's
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1984. Dr. Jordan Peterson is being called upon the carpet by the quacks who comprise the Ontario
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College of Psychologists, and the crime has absolutely nothing to do with any misconduct
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allegations with current or former patients. Rather, some snowflakes on social media took offense
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to Dr. Peterson's political viewpoints and the uber-woke docs who make up the Ontario College of
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Psychologists. While they believe an investigation is warranted, you can't make up this kind of
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craziness, folks. And joining me now for more on this very disturbing issue vis-a-vis freedom of speech
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is our chief reporter, Sheila Gunn-Reed. How are you doing there, Sheila?
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I'm great, David. Thanks for having me on the show.
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It's always a pleasure. Sheila, we're not even five days into 2023, and here we are with planet
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Earth still self-identifying as clown world. And really, this story takes the cake, doesn't it?
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The very idea that the Ontario College of Psychologists is suggesting that one of its members
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must think in a particular political fashion or else. Surely, this can't be legal even in Justin
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Trudeau's Canada, Sheila. Well, it's even worse than that because these are based on complaints of
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people who are not patients of Dr. Jordan Peterson. So the college is supposed to protect patients
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from bad doctors while they practice. But it's not designed to protect non-patients from the thoughts
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and musings of doctors they've never seen. But this is where we're at. We've got 19 people in this
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censorship panel, the re-education panel of Jordan Peterson, that are going to submit him to some sort of
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examination of his public statements that don't affect anybody that he was treating. That's the
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very scary part here, is that these are just internet censorship busybodies. And there are no
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complaints, as far as I can tell, from his own patients involved in any of this.
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Yeah. And Sheila, I mean, it's deja vu all over again. I mean, the way Jordan Peterson came to
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prominence, we go back, I believe it was some six years ago, University of Toronto, where he took a
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stand against compelled speech. He was, they were trying to force him to call various trans people
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z, zur, here, higher, all those phony baloney pronouns. And he said, no, I'm not putting up with
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this nonsense. He didn't bend the knee then. I don't see him bending the knee now.
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No. How did these censors think this was going to end? This is, as you say, Jordan Peterson.
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He's enormous. And his platform, he rose to prominence. I mean, he's always been a good
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author and a good speaker and a good professor and a good doctor, for as best as I can tell.
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But he rose to prominence, both in Canada and internationally, speaking out against compelled
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speech. He spoke at Senate hearings in the House of Commons in 2017 against compelled speech
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legislation, forcing people to use pronouns of other people under threat of hate crimes charges,
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basically. He spoke out against that. How did these gulaggers think this was going to turn out for
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them if once they decided they were going to come for Jordan Peterson? The man, I think,
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is the most preeminent speaker in the Anglosphere. I know in some places and during some periods,
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his books are outsold only by the Bible. So, you know, when you come for the big dog,
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you better have something better than hurt feelings. But as best as I can tell, that's all these people
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have. And Sheila, here's what the crux of the matter is, at least for me. What does politics
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have to do with the practice of psychology? What I'm getting at is that Jordan Peterson could be a
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Marxist. Jordan Peterson could be a libertarian. That's besides the point. You judge him on his
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practice of psychology. I don't know of any complaints that he's received pertaining to the
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practice of psychology. So why does this body of psychologists, why do they find it so important
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to discipline this man for tweeting out Pierre Polyev quotes and criticizing Justin Trudeau?
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To me, it has no relevance for the matter at hand. Right. And we wouldn't want this to happen to a
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Marxist doctor. Now, I wouldn't go to a Marxist doctor for treatment. Probably not. But that's
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the choice of the patient. Right. And if I had complaints against a Marxist doctor, it probably
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wouldn't be for their Marxist ideology. It would be for other things. We don't want Marxist doctors
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subjected to reeducation either. This is like what happens here is between a doctor and a patient.
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There are no patients complaining in all of this. But we've seen a lot of this happen during the
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course, especially of the pandemic. And that's a hypocrisy I'll get to in a second. These doctors
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organizations, as I said, they were initially there to protect patients from bad doctors. So there were
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sort of standards, but also to protect doctors from a government overreach. Right. Like they were
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organizations where, you know, there were standards in place and it was kind of at some,
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sometimes a restraining order from the government to protect the independence of the doctors.
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But right now we've seen that these organizations, they have really no interest in what's good for
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the patients. In fact, they are likely to censor doctors who are advocating for their patients. And
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we've seen that over the course of the pandemic, doctors who thought differently about COVID were
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censored, had their license threatened. And now doctors and psychologists who think differently
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about COVID, lockdowns, politics, now they're being censored. So these organizations, they have gone
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so far from their original intent, where now they're just the enforcement, the medical enforcement arm
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Well, and that is truly the scary thing, Sheila. How far does this rot start to spread? Medical doctors,
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lawyers, lawyers, engineers, you know, all those governing bodies, are they going to increasingly
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start to demand that politically you have to think a certain way or you're out or you have to agree to
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be re-educated? This is the stuff of communist regimes, is it not, Sheila?
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Yeah, of course it is. And, you know, where are the complaints against the psychologists who disregarded
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the psychological effects of lockdown? And we're out on Twitter advocating for lockdowns,
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knowing the psychological harm it would cause to, you know, vulnerable people, children. Where are the
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speech pathologists who advocated for lockdowns, even though they knew in their hearts that it was
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damaging to young children? There are no real complaints against those people, are there? It is
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just political complaints against doctors who think differently, not doctors who advocated for things
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that they probably knew full well would harm society. Sheila, one last question. How do you see
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this playing out? I mean, the way I look at it, there is no way Dr. Jordan Peterson is going to acquiesce
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to this star chamber trying to re-educate him. He can't, because if he did, he would lose his street
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cred, quite frankly. And besides, there is absolutely no moral or ethical grounds for
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Peterson to be hauled before this cabal in the first place. So what do you see, a prolonged legal
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fight? Or do you see the Ontario College of Psychologists going, yikes, look at the blowback,
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let's back down? I don't know how this is going to end, because I feel like the college is a little
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bit too invested in this at this point. The wise thing would have been to say, this is not in our
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wheelhouse. He, this is not a complaint from a patient. He's not saying anything that's damaging
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to patients. He's not, you know, advising things to his patients that will, would harm them.
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But they proceeded with this. So now how do they back out? And they know that they're in, you know,
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what do they call that? Like a chicken fight, chicken race, whatever it is, where, where they're in a
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staring contest with Jordan Peterson. And as I said, Jordan Peterson is one of the preeminent thinkers
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in the entire Anglosphere. And he has, I don't want to, the wrong word is cult-like following,
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but he has changed the, the minds and hearts of a lot of people. He's advocated for civil liberties.
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He's even publicly changed his opinions on a lot of things, even the vaccination. You know, he said,
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I, I took it because I wanted to be left alone, but I was never left alone. And so, um, I don't
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know how the college backs out from this, but I can tell you what's happening to them right now.
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And it's not pretty. So we launched a campaign at savepeterson.com wherein, uh, we provide the
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phone number to the college and you can call it. And I'm going to tell you, if you're watching me right
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now, do not give the person who answers the phone, the business, that is the receptionist. If you call
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and I would like you to call, so I'm not talking out of it, I'm encouraging you to call, but if you
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call, do it during business hours, be polite, be firm, don't use profanity, express your discontent
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with them, lodge your discontent with them, but do not be hateful. Do not be threatening. Do not be
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violent. Um, because that's what they're looking for. They want to discredit anybody who supports
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Jordan Peterson. Don't give them what they want. So if you go to savepeterson.com, you'll get the
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phone number. I've got it there for you that you can call these people during business hours,
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but also on that very same website, before we go on, I've got one little click and you can send
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these people an email. So you can also register your disgust with their behavior in an email that's
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pre-written. You just have to click it and it'll go. And we want to flood these people with more
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emails and more phone calls than they have ever had before. Because if they thought that they could
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come for Jordan Peterson and win, imagine what they're doing to other psychologists along the way
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who may have expressed some disagreement with lockdowns or the government or whatever, and they
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don't have the platform and profile that Jordan Peterson has to fight back. We need to save those
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doctors too. Well, that's a very good point, Sheila. And like you said, it's hard to see
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where this is going to go. We don't have a crystal ball. But for right now, my money is on Dr. Jordan
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Peterson because of his integrity, because of his moral compass, because he does not bend the knee
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to the woke cancel culture, which is what this cabal of psychologists are. That's a real life
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representation of that. They are in for the fight of their lives. So I would suggest to
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the college, throw in the towel right now and try to leave with what little dignity you have
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on this file. Sheila, a wonderful piece. Thank you so much. And you have a great weekend, my friend.
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You got it. And that was Sheila Gunn-Reed somewhere in the northern hinterland
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of Alberta. Keep it here, folks. More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.
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Tamara Ugolini here with Rebel News, bringing you two different school surveys.
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to be on the lookout for if you are a concerned Ontario parent with a child or children in the
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socialized school system. One is referred to as a student census and the other is a school climate
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survey. They don't mean climate as in global warming or this alarmist death narrative, but rather
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the general school environment and how everyone feels while in the classroom and at school.
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All of this reporting came from a viewer tip who shared with me that certain school boards were
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soliciting the gender identity and sexual orientation of children as young as grades four in a data
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collection initiative undertaken at school. Originally, I had wanted to know just how much
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this kind of program was costing Ontario taxpayers. And spoil alert, it was roughly $2.5 million.
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So I had filed an access to information request, also called an ATIP, which you can support and find out
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more at rebelinvestigates.com. But now this ATIP has turned into a campaign with a petition,
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an email blast that calls on Ontario's education minister, Stephen Lecce, to investigate this
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sexualization of sexualization of children and end the inappropriate line of questioning and data
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collection of children in their classrooms. You can support this work and follow along at
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stopclassroomgrooming.com. Because I've discovered through email communications within that previous
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ATIP response that the line of questioning about gender identity and sexual orientation was explicitly
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meant to be sent home for parents and guardians to complete on behalf of their children or the
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students. But the school boards bypassed the parental protection in place. They have instead implemented
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these ever so slightly differently worded surveys and conducted this massive information gathering
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exercise unbeknownst to parents and guardians in the classroom. It's sneaky, it's inappropriate,
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and I've discovered all of this as my investigation continues. So the first survey is called the
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student census, which is developed and implemented by the division of the Ministry of Education,
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referred to as the Education Equity Secretariat, that is responsible for overseeing at-risk students
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and ensuring that they reach their full potential. Then there's the school climate survey, which is
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developed and implemented by the Indigenous Education and Wellbeing Division, that is dedicated to,
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you guessed it, equity. That's what equity secretariat Patrick Case told me during our phone
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conversation, a separate report that you can check out. I will link to it in the written component of
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Well, one thing is ministry intention. The other thing is how things get exercised at a local level.
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So I can't swear to what each of the 72 boards might have done. Do you understand what I'm saying?
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Um, but, um, if it's the school climate survey that we're speaking about, then that may be handled
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differently. And that's, um, in the, uh, Indigenous Education and Wellbeing Division of the Ministry
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that handles that. I see. Okay. That's, it's quite convoluted. It all sounds incredibly complicated,
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but we're actually trying to, over the next couple of years or so, bring these things together to make
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it a whole lot more rational, right? Um, but the school climate survey started before the census,
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um, the student census, um, the student census. And they actually captured different things. One of
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them is more focused on, um, student anecdotal accounts of their experiences. And then the other
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one is more, uh, numeric. The one that's administered by my office is more numeric.
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Yet the two surveys appear to be mostly interchangeable, but I've received tips that the student census
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survey, which again was supposed to go home to be completed by parents of students in grades four
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to 12 was instead completed in the classroom. And in many instances, unbeknownst to parents.
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Well, you know, folks, maybe I'm a bit of an old fashioned square. I thought that going to elementary
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school was all about learning the three R's yet our publicly funded educrats seem to be absolutely
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obsessed with the sexual orientation and the sexual identity of young children. The question
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is why joining me now for more on this situation that is equal parts baffling and disturbing is
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Tamara Ugolini. Hey, how are you doing there, Tamara? Well, in spite of all the woke madness plaguing
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our province, I'm doing well. What about you, David? Yeah, I'm, uh, I'm waiting. I'm hanging
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on until the inevitable backlash comes, Tamara. And I, it can't come, uh, soon enough, uh, for
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the pendulum to reset itself. But Tamara, let's get to the crux of the matter on this story.
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What is the ostensible policy reason for these surveys in the first place? Why is it that the
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Ministry of Education and several school boards are so concerned about the sexual identity and the
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sexual orientation of elementary age children? You know, it falls under this umbrella of equity,
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inclusion, and tolerance. And it actually comes out, uh, I, I'm going to be doing updated reports
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on this, but I'll give you a little bit of a teaser because this came in part through some
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legislation introduced by the Doug Ford conservatives, progressive conservatives, I might add,
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in 2018. And so it was a policy or slash program memorandum. It's titled number 145. And it's all
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about promoting positive student behavior. And so they developed all these divisions within and under
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the Ministry of Education in terms of, you know, the indigenous and equity, um, equity secretariat.
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And it was these sort of divisions underneath the Ministry of Education or within their umbrella
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that went ahead and implemented this student climate survey and the student census survey. So there's
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actually two different surveys at play here. And so the muddy, the, the waters are pretty muddy when
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you're trying to decipher and discern between the two because they are so similar, but they're slightly
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different in the way that they're conducted. So one is explicitly directed to be sent home to be
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completed on behalf of the parents in those younger grades. And then the other one, the student climate
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survey can be done in the classroom and largely unbeknownst or without the consent of the parents
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and or the guardians. So it's really concerning that for some reason, one survey is explicitly to be
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sent home. Yet the other one, which has very similar, and in some instance, even more overreaching
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questions can be done in the classroom under hopefully the guidance, but maybe not of a teacher
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and unbeknownst to the parents. Well, this is a very important point. I think Tamara, if this is so good,
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and this is all about advancing equity and everything else that the left stands for, why the secrecy?
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Why aren't parents being informed? Why aren't these surveys going home with the kids? What's
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the unspoken strategy here? Yeah, well, and as you can see from my latest report on the subject,
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when I called the Ministry of Education themselves, and I spoke to someone there who clarified some of
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the language around what I received personally as a parent home, which was that this school climate
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survey was being alleged to be a requirement of the Ministry of Education. What I discovered through
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my investigation is that in fact, it was just encouraged and voluntary. So when or if students
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attempted to be exempt or expressed, you know, being uncomfortable filling it out, they weren't
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supposed to be forced to engage in this survey. And also, the fact here is that in my discussion with
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the school board itself, they intentionally conduct these surveys in the classroom to garner a high
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response rate. So they know that if they send this home, or they try to give it to be completed at home
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with parents, that they aren't going to garner the raw data, which is what they point blank told me they
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were looking to solicit and garner, they won't get that response rate that they're looking for. And so
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they sneakily implemented into the classroom, again, unbeknownst to parents or the caregivers and
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I think you're right, Tamara, to which I have to say, how dare they? They are funded entirely, 100%
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by we the people, the taxpayers of this province, the parents who have children in their schools,
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for them to go on this, you know, ideological jihad, for whatever the ostensible policy reason
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really is. It's absolutely shameful. But what's even more shameful, I think, is the lack of
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transparency, given, again, we are the ones paying the salaries of these educrats.
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Absolutely. And that was something that I brought up also just as a parent myself, because this is
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kind of, you know, I'm trying to navigate this both as a journalist investigating instances that
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happened at other school boards that were way more aggressive and egregious than whatever happened
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at my school board, but still concerning enough for me as a parent. And so in trying to navigate
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this both as a parent myself experiencing this and as a journalist getting even more feedback from
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people's school boards who went above and beyond, like the some of the lines of questioning, and
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please do stay tuned for my reports, because I plan to continue following this beat and featuring some
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of the most disgusting lines of questionings put out by certain school boards across Ontario. But
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what I'm finding here is that parents are really left in the dark that any of this is happening. And
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unless they're playing a very active role in what's going on in the school and in the classroom,
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and also pushing back, like, for instance, my school board hadn't heard from anyone else that had
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concerns over a the way that the survey was conducted, or be the line of questioning involved in it.
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And so if parents aren't making their voices heard, then the school boards just left to their own
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vices. And again, as they say, in my most recent report, and I feature the the recording of the
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school board employee, where they say, well, this is your opinion, and we're of the opinion that this is
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appropriate. And we need to have this, this data and this information to deliver school services,
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which is another issue in and of itself. But why is the opinions of the senior level or
00:28:40.560
senior staff on a school board superseding the opinion of a parent? And how do they know the
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opinion of the parent, if they were never asked, whether or not this was appropriate, or they were
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never surveyed themselves to determine whether this line of questioning was something that they agreed
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should be instituted in the in a classroom. And so there's that issue there that parents are just
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being left in the dark, no one asked parents if they thought this was appropriate for their children
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to be subjected to. And also, the fact that they are just prying on these these young children to
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garner raw data and a response rate for things that, in my opinion, are not at all relevant to
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delivering educational services to a student population. Like, why does a school need this
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information to adequately educate students? And the funny thing about many of these surveys is none of
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it asks, you know, whether or not parent pupils and students are feeling stimulated by their their
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education, whether or not they're feeling, you know, that their answers and their questions in terms of the
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curriculum is being met, whether or not they're being pushed to think critically or nothing about the
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three hours, as you mentioned, you know, you're reading, writing, and your arithmetic are garnered in these surveys.
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It's all just woke ideological jargon. I agree with you, Tamara. I think there is no relevance. I think
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the entitlement by the school boards and the ministry people behind this, it's beyond the pale. But one of
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the biggest issues, of course, is the whole issue of age appropriateness. You have, as you said in your
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report, kids as young as grade four being surveyed on very adult material. Now, Tamara, whether you're
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buying liquor, tobacco, fireworks, lottery tickets, getting a driver's license, voting even, we have
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ages, age benchmarks in which you're allowed to do everything that I just listed. How is it all of a
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sudden that age appropriateness goes out of the window when it comes to sexual identity and sexual
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orientation? Yeah, well, this is all under the, again, the Doug Ford, allegedly progressive
00:31:01.400
conservatives who instituted this curriculum. They campaigned on removing this new revamped sex ed
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curriculum. And then they received so much backlash from these far left ideologues that they reinstituted
00:31:15.220
it just very quietly and under the radar. And so in this curriculum, it's determined that grade fours,
00:31:23.760
and these are children, you know, depending on when your birthday is, these could be kids as young as
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eight years old. It's determined that it is appropriate and grade level for them to learn about
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and know their gender identity and sexual orientation. And for me, I say that if a child at that age
00:31:41.320
is aware of what they prefer and like sexually, then there should be phone calls made to child
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protective services, because that is a red flag for abuse. And this line of questioning is grooming
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101, to be quite frank. And, and in my opinion, anyone under the age of 18 should be proceeding with
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caution when filling out a survey without their parental guidance. I mean, now that I've started to see
00:32:06.140
what some of these school boards are soliciting from very young demographics, and some of them do go
00:32:11.200
down to kindergarten, like some of these school boards are acting very far out of their jurisdiction
00:32:15.440
and out of what the ministry has actually put forward to them. And going and targeting those
00:32:21.140
younger demographics, it's absolutely grotesque and disgusting. And, and it, again, it just has
00:32:28.140
nothing to do with delivering education. And I'm of the firm belief now that I'm starting to see more
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and more that parents should opt their children out of any and all surveys that ask personal questions
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across the board, not even just within school, but anywhere that your child is being surveyed for
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their raw data. I think that parents should take a proactive role and exempt them completely.
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Well, you know, Tamara, I'd love to go to some Ontario PC event and ask Ontario Premier Doug Ford,
00:32:54.600
what the hell he's thinking. But as you know, he'll call the police and have me charged with
00:32:58.600
trespassing. You're not allowed to ask impolite questions anymore. What a disgrace. What a flip flopper
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of a cosmic degree. I guess the, the final question I have for you, Tamara, is that there was some real
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perverse irony here because while this ministry, while so many school boards are obsessed with the
00:33:20.820
sexuality of children, meanwhile, as we see year after year, the student achievement scores for students,
00:33:28.680
especially in math, is going into the sewer. So what children are supposed to be learning,
00:33:35.060
the important things children should be learning, that's going by the wayside. But my goodness,
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we're going to spend millions of dollars to find out what sexual orientation and sexual identity
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little Johnny and little Janie subscribe to. Unbelievable. Tamara, last word goes to you, my friend.
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Well, I want to go back there for a minute when you said that, you know, you would be arrested for
00:34:00.940
asking impolite questions. And in my, these, this, this survey, the nature of these questions
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is impolite. This is grotesque. It's disgusting. It's unnecessary. And as I already mentioned,
00:34:12.800
it's grooming 101. And yes, we have seen just repeatedly over the years, the constant degradation,
00:34:20.260
degradation of the schooling in Ontario and, you know, arguably Canada as a whole,
00:34:26.520
but especially post COVID where we saw unprecedented school closures and children missing school for
00:34:33.180
government sanctioned lockdowns. And the priority here doesn't seem to be on getting those children
00:34:40.040
caught up or getting them to excel or exceed in the school system with revamps to curriculum or a
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targeted approach in that way, or surveying them to see how they're doing at school. And if they need
00:34:53.780
more assistance or if they are not being, as I already mentioned, adequately stimulated and have,
00:35:01.000
have work that's garnered and geared toward their actual grade level, no, no, instead, they're going
00:35:06.960
to find out whether or not you identify as a two-spirited, bisexual, transgendered, disabled person.
00:35:16.280
And if you're being bullied on the schoolyard, because somehow that matters for the delivery of
00:35:21.980
your education. The other thing about these survey questions, and I kind of rolled a couple of buzzwords
00:35:27.560
into one there is that these children, these young, young grade level children can identify as anything
00:35:34.360
that they want, they can select as many as they feel might apply, or none at all. It's the fact that
00:35:41.740
this is being done and is being, you know, put out to, let's say, 10-year-old boys, how accurately do
00:35:47.600
we really think 10-year-old boys are going to answer a school survey that has all of these funny words
00:35:53.680
on it that they're just going to make a joke out of it? And so the fact that the school board thinks
00:35:57.500
that this is like a serious data collection survey, what they're going to garner real, real data to make,
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I don't know, informed choices on how to deliver education, it's so out to lunch and surreal.
00:36:08.940
Textbook bizarro world. I can't even believe that we're living in the state of affairs that we are
00:36:15.440
currently. No, you're so right. And I'll tell you, Tamara, in the almost 40 years of being
00:36:19.540
practicing journalism, and I'm not making an exaggeration here, I find the people associated
00:36:25.140
with education, school board people, trustees, the educrats, as I call them, I find them to be
00:36:32.140
amongst the most stupid people I have ever met. They really need to go back to school. And it's not
00:36:38.840
to learn this rubbish, it's to learn actual common decency and common sense. Tamara, thank you so
00:36:45.100
much. It was an excellent report. Keep your eye on this because we know nobody else in the mainstream
00:36:49.760
media is doing it. You have a great weekend, my friend. Thank you, David. Likewise. Got it. And that
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was Tamara Ugolini in Coburg, Ontario. Keep it here, folks. More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.
00:37:01.780
But that was then and this is now. So let's get back to that mystifying essay. O'Toole's opening
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line is this, quote, one of the hopes I have for 2023 is to see fewer profanity laden Trudeau flags
00:37:19.040
across Canada, end quote. And then to double down on this most curious New Year's wish, he rehashed this
00:37:26.700
very statement on Twitter. WTF, indeed. For starters, when one produces content, one must understand
00:37:35.980
who comprises the target audience. So it is that when a former Conservative leader comes across as an
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apologist for Prime Minister Blackface McGroper, who is this essay hoping to curry favour with?
00:37:51.060
The mainstream media? The rank and file of the Liberal Party of Canada? Perhaps Jagmeet Singh?
00:37:57.800
Or maybe Ontario Premier Doug Ford? Or perhaps it's all of the above? Because really,
00:38:02.960
can you tell the difference? I can't see the difference. Can you see the difference?
00:38:08.140
No, I can't see the difference. Can you see the difference?
00:38:12.720
I say this as the person who ran against Justin Trudeau in the last general election and someone who
00:38:19.280
remains very critical of his record in government, end quote. Ooh, very critical of Justin's record,
00:38:27.360
you say. Good golly, Miss Molly, you don't think that's a little bit harsh, do you, Aaron? Ooh,
00:38:33.720
critical. It dithers on, quote. But as I told my kids during the national campaign, Mr. Trudeau was my
00:38:40.820
political opponent, not my enemy. These flags and the hyper-aggressive rhetoric that often accompanies
00:38:48.980
them are slowly normalising rage and damaging our democracy. Since so many people that display the
00:38:56.580
flags claim to be conservative, this might also be an appropriate time to tell them that these flags
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are the very antithesis of what it means to be conservative, end quote. No, Mr. Aaron O'Toole,
00:39:11.220
you are the very antithesis of what it means to be conservative. Tell your kids that life lesson.
00:39:19.180
Full disclosure here, folks, I'm not a big fan of profanity. You will rarely witness me dropping an
00:39:26.020
F-bomb if you have a good point to be made. It can be done so without vulgarity, although I'll tell
00:39:33.660
you I was indeed on the cusp of uttering an F-bomb or three while reading O'Toole's gibberish. But
00:39:40.180
unlike O'Toole, I do not condemn those individuals who brandish F. Trudeau flags. The problem here is
00:39:48.080
that Aaron O'Toole seems to be oblivious when it comes to the concept that is known as cause and effect.
00:39:55.580
Which is to say, if this stately gentleman were to put down his mint julep for a second and get off
00:40:03.520
his ricotta cheese candy ass and, you know, venture out to where the protests are happening in which
00:40:10.040
those F. Trudeau flags are being displayed, then maybe he would get an understanding for the lack of
00:40:17.000
decorum in the public square these days. Maybe then the ever effeminate Aaron would discover the
00:40:24.580
justified cause for the collective anger, such as people losing their businesses thanks to
00:40:32.020
nonsensical COVID-19 rules, or people losing their houses, or people being fired for not agreeing to
00:40:39.340
being jabbed by an experimental vaccine, or people having their democratic rights eclipse thanks to the
00:40:46.480
federal government employing the emergencies act to shut down a peaceful protest. But no, O'Toole has no
00:40:53.820
empathy for these people. Rather, he's more concerned that Justin Trudeau might suffer from
00:41:03.880
Holy ghost of Christmas past. Yes, over the Christmas time break, Aaron O'What's-His-Name published an essay
00:41:11.480
that was absolutely guaranteed to enrage grassroots conservatives. Why? Well, I guess you can't teach an
00:41:19.520
old dog new tricks. How sad O'Toole could have won the 2021 federal election. During the first two weeks
00:41:27.360
of the campaign, Justin Trudeau endured two very, very bad weeks, whereas O'Toole was quite stellar.
00:41:34.060
But then, inexplicably, O'Toole began flip-flopping on everything from carbon taxes and the gun grab to
00:41:41.340
vaccine mandates. And results, so many disgruntled conservative voters simply stayed home, and another
00:41:48.620
victory for the Justin Trudeau liberals emerged absolutely pathetic. In any event, we received a metric
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tonne of feedback regarding O'Toole's astonishing essay urging conservatives to, you know, play nice
00:42:04.620
with a scandal-plagued prime minister who admires the basic dictatorship of communist China.
00:42:11.740
Unbelievable. R&B Unicorn writes, maybe he's preparing to cross the floor. Well, you know, if that's the
00:42:19.580
case, R&B Unicorn, very well then. Good riddance. That's where he belongs. And after
00:42:26.240
all, we can't have a functional conservative party with members who are conservative in name
00:42:33.440
only. Robert Parasso writes, now does anyone else here understand exactly why the establishment
00:42:42.260
adores this dude so much? Good point, Robert, but that's another reason why O'Toole is such a loser.
00:42:49.300
He constantly seeks the approval of the establishment, but when he was the leader of the conservative
00:42:54.480
party, he should have been seeking the approval of conservative voters. And alas, thanks to O'Toole
00:43:01.080
being so wishy-washy, and thanks to him being a closet liberal, so many conservative voters simply
00:43:08.260
stayed home on election day 2021. That was a tragedy. Ron A. writes, O'Toole, have you forgotten so quickly
00:43:18.060
what Trudeau and his little band of liars did to legal protest and the Canadian patriots from across
00:43:24.660
the country? Vilified, criminalized, jailed for daring to stand up to Trudeau, the absolute ruler?
00:43:33.240
There is a reason you are not leader. Well said, Ron. But again, O'Toole is more concerned with F. Trudeau
00:43:40.700
flags. I wonder if O'Toole shops at French Connection United Kingdom. That's the store
00:43:47.580
that goes by the abbreviation of F.C.U.K. Ooh, probably a little too risque for Lady Erin,
00:43:54.900
I would imagine. And finally, Dan Adam writes, this is the same guy who made the Parliament Hill
00:44:02.820
Port-A-Potty video. Bad taste. Now he doesn't like it? You know, brilliant point, Dan. I had
00:44:10.340
completely forgotten all about this absolute embarrassment. You know what? Let's roll that
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video right here to remind one and all what Aaron O'Toole considers to be a class act.
00:44:21.240
We're going to move Justin Trudeau out of this office into a more appropriate office.
00:44:29.360
Brilliant. Toilet humor. Even the audio was crap, no pun intended. Well, then again,
00:44:37.720
I guess it's only fitting. How embarrassing. Yet O'Toole thinks this was appropriate? What
00:44:44.340
a hypocrite. Well, folks, that wraps up our final edition of Rebel Roundup. Yes, beginning
00:44:50.580
on Monday, I will be co-hosting the Rebel Daily with Sheila Gunn-Reed. It will be basically
00:44:56.100
a combination of the Rebel livestream and this show, Rebel Roundup. It will air from 1 until
00:45:03.560
2 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. So as the late, great Billy Red Lions used to say, don't you
00:45:09.820
dare miss it. And so it is that I'd like to thank everyone who has tuned into this show
00:45:15.000
for the past five years. It has been a blast. In the meantime, have yourselves an awesome weekend.
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And hey, folks, never forget, without risk, there can be no glory. Good night and goodbye.