Rebel News Podcast - Miss Understood No. 10 — Be Bold And Keep Your Top On

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to Misunderstood, a show for all you culturally and politically misunderstood

00:00:12.360 ladies and gents. We are your hosts. I'm Kat. And I'm Nat. And today we're going to be talking

00:00:17.300 about body image, the over-sexualization of women, and the social pressure of trying to 0.98

00:00:22.200 look like Kim Kardashian. Yeah! But of course, first and foremost, we're going to start with

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00:01:34.480 How to build your confidence in your natural womanhood in a world that over-sexualizes

00:01:39.020 women. So this is from Evie. You guys know we love Evie. We love Evie.

00:01:44.180 So basically, Hollywood has been over-sexualizing women for decades. Goodness gracious. So Jennifer 1.00

00:01:53.880 Love Hewitt, for example, in the 90s was only asked questions about her body. Britney Spears

00:01:59.900 was over-sexualized as a young, young teen. She was 16. Exactly. She became a sex icon, I think.

00:02:05.140 And then, of course, recently, even more recently, Millie Bobby Brown, who recently turned 18,

00:02:14.380 has also experienced some creeps now that she's a legal adult.

00:02:18.400 Yeah. So this is obviously not new.

00:02:21.100 No, it's not new.

00:02:22.200 It's not new.

00:02:23.100 Yeah. Like you said, in the 90s, there was Natalie Portman, who was super, super young

00:02:28.720 when she came into fame. Beautiful people, but when they're children, it's super creepy

00:02:34.020 to obsess about their beauty and their looks when they are about to turn 18. They had a

00:02:40.420 countdown clock for Natalie Portman and for Millie Bobby Brown, and they've had them for

00:02:43.720 tons of celebrities I've seen in my lifetime, which is highly upsetting.

00:02:47.700 Yeah, it is. And I think it's interesting, too, because when you look at these celebrities

00:02:51.820 and when people are critiquing them, it's always like, oh, they're too much of a slut, 0.98

00:02:56.440 or they're too modest, or they're too young looking, or they're too old looking. And it's 0.99

00:03:00.500 like, we really can't win. Like women just can't win when it comes to voyeurs who are 1.00

00:03:05.240 looking in on us at any age. You know, it's kind of, it's fascinating.

00:03:09.180 Yeah, that's a really good point. And one of the things that I really liked about this

00:03:12.120 Evie article, I wrote down that to me, this is the thesis of the article. Here's a quote. It

00:03:18.240 says, with a society-wide denial of woman-ness on one side and the over-sexualization on the

00:03:24.440 other, how is a woman to know how to live in her female body and feel comfortable with her 1.00

00:03:28.180 femininity? Which I think is a really, we've talked about this before, where they're trying 0.78

00:03:31.440 to erase women. But then at the same time, you see, like, you go on Instagram, and it's

00:03:36.880 all just like, tiny waist and big boobs. And it's like, so on one hand, we are trying to

00:03:41.000 erase women, and we're, and young women are getting double mastectomies and changing their 1.00

00:03:44.920 pronouns. And then on the other hand, we're so, we're like, we're like, bombarded.

00:03:49.240 Yeah, we're like, plumped up sex dolls. And it's like, where is the average woman supposed 0.59

00:03:54.540 to fall in there?

00:03:55.560 She doesn't exist. And I'd argue that that's what the powers that be want. They want us

00:03:59.860 to be confused and miserable so that we will buy more products to make us Kim Kardashian 0.98

00:04:04.220 or to get our breasts removed. Like, they don't want us to be content. And I wonder if 0.89

00:04:08.980 it, kind of going back to even our conversation a couple weeks ago about the, you know, the

00:04:14.000 removing parents from a child's life so that they're a product of the state. Like, we're

00:04:18.380 easier to control and we're miserable. 0.87

00:04:20.060 Absolutely.

00:04:20.640 And I think that that's, yeah, that's another quote, I think, from the same article, maybe

00:04:24.720 different one that we've touched on. It's exactly that. It's like when someone who's

00:04:28.260 discontented and miserable, so much easier to control and manipulate. And from an advertising

00:04:32.520 perspective, I mean, we've both worked in marketing. All you're trying to do is manipulate

00:04:35.780 people into purchasing or to share or to recognize your brand. So like, it's hard to say, to point

00:04:43.360 fingers and say like, well, where's this problem coming from? Is it, is it advertisers? Is

00:04:48.360 it society? Like, what does that even, like, who, where is this pressure coming from? And

00:04:52.740 we know, like, the whole Kardashian phenomenon, it didn't start with Kim Kardashian. Like,

00:04:57.300 she wasn't around during Marilyn Monroe times where it's like, oh, the perfect female figure. 0.99

00:05:01.800 But it's just a weird thing. Like, is it, is it the elites trying to look down on us and say,

00:05:06.040 well, you need to look more like us? Or is it advertising companies saying, oh, you can look

00:05:09.420 like Kim if you spend more money? Or is it governments trying to create synthetic wombs? 1.00

00:05:15.140 Like, I think that's a great question. I, it's funny, because I think a lot of women, 1.00

00:05:18.480 when we start talking about this topic, we're like, oh, it's men's fault. Men have done this 0.76

00:05:22.340 to us. And I think maybe sort of to an extent, you know, I think that's where it maybe stemmed

00:05:27.420 from. But when you look at Vogue now, for example, Vogue has been setting the standard for beauty for

00:05:31.620 ever. And Vogue is run by women. Yeah, like, I'm I know there are men involved in the company. But 0.98

00:05:37.300 but the editor in chief is a woman and she has been for a long time. Yeah. So and so it's kind

00:05:44.120 of interesting. They set the standard of beauty. They set the expectation. So like, why are why are

00:05:48.860 we blaming men for the by the way, when it comes to the over sexualization of children, I think that

00:05:54.840 a lot of that is coming from men. I mean, specifically, yeah, Brown and stuff. Yeah, dude,

00:05:59.740 that's it's creepy dudes, you know, who are like, it's not old ladies here in the countdown

00:06:03.440 clock. Exactly. And I'm sure there are some creepy ladies. Oh, 100%. We're not putting 1.00

00:06:07.480 anyone in a box here. You can be creepy ladies. Yeah. But I kind of wonder, is this did we do

00:06:13.760 this to ourselves? I don't know. Yeah, it's sort of there's actually a family guy skit about

00:06:21.340 like cutaway about this where something about like Lois, I think she has like a porn tape come 1.00

00:06:27.480 out. And and her best friend, her next door neighbor, like barges down the door and she's 0.51

00:06:32.120 like, slut. And it's like, almost like we kind of not we, but like there is sort of this. Yeah, 0.98

00:06:38.200 I want to see Nat fail. There is this sort of underlying thing. I'm sure you felt it. I think

00:06:42.380 it's called the single white female thing where it's like you kind of want your friend to fail.

00:06:48.140 Like, I don't have friends that I want to fail. I just don't. I'm not friends with anyone who I would

00:06:52.880 be like, oh, I'm jealous of her. I want to see her fail. Like, I would just be like, oh,

00:06:55.620 that's a weird, creepy thought in my mind. Like, I'm not going to be friends with this

00:06:59.100 person if I feel this weird competition. But there are people I've had friends in my life

00:07:03.120 where I'm like, you want to see me fail. They enjoy it. Yes, they do. And it's sort of like

00:07:07.400 that is a micro example of this macro phenomenon, which is like, oh, like I kind of see it. We've

00:07:12.680 talked about this before where it's like, oh, like micro bangs are in style. You guys should

00:07:16.420 totally all get your hair cut like super, super short. And also, you know, have sex with whoever 1.00

00:07:21.260 you want. Ladies, like do whatever feels good. It's like, well, so that they can get venereal 1.00

00:07:26.240 diseases and you don't like there's to me, there's almost like I'm not saying it's women 1.00

00:07:29.960 and I'm not saying it's men, but there is a weird phenomenon with women where some have 0.91

00:07:35.260 friends that they don't actually want to see succeed. And like there's a great point. It

00:07:38.940 can be extrapolated to a larger society. I think that's probably it because I mean, and

00:07:43.880 it's weird going back to what we were kind of already talking about. Like we look at Lizzo,

00:07:47.680 for example, and everyone's like, yeah, we talked about like Janet Jackson and she's

00:07:51.860 like, yeah, Lizzo, you look great. And it's like, Janet, you have 800 packs.

00:07:55.620 Exactly. She's like jacked. But then also we're looking at, you know, we have an article

00:07:58.960 that we'll get to about Camilla Cabello. And it's like they were the paparazzi is like,

00:08:04.500 you know, criticizing her for having a normal body. Like she's not heavy. She's not anorexic. 1.00

00:08:10.500 She just is a normal, beautiful young woman. And it's like, so on one hand, we're praising

00:08:15.360 Lizzo for being clinically obese. But if you're a normal sized person, we, there's something wrong

00:08:19.720 with you. Like what the hell is going on there? Yeah. And there's also the whole like cellulite

00:08:23.860 thing where there's, you know, we can talk about the reasons why women have cellulite and men don't

00:08:31.020 on average. I think it's like 10% of men have cellulite. 90% of women do. But it's one of the 0.71

00:08:37.040 quotes in the article. I don't have it in front of me, but it's basically like, what do you,

00:08:42.080 when you see, uh, one of those trashy magazines at the grocery, what are they? Yeah. Like a tabloid

00:08:47.960 magazine. When you see a tabloid magazine and you see like, oh, like Hillary Duff's cottage cheese

00:08:53.220 legs. How is that supposed to make an average woman feel where like these people are like some 1.00

00:08:57.440 of the beauty, most beautiful, most fit, most rich people on the planet. And they have a couple of

00:09:01.740 dimples on their thighs and we're like, oh, they're so gross. And I'm like, like, I'm not going to bend 0.92

00:09:06.520 over in the daytime. But I think they're not actually specifically targeting these celebrities

00:09:12.060 to embarrass them. They want us to compare ourselves to them. That's because these people

00:09:16.140 will be fine. They can get rid of their cellulite if they really wanted to. I mean, there are a lot

00:09:19.940 of medical procedures I'm sure that they could undergo. I think it's about us. It's about targeting

00:09:24.500 us normal people. To make us buy the cellulite cream that Kim Kardashian sells that does not work. 0.73

00:09:31.120 You guys, you can't, I read an article about cellulite creams. It's like, you can't just put a cream

00:09:35.240 on your legs. I mean, we've all tried them, but really there's, there's only like laser that can

00:09:40.700 really get rid of the cellulite. Very expensive. And few people are the ones who are going to benefit

00:09:45.640 from that. So it's much easier to say, oh, if you buy this product or you go on this tiny tea diet,

00:09:51.920 you'll totally get rid of your cellulite. And it's totally disgusting to make those false promises 0.92

00:09:56.120 to people and also create the problem in their head where you're like, oh, I didn't even think about

00:09:59.480 my cellulite. Okay. Now I'm going to go home, look in the mirror, get upset, go online, buy cellulite

00:10:04.260 cream, doesn't work. Get upset. Think I'm fat because it didn't work on me or something like

00:10:08.400 that. It's this horrible cycle. And they want you, they want you like that. They want you,

00:10:12.420 they want us stuck in this. Yeah. Because we're consumers that way. Yeah, I agree. And I think,

00:10:17.160 you know, as an actionable item, I think what we really need to start doing is getting a better

00:10:22.340 understanding of our actual bodies and finding out what works, you know, to make us more productive

00:10:28.720 and content in how we look, I guess, you know, because like you were saying, they want us

00:10:33.680 miserable. They want us as consumers. But how do we stop this? Like, why, like, how do we get to a

00:10:38.880 point as women where we're just content with who we are and where we're at with our physical 0.97

00:10:42.660 appearances? Because we're never going to look like Kim K if we don't have the money to, you know? 0.59

00:10:47.320 I don't even want to look like Kim K. Well, exactly. 0.87

00:10:49.120 Yeah. Like, right. We probably don't, but, but so many people do. And you can see it when you go on

00:10:53.960 Instagram and you're like, oh, wow, is that Kim Kardashian? No, it's just some...

00:10:56.600 Everyone else. Yeah. This is any other person. Yeah. And, and not only like, how do we beat this

00:11:01.380 consumerism thing, but like, as a woman, like, I don't want to feel like a product of this like

00:11:08.460 weird sexual culture that we live in. Yeah. And so like, maybe my desire to look like, so let's

00:11:13.420 pretend I want to look like Kim Kardashian, like that desire is not even a real one. It's been like

00:11:17.840 foisted onto me and I'm going to buy all these products to look like that when I don't really

00:11:21.440 even want to. And I'm going to be objectified. And then maybe I get so sick of that, that I'm just

00:11:25.740 like, you know what? I'm a boy. Right. And then also let's not, not to mention that the trends

00:11:30.260 change. We were talking about that just now with the sunglasses. Yeah. So some, one day Kim K is 1.00

00:11:36.620 cool. The next day it's being like heroin chic or whatever. Yeah. So like you really can't win.

00:11:42.340 Yeah. You get butt implants to look like her. And then next month it's like, Ooh, flat bums are all 1.00

00:11:46.140 the rage. And it's like, ah, and I think that's the point here. Like we can't win. So we shouldn't try.

00:11:50.700 Don't even play. Yeah. Let's just stop playing their game. And of course I believe in taking

00:11:55.640 care of your physical health. I think it's okay to dress up. I actually think that it is good for

00:12:00.720 your mental health to put effort into your appearance. I think when you, like you feel

00:12:04.900 good when you look good, you know, I always look good. Yeah, exactly. And that's why she always feels

00:12:09.260 great. Um, let's go through the, the, the tips on the, um, the article. Cause they give you,

00:12:14.460 there's some, you know, there's some valuable ones, some ones that I'm like, I roll. Um,

00:12:20.000 yes. Can we pull up the article? Yeah, let's put up, there we go. She got it. Um, so number one

00:12:26.800 that they suggest is to learn about your cycle, which I think is extremely useful. Yes. Not

00:12:31.980 something that they even teach you in health class in school. They just teach you about periods and

00:12:36.140 don't have sex. And then it's like, okay, but why am I feeling this way during this month or this

00:12:40.620 week of the month? And why am I feeling this way? And don't eat sugar that week. Cause you'll

00:12:44.180 have terrible cramps. And why are you feeling bloated and angry? Like, why are you feeling

00:12:47.620 hungry? Like these are things that can help us understand ourselves. I agree. And I think part

00:12:51.820 of the reason they don't teach us is because they want us to buy the de-bloating tea to,

00:12:56.080 they're like, Oh, not elementary school. Like why don't they teach us? Maybe it's just because

00:12:59.440 a lack of knowledge back in the day when we were in school, like last year. But yeah, I mean,

00:13:03.320 more so as teenagers when we're like more susceptible to being influenced, I guess you're right in,

00:13:07.440 in elementary school, it's like, well, they should teach us about our cycles in elementary school.

00:13:11.880 Yeah. I think so too. And I think a lot of the onus could also be placed

00:13:14.100 on mothers to teach their kids about these things because that's the best person to learn 1.00

00:13:18.320 from. That's very true. Comfortable setting. I think a lot of women don't even know. I think

00:13:21.920 maybe this is like new stuff. Yeah. Cause I have an app that like tracks my cycle and it'll tell me

00:13:27.880 like, Oh, you're in this phase, like avoid alcohol because whatever, or you might be feeling extra

00:13:32.940 sleepy or whatever it is. And sometimes I'm like, no, that's not right. Cause it's not really attached

00:13:37.340 to my body, but sometimes I'm like, yes. Oh my God. Yes. Yeah. So it's interesting. And also we've

00:13:42.020 talked about natural forms of birth control as well. Knowing what cycle, like what part of your

00:13:45.880 cycle you're on is also a really great form of birth control because you really can't get pregnant 0.99

00:13:50.540 sometimes. You just can't. So that's your chance ladies. Yeah. No, it's, it's true. So I think that's 1.00

00:13:56.420 a great place to start learning about your hormones and feeding your body accordingly.

00:14:00.800 Yes. Exactly. In those situations. Feeling good is going to make you look good. Exactly. Instead of just

00:14:05.160 being like, what can I plaster on myself on the outside? Like maybe something internal will actually

00:14:09.460 give you that glow that you're trying to find in a bottle. Um, number two, explore the feminine 0.99

00:14:15.320 virtues and find ways to incorporate them into your life. Um, yeah. So, I mean, obviously they're

00:14:22.320 like a, there are qualities apart from our physical differences that do set us apart from men. And I

00:14:26.680 think that those aren't being embraced as much in modern society. And I think maybe that's why that's

00:14:31.800 maybe a part of why we're discontent in some ways, because we're not embracing our inherent nature.

00:14:37.400 And we talked about this already with the gender wage gap, even it's like some things just our

00:14:40.960 nature. And for some reason we are fighting that, like fighting those urges. Yes, exactly. Like,

00:14:45.460 well, one of the things on the list is like you're, you're, uh, it's like poise and beauty,

00:14:49.460 whatever, but like nurturing, your nurturing attitude, obviously some men are extremely nurturing

00:14:54.140 and that's always going to be a thing. Like manis, male nurses, like these are, these are men who

00:15:00.220 love to nurture and that's okay. They fall outside of the curve where mostly women are the ones who 1.00

00:15:05.620 are nurturing. And I feel like our society doesn't encourage nurturing. No, they want us all to be

00:15:11.440 these like boss business, you know, who are like the power hungry. Yeah, exactly. Like stilettoing

00:15:17.440 on people's throats the way to the top. Never getting married, you know, and, and having babies 0.79

00:15:21.420 and wanting to have babies is just egregious to these women, um, and people. Um, but that's a part 1.00

00:15:26.580 of who we are and we, it's okay if you don't want to do. It's almost like it's propagated the species

00:15:30.460 up until now. Sort of like a trend there. And it's okay if you don't fall into that, you know,

00:15:35.460 that's fine. Like no one's a monolith, but of course most, most people will fall or will,

00:15:40.920 you know, fight, be comfortable in that sort of situation, acting on those sorts of urges,

00:15:44.620 you know? Yeah. And it doesn't make you lame. No, no. There's nothing cooler than being a good mom.

00:15:49.820 I agree. You know, like cool moms. We need more of those. Yeah. Cool mom. Cool mom. You know?

00:15:55.180 Yeah. But not too cool. No, not too cool for school. Yeah. Don't give your kid like,

00:15:59.080 you know, ecstasy or something. Yeah. Don't do that. People will move on from that. That's too

00:16:03.480 cool. Yeah. That's our next one. Um, discover who you are and what makes you feel joy. Yeah. So

00:16:10.440 this one, you know, I don't, I don't really belong of the, to the philosophy of belief. That's like,

00:16:15.960 whatever brings you joy is how you should live your life. Like, yeah, as Christians, we kind of are

00:16:20.180 like, that's joy and happiness are not the most. End all. Yeah, exactly. It's more, it's bigger than that.

00:16:26.320 I think like be content with where you're at. I think contentment leads to joy. And I think if

00:16:31.680 you're just content with what you have and the blessings you have, that will, that will set you

00:16:36.700 apart from other people. And I think that will just spring you forward in your life. And I think

00:16:40.360 that's a really good way to combat this like consumerist bombardment that we're getting all

00:16:45.840 the time. Cause like, I feel it all the time. Anytime I go on Instagram, we talk about this all the time.

00:16:49.220 I'm like, I just bought a purse. Yeah. Why? Why did I buy that? We didn't need it.

00:16:52.800 We did not need that. But it's like this weird thing that, and I'm, I'm fighting it every third

00:16:57.280 time I close the app. Look, that's progress, but sometimes it'll get me, but it's like this feeling

00:17:02.080 where it's like, I'm not content with what I have. And this, this purse, which is so trendy now will

00:17:08.380 definitely bring me into this new echelon. Like what, Catherine, what are you thinking? That's so

00:17:13.840 silly. That's so silly. Right. And it's like temporary satisfaction. So temporary. Right. And I think 0.99

00:17:19.200 that's the same thing as we've talked about before on the show with like, um, the sex positivity

00:17:23.360 movement and like hookups, it's like, okay, it feels good now, but what, what are you going to do when

00:17:27.860 it no longer feels good? You're just going to keep having sex. You're just going to keep buying 0.59

00:17:31.020 purses. Like we need to, as you already said, we just need to be at peace with where we're at.

00:17:36.100 And I think, I think that'll really help us out. Yeah. And for me, a lot of that peace and

00:17:41.400 contentment has come because I've started going to church in the past couple of months and I've like

00:17:45.900 found God and that has made me feel super content, but that's not for everyone or they're not there

00:17:50.860 yet or whatever. So you can definitely find it in other places, family, um, your work,

00:17:57.080 your kids, obviously that's family pets, hobbies, yoga. Yeah. The church is a great one though. If

00:18:02.860 you want to try it. Yeah. I mean, I think you, you are created by God, so you will find your true

00:18:08.700 wholeness in that, frankly, like, of course you can look to other things. I agree, but I think those are

00:18:13.580 also kind of temporary. And I think ultimately like, like learning about where you came from

00:18:18.840 and who your creator is, like the God of the universe who like loves you. I think going from

00:18:23.740 there is really where most people will find peace, like wholeheartedly, you know? Um, but, uh, yeah,

00:18:30.280 I think to your point, like faith is just, I mean, it's the word. Yeah. It's faith. It's literally

00:18:37.180 like, I have faith that everything is going to work out or is how it's supposed to be. So that's like,

00:18:41.520 like kind of a synonym for content almost. I think so too. Yeah. And I mean, when you have

00:18:46.080 faith, there's no fear of the unknown. There's no, you don't need to compare yourself because

00:18:50.140 you know, you have faith that it's you're good. We're good. You guys, you know, and that's probably

00:18:54.620 why this modern culture we live in is so down on faith and religion because I, I hear it all the

00:19:00.620 time where it's like, I believe in God sort of, it's not religious. It's spiritual. I hear that. I used

00:19:05.540 to say that about myself because I did believe in God, but I was like, it's spiritual because

00:19:09.920 they didn't want to say it was religion because for some reason that has such a negative connotation

00:19:14.240 now, but it makes sense why they would throw that negative connotation on it. Because obviously

00:19:18.440 there are issues with organized religions. Like you can point to that. No, of course not.

00:19:23.240 But it makes sense why the big industry, the advertising industry and all these companies

00:19:28.000 would want you to be godless because then instead of looking to God for answers, you look

00:19:32.880 to your cream, like the government, the government, like, Oh, if I am feeling discontent, I will

00:19:38.100 buy this new person, have these cheek fillers, and then I will be content and beautiful and

00:19:42.740 all the pieces of my life fall together. It's like, well, that's, that's actually religion.

00:19:45.820 That's actually faith that you're looking for, but why would they want you to know that?

00:19:49.180 It's like a secret almost. It's like, it's actually faith. Like, yeah, it's so interesting

00:19:53.340 just how secularism has really impacted our self-esteem as women and as consumers. 0.99

00:19:58.180 And like sex, like sex, like they've made it so that, um, yeah, like, like having sex and 0.97

00:20:06.580 being sexy is like godly. And instead of trying to be good, you can say good Christian or you 0.99

00:20:12.880 can just say good people. But like, if we're trying to be good people, you know, I kind

00:20:18.080 of lost my train of thought, but it's like, they put sex on this weird pedestal and it's

00:20:21.840 like, that's what we should always be trying to look sexy. When we know that, especially

00:20:26.880 as women, our sexiness window is fleeting. It's small and it's fleeting. 0.97

00:20:32.120 Definitely. And what about the fact too, that your sexiness is more than just how you look.

00:20:36.680 Like, I think there's so much to say about like a woman's personality, a sexy personality, 1.00

00:20:41.480 whatever that means to a man is what they really find attractive about you. You know, because

00:20:45.540 even when we consider like sex on a more secular level, a man doesn't care if you look like 0.57

00:20:51.600 Kim Kardashian. He doesn't care if you look like Kate Moss. I just wants to get laid. 0.83

00:20:55.000 He just wants to get laid, frankly. And I think a part of that attraction is from your personality

00:21:00.200 and your character. Well, I think that's like the difference between getting laid and having

00:21:04.560 a long-term partner. Yeah. And young girls, and I'm glad I didn't fall into this when I was young

00:21:10.900 because I had so much good training, but young girls will give their bodies away to any man who 1.00

00:21:15.980 looks in their direction because they need that gratification because they don't feel beautiful

00:21:20.380 and they don't feel powerful without knowing that a man wants to have sex with them. 0.98

00:21:25.380 Yeah. No, I, I, I think that's one of the biggest pandemics of women are dealing with right now. 1.00

00:21:30.300 And I think going back to our topic of over sexual, over sexualization, goodness gracious,

00:21:35.100 let's pick it. It's a hard word. It's a hard word. Um, maybe the problem is so many young people, 1.00

00:21:40.980 especially with social media are being over sexualized and that's why they're seeking out,

00:21:45.340 you know, men and sex and, um, they're exploiting themselves, frankly, to find meaning because they

00:21:51.460 were kind of exposed to that way too young. And I, you know, like for example, Millie Bobby Brown,

00:21:57.260 it's, that's her name, right? Yeah. Yeah.

00:22:01.220 She's, I mean, who knows how that's going to affect her in the long run as she grows up. I mean,

00:22:05.700 and we had that other article about Cole Sprouse, um, talking about his Disney colleagues who

00:22:10.120 were over-sexualized at a young age. That's something he never had to deal with as a young man.

00:22:13.780 He saw it like destroy women that he, girls that he knew. And he was like, there's no way to like

00:22:18.840 recover from that. And it's like, the language is so dark. It's like scary. Yeah. Also, uh, in this

00:22:24.720 article, this E article, um, hold on, let me find it. Yeah. It, it was joking. Here it is. Um,

00:22:31.920 this quote Cole who began acting when he was six months old added that people always want to

00:22:37.340 criticize child stars for going nuts, but they don't want to address the trauma that comes with fame.

00:22:40.800 What? Six months old. How can you say that you started at, like, this is another problem. Yes.

00:22:47.140 What the heck are we saying? Like, if you want to put your newborn baby in a movie,

00:22:51.360 you're selling, like you're selling your baby. You're exploiting your child. Like I rewrote the

00:22:55.120 article title or the quote to Cole, who was six months old when his parents sold him to the

00:22:59.480 entertainment industry. Yeah. Like, let's just clarify that. Like Cole was not an actor at six

00:23:03.860 months old. So this poor kid has been in the entertainment industry his entire life. And at least it sounds

00:23:09.700 like he's pretty woke to what's going on. Yeah. Which is, thank God. Which is big for a Disney

00:23:14.480 star. Yeah. But I mean, and you know, like, as he mentions in the article, so we have the Miley

00:23:19.080 Cyrus's, the Demi Lovato's, these crazy girls who kind of spiral, you know? And it's like,

00:23:24.000 it's like, well, what did we do? Exactly. There has to be a reason why. And I think, I think it

00:23:28.420 partially stems from being over-sexualized as a young child. Yeah. Um, you never, and like,

00:23:33.460 you always have to raise the bar. Yeah. It's like, oh, how, how, like, and we've seen it

00:23:37.040 with Kim Kardashian. Like she, her, her outfits need to get smaller and smaller and more tight 1.00

00:23:41.820 and her waist needs to, yeah, it's, everything's more extreme as you see, like, it's just like 1.00

00:23:46.940 when you say something crazy on Twitter and it gets traction, you're like, oh, well, saying

00:23:49.600 crazy stuff on Twitter gets me attention. So that's why people start, and then you see

00:23:52.920 that thing, you're like, how did we get here? It's like, well, because people love a freak

00:23:56.000 show. Yeah. No, it's true. And then I, pushing these poor girls into this, oh, it's just

00:24:01.060 like what happened to Britney Spears. Yeah. Like those, you know, that story of her crying

00:24:04.820 in the, in like a, like a fast food store and like the paparazzi were, um, filming her

00:24:12.280 and she had to get away and she asked them, please, can I stay in here? And like, don't

00:24:15.020 let them in. And she was sitting in there, there's pictures of her crying and the paparazzi

00:24:18.400 are outside, just take snapping, snapping, snapping. It's like, you broke her. Yeah. You

00:24:22.340 broke her. And then you're like, oh, look, what a freak she is crying in a Burger King. 1.00

00:24:25.800 Like, it's so sad. That poor girl was sexualized from 16 years old. And you really 0.99

00:24:31.040 only see this with women in Hollywood, to be honest. Other than Michael Jackson, who 1.00

00:24:35.560 else can you say has gone off the deep end as much as like most women? Yeah, fair enough. 1.00

00:24:41.400 But that's because of Michael Jackson. They're the minority though. Yeah, they are. So, and

00:24:46.860 so if this is happening to women in Hollywood, Lord knows with social media, it's happening 1.00

00:24:50.660 to our young women, tweens and teens, you know, in North America. So this is something

00:24:56.180 to be watchful of, I think, because I do think it will have a detrimental impact on young

00:25:00.460 women as they grow up. I mean, there are studies about this, about how being over-sexualized 1.00

00:25:05.800 affects, you know, how you deal with intimacy when you grow up and relationships, even friendships,

00:25:11.320 your self-esteem, you know, I, it all just trickles down. And I think we need to start

00:25:15.580 paying attention yesterday. Yeah. And, and, you know, it's a larger problem, but it's getting

00:25:21.400 worse. Yeah. It's getting worse. And like women's mental health is deteriorating and their 1.00

00:25:26.600 body satisfaction is going down where it used to be bad. It was really bad. Like

00:25:30.880 in the nineties with the heroin chic look, it was really, really bad. But there's this

00:25:35.640 article here, um, from Evie again, Kim K's slim, thick body causes more body dissatisfaction 1.00

00:25:41.600 than 90 supermodel stick figures, according to a new study. So they said they surveyed 402

00:25:46.900 women between the ages of 18 and 25 and participants who compared themselves to the slim, thick influencers

00:25:52.380 experienced highly experienced significantly more weight and appearance dissatisfaction

00:25:56.700 than women who compared themselves to the thin ideal imagery. So I was trying to understand

00:26:01.320 why. I think it's cause it's impossible to achieve this look without having money to do

00:26:07.640 it. Yeah. Cause, cause exactly. So you, you can starve yourself and you can be thin. Please 0.63

00:26:13.240 don't, by the way. Absolutely do not. Um, that's our job. Yeah. Um, you can starve yourself

00:26:19.360 to look super, super skinny, but you can't make your butt explode at the same time. And 0.99

00:26:24.760 I've, I remember even when I was in high school, girls being like, I want a super tiny waist 1.00

00:26:28.780 and like a big butt. And it's like, it's only gotten so much worse since then because now 0.75

00:26:33.380 girls are like, you can, you can achieve those in the gym if you're already built like that. 1.00

00:26:38.640 That's the thing. You can't fight biology. No, you cannot. And not everyone's body looks

00:26:42.140 like that. And that's okay. Like some women in my family have super straight hips, not curvy 1.00

00:26:47.880 women, like hourglass, a giant, but skinny waist thing. Like that's again, like you mentioned, 1.00

00:26:52.160 it's a phase, it's a fad. It's not always going to be the style and you're still beautiful

00:26:57.040 if you don't have exactly those proportions. A thousand percent. Yeah. I think it really just

00:27:02.060 comes down to the fact that we need to start embracing our natural beauty and just owning

00:27:06.900 who God made us to be. It's you don't have to be beautiful. Like Kim, you're beautiful

00:27:10.900 like you. Exactly. And that doesn't mean we can't buy makeup and wear cute clothes and work

00:27:15.460 out and take care of ourselves and care about our physical appearances. I actually think

00:27:18.820 that will make you a more content person if you put effort in, you know, but like, let's

00:27:22.860 just like chill out here people. Yeah. But that's, I think that's what we're trying to nail down

00:27:26.820 here, which is, you know, probably not going to get nailed down, but it's like, where do

00:27:31.780 you go too far? Like, where's that perfect point? It's different for everybody, obviously,

00:27:36.160 but we're trying to find the balance between being like, okay, I'm genderless. I'm a genderless

00:27:41.960 blob who's never going to have children and, and down with a patriarchy. Okay. On one side. 0.73

00:27:45.880 And then on the other side, you're like, I'm a bimbo who just wants to like have a man

00:27:50.200 buy me a mew mew skirt. Like I do want that, but yes, with intelligence. Exactly. Like there

00:27:57.020 are, there's a healthy middle ground and that's not always going to be the same for everybody,

00:28:00.140 but that's, I think what we're trying to talk about now. And like, let's, we're going

00:28:03.920 to get close and we're going to figure it out. I think so. It's a big problem though.

00:28:07.940 It is a huge problem. Um, yeah, I don't, I, I think part of it just comes down to what

00:28:13.120 we already said. Uh, just starting with where you're at and being content with where you're

00:28:16.820 at. Oh, they had some more, um, no, they had some more like, uh, blah, blah, blah.

00:28:22.360 Action items. Yes. Action items on the EV article. I'm so disorganized once again.

00:28:25.820 Yeah. So one of them tablet, one of them was wellness. So, oh yeah, it's like choose wellness.

00:28:30.100 That's right for you. So that's a great, so take care of your, you know, your mind, body,

00:28:34.640 soul and spirit. And also like what we're talking about birth control, um, maybe birth

00:28:40.000 control isn't right for you and maybe following your natural cycle and eating more natural foods

00:28:45.160 so that you don't have, cause like I've experienced really, really bad period cramps. And then when I

00:28:48.760 cleaned up my diet, a lot of that went away. Absolutely. I think one of the great places

00:28:53.880 to start though, is just not rooting your identity and your appearance too. You know, I think like

00:28:58.900 because of social media, it's really hard not to fixate on your looks. And I think,

00:29:04.380 you know, it's so hard. Uh, it's even hard doing our job being on camera. You're like,

00:29:09.240 Oh gosh. Yeah. We're like, Oh my God. Yeah. You know? And I mean, you can see how it even

00:29:14.780 affects these Hollywood actors. I mean, there was another article about, uh, one of the Irwin

00:29:19.580 sisters. That's not what they're called. Baldwin. Baldwin. Yes. Oh my gosh. Alec Baldwin's 26 year

00:29:26.640 old daughter just had some, it's like a mini facelift. Yeah. And 26 years old. She got it

00:29:31.520 because she has skin here and she doesn't want, she wanted it to be more like, and I'm like,

00:29:36.620 you're, you don't, you don't need to worry about that. My, my theory, sorry. Yeah, go, go. My

00:29:41.020 theory is that she just doesn't want to look like Alec Baldwin. Okay. Well, I understand that. Okay.

00:29:45.020 He has a lot of stuff going on right now. You're like cutting ties. I get that. Yeah. I understand.

00:29:49.520 Just pull the whole face back. Like just get a new face that, no. Yeah. But 26 is too young for a

00:29:53.720 facelift. Right. Which means, I'm going to say it. And even though it's considered non-invasive,

00:29:57.220 you're still going, like you're still doing a procedure that you're way too young to be getting.

00:30:01.120 And your face isn't even done yet. Yeah. You're not even done growing. You're still like a growing

00:30:04.600 baby. And like the thing, remember we did that, um, we talked about Linda Evangelista and her cool

00:30:10.500 sculpting nightmare. Like who knows what, like what's her name? Baldwin. The long-term effects.

00:30:15.940 The long-term effects. Like your face is still growing and changing and you're, and you're like freezing it.

00:30:19.680 Like what if things are still moving and they're frozen in like an unnatural position and you have

00:30:23.700 like a cliff here. It's like, then you'll just have another surgery. And that's not good. No,

00:30:29.300 you're going to have another surgery to fix that. And then you're going to be like,

00:30:32.900 oh, I need this cream. Oh, I'm going to start my own cream company that tells you,

00:30:36.480 oh, this cream gets rid of your double chin. It's like, no, it doesn't. You had

00:30:38.820 cool sculpting on your chin. Like it's just such a, well, it's so toxic. It's a vicious cycle. And I

00:30:44.840 think it's scary that when these famous people who have access to all these beauty products and all

00:30:49.580 these treatments are also still undergoing procedures, it's like, well, then there's no

00:30:53.760 hope for the rest of us. You know, these people are already, as you said earlier, the hottest

00:30:58.580 people in the world and they feel ugly, you know, there's this article from daily mail. Oh yes.

00:31:04.100 Um, Khloe Kardashian, the self-confessed filter fanatic claims her brand promotes body positivity

00:31:08.580 in new campaign a year after she tried to kill candid bikini photos that leaked onto internet. 1.00

00:31:13.440 Yeah. So that's a mouthful. But basically, um, she has been quoted as saying good American has

00:31:20.060 always been more than just a fashion brand. It's a platform for inclusivity and body positivity. And

00:31:24.540 I'm like, says the girl who spent more money on plastic surgery than Elon Musk has on rockets.

00:31:28.780 Oh my gosh. A thousand. Like your whole body is silicone. She is a whole new person. If you 1.00

00:31:33.020 watch the beginning of the, uh, keeping up all of them, but her, I know you watch the beginning and

00:31:38.680 then you see her now totally different. I think it's a robot. Yeah. It could be a robot. And so

00:31:43.740 it's like, okay, your body positive. That is such BS. Yeah. You're a liar. And you're setting a bad

00:31:51.000 example for your daughter, by the way. Oh my God. Yeah. They all have daughters. Yeah. There's,

00:31:55.560 I mean, what I want to know, we should do a study on them. Uh, that's, that's a whole nother.

00:31:59.840 Can you imagine like growing up in that household where you're like, Oh, I'm going through like a chubby

00:32:04.200 teenage period. And they're like, that's okay. You can get it cool sculpted. And you're like, I'm 10.

00:32:09.100 Like, Oh my God. They're children. Yeah. We need to pray for their children. I just think that is

00:32:12.940 so horrifically, um, hypercritical and they're all the worst. Yeah. But like Chloe. Yeah, I know.

00:32:19.340 And also like, okay. Anyone that sells shapewear and tries to combine that with body positivity,

00:32:25.080 it's like, you're so body positive that you want us to suck it in. Yeah. Like put on a girdle. 0.97

00:32:29.620 That's so body positive. Yeah. Like, please. Like, I don't really buy. And then there's the, um,

00:32:34.340 the Kim Kardashian skims campaign that had Tyra Banks in it. And it was criticized for highly

00:32:40.480 editing, photoshopping Tyra Banks, who is, as we all know, a super famous supermodel model. And the

00:32:46.280 woman is 49 now. Yeah. And she's amazingly hot. She's gorgeous. Does she have the body of a 20 year 1.00

00:32:52.080 old? No, she has Tyra Banks at 49 and she's freaking gorgeous. And they had, they photoshopped 0.99

00:32:57.720 her body to look exactly like Kim's body, which is this tiny little waist and these like goat 1.00

00:33:02.160 legs. And it was a body positive. Yeah. Yeah. And you're like, and so one person on Instagram was

00:33:07.640 like, how tell me how heavily editing Tyra Banks to look like Kim Kardashian, it shows body positivity 1.00

00:33:13.280 or inclusivity. It doesn't. And they're the, they're the worst. And they're, this is why you've

00:33:18.800 mentioned this before. This is why we talk about them because it's like, they're out here being like,

00:33:22.940 yeah, ladies, like body positivity and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, you guys are absolutely

00:33:26.820 atrocious and we're going to call you out. And that's our full-time job. That's our full-time 0.86

00:33:30.380 job. And you know, it's important because they are influencing your granddaughters, your daughters,

00:33:35.420 your sons, even who knows they are influencing people, whether we like to admit it or not.

00:33:40.280 Yeah. So we need to keep a close eye on them. And, um, yeah, there's one more item on that

00:33:47.360 EV article. Sorry. Let's round this out. We are going all over the place. We really are. But

00:33:52.300 you know what? She's catching up with us. Um, so number five is write a love letter

00:33:56.660 to your body. And my note is lost me there. I know it has a, it's just, I kind of take

00:34:03.000 that more as like respect what your body does and can do not what it can't do. And I think

00:34:07.700 it's more about just respect. It's just the wording there. It's, it's, it's a little bit

00:34:11.440 like, but yeah, you're right. But I mean, we all hate certain parts about our appearance.

00:34:15.940 We're, we're never, we always feel like we're not skinny enough. We're not pretty enough,

00:34:19.260 you know? And I think just meeting yourself where you're at and then going from there.

00:34:22.800 Yeah. Uh, and by the way, not also being not babying yourself too much, I think is really

00:34:27.420 important. Like, Oh, you feel like crap. So you're not going to go out. Well, that's kind 0.99

00:34:31.560 of ridiculous. Like, you know, like go out anyway, cause you're going to feel fat at home 0.97

00:34:34.900 too. Yeah. You know? Yeah, that's true. I think, yeah, I think that's kind of what I took

00:34:38.380 from that portion, but yeah, it is, it's worded kind of. It's worded poorly, but I agree with

00:34:43.260 you totally. And it kind of goes to like, just love your own brand. Like whatever your brand

00:34:47.960 brand of beauty is like, wear that. Don't worry about like Gucci where, you know, authentic

00:34:53.900 Catherine or whatever your name is, because that's going to look the best on you. And

00:34:57.660 this article closes with a quote from Audrey Hepburn, which we obviously have to read,

00:35:01.660 which is happy girls are the prettiest girls, which I think is absolutely true. Just look

00:35:05.160 at us. Not to mention, we're going to, we're going to finish this segment up, but you know,

00:35:10.740 confidence is key. Just fake it till you make it. Okay. That's a smile goes a long way.

00:35:15.180 Yeah. Like most women, like successful women have just kind of faked it until they got there. 1.00

00:35:20.280 Like just be empowered by that, you know, just go for it. Yeah. Go for it. Be bold,

00:35:25.320 but keep your tops on and keep your top on. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great, cool. I feel like we

00:35:29.320 asked more questions than we answered, but it's a good conversation. We're asking the good questions.

00:35:34.240 We're asking the important questions. You don't have to. And it's an important conversation,

00:35:37.440 which we can touch on again, but we're going to talk about something else now. Yeah. Let's move on.

00:35:42.020 Should we just quickly talk about the Met Gala before we end things here? Yes, yes, yes, yes.

00:35:47.200 So we may have lost some of you the moment we said Met Gala, but we just want to talk about this

00:35:51.900 because the dress code was announced and I think it's going to be beautiful. It's going to be awesome.

00:35:58.120 Obviously, you know, celebrity, celebrities are, it's going to be so good, but the clothes that they

00:36:02.540 wear, come on, we got to, we got to at least appreciate the art. It's like a little Bridgerton vibes.

00:36:06.180 Yeah. It's so good. So the theme is called gilded glamour. So, um, Nate pearls. Yeah. Basically,

00:36:15.060 it's like a period which stretched from the 1870s to the 1890s. Mark Twain is credited with

00:36:20.860 coining the term in 1873. So I just think it's going to be fabulous. We're going to wear pearls

00:36:26.240 and corsets next week. Yes. Speaking of shapewear. Um, yes. I'm going to be up. Please order. No,

00:36:31.180 I'm just kidding. Yes. So everything we just talked about, we're going to throw it out the

00:36:36.100 window next week and we're going to get fainting couches. Oh, that would be fun. Yeah. It's in

00:36:40.060 the budget. Our new set next week is a fainting couch. Um, but yeah, I think it'll be really

00:36:44.460 exciting. It's going to be awesome. And when, uh, I think it's in May, May 2nd, come May 2nd,

00:36:49.600 we will definitely show you guys all of their sick looks. Yeah. There's going to be so much nudity 1.00

00:36:54.100 though. You like, Oh, I'm wearing like a Versace, like underwear with like chiffon, nothing on top. It's

00:36:59.660 like, Oh, well, we'll see what Rihanna does. That'll be interesting. Yes, it will. Um, okay.

00:37:03.260 Anyway, I think that's the show. Yeah. I think that's our show. We're your hosts. I am Kat. I'm

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Rebel News Podcast - April 19, 2022

Miss Understood No. 10 — Be Bold And Keep Your Top On

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