Miss Understood No. 10 — Be Bold And Keep Your Top On
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In this episode, we discuss the over-sexualization of women, body image, and the social pressure to look like Kim Kardashian. We also discuss how to build confidence in your natural womanhood in a world that over sexualizes women.
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Hello and welcome to Misunderstood, a show for all you culturally and politically misunderstood
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ladies and gents. We are your hosts. I'm Kat. And I'm Nat. And today we're going to be talking
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about body image, the over-sexualization of women, and the social pressure of trying to
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look like Kim Kardashian. Yeah! But of course, first and foremost, we're going to start with
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How to build your confidence in your natural womanhood in a world that over-sexualizes
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women. So this is from Evie. You guys know we love Evie. We love Evie.
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So basically, Hollywood has been over-sexualizing women for decades. Goodness gracious. So Jennifer
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Love Hewitt, for example, in the 90s was only asked questions about her body. Britney Spears
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was over-sexualized as a young, young teen. She was 16. Exactly. She became a sex icon, I think.
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And then, of course, recently, even more recently, Millie Bobby Brown, who recently turned 18,
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has also experienced some creeps now that she's a legal adult.
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Yeah. Like you said, in the 90s, there was Natalie Portman, who was super, super young
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when she came into fame. Beautiful people, but when they're children, it's super creepy
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to obsess about their beauty and their looks when they are about to turn 18. They had a
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countdown clock for Natalie Portman and for Millie Bobby Brown, and they've had them for
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tons of celebrities I've seen in my lifetime, which is highly upsetting.
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Yeah, it is. And I think it's interesting, too, because when you look at these celebrities
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and when people are critiquing them, it's always like, oh, they're too much of a slut,
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or they're too modest, or they're too young looking, or they're too old looking. And it's
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like, we really can't win. Like women just can't win when it comes to voyeurs who are
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looking in on us at any age. You know, it's kind of, it's fascinating.
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Yeah, that's a really good point. And one of the things that I really liked about this
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Evie article, I wrote down that to me, this is the thesis of the article. Here's a quote. It
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says, with a society-wide denial of woman-ness on one side and the over-sexualization on the
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other, how is a woman to know how to live in her female body and feel comfortable with her
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femininity? Which I think is a really, we've talked about this before, where they're trying
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to erase women. But then at the same time, you see, like, you go on Instagram, and it's
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all just like, tiny waist and big boobs. And it's like, so on one hand, we are trying to
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erase women, and we're, and young women are getting double mastectomies and changing their
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pronouns. And then on the other hand, we're so, we're like, we're like, bombarded.
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Yeah, we're like, plumped up sex dolls. And it's like, where is the average woman supposed
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She doesn't exist. And I'd argue that that's what the powers that be want. They want us
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to be confused and miserable so that we will buy more products to make us Kim Kardashian
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or to get our breasts removed. Like, they don't want us to be content. And I wonder if
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it, kind of going back to even our conversation a couple weeks ago about the, you know, the
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removing parents from a child's life so that they're a product of the state. Like, we're
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And I think that that's, yeah, that's another quote, I think, from the same article, maybe
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different one that we've touched on. It's exactly that. It's like when someone who's
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discontented and miserable, so much easier to control and manipulate. And from an advertising
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perspective, I mean, we've both worked in marketing. All you're trying to do is manipulate
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people into purchasing or to share or to recognize your brand. So like, it's hard to say, to point
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fingers and say like, well, where's this problem coming from? Is it, is it advertisers? Is
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it society? Like, what does that even, like, who, where is this pressure coming from? And
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we know, like, the whole Kardashian phenomenon, it didn't start with Kim Kardashian. Like,
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she wasn't around during Marilyn Monroe times where it's like, oh, the perfect female figure.
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But it's just a weird thing. Like, is it, is it the elites trying to look down on us and say,
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well, you need to look more like us? Or is it advertising companies saying, oh, you can look
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like Kim if you spend more money? Or is it governments trying to create synthetic wombs?
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Like, I think that's a great question. I, it's funny, because I think a lot of women,
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when we start talking about this topic, we're like, oh, it's men's fault. Men have done this
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to us. And I think maybe sort of to an extent, you know, I think that's where it maybe stemmed
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from. But when you look at Vogue now, for example, Vogue has been setting the standard for beauty for
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ever. And Vogue is run by women. Yeah, like, I'm I know there are men involved in the company. But
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but the editor in chief is a woman and she has been for a long time. Yeah. So and so it's kind
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of interesting. They set the standard of beauty. They set the expectation. So like, why are why are
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we blaming men for the by the way, when it comes to the over sexualization of children, I think that
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a lot of that is coming from men. I mean, specifically, yeah, Brown and stuff. Yeah, dude,
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that's it's creepy dudes, you know, who are like, it's not old ladies here in the countdown
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clock. Exactly. And I'm sure there are some creepy ladies. Oh, 100%. We're not putting
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anyone in a box here. You can be creepy ladies. Yeah. But I kind of wonder, is this did we do
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this to ourselves? I don't know. Yeah, it's sort of there's actually a family guy skit about
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like cutaway about this where something about like Lois, I think she has like a porn tape come
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out. And and her best friend, her next door neighbor, like barges down the door and she's
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like, slut. And it's like, almost like we kind of not we, but like there is sort of this. Yeah,
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I want to see Nat fail. There is this sort of underlying thing. I'm sure you felt it. I think
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it's called the single white female thing where it's like you kind of want your friend to fail.
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Like, I don't have friends that I want to fail. I just don't. I'm not friends with anyone who I would
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be like, oh, I'm jealous of her. I want to see her fail. Like, I would just be like, oh,
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that's a weird, creepy thought in my mind. Like, I'm not going to be friends with this
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person if I feel this weird competition. But there are people I've had friends in my life
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where I'm like, you want to see me fail. They enjoy it. Yes, they do. And it's sort of like
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that is a micro example of this macro phenomenon, which is like, oh, like I kind of see it. We've
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talked about this before where it's like, oh, like micro bangs are in style. You guys should
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totally all get your hair cut like super, super short. And also, you know, have sex with whoever
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you want. Ladies, like do whatever feels good. It's like, well, so that they can get venereal
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diseases and you don't like there's to me, there's almost like I'm not saying it's women
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and I'm not saying it's men, but there is a weird phenomenon with women where some have
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friends that they don't actually want to see succeed. And like there's a great point. It
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can be extrapolated to a larger society. I think that's probably it because I mean, and
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it's weird going back to what we were kind of already talking about. Like we look at Lizzo,
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for example, and everyone's like, yeah, we talked about like Janet Jackson and she's
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like, yeah, Lizzo, you look great. And it's like, Janet, you have 800 packs.
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Exactly. She's like jacked. But then also we're looking at, you know, we have an article
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that we'll get to about Camilla Cabello. And it's like they were the paparazzi is like,
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you know, criticizing her for having a normal body. Like she's not heavy. She's not anorexic.
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She just is a normal, beautiful young woman. And it's like, so on one hand, we're praising
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Lizzo for being clinically obese. But if you're a normal sized person, we, there's something wrong
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with you. Like what the hell is going on there? Yeah. And there's also the whole like cellulite
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thing where there's, you know, we can talk about the reasons why women have cellulite and men don't
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on average. I think it's like 10% of men have cellulite. 90% of women do. But it's one of the
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quotes in the article. I don't have it in front of me, but it's basically like, what do you,
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when you see, uh, one of those trashy magazines at the grocery, what are they? Yeah. Like a tabloid
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magazine. When you see a tabloid magazine and you see like, oh, like Hillary Duff's cottage cheese
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legs. How is that supposed to make an average woman feel where like these people are like some
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of the beauty, most beautiful, most fit, most rich people on the planet. And they have a couple of
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dimples on their thighs and we're like, oh, they're so gross. And I'm like, like, I'm not going to bend
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over in the daytime. But I think they're not actually specifically targeting these celebrities
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to embarrass them. They want us to compare ourselves to them. That's because these people
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will be fine. They can get rid of their cellulite if they really wanted to. I mean, there are a lot
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of medical procedures I'm sure that they could undergo. I think it's about us. It's about targeting
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us normal people. To make us buy the cellulite cream that Kim Kardashian sells that does not work.
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You guys, you can't, I read an article about cellulite creams. It's like, you can't just put a cream
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on your legs. I mean, we've all tried them, but really there's, there's only like laser that can
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really get rid of the cellulite. Very expensive. And few people are the ones who are going to benefit
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from that. So it's much easier to say, oh, if you buy this product or you go on this tiny tea diet,
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you'll totally get rid of your cellulite. And it's totally disgusting to make those false promises
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to people and also create the problem in their head where you're like, oh, I didn't even think about
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my cellulite. Okay. Now I'm going to go home, look in the mirror, get upset, go online, buy cellulite
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cream, doesn't work. Get upset. Think I'm fat because it didn't work on me or something like
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that. It's this horrible cycle. And they want you, they want you like that. They want you,
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they want us stuck in this. Yeah. Because we're consumers that way. Yeah, I agree. And I think,
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you know, as an actionable item, I think what we really need to start doing is getting a better
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understanding of our actual bodies and finding out what works, you know, to make us more productive
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and content in how we look, I guess, you know, because like you were saying, they want us
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miserable. They want us as consumers. But how do we stop this? Like, why, like, how do we get to a
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point as women where we're just content with who we are and where we're at with our physical
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appearances? Because we're never going to look like Kim K if we don't have the money to, you know?
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I don't even want to look like Kim K. Well, exactly.
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Yeah. Like, right. We probably don't, but, but so many people do. And you can see it when you go on
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Instagram and you're like, oh, wow, is that Kim Kardashian? No, it's just some...
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Everyone else. Yeah. This is any other person. Yeah. And, and not only like, how do we beat this
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consumerism thing, but like, as a woman, like, I don't want to feel like a product of this like
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weird sexual culture that we live in. Yeah. And so like, maybe my desire to look like, so let's
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pretend I want to look like Kim Kardashian, like that desire is not even a real one. It's been like
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foisted onto me and I'm going to buy all these products to look like that when I don't really
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even want to. And I'm going to be objectified. And then maybe I get so sick of that, that I'm just
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like, you know what? I'm a boy. Right. And then also let's not, not to mention that the trends
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change. We were talking about that just now with the sunglasses. Yeah. So some, one day Kim K is
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cool. The next day it's being like heroin chic or whatever. Yeah. So like you really can't win.
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Yeah. You get butt implants to look like her. And then next month it's like, Ooh, flat bums are all
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the rage. And it's like, ah, and I think that's the point here. Like we can't win. So we shouldn't try.
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Don't even play. Yeah. Let's just stop playing their game. And of course I believe in taking
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care of your physical health. I think it's okay to dress up. I actually think that it is good for
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your mental health to put effort into your appearance. I think when you, like you feel
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good when you look good, you know, I always look good. Yeah, exactly. And that's why she always feels
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great. Um, let's go through the, the, the tips on the, um, the article. Cause they give you,
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there's some, you know, there's some valuable ones, some ones that I'm like, I roll. Um,
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yes. Can we pull up the article? Yeah, let's put up, there we go. She got it. Um, so number one
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that they suggest is to learn about your cycle, which I think is extremely useful. Yes. Not
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something that they even teach you in health class in school. They just teach you about periods and
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don't have sex. And then it's like, okay, but why am I feeling this way during this month or this
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week of the month? And why am I feeling this way? And don't eat sugar that week. Cause you'll
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have terrible cramps. And why are you feeling bloated and angry? Like, why are you feeling
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hungry? Like these are things that can help us understand ourselves. I agree. And I think part
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of the reason they don't teach us is because they want us to buy the de-bloating tea to,
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they're like, Oh, not elementary school. Like why don't they teach us? Maybe it's just because
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a lack of knowledge back in the day when we were in school, like last year. But yeah, I mean,
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more so as teenagers when we're like more susceptible to being influenced, I guess you're right in,
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in elementary school, it's like, well, they should teach us about our cycles in elementary school.
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Yeah. I think so too. And I think a lot of the onus could also be placed
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on mothers to teach their kids about these things because that's the best person to learn
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from. That's very true. Comfortable setting. I think a lot of women don't even know. I think
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maybe this is like new stuff. Yeah. Cause I have an app that like tracks my cycle and it'll tell me
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like, Oh, you're in this phase, like avoid alcohol because whatever, or you might be feeling extra
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sleepy or whatever it is. And sometimes I'm like, no, that's not right. Cause it's not really attached
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to my body, but sometimes I'm like, yes. Oh my God. Yes. Yeah. So it's interesting. And also we've
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talked about natural forms of birth control as well. Knowing what cycle, like what part of your
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cycle you're on is also a really great form of birth control because you really can't get pregnant
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sometimes. You just can't. So that's your chance ladies. Yeah. No, it's, it's true. So I think that's
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a great place to start learning about your hormones and feeding your body accordingly.
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Yes. Exactly. In those situations. Feeling good is going to make you look good. Exactly. Instead of just
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being like, what can I plaster on myself on the outside? Like maybe something internal will actually
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give you that glow that you're trying to find in a bottle. Um, number two, explore the feminine
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virtues and find ways to incorporate them into your life. Um, yeah. So, I mean, obviously they're
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like a, there are qualities apart from our physical differences that do set us apart from men. And I
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think that those aren't being embraced as much in modern society. And I think maybe that's why that's
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maybe a part of why we're discontent in some ways, because we're not embracing our inherent nature.
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And we talked about this already with the gender wage gap, even it's like some things just our
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nature. And for some reason we are fighting that, like fighting those urges. Yes, exactly. Like,
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well, one of the things on the list is like you're, you're, uh, it's like poise and beauty,
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whatever, but like nurturing, your nurturing attitude, obviously some men are extremely nurturing
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and that's always going to be a thing. Like manis, male nurses, like these are, these are men who
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love to nurture and that's okay. They fall outside of the curve where mostly women are the ones who
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are nurturing. And I feel like our society doesn't encourage nurturing. No, they want us all to be
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these like boss business, you know, who are like the power hungry. Yeah, exactly. Like stilettoing
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on people's throats the way to the top. Never getting married, you know, and, and having babies
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and wanting to have babies is just egregious to these women, um, and people. Um, but that's a part
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of who we are and we, it's okay if you don't want to do. It's almost like it's propagated the species
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up until now. Sort of like a trend there. And it's okay if you don't fall into that, you know,
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that's fine. Like no one's a monolith, but of course most, most people will fall or will,
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you know, fight, be comfortable in that sort of situation, acting on those sorts of urges,
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you know? Yeah. And it doesn't make you lame. No, no. There's nothing cooler than being a good mom.
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I agree. You know, like cool moms. We need more of those. Yeah. Cool mom. Cool mom. You know?
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Yeah. But not too cool. No, not too cool for school. Yeah. Don't give your kid like,
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you know, ecstasy or something. Yeah. Don't do that. People will move on from that. That's too
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cool. Yeah. That's our next one. Um, discover who you are and what makes you feel joy. Yeah. So
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this one, you know, I don't, I don't really belong of the, to the philosophy of belief. That's like,
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whatever brings you joy is how you should live your life. Like, yeah, as Christians, we kind of are
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like, that's joy and happiness are not the most. End all. Yeah, exactly. It's more, it's bigger than that.
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I think like be content with where you're at. I think contentment leads to joy. And I think if
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you're just content with what you have and the blessings you have, that will, that will set you
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apart from other people. And I think that will just spring you forward in your life. And I think
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that's a really good way to combat this like consumerist bombardment that we're getting all
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the time. Cause like, I feel it all the time. Anytime I go on Instagram, we talk about this all the time.
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I'm like, I just bought a purse. Yeah. Why? Why did I buy that? We didn't need it.
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We did not need that. But it's like this weird thing that, and I'm, I'm fighting it every third
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time I close the app. Look, that's progress, but sometimes it'll get me, but it's like this feeling
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where it's like, I'm not content with what I have. And this, this purse, which is so trendy now will
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definitely bring me into this new echelon. Like what, Catherine, what are you thinking? That's so
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silly. That's so silly. Right. And it's like temporary satisfaction. So temporary. Right. And I think
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that's the same thing as we've talked about before on the show with like, um, the sex positivity
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movement and like hookups, it's like, okay, it feels good now, but what, what are you going to do when
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it no longer feels good? You're just going to keep having sex. You're just going to keep buying
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purses. Like we need to, as you already said, we just need to be at peace with where we're at.
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And I think, I think that'll really help us out. Yeah. And for me, a lot of that peace and
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contentment has come because I've started going to church in the past couple of months and I've like
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found God and that has made me feel super content, but that's not for everyone or they're not there
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yet or whatever. So you can definitely find it in other places, family, um, your work,
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your kids, obviously that's family pets, hobbies, yoga. Yeah. The church is a great one though. If
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you want to try it. Yeah. I mean, I think you, you are created by God, so you will find your true
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wholeness in that, frankly, like, of course you can look to other things. I agree, but I think those are
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also kind of temporary. And I think ultimately like, like learning about where you came from
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and who your creator is, like the God of the universe who like loves you. I think going from
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there is really where most people will find peace, like wholeheartedly, you know? Um, but, uh, yeah,
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I think to your point, like faith is just, I mean, it's the word. Yeah. It's faith. It's literally
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like, I have faith that everything is going to work out or is how it's supposed to be. So that's like,
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like kind of a synonym for content almost. I think so too. Yeah. And I mean, when you have
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faith, there's no fear of the unknown. There's no, you don't need to compare yourself because
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you know, you have faith that it's you're good. We're good. You guys, you know, and that's probably
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why this modern culture we live in is so down on faith and religion because I, I hear it all the
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time where it's like, I believe in God sort of, it's not religious. It's spiritual. I hear that. I used
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to say that about myself because I did believe in God, but I was like, it's spiritual because
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they didn't want to say it was religion because for some reason that has such a negative connotation
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now, but it makes sense why they would throw that negative connotation on it. Because obviously
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there are issues with organized religions. Like you can point to that. No, of course not.
00:19:23.240
But it makes sense why the big industry, the advertising industry and all these companies
00:19:28.000
would want you to be godless because then instead of looking to God for answers, you look
00:19:32.880
to your cream, like the government, the government, like, Oh, if I am feeling discontent, I will
00:19:38.100
buy this new person, have these cheek fillers, and then I will be content and beautiful and
00:19:42.740
all the pieces of my life fall together. It's like, well, that's, that's actually religion.
00:19:45.820
That's actually faith that you're looking for, but why would they want you to know that?
00:19:49.180
It's like a secret almost. It's like, it's actually faith. Like, yeah, it's so interesting
00:19:53.340
just how secularism has really impacted our self-esteem as women and as consumers.
00:19:58.180
And like sex, like sex, like they've made it so that, um, yeah, like, like having sex and
00:20:06.580
being sexy is like godly. And instead of trying to be good, you can say good Christian or you
00:20:12.880
can just say good people. But like, if we're trying to be good people, you know, I kind
00:20:18.080
of lost my train of thought, but it's like, they put sex on this weird pedestal and it's
00:20:21.840
like, that's what we should always be trying to look sexy. When we know that, especially
00:20:26.880
as women, our sexiness window is fleeting. It's small and it's fleeting.
00:20:32.120
Definitely. And what about the fact too, that your sexiness is more than just how you look.
00:20:36.680
Like, I think there's so much to say about like a woman's personality, a sexy personality,
00:20:41.480
whatever that means to a man is what they really find attractive about you. You know, because
00:20:45.540
even when we consider like sex on a more secular level, a man doesn't care if you look like
00:20:51.600
Kim Kardashian. He doesn't care if you look like Kate Moss. I just wants to get laid.
00:20:55.000
He just wants to get laid, frankly. And I think a part of that attraction is from your personality
00:21:00.200
and your character. Well, I think that's like the difference between getting laid and having
00:21:04.560
a long-term partner. Yeah. And young girls, and I'm glad I didn't fall into this when I was young
00:21:10.900
because I had so much good training, but young girls will give their bodies away to any man who
00:21:15.980
looks in their direction because they need that gratification because they don't feel beautiful
00:21:20.380
and they don't feel powerful without knowing that a man wants to have sex with them.
00:21:25.380
Yeah. No, I, I, I think that's one of the biggest pandemics of women are dealing with right now.
00:21:30.300
And I think going back to our topic of over sexual, over sexualization, goodness gracious,
00:21:35.100
let's pick it. It's a hard word. It's a hard word. Um, maybe the problem is so many young people,
00:21:40.980
especially with social media are being over sexualized and that's why they're seeking out,
00:21:45.340
you know, men and sex and, um, they're exploiting themselves, frankly, to find meaning because they
00:21:51.460
were kind of exposed to that way too young. And I, you know, like for example, Millie Bobby Brown,
00:22:01.220
She's, I mean, who knows how that's going to affect her in the long run as she grows up. I mean,
00:22:05.700
and we had that other article about Cole Sprouse, um, talking about his Disney colleagues who
00:22:10.120
were over-sexualized at a young age. That's something he never had to deal with as a young man.
00:22:13.780
He saw it like destroy women that he, girls that he knew. And he was like, there's no way to like
00:22:18.840
recover from that. And it's like, the language is so dark. It's like scary. Yeah. Also, uh, in this
00:22:24.720
article, this E article, um, hold on, let me find it. Yeah. It, it was joking. Here it is. Um,
00:22:31.920
this quote Cole who began acting when he was six months old added that people always want to
00:22:37.340
criticize child stars for going nuts, but they don't want to address the trauma that comes with fame.
00:22:40.800
What? Six months old. How can you say that you started at, like, this is another problem. Yes.
00:22:47.140
What the heck are we saying? Like, if you want to put your newborn baby in a movie,
00:22:51.360
you're selling, like you're selling your baby. You're exploiting your child. Like I rewrote the
00:22:55.120
article title or the quote to Cole, who was six months old when his parents sold him to the
00:22:59.480
entertainment industry. Yeah. Like, let's just clarify that. Like Cole was not an actor at six
00:23:03.860
months old. So this poor kid has been in the entertainment industry his entire life. And at least it sounds
00:23:09.700
like he's pretty woke to what's going on. Yeah. Which is, thank God. Which is big for a Disney
00:23:14.480
star. Yeah. But I mean, and you know, like, as he mentions in the article, so we have the Miley
00:23:19.080
Cyrus's, the Demi Lovato's, these crazy girls who kind of spiral, you know? And it's like,
00:23:24.000
it's like, well, what did we do? Exactly. There has to be a reason why. And I think, I think it
00:23:28.420
partially stems from being over-sexualized as a young child. Yeah. Um, you never, and like,
00:23:33.460
you always have to raise the bar. Yeah. It's like, oh, how, how, like, and we've seen it
00:23:37.040
with Kim Kardashian. Like she, her, her outfits need to get smaller and smaller and more tight
00:23:41.820
and her waist needs to, yeah, it's, everything's more extreme as you see, like, it's just like
00:23:46.940
when you say something crazy on Twitter and it gets traction, you're like, oh, well, saying
00:23:49.600
crazy stuff on Twitter gets me attention. So that's why people start, and then you see
00:23:52.920
that thing, you're like, how did we get here? It's like, well, because people love a freak
00:23:56.000
show. Yeah. No, it's true. And then I, pushing these poor girls into this, oh, it's just
00:24:01.060
like what happened to Britney Spears. Yeah. Like those, you know, that story of her crying
00:24:04.820
in the, in like a, like a fast food store and like the paparazzi were, um, filming her
00:24:12.280
and she had to get away and she asked them, please, can I stay in here? And like, don't
00:24:15.020
let them in. And she was sitting in there, there's pictures of her crying and the paparazzi
00:24:18.400
are outside, just take snapping, snapping, snapping. It's like, you broke her. Yeah. You
00:24:22.340
broke her. And then you're like, oh, look, what a freak she is crying in a Burger King.
00:24:25.800
Like, it's so sad. That poor girl was sexualized from 16 years old. And you really
00:24:31.040
only see this with women in Hollywood, to be honest. Other than Michael Jackson, who
00:24:35.560
else can you say has gone off the deep end as much as like most women? Yeah, fair enough.
00:24:41.400
But that's because of Michael Jackson. They're the minority though. Yeah, they are. So, and
00:24:46.860
so if this is happening to women in Hollywood, Lord knows with social media, it's happening
00:24:50.660
to our young women, tweens and teens, you know, in North America. So this is something
00:24:56.180
to be watchful of, I think, because I do think it will have a detrimental impact on young
00:25:00.460
women as they grow up. I mean, there are studies about this, about how being over-sexualized
00:25:05.800
affects, you know, how you deal with intimacy when you grow up and relationships, even friendships,
00:25:11.320
your self-esteem, you know, I, it all just trickles down. And I think we need to start
00:25:15.580
paying attention yesterday. Yeah. And, and, you know, it's a larger problem, but it's getting
00:25:21.400
worse. Yeah. It's getting worse. And like women's mental health is deteriorating and their
00:25:26.600
body satisfaction is going down where it used to be bad. It was really bad. Like
00:25:30.880
in the nineties with the heroin chic look, it was really, really bad. But there's this
00:25:35.640
article here, um, from Evie again, Kim K's slim, thick body causes more body dissatisfaction
00:25:41.600
than 90 supermodel stick figures, according to a new study. So they said they surveyed 402
00:25:46.900
women between the ages of 18 and 25 and participants who compared themselves to the slim, thick influencers
00:25:52.380
experienced highly experienced significantly more weight and appearance dissatisfaction
00:25:56.700
than women who compared themselves to the thin ideal imagery. So I was trying to understand
00:26:01.320
why. I think it's cause it's impossible to achieve this look without having money to do
00:26:07.640
it. Yeah. Cause, cause exactly. So you, you can starve yourself and you can be thin. Please
00:26:13.240
don't, by the way. Absolutely do not. Um, that's our job. Yeah. Um, you can starve yourself
00:26:19.360
to look super, super skinny, but you can't make your butt explode at the same time. And
00:26:24.760
I've, I remember even when I was in high school, girls being like, I want a super tiny waist
00:26:28.780
and like a big butt. And it's like, it's only gotten so much worse since then because now
00:26:33.380
girls are like, you can, you can achieve those in the gym if you're already built like that.
00:26:38.640
That's the thing. You can't fight biology. No, you cannot. And not everyone's body looks
00:26:42.140
like that. And that's okay. Like some women in my family have super straight hips, not curvy
00:26:47.880
women, like hourglass, a giant, but skinny waist thing. Like that's again, like you mentioned,
00:26:52.160
it's a phase, it's a fad. It's not always going to be the style and you're still beautiful
00:26:57.040
if you don't have exactly those proportions. A thousand percent. Yeah. I think it really just
00:27:02.060
comes down to the fact that we need to start embracing our natural beauty and just owning
00:27:06.900
who God made us to be. It's you don't have to be beautiful. Like Kim, you're beautiful
00:27:10.900
like you. Exactly. And that doesn't mean we can't buy makeup and wear cute clothes and work
00:27:15.460
out and take care of ourselves and care about our physical appearances. I actually think
00:27:18.820
that will make you a more content person if you put effort in, you know, but like, let's
00:27:22.860
just like chill out here people. Yeah. But that's, I think that's what we're trying to nail down
00:27:26.820
here, which is, you know, probably not going to get nailed down, but it's like, where do
00:27:31.780
you go too far? Like, where's that perfect point? It's different for everybody, obviously,
00:27:36.160
but we're trying to find the balance between being like, okay, I'm genderless. I'm a genderless
00:27:41.960
blob who's never going to have children and, and down with a patriarchy. Okay. On one side.
00:27:45.880
And then on the other side, you're like, I'm a bimbo who just wants to like have a man
00:27:50.200
buy me a mew mew skirt. Like I do want that, but yes, with intelligence. Exactly. Like there
00:27:57.020
are, there's a healthy middle ground and that's not always going to be the same for everybody,
00:28:00.140
but that's, I think what we're trying to talk about now. And like, let's, we're going
00:28:03.920
to get close and we're going to figure it out. I think so. It's a big problem though.
00:28:07.940
It is a huge problem. Um, yeah, I don't, I, I think part of it just comes down to what
00:28:13.120
we already said. Uh, just starting with where you're at and being content with where you're
00:28:16.820
at. Oh, they had some more, um, no, they had some more like, uh, blah, blah, blah.
00:28:22.360
Action items. Yes. Action items on the EV article. I'm so disorganized once again.
00:28:25.820
Yeah. So one of them tablet, one of them was wellness. So, oh yeah, it's like choose wellness.
00:28:30.100
That's right for you. So that's a great, so take care of your, you know, your mind, body,
00:28:34.640
soul and spirit. And also like what we're talking about birth control, um, maybe birth
00:28:40.000
control isn't right for you and maybe following your natural cycle and eating more natural foods
00:28:45.160
so that you don't have, cause like I've experienced really, really bad period cramps. And then when I
00:28:48.760
cleaned up my diet, a lot of that went away. Absolutely. I think one of the great places
00:28:53.880
to start though, is just not rooting your identity and your appearance too. You know, I think like
00:28:58.900
because of social media, it's really hard not to fixate on your looks. And I think,
00:29:04.380
you know, it's so hard. Uh, it's even hard doing our job being on camera. You're like,
00:29:09.240
Oh gosh. Yeah. We're like, Oh my God. Yeah. You know? And I mean, you can see how it even
00:29:14.780
affects these Hollywood actors. I mean, there was another article about, uh, one of the Irwin
00:29:19.580
sisters. That's not what they're called. Baldwin. Baldwin. Yes. Oh my gosh. Alec Baldwin's 26 year
00:29:26.640
old daughter just had some, it's like a mini facelift. Yeah. And 26 years old. She got it
00:29:31.520
because she has skin here and she doesn't want, she wanted it to be more like, and I'm like,
00:29:36.620
you're, you don't, you don't need to worry about that. My, my theory, sorry. Yeah, go, go. My
00:29:41.020
theory is that she just doesn't want to look like Alec Baldwin. Okay. Well, I understand that. Okay.
00:29:45.020
He has a lot of stuff going on right now. You're like cutting ties. I get that. Yeah. I understand.
00:29:49.520
Just pull the whole face back. Like just get a new face that, no. Yeah. But 26 is too young for a
00:29:53.720
facelift. Right. Which means, I'm going to say it. And even though it's considered non-invasive,
00:29:57.220
you're still going, like you're still doing a procedure that you're way too young to be getting.
00:30:01.120
And your face isn't even done yet. Yeah. You're not even done growing. You're still like a growing
00:30:04.600
baby. And like the thing, remember we did that, um, we talked about Linda Evangelista and her cool
00:30:10.500
sculpting nightmare. Like who knows what, like what's her name? Baldwin. The long-term effects.
00:30:15.940
The long-term effects. Like your face is still growing and changing and you're, and you're like freezing it.
00:30:19.680
Like what if things are still moving and they're frozen in like an unnatural position and you have
00:30:23.700
like a cliff here. It's like, then you'll just have another surgery. And that's not good. No,
00:30:29.300
you're going to have another surgery to fix that. And then you're going to be like,
00:30:32.900
oh, I need this cream. Oh, I'm going to start my own cream company that tells you,
00:30:36.480
oh, this cream gets rid of your double chin. It's like, no, it doesn't. You had
00:30:38.820
cool sculpting on your chin. Like it's just such a, well, it's so toxic. It's a vicious cycle. And I
00:30:44.840
think it's scary that when these famous people who have access to all these beauty products and all
00:30:49.580
these treatments are also still undergoing procedures, it's like, well, then there's no
00:30:53.760
hope for the rest of us. You know, these people are already, as you said earlier, the hottest
00:30:58.580
people in the world and they feel ugly, you know, there's this article from daily mail. Oh yes.
00:31:04.100
Um, Khloe Kardashian, the self-confessed filter fanatic claims her brand promotes body positivity
00:31:08.580
in new campaign a year after she tried to kill candid bikini photos that leaked onto internet.
00:31:13.440
Yeah. So that's a mouthful. But basically, um, she has been quoted as saying good American has
00:31:20.060
always been more than just a fashion brand. It's a platform for inclusivity and body positivity. And
00:31:24.540
I'm like, says the girl who spent more money on plastic surgery than Elon Musk has on rockets.
00:31:28.780
Oh my gosh. A thousand. Like your whole body is silicone. She is a whole new person. If you
00:31:33.020
watch the beginning of the, uh, keeping up all of them, but her, I know you watch the beginning and
00:31:38.680
then you see her now totally different. I think it's a robot. Yeah. It could be a robot. And so
00:31:43.740
it's like, okay, your body positive. That is such BS. Yeah. You're a liar. And you're setting a bad
00:31:51.000
example for your daughter, by the way. Oh my God. Yeah. They all have daughters. Yeah. There's,
00:31:55.560
I mean, what I want to know, we should do a study on them. Uh, that's, that's a whole nother.
00:31:59.840
Can you imagine like growing up in that household where you're like, Oh, I'm going through like a chubby
00:32:04.200
teenage period. And they're like, that's okay. You can get it cool sculpted. And you're like, I'm 10.
00:32:09.100
Like, Oh my God. They're children. Yeah. We need to pray for their children. I just think that is
00:32:12.940
so horrifically, um, hypercritical and they're all the worst. Yeah. But like Chloe. Yeah, I know.
00:32:19.340
And also like, okay. Anyone that sells shapewear and tries to combine that with body positivity,
00:32:25.080
it's like, you're so body positive that you want us to suck it in. Yeah. Like put on a girdle.
00:32:29.620
That's so body positive. Yeah. Like, please. Like, I don't really buy. And then there's the, um,
00:32:34.340
the Kim Kardashian skims campaign that had Tyra Banks in it. And it was criticized for highly
00:32:40.480
editing, photoshopping Tyra Banks, who is, as we all know, a super famous supermodel model. And the
00:32:46.280
woman is 49 now. Yeah. And she's amazingly hot. She's gorgeous. Does she have the body of a 20 year
00:32:52.080
old? No, she has Tyra Banks at 49 and she's freaking gorgeous. And they had, they photoshopped
00:32:57.720
her body to look exactly like Kim's body, which is this tiny little waist and these like goat
00:33:02.160
legs. And it was a body positive. Yeah. Yeah. And you're like, and so one person on Instagram was
00:33:07.640
like, how tell me how heavily editing Tyra Banks to look like Kim Kardashian, it shows body positivity
00:33:13.280
or inclusivity. It doesn't. And they're the, they're the worst. And they're, this is why you've
00:33:18.800
mentioned this before. This is why we talk about them because it's like, they're out here being like,
00:33:22.940
yeah, ladies, like body positivity and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, you guys are absolutely
00:33:26.820
atrocious and we're going to call you out. And that's our full-time job. That's our full-time
00:33:30.380
job. And you know, it's important because they are influencing your granddaughters, your daughters,
00:33:35.420
your sons, even who knows they are influencing people, whether we like to admit it or not.
00:33:40.280
Yeah. So we need to keep a close eye on them. And, um, yeah, there's one more item on that
00:33:47.360
EV article. Sorry. Let's round this out. We are going all over the place. We really are. But
00:33:52.300
you know what? She's catching up with us. Um, so number five is write a love letter
00:33:56.660
to your body. And my note is lost me there. I know it has a, it's just, I kind of take
00:34:03.000
that more as like respect what your body does and can do not what it can't do. And I think
00:34:07.700
it's more about just respect. It's just the wording there. It's, it's, it's a little bit
00:34:11.440
like, but yeah, you're right. But I mean, we all hate certain parts about our appearance.
00:34:15.940
We're, we're never, we always feel like we're not skinny enough. We're not pretty enough,
00:34:19.260
you know? And I think just meeting yourself where you're at and then going from there.
00:34:22.800
Yeah. Uh, and by the way, not also being not babying yourself too much, I think is really
00:34:27.420
important. Like, Oh, you feel like crap. So you're not going to go out. Well, that's kind
00:34:31.560
of ridiculous. Like, you know, like go out anyway, cause you're going to feel fat at home
00:34:34.900
too. Yeah. You know? Yeah, that's true. I think, yeah, I think that's kind of what I took
00:34:38.380
from that portion, but yeah, it is, it's worded kind of. It's worded poorly, but I agree with
00:34:43.260
you totally. And it kind of goes to like, just love your own brand. Like whatever your brand
00:34:47.960
brand of beauty is like, wear that. Don't worry about like Gucci where, you know, authentic
00:34:53.900
Catherine or whatever your name is, because that's going to look the best on you. And
00:34:57.660
this article closes with a quote from Audrey Hepburn, which we obviously have to read,
00:35:01.660
which is happy girls are the prettiest girls, which I think is absolutely true. Just look
00:35:05.160
at us. Not to mention, we're going to, we're going to finish this segment up, but you know,
00:35:10.740
confidence is key. Just fake it till you make it. Okay. That's a smile goes a long way.
00:35:15.180
Yeah. Like most women, like successful women have just kind of faked it until they got there.
00:35:20.280
Like just be empowered by that, you know, just go for it. Yeah. Go for it. Be bold,
00:35:25.320
but keep your tops on and keep your top on. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great, cool. I feel like we
00:35:29.320
asked more questions than we answered, but it's a good conversation. We're asking the good questions.
00:35:34.240
We're asking the important questions. You don't have to. And it's an important conversation,
00:35:37.440
which we can touch on again, but we're going to talk about something else now. Yeah. Let's move on.
00:35:42.020
Should we just quickly talk about the Met Gala before we end things here? Yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:35:47.200
So we may have lost some of you the moment we said Met Gala, but we just want to talk about this
00:35:51.900
because the dress code was announced and I think it's going to be beautiful. It's going to be awesome.
00:35:58.120
Obviously, you know, celebrity, celebrities are, it's going to be so good, but the clothes that they
00:36:02.540
wear, come on, we got to, we got to at least appreciate the art. It's like a little Bridgerton vibes.
00:36:06.180
Yeah. It's so good. So the theme is called gilded glamour. So, um, Nate pearls. Yeah. Basically,
00:36:15.060
it's like a period which stretched from the 1870s to the 1890s. Mark Twain is credited with
00:36:20.860
coining the term in 1873. So I just think it's going to be fabulous. We're going to wear pearls
00:36:26.240
and corsets next week. Yes. Speaking of shapewear. Um, yes. I'm going to be up. Please order. No,
00:36:31.180
I'm just kidding. Yes. So everything we just talked about, we're going to throw it out the
00:36:36.100
window next week and we're going to get fainting couches. Oh, that would be fun. Yeah. It's in
00:36:40.060
the budget. Our new set next week is a fainting couch. Um, but yeah, I think it'll be really
00:36:44.460
exciting. It's going to be awesome. And when, uh, I think it's in May, May 2nd, come May 2nd,
00:36:49.600
we will definitely show you guys all of their sick looks. Yeah. There's going to be so much nudity
00:36:54.100
though. You like, Oh, I'm wearing like a Versace, like underwear with like chiffon, nothing on top. It's
00:36:59.660
like, Oh, well, we'll see what Rihanna does. That'll be interesting. Yes, it will. Um, okay.
00:37:03.260
Anyway, I think that's the show. Yeah. I think that's our show. We're your hosts. I am Kat. I'm
00:37:08.920
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