Miss Understood No. 13 — Their Body, Your Choice
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Summary
In this episode of Misunderstood: The Politically and culturally misunderstood lady or gent, Nat and Kat discuss the controversial Kim Kardashian s appearance at the 2020 Met Gala, the controversy surrounding her weight loss, and the recent leak of Roe v. Wade.
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Hello, and welcome to Misunderstood, the show for the politically and culturally misunderstood
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lady or gent. Or birthing person. Or birthing person. We are your hosts.
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I'm Nat. And I'm Kat. And today we're going to be talking about the Met Gala, the Gilded Glamour
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in all of its splendor. And of course, the more serious topic of the recent leak of the Roe v. Wade
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possible overturning. So before we get into it, let's not. And we'll just get into it.
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Let's not. Okay. Kim Kardashian's Met Gala 2022 comments on weight loss are harmful and
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unnecessary. So. According to Teen Vogue. According to Teen Vogue. And actually a few others.
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But okay, so let's just backpedal a little. Last episode, I believe it was, we talked about
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the theme. And so just in case y'all don't know, Gilded Glamour, which is a continuation
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into American fashion. And it was coined, it was coined Gilded Glamour with the promise
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of celebrities wearing tight corsets, bodices, and grandiose headwear. And it's a historical
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period from the 1870s to the early 1900s. You hear that, Kim? Yeah, Kim. Kim. So I
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didn't know 1962 Happy Birthday Mr. President was a part of the theme. So for those who don't
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know, the reality star wore the actual dress that Marilyn Monroe wore in Happy Birthday
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Mr. President. Yes. And people are mad. Yeah, people are mad for like all the wrong reasons,
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I think. I think so too. I think they should be mad because it's literally not the theme at
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all. In no way was it the theme. And I thought it was a pretty disappointing look. But that's
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not why people are mad. So there's lots of, there's basically two reasons that people are
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mad. The first is that it is apparently the dress is a historical piece of Americana. And
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people are mad that she wore it because they don't think that anyone should get to wear
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it because it should be in a museum or it should just be like, it is a fragile piece
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of garment. History. Yes. And apparently every time you wear it, it rips a little bit and
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there's all these like micro threads and there's hand sewn beads and people are upset about that.
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Yeah. And the other criticism. Yes. So they're very upset that she lost 16 pounds to fit in
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it, sort of, but she didn't actually fit in it. Yeah, she didn't even fit in it. She couldn't
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actually zip it up in the back, which is why you see her wearing that beautiful shawl, which
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she said was fine because it was very Marilyn Monroe-esque. How lovely of her. How kind of her.
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Yes. It's funny because her butt implants couldn't fit in the dress made for a human woman.
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Maybe just use your real butt next time, Kim. Yeah. Um, so people are mad because she lost
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16 pounds in three weeks actually, which is pretty, it's a lot, that's a large extreme
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amount of pounds. Yeah. Okay. Like we've been trying for months and not even, I've gained.
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Yeah. So like, you know, it is, it is hard. I mean, it's hard because I only weigh 16 pounds
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total. Yes. So for me to lose 16 pounds, I would literally just be ahead. She'd be like,
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you know, when you go to a store with the automatic doors, the door just wouldn't open.
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It wouldn't open. It wouldn't recognize you. It barely does now.
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Ah, the dream. That's Kim's dream too. So, um, yeah. So basically people are just mad because
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they think that she is supposed to be setting a good example for women. And I actually don't
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agree because I don't think she's ever promised. I was going to say like her whole, uh, claim to fame
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is based on the, her mother releasing a sex tape, which was actually in the news last week again,
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because, um, Ray J, the, uh, gentleman caller, the gentleman, the gentleman caller who was featured
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in said film actually came out and said that it was, um, his idea to release it, but that the
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Kardashian family was well on board and they discussed it all beforehand. And then Kris Jenner
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ended up like making it happen. And that Kim Kardashian was in possession of the tape the entire
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time. Um, not super important to the conversation. Um, but it's interesting that that's, we have
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to remember that this, um, role model came from a sex tape. So, you know, gross. Yeah. And also,
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I mean, we've talked about her body on the show. That's slim thick. Like she does it. She knows
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that she sets a terrible example for women and she sets these unreachable standards and she doesn't
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care. Like she just frankly doesn't care. And nor should she. No. Why not? Why does she
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have to care? It's not like she's the first. So one of the, you know, we can get through our pros
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and cons here, but like one thing that comes to mind right, right off the top is like why she's
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not the first person to set impossible body standards. Like if you want to talk about Marilyn
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Monroe, she herself had her breasts done, had her nose done. Like these people that we look up to
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barely any of them are natural looking. They all starve themselves. So to say that Kim Kardashian,
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yeah, we're like, totally kidding. But like to say that Kim Kardashian should be like
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the bastion for like young girls in terms of like body positivity. It's like she never agreed
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to do that, nor do any of these celebrities agree to do that. Yeah. And I think the funny
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thing that they don't realize is that like by talking about her, by stirring up this controversy,
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they're really playing into exactly what she planned all along. I think she obviously knew
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it was going to piss people off. Like who the hell is Kim Kardashian to deserve to wear
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any historical figures dress? I mean, she can afford literally any gown in the world, but she,
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there was a privilege that came with being one of the only other people to get to wear that gown.
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Yeah. And like, we're just, we're part of the problem too, I guess, because we're talking about
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it, but like, this is exactly what she wanted haters. Yeah. So, and I think that is part of the
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reason that people get so salty about it because they're like, who is she? And it's like, well,
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this is the kind of person that we've propped up in society. And like, whether you like her or not,
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like Marilyn Monroe, isn't that much better. Like, sorry to say she had an affair with a
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sitting president. Like I like, I like Marilyn Monroe just fine, but I had, I been a young woman
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growing up in the sixties, maybe I would have been negatively influenced by her semi trashy behavior.
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Yeah. No, that's a great point. So it's like, we've always propped up beautiful, troubled women.
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Yeah. This isn't the first time and it's not going to be the last. And I think it's also part of
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like Kim Kardashian maybe had an ego thing where she's like, I, she, cause she had the replica
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dress built as well. Cause she wore the real dress for just the photos. And then for the rest of the
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night, she wore a replica of it. Well, it's like, why wouldn't you just wear the replica the whole
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night? Right. Well, she wanted to be the person to, like you mentioned before, the only other person
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other than Marilyn Monroe to wear the dress. So it's like, she's just an ego thing. And like,
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you're playing into it. Thousand percent. I think there are two other things to touch on. So I think
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the, the one, like the people that she should actually be setting a good example for, and I
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think why it's warranted to be pissed off at her is because she's a mother to daughters. So losing
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that amount of weight, even though she and her trainer claim that she did it in a healthy way.
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I mean, okay, sure. You, you were still limiting your diet extremely, you know, um, she's a mom.
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She should be setting a better example for her kids. They're like, Oh, mommy can lose 16 pounds in
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three weeks to fit into a dress for four minutes. Like, is that really the example you want to set
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for your own children? Screw the world. Like who cares what, how you're influencing the rest of us,
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but your own flesh and blood whom you love, I assume. That's weird. Yeah. Well, I, that actually
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reminds me of part of the controversy of, you know, the whole Ray J thing that came up last week,
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because on keeping up with the Kardashians, apparently she said that Ray J had, or someone had
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another sex tape that hadn't been released and someone was threatening to release it. And now her lawyer said,
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no such tape exists. But then on the show, Kim said, there is one. Um, it's just funny because
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she was like, I want to protect my children from this. And it's like, well, maybe I should have
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thought of your future children before you put out the sex tape in the first place. Like,
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obviously we don't live in retrospect, but like, why, like what, Nat, why have you never put out a
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sex tape? Like, because you don't want anyone to fricking see it. You don't want your future
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children. You don't want your family, your father. You don't want any of these people,
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especially your father. Yeah. You don't want these people to see that. So like Kim,
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you should have thought about that maybe before releasing your own sex tape. It's a good point.
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It's a really good point. Thanks. Yeah. You're a genius. Um, and I think the other,
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maybe not so popular take I have on this is why can't people wear these dresses? Like what's the
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point in them just hanging there, never being honored? I mean, cool. People can go in and look
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at it, but like dresses are meant to be worn. I'd never seen it. Me either. Other than in
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black and white. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, that's a really good point. And we were talking about
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this cause like sometimes I like to buy vintage stuff like vintage purses and vintage blouses
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and dresses. And it's like, some people are saying, well, did she get permission from the
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late Marilyn Monroe to wear her dress? It's like, no, but did I have permission from this granny that
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I bought the blouse from? Yeah. Like, I mean from the thrift store, but like it was not my shirt to
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wear. No. Arguably. That's funny. Yeah. So no, that's a good point. We all love thrifted stuff. And then
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when she does it. And she did get permission from the museum. It's not like she stole it.
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Yeah. And it's a private, so it belongs to Ripley's in LA or Florida. Florida. Right. So it's not like
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it was a public museum and that she like bribed, stole it, like you said, or bribed someone or
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whatever. It's like a private company, Ripley's is literally all about attraction and entertainment
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and making sales. So like, they're like happy to have her wear it and maybe more people will go see
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the attraction in real life now because of it. No, definitely. And it seems like to her credit,
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she did respect the conditions. She didn't wear body makeup. And, um, well, that's big of her.
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I know. So we saw her real arms that evening. That's why she didn't look that good. Yeah.
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But you know, at least she was amicable with the people in charge. And I think that's fine. Like,
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I personally think it's fun that we get to see these kind of gowns out in action. I mean,
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we see jewelry get recycled. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Royal jewels and whatnot. Exactly. And like,
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we love fashion. Like, I think it would be so fun to be able to wear gowns like that. Yeah. Maybe
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this one is a little too fragile. I understand that. But in other contexts, why not? Yeah. Why
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not? Yeah. And I think it's funny because a lot of the people, and I don't know specifically how
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these people lean politically, but I'm going to go. So a lot of these people might lean left who are
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like upset by this. And it's like, y'all are the people who topple down statues of people that you
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don't like. Yeah. But it's super offensive to you when Kim Kardashian wears an old dress. Like,
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come on. Yeah. No, that's a funny point. Come on. It's true. Like, you're like, down with whatever.
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And it's like, we must preserve history. Yeah. Like, oh, do we? Yeah. Do we? Hollywood Americana
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is so important, but a statue of like, Sir Johnny McDonald should be taken down. Like, come on.
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Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Let's rename all the universes. Yeah. Yeah. Hello, Ryerson. Marilyn Monroe.
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No. She's just the end. Again, a woman who had an affair with a president. Yeah. Like,
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I don't hate the woman. No, of course not. It's like, it's like, why are we preserving her legacy
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so much? Well, Kim Kardashian. She's blonde. Yeah. People too like blondes. It's going to happen to me
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too. I'm going to wear your clothes when you die now. Not without permission. No. I'm going to have
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to lose 16 pounds to fit into them. You'll be in a lot of trouble if you do that. So there's a lot,
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um, one of the things that I, this is not any of the talking points that we had, but isn't it
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funny to see, um, his, what's his face? Her date? Pete Davidson. Pete Davidson's finally not looking
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like a trash bag. He still kind of looked like one though. I mean, it's just funny because like,
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literally like a month ago or two months ago when they came out, he looked like someone who lived
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in his mother's basement with his disgusting hair and his gross jewelry and his gross clothes. And now
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he's like Vogue. And it's like, hmm, this is funny when men are like, it's just funny. You got whipped,
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boy. Yeah. That's fair. She's a powerful woman. She is. And she'll tell you what to wear and you
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will wear it. But, um, also just maybe one final thing on this. Yes. The blonde hair, Kim,
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the blonde, 10 hours, 10 hours. What's the longest you've ever sat in the chair getting your hair
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done? Like three. I've done six. Oh wow. It was awful. You have a lot more hair than me. I had foils.
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I had, it was highlights. So hers was a full bleach job that she got. And she did 10 hours of like,
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cause you have to take it out and then do another lift and rinse and another, uh, blue,
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whatever it is. Yeah. Toner. Yeah. And so for me, the longest I've ever sat in was six hours and it
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was atrocious and it was so expensive and I hated it. And I was devastated at the end. So I can only
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imagine like triggered. Yeah. Seriously. Like the, her scalp, her scalp. And she made a comment,
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like, I'm willing to lose my hair for this. And it's like, why? It's cause you can afford to get
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new hair. Yeah. You'll just get new hair plugged in hair from your thighs up on your head. The rest
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of us don't have that privilege. No, this is the only hair we have. It's just like, I also think she
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just didn't look as good as she normally looks. Well, that's another thing I wanted to say. I don't
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think any of this paid off. You losing 16 pounds, you dyeing your hair. You didn't look the best. No,
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she, she looked kind of old and I'm not like just because she's a beautiful woman. It was just,
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I was kind of just like, Oh, it's kind of discipline. Like before I knew what the dress was,
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I was just like, Oh, like I was like, that's kind of plain. I agree. Like not your best. Like
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every other people looked way better. We'll talk about it later. Yes, we will. SJP. Literally
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almost everybody looked. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't worth it. It wasn't a dress that was made
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for her. It didn't fit her body. She couldn't get her fake butt implants in it. And then she wore
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the replica for the rest of the night anyways, which probably was made to fit her body, which
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probably looked awesome, which we don't even get to see. Yeah. It's like, unfortunate. I would have
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loved to see her in like a, a costumized version of the dress. And even then it was like, it's not
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even on the theme. Yeah. Like, yeah, whatever. Yeah. You know, we can go on about this forever,
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but we will. Comments will be meaner and meaner as we go on. So I watch our show. So let's talk.
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You don't want us to hear us talk about Kim Kardashian. It's true. It's true. Uh, we will be doing a
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segment where we read your mean comments one day. So please just give us your worst. Um, we're ready
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for it. Maybe we should talk about something less controversial. Um, abortion Roe v. Wade y'all.
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So we did talk about abortion a couple of weeks ago, but, um, it's unfortunate that we have to
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touch this again, never talk about it. Yeah. I just don't do it. That's kind of the bottom line,
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but here we are before we jump into it. Can I just offer a little historical background on
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your view aid? I know we did a little bit briefly, but this will take the new fans for the new fans.
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There's so many of you. Um, I'll just give me two seconds here. So in 1969, Norma L. McCorvey found
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out she was pregnant. So in Texas at the time where she was living, uh, abortion was legal only for
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rape and incest. Okay. So she visited an illegal clinic to get an abortion and she discovered it
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was shut down. And then she teamed up with Linda Coffey and Sarah Weddington, two recent graduates of
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the university of Texas law school who brought forth a lawsuit on her behalf. Um, so they changed her
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name to Jane Roe, so as to protect her identity. Basically they argued that she had a right to
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obtain an abortion in a legal setting and the U S district court for the Northern district of Texas
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agreed. So in 1973, the Supreme court ruled that a woman was, uh, has the Liberty, sorry, to have an
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abortion without excessive government restriction on the federal level, meaning federal government
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doesn't have the power to stop abortion in the first trimester. So then on May 3rd, yes,
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Politico reported that they were given the initial draft, uh, with a majority opinion that voted to
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overturn this very historical precedent setting court ruling. Yes. That's what we're going to talk
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about. And it's important to note that this does not mean that people in America cannot get an
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abortion now that there's some new federal law that's overturned abortion. It does mean, however,
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that, uh, states that previously had abortion bans and ones that are wanting to now can possibly once
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the actual, so it's not even overturned yet. It's just a leak that is saying that probably this summer
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it will likely be overturned. Um, so it's important to know you still can get an abortion in the United
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States. You might just have to take a little bit of a drive. So people are acting like this is,
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they're being denied clean drinking water. They are reaction. Like my life is in danger. It's,
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it's, it's insanity. It's insanity. It's absolutely insanity. And there's so much
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actual misinformation spreading around crazy. And one of the huge, uh, proponents of spreading this
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misinformation is of course, teen. Oh, shocking. Oh, no teen Vogue. What are we going to do with you?
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Maybe we should just start with the fact that it's a little weird that teen Vogue cares so much about
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abortions when it's a magazine for teenagers. Yeah. Not young adults, but teenagers, tweens,
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you know, kids in high school, middle school kids who don't like, I was reading Vogue when I was in
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high school. So I can't, I, teen Vogue to me was too young. Yeah. When I was in high school,
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I was like, Oh, that's for kids. Yeah. But not anymore. Yeah. It's, uh, it's teaching you the good
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stuff. So, um, should we just jump right into the first article? So this, this article is from
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teen Vogue. Um, and it kind of follows how, uh, what's her name? Oh my gosh. What's her name?
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Elizabeth Warren, my goodness. Oh, sorry. Elizabeth Warren, um, had a not so eloquent or whatever.
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She's not graceful. She just starts screaming and they're like, she's allowed to, cause she's so
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mad. She's so passionate. I think it's also important to note that these, um, pro choicers
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are trying to reword it from pro-life to anti-choice. So I'm not pro-life. I'm anti-choice where I'm like,
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can I just reword it that you're anti-baby, you're anti-life, you're anti-family. Like,
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would that feel good to them? Aren't these the same people who are anti-choice when it comes to
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taking a COVID-19 vaccine? Yes, they are. Ooh. Yes, they are, Natasha. It's interesting. Um, that is
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the thing that I've noticed the most is where people are like, oh, all these pro, all these
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anti-vaxxers, like, where are you on this, my body, my choice thing now? And it's like, yeah, I mean,
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you can draw that comparison, but you're kind of forgetting one major element of this argument where
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it's like, it's not just your body. There's a freaking other body involved in it. And that's
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called the baby. Yeah. And I mean, I correct me if I'm wrong, but when you kill a pregnant person,
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is it not considered a double homicide? It is, Natasha. Oh my goodness gracious. Oh. Yeah. So
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this article here, it's a different one. Um, but it's also from Teen Vogue and it's young people are
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switching their birth control before abortion acts, uh, access via Roe v. Wade falls. And if we want to
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look at the sign that this young lady is holding up here, it says, this isn't really about babies.
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It's about controlling our bodies. What? It's not about babies. What's it about then? What is it
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about? The pro-life movement is literally about protecting actually babies and mothers, y'all.
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And fathers. And fathers. Who nobody seems to care about at all. Yeah. No, no one seems,
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that's a whole nother discussion that we should definitely have one day. The only people that are
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allowed to have a con like, like voice on this, who are men are pro choice men. Yeah. And they're
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creeps. And they're so creepy. Like all I see on my Instagram are men that I know in real life who
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are so pro vaccine, who some of them literally the same people literally have attacked me personally
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for being pro choice when it comes to vaccine. And then they're out here being like, uh, we're a
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woman's right to choose what happens to her body. And I'm like, calm down, sir. Like you've literally,
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literally attacked me personally about my decision to not be vaccinated. And now you're saying you want to
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abort babies. What you want is you want sex with no consequences. Absolutely. That's what it feels
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like. No, it's so true. Um, and I mean, these people always talk about, oh, reproductive health,
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uh, women's rights, you know, women's reproductive, whatever. And it's like,
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yet you refer to women as uterus owners, birthing people, you know, pregnant people. It's like,
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you can't have it both ways. Like if we're gonna, as Ali Beth Stuckey tweeted this, actually,
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uh, let me just find it here in my notes. She said, women's rights to most progressive just
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means the right to kill babies and doesn't include ensuring women's bathrooms, locker rooms, sports
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teams, prisons, and abuse shelters are protected and safe. So spare me if I don't take their outcry
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seriously. It's true. Like we can't just scream justice for all and then exclude the unborn and
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then be okay when biological males are raping women in prison because they identify as females.
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Like, I'm sorry, you cannot have it both ways. And, and women who are holding up signs saying
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like, if you don't have a uterus, you don't have an opinion. It's like, where were you during the
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conversation about fricking Leah Thomas and all that? Like she doesn't have a uterus or he doesn't
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have a uterus or whatever you want to call Leah Thomas. No uterus, but definitely a woman in your
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eyes. But anyone without a uterus doesn't have an opinion on the life or death of their own
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offspring. Yeah. That's cray. You guys, that is straight up cray. It's straight. This whole conversation
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is crazy. And, and you think Teen Vogue would do a better job at trying to encourage young people
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to prevent pregnancy. Yes. Prevent pregnancy. Exactly. That's a whole other bag of worms. And I
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think we should talk about it because in all of the research that we did for this episode, I never
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saw other than from Evie. Yeah. I never saw one article saying, well, here's some natural forms of
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birth control. Here's how you check your basal body temperature, right? Like learn about your
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menstruation cycle, your cycle, your whole cycle, not just your period. Like there's a great Evie
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article on just that. It's literally, and we've talked about this before. Yeah. About how tracking
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your entire cycle helps not only just preventing pregnancy, but like tracking your moods, like
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your, your energy level and your moods are dipped right before your period because your, um, estrogen
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level increase. Yeah. Increases. And when you're ovulating, you have more energy because your project,
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your testosterone or progesterone or whatever the one it is. There's a lot of drones around.
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Yeah. There's a lot of your estrogen dips. And so you, you go through these cycles and it really
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affects your mood and how you feel and when you're feeling sick and tired and when you have more
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headaches and when you're prone to bloating and all this stuff. And people have, there was no mention
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of any of this in any of the articles and they're, and they're all saying like, like, uh, contraception
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is super important because people are scared that, um, this Roe v. Wade being overturned is going to
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overturn other laws that allow women to get contra access to contraceptives, which is not
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listed anywhere. It's not listed anywhere. But if you're going to go down that road,
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why don't you talk about the natural forms of contraceptive? It's, it's like, there are so
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many things that you can do to ensure that you're not going to get pregnant. And obviously one of them
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is abstinence. And I'm not going to be your high school teacher and just say, don't have sex,
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don't have sex, but like don't have sex maybe. But there's also like, you can track your cycle.
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There are times on your cycle where you cannot get pregnant. Then you can pull out,
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you can wear condoms, like you can track your temperature. Like there are so many things you
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can do. It's not listed anywhere. And it's really frustrating. Yeah, no, it's true. And I think
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people just need to be aware, like when you consent to sex, you do consent to pregnancy. Okay. Like
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that is, that is one of the implications of having sex with someone. So you are responsible. You are
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responsible. And that means when you get pregnant, you, it is not the baby's fault that you decided to
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have sex with Rando McGee. Okay. Like it's not fair that these innocent things who don't have things,
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those people, these innocent babies that don't have a voice, don't get to defend themselves. And
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you are actually, you're taking away their right to live. You're deciding for them. You are playing
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God. Yeah. It's like your body, it's like their body, your choice. Yeah. It's completely unfair.
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It's so unfair. And it should also mention because, you know, critics of what we're saying right now
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will say, well, what about women who didn't choose to have sex? What about women who were raped?
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Sure. We looked it up just before coming in here. You knew already, but I didn't. Um, the actual stats
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from a study from 2004 and 1970 or 86. Yeah. 1978 or something. Yeah. One percent of abortions are
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because of rape. Yeah. Less than one percent are because of incest. So yes, that is obviously super
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tragic. And I think that maybe there's a conversation to be had about that when you literally didn't
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consent to sex. However, there are still things you can do. Like you can just put your child up for
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adoption. Like there are lots of things you can do. One percent. We're talking about one percent.
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Yeah. No, it's true. And then another argument that I would love to bring up is that a lot of
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people say that when you render abortion illegal, women are going to go, you know, and do illegal
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things or they're going to hurt themselves trying to abort the baby themselves. But actually,
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apparently the number of women who died from illegal abortions prior to Roe v. Wade was actually
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greatly inflated by those lobbying for the legalization of abortion. So they basically lied about how many
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people were actually dying from like, I guess, self homemade abortions and stuff just so that they
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could further their political agenda. So it's really not true. And in fact, I would argue, actually,
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I'm sure there's stats to support this, that since legalize, since the legalization of abortion,
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there have been more, not less. Yes. A hundred percent. So it's because of, and I think it's because
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of Teen Vogue, for example, who is allowing abortion. They glamorize it. And it's a contraceptive. Yeah.
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It's not a form of birth control to kill a baby once it's already been fertilized and growing in
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your stomach. Like that is, you're too late for contraception and birth control at that point.
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Also, it's interesting. Remember months ago, the whole Joe Rogan thing with the horse deworming,
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the ivermectin thing, vice, I think it was vice. I'll have to look that up. But one of these left
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wing publications was just, you know, slandering him saying that he was taking horse dewormer and how,
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how, you know, dangerous that is for him to be telling his fans that he can take a horse base,
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even though literally his doctor prescribed it for him. He didn't get it from a vet.
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However, the same publication, I think it was vice said that if abortion becomes illegal in your
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state, you can use a veterinary. I forget what the actual use for the animal is, but it causes,
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it's a pill that you can get from a vet that will cause you to have an abortion at your house.
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My God, what are you doing? Like you're not just, so it's not okay to cure your cough with something
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that can also be used to help a horse, but it is okay to kill a baby with something that may be
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helpful for a horse. Like what if you don't kill it? What if you just hurt it? And I think the same
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people who are rah, rah, rah, abortion, teenagers, you deserve your abortions, the pro-choice lobby in
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general, they don't have to deal with the consequences. When you get an abortion, you have
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to deal with those implications. You have to deal with the spiritual, physical, mental toll that that
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has on your body. Okay. Like these people who are like, Oh, whatever, just go for it. It's like,
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it's like going to the dentist. It's like, you know, it's not, it's not, it is not. And they don't
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have to deal with the consequences you do. And as we mentioned in previous episodes, there is grace for
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you. If you've had an abortion, we're not here to condemn you or judge you there. There is grace for you.
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Like, and there are people who want to talk to you and support you, you know, go to church,
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talk to your women who've had abortions is not, not helpful and not grace. That's not the game
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we want to play. You know, we're not here to judge you, but we do want people to be aware that
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there's something very sinister about this narrative around abortion. Yeah. The culture we live in where
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yeah. Remember that video that, did you see that video last week where this old woman was talking
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to a bunch of young, like university students? No. Oh my gosh. She said, she said, if girls,
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if you get pregnant, go down to the abortion clinic and get that bastard sucked out. So the person who
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can't have kids. Yes. Said the old woman. Yeah. Said the ratchet old woman. Yes. And they're like,
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it was one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. Well, we should add that clip in here for
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y'all to watch for yourself. It's highly disgusting. That's great. Yeah. And it's like kind of like,
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yeah, like you said, like this woman can't even have kids. Like maybe you're just jealous that they
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still have their fertility, which is horrible, but you know what happens, older women being jealous
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of young women. So it's like really disgusting. There's so much to talk about. There's so much to
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address here. And I wish we had more time to, you know, really deep dive even more. Um, I think too,
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one of the interesting things about people who are like pro abortion is that they don't really
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have any idea why they believe what they believe. Like it's, it's like the same. It's just the
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narrative. It's just what everyone's told. Exactly. You know, I think people actually literally
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believe, Oh, abortion is going to become illegal everywhere. I can't have birth control. And it's
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that that's not true. And I think it's, it's a part of the reason why there's so much ignorance
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on that side. It's because the same people who deem themselves as open-minded aren't actually
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willing to go and research the other side to actually educate themselves on why people on the
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right, more so more often, you know, are pro-life or are pro-choice when it comes to vaccines
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or are anti-mask potentially that you don't even want to take the time to hear why we feel
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this way. Yet you call yourself open-minded. You ain't. You're just reading your friend's
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Instagram post and that's that then you're calling it a day. Like you don't know crap,
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dude. I also understand like if you, cause like some of us know people who have had abortions,
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like do I want to make my friends cry and feel bad? No, absolutely not. So I understand
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the, um, the, the need to feel like, okay, I don't want to be pro-life because I'm going
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to make my friend feel bad. And like, she might hate me and she might feel bad about herself.
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Like I get it. But when I, I, I'm still teetering with it myself. Like I don't even, I mean,
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I consider myself pro-life, but I also consider myself pro-choice. Like it's hard for me.
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Like I'm not quite all the way there yet. But when we were doing our research for our first
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episode talking about abortion, I watched, um, I did a lot of research and I watched a video on,
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um, how babies are formed in the womb and it's like five weeks. They start to look like something
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that you'd recognize and you can get a pill abortion up to 12 weeks. So at 12 weeks, it really
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looks like something like a, it's a baby obviously, but it really looks like a baby and it feels pain
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and it has a heart. It has a heart and yeah. And it, it really started to shift my view on the
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whole subject. And I started thinking, I mean, I never wanted one for myself and I never would
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have, but I started thinking that it really pushed me on to the pro-choice side or sorry,
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the pro-life side. And I just think that if you want to be pro-choice, you should really look into
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that yourself. Look at what an abortion actually is. Look at the terminology that they use. We've talked
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about this before, but Planned Parenthood uses the term pregnancy tissue when talking about a freaking
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baby, a human being with a soul, by the way. Yeah. So it's, it's really upsetting. And if you want
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to be pro-choice fine, but do the research on both sides and just see exactly what you're doing. Look
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at what a medical abortion does, which is the pill and look what a surgical abortion does. Yeah.
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Look at, watch one. Yeah. You can watch it. You should watch. You can watch one through like a
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ultrasound. It's really, really like it's just, it's like watching a murder. Yeah. It's watching a
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murder. That is what it is. Yeah. Yeah. So you should, you should do your research before if you're
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planning on having one, like do your research and know that there's other options. You can
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definitely give birth and put your baby up for adoption to someone because there's multiple
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families who are infertile. I will take your baby. Yeah. I'll take your baby. Like there
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are people who just can't have babies of their own and that they would love your baby and they
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will give it a great life. And yeah, consider that. And I think too, just, you know, on this
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note, um, if you are listening to the show and you are considering getting an abortion, please
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reach out to someone like reach out to a Christian friend, you know, your parents, us, email us.
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I will pray for you. Like, honestly, I'm serious. Like, we don't want you to do this alone. You are
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not alone. There are so many organizations out there who will help you, who will help you, you
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know, give you access to things that you may not be able to afford, et cetera. Like there are so many
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options for you. You are not as alone as the, as our society wants you to feel. Yeah. They want you to
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feel alone. It's just like the, the isolation due to COVID itself. Like it's, it's, it sounds like a
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tinfoil hat theory, but like, look at you, look at your life. You live in a condo alone. You order your food
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online, you watch Netflix, you work from home, you're isolated, but you don't need to be, you
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don't just because that's how people are trying to make you feel. You don't need to live that way.
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And I also think it's important to note that, you know, when we were talking about the 1%
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of abortions because of rape, the, the number one reason that women have abortions is because
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they don't think that the baby would fit into their life. Yeah. So it's like, that's super fickle,
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but if that's the reason, yeah, if that's the reason, then have the baby and give it up to someone
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who will fit into their life. Like if that's your reason, that's not a good reason or do a better
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job preventing pregnancy. Condoms pull out, check your basal body temperature, like track
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your cycles. There's so much to know. It's a quick Google away friends. It really is. And I was
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shocked yesterday. I was reading about, I'd never knew about your body temperature and how you
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literally can like, there are, there are, um, apps, there are apps and you can have like a
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thermostat or thermometer and you can check your temperature and then you plug it into your app
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and it'll tell you like, Oh, you're fertile in two days. Yeah. Don't have sex on those two days.
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Like literally, or it's like five days maybe where you're fertile. Yeah. The rest of the time,
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you're not, you're not fertile. So go for it. You know, it's the science, you know,
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safe and effective you guys. Yeah. Should we, should we just quickly read some of these?
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Yeah. I think we should quickly read some of the people who are afraid. Yeah. So this is from an
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article from, Oh, Teen Vogue. Young people are switching their birth control before abortion access
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via Roe v. Wade. Uh, why does this make no sense to me? This article title? Because it's written
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by Teen Vogue. Also one of the paragraphs in this article starts with and the word and I thought
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that was a no, no stylistic choice. I'm not a great grammar person, but I started some sentences with
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and, but then I don't go and say, and just kill the baby. That's funny. Um, here's a funny one. So
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these are young women who are talking about why they're so scared about Roe v. Wade. Um,
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so this says Maya says she isn't attracted to men, but it's thought about purchasing plan B just in
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case. My note was erm. Why? Why? I don't even know if we need to explain it. Yeah. Goodness gracious.
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Okay. This one was interesting too, though. So Beatrice says that as a sexual assault survivor,
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she turned away from the option of an IUD because she was afraid the insertion would be triggering.
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It's like, but having a living human being dismembered or sucked out of your uterus would be less
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triggering. You're not making sense. And I'm so sorry that you were sexually assaulted. Yeah,
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no, that's awful. I would wish that on nobody. Honestly, that's just tremendously terrifying and
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horrible, but come on. Like you don't make any sense, Beatrice. No. You don't make sense.
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And this one is Hannah had bad side effects from birth control in the past, but she's now returning to
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it because she said she'd rather risk it than getting pregnant in post Roe America. Again, that's not your
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only option. And it's not contraceptive. Yeah. Like contraceptive. Sorry. Well, birth control is.
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Yeah. But, but abortion is. No. Yeah, exactly. All of these, the points that these people are making
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are leading me to believe that they actually think abortion is contraceptive. They do. And some women
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treat it like that. Yeah. And it's, I'm sorry, but it's gross. No. Not trying to be judgmental,
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but that's gross. Like that's straight up gross. If you're just having unprotected sex and then thinking,
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oh, if I get pregnant, I'll just get an abortion. Like that is disgusting. It is. It happens by
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accident. I mean, sure. Like if you, if you tried you, yeah, but say you, say you did like track
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your temperature and you did wear condoms, like at that point, it's like, you know, kind of God is
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telling you something. Well, like I said earlier, consent to sex is consent to pregnancy. Even if
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you've taken those steps, like that's just what happens when you have sex, like you could get
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pregnant no matter what. So I'm just think that people need to be more responsible. If you're really that
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scared, don't have sex. Yeah. Why is teen Vogue like not mentioning that maybe don't have sex at
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such a young age when you're so young that you're like, I can't even imagine having a baby. It's
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like, close your legs, like do other stuff, do other stuff in a sports team, you know, take up clay and
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pottery. Yeah. That's a good point. You like me in high school. Just be nerds like us. Yeah. Just watch
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Lord of the Rings for, you know, four years straight. Perfect. Become a theater kid. It worked out
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really well for us. Yeah. It is the best contraceptive. Yeah. Oopsie. Oopsie. This was a very fruitful
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conversation. No pun intended. Yeah. Well, I think that's the sure. That's the sure. That's the sure.
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