Rebel News Podcast - June 14, 2022


Miss Understood No. 18 — Raising Red Flags About Porn


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Kat and Nat talk about Kris Jenner and how she's the perfect example of a "toxic mom." They also discuss the correlation between porn and murder, and how the Kardashian family exploits their children in order to profit off of them.

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00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to Misunderstood, the show for all you culturally and politically misunderstood
00:00:21.860 ladies and gents. We are your hosts. I'm Kat. And I'm Nat. And today we're going to
00:00:26.820 be talking about toxic moms, looking at you, Kris Jenner. And then of course, we're going
00:00:31.060 to switch things up a little and talk about the lighthearted topic of the correlation
00:00:35.320 between porn addicts and murder. Anyway, we're going to start things off with our patented
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00:01:31.100 Yeah. For you. For you. And for Rebel News because, you know. Yeah. Well, that's how we
00:01:35.720 keep the lights on. Yeah. And you can make a stir in public settings in which you wear the
00:01:40.940 shirts. Wow. It's going to be great. Let's do it. Let's piss some people off. People are
00:01:44.660 going to love you. Okay. All right. I think that was good. We're going to move on. We're
00:01:48.300 going to move on. Let's talk about toxic mommy. Let's do it. Let's do it. So this first article,
00:01:53.440 I think this is the one article that we're going to like. Yeah. Reference the most. Yeah.
00:01:58.240 So this is from Evie Magazine. You know we love Evie. Sorry. My hair is just. Oh. Okay.
00:02:04.040 Anyways, the article title is, Thanks to Kris Jenner, the Kardashian sisters are the definition
00:02:09.400 of mommy issues. Yes. Yes. Yes. It was an interesting read. It was an interesting 12 minute
00:02:16.160 read. Yeah. 12 minutes. And I don't think we want to spend too much time specifically on
00:02:19.380 Kris necessarily. Not necessarily. I think that she's just the perfect example of a toxic mom 1.00
00:02:24.420 because I think a lot of people are like, oh, a toxic mom, you know, I have a list here
00:02:28.460 of some like telltale signs that a mom is toxic and it's like controlling, manipulative, humiliates 1.00
00:02:34.180 you, invalidates your feelings, et cetera. But I also think there's a side that's a lot more
00:02:38.660 sinister where you can't necessarily see it as clearly that a mom is toxic. And I think that
00:02:43.520 Kris Jenner is the perfect example because she's overbearing. Um, she's, she wants to 1.00
00:02:49.660 be her kid's best friend. You know, she like, she like markets her children as products. 1.00
00:02:54.680 I'd call it exploiting. Yes. Exploiting. Frankly. Yeah. She exploits her children. Definitely. 1.00
00:02:58.680 And, um, maybe they like it though. That's, I mean, we'll get into that. Yeah. I think they
00:03:01.660 probably like it a little too much, which is also like, hello, red flag. That's a red flag.
00:03:06.700 Red flag. Yeah. Um, I mean, you know, she takes 10%, a 10% cut of all of her kids' business. 1.00
00:03:13.360 Amateur. Yeah. She's the, she's so rich. She is so rich. And she never had to show her 0.69
00:03:18.240 vision. Yeah, it's true. She just let Kim do it for her. Yeah. I mean, when, and she's
00:03:22.900 worth $190 million. Now I wonder if she was worth that when the show, when that sex tape 0.96
00:03:27.780 was released, I have a feeling not so much. Yeah. And she's famously quoted as saying, um,
00:03:32.760 I wrote it down, but it's like, she said, I never have spent a dollar of my own or I've
00:03:36.960 never worked or something. Like, what did she say? Oh, I don't know, but that. I wrote
00:03:40.620 it. That must be nice, Chris. Yeah. Must be nice. Um, should we give a little context
00:03:46.240 then about her? Yeah. Let's give some context. Okay. Do you have notes? I have a few notes.
00:03:49.980 You got a few notes? Yeah, I got some notes. All right. Take it away. Okay. Well, Kris Jenner
00:03:53.880 was only 17 years old when she met her first husband, Robert Kardashian. That's young. And
00:03:58.080 she was apparently dating someone else at the time. Yeah. Classic. Classic. Um, she, okay. Here's
00:04:02.560 the quote. Right here. Yeah. She's quoted as saying, uh, she's never paid for anything
00:04:06.860 in her life. Gosh, that's the dream, isn't it? That's the dream. Um, great. Uh, so I
00:04:13.160 guess her claim to fame though is through the famous OJ Simpson trial, which took place in
00:04:17.500 1995 where her husband, Robert Kardashian, her now ex-husband, uh, was one of the lawyers.
00:04:23.300 And apparently Kris had a rumored affair. Was he a lawyer or just a friend? He was a lawyer.
00:04:28.400 Okay. Yeah. Well, he is a, well, was a lawyer. Yeah. I didn't know. I thought he wasn't
00:04:32.520 actually one of the OJ Simpson lawyers. Oh, maybe not. I think he's just a lawyer and
00:04:35.380 they're family friends. Yeah. I think you might be right. Yeah. Um, cause they were
00:04:38.820 friends with, uh, OJ's wife. Yeah. And they went on vacation together. Right. And there
00:04:43.740 is a rumor unsubstantiated, uh, that there was a steamy hot tub sesh between Kris Jenner
00:04:49.900 and OJ Simpson, which led to the divorce from Robert Kardashian. Nice. Unsubstantiated, but
00:04:54.460 widely known. And you know, I don't know about you, but to me that just sounds like
00:04:58.260 a completely ethical woman. Yeah. She sounds great. And she's also known, uh, she's been
00:05:04.300 open about having a two year. Multiple affairs. Yes. At least one other affair that she's
00:05:09.220 acknowledged that lasted two years while she was married. Right. As well. So she's, she's
00:05:14.020 an upstanding citizen. And then of course, you know, after her messy divorce, uh, where she 1.00
00:05:18.700 was cut off financially from Robert, uh, she married Bruce, now Caitlyn Jenner, five
00:05:25.080 months, I think after six months, six months after they started dating. Um, which was like
00:05:30.040 six months after her divorce. Right. Yeah. So that's, so I guess money was tight and she 0.99
00:05:35.400 just needed a new boo to, uh, to buy her some Dior. I don't know. Transgender or not. She 1.00
00:05:40.220 needed a new partner. Yeah. Well, anyway, um, so basically I just think the, like, she 0.73
00:05:48.680 she's a bad, she's set been setting a bad example for her daughters forever. Yeah. And 1.00
00:05:54.060 you know, we, we don't know what's in her heart and like, maybe she has, maybe she has
00:05:59.700 atoned for her past behavior. Yeah. Like it's possible. I've never heard, I've never heard
00:06:03.620 her speak on it. No. Saying, you know, I was a horrible person and I did this and this
00:06:07.840 and now I've seen the light and I want to move forward with my life. Like that's one thing
00:06:11.100 I've never heard that, but maybe we can't write it off. Yeah. No, of course. Only God
00:06:14.980 knows. Exactly. It's possible that she has, um, you know, atoned for her sins. Maybe
00:06:21.580 not. Yeah. Um, but it was the, you know, we've mentioned the, the sex tape release of
00:06:27.600 Kim Kardashian. In 2007. Yeah. With Ray J, who I don't really know who that is. Me
00:06:32.000 either. But Kim Kardashian was only 23 at the time, y'all. She knew him. Yeah. Allegedly.
00:06:36.620 Yeah. Very well. Intimate. It's just hard to imagine like, and we're not like, this is
00:06:43.320 going to sound judgmental, but it's hard to imagine having a sex tape. It is very
00:06:48.020 difficult for me to imagine. And then it's hard to imagine being like, Hey mom, I have
00:06:52.040 this sex tape. And then mom being like, excellent. Like, yeah, because we can profit. Well, and
00:06:57.280 the thing is like Kim Kardashian had learned, I think a lot from Paris Hilton. Yes. That's
00:07:01.920 what kind of made the release the sex tape. Right. And Paris Hilton. I mean, I actually
00:07:05.520 think I have a lot of respect for Paris Hilton off the record, but, um, this is not
00:07:09.860 off the record. It's on the record now, but, but, um, she, she worked for Paris Hilton.
00:07:15.820 And so she was like, well, this made Paris a huge success. I am a D-lister. I want to
00:07:21.000 play with the big wigs in Hollywood. So maybe this will work for me too. And I guess there
00:07:26.660 is an, um, unauthorized biography of Kris Jenner called dirty, sexy money. The unauthorized
00:07:32.200 biography of Kris Jenner, where the author claims that Kris was there every step of the way as
00:07:36.280 a middleman was brought in to market it to an adult entertainment company. It being the
00:07:40.800 sex tape. Uh, one insider told the, the authors that they'd even seen Kris Jenner's signature
00:07:45.800 on the contract because basically it's illegal for a porn company to release this, a video,
00:07:51.520 a sex tape like that without the performers or consent. So performers, performers consent.
00:07:57.360 Yeah. So they needed this signed, uh, they needed a signature from Kim Kardashian. So they
00:08:02.100 can't just like take it and, you know, I'm just reiterating what you said, but they can't
00:08:06.000 just take it and post it on the internet without their consent. So not like Pornhub, which we'll
00:08:09.840 talk about. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Um, so someone from the family knew and there was a lawsuit,
00:08:15.120 uh, apparently the Kardashian family, the Kardashian Jenner family sued the production company,
00:08:20.220 but they settled out of court privately and no one knows the details of it. So it's, you know,
00:08:25.200 not outside the realm of possibility that it was a, it was just a, an act to be like,
00:08:30.240 how dare you? That's so, I'm so embarrassed. Oh, outrage. Shock. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for the,
00:08:36.160 thanks for the show though. Yeah, no, definitely. Yeah. And then of course, like after the,
00:08:41.520 this debacle kind of came to be the, they signed with, um, what's his name's production company,
00:08:46.980 Ryan Seacrest production company. And then, and hence keeping up with the Kardashians was born
00:08:51.980 and it's still alive today. Yes. Yes. And they're so rich. They are so rich and it's so HD. The
00:08:58.020 production isn't anyway, that's beside the point, but so, okay, what does this have to do? Everyone
00:09:01.900 watching this is going to be like, I don't care about the Kardashians, but what does this have
00:09:04.860 to do with toxic moms? Well, first of all, you all secretly care. Cause if you comment about
00:09:08.960 something, you clearly care. Um, so there's this quote from the article. So what's the proof,
00:09:14.440 I guess that Chris has said a bad example. So although they've certainly had much success in
00:09:19.120 their careers, unfortunately the same can't be said for their romantic relationships and mental
00:09:23.020 health up until this point, not a single one of them has had a successful marriage. Three of them
00:09:26.560 have kids with men who weren't their husbands and Kelly Jenner's appearance has transformed 1.00
00:09:30.600 dramatically over the years to reveal what some would say is a completely different person.
00:09:34.500 I would say that. Yeah. I mean, Kim, Kim's had three failed marriages. Yeah. Courtney was in like
00:09:40.120 a nine year relationship with Scott where they had children. Um, Chloe keeps dating cheaters and going 0.98
00:09:46.100 back to them. That's really sad. And Kylie got pregnant at 20 outside of marriage and her,
00:09:50.960 Travis Scott is like, she's had a new face put on her face. She got a new face. Totally new face.
00:09:55.460 Like they've all had work done. Yeah. All of them, but she's got a totally new face. It's
00:09:59.060 like really sad. It is sad. It's terrifying. And she's so young. My God. Yeah. So, I mean,
00:10:02.580 these are not, I know they're like the, the article says they're financially successful,
00:10:06.560 but like they're not healthy people. Yeah. They're not productive. Normal. No. Like they
00:10:13.060 can't, they can't do what like normal people are supposed to do, which is get married and have
00:10:17.200 babies and set a good example for your children. And I think it's Kris Jenner's fault. Yes. Well,
00:10:22.640 yes. I mean, their father is no longer here too. Apparently, um, he was super against being in the
00:10:28.300 limelight and he really valued hard work. And I will say like anyone who knows me knows my family.
00:10:34.420 We have a rich history of divorce. Like my parents have been divorced like a thousand times each,
00:10:38.180 like a billion times. It's, it's a, it's a joke, but I would say that's not as I think anyone would
00:10:43.560 say that's not success. Like we're not kidding ourselves and thinking like, Oh, the more divorces you
00:10:48.760 have, the better off you are. Like every, I think, and especially for me, like I hope to have one
00:10:54.180 husband and a family solid unit. And I think if people are going to get triggered by saying like,
00:10:59.240 Oh, divorce, like I'm the one I should be triggered because you know, I've, I've lived through multiple
00:11:03.100 divorces, but it's like, it's, no one can argue that that's a nice thing for children to go through.
00:11:07.260 Well, you were a child that went through that. So you know exactly how these children are going to
00:11:11.000 feel. I mean, I'm super messed up. You're she's not, she's good. She's turned out great. Um,
00:11:16.040 but like now all of the Kardashians kids are not going to grow up with proper dads in the house.
00:11:23.320 Like it's just a mess. It's a mess. And to be fair, their dad died. So it's not like, Oh,
00:11:28.260 I mean like their kids. Yes. True. Yeah. Yeah. Like they are all have issues with men. All of the
00:11:32.820 Kardashian made a comment about how like they, they don't have a father in their life. It's like,
00:11:37.080 well, he died. Yeah. That's not, he died of cancer. Yeah. That's not really fair. That's not really
00:11:40.700 their fault. I would not. Plus like they really, they really hold him too. Yeah.
00:11:44.960 Yeah. Like he's well revered in that family. Um, they really respect him. So it's, yeah. Um,
00:11:51.420 so you've watched the show, right? Yes. I've never watched it, but I know there's this one clip that
00:11:56.580 I did see of a great example of toxic mommy where it's like a really early season where Kylie is 0.59
00:12:02.020 super young and she's supposed to be in high school and she's like run away from home or something like 0.90
00:12:06.700 less dramatic than that. But she's walking down the street and Kris Jenner's chasing her with the 1.00
00:12:10.140 production company in her SUV. And she's like, come on, talk to me, just get in the car. And Kylie's like,
00:12:13.860 no. Like she's like having a panic attack. She's like, no, I don't want to go to school. Mom.
00:12:16.920 Like just listen to me. Never listen. Like, yeah. Uh, Kendall doesn't want to go to school. I don't
00:12:20.720 want to go to school, but I have panic attacks. And her mom is like, instead of being like, can we
00:12:24.840 cut this scene? Like my daughter's having a moment here. She, they keep it rolling. And like, it's hard
00:12:30.220 to imagine that. I think Kylie was, I mean, I'm guessing like 16 at the time, like she's still in high
00:12:35.440 school. So she couldn't have been more than 18. They were very young. So I can't imagine that at that age,
00:12:40.580 she was like happy to have that moment broadcast on television. Like we all, anyone who's had
00:12:44.820 anxiety knows it's like embarrassing and painful. And like, you don't really want that moment to be
00:12:49.980 on TV. So to say like, Oh, she was in on it. It's like maybe, but like toxic mommy, you could
00:12:55.780 have cut the scene. You could have said like, that's enough drama for this scene. Like go watch
00:13:00.280 Kim get her like bikini wax, you know? Like we don't need, it's just so toxic. It's so toxic. 1.00
00:13:05.800 Like your daughter's going through something. They were young when they signed onto the show,
00:13:09.440 like that they were too young to be able to consent or know what they were signing up for.
00:13:13.160 I'm talking about Kendall and Kylie. Like, it's just not fair. They're like, Kylie was like nine,
00:13:17.720 right? That's the thing. And so that means their whole lives have been, they've been growing up in
00:13:22.480 the spotlight forever. That's so not fair. Like kids just can't consent to that. And obviously it's,
00:13:27.520 it's clearly screwed them up. I mean, Kendall seems to have come out the most normal,
00:13:31.860 but even she, like I was, I saw some article that was like the Kardashian. I mean, they put
00:13:36.520 her into the Kardashian like umbrella, but they were like the curse of the Kardashians. Like
00:13:40.200 they apparently, even she can't like keep a man for too long. Yeah. Or maybe they can't keep her. 1.00
00:13:46.360 I don't know what it is. Yeah. No, it's true. None of them. Yeah. She, I couldn't really name any of
00:13:50.300 her boyfriends really. So I, that's a good point. Yeah. I don't know. To be that rich. So I think
00:13:55.820 the point of this conversation is not really necessarily about Kris and the Kardashians per se. It's just
00:14:01.660 that like, I think a lot of times we talk about toxic masculinity and stuff like that, but toxic
00:14:06.420 motherhood, I think there's something to be said about it. Yeah. I mean, it goes back to the Oedipal
00:14:11.220 mother. Like it's a classic archetype of the mother who is so controlling and won't let her children
00:14:16.060 grow up because she needs them in her life and she ends up destroying them. Yeah. And I think a lot of
00:14:21.080 millennials suffer through this because I've seen a lot of like growing up a lot of my, not even my
00:14:26.620 friends, but just like my classmates and stuff, their parents, specifically their moms tried so hard to
00:14:30.900 stay young and cool that they were, they tried to be their child's friend. No, you know, like
00:14:35.540 like in mean girls. Yeah, exactly. And it's like, that is a side of toxic motherhood that I don't
00:14:40.160 think we see that much. I mean, Kris Jenner is a perfect example of that. I mean, like Khloe
00:14:45.040 Kardashian literally lives across the street from her and sees her every single day. She sees her mom
00:14:49.940 every single day. She's not like 90 and dying. It's just like, don't you have a life? Yeah. Like
00:14:55.980 you're a mom too. Anyway. Um, but yeah, like, I think like, it's just, it's something that I think
00:15:02.680 more people need to talk about. Um, and I think there are a lot of signs that a lot of people are
00:15:07.300 unaware of. Like maybe this isn't toxic to you, but it actually is. I don't know. You know what I mean?
00:15:12.900 Like, yeah. Do you have the sign? I have the sign. Do you want to read them? Yes. Okay. I want to
00:15:19.180 know. Do tell. Okay. Um, so some of the signs of a toxic mom that some people may not know. Uh,
00:15:27.660 so she always has to be right. She ignores your boundaries. She enables dependence. She oversimplifies 0.67
00:15:33.800 your problems, gets mad at you for being emotional, claims you are overreacting. Every conversation
00:15:39.040 leaves you feeling upset. She minimizes your achievements. She wants to be your best friend.
00:15:43.860 You're the one always apologizing. She is always the victim. She cries to get her way. She's super
00:15:49.020 critical. She lasted lashes out when she's upset. She wants you to fix her problems. She wants to
00:15:53.980 control you and your siblings and you have to walk on eggshells around her. Sounds like a nightmare. 0.99
00:15:58.780 Sounds like a nightmare. Yeah. But some of those things seem like they're not that big of a deal.
00:16:03.400 Like, Oh, my mom wants to be my BFF. What's wrong with that? Well, it's like, well, if you're too dependent
00:16:06.500 on your mom, you're not an independent. And we talked about this in terms of, uh, Lorelai and
00:16:11.080 Rory Gilmore. Yeah. Like, um, you know, we, I, I watched that episode of ours and we were like,
00:16:16.900 Lorelai is the worst mother. She's not the worst. I've been rewatching the show. It's not the worst,
00:16:20.700 worst mother, but there are that exact thing is that she wants to be Rory's best friend. And 0.96
00:16:24.820 it's at the detriment of Rory because a Rory couldn't go to university without having her mom sleep 1.00
00:16:29.900 over with her. Like that was embarrassing. Yeah. That's not cool. Come on. And then just the,
00:16:34.060 the lessons that she learned from her mother were not great in terms of relationship. So, um, you
00:16:39.300 have a mother is not a best friend. It's a mother. It's different. Yeah, definitely. And dog is your
00:16:43.840 best friend. Yeah. And I think a lot of times we see like people when they're in like relationships
00:16:47.540 and stuff, like they, instead of going to their partner, they go to their mom for advice. And I
00:16:52.140 actually think that like, that's really unhealthy. Yeah. Like I just think you need to, I, the Bible is
00:16:58.020 pretty clear about this man shall even father his mother and become one with his wife. I think the same
00:17:01.600 goes for women. Like you need to, of course, maintain a healthy relationship with your parents. 1.00
00:17:06.320 You can be friends with your mom. Like I'm friends with my parents, but it's like, there needs to be
00:17:10.060 a line. Like they don't need to know everything. No. Yeah. And you don't need to go to them with
00:17:13.660 everything. Yeah. Like, no, I've made that mistake in the past where I thought everything in my
00:17:17.480 relationship, I had to tell my mom and dad and they're like, Oh, you don't need to hear that. Oh,
00:17:20.800 he should do this. It's like, yeah, you guys are both divorced. Right. Like, I don't need to hear
00:17:24.440 your opinions on this matter. I should be talking to the person in which I'm in a relationship with
00:17:28.560 and resolving those issues through communication instead of like, and my parents aren't even
00:17:32.240 toxic. It's just like, it's not healthy to have your parent as your best friend. It's just simply
00:17:37.000 not. Yeah. I agree. Should we talk about, sorry, mom. She doesn't watch the show. Yeah. Well,
00:17:43.260 jokes on her. It's the best. It's the best. Should we move on to lighter topics? Yep. Well,
00:17:50.000 I just wanted to touch on another aspect. Like we don't have to talk about the article in total,
00:17:54.000 in totality. But another article that we did touch on was this. Um, it's also from Evie was
00:17:58.560 online mommy cultures can be toxic sometimes. Oh yes. And it's just like, we've all seen like,
00:18:02.900 you know, the term Facebook moms. And I didn't realize, like, I can't imagine being on one of
00:18:08.680 those groups and saying like, Oh, I, I like, I want to have a home birth or something like that.
00:18:13.660 And then women being like, apparently this is a thing where they'd be like, that's dangerous. 1.00
00:18:17.000 Like you're endangering your, your child and a lot of judgment and toxicity. So this article just
00:18:21.860 talks about like how to avoid that. And I thought it was interesting because so many of the things
00:18:25.680 that they say are actually just things to avoid in real life. It was like some of the art, some of
00:18:29.760 the tips that they had were like, don't be afraid to block somebody. Yeah. And they're talking about
00:18:33.880 in a mommy culture. It's like, that's a good lesson for anyone. Like in real life, when you have a toxic
00:18:38.340 friend in your world, you get rid of them. I've done that. It took me a long time to figure that out,
00:18:42.420 but it's like, Oh, they're my friend. It's like, you know what? They're toxic. They're,
00:18:45.240 they're the kind of person that is happy when I fail and they want, they, they don't want good.
00:18:50.260 They don't support you. Yeah. Cut them out of my life. And like, you can do that online. If
00:18:54.300 someone's harassing you online or not, like you just block them. It's not like we, especially in
00:19:00.500 the, you know, conservative world, we think it's such a, like a weak thing to do, but if someone's
00:19:04.200 harassing you, you wouldn't let them into your house. You don't need to your car. You can just 0.82
00:19:09.120 block them. No, it's so true. Um, should we maybe talk about then the pro abortion TikToker too?
00:19:14.900 Yes. Because there's that other, so toxic mommy culture. Um, I get Allie Best Stuckey, 1.00
00:19:19.920 claims that she coined this term. I don't know if that's true, but, um, it's basically when women 1.00
00:19:24.800 mock their kids for social media. And some people are like, Oh, it's just humor. It's, it's for fun.
00:19:32.040 It's lighthearted, but I actually are going to grow up and sue you. So enjoy that too. But I also think
00:19:36.180 don't, do you wonder if that creates like a sense of resentment in the mom that then grows and then
00:19:41.320 she becomes a toxic mom as the child grows up? Because I really think, and maybe it has something to do
00:19:45.680 with why abortion is so normal and okay in our society because moms are always talking about 1.00
00:19:50.580 how much they hate their kids, calling them like a-holes and stuff. And it's like, obviously kids
00:19:55.160 can be a lot. I mean, I don't have kids, but I see little kids screaming at church and stuff like
00:20:00.720 that. Like, I mean, goodness gracious, they're a lot, but you know, it's a privilege to be able to
00:20:05.520 have a baby. And I think that we should, they're a blessing. And I think we need to consider them that
00:20:10.120 way. And society just doesn't seem to want to, like there's such a weird attack on kids.
00:20:14.440 And there's also that, like, like you mentioned this weird trend of like shaming publicly,
00:20:18.760 shaming your child on the internet. And so we'll, I'll add this video in later, but there's this
00:20:24.660 pro abortion TikToker that tells her baby, like her newborn baby, she's beautiful baby. Yeah. Like 0.95
00:20:29.740 new, it's new, brand new. And she says, I could have killed you. She doesn't even say the word
00:20:34.660 aborted. She says, I could have killed you. I chose, I didn't, but I could have, and that's my choice.
00:20:39.940 It's like, lady, every single one of our moms could have aborted us. They didn't, they don't
00:20:44.480 need, you don't need to shove that in your child's face. Like, yeah, it's, it's evil. So weird. That
00:20:49.160 would be like God saying like, I could have killed you. Yeah. It's like, duh, you could have obviously
00:20:53.220 like, duh. It's so toxic. And it makes me feel really nervous for the kid growing up because
00:20:58.420 what if that mom doesn't drop it in infancy? Like maybe the kid is even picking up on those,
00:21:04.580 like those intentions without, because they're nonverbal at this. They're so young. It doesn't
00:21:09.640 understand words yet, but maybe it understands the feelings. And when it is verbal and it can
00:21:14.260 understand words, is the mom going to stop saying that? Yeah. What if what in the kid is bad? Is
00:21:17.780 she going to be like, you know, I could have aborted you. I could have killed you. Like 1.00
00:21:20.040 gross. Yeah. That is so gross. Well, especially because like, as you said, this baby can't speak
00:21:25.560 or really do anything. It just needs his mom for everything. Right. And like kids can't defend
00:21:30.620 themselves. No. And in any other part of society, if you, if you're attacking something that can't
00:21:36.520 defend itself, you're bullying it. Like imagine, like imagine if you replaced baby with another
00:21:42.620 type of vulnerable person, like everyone would be like, you can't say that. You can't do that.
00:21:46.720 Or like a kitten. Yeah. Like a little kitten. Even a freaking animal. Peeta would be all over
00:21:50.320 your butt. It's so true. But it's okay to say that to your child, your newborn child. A human
00:21:54.460 literally depends on you for every single thing. And you did not ask to be brought into this world,
00:21:59.580 by the way. No. So you're already holding it over their head. Like talk about toxic. Yeah.
00:22:03.300 Gross. Toxic already. Gross. Anyway. So anyways, that was fun. That was really fun. Don't be toxic.
00:22:08.860 Yeah. Don't be toxic. And Kris Jenner. Yeah. Looking at you. Yeah. Cut the cord from your kids. Okay.
00:22:14.920 All right. Porn. Oh, man. Okay. This article, also from Evie, is called Why Are So Many Serial
00:22:24.680 Killers Porn Addicts? And I kind of did a little shallow dive into this topic when we were talking about
00:22:30.900 the shooting that took place in Texas because I wanted to, I didn't, I don't know if there actually
00:22:36.120 was the connection. I was just curious because it seems like a thing. And I found, I told you this
00:22:40.940 already, like I found it so hard to find connections. Everywhere I looked, it was like, well, porn can
00:22:46.480 actually be really good for you. And I was like, I don't think I'm looking in the right places. So
00:22:50.500 reality check, it's not. Yeah. It's not. It's not. Yeah. And I guess it's, so I found this article
00:22:59.200 called, it's by the Reward Foundation, which is basically an educational charity that looks at the
00:23:05.000 science behind sex and love relationships. And what do they know? What do they know? So basically,
00:23:11.280 there are over 85 studies that link poor mental and emotional health to porn use. These effects range
00:23:16.440 from brain fog and social anxiety through to depression, negative body image and flashbacks,
00:23:21.100 eating disorders. And basically porn just really has a big impact on idealized notions of body image.
00:23:29.160 It's kind of interesting because so much of secular society is like, just like porn's fine. Yeah. It's
00:23:34.360 like a very normal thing. It's a very normal thing. And I think that's kind of scary in a lot of ways,
00:23:41.300 especially because Ted Bundy, who is like one of the most famous serial killers ever admitted that
00:23:46.380 that was something he was addicted to. And then guess what? He murdered. Yeah. I wrote down
00:23:51.060 his quote. He, it was before, was he executed? Yeah. Okay. So it was a couple, it was before he
00:23:56.940 was executed. He was speaking very candidly. This is his quote. He said, I've lived in prison a long
00:24:02.400 time now, and I've met a lot of men who were motivated to commit violence just like me. And
00:24:05.880 without exception, every one of them was deeply influenced and consumed by an addiction to pornography.
00:24:11.200 Gross. Yeah. And it kind of makes sense that watching a lot of porn would like desensitize you
00:24:18.960 to other acts of violence because like, it's like doing drugs. I liken it to doing drugs because, okay,
00:24:24.880 you, your tolerance builds over time. And then in order to get that high, you need to keep doing
00:24:30.440 harder drugs or more doses. And I think it's the same with porn. Like at first you're like, oh, I'm just
00:24:34.320 going to watch porn. And then you get like mommy, daddy, nice sex. And then, right. And then you
00:24:39.580 get desensitized and you're like, I need it to be more violent or whatever. And that's another thing.
00:24:45.420 It's like, sorry. No, keep going. Um, the, the porn that people are watching now is so disgusting.
00:24:51.980 Like I, like there's trends that are like brother, like step sister, step dad, like it's that's sick.
00:25:00.400 And like, and like abuse on women. And it's so people are so desensitized to it that they don't
00:25:05.760 actually realize how frigged up it is and how messed up it's making people in their own brains.
00:25:10.740 And there's also like, that's one. So it's like, okay, we're, we're producing little serial killers,
00:25:15.280 maybe possibly one section. And then there's the other section where it's like, what is it doing
00:25:18.520 to young women? Yeah. When they have, when men, young men have the expectations of all women being 0.91
00:25:24.060 like porn stars, which are willing to do things that regular women are not willing to do. 1.00
00:25:29.880 And then we'll call them prudes and the women will feel like young kids are doing, I'm not
00:25:34.740 going to get graphic, but they're doing more stuff than we did in our generation. Like
00:25:40.200 kids in high school are doing grosser, weirder stuff than ever. And it's getting younger and
00:25:44.780 younger and they're experimenting with more stuff. And I think it's because of porn.
00:25:49.880 Yeah, absolutely. Way out of control.
00:25:52.120 Well, and it's completely degrading for women. First of all, like it just, it is like, I'm sorry.
00:25:56.680 There's no, it's, it will never be an empowering industry for women because first of all, a couple 1.00
00:26:02.040 things. One, the person you could be watching could be underage and you just don't know it.
00:26:05.620 That's a huge problem. It's a huge problem. Number two, they could be a victim of human
00:26:09.360 trafficking and you're watching a slave. Yes. So I just, and this, and by watching porn and
00:26:14.320 continuing to watch it, you are feeding into that industry, which is enabling human trafficking
00:26:19.700 and child pornography. Like you are feeding into that. So I just think that, I just think it's
00:26:24.180 disgusting and I, I just, it just makes me sick. There's a woman on Twitter who is, she 1.00
00:26:30.340 was herself a victim of human trafficking. Her name's Eliza Blue and I follow her on Twitter
00:26:33.940 and I'll put her tweets up here. She talks nonstop. It's all she talks about, about mostly
00:26:39.920 Pornhub and how many people on Pornhub are young people who are trafficked and Pornhub
00:26:44.160 has no responsibility. They'll take it down if it's proven, but like there's no responsibility
00:26:47.900 to verify that these girls are above 18 and are willing partners or being paid or whatever
00:26:52.840 needs to take place legally to make it legal. So you, like Nat just said, you could be watching
00:26:57.880 porn and you could be watching a victim of sexual, like sex trafficking and not even knowing
00:27:03.640 it. And you are now a part of a sex, like you're, you're encouraging, you're propagating 0.77
00:27:08.120 this disgusting, horrifying, tragic thing that is so rampant in society. It's super sad.
00:27:13.880 No, absolutely. Um, and according to the national center on sexual exploitation, pornography fosters
00:27:20.420 aggression by normalizing and depicting verbal and physical violence as enjoyable. So aggressive
00:27:24.860 acts against women and porn occur at roughly eight in, in 87% of the scenes. That's a huge
00:27:30.260 majority. That's a red, that's a red flag. That's a red flag.
00:27:34.460 Hello. Okay. Um, and obviously like you mentioned, it kind of, it creates unreachable standards for
00:27:40.160 women, women, women don't look like that and women don't enjoy sex like that. And I think like, 1.00
00:27:46.440 I mean, there's also research that research that shows consuming porn, like changes the structure
00:27:50.260 of your brain and it just, it D um, desensitizes us. Like it just, I mean, guys, like this is a
00:27:56.840 serious thing and our society is pushing it on people. I mean, what is the age that young people 0.58
00:28:01.220 are exposed to porn? Like 11 or something, I think is the age that's really young. You're like
00:28:05.780 prepubescent. That's horrifying. Like that, you gotta have some safety, safety parameters on your
00:28:10.720 kids' tablets. Absolutely. And I think like another side of this is like sex is such an intimate and
00:28:16.680 private thing. And I don't think anyone should be around, well, and you're having sex. So why are 0.61
00:28:21.520 you thinking it's okay to watch someone else have sex, whether they're paid to do it or not? Um,
00:28:26.100 I just think it's really gross. Yeah. And it's, and like I've mentioned, it's, it's different than
00:28:31.360 the porn of the eighties. Right. Like it's not Playboy magazine. No, no, it's not soft. Like
00:28:37.060 again, it's still bad, but it's not like full bush, soft core. Like it's, it's people are doing
00:28:42.140 gross things and degrading women and women are acting like they are enjoying it. And then that 1.00
00:28:48.020 is now how men think women want to be treated. And it will rewire people's brains and it will make 0.99
00:28:53.620 women do things that they don't want to do. And it's plus it's tragic. Like if you're in a 0.99
00:28:58.440 relationship, I would, I can think it's, you're being unfaithful. Like you're cheating. If you're, 0.91
00:29:03.540 if you're tiptoeing behind your spouse's back and you're watching other people get freaky, like
00:29:08.140 I just think that you're cheating on them, frankly. I don't know if that's cheating. Like,
00:29:12.280 I think it's gross. I think it is because sex, like the Bible is really clear about 0.94
00:29:17.000 sexual immorality. Maybe in a biblical sense it's cheating. I think most people would probably say
00:29:20.840 it's not, but again, most people. But what if your wife didn't know about it? Yeah. And you were doing
00:29:24.500 that behind her back. Like I, you know, especially, I don't know. It's gross. You shouldn't do it.
00:29:28.440 Because it's also an, it's addictive and it, which means it's therefore destructive and we're not
00:29:32.960 supposed to give into temptation as Christians. Right. Absolutely. And, and yes, our pastor has
00:29:37.660 mentioned that. Um, and also if you're in a marriage and you're watching porn behind your
00:29:42.640 wife's back or your husband's back, um, you're not going to be intimate with your partner in the
00:29:47.560 same way and willing to the same extent that you should be. And you're going to have these,
00:29:51.520 like I've mentioned expectations, or you're not going to be interested in it at all because you've
00:29:56.640 already serviced yourself. Yeah, no, it's true. Um, there's a study, a 2008 study of sexuality
00:30:03.720 in France, uh, which found that 20% of men 18 to 24 had no interest in sex or sexual activity
00:30:10.400 after watching porn. Yeah. Like that's teenagers. Like, isn't that when you're usually your most
00:30:16.500 like primal about sex? Like that's scary. And it's kind of like, sorry. No, I was just going to say
00:30:21.240 it can also cause erectile dysfunction. And as you mentioned, can influence the physical power
00:30:26.160 dynamics in a sexual relationship. So it reminds me of how I think we've mentioned, I mean, it
00:30:31.740 reminds me of MGTOW. Like those men are going their own way and they don't want anything to do
00:30:36.860 with women, but I guarantee they're watching pornography. Yeah. And then B, it reminds me of 0.59
00:30:40.360 how men don't want to get married because I had this theory that was like, well, of course,
00:30:44.320 because they have Uber Eats and pornography. Yeah. Like what do they, like, what incentive do you
00:30:49.080 have? Like for, and obviously not all women cook and yada yada, but like in a traditional sense,
00:30:54.240 like a woman is going to care for her family and she's going to care for the home. And if you have 0.99
00:31:00.360 Uber Eats and pornography, you literally don't really need a girl. That's true. And maybe society's 1.00
00:31:06.760 been pushing this on us on purpose, almost like, um, well, when Bill Gates talks about how we have
00:31:13.140 too high of a population, we need to decrease the population. It's almost a red flag. It's almost
00:31:19.340 as if every facet of secular society is doing everything they can to make sure that men and
00:31:25.120 women aren't getting married because they know that that is the bedrock of a successful and 1.00
00:31:30.040 blossoming society. And they don't want society to blossom because they want us to own nothing and
00:31:33.740 be happy y'all. Yikes. They want us to consume media and consume online goods and consume Uber Eats
00:31:41.420 and pornography and just stay in our little and be fat and sad. And then we'll depend on the 0.81
00:31:46.880 government because we're sick from all the food that we're eating. We have diabetes and we're
00:31:50.180 depressed. So we're on no vitamin D and yeah. Yeah. It's terrifying. Right. So things are, I think
00:31:56.380 the, the point of this conversation too, is not necessarily to condemn people. I think there's
00:32:00.800 condemn, I think there's, I think there's grace for you. If you know, if you're suffering from
00:32:05.740 a porn addiction, there is people want to help you. Um, I would just say like, just try stopping.
00:32:12.200 Yeah. And then, you know, see how that goes. Repent too. Maybe. Um, yeah. Pick up another hobby.
00:32:19.180 Pick up another hobby. But I think just as a rule of thumb, when it comes to anything that society
00:32:24.380 deems is okay, especially when it comes to like sexual immoralities. I mean, look at all the crazy
00:32:30.480 stuff we're seeing at the pride parades these days, like society wants us to think all this
00:32:34.260 is okay. Yeah. It's okay to shake your wiener in front of eight year olds in a parade, you know, 0.85
00:32:38.360 like as a rule of thumb, anything that society is pushing on you, just say no. Yeah. You should
00:32:43.060 definitely question it. Yeah. Strongly. You know, like just sit with it. Yeah. You know,
00:32:48.280 look at it objectively. And just think about it. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think so. That's all I have to say.
00:32:55.340 I think. Really? Yeah. I could probably talk for like eight more hours, but is there any,
00:32:59.080 is there any final thoughts before we round out the show?
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