Miss Understood No. 22 — Victoria's Secret Is Out
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Summary
Nat and Kat discuss the news of Shawn Mendes postponing his tour, Bette Midler being transphobic, and Victoria's Secret starting a skincare line. They also discuss the fact that Bette's net worth is less than $40 million.
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Hello and welcome to Misunderstood, the show for all you culturally and politically misunderstood
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ladies or gents. We're your hosts. I'm Kat. And I'm Nat. And today we're going to be
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talking about a couple of things ranging from Bette Midler. That girl's transphobic. Also,
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Victoria's Secret. Have you heard? It's out. And then we're going to finalize the show with a bit
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of health talk because you know us, we love a vegetable. But first, we're going to start things
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off with our patented culture shock moment of the week. Take it away, Kat. This is a doozer.
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Okay. Okay, guys. I'm sure you've heard. Shawn Mendes announced that he will be postponing the
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next three weeks of his current tour due to being overwhelmed with touring again.
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So Kat. Yes, Nat. Was he touring much during the global pandemic?
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No, Nat. I believe he had over two years off. Right. Like the rest of the celebrities that
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could still get rich. So I guess like, yeah, being rich and doing nothing is exhausting.
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It sounds horrible. It sounds like so terrible. I feel like these three weeks are really gonna,
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like, he wasn't okay. And now he's gonna be okay. He just needs three more weeks to slow the
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mental health issues. If I was his agent, I'd be like,
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like, go to work. I'd be like, go to work. Go to work. My family depends on you to work,
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Shawn. And it's not only that. If you and I were having any sort of, you know, mental health issues,
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we'd be shot. We would, I don't know about that, maybe. But we would have to come to work because
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that's what adults do. And of course, there are circumstances in which maybe you just really
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need a day. And I respect that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you are letting your fans down and
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you're a grown ass man. Go do your job. Yeah. It reminds me of, because in the, in his statement,
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he mentions that he's been touring since he was 15. And I'm like, you know, who's been touring since
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they were like 15, 16 years old and never takes time off? Taylor Swift. It's true. You know why?
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Because she's not a Gen Z-er. Yeah, it's true. She's a millennial. And she knows, like, they'll
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call us lazy, but it's like, we hustle. We hustle. There's something about Gen Z-ers that are like,
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I can't even. And they're just like, they're anxiety. And one of my notes is that if D-Day happened
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today, it wouldn't. Just wouldn't. They'd be like, I can't. Yeah. No, it's so true. And one of the
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things you... Germans are scary. One of the things you said to me when we were kind of tweeting
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about this, we chat off, off camera. Yeah. Occasionally. Like, you wouldn't be so overwhelmed
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if you had God. Like, you really wouldn't be because the Bible says you cast your burdens
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on the Lord. His yoke is easy, but his burden's light. Yoke. You know? So, uh, your life might
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be a little better, Sean, if you just kind of surrendered how you were feeling to God because
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you can do all things through him. Yeah. That's such a good point I made. Yeah. That's kind
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of her point. And I was listening to Tim Dillon this morning. He talked about it, I think,
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Thursday or whenever it happened. And he mentioned that, you know, he makes a lot of jokes, but
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in there are always nuggets of truth. And his take was like, well, you're, I think he's
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like 23 years old. His net worth is about $40 million. It's like, where do you go from
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there? Like, life is all about striving. And you made this point, which was excellent, which
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is like, sometimes we get down on ourselves or being like, well, I'm not in a place where I want
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to be. Exactly. I'm not where I want to be yet, but it's like, okay, but then if I was
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23 and a 40, had $40 million net worth, maybe I would be depressed because like, okay, well,
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what now? Do I become a drug addict or do I fizzle out? Like, do we start a skincare line?
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Yeah. Well, that's what you should be doing. That's what you should be doing, Sean. Yeah.
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Okay. At least be productive. Yeah. Come on. All right. Let's move on. So, uh, guys,
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the best way to fight for women's rights is to take your top off. Yeah. It works.
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The bisexual model. Cara Delevingne goes topless and says, it's all of our jobs to fight for women's
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and trans rights. I didn't know it was all of our jobs. Now hear me out. I think she just might
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want to look at boobies. Ooh. I know. It's a hot take. Her own though? Yeah. She's a narcissist too.
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Yes. Um, it's just funny because, um, near the end of this article, they make a note that she's
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promoting a new show she's in. So I was like, okay, so a model takes her top off to promote
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a show she's in. That's empowering. And they're like, it's empowering, you guys. It's so empowering,
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yeah. This is certainly not to stay relevant because, you know, she is 29 years old. Oh,
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she's getting old. So the modeling industry is going to discard her faster than a set of pasties
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and it's pretty much over for her. It's over, Cara. It's over, Cara. So she's like, take your tops
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off. Yeah. It's, it's funny too when these celebrities though, they care so much about human rights
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when it's trendy, but where were you when unvaccinated people were being vilified? Where
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were you? What about abortion? I mean, those are little humans too, as science has told us. So
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it's just, it's funny that they pick and choose because as you said, they're just trying to stay
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relevant and get a job, I guess the next onto the next job. Yeah. I don't know. And it's also like
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you take your top off, do whatever you want, Cara, but don't say it's my job to take. It's literally
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not. No, I'm busy that day. Yeah. Um, forever. So you do you, but like also stop telling
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women how to fight for women's rights. Like we fight for women's rights every time. Look
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at all the pink. Yeah. We're doing it all the time and we're keeping our tops on and
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that's our choice. Yeah. Yep. And that's okay. Um, we are pro choice about taking off your
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clothes. Yes. Sort of. Kind of. Yeah. Um, shall we move on to the next one here? Bette Midler
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invokes trans argument to speak on abortion and women's rights. Yeah. So she took to Twitter.
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Uh, I guess we should just read the, read the tweet. Let's just read the tweet. All right.
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So women of the world, we are being stripped of our rights over our bodies, our lives, and
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even our name. They don't call us women anymore. They call us birthing people or menstruators
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and even people with vaginas. Don't let them erase you. Every human on earth owes you. That
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last part kind of weakens it for me. Nobody owes you, but, but otherwise it's a good, it's
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a good twirt. Yeah. It's a good twirt. And it's funny coming from Bette Midler, um, because
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she is just so woke all the time and it, and it really highlights the point that we've
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made and all, all sorts of people make, which is like, you can be in the, in the cool guy
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zone, cool people zone, woke leftism until you say one thing that they don't like. And
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now you're a turf and it's over for you and you have to apologize. And it's like, you are
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never safe. They, the line keeps moving further and further left and it doesn't matter how outspoken
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you are. And like all the issues you say one wrong thing and you're done. And that's what happened.
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And it's funny because like, she's very passionate about the pro choice side and she was pretty
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outspoken about Roe v. Wade and stuff. And that's kind of where this sort of stemmed from this tweet,
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but it's funny because the same people who are on the pro choice or pro abortion side, some of them
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are typically also pro trans rights. And it's like, can't you see, like, can't you see that you're,
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you should connect those dots. Like, like this, these are the same people you're on their side.
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Like maybe, maybe you should take a look at yourself there, bet.
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And this came on the heels of another famous woman, Macy Gray, who made a statement on Piers
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Morgan's show, Uncensored, her statement. And it's, this is taken just a clip of like,
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this is just a bit of the statement. So, I mean, we watched the clip on the live stream the other day,
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maybe I'll post it in there. But basically she, she says before saying this is my point.
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should have every right that anyone else does, and that she will refer to them however she wants
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because she, she respects them. However, then she says, just because you go and change your parts,
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that doesn't make you a woman. So people only ever concentrate on that line. Yeah.
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That's what you call, you know, a woman who is trying to stand up for women's rights is a TERF.
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Um, which as we've mentioned, but maybe we should mention again, is a trans exclusionary
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radical feminist, which is supposed to be an insult, means nothing anymore.
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It doesn't mean anything. It just means you don't agree with them.
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Yeah. So, so Macy Gray and Bette Midler, two like pretty famous women, both are kind of, uh,
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standing up for women and then getting called terrible names that mean nothing.
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They're getting threatened. Like they're getting threatened. And yeah, it's, it's just crazy that
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so many people, uh, responded to this. Like it's like with such negativity, like they're like,
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you can have a uterus and, I mean, not have a uterus and be a woman and all these kinds of things.
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And it's like, birthing people is like a language we need to use. And it's like,
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don't you people see that you are racing, erasing yourself? Like when, like, what's it going to take
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for you to realize that they're after you ladies? Like they're, you are not going to,
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you're going to be null and void soon. Like we don't need you. And just days after Macy Gray made
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her statement because she, again, she has an album coming out. So she was promoting the album.
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And so in an effort to redeem herself, she apologized. She basically walked the whole thing back.
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Um, and the interview, I don't know what show it was, but the interviewer was
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so annoying about it. She's like, so do you still believe that statements? Like that was five days ago.
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I'm pretty sure she changed their state. Whatever. Yeah. But anyway, she doesn't,
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she's changed her mind in five days. Um, and she, well, yeah, publicly. Yeah, of course.
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But she said, uh, being a woman is a vibe. If you feel in your heart, that's what you are. Then
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that's what you are, regardless of what anybody says. It's like, that's literally the opposite
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of what you said five days ago. And she looked like she wanted to crap herself as she said it.
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Like you could tell that she doesn't mean it. And the thing is, it won't be enough for them
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because, because she's already done for. Well, exactly. And progressivism is a religion. Like
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it's just, they have a strict set of laws and commandments that they must be abided by.
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But guess what? They'll keep shifting the goalposts, as you already said. It's worse. Yeah. It's
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worse because in, in a religion, you can re you can repent. Yeah. And you can absolve yourself of
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your sins and try to change. Yeah. Yeah. But you can't do that. Yeah. There's no grace. There's no
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grace. No grace. Yeah. And of course, you know, JK Rowling had to jump in and show her support for
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Bette and Macy. Um, all she really did was retweet someone who said, uh, Bette Midler and Macy Gray
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aren't receiving pushback because they said something hateful or inaccurate. They're being
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demonized as heretics for rejecting the dogmas of a new religion. This is how blasphemy law works
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in the digital era. That's all she did was retweet. And then people started hating on her. Well,
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it's not started. They just continued. Yeah. But like, well, continued exactly. Yeah. It's just,
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you know, again, like three strong women just saying basic stuff, supporting women, not an,
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and, and scientific, scientific factually correct things and their TERFs and they're horrible.
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And they deserve to be threatened apparently. Yeah. And, um, so there's one more article on this
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topic, which is from the New York post. Um, Bette Midler responds to backlash over trans inclusive
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language, erasing women. But I think, so the funniest part about this, and it's right in the
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title here, it says over trans inclusive language, erasing women. So they admitted it. Well, yeah,
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it's like they, um, okay, hold on. Okay. So they're saying in the article, it says Midler tweeted,
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this is a quote from the article. Midler tweeted about the trans community and language to describe
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them. Nope. Nope. She literally never, the word trans is nowhere in her statement. No,
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we just read the statement. We just read the statement. It's literally just women. So this
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is once again, an example of, of something that should be about women. And now it's about men
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or trans people, whatever you want to call them. But, but they're not trying to erase us. No. So
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literally when you say we're trying to erase trans people, it's like, nope, we're taught,
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like we're talking about women saying it's okay to use the word woman, mother. These are okay words,
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but they're like, it's, I wrote that it's, um, it's like saying, oh, where can I get a good beef
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burger in Toronto? And then being like horrible woman makes anti vegan statement.
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Like, no, I'm literally, no, I just want a burger. I just want a burger. I just want to be able to
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say the word woman. It has nothing to do with you not saying trans. You, you use your trans inclusive
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language. I'm not going to stop you. I'm not going to police your language. All we're saying is don't
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police ours, but it's like, that's not okay. And Bette Midler should know that. Yeah. That it's not
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okay. Cause she does it all the time. Yeah. She should know that it's not okay to, to just use your own
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language and be comfortable with your own moral. It's not okay. You have to go with what the small minority of
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people dictate. It's okay. And if you don't, you're a turf. It's mob rule. It's mob rule. But
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hopefully the mob just continues doing what they're doing because these crazy progressives
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like Bette Midler, they're going to eventually realize that y'all are crazy and they're going
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to shift to become maybe a little more moderate, maybe a little more center, right? And we'll welcome
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them. So keep doing what you're doing. We've mentioned this before. You keep canceling people.
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We'll take them. Yeah. And we'll be gracious. We'll be gracious. Yeah. And you know what?
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JK Rowling, I think she's, I think she's on the way out pretty soon. So maybe we should have a bet.
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No, no gambling here. Not a Bette Midler though. But then of course, another old fart had to add
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her, add her some more noise to the conversation. So Linda Carter, whoever the hell that is,
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urges Wonder Woman like a billion years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Urges people to focus on the real
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war on women and leave trans women alone. Sorry. Do you know who Leah Thomas is, Linda Carter? Do you
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know who she is? I thought you were Wonder Woman. Yeah. So her tweet said, I cannot think of anything
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that helps women's rights less than pinning the blame on trans women. Again, nope. They face so much
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violence and scrutiny as is. Leave them alone and focus on the real war on women. It's happening in the
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courts and legislatures around the country. So we know that she's referring to Roe v. Wade,
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which you know what? If that's your battleground again, sure. Go fight it. That's all new. Like
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that's okay. But it's like being, it's so one, one sided to think and single minded to think that
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there's only one battle being fought here. And you have to be passionate about her battle. Yeah,
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exactly. Like think about Germany during World War II. There was the West front and the East front.
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Like it's not like they're like, forget about the communists. Like forget about the Reds. Just
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focus on the Brits and the Americans. Like that would, they would have ended a lot faster for them
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had they done that. Maybe it would have been good for us, really. But, but we're allowed to fight
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battles on two fronts. And Linda Carter, you have your battle. You go and take your top off and stand
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in front of the Supreme Court and yell and do whatever you want. That's okay. Even though like
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you're getting a little old to do that, lady. Like maybe don't, but you do what you want to do.
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It's just, it's just these models. Models need to stop participating in activism. I mean,
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they are called models. Yeah. So just take your clothes off and get photographed. Like
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that's all we really want from you. No one asked you to model like how we should live. You're
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not a model citizen. Yeah, no. You just, you know, you, you wear the shirt or not. You weigh zero
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pounds. But it's funny because she's like, I cannot think of anything that helps women's
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rights less. It's like, I can. Yeah. Putting intact males in women's spaces like prisons. That's
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the thing though. That hurts. Exactly. Like it's just, it's insane. Like that's, that's literal
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violence. That's literal violence against women. And you don't care because what you want to seem
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like you still got it, Linda. Yeah. It's just to say relevant. Like you mentioned. It's, it's
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desperate. And I, I don't like it. Speaking of desperate. Yeah. Chelsea Handler. Yeah. Then women
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take it too far. Yeah. We haven't talked about Chelsea Handler. I really dislike this woman. No,
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there's nothing likable about her. There's nothing likable about her. Like I've, I used
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to do standup comedy and when I was a female standup comic, I watched a lot of comedy, including
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female. And I watched hers and I was like, this is awful. It was just so awful. She sucks.
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She stinks. She's horrible. Um, and she, so the article is Chelsea Handler's late night takeover
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and quote, white men's opinions are irrelevant. My first thought was what if they are a biological
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white male, but they identify as a woman? Yeah. No, no. Yeah. That's so in her quote,
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she says, there's really nobody that can experience what it's like to be a woman other than one
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of us. Turf. Turf. Why is the mom coming after her? Is it because she did that like crazy?
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Because then she follows up by saying white men's opinions are irrelevant. Right. So people,
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they're like, they, they only post the second part on the article. No one reads it. No one
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watches her show. No. She was just, she was filling in for whatever, whoever. But, um,
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it's like, Oh my God, you're such a turf. How dare you say no one can experience what it's
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like to be a woman other than a woman. You should be canceled immediately. Yeah. It's
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actually based. It is. Yeah. It's pretty based, Chels. My last note is she is a dirt bag.
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Okay. Yeah. That's fair. That's a personal opinion. Yeah. That's not a fact. No, it's allegedly
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a dirt bag. No, I'm just kidding. But yeah, I do agree with her though. Like I do think that
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there's, there should be more space for women in media, specifically talk shows and stuff like
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that. I'm not against that. I just don't want you to do it. Yeah. Because you're unlikable
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and horrible. Yeah. Like I think there are so many other women who I would rather watch do it.
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Like us. Exactly. Or others. Or others even. And like, I think the, the problem I have too,
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and maybe this is why there aren't as many women in this space is because they're like,
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they get so woke. Like they're just so freaking woke. And it's like, you're pissing off all the
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men. And then you're pissing off if you're doing an American talk show. So many like American women
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who are just like moms who just want to like chill at night and you're alienating them. And it's like,
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I don't know. Have we done this to ourselves? Chels? Maybe. Yeah. Is it her fault?
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It's probably Chelsea's. It's the men's fault. I don't know. I feel like it's Chelsea's fault.
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I feel like it's every issue that women face in 2022 is because of Chelsea and her weird apology
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tour show. Yeah. So why did she get canceled? She did like this show on Netflix where she went
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and she apologized to like visible minorities for being white. Oh, okay. Well, shocking. I hadn't
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heard of it because you love her so much. I'm such a big fan. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, uh, so, uh,
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secret's out. Victoria's secret's out. Oh my God. So. And it's not a sexy one. It's not sexy,
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of course, because Epstein is involved and whenever he's involved, there ain't nothing nice
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about it. But, uh, so there's a documentary coming out that exposes the naked truth behind
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the lingerie brand. But actually there's been quite a few articles that have already done a bit of a deep
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dive into this, uh, documentary. I haven't seen it. It's not out yet. July 14th, it comes out. Um, so
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let us know your thoughts, but it's so unsurprising that a lingerie company founded by
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men has corruption. Like, are we shocked? Of course. Like not only that, but like so many of
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their products are cheap and like over sexualized. They're not made for women. Yeah, definitely. And
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you can tell by the kind of models that they use as well. Um, yeah, it's pretty interesting.
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Apparently it's a hellish place to work. A hellish place. Well, the diet in itself.
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Yeah. Well, I, that sounds like hell as well. So there's an op-ed or like an investigative
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kind of article called the culture of misogyny inside Victoria's secret. And apparently Epstein
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would, was kind of like hanging around and he would pretend to be like a model agent. And then
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he'd like lure these girls. Yeah. Like a scout. And then he'd lure girls and then he'd like
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assault them and stuff. Young ones. Yeah. And HR didn't care. HR doesn't care about the behavior
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of the, um, the founder. And it doesn't even work for them. Yeah. At all. Like there's
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no actual tie, like in terms of there being an employment contract or anything. Yeah. But
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there's like all these ties, like unofficial ties. Yeah, exactly. And it's just, it makes
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you wonder like who else is involved in, in the Epstein circle. I think it's much bigger
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than we think. Like, I think there's a lot of. No. Yeah. Like I just, it's so creepy
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though. It's super creepy. Um, I want to read a quote from this Atlantic article. Yeah.
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Um, so Jeffrey Epstein reportedly told women and young girls that he was a modeling scout
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for Victoria's Secret. The financier never worked for the lingerie retailer or even technically
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for its parent company, L Brands. But he had a close relationship with the head of L Brands,
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Les Wexner, assuming an unusual degree of control over Wexner's assets and personal life, according
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to reporting to the New York Times. And then there's two accounts here that are highly disturbing.
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Um, one is according to Alicia Arden, a model and actress, this was Epstein's
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ruse when he lured her to Santa Monica, to a Santa Monica hotel room and assaulted her
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in 1997. Grace. And then there's another one here. When Maria Farmer, who worked the door
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at Epstein's New York mansion, asked why so many young girls were going in and out of
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his home. She says she was told that they were auditioning to be models for the lingerie
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brand. Some of them, she told the New Yorker, were wearing school uniforms. Now, were those
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costumes maybe? I don't know. Because guys like that, which is already problematic, but
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or were the actual school uniforms? Well, that's just wonderful. Yeah, and knowing that it's
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Epstein. Yeah. Yeah. You guys do the math yourself. Yeah. And basically the whole point
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of this brand was to create a place where men could buy sexual garments for women. It had
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nothing to do with empowering women, though their advertising campaigns tried to sell it
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to us. And so many women bought into this. And it's just, it's like, why are we buying
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into lies that men are telling us? Like, why do we do it? It's not empowering. Like, we're
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we're losing the battle when it comes to female empowerment. If that's the case, we're like
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that sexy because this man told me and I'm going to do it because men are telling me to.
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It's so gross. I will say, though, I have bought underwear from them and I do enjoy some
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of it. Like some of it, I'm like, I like that. That looks nice to me. Yeah. I think
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it's personal preference. Yeah, of course. But like, it's never, it's never really about
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like, and it's not supposed to be comfortable. Like, it's not like, like there's other brands
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if you want to wear comfortable, well-supporting garments. Like that's, you don't shop at Victoria's
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Secret. But it's, it's just like, you can, you can have a sexy lingerie brand without raping
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young girls. I think that was. That's, I think, the takeaway here. Yeah. Yeah. I think just
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the premise though, in which the company was founded is just kind of icky. It makes
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me feel icky just because it's like, obviously belittling and over-sexualizing women and sometimes
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young women. And what, one of the things we were kind of talking about offline is like,
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where the hell are all the models who walked in the Victoria's Secret fashion show? Why
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didn't none of them really come out? I know Bella Hadid kind of did because she was in a 2018
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fitting. Uh, she was being measured for underwear that would meet broadcast standards. And Mr.
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Razek, who, uh, was, uh, what was he? Mr. Razek. He's one of the executives or something. Anyway,
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he, um, he sat on a couch watching her get fitted. And then he said, forget the panties.
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What are you going to wear instead? I don't know. On live TV. I'm not too sure that that's allowed.
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Why would a man have to be in the room for that? That is so gross. Well, exactly. It's so gross
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and it's so inappropriate. And so I guess she took a break from working with the company, but
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because they promised to change or whatever, they're trying to change. And I, that they're
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going in a whole new direction, I guess. Yeah. Have you seen some of the new stuff though? It's like,
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it's like nude for all sizes. It's like, you know what? And all genders. Yeah. All genders. It's
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like, it's just ugly, but just like, okay, whatever. People need underwear. Yeah. People need underwear.
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It was just like, it doesn't erase your past sins. Right. Just making giant underwear.
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Well, that's my point. And now she's going to start working with them again. And it's
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like, don't you remember a girl? Like, and why weren't you speaking out about this more
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publicly? Like, I just think it's so gross. It's because of the money. Follow the money,
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honey. Yeah. Well, it's just, and we've mentioned this too. It's like, where were all the actors
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and directors and producers who were calling out Jeffrey, sorry, not Jeffrey, I've seen
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Harvey Weinstein for the 20, 30 years that he was producing movies. Like, hello, where
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were you guys? But now you're all going to come out and be like, oh, it's just awful. It's
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just awful. Isn't it? It's like, well, you're the one who showed your butt to him. Like you
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should have, you should have spoken out. It's so true. And obviously like, it's probably
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very intimidating, but like we're, we're a couple of gals who like to swim upstream. And
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I just don't think, like, I just don't really think there's an excuse because when you don't
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speak out because you're scared, you're going to eventually hurt someone else. Someone else is
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going to be implicated later. Think about the girls that are beneath you that have not yet made
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it to your echelon yet. Exactly. They are going to have to do that same thing that is making you
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uncomfortable, but you don't care. And it's your fault because you didn't stop it or you didn't
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tell people about it. And I mean, in some instances at this Victoria's Secret company, people did try to
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talk to HR and they were basically just completely ignored and, um, which is horrible. And that's a
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whole nother problem, but yeah, that's the problem. Like when you speak out, you and nothing happens,
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you can get in trouble, but it's like, we, if enough people do this, like we have to take down
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these monsters and we have to, and talk about women's empowerment, taking your top off to promote
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your show, Cara is not women's empowerment. No, it's not. And I think together to take down these
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helpful men is women's empowerment. Exactly. Like go get them girls. And I think another thing
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this scandal kind of speaks to is just how like, we think that this, this world, all these Hollywood
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celebrities and these models, it's so glamorous and it's so chic, but it's so depraved. Like it's
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just filled with a bunch of perverts. Yeah. Like, hello, Harvey. To, to, you know, rewind all the way
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back to our Shawn Mendes conversation. Like we look at these people, like you just said, and I think that
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their lives are so glamorous and awesome, but they're miserable, but they're miserable. Like, you know how
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Bella Hadid constantly posts selfies of her crying. Yeah. And it's like her way to like,
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and it's like, cope with her anxiety. Yeah. It's like, why are you so, you have what we would
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think is the best life ever. Clearly it's not. Yeah. Clearly like I don't cry every day. I don't,
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I don't either. I don't either. Like it's, it's sad to me that you people have such beautiful lives
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from the outside and you're suffering so much and maybe you should speak out about it more and maybe
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we can change the culture a little bit. Yeah. You guys have the power. People are looking at you,
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but you pretend everything's okay. I mean, I guess again, Bella, maybe she's trying to show
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it's not, it's not all okay. Like maybe she's trying a little bit. But I think too, one thing
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that kind of exemplifies is that these people are obviously miserable yet we're constantly being
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told that we should want to be like them. And it's like, but what are they missing that you have?
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Like one thing I know is that I have God. And like, even though I am a very flawed human being
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who has to bring my sins to Christ very frequently, like I'm not empty. Yeah. Like I'm not an empty
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person. Like I feel fulfilled. I feel satisfied, even though there are things I want more of. And
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it's like, when I compare myself to them, like I don't really want what they have. I sort of do.
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I want their clothes. I would like the pool time. That's the thing. I would like to hang out by a pool
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a lot, but you know, like I would, I'm not willing to take my top off for that. I'm not willing to
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sacrifice my eternal soul for it. Exactly. Yeah. And hurt other women in the process. Right.
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Exactly. So anyway, it's interesting that a lot of this stuff's coming out. I feel like we're going
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to just start to hear about more and more corruption within these industries. And I'm
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excited for it. And specifically to do with Jeffrey Epstein, who, and we, did we talk about this last
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week? I forget. No. Ghislaine Maxwell was sentenced to what? 30 years, 20, 25, 20, yes. 20 something
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years of prison, which is good. She's a monster. It's just weird that her, so the buyers of these
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women, the clients, we've not heard a peep about. Yeah. So the woman who gets them, she lures them
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and she's horrible. But with the people that she's selling these women to, those people are
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most likely in high positions of, oh, we talked about it on Sheila's show. Yes. Yeah. These men
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are likely in high positions of power and we're not going to hear about it until we're all dead
00:28:14.460
because they're still in power. So shocking no, that this Lex Westerner gentleman was tied to Jeffrey
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Epstein. And I'm sure there's so many more. Yeah. Even people who we probably like. Yeah. Which is
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scary. That's scary. That's why you can't idolize humans. Exactly. Yeah. Like it's just not worth it.
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So be fans of nobody but us. Yeah. And the good Lord. Jesus. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, I think
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that was fun. That was fun. Should we move on? Yes. Let's move on. All right. Do you want to take it
00:28:45.620
away? She rebel Wilson is being praised for her. Oh, wait. Yes. Yeah. Rebel Wilson is being praised for
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her candid post about gaining weight on vacation and reminding her followers that your weight doesn't
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define you. Yes. Yes. I mean, I agree. Yes. I do. What I appreciate about this is that she's said,
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um, okay. Yeah. She said, I just noticed I put on six pounds on my holiday, blah, blah, blah, blah,
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blah. But then she continued, but you know what? I can get up tomorrow and go to the gym and hydrate
00:29:13.360
and eat healthy and love myself. It's like, yeah. So you, you ate a little too much on vacation too.
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Sure. That's what you do on vacation. Yeah. It's totally fine to indulge, but you have to
00:29:23.220
be responsible too. Like it has to, it has to be counteracted with something healthy. I think
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like you have to have a balanced approach to your life. Yeah. Cause it's so easy to gain
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weight. It's real hard to lose it. Yeah. And it's really easy to let the pressure of Hollywood
00:29:37.580
get you down and make you depressed. And what I liked about this is, is just in the title,
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um, that she's being praised for her candid posts about gaining weight on vacation, but
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like the actual, not the actual, exactly. Because we see so much of that. Like, Oh,
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Lizzo is being praised for gaining weight. It's like, that's not great. But if Lizzo
00:29:56.620
healthy, it's not healthy. But if Liz, if they were praising Lizzo for being like, listen,
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I gained some weight, but I'm like, I'm working on it and I'm not going to get myself, I'm not
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going to beat myself up for it, but also I'm going to get to the gym soon and hydrate and
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stay healthy. She's holding herself personally responsible. Exactly. Exactly. And that's,
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what's cool about it. And for rebel Wilson to be a human being is in the eyes of, of
00:30:17.840
when everyone's looking at her is cool because she's like, I went on vacation. I gained some
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weight. It's like, don't hide that because that's what a Kardashian would do. Yeah. They
00:30:24.820
would just, they would just sweat it out and starve themselves and be like, Oh no. Oh my
00:30:28.720
gosh, I ate so much. But like, I'm just genetically blessed, I guess. Like that's what they do. And
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it's like, you're no, you're a, you're a human being. You're in your thirties slash forties,
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Kim. So when you eat, overeat and indulge, you're going to gain weight, but it's like,
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it's not the end of the world either. Like we can have these conversations that gaining weight
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does in your weight does not define you. No, it doesn't. And I think, I think it's okay to have a
00:30:49.760
little, like to feel a little bit of guilt if you've overindulged because that motivates you.
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You're like, okay, I, maybe I took it too far and I ate like 1200 cookies. Yeah. Me too. And then
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I'm like, crap, but this is my fault. I gotta, I gotta, you know, eat salad the next day and I gotta go
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for a run or something or watch someone run, you know, whatever works. That's what I do.
00:31:07.720
Yeah. She watches me run. Yeah. Um, it's think about and some, and I'm like, Oh, I'm exhausted.
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Yeah. Somehow she still has like abs. Her baby has abs. Um, but yeah, I think, you know, I think
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it's good to have a balanced approach and I like that she's doing it. Yeah. And I like her. She's
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funny. Yeah. She is funny. And her name's rebel. That's hilarious. Oh, I didn't even think of that.
00:31:28.120
Yeah. Maybe I should name my kids up. Okay. Send in your baby name suggestions. Okay. It's like,
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we've never gotten an email. We got one. We're like a lot, a lot of people are asking,
00:31:42.740
like no one's asking. People asking where I got my top. Yeah. She's not going to tell you
00:31:48.340
because she doesn't want you to have it. I don't want you to look good. Okay. Speaking of people who
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look good, Adele, most empowering quotes about her weight loss journey. So most of you know,
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Adele, her weight loss, she lost, I think it was like a hundred pounds in two years or something.
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So it's a pretty big transformation though. Like over two years. Oh yeah. Like she didn't just like,
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you can build a plane at your, in your backyard in two years. Like it's fine. It wasn't like 16 pounds
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in two weeks. Like our friends, uh, Kim Kardashian. So, you know, a lot of people though,
00:32:19.520
I feel like we're really unfair to Adele for her weight loss journey. Yeah. Well,
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that's what people do. It's so unfair. Because they saw them, she, they saw her as their fat
00:32:27.740
ally and it wasn't okay that she's no longer fat, even though it has nothing to do with you guys.
00:32:32.420
Yeah. And it's like, sorry, her body, her choice. No, no, nevermind. Okay. You know,
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it's, and I think one thing why we're kind of highlighting her is because her approach to
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losing weight was never about getting skinny. It was something actually that she would use to
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combat, combat anxiety. And that's like, one of the things I like working out is the
00:32:49.480
just, it's so cathartic. You're able to like, if you're angry, you're able to work it out or
00:32:53.860
whatever, you know, and it's, that's part of the benefit to working out aside from just, you know,
00:32:58.520
getting abs or whatever. Yeah. That's what she said is, as she was struggling with anxiety and
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she'd done a bunch of stuff to combat it. And the only thing that she found was actually really
00:33:07.240
useful was working out. And then kind of just reiterating what you said, but then people attacked
00:33:11.260
her for, you know, because it's their business, because it's their business, what she looks like. Um,
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because people feel like they own celebrities, which we do. Well, we do pay their bills. Yeah,
00:33:22.320
we do. Um, Sean. Yeah, Sean, I'm paying you. Um, but you know, people are always going to have an
00:33:27.240
opinion on your appearance or your weight. And I like that. She's just kind of like,
00:33:30.780
screw you guys about it because it's, she has to live with herself at the end of the day,
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not you. And that's why like when all these progressives, the mob comes after people,
00:33:38.900
you know, for being like, I don't know, for like, let's say even encouraging a woman to get an
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abortion or something, or like trying to be supportive while she makes the choice to abort
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her baby. It's like, but you don't have to live with the consequences if you're the one encouraging
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that person. Yeah. That person has to live with themself at the end of the day. And it's like,
00:33:54.640
so I like her, Adele's approach to this topic because it's like, she, it's her, she's all she's
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got is her own body. Like at the end of the day, her body, her choice. She also was a toddler,
00:34:05.440
you guys, she needs to be able to chase after it. Yeah. You can't do that if you're like really
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unhealthy. No. So, no. And it's also, ideally she's not doing it in a way that is negative
00:34:16.260
towards her health and that she has a healthy relationship with food and she can pass it on
00:34:19.600
to her children. Yeah, exactly. And her fans too. That's the most important thing. Yeah.
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And I think she is leading by example. Yeah. And she's got a great voice. I heard someone
00:34:27.000
singing an Adele song at like an outdoor pub and it was not good. And I was like, you should leave
00:34:32.800
that bong for Adele. Yeah. Anyways. That's our advice to you, stranger on the street. Like you're probably
00:34:39.400
good. Just not that good. Just don't sing Adele, but I'm rolling in the, no. Okay. That was the
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song and it was like, Oh, you know what? Not everyone can sing that song. Not everyone can
00:34:47.860
sing that song. Is that the sure? That's the sure. I think that's the sure. Well, thank you
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