Miss Understood No. 26 — Keep Swinging Your Hips, Elvis
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Summary
Kat and Nat discuss Taylor Swift's new album, Kim Kardashian and Pete Davidson's breakup, Demi Lovato's confusing de-transition from "they" to "they," and why Ana de Armas should drop her Cuban accent to play Marilyn Monroe in an upcoming film.
Transcript
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Hello and welcome to Misunderstood, the show for all you culturally and politically misunderstood
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lady or gen. We're your hosts. I'm Kat. And I'm Nat. And today we're going to be talking about
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someone I've been dying to talk about since MU's conception, climate criminal Taylor Swift.
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We also analyze Demi Lovato's confusing de-transition from they-them to she-her-they-them
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and discuss if it's okay that Ana de Armas doesn't drop her Cuban accent to play Marilyn Monroe in an
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upcoming film. But first, our patented culture shock moment of the week. Take it away, Kat.
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This is the biggest news since episode one of Misunderstood.
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I don't even know how- I didn't get any sleep last night.
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She's a wreck. Look at her. She looks like a nine instead of a ten.
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Kim Kardashian and Pete Davidson have split up.
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So, insiders share that the pair has a lot of love and respect for each other,
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but they found that the long-distance dynamic and their demanding schedules just made it
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Question. Didn't Daily Mail put in an article that she said that it was because he was too immature?
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And maybe, you know, as a 41-year-old with multiple children, you don't date people who
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Also, he just always seems like someone who's trying to get ahead in his career.
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Well, not like she doesn't use people to advance her career.
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It was obviously, like, I mean, it was a thing.
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I don't know because I've never been asked to be involved in one of these, like, celebrity
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But I think it's, like, manager A calls manager B and they're like, oh, she's single now.
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Like, she'd like a new relationship with someone young and on the fringe.
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Like, he's looking for someone in the upper echelon of the porno industry.
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Sounds like I'm in the room hearing this conversation live.
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However, I do think she may have also picked someone or her team picked someone that they
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knew would piss off Kanye the most because his reaction to it has been kind of interesting.
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I think he posted something on Instagram, like, rest in peace.
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Yeah, he said, Skeet Davidson officially dead at 28.
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I am convinced, though, the real reason is that she does not want to be considered a
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climate criminal like her sister Kylie because flying her private jet all the way to Australia
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I've only ever taken Coach, but I wouldn't do it for love.
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Honestly, I wouldn't put it past her to be like, it's no longer convenient for my career
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Her makeup the night before and sleeping in it, apparently.
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And speaking of guys, Demi Lovato is no longer identifying as one.
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So she will now include she, her pronouns with they, them because I know what that means.
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Yeah, so if you called Demi Lovato she a month ago, you were a hateful bigot.
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Probably because she's sick of people just calling her she and she's like, I can't.
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Yes, because she had a really short haircut last year and then she was they, them.
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And now she said, and it's her quote is, I've actually adopted the pronouns she, her again
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And then she also said, I've been feeling a little bit more feminine lately.
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And now everyone, again, needs to change how they refer to you.
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Almost like your hair is supposed to be what defines you as a human being.
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Well, my favorite part about this, and we've talked about this offline, is how like we should,
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like people are growing and it's okay that they change.
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And it's like, okay, it's okay that you change Demi because you didn't like splice and dice
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But some people take it a step too far and they can never fully go back.
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So the narrative that you're perpetuating with pronouns is so dangerous, whether it affects
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And I actually think all these people who have followers should be held accountable for that.
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Like, because you have millions and millions of followers and you going they, them, that's
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Like, what if you were a teenage girl and you were a huge fan of Demi Lovato and then she
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And then you're like, mom, dad, I want to be a they, them.
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And say you're like so adamant about it that you like cut ties with your family who are not
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Because when I was a teenager, I was very influenced by celebrities, which is embarrassing.
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And you're trying to find something you identify with so that you feel less uncomfortable as
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So say she sees that Demi Lovato is now including, her words are adopting the pronouns she, her again
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as if she's like adopting a troubled teenager's child.
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But imagine you, she, they see that and then they're like, oh, I don't want to be a they,
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You've already, I mean, your family should forgive you.
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But it's like, if you've done something to your body that's irreversible, like Abby
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Gail Schreier's book, Irreversible Damage, like you might not be able to come back from
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But how do you even, yeah, you can't hold these people accountable.
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And they're just so, you know, they're so immature.
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Like these people are so immature and they don't realize how much power they have.
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And that's why it's important to talk about them because we need to, we need to expose
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And I think people aren't critical enough of like, because you might think as like a
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But your daughter or your niece or your student, they are going to be, they will be if you
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And it's just so funny that it, it was a year ago.
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And also like people, if, if you were a critic of ours or you were like a huge Demi fan,
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you would be like, well, she's, I've seen it on Twitter.
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They're like, well, she's allowed to learn about herself and like explore.
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But really, if she was actually doing it in an authentic way, that would be going on
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Not because she has an album coming out next month.
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You could just be doing that in your close circle.
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In your family, in your tight, like you don't have to announce it to the world so that
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Well, and to your point, she apparently changed her pronouns on Instagram in April.
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And as you said, her album's coming out in August or something, end of August or something.
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And another thing she said was last year, she didn't necessarily feel like a woman or
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a man when she was faced with the choice, like walking into a bathroom or something.
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And she wanted to go with they, them to like balance her masculine energy.
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Do you have a toilet where the other vaginas are, Demi?
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And also, like, if you want to like bro around and throw a football, like, be my guest.
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Like, again, I've always had masculine, like, hobbies and interests.
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Like, you're allowed to push boundaries and do whatever you want.
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Like, and if I chose to cut my hair tomorrow, I'm still me.
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It doesn't mean I need to identify differently.
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It's like, oh, I have short hair, so now I'm a boy.
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And, like, it's funny, though, that she's admitting that gender expression is that ongoing conversation
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It's like, like, Teen Vogue wrote about this and it's like, okay, so you agree that you
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can evolve and change your mind after only a year, but a kid should go and just go all
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And, you know, maybe it's partially because she grew up in Hollywood.
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Like, anyone who was a teenage superstar, like, she was on Joe Rogan talking about it
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about a year ago or more, just before she came out as they them.
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And she, and this is a, I, and I'm not saying that everyone who has, you know, issues with
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And to, to idolize someone for being like, oh, today she's a boy.
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But also, it's like, you're influencing children who are getting their parts removed.
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So, it's like, you need to take responsibility for that.
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And if you want to have these, like, trials within your own mind, like, do it privately
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Like, instead of doing it in front of everybody and, like, encouraging young children to...
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And, I mean, I am very glad, actually, that she's reverting back to she, her pronouns.
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Only in 2022 can a woman be going by she, her, be news.
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And hopefully it means that maybe she'll influence people in, like, a more positive direction.
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But, you know, she also did have a strange relationship with her ex that we would like
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to also, I think, discuss just before we talk about Taylor Swift.
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And it goes to, it speaks to her troubled life as a Hollywood, like, star, as a teen star.
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But, yeah, she dated Wilmer Valderrama, who played Fez on that 70s show and some other
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And she's now, so she dated him when she was, she had just turned 18 and he was, I guess,
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Which is the perfect album name for someone who claims to be a Christian.
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And so a snippet from one of the soon-to-be-released songs titled 29, it surfaced on TikTok and it
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appears to make a few shady references to her ex, Wilmer.
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And so I guess they had an on-again, off-again relationship for a while.
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So I didn't know, I knew that they dated, but I didn't, I never really knew their age
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But, so at the time, she, like, I looked, looking back, she said at the time that he was adamant
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Like, he, she said in her words that he was like, you're not 18, get away from me.
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Like, so at the time she had no problem and she didn't think he was a creep and he, she
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And then now, cause she's 29, there is a line in her, one of her songs about consent.
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And I think it's like, she's, I don't know if it's an accusation.
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Well, she probably feels like a bit manipulated because one of, I mean, in, in her defense,
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like when, like we're, we're 17, but we are also almost 30.
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Um, but like you have your life together in a different way when you're, when you're
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You're fresh out of high school for a normal person.
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It was a hundred years ago and you were just being free, trying to get your first boyfriend.
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And like, you know, you're about to try alcohol for the first time in some instances.
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You're still living at home and this person's 30 years old.
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They probably had multiple loves and like heartbreaks.
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Maybe it's different when he's 50 and you're 30.
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I, I mean, you know, whatever, whatever floats your boat.
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But like, it's like, it's creepy because she's kind of an adolescent.
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You know, even if she is a consenting adult at 18.
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And then the next week, cause she's 18, it's like all good.
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I respect that he didn't break the law according to her, but like she feels used or, or, or
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she's using it because she is, and it goes back to the pronoun thing.
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Like she is, and the cookies, remember the cookies?
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Some place that was selling sugar-free cookies because it was like fat phobic.
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So, so maybe she's seeing what in my life could possibly be construed as trauma when she's
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I don't want to assume that because she likes to hop on the pity party train a lot.
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And so the problem is it's literally the boy who cried wolf.
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When you get mad at a Froyo shop or a bakery for having sugar-free cookies and you say that
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that's trauma, but then you actually experience legitimate trauma.
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Like I do, we sympathize, but it's like, you're calling him a rapist, but at the
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time, like it's hard, it's really hard to disseminate, is that the right word?
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To, to figure out what's true and what's not because this person, she, her woman is
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always coming up with something to be upset about.
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And, and to that point, it kind of reminds me of like the whole me too movement a little
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bit because women were reflecting on past hookups and they were like, oh, I was sexually assaulted.
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It's just like when Lauren Southern went to that women's march with Milo Yiannopoulos
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and they held, she held up a sign that said, um, regret isn't rape.
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And it's like, yeah, cause there was a time not too long ago when people were like, oh
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yeah, like, just like you said, like, oh, I felt awkward the next day.
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That's a hookup having sex with strangers and you, and you regret it.
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It's like, okay, that saying those kinds of hookups are assault, much like, you know,
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Demi is kind of seemingly, um, accusing Wilmer of taking advantage of her is that, um, it
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The problem is, is she's always coming up with some crate weed.
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You guys, you are, all our listeners are going to stop listening.
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And I just, I just want to talk about something light for like three seconds.
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I don't care if she's Illuminati, all you people in the comments.
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And it's, interestingly enough, it'll be not about breakups,
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It could, because breakups are kind of her thing.
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So on that point, they're like, oh, it's her first album in two years.
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It's like, she gave us two albums in that year.
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But she's also apparently the celeb with the worst private jet carbon emissions.
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Private jet discourse has peaked after marketing and analysis agency Yard released a list that
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purported to rank celebrities with the worst private jet carbon emissions since the start
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The list ranked Taylor Swift as the biggest celebrity CO2 polluter with her private jet reportedly
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emitting more than 8,000 tons during the total of 170 flights since January.
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Now, we recall like two weeks ago, Kylie Jenner was being called a climate criminal for her
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I think he flew to like Hamilton or something recently.
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However, however, my theory is that Kris Jenner, the devil of all devils, is getting ahead
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And she's like, this is, again, tinfoil hat, non-fact.
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My theory is that Kris Jenner's like, hello, Yard.
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You need to make a list and put Kylie at the bottom of it.
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And again, it's very possible that this is a real thing that was done and that Taylor
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Swift's jet does pollute more than Kylie Jenner's.
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Her rep has said that Taylor Swift often lends or rents out her jet to other people and that
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I think the moral of the story is you got bad blood with Greta.
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Yeah, honestly, I don't care when rich people fly in jets.
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I just don't like when they tell me not to eat, like, use plastic spoons.
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And by the way, Kim Kardashian was on that list and she's someone who's trying to get
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Even if, like, that's another thing when it's like, oh, the average celebrity emits this
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It's like, yeah, but there's like 1% of them and 99% of us.
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You would be flying to the doctor's office down the street.
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And again, as long as they ain't telling us how to live, I don't really care.
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Well, let's move on to something more interesting.
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There's a new Marilyn Monroe biopic because they've never made one of those before.
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So, Anna de Armas, who's a Cuban actress, Cuban-American actress, has been cast as Marilyn Monroe.
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So, on the right is, I'm sorry, on the left is Anna de Armas, and then on the right is Marilyn.
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Now, the issue that people are having with this is that Anna de Armas has a Cuban accent.
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And she didn't, like, lose it for the movie, which I think would be hard.
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Like, if you're cast as the Queen of England, you better have a British accent.
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If you're cast as a cowboy, you better have a Southern accent.
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And I was going to say, like, if you were cast as, like, a Cuban, like, pop star, you should have a Cuban accent.
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So, if you're an American icon, one could argue you should have a perfect American accent.
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It looks, it's all black and white, and she looks like she's really, like, acting.
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I just think, like, it's another example of Hollywood rewriting history in a way, because, like, movies, this is a movie about a real person.
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So, it's, the person playing Marilyn should reflect Marilyn 100%.
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Like, if we're going to start doing this with actors, then I get to play Malcolm X in another movie or something.
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It's, like, we can't, like, we need to be historically accurate to an extent unless it's, like, a spoof or, like, a comedy or something, I think.
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Because, otherwise, it's giving me 1984 vibes in a way.
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Because it's, like, okay, we can just completely rewrite history by casting someone who does not properly reflect the character 100%.
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It's just that she doesn't, she has a Cuban accent.
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And Marilyn Monroe did not have a Cuban accent.
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Now, I will point out that Tom Cruise cannot do accents.
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And he's, like, really not a good actor, I would argue.
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Like, he's super, he's a superstar in many ways.
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Yeah, and it's kind of interesting because the president and chief marketing officer of Authentic Brands Group, which owns Marilyn's estate, told TMZ that Anna has artfully captured the essence of Marilyn's voice.
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It's like, why did Margaret do that a million times?
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Yeah, and Margaret, who's one of our colleagues, has a Canadian-American accent.
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But I think Carey Mulligan should play everyone.
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But it's interesting because Brad Pitt's producing the movie.
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Yeah, his production company, Plan B, is producing the movie.
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So, it's like, of course, he's going to say she's amazing.
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It's also funny, though, because people were upset about Kim Kardashian wearing the dress.
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People in Hollywood seem to be okay with having this actress play her.
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I bet that Anna D'Armas didn't wear a single one of Marilyn's actual dresses for this movie.
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Because he's wearing burlap-looking skirts to premieres now.
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So there's a new movie of his called Bullet Train.
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And they're like, oh, my God, he's showing off his legs.
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It's like, it looks to me like a suffragette skirt.
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It looks like someone just found it on the street.
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And when asked, he said, when asked why he was wearing the skirt, he said, I don't know.
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It's like, I think the real reason is that you're an irrelevant person and you want attention.
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Honestly, if you want to mess things up, go skydiving.
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First of all, do you know something we don't know, Mr. Pitt?
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Also, like, we're all going to die, so just throw your baby off a cliff.
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Like, is there a meteor coming that they only told celebrities about?
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I want to be like an adorable, like, crusted corpse.
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I just, one final word on this is that this trend of men wearing skirts is the least sexy
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Like, when I was 14, I was obsessed with Orlando Bloom.
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But now I look back and I'm like, mm, ee, you know?
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You don't, like, when you're a teenage girl, you're not like, ooh, that manly man with a
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You don't want, like, Wolverine when you're a kid.
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But, you know, even then, as a young youth, as a young, innocent youth, I did not want
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And they're like, someone's got to wear the skirt.
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All right, we got one final topic for you all today.
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Just so you guys know, Beyonce, who released an album, her seventh studio album on July 29th,
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She's going to remove the ableist slur from a song on her new album.
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I haven't heard the song, but I'll just make up my own.
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I just wanted to note that like 50 years ago, people would have been protesting the word
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And it's the same people, the same types of people that are now protesting the word
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And I guess that most of the people who are complaining have no disabilities.
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But I bet you it's mostly like white suburban moms who are like.
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And it's just really, really sad because we're literally going back in time.
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Like, um, I wrote down a quote here, but it's, it's basically Elvis Presley.
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He was never arrested, but a judge threatened to arrest him for gyrating his hips.
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Like when he did that Elvis dance, they literally were like, we need to charge him with a crime.
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And people were like losing their minds and girls were fainting and stuff.
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So it's like, it's the same thing happening now.
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But it's just a different word and a different group of people getting offended by it.
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But those same people would literally have been the kinds of people to get offended by
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And we've talked about this on the show a thousand times.
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And I'm actually a little surprised that Queen Bee, Queen Bey, I don't know.
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But I'm surprised that she of all people came because she's one of those people where it's
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People will always love your music for whatever reason.
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She sings about this kind of stuff all the time.
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Like about how her producers tell her to do this.
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And she's like, nah, I'm going to do it my way.
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Is it because you're rolling too closely with the Clintons or something?
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And they're like, you've got to be more politically correct if you want to stay in the business.
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So Lizzo made this exact same ableist slur like recently.
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And she also removed it and put out like a statement about like, she's learning and it was
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Like, so my thing is like either Beyonce didn't know that happened, knew it happened, but didn't
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But people are saying that there's no excuse even if she herself didn't hear it because
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It's like, maybe they just don't give a crap about Lizzo.
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But like, I was going to say like, oh, maybe she's just pushing the boundaries.
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But it's no, the boundaries are pushing her and the boundaries are pushing art back.
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Like, just like Elvis Presley, they tried to stop his pelvis.
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And now the word ass and pelvic gyrations, free to go.
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Like we've seen things where we're like, oh, like that's nasty.
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I don't want, I wouldn't want my children to watch it.
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But to have it canceled and removed from the zeitgeist is literally 1984.
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And there is a line, obviously, where things kind of could become actually unsafe or they
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Well, yeah, like calling threats of murder, anything like that.
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Like there's a line for everything, of course, but this is not crossing that line.
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And I think in both songs, they're using the meaning of the word the way it's intended.
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They're not trying to throw stones at any group of people.
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Like, I don't think their heart was in the wrong place here.
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I want to read a quote from 1984, which talks about some similar topic.
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It says, don't you see that the whole aim of new speak is to narrow the range of thought?
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In the end, we shall make thought crime literally impossible because there will be no words
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So we're literally just killing vocabulary because, and this is a little different because
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It's like they don't even want you to have words to describe things so that you can't
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And it's, I think we're just going to continue to see this happen more and more.
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Well, I was going to say, like, if we keep on this trend, the only song, the only words
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and songs that you'll be able to use are like love and baby.
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But even those, it's like, well, what about people without love?
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We will be like Krusty in that episode of The Simpsons when Sideshow Bob takes, kills
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television and then Krusty finds one station and then he goes on it and he, anyways.
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