Miss Understood No. 27 — Where are all of Epstein's clients?
Summary
Nat and Kat discuss the recent FBI raid at Trump's Mar-A-Largo estate and whether or not the documents were planted by the FBI. Also, we discuss the Epstein scandal and why the media should care about it.
Transcript
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Hello! And welcome to Misunderstood, the show for the politically and culturally misunderstood
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lady or gent. We are your hosts. I'm Nat. And I'm Kat. And today, we're going to be talking about
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Trump and Epstein and stuff happening at Nickelodeon that you don't know about probably,
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but you really, really should. And it's not good. It's not good. We don't have a culture shock.
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Oh, we don't. But you know what? This episode will be shocking enough. The episode is shocking
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enough because the FBI raided former President Trump's estate at Mar-a-Lago. And that is
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shocking. We all know about it, but it's still shocking. I'm shocked. I'm pretty shocked. So
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this happened on Monday, August 8th. And apparently, the House was under siege, raided and occupied by
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a large group of FBI agents, according to Trump. They were reportedly searching the seaside property
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for boxes of classified documents that Trump allegedly brought to the Ritzy Resort after
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he left the White House in January of 2021, which would obviously be a violation of federal
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record-keeping laws. Yes. So, big deal. Big deal. Trump has made a couple of different claims about
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this. Like, I know I'm kind of, like, skipping ahead, although maybe we cut this article anyways.
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But, um, teen vonovice that Trump is accusing the FBI of planting evidence in his home. Yeah.
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But I read the actual quote. Um, let me read it for you. I got it right here. Okay. So Trump said,
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and this is what they're saying is, is an allegation of wrongdoing. Yeah. So Trump says,
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everyone was asked to leave the premises. They wanted to be left alone without any witnesses to
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see what they were doing, talking, taking, or hopefully not planting. Why did they strongly
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insist on having nobody watch them? Uh, watch them? Everybody out? Question mark. Obama and Clinton
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were never rated despite big disputes. Yeah. Well, that actually, the, the second part of that
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quote is actually a very good point. And it's, it's something that I think is important. Like,
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okay, obviously if, so apparently it, it came out that the classified documents were related to
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nuclear weapons and we don't, you don't want classified documents to be exposed to the public.
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They should be kept in a private and safe space because that could threaten national security and
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other things. Not even national. And Trump did say on August 12th that the documents were already
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declassified. I'm not sure if that's true. Yeah. So like, um, yeah, so he's been kind of saying a
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couple of things, but one thing I think it's important to note, which is why I brought up this
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quote is that people are saying, Oh, Trump is saying it's, they were planted. Oh, he's also
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saying they're declassified. Like, Oh, he's changing his story. It's like, well, actually he
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didn't, he didn't say that they were planting evidence. He's saying, I hope they weren't. I don't
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know what they were doing in there. Like they could have, it could have been unrelated. Like he's,
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he's being Trump. He is being Trump. So he's not necessarily saying they planted those nuclear
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documents in my house. Like that's, but that's what vice is implying here. Vice is just a dumpster
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fire. Yeah, exactly. In Trump's defense, he has been scrutinized and attacked and, you know,
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yeah, I don't know a better word for attack, but he's, he's just been completely targeted by the
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Democrats and the left and the establishment during his presidency. And afterwards, it's like,
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he's not the president anymore. Leave him alone. And to, to the other part of that quote, it's like,
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it kind of seems like, yes, of course, nobody's above the law except for Democrats because Hunter
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Biden and Hillary Clinton are great examples of politicians who have allegedly committed crimes
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that have gone unpunished. And it's like, so why are you guys specifically targeting Republicans?
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Is it just that Democrats are above the law? Because that's kind of what it seems like in my
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opinion. And I think conservatives are justifiably outraged by this. Of course, as we believe in like
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justice, we want the truth to prevail. If Trump committed a crime, then that's between him and the
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justice system. But it's like, it kind of seems sus. It seems sus. And I've heard people say that
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they think it's because if he goes to jail or is convicted of a crime of this nature, he cannot run
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for president. Right. Which they've been, which they would love. Well, yeah, they've been trying
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to prevent him from being a successful president or, you know, for gosh, since before he was the
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president forever. So, and I think it's kind of an interesting symbol in a way, because it's like,
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is it what Trump represents as a president is, like, freedom loving people, middle class people,
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you know, gun owners, people who have kids who have families, Christians, maybe like, and that's
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everything that the left hates. True. The hate, the left loves, you know, secularism,
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trans, transgender kids, you know, anything that's, yeah, depraved and immoral, basically.
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Exactly. Like, they love those things. They don't love tradition. So it's like,
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are they really attacking Trump? Or is this a bigger, is this symbolic of conservatives as a
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I don't know either. So this first article that we want to talk about is that the judge who okayed
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the Mar-a-Lago raid was once an Obama donor who was linked to Jeffrey Epstein. Now, when you say
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linked to Jeffrey Epstein, you think, oh, he flew on the Lolita Express. Yeah. And he was
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doing all that stuff. Probably not. He was actually a lawyer who represented a bunch of Epstein's
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employees. So it's not like he was necessarily accused of being involved in any crimes himself.
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But he did. One of the people that he is reported to have represented as a lawyer was the pilot of the
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plane. So obviously, he knows about some stuff. He knows some stuff. And he's still, he is
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representing shady people. Now, that's kind of what lawyers do.
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Yeah. No, it's true. Like, if that's his job, that's his job. It doesn't mean he's not shady,
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but it's like, that's what lawyers do. Well, especially because according to Daily Wire,
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the Florida magistrate judge, who reportedly signed off on the FBI's raid of former President
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Donald Trump's home, allegedly disparaged the former president and shared woke content on what
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appears to be his personal Facebook page. So he clearly has a disdain for Trump. He doesn't like
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him. So it just seems a little fishy. Yeah. Because it's like, you know, it seems like a clearly
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targeted attack. Yeah. And that's the problem with, I mean, and it's like the American justice
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system is probably one of the best in the world, right? I don't know. I don't know. You'd hope.
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You'd hope it's better than, yeah, more corrupt countries. But these are still human beings. The
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judge should be impartial and unbiased, but they're human beings. Because that's justice. Yeah. And
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especially in this world that we live in of like social media and globalism and like everyone knows
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everything about everyone all the time. How can you be completely unbiased about something as divisive
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as Donald Trump? No, it's true. It just never looks good when a judge like openly hates someone
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and then authorizes an FBI rate into their home. Yeah. It almost should be like, why don't we get
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a judge who's like less hot on the topic? Yeah, exactly. But maybe they're like, there's no one
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who doesn't have a very, like, do you know anyone on the planet who's like, Donald Trump? Eh, don't
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give him much thought. No, it's so true. Everybody has an opinion. Yeah. Yeah. Even if the opinion's
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like, well, you know, he did this and that, like, it's still an opinion. So it would be cool if they
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could find a judge who was like more on the fence about stuff and more impartial. But
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alas, this is what we have. And yeah. I mean, hopefully this rate is not political. Like,
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it's not politically targeted. Like, I really hope that this is they may I mean, I don't want
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I mean, you don't ever want a former president to go to jail for something. But if you committed
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a crime. Yeah, you should go to jail. Yeah. And actually, Alexa and I talked about on the
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live stream on Friday, some it was a American pollster was giving an interview to some Canadian
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news site. And they and he was like, this is a bad path. We're going down because it's
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basically like, to me, what I heard was like, this is like countries that have like violent
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insurrections and stuff like, like actual insurrections, where presidents are dragged out
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of their home. Like, what didn't that just happen in Sri Lanka? Right. Some something like
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that, something like that, where they're like, swimming in the president's pool. Yeah,
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they all went, like thousands of people went to his home. It's like nuts. And we don't want
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to turn into that kind of place, right? So it's not a bad look. It's a bad path for going
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down. It is, especially because it's like, OK, if you're going to do this to Trump, then
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you need to do it to other people. Yeah, that's the thing. Like, there's such a double standard
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and you're you're not hiding it anymore. Like, we can all plainly see that the rules are different
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for Democrats and Republicans. And I mean, to go after a former president, like, I don't
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think that's ever happened before in this manner. Not that I know of. Right. And
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like, frankly, I think they all just wanted to wear Melania's clothes. Well, yeah, because
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apparently they scoured her closet. Yeah. They scoured Melania Trump's closet while they're
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doing the raid. And it's like, like, just because her looks are nuclear doesn't mean
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Color. Color. That's too far, you guys. Yeah. You should not have been trying on her
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clothes. And I made that part up. I don't think they were trying on her clothes. No, probably
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not. But there's been some really hilarious tweets about it of, like, pictures of, like,
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FBI people wearing, like, her gowns in the street. Anyway, you got to love Twitter for
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something. Yes. Sometimes it's fun and great. And I'm on it every day, unfortunately. Anyway,
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we don't really want to stay too fixated on the Trump stuff because this whole conversation
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kind of inspired us more to talk about Epstein because, of course, all roads lead to Petto
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Island. Mm hmm. And everything always leads back to Jeffrey Epstein for some freaking reason
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these days. Everything. But the biggest question remains. We know about Ghislaine Maxwell. We
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know about Epstein. Rest in something. But where are the clients? Like, what the hell happened
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to them? There's a list. Because we're so concerned about, you know, classified nuclear documents
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being in the former president's home. But we don't really care about the countless creeps
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who attended the Lolita, who flew on the Lolita Express to Petto Island with Jeffrey Epstein.
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Mm hmm. Do you guys know who Jeffrey Epstein is? Never heard of him. Never heard of him? Weird.
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Well, I heard he killed himself. He killed himself. And what did he do, Kat? Well. For those who maybe
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don't know because they maybe are living under a rock. It's okay. We forgive you. Well, he had a
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special private island where he is supposed to have allegedly had very powerful people come in and have,
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like, sexual parties with underage girls. And Ghislaine Maxwell, who was his girlfriend on and off
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and who was basically, like, a pimp for him, that's the allegation, was the person who, she, like,
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scouted out these young women through powerful connections such as Victoria's Secret and other
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talent agencies. She was kind of a socialite. Yeah, she was a socialite.
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Right. She's able to rub elbows. So she would lure these young girls into coming to Jeffrey's,
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into his, like, care, I guess. And then he would, like, sell them in a way to rich people.
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Which is just the most horrific, disgusting thing ever. It's so horrific that it's hard to imagine
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it as being true. But so Ghislaine Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years in a U.S. prison for helping
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former financier Jeffrey Epstein abuse young girls. She was convicted in December of recruiting
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and trafficking four teenage girls for sexual abuse by Epstein. I'm sure that there are more
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than four girls. And she was recently moved to a cushy, low-security federal prison called
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Tallahassee Federal Correctional Institution that offers her yoga, Pilates, commercial snacks,
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and even collagen facials. Do you get any of that in your home, Kat? No. Are you in prison? No.
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I've never been exposed to basically any of those things. Yeah, no. Like, that's all expensive stuff.
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Like, commercial snacks, fine. I can get myself a bag. Sure. Like, a couple of Doritos. I can get
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some Doritos. Yeah, whatever. But, like, Pilates, yoga, that's all stuff I have to pay for out of my
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pockets, not cheap. A collagen facial? A collagen facial? Like, what? Excuse me? Squeeze me?
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Excuse me. And there's women right now in prison in the United States for, like, dime bags of
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marijuana. Yeah, who are getting, like, raped by biological men who identify as women. But you have fun,
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Ghislaine. Yeah. Seems like justice really prevailed in this instance. Yes. Yes. It's awful.
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But despite that being awful, she's not the only problem here. Exactly. And we've talked about this
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before. So it's like, she is a bad person, I believe. She's evil. She has been convicted of
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horrible crimes. She should be in jail. Forever. Forever. However, she was the pimp. Who are the
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clients? Yeah. And that has been on everyone's mind for a long time now, maybe a year. I don't even know
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how long this has been going on. Yeah. And I guess, did the judge, like, refuse to disclose
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the list or something like that? I think it's something like that. Like, so basically, they're
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staying hidden on purpose. And it's like, why? Are these men and women so powerful? Like, just that,
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like, that's scary. That's what people think. That they're, and that's what I think, too, is that
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their people on this list are so powerful, even right now today, that it would be too much of a shock
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to the zeitgeist of America, and maybe the globe. The whole world, probably. Yeah. To have these
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people convicted or, like, called out on these crimes. Yeah. It's disturbing. It's so disturbing.
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And there is an Instagram account called Celebs with Ghislaine. And I guess they allege that certain
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people may be tied to Epstein. And I mean, it's hard to say if it's a fair assessment, because it's
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just like they post photos of people who have been photographed with Epstein or Ghislaine. In this case,
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it's Ghislaine. But I mean, it doesn't necessarily mean just because you have a photo
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with someone that you're associated with them. Yeah. But, I mean, people are bound to know in
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Hollywood and in politics who these people are and what they're doing. Yeah. So, I don't know,
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maybe there is a case to be made for some of the people. Should we list some of the people that this
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account mentions? Yes. So, this article mentions a bunch of people. Some of the more, like, these are the
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famous ones. Yeah. There are, I'm sure there are so many names on this list that
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nobody knows. They're just judges or lawyers or politicians or whatever. Doctors. Who cares?
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So, Prince Andrew of the royal family. He's a big one. He has been basically ostracized from the
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royal family as a result of this coming out. But, like, he's not in prison. No. Because these
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powerful people, somehow the justice system just... Yeah. Doesn't care.
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Um, this... I've also heard Naomi Campbell. Oh, right. You're talking about just the pictures.
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Yeah. Yes. Okay. Yeah. This is a list of people that are, like, yeah. There's a... There's a lot
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of people. There's a lot of people. We should list some because I think it's fine. Yeah. Go for it.
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Okay. So, there's, uh, Kyle McLaughlin. There's Elle McPherson. Pierce Morgan. President Donald
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Trump. Mick Jagger. Michael Bolton. Um, Jane Krakowski. Carol Radiz... I don't know who that
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is. Um, and the Clintons, of course, Bill and Hillary, who we know kind of... So, clearly
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they had a friendly relationship with Elaine at the very least because she attended, uh,
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Chelsea Clinton's wedding, which is the child of Hillary and Bill. Yeah. Like, that goes a little
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further than... Photos. Photos. Yeah. Like, so you're, you're socialite. You're at some big
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socialite event. You take a photo of someone. You're like, oh, who was that? I don't know.
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Because when you're... If we're Elle McPherson, maybe she wants to take a picture with you. And
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she's like, can we have a picture? And you're like, sure. Doesn't mean Elle McPherson's a
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pedo. No. By any means. Um... Hopefully not, Elle. Hopefully not. Yeah. I'm giving you the
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benefit of the doubt. Yes. But there's also this... This article talks about, uh, powerful
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men who are associated, like, provably associated with Epstein. Yes. More than just taking photos
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who are, like, actually involved in business dealings, um, and, like, trafficking women. So... Which we talked
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about in our episode about Victoria's Secret, too. Yes, we did. With, um, what's his name?
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Les Wexner. Les Wexner, yes. So, Prince Andrew, as I mentioned, there's this guy named Jean-Luc
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Brunel. No relation to the Jean-Luc from Star Trek TNG. No relation. Um, so he... I didn't
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know about him, but his little blurb. His nickname, the King of the Catwalk, who was accused
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of trafficking over 1,000 women and girls to Epstein, he was discovered dead in his cell
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at La Sainte prison earlier this year. Never heard of him before. Nope. Yeah. Doesn't look
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good. Doesn't look good, guys. Um, as we... So, uh, Les Wexner, um, who we talked about,
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who was the owner of, uh, the brand L Brands, who owns Victoria's Secret. Um, and then here's
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another quote from the article. It says, an investigative journalist named Christopher Mason
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discovered that Epstein kept surveillance tapes of anyone who walked through and around
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his home and that Maxwell had all of this footage. So, they now... So, the FBI or whoever
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the heck is investigating this has that footage. Yep. They know about all these people. They
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know... They know who is there. I know. And they don't want to release it. It's weird.
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It's so weird. And there's an investigative journalist named Christopher Mason who discovered
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that Epstein kept, as you said, surveillance tapes. And it's... He's someone who says he
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knows, like, he has answers to all this and he's not releasing it for some reason. Well, I think
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he said it was because some of it would, um, identify some of the victims. So, that's
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something I hadn't actually thought about. That's a great point. It's a good point. Blur
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out their faces. I don't know. Yeah, I know. It's like... Like, figure it out. It's something
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I hadn't just, like, really thought about myself. So, it's like, maybe that's why we're
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not releasing the list. Yeah, that's a good point, too. Because we're trying to protect
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the victims of these horrible crimes. However, um, you convict pedophiles and rapists
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every day. And the victim's name is not on the front page of the news. And, you know,
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I think this is just interesting because our culture clearly only cares about justice when
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it's convenient for them or when it perpetuates a certain narrative or when it can be glamorized.
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Because when it comes to rich, powerful people grooming and raping children, we're ignoring
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it. Like, we're basically ignoring it. Or we're covering it up with Johnny Depp, Amber Heard
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trials. Because she, Ghislaine, was convicted around the same time as their, like, eight-week
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trial, you know. And it's important to talk about, you know, culture. And we care about,
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you know, Johnny Depp and Amber Heard because it speaks to a different moment in our culture
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and stuff. But it's like, this is the biggest story maybe ever in our lifetime. Like, innocent
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children have been harmed and exploited and raped by creepy, powerful men who are maybe running
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our countries, who are in our political system. Like, what? And famous Hollywood actors who
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make millions of dollars and they get Oscars and all this crap. Like, what the hell?
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Well, I was actually looking to watch a movie last night on Netflix. And I was like, oh,
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this looks interesting. The Ninth Gate starring Johnny Depp. It's from the 90s. And within the
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first, like, two seconds, it's like a Roman Polanski film. And Ryan's like, turn it off.
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We're not watching this. And I was like, true. Like, he is now, I think he, is he in jail
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So, fine. He's no longer in Hollywood sitting on Ventura Avenue drinking Starbucks. Fine.
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His freaking movie's still on Netflix. Like, we cannot, like, we love these movies and these
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celebrities so much that we're like, okay, I know, like, separate the art from the artist.
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But it's like, when the artist is a literal pedophile rapist. There has to be a line.
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There has to be a line. Well, it's the same with the Weinstein production company.
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Like, so many, like, amazing movies that have been made under that banner, unfortunately.
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But you're right. They're still all on Netflix.
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They're still all on Netflix. And like, I don't mind what, if you want to watch them, fine.
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But those movies should be made free. It's like, you, no one can profit from this, but you know
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that that's not the case because they're on Netflix and Netflix had to buy the rights to that film
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from whoever owns it still. That, that should be a wash.
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Like, fine. You can't, I don't want to memory hole stuff.
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But it shouldn't cost you a dime to watch a pedophiles movie.
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No, it's so true. And I think it's just interesting that our society, to tie it back to Trump,
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they care more about seeking justice from a former president than they do about Epstein and that list.
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Like, that's just, there is something so depraved about that.
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People are so blinded by their hatred for Trump that they would rather expose this man.
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Well, like, like, just to play devil's advocate to what you said earlier,
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And he's having people come into our Mar-a-Lago all the time.
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So, like, maybe that trumps the pedophile island.
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Like, like, progressives are like, let's get him.
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What are the chances that in that briefcase he has something that's like, oh, like, if North Korea gets this, we're all dead.
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But they won't be the future if we're all annihilated from nuclear devices.
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Because we don't have all the facts yet when it comes to Trump.
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You're completely right about the outrage level.
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People are like, yeah, Jeffrey Epstein, what are you going to do?
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It's like, okay, like, let's have the same amount of fire in our bellies for, like, young women getting assaulted and used.
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And, I mean, maybe it's just because we know, as we've talked about on the show so many times, that our society just doesn't give a crap about children or young people or youth or adolescents.
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Which is, to me, was extremely shocking and disturbing.
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And we're going to talk about specifically this man named Dan Schneider and the allegations against him.
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It's interesting to see how little people care about children.
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And how they're always, like, we, they're always at the bottom of the priority list.
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Well, I told Wang about the time in the film, a couple the stars to never speak about her experiences but she refused.
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she recently basically wrote about her experiences
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and said that they were incredibly uncomfortable.
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and she was a huge fan of that Ariana Grande show,
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In 2021, the New York Times uncovered allegations
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that Schneider, who cut ties with Nickelodeon in 2018,
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had been verbally abusive prior to his departure,
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though they found no evidence of sexual misconduct.
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Jeanette claims that her former boss, who she doesn't name,
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And that is a theme throughout several articles
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allegedly, but there's like multiple allegations.
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and those are the only things that he'll comment on.
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it's because I was hustling at the beginning of my career.
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And you know, they are human beings just like you.
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However, there are things that he will not even touch
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about how he doesn't remember a single victorious episode
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And apparently there was like a lot of sexual stuff
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some of which were 18, some of which were under 18.
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It's not just one or two crazy people being like,
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Teen act, like child stars have had a rough time
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there might be something boiling beneath the surface.
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Yeah, she's been photographed in her bathing suit
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as though they were always walking on eggshells.