Rebel News Podcast - Miss Understood No. 28

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to Misunderstood, the show for all you culturally and politically misunderstood

00:00:22.020 ladies or gents. We are your hosts. I'm Kathy. And I'm Nathie. And today we're going to talk

00:00:27.740 about the latest feminist news to hit the scene. For example, did you know working from home negatively

00:00:33.380 impacts women more than men? Allegedly. Plus, Serena Williams is retiring from tennis because

00:00:39.520 she has a uterus. And Mindy Kaling is promoting single motherhood. Yikes. But first, our patented

00:00:46.300 culture shock moment of the week will take it away, Kathy. Well, well, Nathie. Nathie. Um, apparently,

00:00:53.280 and people aren't talking about this, but apparently Anthony Fauci, the good Lord himself,

00:00:58.620 I shouldn't say that. Our Lord and Savior, Anthony Fauci. Anthony Fauci is retiring. In Fauci,

00:01:05.380 we trusted, I guess, because he's retiring. Wow. This is nice to me. From NIAID and as the chief

00:01:11.040 medical dude at the secretary of the White House. Yeah. So, uh, he's, so he's gonzo at the end of

00:01:18.120 the year. Yeah. And I guess he's been working for like 38 years. I'm sure it wasn't to make

00:01:23.580 money. I'm sure it was to help the nation. Yes. I'm sure he wasn't corrupted at all and had no

00:01:28.820 interests of his own. I'm sure the response to the COVID-19 pandemic was, uh, out of the goodness

00:01:34.160 of his heart. He didn't make a lot of money or anything throughout the pandemic. No, and I'm sure

00:01:38.340 he didn't fuel the AIDS, uh, fears in the 80s by telling people they could get, catch AIDS by close

00:01:44.660 contact with another human being. So we're obviously losing one of America's- One of the best. One of

00:01:50.120 the greats. The greatest, um, medical authorities in America and- Eddie's soldier. I'm- I'm actually

00:02:01.160 really sad because the COVID-19 pandemic was so fun for all of us, wasn't it? Wasn't it so fun for you

00:02:08.300 when you lost your jobs, when, when you were forced to get a vaccine you didn't want, when you closed your

00:02:13.080 business, when your kids were stuck at home? When your family stopped talking to you and your

00:02:16.640 friends disowned you? Oh, the divorce? The divorce is- The divorce is- The opioid crisis. Yeah. Oh my

00:02:21.920 goodness. Well, what a fun time. And I guess hopefully now that you're gone, we'll never have

00:02:26.480 to relive it again. But your legacy will live on, Fauci. Watch the person who replaces him be much worse.

00:02:33.420 Come back, Fauci. Fauci, come back. All right. Anyway. You shall be missed. Yeah, we are really, um,

00:02:41.660 broken up about it. We're, clearly we're in distress. These are real tears. Um, this is an

00:02:48.980 interesting one. Let's, uh, let's jump right into it then. So apparently the work from home

00:02:54.080 revolution is also a trap for women. Women. For women. Just one woman. Yeah, just one. Just

00:02:59.660 she's having a rough time. It's the author. She's having a rough go. Did you work from home at all

00:03:06.040 during the COVID-19 pandemic? Yes, I did. Yes, I did too. And did you feel like it was a trap?

00:03:11.900 Um, no. I adopted my beautiful dog, Beatrice. I got happy. And bonded with her. Yeah. Right? It

00:03:17.540 was so much easier raising a dog. It was the best time to bond with my dog. So beautiful. And now she

00:03:21.560 cries when I leave the house. So I think maybe it was too much. So something that she needs to work

00:03:27.140 through, but it was a positive thing overall. Yeah. Um, so basically this article just talks

00:03:32.980 about how, although there are, you know, positives to working from home, it specifically negatively

00:03:39.760 targets women. Women of color, Natasha. Oh my gosh. Yes. This is a good one. Yeah. So here's

00:03:44.820 a good one. This is a fun quote. And you sent me this quote. Please read the quote. And it's a funny

00:03:47.720 one. Okay. Women of color love not being exhausted from working in close physical proximity with

00:03:55.140 white people and their microaggressions. That's racist. Um, another one was, um, they like

00:04:05.760 being able to use their own bathrooms. Yeah. Um, are we allowed to use our own bathrooms or

00:04:10.160 are they putting biological males in them? Yeah. So now women care about bathrooms. Yeah.

00:04:13.920 Now we care about bathrooms. Now we're so concerned about sharing a bathroom. Another one is women

00:04:18.260 like making their own lunches without others commentaries on them. What? You're that sensitive

00:04:24.520 about food. If you're sensitive about food, like you're, what you're eating, like you maybe

00:04:28.620 should talk to someone. Like who is this fragile dove who gets bent out of shape when someone's

00:04:32.500 like, Oh, is that a sandwich? Kathy? Like it's not, it's not that bad. But so this article

00:04:38.720 starts off with saying how great working from home is for all these reasons, like microaggressions

00:04:43.460 and their own bathroom. Yeah. My favorite part of working from home was avoiding those things

00:04:48.640 as well. Yes. So, um, yeah. And it's, so there's this other quote, it's like there's

00:04:53.740 one significant catch in this working from home utopia that additional flexibility opens

00:04:58.620 up a space and that space is quickly filled with responsibilities that were once equally

00:05:02.520 distributed between partners in a relationship, but also between citizens and society in which

00:05:06.860 they are a part. Okay. No. Yeah. No, that's, we could pretty well just stop talking.

00:05:13.500 Wrong. No. Um, it's, sorry. Well, I think it's just interesting because what if like you're a

00:05:22.000 woman who goes to the office? I'm non-binary, so I'm going to have to try and, okay, I'm a woman.

00:05:27.720 Imagine you're a woman. So you're a woman. Yeah. You go to the office. You have kids. Okay. Your

00:05:32.180 husband works remotely. So do, do the responsibilities fall on you still? Of course.

00:05:37.720 Even when you're out of the home? Yeah. Or perhaps it's your husband who picks up slack while

00:05:41.640 you're out commuting. No, no man has ever cooked a meal as far as I'm concerned. I'm not married to

00:05:45.580 a man who cooks all of my meals. No. Bless him. Bless his heart. Bless his heart. Yeah. And they

00:05:51.120 talk about equity in a marriage, like, and it's like, but you guys are a partnership. Like you're

00:05:56.080 supposed to be a partnership. There are, I think, certain instances in a relationship where someone

00:06:00.740 does, you know, carry a bit more weight, but I think it evens out. Like pregnant belly, like a big old

00:06:05.180 pregnant belly. Exactly. Maybe a woman carries that weight. Well, exactly. But then that means that

00:06:09.740 your husband or whomever would be picking up the slack in other areas. Yeah. Maybe, right?

00:06:14.200 Like if it's financially, that's one way. If it's not financially, then perhaps he does

00:06:20.320 more housework. Maybe he spends more time with the kids. Like I know people who are the woman

00:06:24.060 is the breadwinner of the family and the husband deals with the children because that's what he's

00:06:29.000 good at. There are stay at home dads. Yeah. So, and it's, I think this article is sort of ignoring

00:06:34.080 biology a bit because the study found that even when the father was unemployed and the mother was

00:06:41.840 employed, the mother still did more of the unpaid care work. But what the heck is unpaid care work?

00:06:47.800 Being a mom? Like that's such a cold and weird way to describe your life. They always talk about

00:06:52.460 it like that. And they, and that comes up later with the Serena Williams stuff, but it's always like,

00:06:56.540 it's not fair that a woman has to do this and that, and that she has to like be a mom. It's like,

00:07:02.500 first of all, you don't have to be a mom. No one is forcing it. If they are, call the police

00:07:07.180 immediately. Yeah. That's illegal. Okay. But B, if you're choosing to be a mom, which is a privilege,

00:07:11.500 not a right, embrace it. Yeah. It is paid in love and gratitude and love and like little baby

00:07:19.960 squeaks and giggles. And you're, you've created a human being, like a productive, hopefully functioning

00:07:25.600 human being that's going to pay for your retirement home one day, hopefully. Yeah. Push you around in a

00:07:29.840 wheelchair. Like to think of being a motherhood is unpaid labor. It's just so backwards. It's so

00:07:34.100 clinical. It's, it's horrible. Yeah. It's just, it's so weird. It's your child. Yeah. And I mean,

00:07:38.420 obviously there are elements of this article that I actually do agree with. Um, but the biggest

00:07:44.740 kind of trigger point, not trigger point, the biggest like triggered. Yeah. I'm so triggered by

00:07:50.080 this article, but the biggest thing that made me like discredit it is that they use words like

00:07:54.840 she session and microaggression and just like the worst sort of things that everyone hates about

00:08:02.880 women. They are embodying that. And it's like, how are women supposed to be taken seriously when

00:08:07.380 people write about this crap? Like, you know, I just don't, I just don't get it. I don't get it

00:08:13.580 either, Natasha. And, um, there, they also talk about the fact that, um, 20, so 75% of heterosexual

00:08:21.200 marriages is the man makes more money and the woman does more housework or whatever. Right.

00:08:26.180 But it's like, okay, 75% is big, but 25% is a quarter. Yeah. So that means a quarter of the

00:08:30.900 time. It's the opposite. Right. And that's not a, something to, that's significant. That's

00:08:35.580 significant. Yeah. The whole thing is like, it's a trap for women. Like who's the trapper? And it's

00:08:40.420 like, are the women who are choosing to do this trapped? Yeah. Like, am I, am I trapped because I

00:08:44.280 like a clean sink? Exactly. No, no. Like it kind of seems like they're putting all women in a box,

00:08:48.300 but it's so funny because feminism is all about how women can do anything. And it's like, well,

00:08:52.020 what if I just want to clean the damn toilet? Okay. I don't. No one wants to clean the toilet,

00:08:57.140 but I'm, I'm going to do it a little better than my husband. It has to happen though.

00:09:00.380 It does have to happen. Yeah. They also talk about how there's a 10% disparity between like,

00:09:05.340 as people are starting to go back to work after the pandemic, uh, more men are returning to work

00:09:10.460 and it's only a disparity of 10%. So, and they're like, see, men are just trying to get out of

00:09:14.760 housework. And I'm like, I bear, I really don't think that your husband is going to commute to

00:09:19.980 work and deal with trouser pants and like communal bathrooms just to get out of like cleaning the sink

00:09:26.160 or whatever. It's so stupid. It's absolutely ridiculous because nobody likes commuting.

00:09:31.020 Yeah. No one likes so exhausting and stressful and it can be dangerous depending on the weather. Like

00:09:36.260 I'm pretty sure these men would rather work from home. And some, I know, like I had a boss once who

00:09:42.480 said coming to work was like his time, right? Like he spent, he, when he goes home, it's,

00:09:48.000 he's involved with his family. Exactly. But when he goes to work, he can focus on work and he doesn't

00:09:52.280 have to like, it's not like he can't think about his family, but it's like he can focus and it's

00:09:55.300 like, there's a separation there and he enjoyed that. And like, maybe as a woman, maybe it's harder

00:09:59.980 to make that separation and you're still worried about what's going on at home because of biology.

00:10:03.100 So it's like, it's easier just to be at home. Yeah. But it's like, and also maybe men are just not

00:10:07.840 scared of COVID. Have we considered that? Maybe less men are frigging terrified of COVID and are

00:10:12.080 not using it as an excuse not to go back to work because they're like, I don't feel safe. Yeah.

00:10:16.080 No, it's so true. Unless they live in Toronto, then they're all scared. Well, obviously.

00:10:19.160 When one of the things they talked about was like this Deloitte 2022 women at work survey

00:10:24.060 in which 53% of the 5,000 women surveyed reported higher levels of stress than a year ago,

00:10:29.540 a whopping 46% felt burned out and 33% had taken time off to deal with their mental health.

00:10:34.500 Among women actively looking for a new job, 40% of women cited burnout as their main reason. But,

00:10:40.820 and I think actually working from home during the pandemic was a bit exhausting because you never

00:10:45.400 felt like you left work and I, and then you, you had a never ending work day. Exactly. And then you

00:10:50.140 get off work and you have to do with your children who are also probably at home, but that is not

00:10:54.280 exclusive to women. Like burnout is a, I think that's such a huge millennial thing in general.

00:10:58.760 I know half the stuff in this article could absolutely be applied to men.

00:11:01.260 Right. Exactly. And we've talked about work burnout before, especially as millennials. And I think

00:11:05.880 it's something that I, everyone, again, like you can't put people in a box. I think everyone can

00:11:09.940 experience this depending on where you work and how your bosses respect your free time and stuff

00:11:16.160 like that. But it's such a, it's such a larger conversation than just women. Like it really is

00:11:22.520 humans. And it's a, it's a huge issue that I, I actually really sympathize with this because I,

00:11:28.260 I think burnout is so legitimate and I don't think people talk about it enough, but hello,

00:11:32.880 like this is a bigger conversation. It's not about moms. Yeah. And it's like all the research

00:11:36.980 that they did basically just like backed up their, their already determined like consensus.

00:11:43.220 Yeah. Like it just affirmed their bias. Exactly. Yeah. And it's like, you, like I've said,

00:11:47.660 you can apply all of these things to men and some men prefer to be at home and some men prefer to be

00:11:52.800 at the office and same goes for women and it's okay. And yes, like if you are the kind of woman

00:11:58.640 who comes home from working a full day at work and your husband has been at home and he's not done

00:12:04.200 anything, that can be very frustrating. Yeah, it can. For sure. Yeah. I sure, I'm sure that happens

00:12:10.600 both ways. Oh yeah. And you, that's a, that's a conversation to have inside your own marriage and

00:12:15.480 like to, to look at, you know, priorities and responsibilities between the sexes. And like,

00:12:20.860 sometimes one person is the breadwinner and the other person picks up the slack in other areas.

00:12:25.060 Like those are individual, like, like circumstances. And it's not something that can just be like

00:12:30.360 defined by like, oh, women are being trapped. It's like, oh, give me a break. That's a good,

00:12:36.000 that kind of inspires this next thought I have where it's kind of, it seems like we're in competition

00:12:41.340 with each other. Like you're not supposed to be in competition with your spouse. Yeah, exactly.

00:12:44.760 Like you're not supposed to be in competition with your spouse. You guys are equals. You're

00:12:48.640 equals. Like you just said, it's a partnership. Exactly. So you're going to have to pick up the

00:12:53.300 slack here and there, but I think it should even out in the end. And if it doesn't, then you're

00:12:56.840 right. That's something you should address more seriously. I don't know. Yeah. Not every

00:13:00.960 relationship works nicely and it doesn't, it's not an equal. And some women are coming home to a

00:13:05.480 mess after working a full day and their husband's a bum. Like that stinks. Yeah. That'd be so

00:13:09.360 exhausting. But that, that's not the majority of relationships and that's not what they're even

00:13:13.180 talking about here. They're talking, they're making like a broad brushstroke about like men

00:13:17.920 in general, like love to go to the office and leave their, like this quote, or in some cases

00:13:23.000 they're subconsciously or subconsciously choosing to distance themselves from the possibility of doing

00:13:27.560 more unpaid domestic labor. Like come on. Unpaid domestic labor. Like it's, you build a home

00:13:33.920 together. It shouldn't, like, it's not supposed to be this like, like exhausting and miserable.

00:13:38.980 No. And you know, like, I know myself where I'm like, we need to reorganize the plastic bags.

00:13:44.080 There's different types of plastic. Like a man is like, I'm cool with having disorganized plastic

00:13:48.320 bags under the sink, but I'm like, I want them to be organized so that when I open the sink,

00:13:52.400 it's not bags flying everywhere. It's like, that's my per, like for, for him, he's not trying to get

00:13:57.040 out of that unpaid domestic labor. He just doesn't want to, it's just not important to him at all.

00:14:01.560 Yeah. And it's okay. But he'll care about something that's complimentary to that, but

00:14:05.500 different that you don't want to do. And anyway, make money. I can't. Yeah. Like make money.

00:14:12.040 That's why she needs your e-transfers. Please send me an e-transfer.

00:14:15.260 Speaking of money, should we move on to our next one? Yes. Let's move on before my face explodes.

00:14:19.760 Yes. It's going to happen. I guess one last thought on that article though, is you making

00:14:23.540 women look bad. Yeah. It's, it's the subtle bigotry of low expectations and cut it out.

00:14:28.440 Cut it out. Cut it out. We can do it all. We can do whatever we want. Okay. So shut up. All right.

00:14:34.220 All right. Bryce Dallas Howard says she was paid quote, so much less than Chris Pratt for Jurassic

00:14:40.060 World until he advocated for equal pay. Okay. Do you see, do you see it in the title there, Nat?

00:14:47.580 She was paid so much less than Chris Pratt until who advocated for equal pay? I think it was a

00:14:56.140 biological male. It was him. It was Chris Pratt. It was a man. Like, so I think it's wrong. Like,

00:15:02.140 okay, I'm going to back up a little bit before I dig into this. In this article, it mentions that

00:15:07.320 Ellen Pompeo said that she- From Grey's Anatomy. Yeah. She almost quit Grey's Anatomy when she found

00:15:12.760 out Patrick Dempsey was getting paid twice as much as her. That is effed up. The show is called

00:15:17.760 Grey's Anatomy and she plays Meredith Grey. The, the- But- Okay, fine. Fine. I don't watch the show,

00:15:23.980 but like, but, um, what? Did they negotiate? Well, yes. That's the thing. Their wage. Hilarious.

00:15:30.220 Like, we've talked about the wage gap before. Women are less likely to demand more money or

00:15:35.620 negotiate more money. That's my first thought. And my second thought on this is in the case of Bryce

00:15:40.840 Dallas Howard, even though I actually think she's an incredible actress, uh, people don't know her.

00:15:46.740 They know Chris Pratt. Like, he's super famous. Yeah. So he's bound to make the movie more money

00:15:53.320 because of that, right? Like, and, and it's horrible and it might be sexist, but if she quit,

00:15:59.120 they would replace her with another woman. Yeah. That's a good, that's a good point. It's unfortunate.

00:16:03.620 I'm not saying it's right. It happens all the time. Like, James Bond stays the same. The girl

00:16:08.620 changes every time. Yeah. Mission Impossible, Tom Cruise, he stays the same. The girl changes every time.

00:16:12.860 But it's not fair, but it's the way it is. So like, you need to advocate for yourself. Yes. You

00:16:18.540 need to make yourself irreplaceable. And as a woman that can be hard, especially in Hollywood where

00:16:23.640 your beauty fades and the male just keeps getting older and somehow that's okay. It's disgusting.

00:16:28.340 It's disgusting. Sexist industry. It's horrifying. And I get that. But like Nat just mentioned,

00:16:34.660 Patrick Dempsey probably negotiated his salary better than Ellen Pompeo and Chris Pratt definitely

00:16:41.060 negotiated his salary better than Bryce Dallas Howard because he, in this thing, he says

00:16:46.300 to her, you don't have to do a thing. I will take care of it. And it's like, he's playing

00:16:51.400 this, he's being the hero in real life. Yeah. And it's like, Bryce, you, like, you're making

00:16:57.760 yourself seem pathetic by being like, I don't make enough money, but like, I don't know what

00:17:01.620 you do. And then the man comes in and like, fixes it for you. It's like, well, that's, that's

00:17:04.620 why he gets more money than you. Plus, isn't Bryce Dallas Howard a child of nepotism? I'm pretty

00:17:12.340 sure she came to Hollywood with some help. Don't know if Chris Pratt did. Pretty sure,

00:17:19.560 pretty sure he's self-made. Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But yeah,

00:17:23.120 that is another thing. That is another element to consider though. That's like, I, half of these

00:17:26.960 people were born into this life. It's hard to pity you when you willingly enter a career in

00:17:31.860 Hollywood and you're like, oh, they treat women so bad. It's like, yeah, they have for

00:17:35.140 like a million years. Like, like what else is new? Yeah. Like you, you chose to go into

00:17:39.880 an industry that is going to sexualize you and, um, what's the word I'm looking for?

00:17:44.940 Just mistreat you and disrespect you. Yeah. And also a Hollywood producer is not going to

00:17:49.180 pay a penny more than they need to. No business will, including producers, will pay a penny more

00:17:54.020 than they need to. Absolutely need to. So if Chris Pratt is the star of the franchise and

00:17:58.260 he's going to get the audience. And yeah, they're like, oh, I'm going to go see.

00:18:01.380 No one says I'm going to go see that new Bryce Dallas Howard movie. No, because she doesn't

00:18:05.580 have the pull, even though she has talent. She's talented. It's just the way it is. And

00:18:09.520 it sucks. But you chose to be in a terrible industry. It's terrible. And if you're going

00:18:13.740 to be in that industry as a woman, you need to learn to negotiate like a man, unfortunately.

00:18:17.720 And it sucks. Like, why should you have to be beautiful and sensitive and a good actress

00:18:21.360 and also a negotiator? That sucks. Yeah. I don't want to tell you. I don't want to tell you either.

00:18:26.680 But it's the way it is because he went in and he negotiated for you and now you're enjoying

00:18:30.940 the benefits of that. And so you should thank him. Yeah. You should just thank him and not

00:18:35.820 thank him. Speak to the news about it. He can kill dinosaurs and negotiate for better wages

00:18:39.420 for you. And he's like pretty hot. He's very hot. Anyway. Anyways. Speaking of more sexism.

00:18:44.520 Yeah. Serena Williams on why she's retiring now. I definitely don't want to be pregnant again

00:18:50.380 as an athlete. I feel her. Yes. Well, okay. In her defense. Yeah. Before we get into the article.

00:18:56.680 Before we rip her apart. The birth of her daughter in 2017 was very traumatic and it led to multiple

00:19:02.300 surgeries and a near death scare. So kill me now. Right. And I think it's because she was quite a bit

00:19:08.740 older when she had her first kid. Okay. She's like 41. I'm going to I'm going to cry. You're

00:19:13.680 very young. Okay. 17. Okay. Okay. She's going to be fine. She's very healthy. You're you're also not

00:19:19.580 a tank like her. Well, that's you'd think that someone like an athlete would just be able to

00:19:23.560 like shoot it out like a tennis ball. So she's saying ta-ta to tennis after seven Wimbledon and

00:19:30.940 seven Australia Open title six US Open trophies and three French Open crowns. Williams,

00:19:35.440 who's 40 is officially retiring from the sport she announced last week. It's pretty impressive

00:19:40.200 that she's so good still at 40. She's one of the greatest players. Like that's pretty crazy. And

00:19:45.240 she came from nothing like you should watch the Will Smith movie. What's it called King Richard?

00:19:50.840 Yeah, honestly so good. And it's all about her and her sister and her dad and Will Smith actually

00:19:54.620 deserved his Oscar. I'm sorry. Don't slap me though. That's okay. Yeah. But I don't know 40 is

00:20:02.120 pretty old for an athlete. Yeah, it is. You know, it's old for a male athlete. So we could

00:20:06.600 tinfoil had it and say like, oh, maybe she's actually just retiring and she doesn't want to

00:20:11.160 concede that she's too old for the game. But it's like she hasn't been losing lately. So that seems

00:20:15.660 not that I follow tennis that closely, but I haven't seen like, oh, Serena Williams like

00:20:20.060 loses again. So yeah, I'm thinking that might not be it. But I think there's something to be said

00:20:25.340 about the fact that like, when a male athlete retires, it's usually because he's too old,

00:20:30.620 or he's injured, right? Because he doesn't, he doesn't want to play anymore. But for a female,

00:20:35.060 she's literally retiring because she wants to give birth again. And, and you could look at it

00:20:40.140 two ways. The first way and how she's probably looking at it and how the left will look at it

00:20:44.420 is like, that's not fair. Yeah, that's not fair that she has to give up her career to have a baby.

00:20:49.340 We're also just not have a baby. Yeah, I would argue the other way to look at it is like,

00:20:53.000 well, that's a privilege. Like I've mentioned earlier, like having a baby is a privilege,

00:20:57.060 not a right. And she doesn't have to do it. She's doing it. She could also adopt. Yes,

00:21:00.620 exactly. There are ways that she could bring more life into her family. A puppy. Exactly. And,

00:21:06.400 and it's a, it's one of the most beautiful things she can do. And the fact that she can be a huge,

00:21:11.000 the biggest female tennis star in the world ever, and also a mother is awesome. Like we,

00:21:17.480 they'd say like, you can look at it like, oh, that sucks that she has to. It's like,

00:21:20.940 or you can be like, how amazing is it that she did both things? No, I totally agree. And she,

00:21:26.260 she came from nothing. Like she hustled, her family worked their ass off to get her to where

00:21:30.080 she is. And I think it's like, she has like a net worth of, oh gosh, it's like hundreds of

00:21:34.220 millions of dollars. She's married to some hitting a ball with a thing. Yeah. So $260 million net worth.

00:21:40.320 And it's like, you've accomplished so much. Like, I think if you're going to be exiting this field,

00:21:45.600 you need to go out on a high horse and say, look at all the things I've done. Yeah. I came from

00:21:50.020 nothing. I've done enough. And I'm also a mom to your point. And I'm married and I have a huge net

00:21:54.620 worth. And you, you also paved the way for other little black girls in tennis. Like she's,

00:22:00.640 she's literally an icon. She's an icon. I don't particularly like the way she plays. She's like,

00:22:05.820 she gets it done. She gets it done. She could take you, she could wrap you up into a ball. She could

00:22:11.100 kill me. Like she's scary. Yeah. Um, I just think it's such a weird way to look at it. It's like,

00:22:16.260 Oh, she has, Oh, it sucks. She has to quit. It's like, yeah. Well, she's being a responsible,

00:22:20.980 loving mother. Yeah. Like I think children need their parents. And I think you're doing the right

00:22:24.960 thing. Your kid didn't ask to be born. You brought it into the world. You should be a supportive and

00:22:28.600 loving and present parent. And I don't know if she'd been playing for decades as well. It's like,

00:22:34.040 maybe it's time to let someone else win. Like she's kind of being a gatekeeper. Yeah,

00:22:38.220 a little bit. I mean, the thing is, if you're the goat, you're the goat. You don't need to

00:22:42.240 retire just to let some loser come in second place. Like, but I will say that this highlights

00:22:47.500 the biological differences between men and women. We need some sort of like alarm.

00:22:54.240 Biological differences between men. Like, uh, she has to quote, give up her tennis career to give

00:23:02.500 birth to a child. And you know, who's never going to have to do that? Uh, Leah Thomas. Leah Thomas.

00:23:07.240 But we'll never have to do that. I think the way she describes it though,

00:23:10.420 makes it seem as though she resents her kid a little. Yeah. That's, that's the problem with

00:23:14.520 the whole take. And her kid's going to grow up and see all of this in the media. Like,

00:23:17.860 cause she was for, she did a, a Vogue cover and that's where this. No one will see that. Yeah.

00:23:22.320 No one reads Vogue. Okay. No one does read Vogue. But one of the things she said, uh, that would

00:23:27.580 really was so interesting is she says the only person I've really, um, gone there with, like talked

00:23:33.220 about this with is her therapist. And it's like, so you can't talk to your loving parents,

00:23:37.680 but you can tell Vogue that the only people you can talk to, even though you're literally

00:23:42.020 telling the entire world right now. So it's like, do you really need my sympathy? Because

00:23:46.480 I don't make $260 million. I don't feel bad for you. And she already has a kid and she's,

00:23:50.980 she's married to a tech guy. Yeah. Seems. Yeah. I don't know which guy, but he's rich. A Reddit guy.

00:23:56.660 So rich. Yeah. So it's like, boo hoo. And you have, and you think you're probably going to have

00:24:02.140 another kid. Like that's a privilege. Again, that's like a gift from God. So like, I don't feel bad for you.

00:24:07.420 You're a winner. You're a huge star. Your life is amazing. You have an amazing legacy. You're

00:24:12.020 choosing to retire before you tear an Achilles to have another baby to raise with your millions

00:24:17.200 of dollars. Yeah. Plus his millions. Possible billions. So shut up. You're good. You're doing

00:24:23.040 great girl. Yeah. I don't want to hear any more complaining from you. And she can still like,

00:24:27.960 she can still play tennis. Yeah. She like, she can teach high level athletes. She can coach and she

00:24:35.200 can get like her advertising deals. Like none of that's going away. Yeah. You're fine. And

00:24:39.600 you don't have to have the kid keep playing if you want to. My goodness. You know what?

00:24:43.180 The real reason she didn't tell her dad is because he would have been like, get your head

00:24:46.320 in the game. Serena. Does he say that in the movie? No. Oh, but that's from High School

00:24:51.520 Musical. Okay. It's all. Yeah. That's, that's where Nat's sports knowledge starts and stops.

00:24:57.200 It starts and stops at High School Musical. Troy Bolton's pretty. Anyway. Okay. Okay. We'll move on from

00:25:03.220 that. But Matt Walsh tweeted. Yeah. In true lib fashion, Serena Williams plays the victim

00:25:10.040 card and bizarrely says it's not fair that women have to do the physical labor of having

00:25:14.900 babies. And it's like, it's like, what, like, what do you mean fair? I think it's, I like

00:25:20.500 the way he summarizes it. I don't always agree with him, but. I always agree with every single

00:25:26.000 thing. Yeah. Because he's Matt Walsh. I'm just kidding. We are humans. That's a really

00:25:29.980 healthy. We are humans. She's a really healthy relationship with pundits. I would like to point

00:25:34.180 out. Yeah. They're gods. Yeah. I would like to point out that it's not fair that men have

00:25:39.800 the highest mortality rate at workplace incidences and that men are the number one victims of

00:25:46.200 murders and that men have, are the only ones that get drafted into war and that, I have another

00:25:52.060 one here. Oh yeah. They have to kill spiders. Ooh. Yeah. It's not fair. Ooh. It's not fair.

00:25:57.300 It's not fair. You know what else isn't fair? Life, Serena. And I don't have $260 million

00:26:01.640 to help make me get through my crappy life. If you would like to even out the playing field,

00:26:05.440 please send. Please donate. 200 and. Well, we'll take a million. Just a million. Each. We'll

00:26:10.980 take 100 million. We'll take 100. We'll split it. We'll split it though. And we'll be generous

00:26:15.600 with each other. And then we'll start complaining too. We'll be like, it's not fair. We want to

00:26:21.780 relate to you. So send us money, Serena. Please help us relate to you, Serena. All right.

00:26:25.000 Okay. All right. Speaking of relatable, what's more relatable than an actress who's worth like

00:26:31.320 $30 million, $35 million telling people to pay for their college age daughters to freeze their eggs so

00:26:40.200 that they can focus on their careers and then, and then be single moms when they grow up.

00:26:44.080 That's so relatable. I think. So relatable. Um, so Mindy Kaling, the writer, actress, and creator

00:26:50.800 promoted single motherhood in an interview released this month, adding her hope that parents should

00:26:55.060 pay for their college daughters to freeze their egg. She had her eggs frozen and became a single

00:26:59.580 mother in her late thirties. And she's currently single with two children. I would like to point

00:27:03.580 out two fatherless children. Yeah. I'd also like to point out that she has nannies. I think I would

00:27:09.480 assume because she is a millionaire and she is a producer and actor, no expert. But if I were a single mom

00:27:15.980 and I had millions of dollars, a mansion, a pool, Botox, a chef, probably nannies, a driver,

00:27:27.120 a driver. I think being a single mom would be flipping wonderful. I think it would be. Yeah.

00:27:31.520 It's so tone deaf of her to be like girls, everyone. She says every 19, I wish every 19 year old girl

00:27:37.720 would come home from college and that the gift instead of buying them jewelry or vacation or whatever

00:27:41.420 is their parents would, would take them to freeze their eggs. First of all,

00:27:45.240 not everyone comes home from college to a bunch of gifts, Mindy. Yeah. Just because I did,

00:27:53.940 because my parents were like, wow, you graduated. Oh my God. You did it. Yeah. I was extremely

00:27:58.640 privileged. Most people are not most like a lot of people either can't go to college or they have to

00:28:04.380 put themselves through college by working a bunch of jobs and there, there's no gifts waiting for them.

00:28:09.480 You're the 1%. Yeah. So I would like you to shoot up. Yeah. Shoot her. And it's like,

00:28:13.800 she talks about how kids are the best part of her life, but it's like, what, but is,

00:28:17.520 is the way you've done things the best for your kids? Cause it kind of feels like they were just

00:28:21.060 like puppies that you decided to order and then you picked them up when you were ready for them.

00:28:26.040 Exactly. That's like problem. It's like, it's all about like me, like when my life is ready for you

00:28:30.700 to be in it, then I can have children. It's like, okay. Without a dad,

00:28:35.480 without a dad, mind you. So, so you don't need to have a father in your life. No. And

00:28:41.700 I think like, this is, goes back to our earlier point. Like, can't women do it all? Like,

00:28:49.300 can't we go to school, have a job, have kids, be married? Yeah. It's like cutting our legs off.

00:28:56.180 Like you can't have a good career ladies. If you bother with children and all that. And like,

00:29:02.400 and like a husband and love, like it's so much better. We know this statistically. We've talked

00:29:08.720 about fatherlessness before on the show. Statistically kids have a way better chance

00:29:13.580 at not becoming drug addicts, not becoming violent, graduating from school, getting a good job

00:29:17.640 and having a stable family of their own if they have a father in the house. So she's literally saying

00:29:21.860 to all the, every 19 year old girl, don't worry about all of that. Just go and get your career,

00:29:27.460 climb your way up the ladder, pay your income tax. And then when you're 40 and you have millions of

00:29:33.600 dollars. And no partner. And no partner to help you. Then you can start raising your, your kids.

00:29:40.060 It's just the most egregious thing. Come on. And also I read an article about a woman who

00:29:44.700 did that. She froze her eggs, did her career. And then none of her eggs were viable when she was

00:29:51.600 ready for them because that is also a, and honestly, I'm glad it didn't happen to Mindy

00:29:56.300 Kaling. Cause I honestly think she'd be a great mom. Yeah. She's hilarious. I love her. I love her

00:29:59.980 too. I really do love the Mindy project and she was hilarious on The Office. It's my favorite show

00:30:03.040 ever. She's so funny. She's great. I think she'd be a great fun mom. So I'm glad that she has her

00:30:07.600 kids, but this woman was not so lucky and her eggs were not viable when she was ready for them.

00:30:12.660 And she said in the article, it was like, it was like for a major, it wasn't even for like a,

00:30:17.600 it was for a major news publication. I forget, but I'll try and find it. But she said, I regret

00:30:22.720 this. I wish I had just had kids when I could have. And now I have nothing except a long career.

00:30:29.840 Yeah. And there's obviously this huge, I don't know, weird narrative that they're trying to like

00:30:35.660 make it seem like kids are going to ruin your life. Yeah. And it's, I don't know if there's like a

00:30:41.020 agenda there, like depopulation and all that stuff. I don't know what the, what the reason

00:30:46.180 is, but it's like having kids is literally what we're born to do. We're born to get married,

00:30:50.820 have kids and reproduce. Like I'm talking like Elon here. Yikes. But, but it's like,

00:30:55.900 it's true. Neither, neither I have children yet, but so maybe, well, you're on your way.

00:30:59.960 I know. Maybe once my baby comes out, I'll be like, they're right.

00:31:02.760 Yeah. No, of course. My life is over. But it's a beautiful thing. And they're,

00:31:07.540 they don't want us to have that in a normal and functioning way for some reason. And I just don't

00:31:12.080 get it. And also your life is kind of not yours forever. Like if you want to just vacation and

00:31:21.180 party and shop. That's hella boring. It sounds like whatever to each their own. That's fine. But

00:31:26.760 like the way I see it personally, for me, it's like when I have my kid, maybe they will ruin my life as

00:31:32.100 it is now. I will start a new one. It's going to disrupt your life. Exactly. I will,

00:31:35.860 my, I will be reborn as a new person and that new life will be a lot harder and I'll get a lot less

00:31:41.180 sleep. So in a sense, they're ruining my life, but I'm like, I'm bringing them into the world. Like

00:31:48.220 their, their life is the important life now. And like, that's a beautiful, beautiful thing. And

00:31:51.920 like, again, I say this now, I say this now. Yeah. But I think, I mean, seven, I've been married for

00:31:57.660 three years, three and a half years. And now we're kind of like, we're kind of bored. It's

00:32:02.080 like, what's next? Like, we don't, I don't want to. There's only so many, there's only so many

00:32:06.060 restaurants. Yeah. And so many trips you can go on and you're like, eh, like, I think you're right.

00:32:10.660 Like we don't. Have a baby. Yeah. You know, but it's like, there's something kids, having kids is

00:32:15.740 obviously fulfilling in some way. In some way. And children are a gift. I'll let you know. Yeah. I

00:32:22.400 might be gifting my baby to you. But to that point, it's not, I'll take her or him, but it's not to say

00:32:28.280 that like having, like parents, being a parent isn't difficult. We, of course it's hard. Of

00:32:34.080 course. It's going to, it's going to ruin your life as it is right now. You will, like on Saturday,

00:32:38.700 I slept until 10 a.m. That's over. Like if I want to be like, I'm, my life is ruined. I can't

00:32:44.840 sleep until 10 a.m. and I can't stay up until 2 a.m. watching horror movies. Like, yeah. Yeah.

00:32:50.040 But it's going to be interesting and fun. It's going to be amazing. It's going to be a ride.

00:32:53.040 Little feet. And your kid's going to have a great dad. So. Yeah. Sorry, Mindy. Sorry. You

00:32:59.220 suck. Yeah. No, you don't. It's just a bad, it's just. It's a really bad take. But it's

00:33:02.480 a bad take and it's tone deaf and it's such a, it's such a celebrity thing. It's such a

00:33:06.580 privileged thing to say. It's such a privileged thing to say. And a secular thing to say.

00:33:10.080 And it's just, it's not working for me. No, it's not working. Anyway, this has been a lot

00:33:13.880 of. It's been fun. A lot of fun. A lot of girl talk. What are our takeaways? Our biggest

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Rebel News Podcast - August 23, 2022

Miss Understood No. 28 — Feminists： Just Shut Up

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