Rebel News Podcast - Miss Understood No. 29 — Bad Boys Get Banned

00:00:00.000 Hello, and welcome to Misunderstood, the show for the politically and culturally misunderstood

00:00:24.000 lady. We are your hosts. I am Nat, and I am Kat. Today, we are going to be talking about

00:00:36.580 the youngest trans model ever, I guess. We're going to talk about Joe Biden's forgiveness

00:00:46.140 of student loans, and we're going to talk about everybody's favorite misogynist, Andrew

00:00:52.220 Tate. But first, our patented culture shock of the moment. Take it away, Nat. Guys, this

00:00:59.920 is big, huge news. A really, really famous, wealthy, millionaire celebrity is oppressed

00:01:08.920 as hell. You guys, Lizzo, she mentioned at the VMAs on Sunday the something that she's

00:01:17.300 oppressed while accepting her award. Woo!

00:01:25.000 Read the room, Lizzo. Did you know that getting on a private plane was actually...

00:01:31.000 With your bare ass showing? It's the system of oppression. 1.00

00:01:33.960 Yes. She's being oppressed by getting on her private jet with her bare ass showing, and 1.00

00:01:38.860 then accepting an award. If that's oppression, I want it. Huge. I would love to be oppressed. 1.00

00:01:44.060 Yes. Oppress me! Yeah. Sounds like she's not, though. What is she talking about? Like, police

00:01:51.020 brutality? I don't even know. That's not what she said. Maybe we should just watch a clip

00:01:56.060 and hear it straight from the big fat horse's mouth. Your vote means everything to me. It means

00:02:04.720 everything to making a change in this country. So remember, when you're voting for your favorite

00:02:12.500 artist, vote to change some of these laws that are oppressing us.

00:02:17.760 What is she referring to? Abortion? The right to murder your baby? Your human baby? I'm sure

00:02:23.740 she's... Like, it's just so vague. It's so easy to be like, yep, sure. Oh, yeah. And it's

00:02:30.400 like, if you don't have anything smart to say, don't say it. No, but if you don't have anything

00:02:35.020 smart to say, just call yourself oppressed and people will cheer for you. I guess. On

00:02:38.240 the other hand. Maybe we should... I'm super oppressed. I am... Guys, if you don't agree,

00:02:46.900 you're oppressing her. You are oppressing me. Anyway, so Lizzo, super oppressed. And all you

00:02:54.440 middle-class hardworking folks... You're oppressing her. You're oppressing her. Stop it. Stop it. You

00:03:00.080 naughty little things. All righty. Okay. Should we talk about some student loan forgiveness?

00:03:07.160 Biden's student loan forgiveness and extension plan. What we know. Teen Vogue. So this will be good.

00:03:12.540 Yeah. So the Biden administration announced that they will forgive $10,000 in federal student loan

00:03:17.680 debt per borrower and $20,000 for borrowers who have received Pell Grants, which is a form of a

00:03:23.320 need-based federal financial aid that typically does not have to be repaid. And it's to help

00:03:27.420 eligible low-income students. So. Okay. So there's a lot here. There's a lot. This came out last week

00:03:35.800 and everyone has an opinion on it. And so do we. But it's also like a nuanced opinion, I think.

00:03:41.060 I think so too. Okay. Let's talk about maybe some of the criticisms of this from conservatives,

00:03:47.580 maybe. This is from Mitch McConnell, a Republican Senate minority leader who told reporters that the

00:03:52.900 president's move is a slap in the face to every family who sacrificed to save for college, every

00:03:57.480 graduate who paid their debt, and every American who chose a certain career path or volunteer to

00:04:01.400 serve in our armed forces in order to avoid taking on debt. There's been a few other criticisms.

00:04:08.320 So when I read this article from the Mises Institute, and it mentions like some pitfalls of

00:04:16.860 these kinds of debt relief programs. One is that it could potentially increase tuition costs,

00:04:23.660 because if colleges are like, oh, well, people are going to get 10 grand back from the government

00:04:28.600 anyways, why not increase tuition? And apparently they did some studies based on, because this is not

00:04:34.240 the first time that student debt has been like erased. Yeah, I think there's something in the 90s or

00:04:38.180 something. Yeah, exactly. So they did a bunch of, they did some studies, I will post the link, but

00:04:43.360 where they've, they've proven that this happens. So that's one potential pitfall. And then the other

00:04:50.140 one is like Nat just said, is the moral dilemma, where is it fair? And like, that's a, that's a fine

00:04:57.860 argument. If you pay off someone's debt, what's to say it doesn't encourage other people to just incur

00:05:03.780 debt, knowing that they'll never have to pay it back? Yeah. There's just so much to unpack here.

00:05:10.500 But apparently, if you nix $10,000 of debt per bar, or that would cost $290 billion in 2022,

00:05:17.040 and $329 billion by 2031, if the policy is renewed each year. So that's a lot of money. So

00:05:23.000 what happens when the government spends a lot of money? Well, doesn't that raise the cost of living

00:05:28.460 in general as well? That would result in inflation, which is another fear that many people have.

00:05:32.600 Yeah. And apparently less than 32% of the funding would benefit Americans in the two lowest income

00:05:38.600 quintiles, while 42% would benefit those earning more than $82,000 per year. So who's to say that

00:05:44.360 like someone who's already making decent money is going to exploit this system? Fair enough. However,

00:05:51.600 there's a bunch of arguments for it. And we, and like, to just mentioning it now, because

00:05:56.780 you just mentioned $82,000 a year. That's not a lot of money. No, it's not. These days,

00:06:01.560 like in America, it is because maybe the cost of living there is a lot cheaper than it is in Canada,

00:06:06.440 depending on your state and city, of course, like I'm sure New York City, that's not a lot of money.

00:06:10.400 Right. It's a good point. Yeah. But in Canada, $80,000 is not a lot of money. No. So there are

00:06:19.480 arguments against this. And like Nat has said, a lot of conservatives are taking the stand and a lot of

00:06:24.820 Christians I've seen, like Allie Beth Stuckey, make comments about how like, this is unbiblical. I 0.91

00:06:33.400 don't really remember exactly what she said. Yeah, I can, we can talk about that a little bit later.

00:06:37.160 Yeah. But the arguments for, so I will, I'd just like to start by like a personal note is,

00:06:44.520 we live in Canada, and our universities are already subsidized by the government. So if I got a

00:06:49.160 philosophy degree, which I did, I get a philosophy degree in Canada, it costs a lot less money than

00:06:54.000 it does to get that in the United States. So for any Canadian to be like, oh, that's atrocious, 1.00

00:06:58.100 is kind of a little bit silly, because we already get subsidized schooling. And personally, my parents

00:07:04.980 paid for my school. So it would be really, really hypocritical of me to be critical of this,

00:07:11.760 this policy, and I know how it feels to be in debt. So if someone was like, hey, Catherine,

00:07:17.280 I'm going to wipe your debt, or give you $10,000, like which, you know, that would be lovely. And I

00:07:23.000 would say, yes, please, sir. I agree. See, I'm torn on this subject, because I don't want inflation. And

00:07:28.940 I don't like it when the government intervenes. I'm very into as little government as possible. But

00:07:34.320 when you're 18 years old, especially when we were growing up, there was a lot of pressure to go to

00:07:38.720 university, because either our parents had never been, or all of our educators and everyone in our life

00:07:43.780 was romanticizing this experience. Most of us went to university and did not know what the hell we

00:07:48.880 wanted to do. But we were pushed. Exactly. I would study theater. Okay, we were pushed to go,

00:07:53.860 because that's just the normal thing to do. So of course, you're going to go and you're going to

00:07:57.900 take your first couple years figuring it out, spending your student loan debt. And then you're

00:08:02.200 by year three, you're a little more mature, you're a little older, you maybe figured it out if you

00:08:06.440 haven't gone down the women's studies route. And then it's like, well, it's not really your fault,

00:08:11.360 because you're, you go from being a kid who has everything handed to them in high school out into

00:08:15.880 the free world where you're supposed to make a huge decision for yourself. So I think people

00:08:20.120 should sympathize with that a little bit, because these are young, impressionable kids,

00:08:23.400 and they're being forced to do something that they have no understanding of the future consequences.

00:08:27.640 Yes. So exactly. There's so much societal pressure, especially from like, schools, like you just said,

00:08:33.440 in my school, I wanted to go to film school. Right. And my, my vice principal was like, no,

00:08:38.660 you have to go to university because we want our, like all of our graduates to go to university.

00:08:43.020 And like, he was a wonderful man, but I would have been, been way better off because that's

00:08:47.520 now what I'm doing. Yeah. I would have been way better off going to film school right out of high

00:08:51.480 school. And also in the States, and I'm not sure if it's the same for Canada, probably is,

00:08:58.580 student loans are the only type of loan that you can't clear through bankruptcy. So you can buy

00:09:04.120 too many horses and go bankrupt. Whoopsie. Whoopsies. And then have, you give back your

00:09:09.820 horses, you, you declare bankruptcy and your debt is clear and you live your life. And in a couple

00:09:14.780 of years, you can build yourself back up again. Student loans take, you take those to the grave.

00:09:18.920 Yeah. This author of his Buzzfeed article referred to it as an albatross around the necks of loanees

00:09:24.720 who are barely treading water, working to repay what they owe with no hope of getting ahead.

00:09:29.020 Because another, I think, argument for the loan repayment could be that middle, the middle class

00:09:36.220 is being completely eradicated in North America right now. So when someone exits university and

00:09:40.600 they get a job in marketing, let's say, for example, they're not necessarily going to be

00:09:45.460 able to make meets end. No. So I think that's something that it's really severely lacking from

00:09:50.860 the conservative side where they aren't being sympathetic to that element. It's not like when

00:09:55.260 her parents grew up, we've talked about this before, when your mom became a teacher,

00:09:57.920 she was making a lot more money. Well, she actually became a teacher later in life. 1.00

00:10:01.400 Right. When she graduated university, she paid her $300 rent. No problem. Because she was 0.78

00:10:07.260 making about what I made at my first job, but that was in the seventies. Right. And her rent 1.00

00:10:11.100 was $300. Must be nice. Yeah. What's rent now? Like $15 million a month? $300 is your hydro

00:10:17.080 and your heat for the month. It's crazy. Exactly. Another argument for it is that universities

00:10:22.380 in the United States profit billions of dollars a year. Not every single one, but the main ones,

00:10:27.020 the fancy ones. That's a great point. And no one wants to hold them accountable. Exactly. That's

00:10:30.640 the thing. So is the government the villain here or is it the universities who are literally,

00:10:34.940 and that's profit. That's not gross income. That's not like, oh, they take it in, but they

00:10:38.540 put it back and all the, no, they're literally net profiting billions of dollars a year, every

00:10:44.720 year. Well, and don't you think one way to combat this, these high prices is maybe to not

00:10:49.540 force kids to take so many stupid electives to get a degree? Like, why did I need to do art history 0.99

00:10:54.760 if I'm trying to become a scientist or something like that? Or why did I need to take computer

00:10:58.400 science if I was in art history or philosophy? Exactly. And then you have to buy the textbook.

00:11:04.880 Right. Which usually is written by the professor, so that's a nice little bonus. And also it makes

00:11:10.120 you stay in the school longer. So if you're going to be in residence or you're renting a house or

00:11:13.720 you're on a meal plan, all of that stuff adds up. Yeah. That's a great point I hadn't actually

00:11:18.080 thought about. I think one solution would just be to better equip our kids to guide them in a better

00:11:24.320 direction. Like if they don't know what they want to study, don't go to university. Don't,

00:11:28.080 don't incur debt that you won't be able to pay back. But again, like on the flip side of that,

00:11:33.880 a lot of, apparently a lot of conservatives have come out saying that a lot of people actually can

00:11:39.420 repay the loans. And these are the same people who are, you know, out there buying their avocado

00:11:44.340 toast and their skims. And it's like, well, you could also make some lifestyle adjustments. I mean,

00:11:48.700 I still have student debt that I'm paying off. And I think you can find a balance between paying it off

00:11:53.580 and living your life. But if you're screaming and crying about your student loans, but you're,

00:11:57.580 you know, out at SACS on the weekend, like maybe makes it hard to sympathize with your case.

00:12:03.020 Yeah. I think it's a lifestyle thing, like a societal thing where we're pushing people

00:12:06.740 to go into universities and colleges to get a woman's studies degree. Exactly. Then they're going 1.00

00:12:12.840 to come out into the workforce and be like, who wants to hire me? And everyone's like nobody. And

00:12:17.840 then they're like, oh, but I'm still going to like, you want to live your life. So you're still

00:12:21.740 going to go out for your stinking avocado toast that costs $30 with your friends and complain 0.76

00:12:26.240 about your student debt. Like I totally see that as well. It's like our, our parents didn't go out 0.99

00:12:31.980 for brunch. That was not a thing. So while my mom's rent was a lot cheaper and the cost of living was

00:12:37.580 a lot cheaper, like smarter with her money. We, yeah, our, our generation is just like, oh,

00:12:41.860 I have no money, but I also bought a $6 latte. That's me. It's because we pursue pleasure.

00:12:46.400 Like we, we, we need to do things that make us feel expedient. It's so true. Yeah. And it's about

00:12:52.360 status too. And going to university is a status thing. Like if you don't go to university, it's

00:12:56.060 like, oh, what are you stupid? It's like, no, actually I'm going to go into trades and make 1.00

00:12:59.500 six figures in two years. Yeah. It's so true. And like, that's the thing. Like I, I believe in

00:13:04.740 personal responsibility. So your life is your fault to an extent. Like you have to, you have to hold

00:13:09.620 yourself accountable because that's the only way you can pull yourself up by the bootstraps and make

00:13:13.500 something of your life, you know? Um, but I think maybe we should touch on that argument,

00:13:18.440 the Christian argument. Um, so there was a viral meme that said, if you're a Christian and you're

00:13:24.820 big mad about the possibility of student loan debt being canceled, let me remind you that the

00:13:29.200 entirety of your faith is built upon a debt you couldn't pay, uh, that someone stepped in and

00:13:33.900 paid for you. So this is something Allie Best Ducky. It's a bit of a stretch. It's a bit of a stretch 1.00

00:13:38.480 because God made flesh and voluntarily sacrificed himself to pay the debt of our sins, which we

00:13:44.960 could never pay. So this would be forcing the transfer of debt onto taxpayers who, it's not,

00:13:53.000 it's not the country's job to pay for your debt. It would be like if there were like a million

00:13:56.700 people and then there's like a hundred Jesuses and they're like, we're going to sacrifice these 1.00

00:14:01.220 hundred Jesuses to make these people. It's like, well, that's not your choice. First of all, 0.99

00:14:05.480 like it's, it's such a, it's a, it's a false equivalency, I would think. Yeah, I think it is

00:14:10.180 too because the government, okay. So one of the things she said was loans are not canceled or

00:14:16.200 forgiven. Uh, they would be absorbed by the taxpayer. Student loan debt forgiveness is a

00:14:21.740 forcible transfer of wealth from the working class. According to WAPO, the plan will most benefit people 0.85

00:14:26.740 in the top 60% of income distribution. Brookings Institute found that 50% of all outstanding debt in

00:14:32.580 the USA is owed by grad students. So those are those lifetime students who are the worst kind 1.00

00:14:37.460 of people. Cause you're just getting a PhD in women's studies. We all know it. Like it's like, 0.93

00:14:42.000 you're just not ready to leave and become an adult. Well, I felt that too. Like, did you feel that when

00:14:46.680 you were like leaving university and you're like, Oh, what now? Like I was, I was pretty stressed.

00:14:50.980 And I went to college right after university to study more and it was a lot cheaper. Um, and it worked

00:14:56.920 during it because my parents were like, you're done. Yeah. But, um, it was, it was very intimidating

00:15:03.100 and I can understand why some people are like, I'm just going to stay in university and get my

00:15:06.740 master's. It's true. But when you're 35 and they're all 18 and those are your peers, it might

00:15:11.500 be time to just move on. For sure. You, that's the thing. Like we don't need more schooling. We don't

00:15:17.160 need more intellectual people just like actually like that's why that's colonial and racist. Like we

00:15:23.800 don't need more of that. And that's what university is pretty much teaching. And like, I would argue

00:15:27.220 if you're not studying like STEM, don't go. Yeah, exactly. Like don't go. Law for sure.

00:15:35.700 I agree because I mean, we're pretty well self-made. Like we just worked. I mean, we're obviously the

00:15:41.440 most successful people. I was pretty spoiled. Like I, I had to learn in my twenties how to manage my

00:15:47.340 money. And when my parents were like you, like you, but you didn't send you to university and now you

00:15:51.940 have to figure it out. Like I was spoiled until a point and now it took me through my twenties to be

00:15:57.680 like, Oh my God, like life is tough. But you figured it out and you worked hard and you've

00:16:02.500 gotten to where you are because of that is my point. Like I dropped out of university. I got a

00:16:08.000 job in advertising and I worked my way up and now I'm here. Like you can do it. And I think that's

00:16:12.000 actually the smartest thing. You go to school to get a job. Why not just get a job, get the job,

00:16:16.000 just get the job, start at the bottom. There are so many people that I know who took two

00:16:19.940 year courses at colleges and who are way ahead of me in their careers now. Like I'm catching up and

00:16:24.460 I love my job and I have built the skills to do what I want to do, but I could have done those

00:16:29.860 things a lot sooner. A lot sooner. No, I totally feel that. Not gone to university. Although that's

00:16:33.620 where I met my husband. Oh yeah. I'm taking my pen out now. That's sweet. I know. Got to take out the

00:16:38.340 pen. He's had a pen in my hair, but it's bothering me. Okay. Anyway, I think that this is a very

00:16:44.000 nuanced. It's nuanced. And I don't think it's necessarily black and white, but I don't think

00:16:50.580 that the taxpayer should be forced to pay back another person's debt. I don't believe in forcing

00:16:55.240 that on other people. Yeah. That's where it's tough. Yeah. Cause I do empathize. And I was like,

00:16:59.340 if you can fix someone's life, if someone is like still paying back their debt and it's,

00:17:04.240 they have like 20 more years to pay it and you can cut that in half for them. That's such a nice

00:17:08.720 thing to do. But at the same time, it's at the, it's at the strong hand of the law. Yeah. Forcing

00:17:14.220 that on people who are also struggling. Like if taxes go up or if inflation increases and keeps

00:17:21.420 going up, it's like, now you're hurting everybody. Yeah. Including yourself. Yeah. So it's really only

00:17:25.800 temporary satisfaction or temporary alleviation from a problem. That's just going to follow you

00:17:31.240 your whole life. And it sucks, but I don't know, get a second job. Well, I think that we kind of hit 0.87

00:17:36.940 it before where it's like the universities should be held accountable. They should be like,

00:17:41.000 I don't know what the answer is, but if you're paying 120 grand for a degree, that's only going

00:17:46.740 to get you a job that pays 60 grand for the next five years. Like maybe the university should fix

00:17:51.280 that somehow. Yeah. And I think start get catching kids earlier. So they have a better, a more clear

00:17:56.900 path about what they maybe want to pursue and maybe get an understanding of what they will make out

00:18:01.660 of university. If that is a degree that will transfer to a proper skill in the workforce,

00:18:06.940 you know? And don't let high schools or like teachers and administrators pressure you into

00:18:12.280 going. Or your parents. Or your parents or anyone pressure you into going to school when it's not

00:18:16.440 what, A, they're going to try and indoctrinate you into crazy leftist ideals. And B, if you need it

00:18:23.420 for the degree, for the job that you want, like let's build yourself, like let's sift through the

00:18:29.260 people who are just going to go and who actually need to be there and then help those people be there.

00:18:33.840 But like someone, like you said, like getting their master's and their doctorate in women's 1.00

00:18:37.960 studies, like maybe you don't need to be there. No. There's like Reddit threads for that,

00:18:43.340 I'm sure. Yeah, exactly. You know? Anyway. Anyways. Shall we move on? Let's move on. I think we've

00:18:50.100 offended enough people. Or have we? Probably not. We're about to. We're about to. Whoa. This is

00:18:56.240 another fun one. This will be fun. This is, we're going to have fun with this. Always super fun.

00:18:59.960 Yeah. Okay. Okay. So 10-year-old celebrated as youngest transgender model on New York Fashion

00:19:05.820 Week runway. You guys may recognize this face. We talked about this child months ago. On our

00:19:12.180 fourth episode of Misunderstood. So it was like a million years ago. That was like a million years

00:19:16.040 ago. And once again, culture catches up with Misunderstood. Yeah. We're always ahead of the

00:19:22.320 curve. Yeah. It seems like it. So here's a little excerpt from the article. Current Guardians,

00:19:27.520 Randy McMayor told the publication that Noella, a biological male, began socially transitioning

00:19:33.860 at the age of four. Both parents identify as non-binary per Noella's Instagram account. Okay.

00:19:39.180 Ooh. All right. Let's just, there's a lot to unpack in that first article. That's the first

00:19:43.000 sentence. Doozy. So first of all, a 10-year-old should not have an Instagram account. Nope.

00:19:49.200 All right. Probably ran by their parents, which is also weird because they're talking about

00:19:54.680 their own identities through her Instagram account. And okay. Socially transitioning at

00:20:00.160 four. She started, it says later in the article that she began expressing gender dysphoria at 0.54

00:20:05.200 the age of two. Well, but how?

00:20:07.700 She just didn't want to wear boy clothes. She just had tantrums about putting on clothes. 1.00

00:20:12.820 Oh, I wonder if other children have done that. No child has ever done that. Have you ever seen a kid

00:20:16.600 in their Halloween costume at the grocery store and it's not even close to Halloween? Yeah.

00:20:21.020 I used to wear a tea towel on my head because my mom kept my hair really short and I wore

00:20:25.380 a tea towel to have long hair. She could have been like, she has hair dysphoria. She needs 1.00

00:20:29.800 surgical implants in her brain for more hair. Well, that would have been the logical and loving 1.00

00:20:34.460 response by your mother. Yep. Yep. Right. So two years old, four years old. That's not gender dysphoria.

00:20:43.600 That's just childhood. And so it doesn't seem like the parents have pushed an agenda on their

00:20:48.180 kid. The two non-binary parents who like to advertise, like if they're non-binary and they 0.57

00:20:53.240 were just like, that's in the privacy of my own heart and our relationship. But like, no,

00:20:57.280 they're advertising that on Instagram through their child's Instagram account. So the child

00:21:01.320 is obviously aware of it. And like we've said before on the show, children want to impress and

00:21:06.700 please their parents. So I'm non-binary and my kid is going to be like, oh, I'm non-binary too,

00:21:13.720 mom. Do you love me now? And I'll be like, yes, Noella. I finally love you because you're special.

00:21:19.560 You don't want to wear those boy clothes. Let's straight to the gender clinic. That's what they 1.00

00:21:23.400 did. She said she, she had a tantrum every time they tried to put her, the him, it in, in boy clothes.

00:21:30.720 So they took him to the clinic. So instead of just getting the kid

00:21:32.960 less masculine clothes, like you can do it. I wore blue when I was a kid. I loved blue and

00:21:38.720 tacky shorts. I loved baseball caps. Like that's okay. Before doing that, they took the child to

00:21:45.600 the gender clinic and they started socially transitioning two years later. And I mean,

00:21:50.520 further evidence that they are not pushing an agenda on their child is that they also have

00:21:56.520 another child, which they call a baby. They call their baby, their human baby, a baby because their

00:22:03.720 baby is actually also non-binary. Did you know that babies can choose their gender? Can't talk, 1.00

00:22:10.960 need help cleaning up their shit, literally, but they can choose their gender. You must be so excited 1.00

00:22:21.060 to be a mom.

00:22:21.920 These people are messed up. Yes. And the child needs to be thoroughly examined. Yes. And it's

00:22:33.560 unfortunate because now this young model will have gender surgery at the age of 16, which they've 0.97

00:22:39.960 already, it's like, so what? Six years from now, you have no idea how they're going to feel in six

00:22:44.500 years, but you've already decided for them. 16 is so young. You're still a child. You're a child.

00:22:49.900 Goodness gracious. Goodness gracious. Goodness gracious. And I guess the, the kid can only get

00:22:54.460 the surgery with the parents' consent. Or is it, or is it one of those places like in Canada where

00:23:00.280 the kid can just say it and the parents would get arrested if they try to. I'm sure there's a part

00:23:04.480 of, there's an element of that, but let's just, another thing on the parents. Uh, D. McMahar,

00:23:12.520 whatever, appears to be on hormone replacement therapy and recently had a cosmetic mastectomy.

00:23:17.840 Both she and her current partner are females who identify as trans masculine.

00:23:27.620 Like seriously pray for these children. Honestly. Like, Oh, what are the chances? It's just a pure

00:23:32.280 coincidence that the child is trans. Yeah. Just a coincidence. And let's say their little baby,

00:23:38.480 their baby grows up and it's also decides, decides that they're trans. What, what are the statistics

00:23:43.780 that you have two children who end up being transgender? I feel like. Under parents that 1.00

00:23:47.760 are transgender. Exactly. Like, come on. Like you're obviously influencing this kid. Yes. And I think 0.93

00:23:53.000 that's disgusting and abusive. In our previous conversation about this child, Noella, we kind

00:23:59.700 of focused on the fact that they're modeling. And. As a toddler. As a toddler. Well, 10 year olds

00:24:06.140 not a toddler, but I don't, I don't know when they started modeling. Pretty young, I think. I think it was

00:24:09.600 younger than 10, but anyway, 10 is still too young. 10 is super young. And we equated it to like those

00:24:14.940 like dance troupes of little girls, like who wear like belly tops and like fake eyelashes. And it's

00:24:18.640 like. Tans. Yeah. And tans and like toddlers and tiaras. And that's wrong too. Cause that's what

00:24:23.640 people are like, well, if you're okay with that, you should be. I'm not. We're not. Yeah. We're not.

00:24:27.160 It's gross. And you know why? Cause it's exploiting your children. It's exploiting children. And it's 1.00

00:24:30.400 over-sexualizing children. Children can dance without showing their midriffs. In front of adults. What's the 0.97

00:24:35.520 room? Like who are they dancing in front of? Who are the judges? Yeah. Who is this, this child

00:24:39.260 runwaying in front of? It's adults. Yeah, exactly. And who's in the back room changing them? Adults.

00:24:44.400 Putting on their makeup. Like being like, oh, you did great, sweetie. And like the fact,

00:24:47.640 like one of the quotes is like, oh, did I write it down? It was something like, oh, Noella

00:24:52.300 really knows how to work the room. It's like, she's 10. He or she, whatever. Yeah. Is 10 years

00:25:00.700 old. They shouldn't be working a room. Like, no, unless it's just with their charm and like

00:25:06.600 telling funny stories, like telling jokes and doing like a dance routine with their clothes

00:25:10.940 on. Yeah. They shouldn't be like wearing midriffs and heavy, heavy makeup, walking around and 0.63

00:25:17.120 then going backstage. Cause you, you know, I'm not a model, but I've seen the shows and they

00:25:23.280 just strip back there. They just, because there's no time. You gotta go, gotta go, gotta go. So

00:25:27.520 you're just taking your clothes off. And it's like, that is so not a place for a child to

00:25:31.320 be. Nevermind a gender confused child. Nevermind one who has two gender confused parents who 0.73

00:25:35.960 are pressuring them and, and exploiting them and profiting off of them because whatever

00:25:40.880 this kid is getting paid, those parents are taking. Oh, for sure. It must be really, really

00:25:45.600 wonderful for them to be able to market their child, their rare, special, unique child. And

00:25:50.940 of course the dad is not in the picture. Uh, this Noella's biological dad. And I blame him 0.60

00:25:56.700 too. I do as well. Uh, Timothy McCord. Um, he's apparently has no say in Noella's life

00:26:03.540 and he was apparently resistant to his ex-wife's transit, uh, transition of their child. Like,

00:26:09.660 why isn't he like, uh, he did lose custody. Ah, but, but why though? Like maybe he's a, 0.50

00:26:14.580 he's a shitty person. So apparently he lost custody because he was trying to get Noella into 0.99

00:26:19.520 boys pajamas and it hurt Noella's arm. So the moms, I think, I don't know the truth. No one

00:26:26.640 knows the truth, but the mom allegedly blew things out of proportion. And then, uh, that was kind

00:26:32.300 of ultimately where what resulted in him losing custody. So like he, you don't, you should not

00:26:36.800 use force. No, you talk to the kid. And like, if the kid wants to wear girls pajamas for a couple 0.76

00:26:41.100 of years, let them like, you don't need jammies. It's jammies. Who cares? Yeah. Like even if the

00:26:46.320 kid wants to walk around in girls clothing as a little boy for a couple of years, like let them 0.99

00:26:51.360 don't affirm it, you know? Yeah, exactly. Let them figure it out. You don't need to change their

00:26:55.340 name. You don't need to put them like through gender surgery at 16 years old. And the dad made

00:27:02.180 him clearly. It sounds like he made a mistake in trying to force the kid because the kid,

00:27:06.300 it was uncomfortable for the child and trying to overpower him. And whether or not he hurt his

00:27:09.840 arm, it's like, you're, it's still not, you're not being empathetic. Like just let him wear his

00:27:13.600 jammies. Who cares? And as he grows and changes, this child will figure out who they are.

00:27:18.300 Yeah. It's hard when they're like, obviously I'm assuming mom has had custody before maybe. So

00:27:25.380 this is the only chance he gets to maybe speak truth to his son. I don't know. Like, yeah,

00:27:30.500 it's, I, I sympathize, but there's a way to do it without like shoving a kid in pajamas and making

00:27:35.220 them cry. It's like, it's just so hard because like the government is just so against anyone who

00:27:40.700 pushes back against this gender ideology and you cannot win. Like they, they just cannot win against 1.00

00:27:46.440 the state. So a mom gets to say, yes, this is the truth. And dad's basically just left in the lurch

00:27:51.840 and he cannot, he cannot oppose his son. Yeah. Like he can't do anything about it. And like the

00:27:56.940 government is, the government ain't going to help him. Like it's just so sad. And when Noella is 16,

00:28:03.760 what if that child regrets what they did? And the, and the dad is like, I tried, like, I tried to tell

00:28:10.760 you maybe didn't go about it in the best way, but it's like in a couple of years when that kid's like

00:28:15.100 18 or 20, like I genuinely hope that they actually suffered gender dysphoria at this point, because

00:28:21.140 if they're going to go through this and, and have a surgery and take hormones, there's no coming back

00:28:27.120 from it. So just a walking experiment. I genuinely hope that this person is completely invested in this

00:28:32.940 new identity and not just that it's, uh, I just don't think they could know as a child. I agree.

00:28:39.400 I agree. But I hope that they grow into it. I hope that it sticks because like you're getting the

00:28:43.840 surgery. Yeah. I don't know. I just, this is just, I think the biggest crisis. It's so sad. It's just a

00:28:49.960 huge crisis. And the more tension that this kid gets, the more like people cheer and like, oh,

00:28:54.440 you work in the room, Noella? That is not going to decrease the likelihood of this kid getting the

00:28:59.280 surgery. And it's not going to let this child figure out who they are on their own. On their

00:29:02.860 own without, without being. They need to go to like a camp. Yeah. They need to be in the wilderness.

00:29:06.760 A Christian camp. Yeah. They need to go to like a wilderness Christian retreat. Yeah. And like,

00:29:11.460 and like make a fire and like talk to God and like, if they, if after that and they're 18 and they grow

00:29:17.240 up and they're like, you know what? I still want to do it. Like what? Okay. What do I, I have nothing to

00:29:21.340 say about it, but they're so far from 18. It's not even, they're 10. Yeah. And at this point, I think it's just

00:29:26.980 abuse. These parents are abusing their child and it's yucky. And I, it's just so infuriating that 0.72

00:29:35.180 people are, that they hate children so much. Yes. You know, speaking of infuriating, let's talk

00:29:42.460 about Andrew Tate. Who's that? Who is that? Who is that? Honestly, I didn't know who this person was.

00:29:48.720 Me either. But apparently girls are breaking up with their boyfriends because of him. So, um,

00:29:53.800 in doing like very, very preliminary research. Um, he was a kickboxer and he was on season 17,

00:30:01.440 a big brother and got kicked off after a video surface of him beating a girl with a belt,

00:30:06.300 which later on turns out that she says it was consensual and like they were like dating or

00:30:11.740 something. So no, there was no charges against him at the time. Um, he then started a webcam company

00:30:16.900 and paid women. I don't even know if he paid them actually. I wrote paid women, but they lived, 0.99

00:30:21.660 they worked for him. They worked for him and they lived in his house and they were cam girls 0.99

00:30:26.200 and they exploited men by like telling them that their dad was sick. And like, can you please send

00:30:30.840 me more money? I need like extra cash. And then that money would end up going to Andrew Tate.

00:30:35.120 And that's how it became a millionaire. Yes. Um, he has several allegations of sexual assault,

00:30:40.340 rape, and an investigation that took place in early 2022 over the possibilities of track

00:30:44.740 trafficking after a 21 year old American woman told authorities that Tate, Tate, the Tate brothers

00:30:49.300 kidnapped her. So him and his brother, Tristan, I think his name is worked together. So there's

00:30:53.740 two of them. There's two of these wonderful men. Um, there's this famous quote of his that people

00:30:59.440 are saying, uh, passing around. He said, I'm not a rapist, but I like the idea of being able to just

00:31:04.500 do what I want. I like being free. Okay. Okay. So that sounds like an upstanding. Yeah. So my take on

00:31:13.880 Andrew Tate, which I had to think about it. Cause at first I would take the Tate take, uh, at first

00:31:19.780 I was like appalled naturally, you know, still sort of am. He sounds like a real arsehole, a real 0.99

00:31:28.120 arsehole. He does not sound like a nice person. Doesn't sound like he'd be a good dad. Doesn't 0.99

00:31:31.860 sound like a good Christian. He sounds like a dick. Um, however, just because I and other people 1.00

00:31:38.280 think he's a dick, does that mean that he should be banned from social media? And that's kind of the 0.98

00:31:42.840 question because recently, um, our next article is from Buzzfeed news. Twitter is full of memes of

00:31:47.700 Andrew Tate being banned from different places. The memes are stupid. They're all the same meme. 1.00

00:31:51.620 They're literally the, they're not funny. They're the same meme just with different photos. But, um,

00:31:56.780 I don't think that he should be banned from social media. I don't think that banning someone who you

00:32:03.140 disagree with is a smart idea because if this person is spewing poison into the world, we should at

00:32:08.920 least be aware of it. Well, especially cause it's like social media sites are so quick to

00:32:12.800 ban this person, but there's so many creeps and groomers online that just get to run free and

00:32:17.780 indoctrinate your children. So it's, and it's not to defend this person because I do think he's

00:32:21.600 creepy. Yeah. I mean, we should go through maybe some of the things he said and he has rules for

00:32:26.620 women, um, which are always, that's what we want as women in society rules. Um, so here's just a 1.00

00:32:33.120 couple of them if we want to, uh, it's absolutely disrespectful for a woman to be with a man and then 1.00

00:32:37.820 want to run around with her girls and pretend she's still single. So I think he means going 0.79

00:32:42.040 out for boozy brunch with your girlfriends. Is that what it, I don't know. Um, leave brunch out

00:32:46.900 of it, sir. Yeah. Leave brunch out of it. Um, a man can only cheat if he loves someone else.

00:32:52.940 This is a good one. Yeah. He said having sex with another woman is just exercise. 0.99

00:32:58.200 So rude. Yeah. Don't date him. That's my advice. I don't date him. Don't date this guy and don't, 1.00

00:33:05.880 maybe don't hang out with him. Don't hang out with him. Maybe, you know, if you're a girl,

00:33:08.640 um, so apparently girls are breaking up with their boyfriends because, um, their boyfriends

00:33:14.640 like Andrew Tate. They like Andrew Tate and there's some TikTok trend going around where

00:33:18.960 girls ask their boyfriends if they know who he is and, uh, if they follow him or listen to him or

00:33:24.800 whatever, they are dumping him, which seems a bit unreasonable. Like maybe your relationship is a

00:33:29.500 little more stable than that. Maybe you're an idiot for a dating someone who's so like, who 1.00

00:33:34.720 is, idolizes an internet person. Yeah. Like he's not God. He's not God. He's not. He's not. He should 1.00

00:33:42.400 be idolizing the one true Lord. Maybe. Um, that's really embarrassing because he's like a reality show

00:33:48.140 guy who like exploits women. So like, it's like if we were obsessed with Paris Hilton and we were

00:33:52.880 like, she is the end all be all. I'm going to do whatever she says. Yeah, exactly. Whatever she does.

00:33:58.020 I'm going to do a sex tape. I'm going to do like, exactly. And men would be so quick to criticize 1.00

00:34:02.720 any woman who like, like, you know, blindly followed a celebrity. But yet when men do it, 0.55

00:34:08.700 it's like, yeah, it's embarrassing. So if you're, if your man idolizes him in an actual, like, I,

00:34:14.440 like idolizes him, then y'all have a problem. Um, also if your boyfriend is a super misogynist and

00:34:19.800 is abusing you, you also have a problem and that wouldn't blame Andrew Tate for that. Yeah. 0.87

00:34:24.000 It's kind of on him and on you for being with him. Personal responsibility. Yeah. A little bit of that.

00:34:27.560 A little bit of that. I mean, but it kind of speaks to the fact that in our society, people are so

00:34:31.720 lost and purposeless. Um, so, you know, women, we get caught up in like the self-love movement and

00:34:37.000 all that. And, but with men, I think there's like positivity. Exactly. And so when men, when it comes

00:34:42.660 to masculinity, it's kind of like, it's just, it can go so far to the other side where it becomes

00:34:49.160 toxic. And we know that there's an attack on men in our society. And this is what is produced from

00:34:54.260 that. Right. It's, it's because these bad actors are, they have a big following and they're setting

00:35:00.080 a bad example for men. Um, and I guess with so many young people being unsupervised on the internet,

00:35:05.760 it, it's become even more of a problem. And we've seen that in the transgender movement with young 1.00

00:35:09.820 girls on Tumblr and all those things. Yeah. It's, it's literally like, he's like the male version of

00:35:15.280 like an eco-feminist who's like, I'm not going to have children because the earth is going to be burnt 0.98

00:35:19.060 down in 30 years. It's like, that's toxic. Yeah. And he's toxic and both are very stupid,

00:35:24.620 but it's just funny because I feel like women are playing into this where they're like, I saw there 1.00

00:35:30.080 was an, uh, a video on sky news where this like author of something about like internet misogyny

00:35:35.500 or dangers of avoiding internet, something or other. Um, she calls Andrew Tate and his followed

00:35:39.500 followers incels. Oh, which is totally a misrepresentation because he's a womanizer. 0.98

00:35:45.180 Yeah. You literally can't be a womanizer and an involuntary celibate at the same time. Like, 0.92

00:35:49.820 it's just like, this girl is on the news and she's completely like, I, I did authority. I did

00:35:55.620 two seconds of research and I'm like, well, he's not an incel. Like he has girlfriends. He exploits

00:36:00.320 women. That's not an incel. My, my love, my precious angel. Um, and it kind of gets confusing

00:36:05.380 and it, and it's what happened to Trump. Yeah. It's so true. You start calling him an incel and all

00:36:10.460 these horrible things. And it's really hard. It's like not saying, I think it's very confusing

00:36:14.620 and really hard to pick out the truth. He's a jerk. Yeah. And he's not an incel. And the thing 1.00

00:36:20.140 is, if this person is as horrible as the internet claims he is, then that's good. And we should want

00:36:25.520 to call that out. But I think we should be reasonable because we don't want to, we don't

00:36:28.680 want to spread misinformation. All you progressives out there hate misinformation. That's what she's 1.00

00:36:32.960 doing. Yeah. Like we need the fact checkers on these lefties, you know? And I think like,

00:36:37.400 I've heard Joe Rogan say this and I'm sure he didn't come up with it, but it's like,

00:36:39.960 you got to fight bad ideas with good ideas. Yeah. So if, if we ban Andrew Tate from the

00:36:44.760 internet, we don't know what crap he's spewing anymore. What you need to do is if you actually

00:36:49.060 think that Andrew Tate is trafficking women or raping women, like keep an eye on him.

00:36:53.620 Definitely. The, the, the powers that be should definitely be keeping an eye on him and watching

00:36:59.380 what he does. And the second that he commits a crime, it'll be a lot easier to tell what

00:37:02.840 he's doing when people are following him and looking at him and he's posting stuff on the

00:37:05.980 internet than if he's doing it in the darkness of the shadows. But by banning him, you're not

00:37:12.640 saving anyone. His followers will just follow him. And now I didn't know who he was. No.

00:37:17.420 And now I do. He was on Tucker Carlson, you guys. For God's sakes, you guys. And that's

00:37:21.740 your fault. And now our fault because we're talking about him too. But it's like, we didn't,

00:37:26.380 nobody knew who he was a month ago, except for, except for a bunch of crazy, like guys who want

00:37:31.220 to go to Hustler University. And now everyone knows who he is. I think the problem is though,

00:37:37.080 with the right and the left is that, okay, so the left's calling this person out. So conservatives

00:37:41.920 automatically feel as though they need to defend him. And it's like, maybe he has some decent ideas

00:37:47.100 about masculinity to an extent. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, he's like super anti like pandemic mandate.

00:37:51.880 Sure. Like I can give him credit where credit's due, but if someone's a bad guy, you, you shouldn't

00:37:57.660 be blowing smoke up his ass. Your ideas shouldn't ban you. Your actions should. And unless you're 0.99

00:38:02.080 calling for actual violence against people or like doxing people, you should be able to talk

00:38:07.080 freely on the internet until you're committing crime in real life. Cause like, if he's a creep,

00:38:11.840 he's going to exploit, like give him the rope to hang himself with. Yeah, exactly. He's going to 0.99

00:38:16.260 expose himself. Let him do it. And he, no one cares. No one should care about him, but we care.

00:38:21.680 More people know who Andertate is now than they did a month ago because of all this. And that's

00:38:25.760 exactly what he wants. Now he's on Tucker. Yeah. And now he's on Misunderstood. World renowned

00:38:30.980 show. World renowned. It's Tucker and Misunderstood. And it's like, it's like, it's like, we don't

00:38:37.080 know which is better. The ratings are just constantly, it's like. They're always fighting

00:38:39.980 against each other. It sucks. So we do apologize for making this person more famous, but it's 1.00

00:38:46.500 important to talk about because I think the key could, could just be, and obviously we're part of

00:38:51.280 the problem, but like when conservatives. We're a huge part of the problem. But when conservatives see

00:38:54.960 these things happen, just like, shut up about it. Like we don't need to comment on everything.

00:38:59.240 And also there's some nuance. There's nuance. Just because lefties hate him doesn't mean

00:39:03.000 you have to support him. And just because we support, like conservatives support him doesn't

00:39:07.180 mean I have to support him and et cetera. Like they can be nuanced. If you can have a

00:39:10.860 nuance. I think that's healthy. And if, if feminists can be toxic, then you can bet your bottom 1.00

00:39:16.960 dollar that men can be too. And conservative men should be calling that out. Yes. Okay.

00:39:21.340 A hundred percent. Okay. Y'all talk about masculinity all the time. I'll call out the

00:39:24.680 bad stuff. Yeah, exactly. He's not a good, he is not a good guy. He doesn't treat women 1.00

00:39:30.220 very great. But do we ban bad people from the, like the town square that is social media

00:39:38.180 so that we don't know what they're thinking and who's following them? No. Not unless

00:39:41.180 he's a criminal. Exactly. Yeah. And then you'll lock him up behind bars like an animal.

00:39:45.480 No. Let him, let him do that. Yeah. Stupid. It's pretty stupid. Yeah. Think that's the

00:39:51.160 sure? I think that's the sure. That's the sure. We covered a lot today. Yeah. Thank

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Rebel News Podcast - August 30, 2022

Miss Understood No. 29 — Bad Boys Get Banned

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