Miss Understood No. 3 — Modest is Hottest
Summary
In this episode, Nat and Kat discuss the Ukraine crisis and the reaction of celebrities to it, as well as some of the worst things celebrities have ever tweeted about it. We also discuss transphobia, dating, body image, and more!
Transcript
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Hello and welcome to Misunderstood, the show for the politically and culturally misunderstood
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lady or gent. We're your hosts. I'm Nat and I'm Kat and today we're going to be talking about a
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whole bunch of stuff including the trans issue, dating, body image and we always like to start
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with our patented culture shock moment. Take it away, Nat. Yes, so as many of you know, Russia is
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invading Ukraine but we are not going to be talking about the nitty-gritty details. In fact,
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we're going to be kind of switching gears and talking about some of the reactions we've seen
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and whether or not they are justified. Of course, we believe everyone's entitled to their opinion but
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we kind of like to go with, you know, if you don't know enough about a topic, it's probably for the
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best not to speak about it. We'll zip it. Yeah, so and so for example, you know, we've seen the
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truckers convoy, the freedom convoy has been passing through Canada and we saw that resulted in the
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emergencies act being invoked by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. So interesting to see a lot of
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the same people posting in support of Ukraine now said nothing during the truckers convoy. Yes. Maybe
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we should talk about how that's insane. Well, the fact that Chrystia Freeland and Mayor of Toronto,
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John Tory, were out marching in the streets in solidarity with the Ukrainian people, you know,
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cool. Yeah, sure. March for something that you believe in. That's cool. It's just like, hmm,
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remind me, how many weeks ago was it that Chrystia Freeland was on the TV talking about how she was
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going to freeze the bank accounts of anyone who was at the freedom convoy or who donated to it?
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Seems a little hypocritical. Yeah, and it's also interesting that Justin Trudeau has been tweeting
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about democracy and freedom, yet I guess he doesn't own a mirror or something because,
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like we mentioned, he invoked the Emergencies Act, which basically gave the police, like,
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dictatorship ownership over the truckers convoy. Yes, so it seems like he's super pro-protest,
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pro-freedom, pro-democracy, but only for people who are living in Eastern Europe. Yeah,
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and why do you think so many people in Canada who were silent in the wake of the convoy are now
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speaking out about Ukraine? You literally just said this before we started. Sean Penn told them to.
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Sean Penn. Any actor. I do whatever he tells me. It's probably Sean Penn. I don't know for a fact,
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but it's like any actor who is still in the A-list world is going to be talking about Ukraine and is
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going to be like, yeah, it's cool to be pro-Ukraine, anti-Russia. Again, am I a war expert? No, I am
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absolutely not. I don't know a lot of the history from between Russia and the Ukrainian border. I'm
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not going to pretend to. Crimea? What's that? I don't know. But it's just interesting that, like,
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what I do know is about the fight for freedom that we're living through in Canada right now.
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Yeah, and it's just so important to care about your own freedom and your own democracy, too. Like,
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of course, we should care about Ukraine. We should pray for Ukraine. We should pray for Russia, too.
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We should learn about it. Yeah, we should learn about it. We should learn about it, for sure.
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Like, our freedoms have been slipping away very, I'd argue even quickly over the last two years,
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and it's just time for Canadians to wake the heck up. I mean, we have a pastor in Alberta who's rotting
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in prison right now. He's an innocent man, and I haven't heard any churches really, you know,
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say anything in his defense, but, you know, pray for Ukraine. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well,
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that leads us to the next little article that we have here, which is, or it's not an article. It's
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just, like, tweets. But, see, these are some of the worst celebrity, or is it an article?
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Yeah, I think it's an article. It's an article. Yeah. It's the worst celebrity, uh, tweets. The
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cringiest responses from celebrities on the Ukrainian crisis. So let's take a peek, see, at those.
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I'm sure some of you have heard, uh, saw that viral tweet from that actress from 90210.
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Yeah, like, I don't know who this lady is, but she's, like, writing a poem. Yeah, she, like,
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wrote a poem, and it was just so cringe. Like, Putin, if I was your mother, I would have loved
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you so much, and this whole crisis in the Ukraine never would have happened. It's, like, I don't
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know. I mean, of course, you know, I'm sure her heart's in the right place, but it's, like,
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weee. She gonna go back in time and write that poem for Genghis Khan? Like, hello?
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Anyway, um, moral of the story is don't listen to celebrities about anything.
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Unless it's us. Unless it's us, because we're celebrities. You know, you don't need to post
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about something you don't know anything about, you know? Like, if you don't know about it,
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just whatever. Just, like, sit back and let the world burn. Wait till next week and everyone's
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posting yellow and blue squares on their IGs. Oh, that's probably gonna happen. It's okay
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to not do it if you don't know enough about the topic. At least, though, the war has ended
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COVID. Yay! So great. COVID's over, you guys. But, you know, um, our next topic is, um, a little bit,
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like, unpleasant as well. Um, so there's a war happening in Ukraine. Nice. But also,
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uh, trans athletes, biological males are encroaching on women's sports. We talk about
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this a lot. We're very passionate about this. Um, let's talk about our first story.
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Because we're TERFs, you know? We're TERFs. We're trans radical exclusionary feminists,
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right? Did I get it right? Well, you know what? Yeah. I think I got it right. You got it. And
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I think JK Rowling would be proud. Yeah. Even though none of those words describe me. No. But
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here we go. Here we go. Um, so trans swimmer Leah Thomas, formerly 460 seconds rank as William
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Thomas. I like how, like, she just took the Leah out of her name, William. Anyways. That's clever.
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Yeah, it is. She takes the gold in Ivy League women's championships by a full seven seconds. So
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I don't know a lot about swimming, but I know that seven seconds is a lot. Like, in seven seconds,
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you can basically get there and back. Yeah. Like, think of, like, basketball when it's down to the
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wire. And then there's one second left. And then they shoot their shot. And then that's the shot
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that wins them the game. Like, like, time is so, like, important in sport. So is muscle mass. Yeah.
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Ooh, and bone dancing. Ooh, ooh. And arm reach. Yeah. And there is a, there is a clip of this. I think
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we should play it. Um, because it's just showing her lead, her, his lead on the other women. It is
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literally insane. Like, there's basically, the tweet says something along the lines of, like,
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this, the, this was a race for second place. Yeah. Because the other women had no shot. Yeah. But
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this is fine, guys. We should accept this. We should completely be okay with men just
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destroying women's careers in sports. Yeah, it's good. It's good. We love it. Um, what I don't love,
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though, is the next article. Are we going to watch this? Yeah, we should watch it. Okay, let's watch it.
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Let's play a second of it. So see how you can't even see the other women. So I see a swimmer in a
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pool followed by a couple other guppies. Yeah. And who are these people cheering for? Are they
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cheering for the people in seventh and eighth? I hope so. I certainly hope so. This looks like a
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really short pool. Does it not? Yeah. Or that's just a really big, long man.
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But I don't know. Well, this individual is a really good swimmer. Oh, look at those shoulders.
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The shoulders of a dainty woman. That's for dang sure. I hope I can have shoulders like that one
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day. I do, too. So yeah, um, this is, this is great. This is great. It's a win for women. It's a win
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for, well, it leads into our next, um, sorry, I cut you off. No, go. It's a win for women and it's a
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women. It's a win for nothing. You're good. All right. So, uh, this article is sad. It's
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on the same topic. Um, but it's the headline here is this will be the end of women's sport
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team USA math, uh, sorry, team USA masters track star warns it's pointless for her athlete
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daughter to follow in her footsteps because biological males are taking over. Can we talk
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about how sad that is? That is so sad. That's exactly the kind of thing that transphobes have
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been saying was going to happen. And they're like, no, it won't. No, it won't. And it's
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happened. So this young girl is like, why am I going to follow in my mother's footsteps when
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all of my accomplishments are just going to get demolished by a wide, broad, big handed
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man? Yeah. So I guess this daughter is on the track team and she was going to her first
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meet and she ended up competing against a biological male who has not worked as hard as her physically,
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um, emotionally or mentally to prepare for this race. He's like new to the sport. He's
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new to the sport. Yeah. And he just got to go on in there and beat her because he identifies
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as a female now. So it's interesting. And I was talking about this before. Um, but you
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know, you never see women trying to become men and encroach on these spaces. It's always
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these like men coming in because they know they'll beat us. They know they'll win. Well, it's possible
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that there are women who are like trans men who are competing in sports, but they're doing
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very poorly. Yeah, exactly. You just never hear about them. Yeah. Because they suck in
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comparison to their biological counterparts. It's just, it's just insane that this is actually
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becoming like so much more common than it should be. Yeah. You know, and I just, I, we should
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never stop talking about this. And we won't. Yeah, exactly. Um, cause I would rather be labeled
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a bigot than to see young women suffer for like, someone's gotta say it. Someone's gotta say
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it. And it will be us. And you know, this reminds me of, there was another story that I didn't
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think we put on the list, but it was about women's soccer players and how they're not
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making as much money as their male counterparts. And the common thing there is like, well,
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they don't have the viewership. Yeah. Like usually this is based on like ad revenue and
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ticket sales. And like, if people aren't watching women play sports, then no one's going to pay
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them to do it. And it makes me think like, is this just the market, like the free market
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running its course where it's like, so men are going to become female athletes. And then we're
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just going to be watching, like, again, we're not watching male sports, sorry, female sports,
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but we're going to be watching men dressed up as women doing male sports. Like, is that
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where the market is leading us? Literally like men in wigs playing basketball? I don't want
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to watch that. Maybe that's what the people want to see. I, you know what? I really hope
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that's not the case. Um, welcome to the freak show. That is not cute. Like I'm down to watch
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like all those hot athlete, male athletes. No, but they're going to be women. But I don't
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want to see them in wigs. Like that's not cute. LeBron. Yeah. Um, but I mean, you know,
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and why do you, but why do you think this is happening? Like, do you think this is the
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feminist fault? Do you think this is women's fault? Or do you think this is a result of
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weak men not standing up for women? Because I was listening to Ali Beth Stuckey's show
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Relatable and she said that, um, if men can't stand up to women, they can't stand up for them.
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And that kind of notion has sort of come from, because of the feminist movement, women have
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become kind of big, like more emboldened and empowered, I guess, in our society. And I guess
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there's like this kind of trope of like the bully female and stuff like that. Like women are
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bitches. Um, men are there, whatever, you know, like they submit to the woman now, like,
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but you'd think that it would make us come out on top. And here we are getting slammed in sports.
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And like, we've discussed this in our first episode when, um, Caitlyn Jenner won woman of
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the year, her first woman, her first year being a woman. Like what are, if we were, if we were in
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charge of this whole situation and we were smacking men around, like, wouldn't it work in our favor
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more? Yeah, no, but I'm wondering if it's the problem is men aren't standing up for us though.
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And I, I wonder if, do you think it's their job too, or do you think we've just dug ourselves
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too deep in this hole? Hmm, this is a good question. I don't know the answer. I think it's men
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who are masquerading as women who are pretending to be feminists. And they're like, I am woman,
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hear me roar. And it's like, but you're a man though. Yeah. And so they're, they're playing both sides of the
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aisle there. Yeah, that's a good point. That's a really good point. Um, cause I, I'm just, my
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like first inkling is to just never trust a man who is wearing a shirt that says feminist on it or
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has his pronouns in his bio. Because if you, if you need to show me you're a man by listing it in
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your bio, you probably aren't. Or if you need to show me on a t-shirt that like, Hey, I don't hate
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women. It's like, why do you need, why do you feel the need to write that on your shirt? Yeah. Most people,
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most men just don't hate women and they don't have to tell us. It's like red delicious apples. Like,
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are you, are you delicious? No, no, you're stinky. You're rotten.
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This is great. Yeah. Um, so this is not a fun one. No, at all. No, it's, it's actually disgusting.
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Yeah. Um, but of course just speaks to how, how to this whole movement has just gone too far. Yes.
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It's just gone too far. So this is a convicted, I don't even want to say the words. Okay. Uh,
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convicted toddler rapist is now a trans rights activist who has spoken at top ranked universities.
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So this article is disgusting. That's what I wrote. I said, this is disgusting. I said,
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this is too disturbing. Yes, this is. And hence we are going to talk about it. Yeah. And I think like
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we want to protect women and we want to keep female spaces female, but like even more than that,
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I want to protect children. Yeah. Like, you know, like this, like you should not be allowed out of
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prison ever, ever touched a child inappropriately ever. So this person was convicted of raping a girl
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while he was on trial. He was awaiting trial. He, um, started identifying as a woman and he was
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talking to, he, so as soon as he was convicted, he went to prison, uh, in a male prison and he started,
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um, saying, I'm a woman, I'm a woman. And he wanted to have his, uh, gender dysphoria
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diagnosis certified or whatever confirmed. And they never did because the therapist at the prison
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was like, I don't buy this. So it's nice. Yada, yada, yada. Now he's a trans activist speaking at
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top ranked universities for some reason, because we know these places are liberal hell holes and
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they're welcoming in. Like, again, these are, these are not children. It's not like, oh,
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he's speaking at a school. Like, okay, these, these are adults. So he's probably not interested
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in them. But how can you call yourself an activist? And I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about
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those who are enabling this behavior. How can you call yourself an active, an activist and care
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about social justice and then think that this is okay? Like, I don't understand how anyone could
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find this to be acceptable. Well, this is the whole thing where it's like, okay, I'm such a feminist now
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that I'm actually anti-woman, anti-child. And if I am faced with that choice, I don't want to be a
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bigot. So I'm just going to be like, yeah, let's just go with what everyone else is saying. But
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it's like, have you stopped to think about what you're doing? Because you're now saying that women
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are not allowed to have spaces just for them, that men with genitalia, male genitalia should be allowed
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in those spaces and be like raping a kid is like NBD. Yeah. And you have so much to teach us. Like,
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what do you have to teach us? No, I think the trans lobby is anti-woman. Yes. I think a thousand
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percent. I think with sports, Tumblr, like you said, children, like, like this movement is anti-feminist
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and anti-woman. It's so progressive. It's regressive. Like it's so backwards. Yeah. And I think it's
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homophobic too. I've said this before where it's like, what, what if your kid is just gay? No,
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they're definitely born in the wrong body and need to be medicated and medically altered in so many
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different ways. But what if they're just like different? What if they're not even gay? What if they're
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just like, I was a girl who played sports. I had super short hair, played sports. Like, does that,
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what? Am I a boy? Uh, you don't look like a boy. No boy. You don't act like a boy. But I just think
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that a lot of this too has, has become so normalized because we've seen so many, we, there was that
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other article that we were, I think, are we going to talk about this, about the woman who detransitioned?
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Yes. Helena. Um, so this is a sub stack that you had found and I read, it's a very long story.
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It's so long. You guys should go read it. Um, it's, it's very powerful, but the whole time I was
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reading it, it's basically just a summary of her experience. She, um, found Tumblr as most young
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teenagers do, do not let your kids go on Tumblr. Before there was TikTok, there was Tumblr. Um, and
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she tumbled down the wrong rabbit hole. Yeah. Quite literally. And, uh, she was suffering with
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depression and anxiety. Normal teenage stuff. Yeah. And I mean, she was self-harming and stuff and that
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was one of the ways she was kind of coping, but she found comfort in this Tumblr community. Um, and then
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eventually it was kind of more about like gender ideology and critical race theory before that
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was really coined as a term and all this stuff. And basically this, this group kind of teaches,
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uh, cisgender white women that they are like the oppressor. Yes. Yeah. Right. Um, so she started
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to feel like, Oh, well, I guess I don't have enough oppression Olympic brownie points. So I'm going to be
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trans. That's what I took away from the article was less that she was like, Oh, I'm a man trapped in a
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woman's body. And more so like, I love my Tumblr community. She was extremely isolated at school.
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She was isolated from her family. She said her family didn't cope with like communication and
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pain pain. Well, so that's a problem. Um, and so she found this Tumblr community and she felt like,
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Oh, I have my people. She said she would Skype with her friends on Tumblr from all over the world.
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And she had her community. And then she realized like, Oh no, I'm the top oppressor in this hierarchy.
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And so the easiest way to not no longer be an oppressor and be an, not just an ally is to mutilate your
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victim. Yeah. Is to start being trans and to say that you were born in the wrong body. And she said,
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as soon as that happened, she was now praised as a hero and a victim at the same time. And hero,
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heroism and victimhood are basically the same thing these days. So it's, you know, it's not good.
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It's scary. And I think it just speaks to the fact that like parents need to be so much more involved
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in their kids' lives when it comes to like the things they are exposing themselves to on the internet.
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Um, like, what if, like, what if, you know, she had never had the common sense eventually to
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detransition? What, like, this is, you're mutilating your body forever. And sometimes that you go too
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far, you can't go back. And I, I just, I just think this is scary. This is scary. And the fact that
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she said she was 18 and she went for a single consultation with a doctor and she was prescribed
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testosterone. Yeah. And she said immediately upon going on testosterone, her mental health
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deteriorated, like very quickly. That's terrifying. And what about the ethics of all this? Like,
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we don't know, there aren't really long-term studies about this. And, and how is it ethical
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or justifiable to literally mutilate perfect young bodies? Like, you know, like you are this,
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she was healthy. She was young. I know she didn't go as far as other people do, but like,
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man, these people are, these kids are going to look back one day and if they regret it,
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who do they blame? Yeah. The people that were supposed to look out for them, the adults,
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the doctors, the psychologists, you know, like it's insane. Peers even. Yeah. The community,
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the Tumblr community, but yeah, it's like too many fractured people to blame. Again,
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I would blame the parents. Me too. First and foremost. I agree. She, in the first, our first
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paragraph, she was like, my parents didn't communicate or deal with pain and they just
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kind of pushed it away. So it's like, that's your problem right there. Yeah. And, uh, parents look out,
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look into what your kids are doing on the internet. Okay. Cause this could be like life
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ruining. Yeah. It could be life ruining. Yeah, absolutely. But definitely read her full story
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because it is, it's very powerful. And I think, um, I think it's surprising just how many people
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have suffered and, and dealt with the same things as her and, and it resulted in them transitioning
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and then detransitioning. So I just want to read this one little quote from this article. Um,
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she says, no hardship you could possibly go through could ever be as bad as the prejudice and genocide
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POC and LGBT people face every day, single, sorry, every single day, insert clap emoji,
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LGBT people, P L G T. It's an alphabet. The alphabet. Black people and POC can't even walk out of their
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houses without being murdered by cis het. I don't know what cis het is. Cis het, white people just
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like you. I butchered that. That's probably us. You get it. The point is, is she was like,
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so I'm basically a murderer as a cis white woman. So I'm going to become trans so that I'm a victim
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and a hero and I'm beloved by all. I thought to be classified as a murderer, you had to actually
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physically murder someone. No, wrong. Okay. You just have to be you. You just have to be you girl.
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That's what we're teaching kids. That's great. Well, um, that's great. Okay. Let's move on from
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Yeah, okay. Okay, that was an ad break. Um, so maybe we should, uh, lighten things up with some
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dating advice. Yeah. Um, I think that would be fun. This is such a fun article. Oh my god. Okay,
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there's, please, what were you gonna say? Because I, I want to start talking. No, go for it. Okay.
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Do the damn thing. Um, so, this article says, want to impress your Tinder profile? Sorry, yeah,
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want to impress your Tinder profile? Does that make sense? No, it doesn't make sense. Want to
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improve your Tinder profile, maybe. Yeah. Daily Mail. Don't use sexy photos. People with saucy
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images are more likely to be seen as incompetent and unlikable study reveals. Um, first of all,
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this is so funny. It says, uh, in the study, the researchers set out to understand whether the
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photos people include in their dating profiles affect other people's perception of them. Duh.
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Duh. Of course they do. They had to have a study. Also, it's like a visual medium. It's a visual,
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yeah. Like, it's literally based. Do you think most people go through and scroll and read any of
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the crap you write about yourself? No. No, I just want to see your abs. Yeah, I know. It's like,
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study reveals that what people say on podcasts can affect how people perceive those podcasts. I mean,
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but to their point, it does kind of make sense. Like, modest is hottest. Like, it's nice to have
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a little mystery, you know? Keep them guessing. Like, you know, wear your collared shirt, you know?
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Leave them wanting some more. Yeah. Long sleeves. No. But, you know, like, if all you have is your
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physical appearance and you put it out there for the whole world to see, like, what else do you have
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to offer? Like, I want to see a little more personality in your profile, I think. Yes. Yes. You
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know? Um, also, oh, this is going to be good. This is going to be good. So, there's a quote from the
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article. Sexualized photos were classified as ones where people posed in revealing clothing or
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lingerie. Oh. Okay. Made suggestive poses or exposed their breasts. Oh. Okay. That's gross. Genitals
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or buttocks. Sorry, I'm... Genitals? Yeah. What are you putting your genitals in your profile picture
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for? If you are doing that, like, you, you suck. That's unsolicited. That is not nice. That is
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harassment. Keep your junk out of your profile pictures. Keep your junk. Like, you know what? It's a junky
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app already. We don't need more junk. Like, they had to have a study. The study revealed
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that don't put your penis in your profile picture. Yeah. And, you know, speaking of a
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woman who probably posted sexy photos too much. No, I'm just kidding. I don't actually know
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about her profile habits, but let's show you a clip of a 30-year-old who is extremely sad
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that she's single and 30. Yeah. This made me sad. It was sad. I might be, you know. No, you're
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fine. You're perfect. Okay, I'm 16. This is a sad episode. This is a bummer of an episode,
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you guys. We'll just play the clip if we could. Let's play this. I just had, like, the
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craziest, saddest thought. This is a conversation I would have with my mother. I'm in the stage
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of life where I'm watching all my friends get married and have babies and find love. And
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I had another talking face yet again fall through. And my friend was like, you know, you'll meet
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the one one day. Don't give up. But now I'm at a point where I hope I don't. Because what
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happens if I meet him and he wants kids and I'm too old to not be able to give him any?
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No, that's so sad, dude. So it's easier for me to say I don't want kids.
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She kind of just says the same stuff. Yeah. This is really sad. Yeah, I think, like, I think
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it's important to note, though, that, like, marriage and having kids is not a guarantee
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in life. Like, you're not promised that. That's a privilege, not a right. So I don't think
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it's right all the time to put so much pressure on yourself when it comes to getting married
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and having kids because, like, you just don't know where life's going to take you sometimes.
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Like it's like I said, it's a blessing. And of course, marriage comes with its own setbacks.
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But and like half of them end up divorced. Yeah. Well, that's that's the thing. So it's
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like you can you can be part of those lucky people that get married and then end up an
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unlucky one divorced. So it's like, is that better? Yeah. And I think it just speaks to
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like being intentional, intentional, intentional in being intentional with your dating habits
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and your relationships. And I think that's kind of the issue we're seeing with a lot
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of these women who are single and they're wondering why, you know, it's we've said this
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before and we'll say it again. It's the culture. It speaks to the culture that we live in where
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they for the last 10 years, people have probably been telling this gorgeous woman like, oh,
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don't worry, like party, sleep with whoever you want. Like you'll have plenty of time.
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And then once you hit your 30s, people are like, oh, you're not married yet. And it's
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like, whoa, you guys were telling me to just have fun and play the game and don't worry
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about it. But but now I'm very worried about it. And it's like, yeah, you should have been
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friggin worried about it this whole time if you really, really wanted kids and women
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don't they they suffered much worse consequences than men. Men can have lived their life as Peter
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Pan forever, just like doing it with whoever because they don't have a biological clock that
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women have. And I just I think it's it's scary that our society is glorified singleness in
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a way that has just left people really lonely and I think empty. Yeah, because yeah, no, keep
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going. Well, I was gonna say, like you said, they glorify singlehood. But then does she
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seem glorious to you? No, she seems like miserable. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, this is again,
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like I said, like this is a conversation I would have had with my mom, not put it on
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TikTok. But she says at the end of the video, the reason she's posting it is because she
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wanted to reach out and see if like other women were experiencing the same thing. And
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then she does do a follow up. And she was like, I did not expect so many responses. And
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she's like, that made me so happy. And it's like, I'm happy that she feels elated or like,
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what's the word I'm looking for? Like a sense of community. Yeah, she feels justified in
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how she's feeling and not alone. However, speaks to the culture we're living in that
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so many women are like, Oh, I'm in my 30s, too. And I'm like, I'm kind of in the same
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position myself. And I'm trying not to be terrified. Like, don't be terrified. You're
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a girl. Oh, yeah, I'll be fine. But it's just like, we live in this culture where we're
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like, do whatever you want, live your life. And then you're like, Oh, you're not
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married. Oh, it's like, what am I supposed to feel as a woman? Yeah, everything
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has consequences. Every single moment of our lives is a moment of impact. And even
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if you don't notice that impact right away, like down the line, you're gonna be
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like, it's gonna hit you in the face. And you're gonna be like, damn, like I should
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have. Yeah, maybe I should have, you know, not just followed my heart. Or maybe you
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should have like taken that nice guy more seriously when you were young. And you
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wanted the bad boy. Like we all know, we've all been in that phase. But I feel like
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that phase is extended for women. And it's like, Oh, just date that hot bad boy who has
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no job. It's like, but you want babies, maybe a more responsible mate is better. And
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like, maybe that's like, to what we were talking about before with your profile, like
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maybe you taking pictures in your bikini drinking sangria on the beach is like not
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gonna find you that like, honorable man you're looking for. It's gonna find you a
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And I think it's a part of it too, is like our culture is so obsessed with like
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temporary satisfaction. We don't want to have hard, meaningful conversations. We just
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want to have sex right now with everybody because it feels good right now. But most
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people I know who live out their lives like that, they're not happy. They are
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really miserable. They don't know who they are. They keep wondering why they're
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single. Like this poor woman who's beautiful. Like she seems like she can put a
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sentence together. She seems smart. She has access to the internet. She knows how to
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use TikTok and she's 30. She's living in the first world. She's having a good time. And yet
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she's so sad and she feels lost and like she doesn't know how to live in this
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world. And it's like kind of everyone's fault. Yeah. Not ours. No, we're perfect.
00:28:20.120
But you know, just interesting that the feminist movement is kind of, this is
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stemmed from the feminist movement as well. So it's just, I'm wondering, you know,
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maybe, maybe feminism was a trap in a way. We could rename the show Feminism?
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I don't know. Is it good? I don't know. Probably not. I mean, yeah, like obviously
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suffragettes. Yes, for sure. Like, you know, being able to vote's nice. Yeah, like not being owned by a man.
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Yeah, it's not the worst. But no, that's great. I love all that. But we've taken it a bit far, ladies.
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It's gone too far. Yeah. It's, yeah. I said this before. Remember that free the nip movement?
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No. It failed miserably. We should never free the nip. Put those nips back, ladies. Put them back and date the nerd, okay?
00:28:56.100
Yeah, definitely. Speaking of nerds, just kidding. He's not a nerd. But Channing Tatum, guys, we're going to talk about body image a bit here.
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Let's talk about some body image. Channing Tatum says achieving his ripped physique from Magic Mike is hard and not natural. You have to starve yourself.
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Oh, my gosh. He had to eat salad. I'm sorry that the rich actor had to stop eating chips to earn a million dollars to take off his clothes in a movie.
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Oh, I'm sorry he had to drink eight glasses of water and do shit-ups all day while his friends were out drinking and eating nachos.
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You know, it's interesting that these celebrities only ever care about how they feel. But what about the image they project on the rest of us?
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Like, okay, Channing Tatum, you starved yourself for a million dollars. I starve myself. I get nothing.
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And no one notices. So, like, who the hell are you, dude? Like, I don't feel sorry for you because celebrities are the problem here.
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They've set these standards. And now we have to try to live up to them. And I, like I said, I don't get paid to do it.
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Yeah. In the article, he was saying how he couldn't imagine staying fit if he had a nine-to-five.
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He's like, I have, this is my full-time job and I can't even do it. And we're like, yeah, like, exactly.
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Yep. And yet, we still project those images on everyone.
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Like, you're doing with the movie. Again, what's wrong with having abs? Like, no.
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I'm not like, oh, no one should have abs because it produces, like, an unrealistic body image.
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That's not what I'm saying. But for him to be like, here's my Magic Mike abs. And he's like, oh, it's too hard.
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It's like, yeah. I mean, I guess it's a good thing that he's saying it, but it's just like, yeah, welcome to my life, Channing.
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Yeah. And I just think, like, you get paid to starve yourself. You really don't care.
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Like, if you really had strong convictions about it, then you wouldn't have done the movie.
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And he's doing the Magic Mike 3 also. See you in theaters.
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We'll go, but we'll wear sunglasses and fake mustaches so nobody knows that we're there.
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But, yeah, it's just like, cry me a river, Channing.
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She'll come out in 10 years and say we're all saying it wrong.
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But Emmy Rossum is only 10 years older than Tom Holland and has been cast to play his mom
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So I guess, apparently, she's going to be playing the mom in the flashback.
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But it is interesting because, like, it got me thinking about, like, men like Leonardo
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DiCaprio who play these, like, puffy, alcoholic dudes in movies.
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Like, but also, like, Margot Robbie in The Wolf of Wall Street was his, like, his wife.
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And I'm like, you are not on the same playing field.
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So I just, I do think it's kind of interesting to talk about this because, like, men are allowed
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to be one thing, but women have to be, like, way better and way, way more, you know?
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You basically have to look, and we'll talk about this because we're going to talk about
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But you basically have to be, like, super hot and look 18 until you're old enough to play
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It's like, where are those mid-age women allowed to live in Hollywood?
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They're just in hiding for a few years, and then they're like, hello.
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Not that men are, you know, free from this pressure.
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Because I, when I was reading this article earlier, I saw that Bradley Cooper at the SAG
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Awards, or one of the award shows that happened on the weekend, he showed up with,
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And it's like, someone maybe had a little work done.
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But speaking of someone who doesn't cave to the pressure, size 20 model slams haters
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who criticize her son's diet and doesn't care if he gets fat.
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She has like 2.4 million followers or something.
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And she's, she's all about like, you know, speaking out against anorexia and all that,
00:33:17.720
But, you know, you know, it doesn't always have to be one extreme or the other test.
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She talks about having a healthy relationship with food.
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Like it's your job to help your kid grow up to be a productive and healthy.
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Like person, you know, they, they need to have a healthy relationship with food.
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But also like they can't, they shouldn't be allowed to eat whatever the heck they want.
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When she says that he, she wants her kid to have a healthy relationship with food.
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I think she doesn't understand what that means.
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Because like for me, being healthy does not, does not mean thin.
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Their body type is X and they're trying to be Y.
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So maybe Tess is heavier than the average woman.
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However, the thing that was super messed up about this is she said, um, she doesn't,
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she wants her kid to not see certain types of food as good and other types as bad.
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She's saying like people were mad at her for, uh, having a picture or a video of her eating
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pop tarts with her son and she's like, I don't want him to think that some foods are good
00:34:38.260
Not only for your like weight and stuff, but your teeth, your mental health.
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Like if you want to have some sweets, like there are ways to do that.
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It's your job to help your kid out, you know, and to teach them these things.
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And like, like I said, like she does good things.
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What if her kid was like, Hey mom, can I have an apple?
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Do you think, do you think she'd be like, Oh, are you sure you don't want an apple flavored
00:35:14.900
Like that's don't, like don't eat an apple just cause you think you're, you're going to
00:35:19.080
Like what if he's like, no, I just want some fruit.
00:35:20.980
Like just give your kid some fruit and we'll stop talking about you, Tess.
00:35:28.580
It's, uh, but, uh, speaking of 500 pound bear, I was like, how do we, this is such a beautiful
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Um, we just wanted to take a quick break and talk about, uh, Hank the tank.
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Um, so he's a 500 pound bear that breaks into 28 homes looking for food.
00:35:49.180
If your kid is as cute as Hank, the tank, then just whatever, do whatever you want.
00:35:56.540
I don't know if Tess lives in LA, but I was thinking if he's looking for food, he, you
00:36:17.180
Pop-Tarts would be a great diet for the overweight bear, not for your child.
00:36:31.620
Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled programming.
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We'd already touch on this briefly, but Courtney Cox candidly admits that her previous cosmetic
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procedures left her looking really strange, and they did.
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I love that she admits to the pressure she was feeling.
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She was like, I was, you know, known for being young and beautiful and having a certain
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And then as I was, you know, in my 30s, I started noticing my face change.
00:36:59.180
But she made it look hecka weird with too much Botox, fillers, whatever you want to
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And she's now like, you know, obviously she still has Botox and fillers.
00:37:14.220
And she has a healthier relationship with her own face.
00:37:25.080
That's what I was just going to say, because we talked about this last week as well.
00:37:27.500
Um, it's just nice to see celebrities come out and say, Hey, there are bad side effects
00:37:34.300
You can take it too far and you won't look good.
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Um, so I do think it's really important to keep this conversation going, especially like
00:37:40.800
in the wake of social media, which you talk about all the time.
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If I'm seeing these women inject them, their faces, like I'm only 16.
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So if I see these people constantly having to resort to plastic surgery, I'm going to be
00:37:53.080
like, well, that's my only way of looking hot too.
00:37:55.100
Like when you're 17, you're going to think you look old.
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And like, we just need to normalize women aging gracefully.
00:38:11.960
Like, how do you, it's kind of like what we were talking about the other week where people
00:38:17.160
are saying, you know, you should embrace all body types.
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It's like, of course they do, but you can't force a man to think you're hot when he doesn't
00:38:32.980
It's just like someone who's like, I like big breasted women.
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It's like, no, you have to like tiny breasted women.
00:38:40.200
So like we, how are we supposed to normalize aging faces when we have been like plucked
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and probed and tightened and stretched for so many years?
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Like, like, oh, I'm going to undo the clip here.
00:38:53.260
I think that's how it, it's just like a button you press.
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And then, and then we're just going to be like, men, you better tell us we're young
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That's going to be an interesting transition for humanity.
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But I think it's important that we just embrace our God given features to an extent.
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And like, I don't, I don't have any issues with Botox or fillers.
00:39:22.340
Like do what you want with your body to an extent, but like we have to, we have to ease
00:39:30.700
I think people should be like, what did you do on the weekends?
00:39:34.200
I went to the beach and I got some Botox instead of being like, oh, I just drank, you know,
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Like I'm so sick of people lying about their procedures.
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And I think it's important to keep the conversation going.
00:39:51.360
That's why we talk about plastic surgery so much.
00:39:56.740
Yeah, I was going to say, we talk about it so much because we can't actually afford to
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We're going to get rich enough so that I can have Nat's face.
00:40:16.940
Speaking of things that are cut up, a little too short.
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This itsy bitsy micro skirt that's everywhere you look, Miu Miu's 650 pound thigh skimmer
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First of all, that is way too much for that amount of fabric.
00:40:39.160
Well, I would wear that as a belt over an actual skirt.
00:40:44.400
I was going to say like, it could be a nice eye mask for if you're traveling.
00:40:47.300
Like you're trying to sleep on a plane or something.
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Like you're washing your face and you want to keep your hair out of your face.
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My biggest question is the question of the hour is how the heck do you sit down in this
00:41:09.560
Nicole, you are way too old to be dressing like this.
00:41:15.080
It's like over sexualizing like a toddler almost.
00:41:23.580
This is just like the freaking Courtney Cox thing.
00:41:26.060
It's like, why are you trying to look 18 in your 50s or 60s?
00:41:35.500
And it's like, we should not be normalizing looking like, you know, not legal.
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Like we shouldn't be normalizing wanting to look like a minor.
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And, you know, and of course next week we'll be coming to record our show wearing this outfit.
00:42:17.840
I think it's nice to just like keep them guessing.
00:42:40.460
It just looks like a nice skirt that was chopped up.
00:42:54.120
The best celeb street style for Milan Fashion Week 2022.
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The 2022 SAG Award Fashion Looks represents ultimate glamour.
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So we're going to show you some of these looks.
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This happened over the weekend, I think, right?
00:43:27.600
They kind of blend into the SAG thing, which, you know, could have been avoided.
00:43:49.180
But it looks like, you know, in that Hilary Duff movie when she goes to Rome, it looks like
00:43:57.320
And she's like, this is what dreams are made of.
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But her Botox guy is doing a lot better of a job than Courtney's old one.
00:44:20.420
I bet if we were, like, really zoomed in, we would see some lines, which would just be
00:44:57.680
You know, it looks like the mean girl's dress that she can't fit into, Regina George can't
00:45:01.920
fit into at the end, because she's been eating those calteen bars.
00:45:23.600
This woman's face has never looked the same day to day.
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Like, if you want to, and I probably do this with the magic of editing, but if you want
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to look at Lady Gaga's face, like, 10 years ago versus this one now, this is, like,
00:45:40.660
And she is the one who, didn't she used to call her tribe of, like, fans, like, her
00:45:44.900
little monsters, like, her little freaks or whatever.
00:45:56.200
You are the biggest conformist on the planet, so.
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Not practicing what you preach on me is better than that.
00:46:05.240
Although, if you're hungry and you got, like, a hot plate, you could just sizzle that baby.
00:46:19.700
I can't even see what's going on with the dress.
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It was just hard to tell with a dark background.
00:46:39.160
And I don't mean that in that you can't be sexy and be, like, 60.
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It's just confusing because she's, like, she has been a hot, like, classy lady for, like, 20 years.
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It's just, it's confusing to me how she hasn't.
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Like, Lord of the Rings came out over 10 years ago.
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And I was, like, a newborn baby when that came out.
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This is, like, a worse version of Selena's dress.
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Like, girls, when I was at Western, used to dress like that to the bar.
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She has way more money than those girls, so she should be ashamed of herself.
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This looks very much like Selma's dress, but, like, this is, like, Selma's was, like,
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I feel like it would be really pretty if it was strapless and, like, a little higher.
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Yeah, and I think the slit needs to not be so hot.
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I just feel like you have boob and you have slit.
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Like, give me, like, a nice, or, like, one of those, like, shoulder something.
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This looks like what the drag queen Simone was wearing at New York Fashion Week the other
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Like, why is your wedding day the only day you can wear a giant gown?
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I think the theme is just wear a giant, vibrant-colored gown and we'll love it.
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We're going to do a rapid-fire session where we just read headlines and offer one quick snide remark each.
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We're calling it the Blitz, which is actually really terrible because of, that's what they called the bombing of London.
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Well, in the theme of war, we're going to be having a Blitz, a misunderstood Blitz.
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So, first one, rumor has it that Taylor Swift and Joel Alwyn are engaged after five years together.
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Why are they screaming their love for the mountaintops?
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I thought, like, the rumor came out when they first started dating that they got engaged or when Lover came out, right?
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No, after Willow, the song Willow came out from Evermore.
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No, but it was actually Lover because there's a song on Lover, the one that's, um...
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And I just wanted to say that for Taylor Swift to have been in a relationship for five years...
00:51:04.100
Melissa McCarthy had the best response for Lizzo after she got cast as Ursula in The Little Mermaid.
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So, apparently, Lizzo is like, I wanted that role.
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And then Melissa's like, well, then why did they give it to me?
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But I would just like to say, I'd like to nominate myself to play hot Ursula.
00:51:33.400
Kim Kardashian's fleet of cars cost over $100,000 in custom work because the stars are just like us.
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I would like to ask her about the engines of those cars.
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She doesn't even know what's going on under her own hood, let alone their cars.
00:51:52.840
Large corporations scoop up relief money designed for small businesses.
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Everything that Justin Trudeau touches turns to poop.
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All I have is he's a government for the people, folks.
00:52:09.060
Scarlett Johansson's new skincare line has sparked a debate about the oversaturation of celebrity beauty brands weeks after Kylie Jenner was called out for recycling her products.
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Again, I thought that that was old news that Kylie Jenner recycles her products.
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I want to see celebrities only use the products they try to sell us for like a month or something to see how their skin actually looks.
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And no secret appointments to your dermatologist, girl.
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This is just the celebrities who have started their own beauty brands in the last one or two years.
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Yeah, so there's, so Scarlett has been added to the list of A-listers who have opened up their own beauty brands, including Harry Styles.
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Selena Gomez, Jennifer Lopez, Ariana Grande, Machine Gun Kelly.
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Ellen DeGeneres, Hailey Bieber, Jennifer Aniston, Billie Eilish, Addison Rae, and Priyanka Chopra Jones.
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It feels, if it feels like, like, to me, it feels like rich people just directly grabbing money out of your wallet and putting it in their own wallets.
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And I think, like, the real celebs' skincare drop would be if they just, like, paid to drop us off at their dermatologist.
00:53:29.540
Ryan Reynolds says he and Blake Lively are deeply and unreservedly sorry for getting married on a plantation.
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And also, Blake does a lot to spread awareness about human trafficking.
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So, apparently, they've already apologized because they got married in, like, 20.
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So, she wrote, recently, again, it was a giant bleeping mistake that can either cause you to shut down or it can reframe things and move you into action.
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It's like, Blake, are you going to go back in time and end slavery earlier?
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Like, how many people have had events at plantations is obviously, like, a hideous history.
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Like, are we allowed to look at them at the buildings and learn about the history?
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But, like, the venue should be the one in trouble.
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All you can do is worry about how you are moving forward.
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So, all we can do is learn from our mistakes and just try to be better today and tomorrow.
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So, it's like every two years, apologize for the wedding.
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Be sure to tune in next Tuesday at 7 p.m. Eastern time for the next episode of Misunderstood.
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