Miss Understood No. 31 — The Dirty Legacy Of Hugh Hefner
Summary
In part two of our two-part series on Hugh Hefner and Playboy, we discuss the allegations against him by some of his former Playboy bunnies. We talk about the allegations, why they exist, and what we think about them.
Transcript
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The show for the culturally and politically misunderstood lady or gent.
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This is part two of our two-part series, and it's actually our Dirty 30.
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And we were just last week talking about Nickelodeon.
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It was a whole week ago, so how could I possibly remember?
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Nickelodeon and Dan Schneider and the infantilization of women and that we're doing to ourselves.
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But today, we're going to be talking about Playboy.
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There's been a lot of dirt coming out about specifically Hugh Hefner and Playboy from some of his former bunnies.
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So before we get into the dirty details, let's just talk about maybe some history.
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So actually, in the beginning, which was around the 1960s, the bunnies were simply young women who worked as waitstaff in Playboy clubs.
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So prospective bunnies had to audition in order to get the job.
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Bunnies working at Playboy clubs had to abide by some strict rules.
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And they could immediately be fired for dating other employees or guests.
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A bunny mother, which won Playboy club's 1968 manual, describes as a role similar to that of a college advisor.
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In 1963, journalist Gloria Steinem went undercover as a bunny to write an expose.
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While Hefner claimed to be a proponent of sexual liberation, Steinem's reporting shone a light on some of the objectification and problematic working conditions the bunnies experienced.
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Few bunnies, by their original definition, exist.
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And then you fast forward, today the term bunnies is often used to describe Hefner's girlfriends as well as Playboy club employees.
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His girlfriends reportedly received a weekly stipend of $1,000 in cash along with room and board at the Playboy mansion, money for breast augmentation, and free hair care, according to the New York Times.
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Yeah, and they're also just like straight up like porn stars.
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And we're a little confused, I think, about what to think about some of these allegations.
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And we'll get into a little bit more why later.
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But let's start with one of the more recent ones that we've seen on the interwebs.
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Okay, so one of these first articles is from the New York Post.
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Playboy bunnies fed to Hef like meat in gross hoarder orgy room.
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It's kind of, so there's a lot, because some of the things, like, so, okay, so here is
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It says there was multiple allegations against Hugh Hefner, including, this is the quote,
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Subjecting Playboy models to sexual abuse and having sex with a dog.
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Very, it needs to be said that even though Hugh Hefner is, like, especially, actually,
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because he's not here to defend himself anymore, it's important that we absolutely say that
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Nothing here has been determined in a court of law.
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But it is being, there is a, like a, what's it called?
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Like a docu-series that's come out recently by A&E.
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It's a 10-part series called The Secret Life of a Playboy.
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And that's kind of why people are talking about this right now.
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So, and there's two former Playboy bunnies, specifically Holly Madison and Bridget Markart.
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And they detailed what it was like having unprotected sex with Hugh Hefner turn by turn.
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However, you read the article and Holly Madison, she was, and again, it grows.
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She was 21 when she moved into the mansion and Hugh Hefner was 75.
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And after a year of being a regular at the mansion, she decided to move out and be one
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And she said she had been assured that none of them actually had to have sex with Hefner.
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And it seemed like a nice and free place to live.
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And you made a great point before we started filming.
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Like, you went to be his boyfriend, girlfriend.
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And neither of us think that just because you're dating someone, does that mean you
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Not to mention he has multiple girlfriends at once.
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So, it's like he's obviously not an upstanding citizen.
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And he obviously considers you an object if he needs to pay his girlfriends to stay with
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And also, none of these things in this, any of these, like these girls, Holly Madison and
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Bridget, Mark Cart, or I'm just going to say Holly and Bridget, they have not alleged
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So, all of the, they say like they were fed in meat, like meat.
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It's all like, it's all like if you don't have sex with Hugh Hefner, you could lose your
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But it's not like he's forcing you or chaining you up.
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Like these, it's important to make that distinction because while I feel like this is very uncomfortable
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and disturbing, they could have packed up their bags at any time.
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Like according to them, according to them, they weren't locked in there.
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Apparently, he did blackmail those who lived in the house, according to people.
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And Holly also alleges that they were pressured to get plastic surgery.
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And apparently, Playboy bunnies were often targeted by club members.
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So, there's an FBI investigation and their former security guard, Jim Ellis, and Bunny
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Mother claimed that the women who worked at Playboy clubs are vulnerable to the club, alleging
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that the women were often drugged and assaulted and the men who frequent the club.
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So, this is actually even going back to the start of Playboy, like before Holly Madison
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In one 1978 incident, six Playboy bunnies were kidnapped, drugged, and raped while held
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captive in New Jersey, according to the New York Times.
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And the FBI were convinced that there was rampant drug use going on.
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And they targeted Hefner, who claimed it was a witch hunt.
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And it was none of these allegations were true.
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Like you can't how, like there aren't many values associated with Playboy, I'm going to
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Like what is the responsibility of the woman not to move into a house and do your research
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where you're definitely going to be forced to have sex with the owner who is like, who
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And it's confusing because some women are coming out in support of these women who are speaking
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But other people are completely opposed to what they're saying.
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And they consider him to be, he treated them well.
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One of his girlfriends previously wrote about Madison in a Facebook post.
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I never wrote a book to line my pockets with money.
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I moved on without condemning half the staff, his friends, or any of the other girls that
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If you're so hurt, give back the thousand dollars of cash Hef gave you every week or seven cars
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while you were there, along with your health care, cars, car insurance, golf cart, weekly
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hair salon visits, weekly clothing allowance, weekly makeup artists, and all the cash on
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your plastic surgery room and board with butler service, maid service, and high-end dogs.
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But I think it's interesting that she pretends to be this victim, and yet she was able to
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leave the house freely in 2008, and then she went off to write a book exposing Hugh
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But it's now, because these two girls, Holly and Bridget, have a podcast, and now they're
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And it's like, it's such a hard thing, because I do not, I won't just hashtag believe all
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And especially when you have a new platform, and you're trying to get views, having a big
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expose like this, where you're dishing out this juicy goss, is pretty profitable.
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So, but I also don't want to shame potential victims of abuse.
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Like, it's really, really, it's a tough conversation.
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It's just confusing, because Playboy is obviously about objectifying women.
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So, of course, you can expect that Hugh Hefner would objectify you and treat you as an object.
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Like, he has the right to take photos of you, because that's what the job is.
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He has the right to go out with you and hold your waist for photos.
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But then, when they are saying they were forced to have orgies with him without condoms, that's
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Yeah, after going out clubbing, it was twice a week they had orgies.
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But he doesn't have, like, he doesn't have the right to expect that of you.
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No, but I think that they shouldn't be so naive.
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They shouldn't be shocked that the old dirty man is an old dirty man.
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Like, he's a million years old, and you guys are, what, like, in your early 20s, and you're
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I mean, there's also other examples of him, about him having crocodile tears-
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This article, Playboy Bunny, say Hugh Hefner fake cried for sex.
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But it's also, it's, so it's super weird and creepy and weird.
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But it's also not the behavior of, like, a rapist.
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It's just, like, I don't think anyone here is accusing him of rape, but it's, like, at
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what point is manipulating women into having sex with you borderline rape?
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And he also had a black book that he reportedly used to keep tabs on them.
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So he'd keep track of when they collected their allowance.
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Yeah, but I was reading that, and I was like, yeah, of course.
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He doesn't want to get screwed over by these young, sharp women.
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But then it also went on to say it kept track of who slept with him and when.
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Because it's like, oh, Holly hasn't had sex with me in a week.
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Yeah, and apparently one of them, I think it was Holly, said that he would say something
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like, oh, you've been on your period for three weeks.
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Yeah, and I mean, apparently last week, people obtained an open letter signed by hundreds
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of former Playboy bunnies, Playmates, ex-girlfriends, and employees denouncing A&E's secrets of Playboy
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series and the recent allegations made against Hefner.
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It really is because Holly has a great opportunity to make a buck by spinning this story.
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But at the same time, like, you don't want to minimize real abuse.
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But I will, I just, it just occurred to me right now.
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All, like this, this article, Playboy bunnies feared Hefner's revenge porn book, wanted to
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Those are the same girls who say it was like having, it was disturbing having unprotected
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Those are the same girls who say they were fed to Hefner-like meat.
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So it's like, it's not like, it's only two people.
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It's not like the Nickelodeon story where it's like, oh, as time goes on, like more and
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more of them are coming out and saying like, oh my God, that happened to me too.
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It's like, it's really only the two of them and they recently launched a podcast.
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But then I also did a little more research and apparently there's another Playboy documentary
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which claims that Hugh Hefner trafficked women in an underground sex system and he was
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So actually, sorry, this is the same documentary, but it's been claimed that he allegedly trafficked
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women who hadn't made the cut into his elite Playboy bunny squad in an underground
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There were apparently clones of the Playboy mansion on a smaller scale and he would prey
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on these women, manipulate or groom them, his friends would, sorry, which included some
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Also revealed was the allegation that Hugh Hefner was in love with his live-in doctor,
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Mark Saginor, and his daughter confirmed that she believes that that's true.
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He's a homosexual who has, like, his own little bunny sex ring in his house with women.
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And apparently these women who went to these cloned mansions were told they could get a
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modeling contract but were instead drugged, raped, and videotaped.
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I want to know who these women are, though, like, who are they?
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Maybe it's showcased on the show more, but I haven't seen too many articles about this.
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It just, a lot of these articles, like, the title is super grabby.
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It's like this article's titled Secrets of Playboy Bombshells, Sex Rings, Kidnappings,
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and FBI Investigations, and, like, you touched on the FBI investigation, kidnappings, but
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I saw that he collected sex tapes on the women as collateral.
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I wrote this as, like, you have a ton of young people living in your house and you're elderly,
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Apparently he had cameras everywhere, and even, like, his former security guard says that
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Every place had microphones and cameras, and you had to be careful because you knew you
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Not really, especially when you have a bunch of randos living in your house.
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That's strange, but I couldn't actually find specifics.
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But it's also not surprising, though, because it's like the porn industry, as we've talked
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about before, has great ties to human trafficking and sexually exploiting and abusing women.
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So why are we surprised that this playboy mogul has, if it's true, assuming it's true, allegedly
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You can't expect anyone in the porn industry to be upstanding.
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In fact, it's one of the most evil industries in the world.
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Yeah, and like, as a woman, if you want to be respected, like, don't become a playboy
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And again, we stress, we do any act of abuse, like any kind of abuse, we condemn that.
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I don't want any woman to be harmed by a creepy old man.
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Like, these are, there are women who literally are being kidnapped and held against their
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Like, that's, that is a whole different situation.
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And like, literally need, they need to be rescued.
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But there's really no evidence that he was kidnapping women.
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I think that it involves a lot more time and thorough investigation on our part to be
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But I also, to play the, not really the devil's advocate, but just to flip it a little, like
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these women who came out in support of him that signed that letter to people, do you think,
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do you also wonder if maybe there's a bit of Stockholm syndrome going on here?
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Well, that's what, that's what Holly Madison said.
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Like, and I feel like that kind of makes sense because you live in this strange bubble
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Like, she was forced to quit her waitressing job or something because he wanted her to spend
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And like, I'm sure, and like, apparently he like monitored like her makeup and like what
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And I was like, those are all telltale signs of abuse, like an abusive relationship.
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It's not out of the realm of possibility that these women who are like supporting him
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Um, I just want to read this quote from this eOnline article about, um, the sex tapes,
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They were told in the case of Hefner's death, his executive secretary, Mary O'Connor, was
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Former executive assistant, Lisa Loving Barrett said that she was told that they were put in
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Can you imagine being stranded on a desert island and you see a barrel coming your way?
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So Kate Moss also recently came out and said that there was nothing seedy or gross taking
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Like, of course, you know, it reminds me of, like, you know those episodes where you
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see, like, they drop grandma and grandpa off at the old folks' home and then the old
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They brought out the nice china and, like, covered all the walls, like, the holes in the
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But then as soon as everyone leaves, it's, like, the grave, the, like, bats come out and stuff
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So, he's not going to, like, force her to have sex with him.
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But she also said it was, like, really chill family vibes.
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But, yeah, it could be exactly like that Adam Sandler movie.
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Especially when it seems like just Holly Madison was able to leave whenever she wanted.
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But it is weird that they were getting $1,000 a week.
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Like, is that enough to save up for and live off of and then move out?
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So, it's like he's giving them just enough money so that they stay there.
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It's not big enough to save up for and be like, okay, well, I don't want to be treated
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But they had to do some stuff for it that I am not willing to do.
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And then, yeah, and just I think maybe the Stockholm Syndrome thing, we should unpack that,
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Because, I don't know, maybe he was kind of grooming them in a way, you know?
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And this, we love talking about grooming on the show.
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But, I mean, there is a case to be made that he was manipulating these women.
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And when you're wide-eyed and bushy-tailed, like, you move to L.A.
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and you just want to be famous and you want to be rich and you want to live the luxy life.
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Even if this old freak comes along and offers you those things.
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I just think, like, maybe have a bit more respect for yourself.
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Like, maybe you could have made it on your own.
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Yeah, like, you could, you modeled naked, maybe model the clothes on.
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Because it's so, like you just said, it's so poignant in this conversation specifically
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because here's an old man inviting these young women into his home and then allegedly
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engaging in sex with them that they didn't want to have.
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So, it says, a woman who was groomed by her married high school teacher when she was
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just 16 reveals tactics he used to lure her into a relationship in a stark warning to
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Now, I read the entire article and they don't list those tactics.
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Because it's coming out in her documentary called Keep This Between Us.
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Abusers often observe possible victims and select them based on ease of access.
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So, if this person is vulnerable in any way, i.e. a child.
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Because as we've talked about countless times on the show, children aim to please.
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So, that actually is one thing this teacher did.
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He invited all the kids over for a movie night, which is really weird.
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And when the other kids left and his wife was out of the room, he leaned in and kissed
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Because he would bring them into his house and make them live.
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Like, not make them, but like, invite them to live there and like, kind of not let them
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do what, like, quit their other waitressing jobs and police how they acted and who they
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He totally isolated them from the rest of the world.
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So, abusers attempt to gain trust of a potential victim through gifts, attention sharing secrets,
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which is something we've talked about in the wake of the don't say gay bill.
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Um, and other means to make them feel that they have a caring relationship and to train
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It's like, sort of like, you've already done something bad, so we shouldn't tell anyone
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Or it's like our special little secret no one needs to know, you know?
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And it's like, it kind of gives you, it makes you feel like you have power over people
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because you're like, I'm special, but I, I can't tell anyone because it's too special
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Um, desensitization, desensitization to touch and discussion of sexual topics.
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So they'll often start to touch a victim in ways that appear harmless, such as hugging,
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And then they later escalate, escalate it to increasingly more sexual contact.
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Well, that's also something you have rooted because they were in it.
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He probably just normalized like, oh, we're getting naked.
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We're getting, we're having a naked swimming party.
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And to that, uh, one of the blackmailing tactics he'd use is when after a night of
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partying, the girls would kind of get together and he'd take photos of them in sexual positions.
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That's, you know, my scrapbook looked a lot different, Hugh.
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Attempt by abusers to make their behavior seem natural.
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So to avoid raising suspicions for teens who may be closer to age to the abuser, it can
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be particularly hard to recognize tactics using grooming.
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So be alert for signs that your teen has a relationship with an adult that includes
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secrecy, undue influence or control, uh, or pushes personal boundaries.
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But they make it seem so sexy and they normalize it and they romanticize it.
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Like, even though he's only like 22 or whatever, because he's fresh out of school.
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Because she's, her frontal lobe is not developed yet.
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She can't consent to any of this stuff because she's still like a growing baby.
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And so any adult that goes in and tries to, you know, lure a kid.
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And it's like, you don't have adults of your own that you can get with.
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And then of course there's online grooming, which often involves adults creating fake
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profiles and posing as children or teens, which I think we see that a lot.
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And I think that really is something that's prevalent probably in the transgender, like
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Like just these like adults encouraging kids and comforting them and making them feel normal.
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This is a video from Steven Crowder and his team went undercover at a drag show and it
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It's about a 15 minute video, but we're just going to play two minutes of it right from
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the middle because I think it, does it involve grooming?
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I think they just don't know the full story because this is not about, this is not about
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This is not about opening their eyes to this and making them see this.
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And I teach middle school so it's important for my kids to know.
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No, I love you because tomorrow you love him and then you love her and you're going to
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I fought in the army for 23 years, 60 points, so that y'all can do what you do and I can
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do, but don't involve children is all I'm saying.
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If there are, they're with their families and they're just enjoying a great time.
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Clearly it's fun for the whole family approved for all ages.
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Yeah, there's three or four of them, but these girls are all fully closed.
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It's almost as if sexualization is the entire goal.
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Here's what Nida Montana tweeted out just two days after the event.
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Physically afraid to go in and her mom was like pushing her in.
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I really liked this video because they had the guy on the street who was talking to protesters
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And then there was hidden cameras inside the actual show who were just like remaining silent.
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And the, like that one girl at the beginning is like, oh, I don't think there's children in there.
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And there's like, oh, if there is, they're with their family.
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Is it okay if you're with your family watching porn together?
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Many have come out in this season of time where drag queens are a thing.
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Like a lot of it, it's a lot of sexual innuendo.
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There's nothing inherently sexual about a man dressing like a woman.
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Like one of the women in this video, like this one actually.
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But she's saying like, oh, like what about Mrs. Doubtfire?
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Are you actually relating this drag queen doing death drops who's wearing a thong?
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And the reason I wanted to play it in this episode is just because like they, I don't believe
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that the drag queens dancing at these shows think that they're grooming or are actively,
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like, I would guess like most of them are not actively trying to groom children, but it's
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I'm going to just give them the benefit of the doubt.
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I'm hoping it's an accidental cause of what they're doing.
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And, and it's like, I think we should accept drag queens as human beings.
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We shouldn't bully people who want to do drag as an art form or dress like women.
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But when you take like the pendulum has swung so far from being like, oh, let's not.
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I, I isolate and bully these people to now like, well, it's a family thing and bring your
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And we talked about this in the, our episode about Nickelodeon.
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And it's like, we see parents pushing their kids to impress this adult, you know, Dan
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And it's like forcing your kids into these kinds of things is, it's inappropriate.
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And as parents, you're supposed to protect your children.
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I understand that, but I do understand that protecting children.
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It's kind of, it should just be going without saying.
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Like, I don't think I should, we shouldn't even need to talk about this.
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Like people used to beat up gays in the locker room.
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That we need to go back to a happy middle ground where drag queens could do the art of
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And at this, this was hosted, this crowd of video was hosted at a distillery.
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Where people are getting hammered in the middle of the day.
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And drag queens are, you're putting money down there out, like in their underwear.
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Yes, they're wearing tights because they have to hide the padding that makes them give them
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And then second of all, where is the, the dollar bills is like a stripper thing.
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If you see a kid in the fricking audience, they get out.
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Don't let them put dollar bills down your G-string.
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Like, I actually think that's the honorable thing to do.
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And punch their parents in the head on the way out.
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Like calling these dumb parents out for their crap.
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Like, why did you bring your child to the science centers down the street?
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And it's like, I understand, like, there's so much pressure to be deemed inclusive, but
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it's like, you're so concerned about how people view you that you're willing to force
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your kids into something that's going to screw them up.
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Like, it's not healthy for kids to be exposed to these kinds of things.
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Do you want them dressing up in sparkly thongs and dancing and doing death drops and getting
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dollar bills shoved in their underwear when they go to school on Monday?
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And it's not even that, but just being exposed to any sort of explicit sexual behavior or performance.
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Kids should not be watching anything that involves sex.
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But parents, you shouldn't care what people think.
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Your job is to protect your child and to raise them and to shield them from the evils
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We got it up here and we're taking it back down again.
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I think we went all over the place, but there's so much done packed with Playboy.
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