Rebel News Podcast - Miss Understood No. 35 — Feminists Lied, Femininity Died

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to misunderstood the show for the culturally and politically misunderstood lady

00:00:26.080 or gent or non-binary or non-human we are your hosts i'm nat and i'm cat this week we are talking

00:00:35.920 about all the lies women have been sold basically women are getting by feminism oh okay we're gonna

00:00:45.380 skip the culture shock because we have so there's your culture shock that was shocking yeah sorry

00:00:51.460 we're just gonna dive right in okie dokie so megan trainer says nurses implied that her use of

00:00:59.440 antidepressants caused her newborn to be sent to the nicu cute so she got engaged in 2017 and they 0.98

00:01:06.100 married a year later to her uh her husband daryl sabera and they welcomed their first child in

00:01:10.400 february of 2021 and in an interview with romper megan recently revealed that her pregnancy and

00:01:16.800 birth were anything but easy and she uh was on antidepressants when she was pregnant and her

00:01:24.020 doctor told her that was fine it was a mild dose yeah yeah it was a low dose and her doctor said it

00:01:28.400 was fine and they'll they'll do that and then her baby was sent to the n icu which is i guess natal

00:01:36.420 intensive care unit yeah and i guess towards the end of her pregnancy doctors told her the baby was

00:01:41.340 breached and they immediately scheduled a c-section so she was told kind of two lies in my opinion

00:01:46.780 because c-sections come with greater risks but also physicians are actually routinely paid more for a

00:01:53.680 c-section so in often times women actually go and get c-sections that they don't necessarily need 1.00

00:02:00.220 that is absolutely terrifying and disgusting and horrible right because the thing is when you're

00:02:04.180 pregnant i mean you're going to experience birth soon but i imagine you're very vulnerable and you

00:02:09.060 want to do whatever is best for your baby so if a doctor is pressuring you like oh you got to get a

00:02:13.380 c-section but in reality they're just late for a reservation and they want to make more money

00:02:17.140 that's quite manipulative that's why i went with a midwife matt smart yeah smart and i'm taking a

00:02:22.020 hypnobirthing class gonna be great gonna pop that baby right out of there gonna fly right out of you 1.00

00:02:26.320 so that's the first lie that i think megan and many women have been sold by doctors and i think the

00:02:32.440 second one is the antidepressant thing yeah talk about a lack of informed consent maybe yes so this is

00:02:39.000 something i see all the time on r slash pregnant on reddit where women are routinely like i mean on 1.00

00:02:45.480 that particular subreddit women are like it's fine you can have a little wine you can have some fish you 1.00

00:02:51.080 can be on antidepressants it's like maybe some of that is true and maybe like maybe women are a little 1.00

00:02:57.680 overly cautious when they're pregnant i know i like i think with your first you're often like overly

00:03:02.660 cautious and we don't know like i don't think having a glass of wine is going to kill your kid

00:03:07.420 but the the general attitude on that in this like toxic mommy culture is just like it's fine 0.72

00:03:14.600 you shouldn't have to change your life too much like whatever is convenient for you so if you're

00:03:18.420 depressed like you should be and your doctor says it's okay and that's the thing like your doctor

00:03:23.100 says okay so it's okay but your doctor might also not know your history not take the time to actually

00:03:29.560 delve into the actual drug they might be they might have like a deal with the pharmaceutical agent yeah

00:03:35.380 that's like oh push it on because like i well and the issue are so many yeah and the issue with

00:03:40.920 prescription drugs like antidepressants is that they're typically a first resort for doctors and

00:03:46.060 it just speaks to how doctors in 2022 aren't really they don't want to cure you they want like a customer

00:03:51.780 for life and we know big pharma is very keen on that um but the reason we're kind of tying the

00:03:57.400 her newborn going to the nicu to antidepressants is because the nurses kept asking her if she was on

00:04:03.300 antidepressants right and all and obviously she was told that it wouldn't affect her but the nurses 0.51

00:04:09.020 kind of alluded to the fact that maybe that was the reason her baby wasn't doing well imagine the

00:04:13.800 shock that you've just given birth and there's something wrong with your child and her kid is

00:04:17.600 okay now but imagine the shock of like okay we have to take him to the intensive care unit um and do all

00:04:24.620 these things to him and it's not it's you know touch and go and then they're like did you take uh any

00:04:30.980 prescription drugs and you're like yeah but my doctor said it's fine like imagine the feeling

00:04:34.760 the guilt and the distress that you would feel in that moment where it's like i was told it's okay

00:04:38.280 and like thank god her baby's okay but what if he wasn't yeah and that's the that's the medical

00:04:43.000 profession's fault like you know it's medical professionals fault and i just think it means

00:04:48.080 we can't take anything that our medical professionals say at face value in 2022 we need to

00:04:52.740 we need to do our own research and that's so sad that we can't trust these people who are in

00:04:56.720 positions of authority well speaking of which uh they recently found that um the mrna vaccine

00:05:04.220 transfers from breastfeeding women's breast milk into the baby which is something that again women 0.98

00:05:10.580 were gaslit and lied to the entire time we were told pregnant women should get the vaccine 0.98

00:05:14.680 breastfeeding women should get the vaccine and now there are studies coming out um here is the

00:05:21.140 results of this study it says of 11 lactating individuals enrolled lactating individuals

00:05:26.460 yes lactating individuals because you know men can do that too for sure for sure i know plenty

00:05:31.020 of men who lactate uh trace amounts of the mrna vaccine were detected in seven samples from five

00:05:37.780 different participants at various times up to 45 hours post-vaccination yeah so so they they go on

00:05:45.300 to say we believe it is safe to breastfeed after maternal covid19 vaccination however caution is warranted

00:05:50.280 about breastfeeding children younger than six months in the first 48 hours why is it under six months

00:05:55.460 i'm sorry who is breastfeeding over six months i think a lot of people do actually i have a lot to

00:06:01.640 learn no i think a lot of people do for a while longer than that but i mean i don't know every

00:06:06.000 every mom's different but why what so suddenly after they're six month and one day old it's different

00:06:11.300 it's different like i don't understand i think like as your baby gets older and older you start

00:06:16.900 introducing again i need to learn i haven't taken my baby class yet it just seems like you start

00:06:21.040 introducing food like definitely before a year it just seems like random to me though it's definitely

00:06:26.500 random and it's also like the most vulnerable time that a child would need breast milk is when

00:06:31.520 they're newborn yeah absolutely because they're because they can't literally can't have anything

00:06:35.120 else they're growing berber and according to daily wire the journal of american medical association

00:06:40.200 uh released the study to the public and has issued a warning for women breastfeeding infants so 0.53

00:06:45.560 they're saying caution is warranted regarding breastfeeding infants younger than six months in the first two

00:06:50.100 days after maternal covid19 vaccination and it's like a little too late yeah it's a little too late

00:06:55.520 for their study you've been lying to us for two years now yeah well i guess the vaccine hadn't rolled

00:07:00.060 out for the first year and a bit um at least a year you've been lying to everyone and telling them

00:07:05.440 that they absolutely should not question this at all whether they're pregnant or breastfeeding 0.79

00:07:09.460 and that it can't affect their child child and now we find that it can yeah it's just such an

00:07:13.860 abusive power because as we already mentioned pregnant people are vulnerable and hormonal and the 0.98

00:07:18.540 pressure like the pressure for these women to get the covid19 vaccine not only to protect themselves

00:07:23.660 but their baby yeah like there is such an amount of pressure and it's just so evil and it's so

00:07:29.800 manipulative because these poor women who maybe didn't want to get it did and now it may have 1.00

00:07:34.960 negative implications on their child's health yeah it's like you should get the vaccine because it'll

00:07:39.260 help your baby and now they're like well maybe you shouldn't have had that vaccine because it might

00:07:42.300 hear your baby it's like too late babe yeah too late yeah but that leads into their next story

00:07:48.800 covid19 vaccines linked to temporary changes in menstrual cycle new study confirms breaking news

00:07:53.820 color me shocked yeah this okay nat how many girls do you know who took the vaccine that got 0.98

00:07:59.640 changes in their menstrual cycle i mean gabriel finocchio who is like a he owns an app called

00:08:05.340 theosu he was kicked off instagram for literally just sharing women's testimonies about how the covid19

00:08:11.480 vaccine affected their periods yeah i know several women who were like oh yeah my period was messed up

00:08:17.180 but i did that yeah it's fine but it's just because of stress or something so yeah well that's what they

00:08:21.800 said the study conducted by the u.s based national institute of health found that the increase in

00:08:25.940 cycle length resolved for most of the nearly 20 000 study participants following vaccination and i wonder

00:08:31.860 if any women who were gaslit about this in the past are going to get an apology from the mainstream media

00:08:37.400 do you think they will no no they won't and also what's crazy how did you just say most of yeah

00:08:43.520 like most of the women in the study had changes in their menstrual cycle and we've talked about this

00:08:47.920 before but when as a woman your menstrual cycle is a perfect indication of your health yeah and 1.00

00:08:53.960 well it's not perfect i guess but it's it's a really good it's a really good indication of your

00:08:58.060 health so when you're a healthy woman and your menstrual cycle changes all of a sudden you go to

00:09:02.520 the doctor because you're like something there could be something off you could have a cyst you

00:09:05.640 could have it could be anything like you're super stressed or weight loss stress like i was on the

00:09:11.520 pill and i stopped getting mine for a while so i switched pills and i still didn't feel right so i

00:09:15.440 got off the pill but it's like that is an indication that something's changed in your body and you need to

00:09:20.200 look into it but they're like oh no you're fine like they literally said um ctv wrote an article in 2021

00:09:25.480 women's health and immunology experts are hesitant to say if menstrual changes are a result of the

00:09:30.560 vaccine until further research is conducted which it now has uh but noted that added stress of the

00:09:37.080 pandemic may contribute to shifts in one's menstrual cycles sure convenient stress might cause yes but

00:09:43.300 it's like what a convenient thing that you're saying like if let's just say the sample size is 20 000

00:09:48.060 like it is in that study 20 like let's say 18 000 of those women or 15 000 of those women have changes

00:09:53.500 and they're like oh you're all stressed from the pandemic yeah i don't think so sweetheart it's a bit of a

00:09:57.880 cop-out and i think the real issue with all this new data coming out is that it proves that the jabs 0.96

00:10:02.400 are experimental and the women who took the jab are now seeing the implications of that and it's like

00:10:07.800 it's so unfair like they are the experiments and it's gaslighting it's gaslighting yeah yeah it's

00:10:14.080 and it's it's just abusive it's just abusive i don't know no it's fine because they can tell you at

00:10:20.540 the time that it's perfectly safe and to take it and then they can a year later an article will come

00:10:24.900 out or a study come out like well maybe it's like those women already took it yeah so what are they 1.00

00:10:30.940 supposed to do yeah nothing yeah and obviously our menstrual cycle represents a woman's fertility so 0.96

00:10:36.700 what is this down the road yeah and down the road we don't know yet how this is going to affect a

00:10:42.540 woman's fertility and they don't either and they don't either and it's just so unfair it's so unfair 1.00

00:10:47.260 that we're taking away we talk about reproductive health all these progressive raw rawing about

00:10:51.800 reproductive health well this this is a violation of that they literally call it reproductive rights

00:10:56.160 yeah like this is this is your right to reproduce is being taken away actively by doctors who don't

00:11:01.840 know like they could have said here's a vaccine you should take it if you are this and this and this

00:11:07.660 and this susceptible to covid just note that we don't have they don't have to say it will kill your

00:11:12.780 period it will make you infertile we're not saying that we're just saying they didn't know so they

00:11:16.040 could have said we don't know what the effects will be on your fertility but instead they were like

00:11:19.920 it's safe it's safe it's fine yeah you won't get covid if you take it yeah but that's none of

00:11:24.820 that turned out to be true and i mean we'll move on but like one of the one of the other issues no we

00:11:30.420 won't but so now new news is coming out about some of the negative effects and adverse reactions

00:11:36.700 and this is only like a year after the vaccine passports rolled out what what are we going to

00:11:41.360 discover five years down the road 10 years down the road 20 years like we have no idea the long-term

00:11:46.120 of these women who were breastfeeding exactly and getting the vaccine or like someone who yeah got 0.95

00:11:50.740 the vaccine when she was pregnant like we have no idea and it's so ridiculous it's so ridiculous and

00:11:56.420 like i really hope that there's justice for all the governments who forced this on people who

00:12:01.740 pressured people because it's so evil to experiment on people it's just you're experimenting on people

00:12:08.160 yep while lying to them cool great okay next well another lie speaking of more lies lies that's the

00:12:14.060 theme all right um this article is called why i'm the only obgyn who's not prescribing the birth

00:12:20.940 control pill i mentioned my own anecdotal evidence uh earlier um that when i was on the pill i got

00:12:27.680 stopped getting my period i lost a ton of weight i was moody switched pills i got kind of depressed

00:12:32.220 when i went on the pill for the first time like i was just like raging and yeah that was not great

00:12:38.720 to be around like three sizes yeah which is like the opposite of what's supposed to happen it's the

00:12:43.200 opposite of what a woman wants um so apparently there's actually not a drop of natural hormones 0.99

00:12:47.860 found in any of in any brand of birth control pill um so rather than containing natural hormones

00:12:53.560 they're synthetic versions of endogenous estrada dial and progesterone and mother nature has never

00:13:00.980 seen any of sorry has never seen these at any time in human evolution so they're basically

00:13:05.320 pseudo hormones um which obviously interfere with the woman's key function and her ability to have a 1.00

00:13:12.580 natural hormone production yeah so i think that when we're sold the pill we're told that they're

00:13:18.860 naturally occurring hormones in your body yeah you're just like i think people don't question it at

00:13:23.820 all no of course not because again like i when i was on the i was like 19 and i was at the

00:13:30.220 university of western ontario clinic like the whatever just handed it out and they're just

00:13:35.280 like here you go yeah you need to be on the pill you're not on the pill you need to be on the pill

00:13:38.280 and i was like i was like lollipops okay like okay i guess um i guess it's sold to us in that it can

00:13:45.320 prevent pregnancy and that's why people sure and i think that if you want to be sexually active and

00:13:50.700 not resort to having an abortion or you're not ready for kids like that's a good option for you 1.00

00:13:54.720 but you should know exactly yeah informed consent you should just know the risks and you might

00:13:58.900 you might experience certain uh side effects and you should be told those things yeah so some of

00:14:05.280 the side effects include blood clots depression and suicidal thoughts uh hypertensive potential

00:14:11.460 effects years down the line can also manifest including irritable bowel syndrome autoimmune

00:14:15.860 diseases osteoporosis uh heart disease diabetes insulin resistance kidney disease poor vaginal health and

00:14:22.420 even dementia oh those are all pretty serious i mean at least if you get the dementia you'll forget

00:14:28.060 about all the other problems that'd be great yeah silver lining i guess yeah um so that's great

00:14:33.420 yeah and i mean birth control kind of is interesting too to think about because although it it is a way

00:14:38.820 for women to prevent pregnancy which can be seen as empowering it's also something that empowers men

00:14:44.420 because it it basically absolves them from personal responsibility much like an abortion

00:14:49.200 um so i i don't know there are pros and cons to that as well like is it really for women 0.99

00:14:53.960 i i know you know that when a girl says to a guy oh i'm on the pill he doesn't maybe feel the need

00:15:00.680 to wear a condom or whatever and she should have a like a say in that but sometimes men will just

00:15:04.680 like take it off if they think that there's no chance of pregnancy and it's like that's not

00:15:08.900 empowering for women at all well not to mention it incentivizes cheating like if you if a man or

00:15:14.280 like if a man's married and he's like well i can't knock up my mistress so i'm just gonna go

00:15:18.520 to town like i mean have you ever seen mad men that's when the pill was first introduced and

00:15:23.400 around that time in the 1960s so just seems a little sus to me it is sus it is sus but but obviously

00:15:29.840 we're not saying you shouldn't be on the pill everyone's body's different my body did not like

00:15:33.440 it some women live on the pill for years and years and then they come off it and then they have 1.00

00:15:37.580 children and their fertility is intact and that's cool and it is one of the things that allowed women 0.97

00:15:42.680 to have more uh choice and and autonomy and control and time over their sexual reproduction

00:15:50.320 their fertility yeah that's cool i think definitely not anti no contraceptive especially because it's

00:15:57.020 way better than an abortion yes yes better than having a kid that you can't take care of but it's 0.95

00:16:01.280 interesting that our society never tries to offer alternatives because there are other ways to track

00:16:07.800 your cycle and to prevent pregnancy exactly we've talked about them in a previous episode and much

00:16:12.400 like the vaccines like doctors are just so quick to prescribe drugs to people and it's like especially

00:16:18.940 young vulnerable women exactly and it's like okay so a lot of the times they sell it to women like oh

00:16:23.680 this will cure your cure your acne or help you with pcos and stuff like that but having like a healthy

00:16:28.680 diet and exercise and those other there are other alternatives to treating those sorts of issues so

00:16:32.900 it's like why isn't why aren't our doctors trying to push for healthy alternatives rather than just

00:16:37.720 giving them a pill and hoping it solves all their problems i just no i think it's icky yeah it's anyway

00:16:43.380 okay moving on okay here's a fun article this one is just for fun um it's from the atlantic it's called

00:16:49.440 the best skin care is being rich and it sounds like it's from the onion or something but it's not and

00:16:55.040 it's true um so true there's a quick quote here celebrities wouldn't be as distractingly beautiful

00:17:00.580 without dermatologists estheticians and the women behind the beauty counters at bergdorf gordman

00:17:05.180 yeah goodman sorry you can drink as much water and wear as much sunscreen as you want but the

00:17:09.540 most effective skincare trick is being rich yeah it's funny because the article also says like

00:17:15.520 uh general wisdom of skincare has two simple steps do healthy things wash your face avoid the sun stay

00:17:21.540 hydrated wear sunscreen and get plenty of sleep of sleep step two apply the right goop to your face in

00:17:26.340 the form of creams and serums if you find the right product and live the skincare lifestyle

00:17:30.280 no alcohol no dairy don't enjoy anything then you'll be rewarded with the glow of the youthful

00:17:34.980 and righteous yeah i know but it's like um or you could just have an exorbitant exorbitant amount of

00:17:42.700 wealth and just spend it at the dermatologist and and this is a lie that's sold to women i think in 1.00

00:17:48.480 two parts number one because celebrities are always like oh it's just i drink a lot of water and that's

00:17:52.960 why my skin is so beautiful little mascara and then number two the the way for us to achieve

00:17:58.420 beauty much like they have is to spend loads and loads of money so it's like the self-love movement

00:18:03.860 is so expensive yeah it's so expensive i've mentioned this before those little fridges

00:18:09.480 yeah i want one but i need to it's a side point but they're like oh you need this little fridge to

00:18:14.160 put beside your bed for your night cream and it's like do i do i need that do you need it do i need

00:18:18.080 yes you do but still but the point is is it's not going to make me feel as beautiful as the women

00:18:24.040 that i see on instagram who have tons of money to spend and those women don't even feel that 1.00

00:18:28.440 beautiful because they're still filtering the heck out of their faces and i think that it's never

00:18:32.140 enough it's that's the point you always have to take the next level instead of us regular 99 percenters

00:18:37.740 comparing ourselves to the fake filtered versions of the one percent that we see we should just try and

00:18:43.060 be comfortable in our skin and yeah and do the things like get well i don't think we should avoid

00:18:48.240 sun no but we should drink lots of water eat a healthy diet like exercise exercise i like when

00:18:54.880 i'm not pregnant do enjoy alcohol once in a while so i wouldn't say avoid it all come all together but

00:18:59.700 no but your skin will be better everything in moderation exactly yeah your skin will be better if

00:19:03.000 you eat less sugar if you drink less alcohol but but live your lives because you're not going to have

00:19:07.120 that perfect glass skin that you see on instagram first of all it's filtered second of all they're rich so

00:19:11.080 let's not compare ourselves to those people yeah and again like this is a another lie that's sold

00:19:15.920 to women because we're always told we just got to love ourselves more just buy this just do that and 1.00

00:19:20.260 it's like love yourself but also buy this stuff exactly and it's like we should not as you just

00:19:24.360 said compare ourselves to these people who have endless resources and money and it's like

00:19:29.100 you know time and and then it's even more of a slap in the face to us normal folk when these

00:19:33.760 celebrities sell skincare products to us that we know they're not using like kim kardashian is not using her 0.99

00:19:38.340 stupid skincare line her overpriced skincare line like she's not so don't listen to these people 1.00

00:19:44.520 yeah learn about your own body yeah and uh and you know what cera v survey cera v cera v cera v 1.00

00:19:51.940 it's great derma it's dermatologist recommended drugstore brand it's great and look at her skin 0.70

00:19:57.780 she's literally grow it's like 11 it's like 11 dollars for a for a cleanser right you don't need to

00:20:03.420 look at her millions of dollars she looks like an angel yeah well it's okay does that to you 0.97

00:20:06.900 pregnancy does that okay so also just get pregnant yeah you want great skin okay all right moving on 0.98

00:20:12.800 how modern day feminism fails to be pro-woman so modern feminism fails to be pro-women because it 0.99

00:20:18.320 brushes off those who don't believe that smashing the patriarchy or breaking socially constructed

00:20:22.680 gender roles will solve our problems yeah um then they go on to say that character trumps gender 0.98

00:20:28.500 men can be jerks women can be witches etc etc and um mod and then it goes on to say modern feminism 0.99

00:20:35.340 also fails to be pro-women in that virtue such as piety purity domesticity and submissiveness are 0.99

00:20:41.320 scorn snubbed and degraded so basically it's targeting all you christian women really i wanted so

00:20:46.600 i totally agree with this article in general i just like the the part that you just talked about um

00:20:54.040 piety purity domesticity and submissiveness i don't like personally think you should be submissive

00:21:01.700 to anyone but god well you're actually called in the bible to submit to your husband in the new

00:21:07.160 testament but have you looked up the definition of submissive because it's literally giving power

00:21:11.840 to someone else over your life so like well when you're married though you become one anyway yes

00:21:16.660 and you should be that is submissive i guess but it's sort of like the actual definition of submissive

00:21:22.500 is literally like you give someone else power over you i think in terms of giving that to god sure

00:21:29.340 and like my husband and i like he takes the lead on many things but there's things that he will

00:21:35.100 take my advice on like it's like well it's still you're still in a relationship yeah like i think

00:21:41.240 that you could take it too far where you're like yeah where you're like in a sub dom situation where

00:21:46.720 you're like yes master but that would not be biblical that would be yeah fair enough yeah fair enough but i i

00:21:51.940 agree with you like that that is a it's a big word but and it's a and it's a loaded word people get

00:21:56.440 really upset by it and i wanted to see the definition because i'm like well maybe it's not

00:22:00.320 as bad the definition is pretty hard in the biblical sense it's just like like men are called to love

00:22:06.240 their wives women are called to respect their husbands and submit to their husbands as in like 1.00

00:22:12.520 the way you would submit to god okay yeah but i don't know but i feel like that should be more mutual

00:22:18.120 like maybe i'm a raging feminist but it's like i'm not gonna just be like oh whatever

00:22:22.700 you think like well i think you should still think critically and you're obviously gonna look out for

00:22:28.040 yourself like you at the end of the day all you have is you yeah or like what i think is best for

00:22:32.620 the family it's like if he says no we're doing it this way and i have if i'm like i don't actually

00:22:36.980 dictatorship yeah like i don't actually think that maybe you don't have all the facts here like i don't

00:22:41.160 i'm not gonna um be rude or like no no i agree with snarky about it but it's like maybe we should

00:22:48.080 rethink this and like if you were truly submissive maybe and maybe it's not actually being truly

00:22:53.000 submissive in a biblical sense but maybe if you misinterpreted that yeah you'd be like well i

00:22:57.280 might have a better idea but he knows best because he's the man it's like maybe he doesn't girl maybe

00:23:01.120 he doesn't no i agree give him your two cents i mean i'm this is one of the things where i continue to

00:23:05.640 fall short as a wife because i am so stubborn so i mean i'm not i'm not here pointing fingers at

00:23:11.820 anyone i just am saying that's what the bible says and i think there's nuance to it yes for sure

00:23:16.560 obviously and i think that's why people get upset at the bible because they're like oh obey your

00:23:19.920 husband yeah there are but your but your husband's also called to love you the way jesus loved loves you

00:23:27.480 and jesus literally died for you so that's actually a heavier burden to carry like that's actually

00:23:32.400 theirs is a little harder thanks babe yeah okay um do better men no i'm just kidding i'm just

00:23:37.160 kidding um but yeah i agree with you um i just think what the issue is with feminism which we've 1.00

00:23:45.780 talked about like countlessly is that women just should just be allowed to have a choice of what 0.99

00:23:50.740 kind of woman they want to be like if you want to stay at home we should we should respect that like 0.99

00:23:54.800 there are all these feminist claims to be pro-choice except for when it comes to women choosing to be a 1.00

00:23:59.060 mom yeah or anything that's domestic or feminine at all it's like oh you you're just you're you're 0.67

00:24:05.280 submitting to some male like thing it's like no actually i want to do that and that's what i choose

00:24:12.280 to do exactly and that's empowering because you're choosing that life for yourself and that means you'll

00:24:16.680 be good at it and you'll be happy doing it obviously if you live in a culture where forced exactly

00:24:21.580 like in a ren where it's like you literally can't get a job you can't go to university you can't be a

00:24:26.780 member of parliament or whatever it is that's not empowering that's not choice but in here in

00:24:32.380 canada we do enjoy so much power and choice but you're always pressured like nat just said to

00:24:39.320 choose career to choose to be the taxpayer to choose to be the heart cutthroat businesswoman it's like

00:24:44.420 why is it not okay to choose to be a domestic woman yeah i i completely agree and it kind of

00:24:52.000 speaks to the fact that feminism is trying to erase femininity in a way because it's like that's 1.00

00:24:58.040 in our nature a lot of women just feel a calling and a pull to that because it's just who they are 1.00

00:25:03.880 because that's the way god made us and again there's a nuance there like everyone's different

00:25:08.040 not all women feel absolutely like our next author um that we're going to talk about megan murphy like

00:25:14.380 in this article here uh no women can't have it all she talks about like her personal choice was not 0.99

00:25:21.100 to have children yeah and she's content she's content she's like i don't know how old she is

00:25:25.000 but she's like i don't want to have children i never did i feel the same way as i did when i was 18

00:25:28.800 but women who do want to have children you're told constantly that you can put it off put your career 1.00

00:25:35.080 first um you have all the time in the world time in the world you can you can get ivf you can use a

00:25:40.140 surrogate you can basically cheat science and cheat mother and play god and play god when when her point

00:25:46.500 is no you cannot you can't have it all if you want to have children and be a mother you have to

00:25:50.900 prioritize that and you should do it when you still have time and for women who don't want to that's

00:25:56.580 cool too like yeah i think that's a choice that women should make for themselves because if you 1.00

00:26:01.060 force women to all be mothers you're gonna have a lot of bad mothers a lot of resentful women out 1.00

00:26:05.860 there so you don't want to do that no the there's beauty and choice yes in that in that regard and a

00:26:10.820 woman who really truly wants to be a mom is going to be the best mom yeah absolutely and it's 0.73

00:26:15.400 yeah so she basically says you can't wait until the most convenient time for you and guarantee you

00:26:19.560 will still be able to produce a child and it's funny because societies tells us the exact opposite

00:26:25.000 they're saying oh no you can wait and then it's all going to come together with a nice bow and life

00:26:30.760 is going to be exactly as you've always dreamed of and it's like well no because first of all like

00:26:37.160 you can have babies much later in life but having a baby in your 40s comes with many complications

00:26:43.160 actually and it may not even happen because we don't have infinite eggs no we don't even have

00:26:48.360 infinite eggs we've talked about this before as well there's no guarantee that your eggs are going

00:26:52.200 to be viable and that it's expensive and that your kid's going to be healthy when they're when they're

00:26:56.480 grown up um that i wrote so many on the eggs thing here's a quote from her article um freezing your

00:27:03.420 eggs will cost you tens of thousands of dollars and offers no guarantee that once you're in your 40s and

00:27:07.640 feeling ready to have kids you will actually be able to get pregnant at that point the odds are

00:27:11.400 working against you biologically available eggs are not the chance of getting pregnant past 40 are 0.87

00:27:15.620 low miscarriage becomes a higher risk and complications for you and the fetus become more

00:27:19.280 likely so there you go but we're constantly told like don't worry about that like yeah you literally

00:27:26.980 can play god we saw in the picture on the front of her article here is chloe kardashian who's 1.00

00:27:32.280 approaching 40 i would think yeah um who just bought a baby yeah and she like she megan talks 0.94

00:27:41.680 about the whole process like we've talked about this on the show before too and and one of the

00:27:45.560 things that's interesting about surrogacy specifically is that a lot of times hollywood

00:27:50.180 people use it out of convenience and it's like obviously there are instances where some women 0.99

00:27:55.900 cannot have kids whatever they want to have a surrogate i we've talked about the ethics of this

00:28:00.140 before we're not here to condemn you i just think when you're doing it because you have the money

00:28:04.020 yeah and you don't want to ruin your body your body you don't have the time to have make love with your

00:28:09.200 husband or you're not in a stable enough relationship an article that was like riyanka

00:28:12.960 chopra yeah we can't find the time to have sex but you can have the time to have your baby and it's 0.57

00:28:18.440 interesting raise your child because so this baby that was born for chloe via surrogacy and during the

00:28:24.700 first episode of the kardashians second season of the show the family seems concerned about chloe and

00:28:30.660 she seemed detached from the process as though they're unaware that she's literally detached from

00:28:35.880 the process and that's one of the issues with surrogacy and and megan murphy has a really beautiful

00:28:40.200 quote about this too if you don't mind me reading it um the situation would be a dark one for any woman 1.00

00:28:45.700 because she was also cheated on by tristan thompson um but the thing is she wasn't pregnant and she 0.98

00:28:50.820 wasn't having a baby another woman went through a pregnancy and had a baby that woman is erased in

00:28:55.340 order for chloe and her family to maintain their delusion that somehow implanting an egg inside

00:28:59.420 another human then paying that woman for the right to take the baby she gestated and birth from her 1.00

00:29:04.160 equates to chloe having a baby yeah because that's how chloe was talking about it she said i'm having a 0.94

00:29:09.740 baby it's like no you're not you're buying a baby and it's so sterile and yeah your baby is a

00:29:14.640 transaction and like in the picture there's no skin contact between her baby and her like that's the most

00:29:20.400 as soon as your baby's born they they put it on you exactly well and it's interesting because i

00:29:25.960 actually watched this scene and it this this woman gives birth to the baby that she's carried for nine

00:29:31.600 months and then right away out of the mom's womb hand it to chloe and it's i understand that it's

00:29:36.180 chloe's genetics and i'm sure she loves her baby but chloe's a perfect stranger to this child and i just

00:29:41.400 think it's so cruel it's sterile it's like it just kind of icks me out i don't know it's super

00:29:46.760 creepy there's no intimacy and again like not to talk about myself but like i i'm already bonding

00:29:52.520 with my kid like i feel like i haven't met her yet but she's in my belly and i can feel her kicking and

00:29:57.180 i talk to her and i can like if i knows your voice yeah exactly she knows the vibration of my voice and

00:30:02.180 like if i touch my belly in a certain spot sometimes she kicks there and it's like that's so crazy and

00:30:06.560 she's like leave me alone yeah she's like get out of my room chloe has none of that yeah it's and 0.99

00:30:12.100 she's not even touching the skin to skin she's on her phone yeah in the photo she has her newborn

00:30:17.320 baby in her hands and she's on her phone and the baby's just like am i a prop yeah it's sad it's

00:30:23.400 just yeah it's just cruel and a little as megan murphy says dystopian in a way i mean it's just

00:30:28.340 that's literally what handmaid's tale is about surrogates like if they're just a bunch of surrogates

00:30:32.600 if you haven't seen the show so it's like it's just so sterile i don't know yeah it's it's weird

00:30:38.100 it's cute anyway anyways women can't have it all so if you want to have a baby if you're thinking 1.00

00:30:42.680 about having a baby and you're in a stable relationship or marriage you should just have

00:30:46.420 your baby i said the same thing about dogs yeah people are like oh i wish i'd have a dog i was

00:30:50.660 like you should get a dog just get the dog you want a dog you should get a dog because i've never

00:30:53.520 once regretted having my dog she is either an angel pepe is the light of my life exactly anyway

00:30:57.760 okay moving on great so this is something we've talked about multiple times on the show and it's

00:31:02.340 you know the changing concept of woman will cause unintended harms i mean what is a woman 1.00

00:31:07.260 yeah this article is really interesting because the author comes at it from a philosophical point

00:31:11.920 of view because like she talks about like categories of things it's like a house cannot be a car

00:31:16.440 so she's not even she's really really trying not to be transphobic she's really not trying to be

00:31:24.480 hateful or whatever she's literally just talking about it from a philosophical categorical point of

00:31:28.220 view and she makes such good points yes one of the points that she makes is um in a superficially

00:31:33.900 comparable case such as coming out as gay there is still an underlying factor sexual orientation

00:31:38.820 that secures your membership it's not just a matter of saying you are gay i think that's really

00:31:43.500 interesting because i never thought about it like that it's like you can't like you have to actually

00:31:47.980 go through the thing you have to be gay you have to be gay to be gay in a relationship well i

00:31:51.560 identify as gay but i'm having heterosexual yeah and the same the same goes she talks about um

00:31:56.820 a person might self-declare that she is transracial but there's no such thing as being

00:32:01.540 transracial there's only thinking falsely that you are so it's interesting that we don't accept

00:32:06.520 that but we accept that a man is a woman because he says so it just doesn't make sense to me i know

00:32:11.900 and i we i said this on the live stream earlier and i'll say it again it's a little misogynistic

00:32:17.920 for a man because often these things are but like there are trans men of course but so many of the

00:32:25.320 ways that they're defined they're changing definitions and they're they're cheating the system

00:32:28.860 they're cheating the system and they're invading on female spaces etc it's happening from when 1.00

00:32:32.320 males transition to females yeah and it's so misogynistic it's literally just like back in

00:32:37.380 the day when women would beat wives and they would own them and you can't do this and that it's like 0.95

00:32:42.280 it's the same thing we're literally just being erased and stepped on but because we don't want to

00:32:47.300 we don't hurt the feelings of the trans person now yeah it's fine like in 50 years we're gonna look

00:32:53.300 back on this and be like what were we doing yeah yeah and and she also talks about how the category

00:32:59.540 female is important for understanding the particular challenges its members face such as um as such 0.99

00:33:06.360 these include a heightened vulnerability to rape sexual assault voyeurism and exhibitionism to sexual

00:33:12.040 harassment domestic violence certain cancers anorexia self-harm and so on um so men don't have to deal

00:33:20.100 with that yeah and she and that last part of that quote is if self-declared trans women are included 1.00

00:33:24.360 in statistics understandings will be hampered and it's true because if if you're a woman but you're

00:33:29.640 not actually a female like biologically and you're in this group now and they're like oh do you have 0.79

00:33:35.540 all these feelings and it's like no i don't have that i don't have sub ovarian cancer because you

00:33:39.300 don't have any ovaries now the statistics like we're not talking about feelings here well and

00:33:43.660 they're talking about statistics and and math like exactly numbers will be skewed and there's no

00:33:48.960 criteria like what's the criteria for a woman because apparently now it's just self-declaration 0.94

00:33:53.720 i mean not all trans people seek surgery or take hormones not all of them even consistently dress

00:33:58.720 or self-adorn as stereotypical feminine as in a stereotypical feminine or masculine way so it's

00:34:04.120 like what is the criteria what does it mean to be a woman you know okay we have a lot more to talk

00:34:08.580 about but we're gonna just there's so many other articles that we read for this uh in preparation for

00:34:15.020 this there's a great one from time uh written by christina hoff summers from 2014 there's no way

00:34:19.740 they would let her write that today six feminist myths that will not die um this other one is from 1.00

00:34:24.540 evie this former cosmo writer dishes on how the magazine lied to sell women feminism that's a really 0.99

00:34:28.660 interesting one as well um and then so many lies essentially that have been sold to women 0.99

00:34:34.580 in the name of female empowerment and i just think it's important for us to think about why

00:34:41.860 why women are specifically targeted by these sorts of propaganda i guess because women are 0.96

00:34:49.100 constantly like this is no different than before the women's rights movement it's literally men

00:34:55.780 trampling on women once again it's just now they're wearing wigs exactly and feminism is dead 1.00

00:35:01.700 true feminism in its in its original form is gone and it's really unfortunate and i don't really know

00:35:09.560 what the solution is but we're living in a world that's just so chaotic yeah we need actual biological

00:35:15.900 women to be strong and stand up for their rights and that's actual old school feminism so we need 1.00

00:35:21.000 to bring back those broads yeah those old those broads and yeah yeah don't be afraid of standing up

00:35:25.960 for yourself as a woman because you deserve to take up space as a woman like yeah god created some of 1.00

00:35:30.840 us more space there you go like god created male and female and both genders should be celebrated 0.61

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Rebel News Podcast - October 11, 2022

Miss Understood No. 35 — Feminists Lied, Femininity Died

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