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00:00:51.060 Hello and welcome to Misunderstood, a show for all you culturally and politically misunderstood ladies and gents, we are your hosts, I'm Kath, and I'm Nat, and today we're going to be doing a deep dive into Kim Kardashian and Kanye West's relationship, formerly Kimye, we're going to be talking about surrogacy and some of the ethics behind it, and then of course we're going to talk about our favorite trans swimmer

00:01:21.040 Leah Thomas, but first we're going to start things off with our patented culture shock moment of the week, take it away Kat, so this is happy never wearing a mask day again, right, the culture shock today is, we get to look at your beautiful faces in public in Ontario, this is a huge milestone for us, I have been not wearing a mask for a long time, but I'm really excited for others to join in in the fun,

00:01:48.260 yeah, I'm excited about it, except I've seen a lot of masks, I was just going to say, I went for a run at like 7am this morning, wow, what a humble brag, and I'm super fit, no, but actually so many people were outside, not just wearing a single mask, a double one, stop it, a double mask, and I think we should pray for these people, because the fact that they are still scared two years in is just, it's sad, it actually makes me sad, it makes me sad,

00:02:14.420 I suggest people be the maskless face they want to see in the world, I think that's beautiful, thank you, it's almost as if you were listening to some Kanye West earlier,

00:02:23.860 he also writes beautiful music, but he has had a sad, beautiful, tragic relationship with ex-wife Kim Kardashian, it is, and even though they have, they butt heads,

00:02:34.140 I think they're more connected than they give themselves, than they admit, rather, so we're going to go through a timeline of their relationship and do a deep dive into Kim and Kanye,

00:02:45.780 who, as we've mentioned on the show before, are the former first family of the United States of America, with respect, with respect, with respect, yes, so where should we begin?

00:02:54.000 Well, let's start at the very top, so we have devised a little timeline here, the two met in the year 2000, when Kim Kardashian was an assistant to singer Brandi,

00:03:06.420 Interesting, I did not know that, I didn't know that either, Kanye apparently was super taken by her, I mean, have you seen 2020, sorry, 2002 Kim, when she had her original body parts and face,

00:03:17.120 In her normal, yeah, when she looked like a human, yeah, she was beautiful, that's interesting too, because I started watching Keeping Up with the Kardashians at the onset of the pandemic,

00:03:26.580 and when you see them around this time, they have all this money, but they don't know, they don't have taste, they have no taste, so when you see, like, you really slowly see the transition when Kim and Kanye meet,

00:03:37.900 just how cool she becomes, and how, like, trendy and fashionable, it's hilarious, so thank you, that's a good point,

00:03:43.800 Thank you, Kanye, yeah, she does make a mention about, um, yes, when they started dating was, well, we'll get to that, we'll get to that, but she says something about how he always really respected his fashion choice and taste and whatever,

00:03:53.540 so she was probably dating up in the style department, yeah, I mean, and good call, girl, because it worked out for you, you look amazing,

00:03:59.880 so they dated other people, um, but remained friends, Kim Kardashian actually got married to that guy, basketball player, yeah, for, like, 72 days or something, yeah, Chris Humphreys, yes, apparently, though,

00:04:10.240 she said part of why that marriage didn't work out was because she was already texting Kanye, oh, my gosh, he was sliding into her DMs, like,

00:04:17.280 well, he had wanted her the whole, he had wanted her, I think, since they met, um, but they dated,

00:04:23.200 but he was respectful, yes, and Kanye actually mentioned it in a couple lyrics of a song, like, when she was married to Chris, is that his name,

00:04:29.320 yep, he wrote a lyric that was, like, go on, girl, do your thing, like, I'll be waiting, something or other, so,

00:04:34.700 weird to note that Chris is her mom's name, oh, yeah, I'm sorry, you just, like, here, you say that, I was, like,

00:04:41.260 that's, like, they're spelt the same, too, that's kind of, like, Michaela Peterson, she's engaged now to someone named Jordan,

00:04:46.120 Michaela Peterson, no, just, narcissist, no, her, her fiance's name is Jordan, that's creepy, super creepy, I don't know, it's a little creepy, anyway, sorry,

00:04:54.120 whatever, we'll move on from that, um, so, they, uh, started dating in 2012, and had their first child north in 2013, right,

00:05:02.620 that was an unexpected pregnancy, um, Kanye West has gone on the record as talking about how they

00:05:08.660 discussed abortion, and it was actually Kim who pushed to have the baby, and he says now, of course,

00:05:14.000 he's, like, so great, yes, he's super pro-life, and he's, like, so grateful, she was mortified at this,

00:05:18.360 uh, revelation, I'm sure it's kind of hard for the kid to hear that, like, for North to be, like, oh,

00:05:23.000 and also, it's just, I mean, it's kind of private, it's nobody's business, yeah, regardless of what you

00:05:27.540 think about abortion, like, it's, it's someone's private decision, and he should not be speaking

00:05:32.820 out about that on her behalf, I just, it's, it sounds like he didn't consult her, it was when he

00:05:37.140 was, had a brief presidential run, which we forgot about until I started doing the research for this

00:05:42.440 episode, I remember I saw a tweet about that, and he, he tweeted, like, he got, like, a, he got a decent

00:05:47.740 amount of votes, but what, like, he didn't get a vote from his own wife, and that, that stung, that hurts,

00:05:52.980 right, so, she voted for Trump, just kidding, I don't know, um, so they got married in 2014,

00:05:58.240 and it's kind of funny, because I was reading about this, and they, they landed a cover in Vogue,

00:06:02.720 and I guess she had been, she'd never been on Vogue before, so he was the one that got her on the

00:06:08.620 cover, basically, oh my god, and now she, like, is Vogue, she is Vogue, so thanks, Kanye, like,

00:06:13.420 I mean, he's really helped her build her empire, yeah, yeah, I didn't realize that, um, they had their

00:06:18.680 second child in 2015, yeah, that one was a hard pregnancy for Kim, um, and I remember, I remember

00:06:24.860 seeing pictures, pictures of her, she was real, she was in rough shape, but she went through, like,

00:06:29.780 I'm pretty impressed that she, A, decided to keep her first kid, which is, you know, I would

00:06:34.320 encourage, yeah, uh, and then, even though her pregnancy was hard, she went and had another one,

00:06:39.380 yeah, um, okay, so then, things changed a little bit, in 2017, they had their third child, but that was

00:06:45.340 by a surrogate, yes, so we're gonna talk about surrogacy later in this episode, yeah, there's a

00:06:50.880 lot, and not really about her, so not about her specifically, yes, but it's important to note, um, and

00:06:56.400 then in 2019, they had their fourth and final child, and it was also by surrogate, oh, also important to

00:07:02.000 note, 2018 was when he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and that's kind of when we started to see a

00:07:07.520 shift, I think, in their, their marriage, and you guys might think this is boring, but it's all relevant, we're gonna

00:07:12.260 have a juicy discussion about all of this, it's just, we're just trying to set the stage, gotta lay the land,

00:07:18.440 exactly, yeah, so, that's a good point to note, because in 2019, Kanye becomes born-again Christian, which

00:07:25.920 some people, I know that's up for debate by certain Christians, are like, no, he's not, and then some people

00:07:30.440 are like, yeah, he's always been, like, his first, since the beginning of his, Jesus walks, yeah, like, his music has

00:07:35.720 always had, like, a gospel rhythm to it, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's Christian, so there's,

00:07:40.620 you know, how, how do you look into someone's heart, and decide whether or not they love God,

00:07:44.940 like, that's not my decision, it's not, I agree with you, and, and all, so much of their relationship,

00:07:50.240 all that we know about is what we read on TMZ, like, there's so much behind the scenes, um, behind

00:07:54.320 closed doors, but I think your actions do speak louder than words, and I think some of his actions

00:07:59.040 have kind of made it seem like, oh, maybe he's not fully invested in his faith, but at the same time, too,

00:08:04.700 like, Israel, the definition of Israel means to struggle with God, which means that's a lifelong

00:08:09.520 journey, so we can't really speak to his salvation, all we can do is pray about him. Yeah, you could

00:08:13.660 say the same thing about me, you could be like, oh, like, look at these decisions she's made in her

00:08:16.620 life, that means she's not really Christian, it's like, that's fair for you to make that judgment,

00:08:20.000 but also, like, not completely accurate. It's a journey, it's a lifelong journey, it's, yeah, you, you,

00:08:25.120 you know, it's, we can't judge people with where they're at. So, 2019, they're still happily married,

00:08:29.920 um, Kim talks on The View about how, uh, Kanye was hosting street church and had all these, like,

00:08:36.620 pastors coming through, and I was like, we know something about street church pastors,

00:08:40.440 like Arthur Pawlowski. Oh, yeah. Um, then, oh, they renewed their vows in 2019, so they're still

00:08:47.360 happily married, I would assume. Yeah. Same, like, that, either that's something that you do when

00:08:51.220 you're struggling and you try to renew your faith in each other, maybe, or you're just, like, really happy

00:08:55.120 and you want to renew your vows, although it's kind of, they've only been married for five years

00:08:59.580 at that point, so it's like, that's a, that's a Hollywood marriage timeline. Yeah, and, and I

00:09:03.580 guess that's this, when he became a Christian, I don't think she kind of made that decision for

00:09:09.040 herself, so I think that's when they started to see tension in their marriage, because he had a

00:09:12.880 different view on how they should be parenting their kids, like, something about taking TVs out

00:09:16.800 of their rooms, which, by the way, they're all so young, they don't need TVs in their room. How big are

00:09:20.140 those TVs? Yeah, can I have it? You have to get it uninstalled from the wall,

00:09:23.340 daddy, like, it's built into the movie theater. Yeah. And then something about North, who I guess

00:09:29.340 was very young at the time, putting on makeup, which, I mean, we put on, I assume we put on

00:09:33.520 makeup when we were kids, but I guess he just wanted to preserve. Maybe not wearing out. Exactly,

00:09:37.800 like, I think he just wanted to preserve the fact that she is a child, which is a normal thing for

00:09:41.780 a dad to do. It's a normal response, and I think, again, we don't know what's going on behind closed

00:09:45.020 doors, but I don't, I kind of think she should be on the same page with him as a parenting choice

00:09:49.320 about that. Yeah, it's unfortunate that the whole world knows about these, like, intermarital

00:09:52.920 squabbles. Yes. It's kind of weird. Most of us would keep that private. Yeah. So, 2020,

00:09:59.200 Kim admits that Kanye's faith was becoming a problem for their relationship. This is when

00:10:04.340 things were really taken down were inspired. Yeah, and I read a quote, if I can just read it.

00:10:10.860 Do share, do share.

00:10:11.480 This divorce is happening because Kim has grown a lot, a source told Page Six in January.

00:10:16.660 She's serious about taking the bar exam and becoming a lawyer. She's serious about her prison

00:10:21.120 reform campaign. Meanwhile, Kanye is talking about running for president and saying other

00:10:25.480 crazy S-H-I-T, and she's just had enough of it. But it's like, okay, but that kind of seems

00:10:30.760 selfish to me. Yeah. Like, I know he's a, he's a bit, he's an artist. He's all over the

00:10:35.060 place. He's a visionary. He is. He's a genius. Um, but like, I just seems kind of like me,

00:10:40.400 me, me, me, me, you know? Yeah. And it doesn't seem, like, you did exchange vows with this person,

00:10:44.340 and she goes on later to say that, like, you cannot, there's no way they can remedy the marriage,

00:10:48.400 and I just don't believe that's true. I think you just didn't try because, you know?

00:10:53.620 Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's, uh, a good point because it was only, they got married in 2014,

00:10:58.940 and then six years later, they're like, well, there's nothing we can do. That's what I mean.

00:11:02.320 And you have four beautiful children together. Yeah. Like, they're literally the first family

00:11:06.700 of the United States, and you can't work through it because you want to be a lawyer now? Like,

00:11:11.600 yeah, for every kid you have, you should add a couple years extra to the time you try to

00:11:15.320 save your marriage. Yeah. I think so, too. Um, yeah, I just thought that was interesting,

00:11:19.880 and then she talks a lot about how, like, her family would say certain things and stuff,

00:11:24.020 and it's, like, when you're married, you leave your mother and father and become one with your

00:11:27.480 wife, like, biblically, you know? So, it's, like, why are you listening to Chris? Yeah. Like,

00:11:31.500 she's kind of a devil. Like, obviously, that's not a fact. It is a fact. No. But she's, like,

00:11:38.520 not, I mean, I would, I would be mad at my mom if she did to me what she did to Kim.

00:11:43.400 Obviously, she put her on the world stage. Oh, the sex tape. The sex tape. Releasing of the

00:11:46.700 sex tape. Like, that's kind of dirty. It's not a loving thing to do. Even if I, even if Kim wanted

00:11:50.940 her to do it, I would hope my mom would be, like, no, we're going to take it to Mount Doom and throw

00:11:54.460 it in the fire. Yeah, I think that's the natural response for your child. Yes. Yeah. Um, or just

00:12:00.400 don't make one. But, like, if you do. Well, let's, come on. We're trying to be realistic now.

00:12:06.620 That's true. Um, so, in 2020, Kanye announced his presidential campaign. We kind of touched on that

00:12:12.060 already. And then that's when they decided to separate. Yes. And that was the end. 2020,

00:12:16.280 that was the end. Um, she filed for divorce in 2021. And I think. Immediately. Yeah. Starts

00:12:22.300 dating Pete Davidson. Which, I don't know. Was she blinded by, like, past trauma or something?

00:12:28.580 Or his handsomeness? She was blinded by his talent. He's so funny. So good looking. He's cute. Yeah.

00:12:37.400 Yeah. You know, I noticed something, um, when I was doing my research here. So Kim and Pete Davidson

00:12:43.800 shared a kiss on that Saturday Night Live episode. Well, he was in, Kanye was in the audience. Oh,

00:12:48.340 yeah. Okay. So that's a whole thing. Yeah. But she was dressed up as Jasmine from Aladdin. When

00:12:53.900 Kanye and Kim met, they, it wasn't their first meeting, but it was really, really early on. And

00:12:58.300 Kanye West was doing some, like, sketch comedy. Okay. And Kim Kardashian was playing Princess Leia. Okay. And I'm,

00:13:03.520 like, so she, like, she gets in a costume and then just falls in love with whoever she's,

00:13:08.240 like, doing the scene with. I don't know. If you're trying to date Kim Kardashian, give her

00:13:11.820 a cartoon, give her, like, a cartoonish costume. Disney vibes. Disney vibes. And then kiss her.

00:13:18.240 Yeah. And then she'll be yours for at least six years. Well, that's good. We should write a book

00:13:21.900 about that. Yeah. Um, just a funny little comparison. Who would have thought? But. And now in 2022,

00:13:27.160 they're officially divorced. Yeah. And now she's dating P and they're flaunting their relationship

00:13:31.900 online. And by the way, folks, he's 28 years old. She's 41. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. She

00:13:39.480 looks 16. So I guess it makes sense. It's so common for men to date women 20 years younger

00:13:44.460 than them, especially in Hollywood. Like, hello, Leo, I'm talking to you. Which is gross, by the

00:13:48.000 way, Leo. Yeah. Like even people who are, like, happily married to their wives, there's, the wives

00:13:52.500 are, like, 10, 15 years younger on average. Again, I'm making up that stat, but it's, like, you see it

00:13:57.120 all the time. I would argue, though, that it's mostly because women, like, men take longer

00:14:01.040 to mature. So when a woman dates older, it's because she wants to be with a real man, not

00:14:04.480 some guy living in his mom's basement. That's a good point. Whereas, like, women we develop

00:14:08.180 earlier. Like, we're more matured. Yeah, I can see that. We tend to be. There is a trend

00:14:11.620 for a reason. Yeah. It's not that it's sexism. Like. Necessarily. Necessarily, yeah. But

00:14:15.160 Leo. It's preference. Leo. Yeah. But now she's dating a man that looks like he lives in his

00:14:19.380 mother's basement. He does. He really, he looks bad. Yeah. And not only is, does he look

00:14:24.540 bad, he now also has, like, a physical branding of Kim's name. Yes. So that was last week,

00:14:29.520 I think that was revealed, that he had Kim's name branded on his chest. Like, branded.

00:14:34.060 Like, yeah. Like a cattle. Like. So sick. That's, like, seems kind of permanent to me. I don't

00:14:39.580 know. Like. Important to note, though, he also has a tattoo of Hillary Clinton's face on his

00:14:45.340 body. So, you know, his body's not prime real estate. True. So he doesn't honor his body.

00:14:50.760 No. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. That's it. But it is interesting that she's moving on

00:14:55.880 so quickly and so publicly. Mm-hmm. Like, I mean, she does have children and, like, she

00:15:01.620 is in the public eye. So every move she makes. Yeah. Is going to be known by the public.

00:15:06.900 But they also go out on those, like, paparazzi. Yes. Dates. And they're, like, holding each

00:15:11.220 other's hand. Like, they could avoid that. They could just stay on their, like, million-dollar

00:15:14.360 compound. Yeah. Like, her house is, like, probably, like, a bajillion square feet. Like, have you

00:15:17.940 ever seen a picture of her, like, without any makeup or on the toilet or something? Like, no.

00:15:23.660 No. She has privacy in her life. Yeah. So she could obviously be dating Pete in the

00:15:28.460 private space. Now, I know that Kanye West has asked that she not introduce the kids

00:15:34.380 to Pete Davidson. Yes. How do you know if that's true? Like, I guess you asked your

00:15:38.960 kid. Yeah, I'm sure. That can't last forever, though. No, it can't last forever. And, I

00:15:43.480 mean, there will, he should, he should have a say in this conversation. Like, there's a lot

00:15:47.240 of outrage because of their text exchange of Pete Davidson showing that he was in bed and

00:15:52.120 he claimed to be in bed with Kim. Anyway, super inappropriate. Unsubstantiated. Yeah.

00:15:56.700 But, you know, people were like, oh, well, Kanye has no right to be mad about this. Well,

00:16:00.820 yes, he does because it's the mother of his children. They have a history. Like, it'd be

00:16:05.500 weird if he wasn't mad. It'd be super weird. And by the way, he is not innocent either,

00:16:09.960 though. He has been, you know, walking around town with Julia and. Yeah, no, he's had three

00:16:14.240 girlfriends in the time that she's had one. Exactly. So he can't really. Yeah, no. He's

00:16:19.200 being a little hypocritical. Like, was she not, maybe he didn't introduce the kids to

00:16:22.340 any of those girls? I doubt it. Yeah, like, maybe, maybe. We don't know. But the point

00:16:26.140 is, is he's not, like, saying, like, I should be the leading by example here and not being

00:16:31.460 out seen in the public eye with another woman. Like, he's not doing that either. So while

00:16:35.240 she is totally flaunting Pete, he flaunted Julia Fox and there was two other, and then his

00:16:39.980 most recent, which I'm sure is. Who looks like Kim. Who looks exactly like Kim? What's her

00:16:43.340 name? I don't know. Kim Smartashian? Maybe she's a little smarter. Or not. I mean, Kim is a lawyer.

00:16:50.020 Okay, so one of the other kind of articles that we had talks about how Kim likes to take

00:16:56.020 the high road. Do we believe that? Right. So that was, she said that on a daytime talk

00:17:02.640 show. Yeah. So she was talking about how, like, Kanye's making all these Instagram posts

00:17:06.440 and she's like, I'm taking the high road. But it's like, you're saying that on a daytime

00:17:09.860 talk show. Yeah. Like, I'm such a good ex-wife. Yeah. Like, I never, I never, like, talk

00:17:17.260 S-H-I-T about my ex on social media. It's like, well, you're kind of doing it right

00:17:22.160 now on TV. Yeah. Like, you're making it look like you're taking the high road. Yeah. I

00:17:25.400 guess it's degrees. It's like slight differences and, like, maybe his is slightly worse. Yeah.

00:17:30.700 I don't know. No, maybe. I mean, and by the way, I do think that we shouldn't be praising

00:17:36.320 him for being outspoken about some of the stuff he's been outspoken about. I think he should

00:17:39.760 really try to be more private about their divorce. I do think she has been. Yeah.

00:17:43.560 I think she needs to tell Pete to shut the heck up. Yeah. And stay out of things. Pete,

00:17:47.540 stay out of things. Yeah. These people have children together. Like, you can see her and

00:17:51.200 do whatever you want, but, like, stay out of it. Yeah, definitely. Like, you don't need

00:17:54.160 to defend your girlfriend. Yeah. Like, that's, again, like, not to use the sexist card, but

00:18:00.440 I find it to be a little sexist that he thinks he needs to defend Kim to Kanye. Like, excuse

00:18:05.120 me, they were married. Yeah. They know how to talk to each other. And they've been friends

00:18:07.620 for years. They've been friends for years. She even said after they were, after their divorce

00:18:11.000 had, I think, been finalized, Kim said that he's an amazing, or the best dad. Yes. So

00:18:16.380 they have a, they had a pretty good relationship up until recently. Like, she does not need

00:18:20.180 you to, unless she asked you. Yeah. Which maybe she did. I doubt it. I do too. She seems like

00:18:25.260 she wants to speak for herself on these matters. Yeah. I just want to know why she's dating

00:18:29.520 him, though. He seems like such a slime ball. Because she, honestly, because, my guess, is

00:18:34.080 because Kanye found his faith and then she is quoted as saying he's become really, really

00:18:38.640 strict and religious. Right. So it probably went from, like, having... Stop removing

00:18:41.440 TVs from his kids. Well, there could be Whitplate. Yeah. I guess if there was crazier stuff, maybe

00:18:46.360 we would have heard about it. Yeah. But I can imagine, you know, someone who's just finding

00:18:49.320 their faith takes it a little too far and is like, you can't do anything. Everything is

00:18:52.780 satanic. So it's like, she's probably just trying to have some freaking fun. Yeah. No, I understand

00:18:57.860 that. And I mean, going back to, like, the whole God thing for a second, like, it was Kanye's

00:19:05.140 job to be the spiritual example in their household. And he clearly wasn't because she didn't want

00:19:10.900 any part of it at all. And I think that's probably why they ended up parting ways. They weren't

00:19:15.800 equally yoked. But honestly, like, he just didn't seem to be leading the household the

00:19:20.820 way he's called to as a man of God. And so I do think he fell short there. And I think

00:19:25.160 that does deserve criticism in a way. And like, so I do kind of sympathize with her a little

00:19:30.740 bit in that regard. Because she didn't sign up for this. Exactly. Like, when they got married,

00:19:34.080 he wasn't super religious. So to just like, kind of, and again, we, I don't know his diagnosis,

00:19:39.240 but he has technically been labeled as, or diagnosed as bipolar publicly. So do I know

00:19:45.600 what's going on in his brain? No. But if you're dealing with someone who's bipolar, he might be

00:19:49.040 like super chill one day. And it's like, oh, do you want to do this? Cool. And then the next day

00:19:52.820 be like, that's, you know, forbidden in the Bible. And she's like, whoa, where did that come from?

00:19:56.220 Like, that's, I'm just trying to take a stab in the dark here. No, for sure. And, but, you know,

00:20:00.360 if the diagnosis was too much for her, like, I'm sorry, but that's too bad. So sad, Kim,

00:20:04.320 because it's for richer, for poorer, for better, for worse, you know, sickness and in health. So,

00:20:08.880 I mean, I don't know. There's so much that we could like discuss about all of that. I just,

00:20:13.660 I just, the Pete thing. He's just sucks. Yeah, he sucks. I think he's the real villain in the

00:20:19.920 situation. I agree. Totally. Yeah. I think he thinks that, I mean, he's kind of like one of those

00:20:24.340 young girls who falls in love with a guy and she's like, this is it. This is totally. And it's

00:20:28.380 like, you're 16. Calm down. Like he says that he has had other girls. He had Ariana Grande tattooed

00:20:33.860 on his body as well. Bunny ears. It was bunny ears to represent her. So it's like not the first

00:20:38.620 time he's tattooed. So it's not that flattering Kim that he branded your name. Yeah, exactly. Like

00:20:43.160 you're, you're more of a memento. Maybe me. I think he genuinely, like I said, is like a little girl.

00:20:48.000 Yes. Literal notches on his skin. Yeah. So gross. And maybe he actually is like,

00:20:54.340 so delusional that he's like, yeah, this is the one, like this 20 year difference. Like

00:20:58.360 probably it's not, I'm not going to give it more than six months to a year.

00:21:03.140 Well, they've technically been together a year. So six more months. Oh, wow. Yeah. Well,

00:21:06.660 isn't my face red. I think that should be the culture shock. Yeah. That is shocking. Every episode.

00:21:13.460 Yeah. No, I, I, I think there, it will be a short lived relationship. I think you're completely

00:21:17.500 right. And then when that happens, you know, I don't think she's going to necessarily go running

00:21:21.660 back to Kanye, but maybe it's going to be like, maybe you shouldn't have let him like

00:21:24.520 make such a scene in front of the world about our private business. Or maybe she's going to be

00:21:30.780 like, great. I sold more lip glosses than ever that, that month. I will be buying one. You know,

00:21:36.520 that would be great if they got back together. Maybe we should ship that. I don't know. I would

00:21:40.200 ship that because, you know, I, I was again, in my research, I've never done such a deep dive into

00:21:45.420 Kanye in my whole freaking life. It's a lot guys. This could take, we could spend the whole episode

00:21:49.480 talking about this. We might, we might. Yeah. Um, I actually gained a little bit of respect

00:21:52.780 for Kim Kardashian. I, which previously I had zero respect for her. Yeah. Maybe like 5%

00:21:57.520 because I was like, okay. Yeah. Like you have been like, yeah, that's one thing. She puts

00:22:00.860 in the effing work guys. She freaking does the work. Um, no, but like she's been the, the number

00:22:06.960 one female for years. Yeah. Like since I was in university, which is, you know, a little while

00:22:11.640 ago, like she has year. Yeah. Just graduated. Yeah. Um, she has been famous for so long. So she's

00:22:17.520 obviously doing something right in terms like, do I think that selling your soul to the devil

00:22:21.420 to become famous is the way to go? No, but she's doing something right in the, in the

00:22:25.380 scheme. She sustained herself. She's marketing herself. Well, so that's, you know, I guess

00:22:29.080 respectable as a skill she's done well. Business wise, really nice selfies. She takes, she

00:22:34.260 basically invented like pursing your lips and look at whatever she's, she's iconic, whether

00:22:40.340 you like her or not. Like even David Menzies was like, it was like Kim Kardashian. She broke

00:22:45.260 the internet. And I was like, David, that was 10 years ago. But yes, like she, she didn't

00:22:50.380 break the internet. But look, we all know Kim Kardashian, like to pretend that she's not

00:22:53.600 iconic is a little bit of cognitive dissonance, I think. Yeah. And what we've talked about

00:22:57.620 before is she has massive influence. So she's important. It's important to talk about people

00:23:01.040 who can literally tell you who to vote for and a crowd of people will vote for them.

00:23:04.760 Like we need to have a critical eye on these people. Um, but I think one more thing that

00:23:09.420 maybe we should address is just the fact that I think Kanye West is a very good dad.

00:23:12.960 Yes. It seems, yeah. Again, like I mentioned of his bipolar disorder, maybe he doesn't always

00:23:18.460 go about communicating things in the best way and like posting them on Instagram instead

00:23:21.860 of talking to his family or lawyer. Like he mentioned about North. He's like my, this

00:23:25.500 is my first divorce. How do I get North off of TikTok? Basically. Um, that's a conversation

00:23:31.160 you should have with your child, the mother of your child and your lawyer.

00:23:33.840 And that's assuming Kim is open to actually communicating with him because we don't know

00:23:36.960 either. Like we just don't know.

00:23:38.100 Well then talk to your lawyer about it and talk to your child about it. However, I totally agree

00:23:42.000 with you. I think that based on the posts that he makes in the comments that he makes,

00:23:45.240 whether he should make them publicly or not, it's very clear to me that he loves his kids.

00:23:49.600 Yeah. And he wants to protect them and that he loves Kim.

00:23:52.400 Yeah. He still loves her based on what I've read. Even up until 2021, he was saying like,

00:23:57.440 he wants a, he wants a reunion with her. Definitely.

00:24:00.400 People thought it would be uncool to be married. Then I got married and people are like, oh, that

00:24:04.840 looks cool. No one ever thought it'd be uncool to marry Kim Kardashian. Everybody thought

00:24:09.840 it would be cool to marry Kim Kardashian. Well, not Chris Humphries.

00:24:13.080 It's more than cool. It's more than cool as hell or something. It's heavenly. It's great. It's magnificent.

00:24:22.240 And God is using me as a human being. You know, I, you know, as humbly as I could put it,

00:24:30.160 he's using me to show off. It's such a blasphemous statement to think that as a man,

00:24:34.960 you can perfect anything. God is the only thing that's perfect. So the only thing that can be

00:24:40.320 perfect is God's plan. I get to work for God and he about to show out. Kanye West works for God.

00:24:47.200 Can you lend me a million dollars? Another example of how he is a standup dad,

00:24:55.280 I think is the fact that he did buy a house close by so that he could be a part of his kids' lives

00:24:59.440 because he knows that fathers are important. They're important figures. And him and North,

00:25:03.200 I think seem to have a really special bond as well. And so I think it's, I think it's sweet

00:25:07.360 that he's protective of his children. And he, despite his relationship with Kim, I think they both want

00:25:13.200 to make it work for their kids. And I think that's really nice, but I just think Pete needs

00:25:17.920 to get the hell out. Yeah. I think they would, I think they were doing a good job at that until

00:25:21.520 Pete Davidson got involved. And he stirred the pot with his weird text messages. Yeah. And the

00:25:25.760 branding, like, don't like they're going through a messiness right now and the children are involved

00:25:30.240 and Kanye's obviously mentally unstable. Like why get her name branded on you and show it like,

00:25:35.360 just wear a shirt for a couple of months until things have settled down a little bit. I agree.

00:25:39.280 Also, um, just looking at the timeline here, Kanye West has basically loved Kim Kardashian for like

00:25:45.360 20 years. Yeah. That's, that's pretty crazy. That's commitment. That's you don't fall out of

00:25:49.680 love with someone that you've loved for 20 years in six months or a year. And they're like, he should

00:25:54.160 move on. It's like, he's in love with his wife. Sorry. But then also, you know, Kanye stopped dating

00:25:59.280 people. Yeah. No, you're not. He's not a beacon of morality. No, but I do agree with you. I think like

00:26:04.160 he's, he's clearly committed. Um, he should get her name branded on him. Maybe that would,

00:26:09.040 that might do it. Maybe that might help. Maybe he should dye his hair blonde and tell bad jokes

00:26:13.600 and that'll work too. We'll see. Um, here's a quote from one of his IG posts recently. He says,

00:26:19.760 divorce feels like full blown COVID. Divorce feels like your doctor don't know S H I T. He wrote on

00:26:25.120 the post. That's kind of like funny COVID wise too. Yeah. It's like, it's like almost like the doctor

00:26:31.360 doesn't know what he just injected into you. Yeah. That is funny. Yeah. And it's not a little,

00:26:34.880 that's terrifying. So I feel bad for him because he's in a dark place. He is. And I think we should

00:26:39.600 pray for him. I wish that these people could handle this in a less public setting, but I guess

00:26:44.400 this is what Kim Kardashian does to sustain her career on top maybe. Um, but yeah, we should pray

00:26:49.360 for them. I think divorce is sad. Um, and it's even more sad in this situation because it is on the

00:26:54.720 public stage and, uh, yeah, Matt Walsh had a really funny tweet about this. It's true. Um,

00:27:01.680 yeah, let's pray for them. Everyone. Um, Pete Davidson, I know you're no longer going to space,

00:27:06.880 but what I wish you just get on that rack rocket and stay there. Um, but yeah, we'll pray for you

00:27:11.680 too. Cause you gotta, yeah, everyone needs a prayer. Yeah. Pray for your enemies. You're not,

00:27:15.920 I'm hoping that this cools down and that maybe in time they can reconcile their family. And that

00:27:21.600 would be really nice. I agree to this tale. Yeah. And most importantly, I think it's just

00:27:25.840 the children, as long as they are out of not harmed by this, I think that's the one number

00:27:30.640 one thing to hope for in situations like, yeah, obviously we know that I think the divorce rates

00:27:35.440 even gone up past 50% now. Let's just say it's 50%. Like that means like you have half the chance of

00:27:41.760 messing it up and having children of divorced parents. I myself am a child of divorce. I'm all right.

00:27:48.160 She's great. I just got over it. Yeah. She's not like steam. It's not idea. I know it took 16 years

00:27:54.320 to get over it. So it's not ideal, but you can still make it come. You can overcome these things,

00:27:59.200 but it's sad. It messed me up for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, and imagine the pressure of being

00:28:05.120 in the public eye as well. I just, so pray for the kids, the kids pray for Kim. Yeah. Yay. Kim yay.

00:28:12.720 And I will not call him yay. No, me either. No, I'm going to be, I'm going to be a name phobe about it.

00:28:17.200 I am. I am too. Okay. So another heavy topic. Yeah. This one. Okay. Do we want to preface it

00:28:25.360 by what, why we're talking about surrogacy? Yeah. I think that's a good idea. This is a topical issue.

00:28:30.960 I think before we do that though, like we just, this is a very controversial topic. We are not experts.

00:28:35.920 We do not claim to be experts. We're still learning about this. And we do want to talk about this

00:28:40.480 topic with compassion and love. Like our heart is in the right place here. Um, but it is,

00:28:45.600 my heart's a little bit to the left of where it should be. Right. It's she, we'll get that

00:28:50.160 checked out later. Close to the right. Yeah. It's close to the right. Um, but yeah, we will,

00:28:54.960 we just think that it's important to talk about this topic because it is surrogacy,

00:28:58.800 the surrogacy industry is a billion dollar corporate industry. Yeah. I did not know that. Me either.

00:29:05.520 I did not know that until I started doing research yesterday, yesterday. So again,

00:29:09.200 this is all very, very new to me. Um, there are great resources, uh, to that we'll link in the

00:29:14.960 description of the episode even, because I think it's important for you guys to do your own research.

00:29:18.240 But, um, this conversation kind of sprung because of Dave Rubin's announcement that him and his husband,

00:29:23.680 David are Dave and David. Yeah. Oh, are going to be having two sets of babies in the summer. So,

00:29:30.640 so that means two separate surrogates and it was, it was received mixed, mixed reviews on that,

00:29:38.400 on the internet. Well, it's very interesting because Dave Rubin came from the left and because

00:29:42.000 of how crazy the left has become, he's been pushed over to, he calls himself a centrist, but by all,

00:29:47.040 like most of his fans today are center right. Yeah. So now that he's made this announcement about his

00:29:53.360 two babies from two different surrogates, the right is wildly divided on the topic. Yes. And

00:29:59.760 that's kind of interesting because he might lose some fans. There might be. Yeah. Well, I think that

00:30:04.080 where the divide is though, it's, it's like the, the Christian conservatives and then the secular

00:30:08.640 conservatives. And I think why we can't really, I mean, I'm a Christian conservative and I think we

00:30:14.240 can't really hold Dave Rubin to the same level of expectation as we would for other Christian

00:30:19.600 conservatives. Cause he's just a conservative, like he, as we hold to ourselves, right?

00:30:23.200 Exactly. Forget that. Like, yeah, definitely. But I mean, iron sharpens iron. We are called to

00:30:27.280 speak the truth in love. And, um, but I just think like we, we can't really be mad at him

00:30:32.640 because he's not a Christian. Yeah. Um, so whether you agree with him or not, that's a really good

00:30:37.760 point, you know? So how do you feel about it? Yeah. So I don't think that conservatives,

00:30:48.240 Christians especially should be applauding this because I think that a child has a right to

00:30:52.400 a mother and a father. Um, it's, it's, I mean, we talk so much in society about the importance

00:30:58.800 of like fathers in the household and how fatherlessness has been such a detriment to society.

00:31:03.360 But what about two fathers though? So they'll be double as, but what about motherlessness?

00:31:07.120 Yeah. JK, JK. Like, you know, I know it's, it's true. And by the way, this is, this is nothing to

00:31:11.440 do with them as parents. I'm sure they're going to be wonderful parents. They seem like beautiful

00:31:14.800 people. I really liked Dave Rubin by the way. Yeah. Um, but I do think that that child has a right to a

00:31:20.000 mother. And now, I mean, we'll get more into like what happens when you have a surrogate,

00:31:25.840 um, and you know, how that might impact a baby and even the biological mother or the,

00:31:31.120 the body that it's in the surrogate, I guess. Um, but yeah, I just think there's a reason,

00:31:37.920 you know, God created man and woman to reproduce. Um, and there's a reason that children are supposed

00:31:42.640 to be born to moms and dads. It's the bedrock. The nuclear family is a bedrock for a successful

00:31:46.880 society. So I do, I do see the outrage there from Christians, um, Christian conservatives,

00:31:52.000 you know, but again, like he's not a Christian, so we can't hold him to that same standard.

00:31:56.400 Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. My only, um,

00:32:01.120 experience with surrogacy is from friends when Phoebe was have carrying her brother's triplets,

00:32:07.200 kind of gross. If you think, yeah, well, she, she had fun with that. She's like,

00:32:10.160 I'm carrying my brother's children. Yeah. Um, so I always thought that surrogacy,

00:32:14.960 and this is going to show my ignorance on this. I literally thought I knew that there were like

00:32:19.200 companies that could set you up, but I really thought like most surrogates were like, oh,

00:32:22.800 my sister here is going to carry my child to turn sometimes. Okay. So that it's not,

00:32:27.840 that's how I exactly. So that's how I was like, so what his, cause I did read that Dave Rubin has a

00:32:32.800 sister and they were like, it might be a sister. It might be someone else. So it's like, that's kind

00:32:35.920 of cute to me. And I'm like, if your sister wants to do that for you, she can still be in the kids

00:32:40.960 in life. Like she can still like sniff the baby's head and all that weird stuff. Um, but having done

00:32:47.840 research on this, I didn't realize that surrogacy is like a billion dollar industry. Like you mentioned,

00:32:52.800 um, and also interesting little tidbit of information is that most, um, babies that are

00:32:58.720 surrogated, surrogated, I don't know, born from a surrogate mother are imported from the Ukraine.

00:33:06.080 Interesting. And right now there are bombs and stuff going off in the Ukraine. So

00:33:11.840 a lot of these surrogates have been put in bomb shelters. Oh, so we just can't go collect their

00:33:17.040 babies. Yes. And the babies are now stuck in a war turned country with these like young mothers who

00:33:21.920 are like in bomb shelters, giving birth in like terrible conditions. So, you know, obviously there's

00:33:28.960 a lot to unpack there. Yeah. Um, not every baby is born in a bomb shelter, but it seemed like the

00:33:34.480 more research I did, the more I noticed that they were talking about the baby, like a commodity,

00:33:39.040 like how many rubber duckies have we produced this year? Well, how many babies have we produced? It's

00:33:42.800 like babies are not rubber ducks. They're human beings. Yeah. They're not iPhones. You don't just

00:33:46.640 produce them and then ship them out to other countries for like rich white Americans who can't

00:33:50.480 have their own like that. Or Chinese billionaires. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty messed up when you think

00:33:54.320 about a child being a commodity like that. Well, child is an unconsenting subject. Yeah.

00:33:59.120 In this experiment. That's another good point. They don't consent to this. Why don't we talk about

00:34:03.760 the, um, that ethics, uh, Birmingham's university of Birmingham's article on the ethics of surrogacy.

00:34:10.160 So they pointed out three main points and they kind of lead us through, we kind of touched on them

00:34:14.800 already, but let's, so number one is surrogates. Like how are these people being compensated? So

00:34:20.400 surrogacy is a 24 hour, seven day a week job for 10 months. Are the women being properly

00:34:24.240 compensated? And B is it moral to compensate someone for delivering a baby? These, this is

00:34:30.560 question, moral question the first. Yeah. Then we have, how can we protect the autonomy of a woman's

00:34:35.600 body? If the customer has to say in the pregnancy decisions, this is big. I didn't even think about

00:34:40.880 that. Yeah. Yeah. So just kind of let's, maybe let's start with the first point here and just talk

00:34:45.040 about that. So the commodity aspect. So that's one of the things, the argument you always hear is,

00:34:50.160 oh, this person is consenting to this. But a lot of the times when you're consenting to this,

00:34:54.720 um, you don't, maybe this person's under a lot of pressure to make a lot of money. They're not

00:34:58.000 really given informed consent. These are very high risk pregnancies that can result in literal death

00:35:02.640 of the mother and the child. And a lot of these people who are surrogates have kids of their own.

00:35:06.400 So this person is risking their own life so that you can have a baby, like just so you can rent their

00:35:11.440 womb, so to speak. I think there's a lot of ethical issues there. We could talk about that alone for

00:35:15.840 probably two hours. Yeah. And, and you mentioned when we were chatting before about like, you know,

00:35:19.680 vaccination, cause there's a big debate around, uh, pregnant women getting vaccinated or not and

00:35:24.000 say, I'm the surrogate and I'm choosing not to be vaccinated. And the, and the customer is like,

00:35:29.120 oh no, you must be vaccinated. You absolutely must. And it's like, okay, I no longer have a say in what

00:35:33.840 happens to my body autonomy. I have no, so as you know, as a, uh, well, it goes along with everything

00:35:40.320 else. I feel about morals. Like I believe a woman should have the right to say what happens to her body

00:35:44.320 in terms of vaccination. I, I am personally pro choice when it comes to abortion, but I've said

00:35:48.720 this before, like my choice is life. Right. And I encourage others to do the same, but I do think

00:35:53.280 at the end of the day, the woman should have that autonomy. So when you take, and we can, you know,

00:35:57.920 debate that at length for sure. I know some people at rebel have different opinions on that and that's

00:36:03.120 cool. Like you have to, we have to be able to talk about these things. Definitely. Yeah.

00:36:06.080 And I'm, um, but I believe she should have autonomy. And so, right. And I'll, you know,

00:36:09.840 many cases, um, because when you are a surrogate for, they inject, I don't really,

00:36:14.720 I'm not going to talk about the science about it or anything, but you, you inject eggs and sperm

00:36:19.120 together in the moment. There's like hormonal things that make you more fertile. This is what

00:36:21.600 happens. It's like science. But a lot of times it's results in twins or triplets. And what if the,

00:36:27.680 the person who's buying your, renting your womb, let's call that, uh, doesn't want multiple children.

00:36:32.880 They just want one. Well, they can be like abort to keep one and you have no say you're contractually

00:36:38.320 obliged to abort your baby, which can also be very high risk. That's very high risk. Like

00:36:44.320 you're going under the knife while you're pregnant and they're going to rip out two babies. Oh my God.

00:36:48.560 Like that is so unethical and no one wants to talk about that. Um, I just, I just think that's

00:36:53.520 egregious. That's hugely not to mention the fact that mothers basically have no rights. Like they,

00:36:58.720 like these biological beings have no rights at all. Like they, it's just, it's sad. Like women are

00:37:04.800 more than our uteruses. We're more than our ability to reproduce. And I just think it's,

00:37:09.920 it's kind of erasing women, this whole thing. Cause we're just these like bodies that you use.

00:37:13.760 I've heard rumors about the idea of synthetic wombs. So it's kind of step a where it's like,

00:37:18.880 you don't really need to be fertile. You don't need to be a man and a woman. We don't need any of

00:37:22.080 that. What you need is a viable egg and you need sperm. Maybe we can create, we can make,

00:37:27.120 so they're talking about creating, uh, synthetic wombs, which would take away the surrogacy issue. And maybe,

00:37:31.760 maybe for a lot of the points that we're talking about here, body autonomy and whatever, maybe

00:37:35.200 it's more ethical. Perhaps. Yeah. But then you're like, okay, well, what if they can make synthetic

00:37:39.200 eggs? Yeah. What if they can make synthetic sperm and eggs? Which I think that is a thing. That is a

00:37:43.520 thing. So basically women are rendered useless. So we don't, we're not going to be swimmers because

00:37:48.320 we can't be as fast. So we're not going to be mothers either. Nope. We can, we're just nothing.

00:37:53.120 We're pointless. That sounds great. So feminists has really helped us ladies. Yeah. Thanks.

00:37:57.440 Thanks feminism. Yeah. That's been great. Yeah. It's interesting. And I do think it's okay. Maybe

00:38:02.640 we should also talk a little bit about the fact that like, like the word family and the way that's

00:38:06.880 been defined because so many people are like, oh, when are you going to start a family to a couple?

00:38:11.600 And it's like, no, you are a family. You're married, you're a unit. And if you can't reproduce

00:38:15.520 and you're having fertility issues, by the way, like I sympathize with you. That's sad.

00:38:19.200 It doesn't mean you're not a family just because you can't reproduce.

00:38:21.760 Exactly. And I just think also it's important for couples to realize that you, it's not a,

00:38:27.200 your right to have children. It's, it's a privilege. And there are other ways of going

00:38:32.640 about starting a family, so to speak. And I do think that that should be considered before you

00:38:37.040 decide to rent another woman's uterus and put her at risk and the baby is the more ethical choice like

00:38:42.560 adoption. I do think so. Yeah. Because that's a reaction. Yeah. Like it's a reactive thing that is

00:38:47.200 beneficial to society, beneficial to the kid and the child. Yeah. Um, oh, you made a really good

00:38:52.480 point and maybe we'll get to that. Um, but it's kind of like, there's an analogy between like puppy

00:38:56.960 mills. Yeah. Jennifer Lall, she, I will give her credit. She is like a big expert on all this stuff.

00:39:02.400 So you guys should check her out. But yeah, that's the example where it came from. Well, I, I,

00:39:06.000 my example was like, um, we stopped making puppy mills legal in Canada many, many years ago.

00:39:11.920 Yeah. Um, but it's sort of like surrogacy. This big industry of surrogacy is sort of like a baby mill.

00:39:16.880 Yeah. And then you said, um, what was their point? Yeah. So when, when a dog has puppies,

00:39:23.520 okay, the puppies need to stay with the mummy for like eight to 12 weeks before ripping them away

00:39:28.400 from their mother. And if you've ever had a puppy, you know that you, you get to see it when it's

00:39:31.520 born and then you're like, okay, I have to come back in eight weeks. It needs to be nursed. Yes.

00:39:34.640 It needs to hang out with its mom. It's too small. Yeah. It's too little. Um, so cute. Now I'm thinking

00:39:38.720 about puppies, but with surrogacy, this woman gives birth and then it's immediately ripped out of her

00:39:45.200 hands and it's like, bye. And then it's just put in like, in these situations where it's like a

00:39:49.680 business, it's put in a room with all these other babies, just like chilling, chilling. And they

00:39:54.560 don't have access to the mother. And like, we know that skin on skin contact specifically from the

00:39:58.800 mother is extremely psychological and psychologically beneficial to the baby. A thousand percent.

00:40:03.840 Yeah. Um, they can literally die. Babies can die if they're not touched and hugged. It's,

00:40:08.800 it sounds like it's faux science, but it's not. No. And I believe you. I believe you. It's been,

00:40:13.280 it's been like, this has been what you do with babies for since the beginning of time,

00:40:16.800 you hand the baby to the mom. Yeah. And not to mention too, when this baby goes home with complete

00:40:21.920 strangers, it no longer hears its mom's voice, the heartbeat, the heartbeat, it heard its heartbeat

00:40:28.320 for eight, nine, 10 months inside the womb. And then all of a sudden nothing. And what are the long-term

00:40:33.200 effects of growing like that? What are the long-term effects of that? We don't know because I don't

00:40:37.120 think anyone wants to research it because this business is so lucrative. Yeah. Yeah. And,

00:40:41.200 and because you'll get yelled at if you even question it because it's like homophobic or

00:40:45.840 something or, or anti woman. Like if, if it turns out that I can't have kids, am I going to be

00:40:50.640 immediately offended by this conversation? I hope not. Like I hope if I ever unfortunately get to

00:40:55.760 that stage, like I hope that I can still talk about these things with an open mind and an open heart.

00:40:59.840 Well, that's a great point though. Like if a lot of people too, they go to the doctor and then

00:41:04.240 because they're trying to have kids and they're healthy, they're young, they're allegedly fertile. And the

00:41:08.320 doctor immediately points to like IVF or like surrogacy. And it's like, well, maybe you should

00:41:14.000 try to get to the root of the problem here because so many women, I mean, like we've talked about on

00:41:17.280 the show a million times, your period, your fertility, it's so sensitive. You could, it could be

00:41:21.360 like raining outside and I'm like, I'm late. Yeah, exactly. You know, like anything can impact your

00:41:26.480 fertility. So it's really important that we, first of all, don't just trust one expert opinion, go to

00:41:31.600 multiple doctors and get a true and honest. Before you start injecting yourself with hormones. Yeah,

00:41:36.000 exactly. And wasting money that you don't need to be spending because it's like, it's expensive.

00:41:40.880 It's for the wealthy. This is a, it's a very privileged thing. That's another thing. It's

00:41:44.720 a very privileged thing. Yeah. Yeah. So the people that you're insulting by having these conversations

00:41:48.240 are like rich white gay people. Yeah. So yeah. And Kim Kardashian, I guess. Yeah, exactly.

00:41:53.520 Kim Kardashian. Um, there's the third point from the Birmingham article, uh, legal loopholes in global

00:41:59.520 markets. So there are countries obviously where they have like more lax laws in terms of like what human

00:42:05.680 treatment and human rights. So by X, by exporting children or importing children from these countries,

00:42:11.840 you could be putting a woman and a baby in really unsafe conditions. And we know like probably the

00:42:18.080 Ukraine probably has much laxer laws than we would here in the same, like under the same contractual

00:42:23.520 obligation. That's a good point. So you can be hurting a baby and the mother

00:42:27.120 just by trying to save a buck or get a baby faster than if you were to do it in Canada.

00:42:34.320 Right. Or California. I think there's a huge industry in California. So which makes sense

00:42:38.720 because all these celebrities for some reason, why are we so infertile though? That's like,

00:42:42.880 we're, we don't have any notes on that. I'm just, I know that you, you know, whenever

00:42:46.800 yeah, seriously, like it's like plastics and like everything we do makes us infertile. I didn't

00:42:52.240 like, it's like, oh, the hairspray I'm using. Like, yeah, that, that makes you infertile. Like

00:42:55.360 this pen is plastic. Put it in my mouth. That makes me infertile. Remember Olaplex? There's

00:42:58.160 that article about Olaplex, which is like a very expensive hair treatment product and that can render

00:43:03.280 you infertile. I think just, there's so many that your perfume might even think like, yeah, it's terrifying.

00:43:07.920 So, and that's why I think we advocate for clean beauty so often too and stuff because

00:43:12.240 you're literally putting these things on and in your body and your skin is an organ and it's

00:43:16.880 the largest organ in your whole body. So when you're pasting on chemical makeup,

00:43:21.520 which I totally did just before coming out here. Oh, wow. You look great. Thank you.

00:43:25.440 Worth it. We'll find out. But when you're scraping your face with chemicals and then three years,

00:43:31.840 five years down the line, you're like, oh, I'm infertile better go buy a baby from Ukraine. It's like

00:43:36.320 like maybe this is a huge societal issue that we should be looking at holistically instead

00:43:42.480 of just trying to find ways to make women into baby producing robots. Yeah. And you know,

00:43:48.320 we got to think about the children here even more importantly, you know, like,

00:43:51.760 Won't somebody think of the children? Won't somebody think of the children? No,

00:43:54.800 but seriously. No, seriously. We got to think about the children. We do.

00:43:58.800 And also one of the things you brought to my attention today was that there's a lot of human

00:44:02.880 trafficking actually associated with this industry. That's something else I forgot about.

00:44:06.560 Yeah. They're intertwined and I was reading articles and I'll find it and I'll link it. But,

00:44:11.120 um, yes, there's a huge crossover between people who have gone missing, who are suspected of human

00:44:16.800 being human trafficking victims and people who are suspected of being like surrogacy, like forced

00:44:21.760 surrogacy victims. That is insane. And I, I feel like that's not talked about enough. I have a quote.

00:44:27.920 It's highly upsetting. Well, that's okay. We love being upset on this show. So, oh wait,

00:44:33.360 maybe that's not it. Okay. Yes. So this is from the heritage foundation, which is one of the sources.

00:44:39.040 Um, this is a quote, the surrogacy trafficking trade use the same network that use that was used

00:44:44.800 for domestic work and sex trade from poor regions of India into urban areas. These unmarried girls were

00:44:50.320 impregnated with embryos without their consent. Others were confined in homes. And when girls tried to run

00:44:55.200 away, they were caught, brought back and beaten. Like I have like goosebumps right now. Like that's

00:45:00.320 disgusting. That's like so disgusting and messed up. And obviously like, am I trying to imply that

00:45:06.640 Dave Rubin's baby is like one of these perhaps not, but does he know for sure? Yeah. Even if they say

00:45:12.000 it's like, oh, it's with this, this LA, you know, firm, they have, you know, um, partners all over the

00:45:16.880 world. Binders of women. Yeah. They have binders of women. Like you don't really know what the CD

00:45:22.000 background stuff is going on. And I think that's why it's important that we're having this chat

00:45:26.400 because it's, um, we should be looking into this. We can't just accept something as good because

00:45:31.840 Kim Kardashian and other celebrities say it's good. Like, and that you'll be yelled at if you

00:45:36.080 question it whatsoever. Yeah, exactly. Um, so I do think it's important. And you know,

00:45:39.920 maybe Dave Rubin just didn't know. He doesn't know about this. That's fine. I guess. And maybe it's

00:45:43.840 his sister. Like maybe at the end of the day, or it can't be really because he has two sisters.

00:45:47.680 But yeah, that's probably not. But maybe he like, let's just give him the benefit of the doubt for

00:45:51.760 this thought experiment. Like maybe he knows two women who are like, I would be happy to do this

00:45:55.600 for you. I've had five children on my own. I'm done. Like, I'm a great birth giver. Like,

00:46:00.400 I would love to help you out here. And he was like, oh, no. And he's like, please let me do this.

00:46:04.240 And he's like, okay. Like, yeah, I think there are certain situations where maybe it would be okay.

00:46:08.880 But again, they are high risk pregnancies. So that should be considered,

00:46:12.160 I think like, but all surrogacies. Yeah. Every single pregnancy is a high risk considered high

00:46:17.120 risk. Oh yeah. So it's like, so that puts the baby and the mother in danger. So you don't even have

00:46:22.400 to be in the Ukraine or in India to be in danger. Yeah. That's really upsetting. It is upsetting.

00:46:27.360 Maybe synthetic ones are the way to go. Or we can just stop using like black plastics. Yeah.

00:46:34.080 Like every time you order food on DoorDash or Uber Eats, it comes in that black plastic,

00:46:38.080 which is non-recyclable and is full of like cancerous, fertility-killing chemicals. And

00:46:44.000 we're like, mm, Pad Thai. Like maybe let's stop that. Yeah. I did notice that Swish LA recently

00:46:49.280 changed theirs from those black plastic to paper cardboard. So I'm really, thank you, Swish LA.

00:46:53.840 I'll order a quarter chicken dinner right after this. I think that's great. Yeah. Or half chicken. And

00:46:58.960 I think we should move on. Oh, that was a lot. I'm still fired up. But yeah,

00:47:03.120 let's move on because we got a lot more to talk about. And yeah. And by the way, just to just to

00:47:09.040 finish, we are not experts on this topic, but I just would challenge you to look into it and do some

00:47:13.920 research because it's out there. And we love you. Bye. Yeah. Stay fertile, guys. And now for an ad read.

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00:48:14.800 code rebelnews for 10% off. Okay. So maybe we should talk about some fashion. Fashion. I thought we're

00:48:22.400 going to talk about the trends. We will. Okay. We're going to do a little. Let's do some fashion first.

00:48:26.480 Let's do a segway, a fashion segway. This is relevant. This will be a nice, healthy segway.

00:48:31.520 The meaty segway. So Vogue approved author reveals why all straight women are suddenly

00:48:36.000 dressing like lesbians. It's because they want to feel comfortable and powerful.

00:48:41.440 That doesn't necessarily mean you're a lesbian. Yeah. And like, let's scroll down and look at some

00:48:46.160 of the pictures here because it's like these women aren't dressed like Ellen. Yeah. They look super

00:48:50.960 cute. You can still tell. It's just oversized blazers. Yeah. Like, they look amazing. Yeah.

00:48:55.280 Like, they look like women. Yeah. That's just, they look like. That's just a blazer. It's sexy. Yeah.

00:48:59.280 It's, it's, it's flattering. Like, let's not, let's just let women dress comfy and like feel. Yeah.

00:49:04.240 Like oversized blazers. That's super cute. It's cute. Also, it reminds me of the 80s power suit,

00:49:08.000 which is like a huge thing with like the blown out hair and like. Yeah. I'd love, uh, I don't have the money

00:49:13.680 for it. But if I did, I would be wearing matching blazers and pants every day with like a little

00:49:18.800 bralette underneath. Oh my God. It's so cute with the right shoes. Like it's, and so I just think

00:49:23.520 this Vogue editor is an idiot. They're just looking for stuff to talk about. Yes. Um, speaking of

00:49:28.480 someone who is, I don't even know how to segue this, the Ukrainian transgender man who conveniently

00:49:37.200 identified as a woman to escape Russia's invasion. Yeah. So, okay. I had to, I got confused. So it was a

00:49:42.560 naturally born woman who transitioned to be a man. Um, she had not had top surgery. No. So bottom.

00:49:50.320 Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so when Russia was invading Ukraine, she tried to escape the, um, being, um,

00:49:59.360 what's it called? We don't know cause we're women. The draft. The draft. We're like, what's that thing?

00:50:04.480 Sorry. It's drafty in here. Yeah. Um, so she tried to escape and she did. She successfully dodged

00:50:09.040 the draft by reverting back to a female identity using her old ID card, which was a female ID card

00:50:16.400 and escaping with her mother. She put on nail polish. She wore her mother's top, which was girly.

00:50:21.280 And she tried to speak in a more girly voice. She whispered. Yeah. So, so basically you can change

00:50:26.240 your gender when it's convenient for you. But if I misgender you, I can go to prison. Yeah.

00:50:30.640 That's such a good point. Like what the hell? I'm pretty sure that, um,

00:50:33.520 Bill Burr had a really funny joke about this where it's like, why do men get paid more than women?

00:50:37.200 It's like, because when the boat starts sinking, who gets to get off on the lifeboats? Like women.

00:50:42.160 And I will take that. Yes. And so I'm based on this example. I'm assuming that this

00:50:47.200 individual here would also be getting on those lifeboats in that. No, I'm a man. I've always been

00:50:52.400 a man. I'll go down with the ship. Yeah. No, hand me my AK-47. I'm going to defend my country. Nope. Yeah. Biology must

00:50:59.280 matter. Eh? Um, also interesting to note, uh, everyone is trans. Everyone? Everyone's trans.

00:51:05.760 Oh. Washington Post floats bizarre defense of biologically male swimmer.

00:51:09.760 Um, do you mind if I just read this quote? Please do. I think you're really going to be edified

00:51:15.760 by this quote. So the author is Sally Jenkins. I hate to tell you, but in a way everyone is trans.

00:51:21.600 Mm-hmm. As writer T. Cooper observed, all of us in life's competitive arena are on the way to becoming

00:51:27.200 someone profoundly different than we were. And keeping score is just a way to track the arc

00:51:31.840 of a person from youth to prime to past it. What? If you subtract the aim of becomingness from

00:51:37.680 competition just because you're afraid of Leah Thomas and make it strictly about the chance to

00:51:41.920 win a prize, then you might as well go to an amusement park and shoot a squirt gun at a clown face

00:51:46.720 because it will have about as much meaning. Well, first of all, that's a really fun activity. Yeah.

00:51:54.800 And you can win some cool prizes. You want to win. You want to shoot the clown. But you want to win.

00:51:59.680 Yeah. You want to win. Um, there's a lot there. Um, what the heck is the act of becoming this?

00:52:06.560 What did she say? That's, that's what you, it's you becoming, you're becoming. Okay.

00:52:10.560 What? I don't know. So technically a transgender person is not transgender because they're becoming,

00:52:16.800 they're becoming something just like anyone, regardless of their gender, gender identity,

00:52:21.440 we're all constantly evolving and in flux. So that's her argument. So if I'm like, okay,

00:52:25.920 well now I'm trans, it's like, well, you're trans trans because you could change in the future.

00:52:31.760 And I'm trans trans trans. So basically you're, if you're trans, you're not trans. Yeah.

00:52:35.280 And what she said, and she's just saying we're all evolving. So everyone's trans. It's like,

00:52:39.920 okay, so then trans people are not trans. They're trans. We're not, no one's trans.

00:52:46.160 What if they evolve into being their original gender later on? Like, that's okay. But then

00:52:50.480 also we had to give men, women's gold medals in the meantime during the transition.

00:52:55.440 And they called us bleeders in the meantime. It's so confusing.

00:52:58.320 She also claims that the science regarding whether biological males have a physical advantage over

00:53:03.120 women remains unsettled. She said bone density doesn't matter. Oh my gosh. You know, I don't,

00:53:10.160 there's a few things I hate more than this, the saying, the science is settled. We've heard that

00:53:15.680 a lot through the pandemic. The science is literally never. The science is never settled.

00:53:19.440 Let's not say the science is settled on bone density. However, it's really looking like it

00:53:25.200 matters. Like we have different hip angles so that women can give birth. Our bones are larger,

00:53:30.800 long, lung size, lung capacity, which is really important for swimming. One might say muscle

00:53:36.560 density. Uh, the size of the brain is also different. Women have smaller, more compact brains,

00:53:42.400 meaning that our synapses fire faster and we are able to come to conclusions faster. And like,

00:53:46.960 you notice that. Do you ever notice that where like your husband will be doing something? You're

00:53:50.000 like, I already thought of that like, yeah, six seconds ago. Like, we're basically like psychics.

00:53:54.560 Yeah. We, we, but men have larger brains. And so yes, sometimes they can be slower,

00:53:59.440 but they're also like capable of other things that women are not. Like these are just facts and

00:54:03.920 they're beautiful biological differences that should be celebrated, but no. So yeah. Um,

00:54:10.240 should we blitz? Yeah, let's blitz. Let's have some fun. Yeah. We've had a lot of heavy topics

00:54:17.120 and thank you for staying with us. We're going to have some fun now. Yes. It's going to be,

00:54:21.760 I mean, who knows? It could be devastating. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. Um, all right.

00:54:25.840 First blitz. You want to start? Yes. Let's do it. Pull up our first article. Would you please?

00:54:30.560 Mother 34 is left red faced after drunkenly ordering an Uber X to Ukraine to help out.

00:54:36.080 Thankfully the $4,700, sorry, a hundred pound payment bounced because of insufficient funds in

00:54:42.160 her account. So was, was Uber literally willing to drive from the UK to the Ukraine? Yeah. I,

00:54:48.880 I'm so confused. Like what was, what was her point there? She was going to send from the UK and Uber

00:54:53.920 to the Ukraine? Like she was going to drive herself. You can't even try. I guess there's a

00:54:57.360 ferry. There is ocean though. Yeah. There's ocean. There's ocean. It would be a really long drive.

00:55:01.600 Yeah. And they were, Uber was willing to do it. Like that's what I don't understand.

00:55:05.680 Yeah. The app isn't like, no, this is a million miles. Yeah. Like you're going through like nine

00:55:10.960 countries to get there. And you're crossing an ocean, but we'll do it for the money. I guess it's

00:55:15.120 tough times financially. Yeah. Um, young fitness pro shares what life is like married to a porn star

00:55:22.240 and sex coach who sleeps with different women every week and how she manages her jealousy.

00:55:27.280 Um, she says that she feels very comfortable with his line of work. So long as he's getting

00:55:32.800 regular STI checks and is wearing a condom where possible. Oh, not always. It should be always.

00:55:40.480 Yeah, girl. This is a disaster. I feel like that guy convinced her that this is a really good idea

00:55:45.440 for her. And she's like, yeah, it makes sense. He wears a condom when possible. Yeah. No girl,

00:55:51.120 this is a disaster. I don't usually suggest people get divorced. I, I, my note was Jesus come back.

00:55:59.920 That is help us help. Okay. Moving on. Next is influencer 22, who was left scarred and

00:56:06.480 temporarily blind after tattooing freckles on her face shocks followers by going under the needle

00:56:11.760 again to have her lips inked with permanent makeup. Girl, learn from your mistakes. Oh my god.

00:56:17.120 First of all, getting freckles tattooed is so, so insulting to gingers. Yeah. Come on. It's,

00:56:23.520 it's silly. You don't need that. You can just draw them on. It takes like two seconds if you really

00:56:27.200 want, if you really, really want. Like when freckles aren't in vogue, you're going to be putting makeup

00:56:31.600 on to cover them. Yeah. Wait, freckles? They were for a bit. They were. I remember people were

00:56:36.800 doing like makeup tutorials of like how to splatter your face with like fake freckles. And it's like,

00:56:40.480 cute. So as soon as you sweat, you're going to look great. You're going to have tears. Yeah.

00:56:45.040 It's going to look cute. Let's just let people have freckles who have freckles is my point.

00:56:48.960 And also you're 22. Stop getting, oh my gosh, stop getting like procedures done. Okay. Your face is like

00:56:54.960 fine. It's probably better than fine. It's probably perfect. And you're ruining yourself. Okay.

00:56:59.200 So this is the best one. Dog frantically tries to eat magazine pics of food in hilarious video. Can

00:57:03.840 we, if you scroll down, can we play the video? It's hilarious. It's so cute. It kind of makes me

00:57:08.160 sad because I want him to eat. I know he's so hungry. He deserves the food. Yeah.

00:57:15.520 It looks pretty real. It looks so real. Oh my God. What is that? A dumpling? He's cute. Oh,

00:57:20.320 he's cute. He's so cute. He's so frantic. Somebody feed that little boy. He's clearly hungry.

00:57:26.080 That was like some high def food though. So I don't blame him. I probably would have tried to

00:57:29.200 take a bite as well. Yeah. I, I, I think so too. I, it made me hungry. So next one.

00:57:37.120 What do we have? Sorry. My papers. No, you're good. Is it this one? Yeah. Okay. So next blitz.

00:57:42.880 All my relationships have ended horribly. Should I change my ways? Yes.

00:57:47.440 Yes. Mm-hmm. That's, I think that's it. I think we nailed it. We nailed that. Um,

00:57:52.080 why everyone, you know, suddenly has main character syndrome? Like what else would you have? Yeah. Are

00:57:57.440 you, you're the main character in your life? Like, isn't life a movie? Are you not the main

00:58:01.200 character in your own life? Yeah. Like I'm starring in the movie of my life. Yeah. I, I genuinely don't

00:58:06.080 believe anyone else has a brain or a mind. Like I'm a solifist. So I believe I'm the only sentient

00:58:10.320 mind in the universe. She's also auto-sexual. Yeah. Auto-sexual. Um, but you know, unless you're

00:58:14.720 like a narcissist, it's okay to think, Hey, this is my life and I'm living it. You know,

00:58:19.600 you should be the main character. Yeah. You don't want to be a narcissist about it. No,

00:58:22.800 but healthy balance. Yeah. As with any, get a grip people. All right. AOC's links of fossil fuel

00:58:29.520 extraction to the murder of indigenous women. Why it doesn't work. Well, this is daily wire. So I'm sure

00:58:35.920 that, uh, Ben Shapiro or whoever wrote that really nailed it. Yeah. So it is important to note that

00:58:42.000 there are a lot of these environmental protesters have been extremely, extremely violent in their

00:58:46.720 protests. So who's the violent one, AOC? Is it these fossil fuel companies or is it the, uh,

00:58:52.560 progressive people who are protesting them? Well, there was, um, some vandalism done on a

00:58:57.840 construction site. It was actually during the truckers convoy protest when the emergency act,

00:59:03.600 emergencies act was, um, invoked to protect people from the mean old truckers. But at the same time

00:59:10.800 in British Columbia, a group of, I believe it was Aboriginal protesters went with, with, uh,

00:59:15.680 sledgehammers and they smashed up a bunch of, uh, construction equipment. Now they weren't violent

00:59:22.400 towards humans, but can you even imagine if they, if truckers had sledgehammers and smashed a mailbox

00:59:28.640 of any kind or anything, like anything was smashed, it would have been game over.

00:59:32.960 There would have been peppers. Well, there already was peaceful protesters. Imagine if they had

00:59:36.960 actually made any mistakes. Yeah. No, it's a great point. I don't know what AOC is on about,

00:59:40.960 but she's probably wrong. Yeah. She's typically wrong. You look cute though. Um, I moved into my

00:59:45.520 work cubicle to get free rent, but got busted and fired. Well, you know, maybe you shouldn't have

00:59:50.400 advertised it on Tik TOK. You know what happened? Yes. He posted two videos on Tik TOK. It's like,

00:59:56.640 you gotta, if you're going to do it, like you gotta be a little more sly. That's the thing. I love these

01:00:00.560 people who post themselves like breaking the law. And then it's like, then they were caught because

01:00:03.840 they posted it on Tik TOK and video, like don't videotape your crimes. Yeah. It makes it harder

01:00:08.400 to solve them. It's like rule number one of being a criminal. Also, these companies pay you so little

01:00:12.400 that they actually like, don't leave you with any other option. Yeah. That's a good point. So if there's

01:00:16.800 a shower there, like, but you know, you could try to get a new job, a new job, you could ask for a raise,

01:00:21.280 ask for a raise, you know, start there and then use a part-time work on Fiverr. Yeah. That's okay.

01:00:27.520 Next one. This, this is why wearing a mask makes you hotter. New study. I'm going to ask you a

01:00:34.640 question right now. We'll do our own study. Do masks make people hotter? Well, I was thinking

01:00:39.040 about this. Maybe people think this because it's covering up your ugly face. That's the only thing

01:00:45.520 I can think of. Yeah. Yeah. Anonymity. Yeah. You're like, oh, maybe he's hot. He takes it off

01:00:49.440 and you're like, it's Pete Davidson. He's got a jangle tooth. Yeah. No, I'm going to just say,

01:00:57.120 according to our study of two. No, they don't. So that's a new study for you. They do not.

01:01:02.640 And the science is settled. The science is settled.

01:01:06.800 Grammys 2022 host Trevor Noah says award shows can be political, but should they? Like, should they,

01:01:13.520 Trevor and also never trust anyone who has two first names? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. He's,

01:01:17.920 he's actually becoming like more base, which is funny because he's just saying things that

01:01:21.760 like centrist slash conservatives have been saying for years and people are now like, oh yeah,

01:01:26.800 he makes some good points. And it's like, oh, almost like we were all called Nazis for saying

01:01:30.240 that five years ago. But Trevor Noah is now saying it also. No, they should not be political. People

01:01:35.040 are watching for entertainment. Not me. Because I, you know, I was going to say have a life.

01:01:40.960 She does. That's a bit of a stretch, but I have better things to do. Like

01:01:44.400 play with my dog's ears. They're very silky. They're, it's a cute dog. I'd literally rather

01:01:48.800 watch my dog's ears flop in the wind than watch the Grammys. Plus we can just look at pictures

01:01:53.120 of their dresses later. Yeah. We, and we will. Yeah. And we will show them on this show.

01:01:57.600 Okay. Last but not least, Pete Davidson, Davidson drops out of Jeff Bezos. Okay. Again,

01:02:03.520 Pete Davidson drops out of Jeff Bezos's blue origin space flight. Okay. Well, Pete, he doesn't want

01:02:10.000 to leave that big old warm bosom of Kim Kardashian. I think so too. I think maybe he's scared she'll

01:02:14.560 have moved on when he returns. She's like, are you still in orbit? Because I had dinner

01:02:20.240 Reza's. I guess I'll go with Kanye. Kanye bought me like a really expensive coat. So I had to go back

01:02:26.240 with him. Yeah. I'd say yes to that. And like, maybe he thinks that, um, Kanye has so much like

01:02:30.640 power that he can just be like, send it out of orbit. Like his, his shuttle's going to go like,

01:02:35.920 phew. Bye, Pete. Maybe he's friends with Elon. Maybe. Elon's like at home. Yeah. He's like,

01:02:39.760 his, he, people think he's playing video games, but he's like controlling the space. Yeah. And it's

01:02:43.200 like, bye, Pete. Bye. Oh, that means there's an opening at SNL though, if he gets lost in space.

01:02:48.720 We are available. We're a duo. Yes. We will not work alone. No. But I will secretly work alone. I will

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Miss Understood No. 6 — Lifting The Mask On Surrogacy

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