Rebel News Podcast - MUST SEE： New poll reveals how citizens see journalists — and how journalists see themselves

00:00:00.000 Tonight, an amazing opinion poll measures the difference between how citizens see journalists

00:00:05.180 and how journalists see themselves. You're going to want to see this.

00:00:09.220 It's November 30th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:17.340 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:21.120 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:24.840 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:27.840 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:38.400 I've got this great poll about journalists I want to show you.

00:00:42.360 Huge sample size, meticulous methodology. Just gorgeous.

00:00:46.620 It won't come as news to you, I bet, but it will come as news to most journalists themselves.

00:00:51.160 Bad news, news they will bury, which is probably why you haven't heard of this study,

00:00:55.680 even though it is meticulous and authoritative and very, very interesting.

00:01:00.320 Because journalists are narcissists. It's part of the job, I think.

00:01:05.340 You have to have a certain arrogance if you're going to tell people what to think of the world.

00:01:10.640 I mean, I suppose there's some pure, 100%, just-the-facts reporters out there

00:01:15.560 who don't self-aggrandize, who don't spin their own personal opinion, having a tough time naming one.

00:01:23.060 And even if they cover something with minimal commentary and don't make themselves the center of the story,

00:01:27.760 even the choice of what journalists cover and what they ignore, that's political too, isn't it?

00:01:32.220 And that's my point. If you're in the business of telling people what to think and how to think and what to do,

00:01:37.420 you've got to have a bit of an ego.

00:01:38.500 And by the way, I'm not excluding myself from this criticism, but I think we wear it on our sleeve here,

00:01:43.680 a little more explicitly. Part of the mission of the rebel is to change the world.

00:01:47.580 But I think that aside from Hollywood celebrities, would you agree with me?

00:01:51.980 The journalists have the highest self-regard of any profession, if you could call journalism a profession.

00:01:59.520 I mean, maybe fighter pilots or astronauts have more arrogance.

00:02:02.760 Maybe the top brain surgeon in the country has a sense of importance that is unmoored from reality, maybe.

00:02:12.060 But those people really do have objectively quantifiable skills,

00:02:16.420 and they've got to be the best of the best, right?

00:02:19.820 And I also note that those professions, astronaut, fighter pilot, brain surgeon,

00:02:24.280 they do deal with life and death too.

00:02:26.740 So you can perhaps excuse some arrogance.

00:02:28.740 In fact, you probably want some arrogance.

00:02:32.760 Journalists, not so much. 0.98

00:02:34.360 Especially the junk journalism of the left these days. 0.97

00:02:38.180 The rivers of leftist groupthink, sexed up occasionally by clickbait, 0.99

00:02:43.860 but always just droning on and on, scolding readers for being racist, sexist, transphobic, Islamophobic, whatever.

00:02:53.080 I mean, BuzzFeed, Vice, Vox, all of that.

00:02:56.520 Here's just one of a hundred examples I could show you.

00:02:59.460 The holiday TV classic, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, is seriously problematic, people.

00:03:05.940 They say that it's racist and homophobic.

00:03:08.060 I'm not even kidding.

00:03:09.860 And then there's this one.

00:03:10.700 Did you see this a while back?

00:03:13.640 Sleeping Beauty is a form of rape culture, you see. 1.00

00:03:17.120 Because when the prince kissed her to wake her up, he didn't have her consent.

00:03:21.440 These are just crazy examples, but I put it to you that at least 50% of the news these days,

00:03:27.400 not even from the kooks like BuzzFeed or, you know, Vice,

00:03:32.560 I put it to you, 50% of the news these days, even on global news or the CBC,

00:03:36.660 it's just some item designed to change your views about, I don't know, Syrian migrants

00:03:41.400 or transgenderism or global warming or whatever.

00:03:44.260 It's just scolding arrogantly.

00:03:46.580 So here's what's so great about this new study I mentioned, this new poll.

00:03:51.440 It doesn't just ask the general public what they think of journalists.

00:03:56.060 It asks the same question of journalists themselves and then compares the two sets of answers.

00:04:03.160 It would be like asking those jet pilots I mentioned before,

00:04:05.800 or maybe let's say a commercial jet pilot, how do you think the flight went?

00:04:10.520 And then asking the passengers too and then comparing.

00:04:13.140 Or, I don't know, asking someone who just did have brain surgery or heart surgery,

00:04:18.540 how do you think the surgery went?

00:04:20.260 And then comparing that answer to what the surgeon himself thought.

00:04:23.320 Useful, I mean, pretty important to have those two answers in sync.

00:04:27.000 If a doctor thought the surgery went great, but the patient thinks it was botched,

00:04:31.760 if the plane had a terrible landing, but the pilots thought it was smooth,

00:04:34.960 then there's some work to do.

00:04:36.780 So how do journalists do in the eyes of their customers

00:04:39.560 versus how do they do in their own eyes?

00:04:44.000 Well, two major U.S. universities tested that question.

00:04:47.040 Arizona State and University of Texas at Austin,

00:04:50.680 which, if you don't know, Austin is considered the San Francisco of Texas

00:04:54.600 in terms of how far left wing it is.

00:04:57.100 Austin is as leftist as Portland.

00:04:59.020 These are not Texas conservatives, by the way.

00:05:01.640 So this was a study done by the Center for Media Engagement,

00:05:05.380 and it was released just two weeks ago.

00:05:06.920 So this is fresh stuff.

00:05:08.500 I haven't seen it in the news of you.

00:05:10.000 Let me quote their description of the study.

00:05:12.980 This is how they describe it.

00:05:14.580 Together, they're talking about the two universities,

00:05:17.100 We designed and tested an online survey that three news organizations used

00:05:22.220 to examine transparency, engagement, and mutual understanding

00:05:26.160 with the communities they serve.

00:05:28.680 In total, 4,854 people participated in the survey from three communities.

00:05:34.320 I think that's pronounced Macon, Georgia, Fresno, California,

00:05:37.480 and Kansas City, Missouri.

00:05:38.540 Our partner newsrooms in those communities

00:05:40.680 who also surveyed 88 journalists and 51 news sources.

00:05:45.740 I'll explain what that is in a second.

00:05:47.740 This report provides insight into what we learned across those surveys.

00:05:51.580 So that's how they describe it.

00:05:53.300 Now, that's pretty big, right?

00:05:54.440 4,854 survey respondents.

00:05:57.340 That is huge.

00:05:58.780 And 88 journalists.

00:06:00.480 And this was done in cooperation with their newspapers, right?

00:06:03.380 And 51 different news sources.

00:06:04.880 And by that, they mean someone who's quoted in a news story.

00:06:07.900 That's what they call a news source, like the person they interviewed for a story.

00:06:12.540 So they had California in the west, Missouri in the heartland,

00:06:15.620 Georgia in the southeast.

00:06:17.120 It's not the whole country, but it is a mix, isn't it?

00:06:19.580 And I'm going to spend the rest of my monologue looking at just two graphs.

00:06:23.600 Here's the first one.

00:06:25.100 Now, hold this up on the screen for a bit because I'm going to go through it.

00:06:27.720 Let's understand what this shows.

00:06:29.440 The three colors, as you can see, represents the three different groups of people.

00:06:32.920 Blue is the public. 0.86

00:06:34.700 That's the customer.

00:06:35.480 Yellow is the sources of information.

00:06:38.500 That is a person who witnessed a car crash and then was interviewed by a journalist,

00:06:41.820 a spokesman for a union or a company, or maybe a politician.

00:06:44.720 As in the source of information given to the journalist.

00:06:48.160 And of course, red is the journalist themselves, or orange, I guess, dark orange.

00:06:53.360 And they were rating the journalist on a scale of one to five.

00:06:55.660 One is the worst.

00:06:56.800 Five is the best.

00:06:58.740 And this, as you can see, image has three questions on it.

00:07:02.460 You can see the questions at the bottom.

00:07:05.020 And this is about fact-based reporting, as you can see in the title.

00:07:09.680 So let me start with the question on the left.

00:07:11.760 You see that?

00:07:12.280 Those little three bars on the left there underneath it.

00:07:15.860 Do journalists care about getting the facts right?

00:07:20.120 As you can see, journalists, that's the dark orange bar.

00:07:22.620 They gave themselves 4.8 out of five.

00:07:25.620 You know, that works out to, what, what's that, like 96%?

00:07:30.300 That's an A+.

00:07:31.760 That's almost perfect.

00:07:33.840 That's the brain surgeon saying, I did that surgery perfectly.

00:07:38.960 That guy, he's going to be back to normal.

00:07:41.900 You won't even know he had a stroke or something.

00:07:43.580 I don't know.

00:07:44.560 That's the pilot saying, perfect three-point landing in the jet.

00:07:47.920 Smooth as silk.

00:07:49.060 Landed on schedule.

00:07:50.160 Great service.

00:07:51.400 That's the pilot saying, I'm awesome.

00:07:52.680 The people who actually had to deal with the reporters, the news sources, as you can see,

00:07:58.880 that's the yellow bar there on the left, they gave the reporters just 3.5 out of five

00:08:03.380 for getting the facts right.

00:08:05.940 It's not quite a failing grade, but it's pretty iffy.

00:08:09.120 That's a percentage.

00:08:09.880 That's 70%.

00:08:10.660 That's weak.

00:08:11.920 So one-third of the time, I'm just interpreting here, one-third of the time, there'd be a

00:08:16.560 factual problem.

00:08:17.340 That's one way of looking at it.

00:08:19.340 But look at the bar graph on the very, very, very left.

00:08:22.320 That's the one in blue.

00:08:24.060 That's the public.

00:08:25.080 They say journalists care about getting the facts right only 2.9 stars out of five.

00:08:32.600 Would you stay at a hotel that got 2.9 stars out of five in terms of cleanliness or service?

00:08:39.200 I guess if you were really looking to save money or were desperate or something.

00:08:43.880 Now, I don't know who's right here, but there's a rule of thumb.

00:08:47.620 The customer's always right.

00:08:48.880 You ever heard that?

00:08:49.500 And the customer says the media don't care about facts.

00:08:54.540 And maybe it's true or maybe it's not true.

00:08:56.320 Maybe the journalists are right here.

00:08:58.440 But what's really interesting here, and that's the main point, is that the journalists themselves

00:09:02.780 are obviously in their own planet, on their own world, in their own galaxy.

00:09:07.440 And to them, they're as close to saints as can be without a beatification, 96%.

00:09:11.840 Now, let's look at that chart in the middle there.

00:09:13.620 Put it back up for a sec.

00:09:14.360 And you can see the question at the bottom, are the journalists fair in their reporting?

00:09:21.560 Now, a few journalists admit they're not.

00:09:23.900 But look, you can still see they give themselves 4.6 out of five.

00:09:26.800 You see that?

00:09:27.720 We're right in the middle here, that orange bar.

00:09:30.660 News sources, that is people who talk to journalists, they know the media isn't fair.

00:09:35.740 They're only 3.2 stars out of five.

00:09:39.200 And look at the public, 2.7.

00:09:42.180 The public says the media just isn't fair.

00:09:46.280 And in this case, they really are the judge of fairness, aren't they?

00:09:48.860 They're really all that matters.

00:09:50.360 Now, the last group of charts is on the right-hand side, those three bars.

00:09:54.100 That provides all the information you really need to understand.

00:09:57.400 Sorry, excuse me.

00:09:58.160 That's asking, do journalists provide the information you need to fully understand the news?

00:10:02.440 Sorry, that was they were asked, do journalists provide all the information needed to fully

00:10:06.380 understand the news?

00:10:07.500 And the result is just a disaster.

00:10:09.120 Now, I don't necessarily think it's a fair question.

00:10:12.380 I don't know if it's possible for someone to fully understand the news in a two-minute

00:10:16.940 soundbite, or even a half-hour show, or even a 500-word newspaper article.

00:10:21.480 So maybe it's an impossible question.

00:10:23.340 But for however hard journalists say they are trying, 3.9 out of five, they fail in the eyes

00:10:30.840 of their own customers.

00:10:32.440 It's a disaster.

00:10:34.180 Now, there are so many numbers here, I don't want to blizzard you under them, but there

00:10:38.080 is one more comparison chart I want to show you.

00:10:41.900 This just uses one-word tests to describe the media and ask people what they think.

00:10:49.200 It's great that way, right?

00:10:50.280 So you basically, you see those words at the bottom, biased, engaging, credible, accurate,

00:10:53.760 trustworthy, fair, transparent.

00:10:55.000 They just put these to people and say, do you strongly disagree, or do you strongly agree?

00:11:00.340 Scale of one to five.

00:11:00.980 So let's start at the far left there.

00:11:03.560 Biased.

00:11:04.240 Oh my God, you bet.

00:11:06.620 The public, that's that blue line there, says journalists are biased.

00:11:09.760 In fact, as you can see, that is actually the highest rating the public gives journalists

00:11:14.400 on anything I've shown you.

00:11:15.660 It's the single most fitting word in this whole poll, the one word the public is most likely

00:11:21.440 to use to describe the media.

00:11:23.280 Biased.

00:11:23.700 That's 3.4 out of five say biased.

00:11:26.980 Now, most sources agree, too.

00:11:29.320 You see, that's 3.0.

00:11:31.120 Again, by source, I mean people who are actually quoted by journalists so they would know.

00:11:34.420 Now, journalists themselves only rate themselves a two out of five on bias, but think about it

00:11:38.940 still, that's an incredible number of journalists who admit they're biased.

00:11:43.020 That's 40% of journalists just admit they're biased.

00:11:45.800 68% of the public thinks so.

00:11:48.000 Now, the next group of bars is testing the word engaging.

00:11:52.320 I think that's a weird one.

00:11:53.580 I think engaging means interesting, captivating.

00:11:56.800 He's an engaging speaker.

00:11:58.500 She's an engaging conversationalist.

00:12:01.240 So as you can see there, the media thinks they're fabulous.

00:12:05.020 The public, yeah, not so much.

00:12:07.340 It's like someone who thinks they're a great joke teller or a great singer or a great dancer.

00:12:12.860 And everyone else says, yeah, man, you're okay, but don't quit your day job.

00:12:17.440 You're maybe not quite as great as you think you are.

00:12:19.960 Well, these folks whose day job is journalism think they are riveting.

00:12:26.600 And the fact that newspaper subscriptions decline every month hasn't rung the alarm for them

00:12:30.920 that no one agrees that they're engaging.

00:12:32.960 No one agrees.

00:12:34.500 Okay, put the chart back up.

00:12:35.680 Look at the next one there.

00:12:36.660 Credible.

00:12:37.280 Isn't that an important one?

00:12:38.620 And the one after that, accurate, very, very similar results.

00:12:42.140 Journalists love themselves.

00:12:43.900 4.6.

00:12:45.120 They truly are in love with their own work.

00:12:46.680 They rate themselves so highly.

00:12:48.040 That's 92%.

00:12:49.200 That's an A.

00:12:49.960 In school.

00:12:51.480 The public, whoa, barely half that.

00:12:54.700 2.9 out of 5 on both counts.

00:12:56.700 Credible and accurate.

00:12:57.880 No one believes the media.

00:12:59.700 That's what credible means.

00:13:01.400 No one believes the media.

00:13:03.480 Trustworthy.

00:13:04.160 You see that?

00:13:04.760 I'm now just to the right of center there.

00:13:07.840 Even bigger gap.

00:13:08.980 Huge gap.

00:13:10.260 Fair and transparent are the last two questions.

00:13:13.040 Fail, fail, fail.

00:13:14.080 Unless you ask the journalists themselves.

00:13:16.640 In which case they give themselves a solid B for fairness and transparency.

00:13:21.700 But this is a U.S. study done in three states.

00:13:24.720 I read a little bit about the methodology to you.

00:13:26.700 But it looks methodical and accurate as far as it goes.

00:13:29.560 What do you think the results would be in Canada?

00:13:31.000 I think they'd be worse.

00:13:35.340 Because we have less competition here.

00:13:36.940 I think our media is more of a monolith.

00:13:38.860 We have a less diverse national conversation.

00:13:40.940 That scolding, that political BS I showed you.

00:13:43.800 How everything is propaganda.

00:13:44.840 I think we're worse up here than they are down there in the states.

00:13:48.600 The CBC, for example, is bigger than all other private news media combined.

00:13:53.800 And they're explicitly political on everything from global warming to gun control to Donald

00:13:58.180 Trump to Trudeau to migrants, whatever.

00:14:00.560 I mean, how do you think David Suzuki, who has had a perch at the CBC for 40 years, how

00:14:07.000 would he fare on those questions?

00:14:09.120 Transparency, accuracy, fairness, bias.

00:14:13.040 Now, if you were honest, he'd admit he's as biased as any other anti-oil extremist in

00:14:18.380 the country.

00:14:18.760 He's full of bias.

00:14:20.020 But the CBC pretends, or maybe they actually think, he's just the bee's knees.

00:14:23.720 He's a great journalist.

00:14:25.940 I bet Canadians know they're being lied to every day.

00:14:28.260 I think that's why Canadians watch so much U.S. news.

00:14:31.240 Why Canadians, when polled, disagree with the elites most recently on the carbon tax and

00:14:35.640 immigration levels.

00:14:37.480 I mean, I remember when Justin Trudeau gave $10.5 million to Omar Khadr.

00:14:41.560 Remember that?

00:14:41.940 The media loved it.

00:14:44.300 It was perfect.

00:14:45.940 And Trudeau obviously did it for their applause.

00:14:48.440 But Trudeau, I think he was genuinely surprised when ordinary Canadians hated it.

00:14:53.700 He made the mistake, easy to do when you're in an elitist bubble, of thinking that what

00:14:57.600 the media says is what people think.

00:15:00.760 Real Canadians hate Omar Khadr. 0.99

00:15:02.500 He's a terrorist. 1.00

00:15:03.320 He's a murderer. 1.00

00:15:05.160 49% of Canadians want less immigration. 0.99

00:15:07.660 Only 6% want more.

00:15:08.840 Another huge difference between the elites and the mainstream Canadians.

00:15:12.440 Trudeau is giving us more anyways.

00:15:13.740 And the media loves it.

00:15:14.880 And they scold anyone who disagrees as racist.

00:15:16.980 So yeah, we know our media are in the tank.

00:15:19.720 And that's all before Justin Trudeau's new $595 million slush fund kicks in.

00:15:25.520 How do you think that would affect all of these numbers, from bias to transparency to factual

00:15:30.880 accuracy?

00:15:31.840 If Canadians come to know that their newspapers and TV stations are getting payoffs from Trudeau

00:15:39.120 in an election year, do you think that would increase or decrease trust and belief in the

00:15:44.360 accuracy of the news?

00:15:45.280 Obviously, it would make all those numbers worse.

00:15:48.400 Journalists are narcissists.

00:15:50.180 But at least narcissists, if you know your Greek mythology, actually was beautiful.

00:15:58.680 Journalists love themselves as wise and honest and accurate and fair.

00:16:04.280 But they are objectively none of those things.

00:16:08.180 And more to the point, their own customers don't think so.

00:16:13.100 Look, we're not perfect here at The Rebel either.

00:16:15.960 I'm sure we make each of those errors too.

00:16:18.440 But we do our best to side with the people and to listen to our customers.

00:16:21.760 Because if we don't, we're not going to be in business long.

00:16:24.740 Because we live 100% on the contributions of our viewers.

00:16:27.540 That's you.

00:16:28.280 That is our ultimate guarantee.

00:16:30.340 That's our ultimate fail-safe.

00:16:31.720 The way we know we're respecting our customers.

00:16:34.320 Because if we don't, our crowdfunding would dry up overnight.

00:16:37.480 We have to be attentive and respectful of our viewers.

00:16:41.980 But with the rest of the media, especially with this slush fund now,

00:16:47.300 there is only one viewer they have to please now.

00:16:52.700 And his name is Justin Trudeau.

00:16:54.320 And he has $595 million for them.

00:16:57.200 As he announced last week, that money, though,

00:17:00.600 it's only journalists that he can trust that gets it.

00:17:04.680 He actually used that word trust.

00:17:06.280 So, yeah, I'd like to see a survey like this done in Canada, wouldn't you?

00:17:10.140 But then again, no university or media company would dare to do it.

00:17:15.040 Now, would they?

00:17:16.860 For the reason I've just described.

00:17:19.840 Stay with us for more.

00:17:20.740 Well, yesterday we talked to Gideon Mammon,

00:17:39.300 a senior immigration and refugee lawyer,

00:17:41.860 about something called the UN Global Compact for Migration,

00:17:46.980 talking about how it normalizes and legalizes mass migration and grants new rights.

00:17:55.140 As I mentioned to you, I typed in the word rights into a search engine for that one document,

00:18:00.600 and it showed up 112 times.

00:18:03.520 Well, of course, when there is a right to something,

00:18:06.220 someone has to provide that something.

00:18:08.320 And the parliamentary budget officer has calculated the cost of the tens of thousands of migrants so far

00:18:16.000 who have simply walked across the border from New York State to Quebec

00:18:21.080 since Justin Trudeau tweeted an invitation a couple years ago.

00:18:25.040 Let me quote from an article in today's Toronto Sun by our friend Anthony Fury.

00:18:29.740 The headline is,

00:18:30.840 Illegal border processing costs alone to exceed $1 billion.

00:18:36.440 Parliamentary Budget Office report.

00:18:39.140 $1.1 billion, to be precise.

00:18:41.760 And joining us now is the author of this article,

00:18:44.460 our friend from the Toronto Sun, Anthony Fury.

00:18:47.220 Anthony, that's a staggering amount of money, and that's just for the feds, isn't it?

00:18:51.580 Yeah, exactly.

00:18:52.820 This is a really interesting report.

00:18:54.420 And what the PBO does, Ezra, is when any parliamentarian makes an official request,

00:18:59.440 hey, can you get to the bottom of item X,

00:19:01.920 they go about and do it as much as they can with their resources.

00:19:05.240 So one MP said, I'd like to know the cost of all of this.

00:19:07.800 So they said, all right, we're going to do it.

00:19:09.720 We're going to look.

00:19:10.280 And they compiled data from all these different federal agencies,

00:19:13.220 RCMP, CSIS, CBSA, which is the Border Services Agency,

00:19:17.680 the Interim Federal Health Program, and so forth,

00:19:20.340 and tried to tabulate all of this money to find just how much was this costing.

00:19:25.440 Now, when you really delve into the report, one of the things that's really interesting, Ezra,

00:19:28.860 is it's really hard to get a handle on actually the costs year over year that we're putting into this,

00:19:34.880 because it is just such a mess, the whole program.

00:19:37.540 You've got migrants coming across the border, and they're accessing federal services,

00:19:41.720 which is the RCMP when they see them, the processing at the Immigration and Refugee Board.

00:19:45.960 But then they're getting on various buses and what have you to places like Toronto and Cornwall,

00:19:50.280 and they're accessing services there that are provincial, that are municipal as well.

00:19:54.100 So the PBO wanted to do as best of a capture as possible.

00:19:58.140 They did federal money.

00:19:59.680 So they looked at just the federal agencies.

00:20:01.680 So really, all this $1.1 billion is, Ezra, is the number to process the requests,

00:20:08.020 to process their asylum claims.

00:20:10.020 This is not at all including any sort of social services.

00:20:13.420 You give them any housing.

00:20:14.600 You add that in, it is much higher.

00:20:16.580 Yeah.

00:20:16.860 And I should point out, and I know this is obvious to everyone,

00:20:20.740 the vast, vast majority of these folks have not finished their refugee or asylum claim.

00:20:28.280 They've just started it.

00:20:29.360 So they've gone through the intake, but just a few percent of them have had their hearing.

00:20:37.560 They're scheduling hearings for some of these folks as far in the future as 10 years.

00:20:43.040 I saw a story out of Quebec that someone got an appointment 10 years into the future.

00:20:48.700 So this is just so far.

00:20:51.000 And I see in your story that just these processing costs federally are working out.

00:20:57.080 By next year, it'll be over $16,000 per person.

00:21:02.300 And that's really just a paperwork cost, isn't it?

00:21:04.220 That's just really to stamp and file and just to intake them, isn't it?

00:21:09.440 Yeah, pretty much.

00:21:10.540 I mean, that is the combined fee of the man hours of the RCMP guy being your bellhop when you first enter,

00:21:15.720 to the other person submitting your claim, to the Immigration Refugee Board judge hearing you.

00:21:20.460 And that $16,000 is what they've compiled to be the average.

00:21:23.620 So the reasonable amount of time that they expect this will take.

00:21:26.560 It goes up to about $35,000, which would be the cost for a claimant to keep appealing after they get rejected

00:21:33.080 and then to eventually be deported.

00:21:34.800 So the costs that come with all of that and the deportation.

00:21:37.620 The other thing that's very interesting that they note, Ezra, is that the more people who come across the border,

00:21:42.580 of course, the more people who they're going to be making claims, and the less efficient the system becomes.

00:21:48.000 So the less economy of scale you have, so the more per person it costs.

00:21:52.540 It's a very interesting idea, but a very sensible one, that the more the system gets bogged down,

00:21:57.200 the more expensive it becomes every single month.

00:22:00.360 Yeah.

00:22:00.920 And, of course, I see in your article that the city of Toronto, so, again, you've got your federal costs.

00:22:06.840 You've alluded to them.

00:22:07.860 You've got your provincial costs.

00:22:09.380 That's everything from health care to schools.

00:22:11.640 And the city, which runs homeless shelters, food banks, things of that sort,

00:22:15.700 I see that 40% of the folks in these Toronto shelters are Trudeau's migrants.

00:22:24.480 So, I mean, obviously, Aboriginal people, urban Aboriginals, have had a challenge on homelessness and need shelters.

00:22:31.440 And, of course, there's just Canadian citizens down on their luck.

00:22:34.900 Like, but approximately 40% of people in our homeless shelters, they're foreigners who've come in as migrants.

00:22:40.660 And, I don't know, there's no formal housing for them.

00:22:43.180 They don't have an income.

00:22:44.120 They just, I don't know what the reason is.

00:22:46.160 But that's where they are.

00:22:47.000 You know, it's a very underreported element, Ezra.

00:22:50.460 As you know, I'm also a host on SiriusXM Canada.

00:22:52.960 And right across the street from our studio is a parking lot.

00:22:55.540 Well, it was a parking lot.

00:22:56.560 It was owned by the city of Toronto.

00:22:58.060 And they've closed down the parking lot for an area where there's not much parking,

00:23:01.620 but there are a lot of people going for work and to frequent the shops and the restaurants and so forth.

00:23:06.640 They've shut down something like 150, 200 parking spaces to put up a temporary facility to deal with the influx of a lot of more people coming to the shelters,

00:23:16.100 which is obviously caused by the migrants.

00:23:17.940 It's this temporary shelter.

00:23:19.720 And they've paid something like a million dollars for it.

00:23:21.760 And if you read it based on what just the reporting is, you'd think it's just some little shacks they're putting up, 0.97

00:23:28.060 like you make a tent when you go camping with your family, and then they tear it down later.

00:23:30.560 I've been watching this thing every day as I'm in the studio hosting my radio show.

00:23:34.820 And these guys are bringing in plumbing, bringing in new sort of cement blocks that they drill into the foundation.

00:23:40.740 I mean, this parking lot's done.

00:23:41.980 It doesn't exist anymore.

00:23:43.020 And this is pretty much, you know, the old saying is there's nothing more permanent than a pilot project.

00:23:46.780 This shelter isn't going away.

00:23:48.100 So this has, I think, permanently changed a lot of the Toronto social service delivery.

00:23:53.040 Yeah, that's incredible.

00:23:54.040 There's one more thing that you bring to light, which I find very interesting.

00:23:57.420 Of course, the global compact for migration, which we've been going through on our show yesterday with Giddy Mammon,

00:24:04.640 today on my show Battleground, we went through 10 days.

00:24:07.040 Ezra, let me say something on that.

00:24:08.920 I see the emails.

00:24:09.920 People say, nobody's writing about this.

00:24:11.700 And then I end up getting hate mail from people saying, why aren't you writing about it?

00:24:14.800 I've written about it twice.

00:24:15.740 I have two columns on it.

00:24:16.920 So I'm on it.

00:24:17.640 I know you are.

00:24:18.500 And I wasn't going there.

00:24:19.520 In fact, I was just about to say, you're the only guy.

00:24:22.640 You're one.

00:24:23.140 I can count on like two fingers.

00:24:25.220 The number, sorry, I wasn't, I wasn't, in fact, I was just.

00:24:28.200 No, no, I know.

00:24:28.840 But I'm getting, I'm getting the hate mail saying they think I've been bought off by

00:24:31.920 Dresden Trudeau.

00:24:32.720 No, well, listen.

00:24:33.680 To not talk about the migration, but I am.

00:24:35.560 Listen, you keep tweeting those and I'll retweet it to our people.

00:24:38.480 So they'll, they'll see.

00:24:39.420 No, you're, you're one of the few guys who's actually read the thing.

00:24:42.840 And there's a, what's interesting to me is that document, part of me doesn't make a lot

00:24:49.880 of distinctions between refugees, asylum seekers, or just any old migrant.

00:24:56.780 And here's what, the reason I mentioned that is I'm looking at your, your story in the,

00:25:00.800 in the sun today.

00:25:01.760 And let me just quote a paragraph of what you wrote.

00:25:04.600 And I'd love you to unpack this a bit.

00:25:06.240 In terms of country of origin.

00:25:08.240 So we're talking about the PBO study here.

00:25:11.160 While it was originally reported that Haitians made up the majority, they have now been overtaken

00:25:15.780 by Nigerians.

00:25:17.560 Those two countries comprise the vast majority of arrivals with people from Turkey, Colombia,

00:25:22.280 and Eritrea making up a small fraction.

00:25:24.860 And here's my question to you.

00:25:27.340 I mean, I'm not an expert in those countries, but I don't think there's a genocide in those

00:25:31.560 countries.

00:25:32.640 There is some terrorism in Nigeria.

00:25:34.420 Yeah.

00:25:36.120 Colombia is, there's some narco terrorists, but I think most of these people are not

00:25:39.900 fleeing persecution based on religion or race.

00:25:43.260 I think they're just here to get, to get free stuff, to have a better life and to get

00:25:51.080 social services.

00:25:52.200 And maybe those aren't even bad things, but I don't think these are refugees. 1.00

00:25:56.480 Not only is that not a controversial thing to say, Ezra, but that is a thing being said

00:26:00.280 by every single nonpartisan bureaucrat who ends up actually speaking about this issue,

00:26:05.180 everyone really other than Justin Trudeau and Gerald Butts.

00:26:10.100 Appearing before the Cornwall City Council, I think it was late last year, was a gentleman

00:26:13.700 who's director general for a refugee resettlement program for the federal government in the

00:26:18.760 Department of Overseas Refugees.

00:26:20.200 And he explained to Cornwall City councillors there, and he wasn't saying this as if he was

00:26:24.980 applauding it, but he was saying, guys, you've got to realize the new normal in Canada

00:26:28.660 is the European migration issues that they have there have come here, and that is what

00:26:34.040 we are effectively dealing with now.

00:26:36.200 And I thought, wow, that is wild to see a senior level bureaucrat actually sort of publicly

00:26:41.220 acknowledge that.

00:26:41.980 And that is the situation.

00:26:43.600 And the big challenge with all of this, Ezra, and a lot of people who want to engage in the

00:26:46.660 fact wars and say, oh, you've got to say irregular, it's mean to say illegal, et cetera, et

00:26:50.120 cetera.

00:26:50.200 The main challenge here, these are self-selected migrants. 1.00

00:26:53.980 We are not selecting them.

00:26:55.400 They are selecting them.

00:26:56.100 A certain percentage of them probably would be qualifying to come in legally to Canada.

00:27:00.560 I think it's a small percentage, but there is a percentage, but it's not up to them to

00:27:04.940 determine their legitimacy.

00:27:06.260 It's up to us.

00:27:07.000 It's that simple, very basic fact that a lot of people are missing here.

00:27:10.680 Yeah.

00:27:10.920 I mean, I don't think I would personally like to live in Turkey, but it's not, you know,

00:27:15.920 I mean, I wouldn't want to be a Kurd in Turkey. 1.00

00:27:19.020 But just for someone in Turkey to say, you know what, I'm going to Canada, someone in 0.99

00:27:22.220 Colombia, I'm going to Canada, that's not enough, but that seems to be enough.

00:27:27.160 I have one last question for you.

00:27:28.680 You are one of the only Canadian journalists writing about this global migration pact.

00:27:33.540 And what's interesting to me is it's a done deal.

00:27:36.340 Like the actual title of the document is Agreed Upon Outcome.

00:27:40.880 So it's already agreed.

00:27:42.160 I think it's just sort of a convention and a signing ceremony or anything.

00:27:46.300 I got a question for you.

00:27:47.940 Will this UN Global Compact for Migration, in your opinion, will it be a starter pistol

00:27:54.440 for more migration, for more programs, for more open borders?

00:27:59.300 Do you think it'll actually cause a change in policy on the ground in Canada?

00:28:03.920 Or is it just some symbolic thing that you'll see lots of press releases about, but no action

00:28:09.060 like the global warming conventions, like the Paris convention?

00:28:12.320 I mean, Catherine McKenna and Justin Trudeau talk a lot about it, but they don't actually

00:28:15.780 haven't met those targets.

00:28:17.620 Do you think this is going to cause our immigration in this country to go up to $450,000 a year?

00:28:23.400 Ezra, my favorite line in politics used to be that line I just said, which is there's

00:28:27.940 nothing more permanent than a pilot project.

00:28:29.660 My new favorite line is there's nothing less voluntary than non-binding agreements.

00:28:36.860 What this UN Migration Compact is, is a non-binding agreement.

00:28:40.560 So we're just all kind of voluntarily saying, sounds good, we're signing ourselves up.

00:28:44.620 You know that US-Paris climate deal scam thing, Ezra?

00:28:47.600 You know how that basically means we have a gun to our head for these, and we're facing

00:28:51.660 carbon taxes, and the little guys being hoes, and anytime you try and oppose it, everyone 0.99

00:28:56.380 tries to shut you down and so forth?

00:28:57.960 That is non-binding.

00:28:58.900 That is voluntary, even though it seems like people are going to be sent to the stockades

00:29:06.900 for not going along with it.

00:29:08.460 And I think we're in a very similar situation with this alleged non-binding deal.

00:29:12.680 And I think we've got to ask a lot of questions about it, because this is national federal

00:29:16.040 policy that may end up being dictated by the bureaucrats in the UN, who managed to be the

00:29:22.260 most influential people at the table.

00:29:24.060 Yeah, it's not the truth.

00:29:24.880 Well, very interesting, and thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:29:27.920 Folks, if you want to read the article, you can find it on the Toronto Sun.

00:29:30.660 The headline is, Illegal Border Processing Costs Alone to Exceed $1 Billion, PBO Report.

00:29:37.240 We've been talking with our friend Anthony Fury.

00:29:39.380 Great to have you on the show.

00:29:40.160 Thanks for your time.

00:29:41.380 Bye now, Ezra.

00:29:42.000 All right, bye-bye.

00:29:43.260 Well, isn't that worrying?

00:29:45.360 But I'm glad Anthony's fighting the good fight.

00:29:48.020 Stay with us.

00:29:48.660 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:29:49.340 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about Trudeau controlling news in the next

00:30:04.180 election.

00:30:04.800 Henry writes, the coming election is very much about Canada staying a free and democratic

00:30:09.140 state versus Trudeau's favorite form of government, Chinese communism.

00:30:14.220 Well, that's a pretty bold thing to say.

00:30:16.040 There's some truth to it, though, because, look, in the United States, their system is

00:30:20.540 built really with strong checks and balances.

00:30:23.260 You've got the executive, you've got the legislative, you've got the judiciary.

00:30:25.920 They're all at odds.

00:30:27.080 Individual senators or congressmen have a lot more latitude.

00:30:29.980 So even with a Barack Obama, who's an ideologue, or the left would say Trump is on the war path,

00:30:35.460 well, you have checks and balances.

00:30:36.620 I mean, just this month, Donald Trump lost control of the House of Representatives.

00:30:40.460 That's a check on his power for his entire term in office.

00:30:46.240 Justin Trudeau is unchecked.

00:30:48.540 He stacked the Senate.

00:30:50.220 He has an absolute majority in the House of Commons.

00:30:52.640 The courts were on his side anyways.

00:30:54.040 There's no confirmation of judges.

00:30:55.700 He's stacking the courts.

00:30:56.940 There's no check and balance.

00:30:58.120 So a prime minister with a bean is bonnet.

00:31:00.760 A prime minister with a zealous mission can do a lot more damage in Canada than a good

00:31:06.000 or bad zealot in the United States because we don't have the same checks and balances.

00:31:09.140 I'm not going to say we're going to go full China or full Cuba, but in four years, a prime 1.00

00:31:14.300 minister can do much more damage to Canada than a president can do to America.

00:31:19.440 On my interview with Giddy Mammon about the UN's global compact on migration, Ron writes,

00:31:24.540 I've watched Giddy for a couple of years, and no one can argue that he is not an expert

00:31:28.060 immigration lawyer.

00:31:29.440 This UN migration pact is a serious problem that could severely change the world's democracies. 0.94

00:31:35.780 I couldn't help but notice Giddy shaking his head when reading and interpreting many of

00:31:40.940 the new rules.

00:31:41.780 Trudeau has to be stopped.

00:31:44.500 Yeah, you know, I was looking at Giddy's credentials.

00:31:46.940 I mean, look, I know Giddy.

00:31:47.720 I've known him for years.

00:31:49.260 He's been an immigration and refugee lawyer for 30 years.

00:31:53.500 That's a long time.

00:31:54.680 He doesn't look that old, does he?

00:31:56.060 And he's actually certified by the law side of Africa Canada as an expert specialist in

00:32:02.080 immigration and refugee law, both.

00:32:05.020 There's only about a dozen or two guys like that.

00:32:08.200 So, I mean, he's practically a professor of it, if I may interpret that.

00:32:13.140 And like I always say, he loves immigration and refugees.

00:32:17.080 It's what he does.

00:32:18.340 His clients are immigrants and refugees.

00:32:21.440 It's all he does is he brings people into Canada.

00:32:23.740 So you can't say he's racist.

00:32:26.020 He's, I think he's Jewish from North African extraction.

00:32:30.240 So he's, I think he's a visible minority.

00:32:31.660 I've never asked him.

00:32:32.240 Um, so he's a minority himself.

00:32:34.780 I would say 95% of his clients are probably minorities.

00:32:39.320 He spent his whole life bringing people into Canada.

00:32:41.540 So no one could ever say, Giddy, you're a racist, bigot, anti-migrant.

00:32:46.380 Really?

00:32:46.720 He's brought more people to Canada than probably anyone else.

00:32:49.160 So when he says this system is insane, when he says this is broken, when he says this will

00:32:56.280 be lawless, you got to take him at his word.

00:32:58.760 That's my view.

00:33:00.460 That's my view.

00:33:02.280 All right.

00:33:02.500 Billy writes, I think tonight's show is the most frightening yet for our freedoms and

00:33:06.700 democracy.

00:33:08.200 Billy, I'm not sure which part of the show you're referring to.

00:33:10.220 I presume you're talking about the Global Compact for Migration.

00:33:14.760 And, uh, if you haven't read the document yet, you can find it, um, on our website.

00:33:20.920 You can, you can Google it in a second yourself.

00:33:22.660 But if you go to rebelun.com, I think you'll find it there.

00:33:24.980 I think he was there, uh, last night.

00:33:27.960 Uh, and that Global Compact for Migration, I talked about it today.

00:33:31.240 If you go to YouTube every, I don't know if you know this, every Friday at 12 noon, I

00:33:34.860 sit down for an hour and I just riff and I take live chat.

00:33:39.960 Uh, so I just have a live chat show.

00:33:42.500 I don't know if you know that.

00:33:43.440 Every, uh, Friday at 12 noon Eastern time, 10 a.m.

00:33:47.260 Mountain time.

00:33:47.900 If you're in the UK, that's 5 p.m.

00:33:49.840 Uh, UK time.

00:33:50.840 And, and we just went through it.

00:33:52.120 We went through 10 different passages in it.

00:33:53.800 And I took questions and, um, it, it hit me that this is not a technical legal document.

00:34:00.460 Yeah, there's some baffle gab and, and vague buzzwords in it, but anyone can figure out

00:34:04.620 what this means.

00:34:05.780 This means there is a new human right to migrate.

00:34:08.640 This means governments have to positively lobby for migration and positively stamp out 1.00

00:34:14.800 anti-immigration sentiments.

00:34:16.640 They specifically talk about school curriculums.

00:34:18.840 They specifically talk about the internet.

00:34:20.820 They specifically talk about the media.

00:34:22.400 So you don't have to be a lawyer or a diplomat or a bureaucrat expert to understand this.

00:34:27.660 So I encourage you to actually read the document.

00:34:30.520 You can find it on our website or somewhere else.

00:34:32.180 So yeah, it is bloody scary.

00:34:33.680 And the scariest part, and if you want to go to my YouTube show today, you can, uh, really

00:34:37.840 address this.

00:34:39.740 It's a done deal.

00:34:40.560 It's already done.

00:34:41.040 It's already signed.

00:34:44.620 Um, it's already agreed to at least.

00:34:46.140 I mean, there might be some signing ceremony in America, but it's already in the bag done.

00:34:51.160 So we're sending David Menzies and a videographer.

00:34:53.700 I'm pretty sure the UN will keep us out.

00:34:55.800 I mean, they keep Sheila Gunn-Reed out of the global warming conferences. 0.99

00:34:58.600 We send her anyways, because we think she can do even better reporting, uh, from the outside

00:35:03.600 than the other guys can do from the inside.

00:35:05.060 So we're going to send David and, uh, we'll, that's actually coming up in just what, nine

00:35:09.340 days or so.

00:35:11.560 Anyways, that's our report for today.

00:35:13.020 Yeah.

00:35:13.480 Yeah, it is.

00:35:14.560 Uh, we're going to talk more about that.

00:35:15.660 Go to rebelun.com if you want to see more on this.

00:35:19.960 Um, and we'll have a lot more to say, especially as David goes over there.

00:35:23.500 All right.

00:35:23.980 On that stressful note, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you at

00:35:28.220 home, good night.

00:35:29.500 Have a great weekend and keep fighting for freedom.

00:35:35.060 We'll be right back.

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