Rebel News Podcast - My plan to keep Rebel News alive — with your help

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today, I interview my old friend James Dellingpole from the United Kingdom talking

00:00:05.540 about how they're dealing with the coronavirus. I show a very interesting video of how someone on

00:00:13.220 the street of London is putting up that police do not cross style tape on the door of a chicken shop

00:00:20.600 while the store is still open. He's trying to shut them down. It raises some interesting questions.

00:00:25.960 Who's right in that situation? I talked to James about that. And I also tell you about a campaign

00:00:30.760 we have called Help Rebel News. And look, we're just trying to get through this economy like everyone

00:00:36.760 else. I think our tiny team of 16 people, we've got about five on air talent and 10 people behind the

00:00:45.420 scenes. We got to get through this economic slowdown because we've got to hold Trudeau to account.

00:00:51.340 And I've got a bit of a plan and it involves your help. So without further ado, here's today's podcast.

00:01:13.000 Tonight, hundreds of journalists are being laid off across Canada and Trudeau promises to pay off

00:01:19.200 the rest. So what are we going to do here at The Rebel? It's March 25th and this is the Ezra LeVance

00:01:25.080 show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know? There's 8,500

00:01:32.120 customers here and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have to say to the government

00:01:37.160 about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:41.100 Welcome back. It's very interesting news in this country. Very sad news. Very scary news. Nearly 1

00:01:53.840 million people have been laid off in the last week. That's a number that's so staggeringly large. It's

00:01:59.100 larger even than the 1920 stock market crash. Nothing like this before. The unemployment rate in this

00:02:05.980 country literally doubled in a week and we're nowhere near done yet. I see WestJet laying off

00:02:13.400 most of its staff here. Canada will do the same. That's just two companies. Imagine everyone else

00:02:19.120 in the travel industry, hotels, bars, restaurants, and then the snowball effect. Those people will have

00:02:25.520 trouble making their rents or mortgages and that will put landlords in trouble and the banks and

00:02:31.100 everything will spiral. One of the reasons why those newspapers laid off 250 people in the Atlantic

00:02:36.680 alone is because no one's buying ads. Just think of how big and bad this will get. Justin Trudeau made

00:02:43.300 a very strange announcement. He said his top priority, the first industry he's going to bail out,

00:02:49.920 not the oil industry, not the airlines, the first industry, he said the media. Take a listen.

00:02:56.680 Right now, it's more important than ever that Canadians have access to the latest news and

00:03:02.560 information. To ensure that journalists can continue to do this vital work, our government

00:03:07.840 is announcing new measures to support them. Now, why would he do that? Well, he needs to shore up the

00:03:14.920 media. He's doing a very poor job of fighting this coronavirus. As I showed you earlier, he actually sent

00:03:20.940 our entire stockpile of masks and gloves, 16 tons of it. He just sent it to China for free as foreign 1.00

00:03:30.380 aid just last month. Instead of ordering more for Canada, he gave it away. He refused to seal off the

00:03:37.780 borders until the last minute. He's still accepting flights from foreign countries. He's doing a very

00:03:42.740 poor job. And as you can see in this CBC article, he's musing about using your own cell phone to track

00:03:51.280 your movements, using the GPS in your phone to track where you are. The greatest surveillance state

00:03:57.820 since, well, China does it. No wonder Justin Trudeau wants another media bailout. Because if your boss

00:04:06.640 takes 5, 10, 20 million dollars from Justin Trudeau to run your newsroom, there's no way you're going

00:04:12.540 to criticize him. So where does that leave us here at Rebel News? Well, we face the same economy as

00:04:20.920 everyone else, but we would never take a dime from Justin Trudeau. So how are we going to make it through

00:04:28.260 this crisis? So far, everyone on our team is healthy and we're doing okay. We managed to cut some

00:04:33.720 expenses, but we've decided to have a small campaign to keep us strong because we believe

00:04:40.020 that coverage over the next few months could be the most important journalism we do. Without further

00:04:46.080 ado, let me show you a video I released earlier today that lays out our plan to deal with the

00:04:52.540 coronavirus here in the office. There's been no cases of it yet, but our measures in advance and how

00:04:59.780 we're going to make it through without laying off our journalists. We've set up a new website at

00:05:05.440 helprebelnews.com. Take a look at the video I released earlier today. How are you doing during

00:05:12.260 the coronavirus crisis? And can I share with you my own personal thoughts as a dad and as the boss of

00:05:19.820 Rebel News? But first, how are you? I'm guessing you're healthy. Believe it or not, as I record this,

00:05:26.280 the number of people in the whole of Canada who are sick is about 2,000. I know that's growing

00:05:32.140 quickly, but that's still only about one in 15,000 people with the sickness and 25 people have died.

00:05:40.080 Each of those deaths is a tragedy, but at this point, at least that number is fewer than one in

00:05:45.580 a million Canadians. I'm not downplaying it. I'm just saying so far, the bulk of the crisis hasn't

00:05:51.600 been measured in lost lives. It's been measured in how the rest of us, how the rest of our lives

00:05:57.240 have been changed. Last week alone, 929,000 Canadians lost their jobs. Entire industries

00:06:05.740 are teetering on bankruptcy. Think of airlines and hotels as an obvious example. Any place where

00:06:12.680 people gather together, theaters, bars and restaurants. And now most Canadian schoolchildren

00:06:18.560 are at home, but they really can't go on playdates. They can't go to daycare, so families have to stay 0.61

00:06:24.900 home to take care of them. I'm guessing the chief feeling you have is stress. Are we going to die

00:06:32.880 is one stress, but more and more, are we going to be okay to live to pay the rent or mortgage?

00:06:38.720 How can we find a job if the whole country is falling into recession? How are we going to get

00:06:43.240 through this? Are we going to go crazy, cooped up in our houses, unable to meet friends and family

00:06:49.720 and live normally? This is really a form of house arrest, isn't it? I feel the same way personally

00:06:55.840 for myself and for my family. I can only imagine the nightmares and stresses that little kids will have

00:07:03.140 now that they've learned about some invisible killer virus. It's so weird to hear young children

00:07:09.700 talk and use words like pandemics or coronavirus. I bet it's as stressful as the thought of nuclear

00:07:16.960 war was to baby boomers growing up. Unemployment, plus the stress and loneliness of quarantines,

00:07:25.160 plus the fear of the virus. And try getting tested, by the way, unless you're a celebrity or a politician,

00:07:31.200 you can't. They'll turn you away. Talk about stress. I'm sorry to be so dark, but I believe we are

00:07:36.140 going to see a spike in depression and worse. I'm sorry to say it. Can I share my thoughts as the

00:07:43.220 president of Rebel News? My first thought was the safety of our staff. We have a dozen loyal workers

00:07:49.860 who come in each day to our head office here. I've invited any of them who prefer to work from home

00:07:55.880 and about half our team in Toronto has chosen to do so, which is easy enough to do since almost

00:08:01.480 all of us work from laptop computers. The rest of the staff here at the office can social distance

00:08:07.140 in separate offices here if they like. In terms of guests, we now do that by Skype only in guest

00:08:14.060 interviews, and we're no longer sending our reporter to exotic locations. We've put our trips to the U.S.

00:08:20.900 and the U.K. on hold, and we've cut back on travel within Canada too. To stay in touch with each other

00:08:27.380 as a team, both to make sure we're working well together and just to say hi, we now have two daily

00:08:34.720 group calls on Skype with everybody. One at 10 a.m. to get the day really going, and one at 5 p.m. to

00:08:42.980 see how things went. We chime in about anything, and I limit myself to one dumb joke per meeting. 0.80

00:08:49.520 So I think we're okay health-wise here. Other than David Menzies, I'm by far the oldest guy in the 0.51

00:08:55.360 office. So everyone here is pretty much healthy young folks who are at low risk anyways. But how

00:09:02.720 are we going to do financially? 929,000 Canadians lost their jobs last week. It's almost a million.

00:09:12.360 That's almost one in 10 families in this whole country. Maybe you're one of them. Unemployment

00:09:20.200 just doubled from 5% to 10% in one week. I hate to say it, but I think much more is to come.

00:09:27.560 I think we're going to have a recession, and I think unemployment is going to hit 20% for sure,

00:09:32.940 maybe 30%. That's Great Depression levels. I don't want that to happen, but I think

00:09:37.920 we were heading into a recession already, especially with all the railroad blockades and Trudeau

00:09:43.760 canceling all the oil sands projects and pipelines. And now this. I can't even believe it. Incredibly,

00:09:53.000 just last week, Justin Trudeau made it easier for low-wage foreign workers to come to Canada. He made 0.99

00:10:00.160 it easier for foreign workers to come and compete for jobs. Why would he do that? I don't understand. 1.00

00:10:05.120 So I'm worried about the world, and I'm worried about our country, and I'm worried about you because

00:10:11.100 I'm human, and because unlike the CBC state broadcaster, we depend on our viewers to keep

00:10:17.380 us strong. So if our viewers are hurting, that will affect us directly. Parliament is giving itself

00:10:24.660 a raise next week. Did you know that? What, your local Conservative MP didn't tell you? So they'll be

00:10:31.880 fine in Parliament, and the CBC will be fine. And frankly, supporting Rebel News, although I think

00:10:38.860 it's important to the country, it's obviously not as important as paying your rent and groceries and gas

00:10:43.560 money. So I'm afraid there will be many families who make the choice to cut discretionary spending, like us.

00:10:50.540 Makes sense, family first. But I also know that what we're doing, providing independent journalism,

00:10:57.060 telling the other side of the story, as our motto says, is more important now than ever. And that's what we do.

00:11:03.000 Even in the past week, groundbreaking stuff. We've gone to the airports and asked people flying into Canada from China

00:11:11.200 and other countries what sort of screening they're getting. And we reported the truth, that they're not being screened

00:11:16.820 at all. And in fact, many people from other countries landing in Canada are shocked at how little screening is being

00:11:22.780 done. Still, Trudeau's government was lying when they said there was enhanced screening. There still isn't. We proved it.

00:11:30.000 Our journalism. And we went back to Roxham Road again and again and again to prove the same thing,

00:11:36.580 that illegal migrants were being allowed to walk right in with no health screening. 0.65

00:11:42.000 Where are you from?

00:11:43.500 The Congo?

00:11:46.000 In fact, it was only after Kian Bexty recorded this exclusive footage that the RCMP finally closed the border.

00:11:53.720 But what about now? I think it's more important than ever.

00:11:56.540 What civil liberties is Trudeau going to try to crush in the months ahead? Will he try and short circuit

00:12:02.220 parliament and take more powers to himself? He's hinting at it. And so is his cabinet.

00:12:07.900 Why would your government think it's a good idea to propose a bill to broadly tax and spend without

00:12:12.880 parliamentary approval until December 2021? Many opposition members say they can't support this

00:12:19.360 overreach. Why would you bring politics into a pandemic?

00:12:22.500 We recognize that this pandemic is moving extremely quickly and it is an exceptional situation that

00:12:29.260 requires extreme flexibility and rapidity of response by governments to be able to help

00:12:35.740 Canadians and react to a situation that we've seen is moving quickly every single day.

00:12:41.760 Government journalists from the CBC state broadcaster are practically begging him to put the country under

00:12:48.140 some sort of martial law.

00:12:49.900 Christian Noel, Radio Canada.

00:12:53.900 Is there a use of the telecom company data to do surveillance of those who should be isolated?

00:13:01.740 Are you doing this? And would it be worth violating people's privacy rights in this type of situation?

00:13:07.420 Answer? We realize that we are in a situation where the behaviors and the choices that we need to make

00:13:15.960 as a government will be different than what we would do in a normal situation, normal times.

00:13:25.220 If we here at Rebel News are not reporting the other side of the story, who will?

00:13:29.700 Or just reviewing day-to-day decisions of Trudeau, like his bizarre decision to send Canada's stockpile

00:13:36.680 of emergency face masks, 16 tons of protective gear. He sent it to China just last month for free.

00:13:44.180 Trudeau just sent all our protective equipment to China, so now our own nurses don't have protective gear. 1.00

00:13:49.860 It makes me want to fight to tell the other side of the story.

00:13:53.760 Trudeau has banned us from sending journalists to cover his daily briefings on the virus.

00:13:58.800 That's outrageous. A federal court has already told him that's illegal.

00:14:03.720 But he's obviously irritated that he can't control us like he controls the CBC.

00:14:08.580 We won't ask softball questions.

00:14:11.260 But look, we don't need to attend government press conferences to cover the news.

00:14:14.880 We go to where the news is, and we're often the only ones doing so.

00:14:18.260 David Menzies told me there wasn't a single other reporter at Roxham Road that day he was there.

00:14:23.940 The rest of the media love open borders.

00:14:26.080 So my point is, I want to keep Rebel News strong.

00:14:29.920 I don't want to have to lay off any staff.

00:14:34.160 I want our whole team in the battlefield covering stories, doing reports on the scene where possible,

00:14:39.880 and from our studios.

00:14:41.620 I want to do what the rest of the media won't.

00:14:43.420 I want to tell the other side of the story.

00:14:44.700 But I'm worried that our viewer base, like all of Canada, is going to be decimated by the coronavirus recession.

00:14:51.720 The Trudeau is already making worse.

00:14:53.700 We've started to cut costs.

00:14:56.300 We were going to hire a U.S. correspondent to help cover the election down there.

00:15:00.260 We've put that on hold.

00:15:01.640 We've managed to reduce some of our existing monthly costs by about $7,000 a month.

00:15:07.060 But there really wasn't a lot of fat to cut in the first place.

00:15:10.620 Trouble is, we've also lost important revenue streams.

00:15:14.840 For example, our fundraising cruise that was scheduled for this summer, that was canceled, obviously.

00:15:20.600 It's too dangerous to go on a cruise.

00:15:22.120 We used to have events across the country that helped make money for us.

00:15:27.360 Last year, we had 14 events.

00:15:30.140 Those are all on hold for this year.

00:15:32.500 So as a boss, I need to make up the gap.

00:15:36.300 I need to raise at least $70,000 to make sure we can keep our staff going full tilt.

00:15:41.480 That's how much I think we're going to lose in terms of revenues from viewers in the next 90 days.

00:15:49.220 If your family is in trouble, obviously take care of them first.

00:15:52.720 If you have someone you need to support, support them.

00:15:56.940 But if you're lucky enough to be in good shape, please consider helping us.

00:16:00.740 We've set up a crowdfunding website at helprebelnews.com.

00:16:06.780 If you can chip in $5 or $500, I'd sure appreciate it.

00:16:12.200 You know, just this afternoon, the biggest media company in Atlantic Canada, it's called Saltwire,

00:16:18.640 announced that it's shutting down all of its weekly newspapers, laying off 40% of its staff.

00:16:25.260 They're only going to publish four daily newspapers for the whole region.

00:16:28.820 They say their advertising has all dried up.

00:16:31.520 Of course it has.

00:16:32.220 That's true.

00:16:33.280 What's so gross is that they've received literally millions of dollars from Trudeau's media bailout.

00:16:39.840 But not us.

00:16:40.940 Never.

00:16:41.180 However, I don't want to lay off 40% of our people like Saltwire just did.

00:16:46.080 I don't want to lay off anybody.

00:16:48.440 We're too small.

00:16:49.640 We have to keep at it.

00:16:50.860 Everyone on the team, me and our other reporters, all our video editors, our website editors,

00:16:56.960 please help me keep our little army of 16 people, 12 here in the office, four around the country,

00:17:02.720 help me keep it together.

00:17:04.280 Most of our people do behind-the-scenes work that's important.

00:17:07.380 But research, access to information requests, editing videos, publishing the website.

00:17:14.060 Look, the CBC doesn't have to ask for help.

00:17:16.420 They just take your money. 0.72

00:17:17.560 Even though they shut down all their local TV broadcasts this past week,

00:17:21.380 they just take your money anyway. 0.66

00:17:22.660 Trudeau gives it to them.

00:17:24.600 All the newspapers are on Trudeau's bailout plan now, too.

00:17:27.660 That's why they're so submissive to him.

00:17:29.860 We don't need any more submissive journalists right now.

00:17:33.160 We need fighting journalists who care about freedom.

00:17:35.480 I hate the fact that Trudeau has banned Kian Bextie and David Menzies from his press conferences,

00:17:41.120 but I also know it's because they're the only two journalists he knows he can't control.

00:17:48.080 So please help me out if you can.

00:17:50.060 I promise I'll use the money to keep David and Kian and Sheila and our whole behind-the-scenes team going full tilt.

00:17:57.820 If you give us the tools, we'll finish the job.

00:18:01.820 Thank you, my friends.

00:18:03.040 Now stay safe.

00:18:03.800 Boris Johnson said this.

00:18:23.440 So when Boris Johnson says something, he means it.

00:18:27.300 Boris Johnson said this.

00:18:33.260 Boris Johnson said this.

00:18:35.160 You're not allowed.

00:18:37.460 You can't be serving food anymore.

00:18:41.120 Quarantine.

00:18:42.280 Finish.

00:18:43.320 Close.

00:18:44.680 Close now.

00:18:47.200 Quarantine. 1.00

00:18:48.360 Quarantine fucking teen. 1.00

00:18:50.500 Not, not teen porn. 1.00

00:18:54.140 Quarantine. 0.96

00:18:55.420 Finish.

00:18:56.460 Well, there you have it.

00:18:57.880 A scene from the United Kingdom.

00:18:59.860 I can sympathize with both sides of that.

00:19:02.760 On the one hand, the government said, lock everything down.

00:19:05.960 Quarantine.

00:19:06.680 And the man outside was clearly afraid.

00:19:08.900 And he wanted to be a good, law-abiding citizen in this panicky time.

00:19:13.860 On the other hand, inside are people making food.

00:19:17.120 Everybody's got to eat.

00:19:18.720 And we don't always eat at home.

00:19:21.080 Some people can't eat at home, don't have food at home.

00:19:24.100 Surely food is an essential service.

00:19:26.080 And even if it isn't, surely the people in that restaurant, working there, need to earn a living.

00:19:32.080 Well, who's right in that quarrel?

00:19:34.900 Well, let me read to you from an outstanding column in Breitbart.com from their UK division.

00:19:42.220 I'm just going to read a couple paragraphs.

00:19:44.180 I recommend you read the whole thing.

00:19:45.620 We'll put it up on the screen.

00:19:46.620 You can find it.

00:19:47.620 Let me read three paragraphs.

00:19:49.320 Here's my favorite part of this essay.

00:20:19.320 I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.

00:20:24.760 This contains the control freaks, the authoritarians, the snitches, the panickers, the killjoys,

00:20:30.940 the trusty experts, the curtain twitchers, the leftists, and the catastrophists.

00:20:36.600 The awkward squad.

00:20:38.560 This contains the liberty lovers, the libertines, the grand strategists, the rebels, the skeptics,

00:20:44.220 the mavericks, the contrarians, the misfits, the deplorables.

00:20:48.560 And it goes on from there.

00:20:49.780 It's a delightful read.

00:20:50.800 And the author is our friend James Dellingpoyle, who joins us now via Skype from North Hamptonshire.

00:20:58.540 James, it's great to see you again.

00:20:59.760 It's been a little while.

00:21:01.020 It was at one of Tommy Robinson's trials that I saw you last.

00:21:03.980 You work with Breitbart UK.

00:21:05.300 Great to have you on the show.

00:21:06.180 Ezra, it's great to speak to you again.

00:21:10.100 Isn't it weird how much the world has changed since we last saw each other?

00:21:14.100 I mean, it feels unreal, this world we used to live in, where you could actually congregate

00:21:18.440 in large numbers and wander around the streets without the police watching you and monitoring

00:21:23.980 your moves in case you were breaking the new regulations.

00:21:27.020 Yeah, and in Canada, and I'm sure it's the case in the UK because you're further down

00:21:32.740 the road to the surveillance state than we are, Justin Trudeau is now talking about using

00:21:38.480 cell phones to track people's movements, using the GPS on your phones to track you.

00:21:44.800 I'm absolutely sure they do that in the UK, but I'm also sure that the UK has not only

00:21:51.820 people who willfully choose to defy the government, but masses of ungovernable people, particularly

00:21:57.440 in London.

00:21:59.620 Yes, I worry about this greatly.

00:22:03.740 I worry very much that the cure for this problem is going to be far worse than the disease.

00:22:10.540 I think that at the end of this, we're going to find that we stopped coronavirus, but in

00:22:15.860 the process, we killed the patient.

00:22:18.220 And I'm so glad that President Trump gets this.

00:22:22.260 I mean, imagine if we had a leader of the free world.

00:22:24.860 Imagine if we had a Hillary or a Bernie or somebody like some crazed globalist who believes 1.00

00:22:30.580 in bigger government anyway.

00:22:32.020 At least Trump has got the right instincts that he wants to get back to business, to normal

00:22:37.560 life as quickly as possible.

00:22:38.980 I think for too many people, and I suspect that your President Bieber is very much one

00:22:43.900 of them, this will be the perfect opportunity to advance bigger government.

00:22:51.140 Yeah, you're right.

00:22:52.180 You know what, though?

00:22:53.140 The things that we rely on big government for, maintain the borders, keep out foreign 1.00

00:22:59.080 forces, including foreign viruses, protect law and order.

00:23:03.620 These are the things big government has failed us on.

00:23:05.780 And I just saw news from New York City that nearly 3,000 New York City police have called

00:23:13.420 in sick from the virus.

00:23:14.780 Now, some of them might not actually have it, but whether or not they have it, they're calling

00:23:20.440 in sick.

00:23:21.000 At what point does the government itself cease to be enforcing its own orders?

00:23:28.600 I mean, at what point do they cease to protect us from looters or actual real danger?

00:23:37.120 I don't know.

00:23:37.520 I saw that news about the NYPD and it made me scared.

00:23:42.640 Yeah, I think we have good reason to be worried about this.

00:23:48.000 I mean, look, I don't think any government anywhere in the world is in an enviable position

00:23:54.280 right now, because you've given a very good example of what's going on.

00:23:57.840 I had the coronavirus last month and it was, you know, unpleasant.

00:24:03.540 It was like not as bad as flu.

00:24:06.060 It didn't leave me bed bound.

00:24:08.120 But on the other hand, it made me feel quite rotten and irritable for a fortnight.

00:24:13.920 I got the fever.

00:24:15.100 I got the cough, which is still with me.

00:24:16.960 You know, it definitely reduces your functionality.

00:24:19.380 I think in most cases, if you're healthy, it's not going to do much worse than that.

00:24:23.840 But we've got government guidelines that if you show, well, I mean, before the complete

00:24:29.380 lockdown, if you had symptoms, then you were urged to self-isolate, which seems sensible

00:24:36.240 on the one hand, because it stops people going out, spreading the disease.

00:24:40.720 At the same time, if people are self-isolating and say you've got two cops, three cops living

00:24:47.300 in the same household or a bunch of medics sharing digs together, which is which is highly

00:24:53.100 likely, then what you have is if one person has got the illness, everyone else in the

00:24:58.820 house gets gets shut out of the out of out of work.

00:25:02.820 And so you're right.

00:25:03.680 You have a recipe for a kind of civil emergency over and above what's happening to the in the

00:25:09.980 case of the actual illness itself.

00:25:12.160 You know what?

00:25:12.760 I look to I mean, I don't know what to do.

00:25:15.040 Part of me thinks that we're overdoing it.

00:25:18.680 I look at the news out of Italy, which I think is more reliable than the news out of China

00:25:24.640 or Iran.

00:25:26.000 And they have lost lives.

00:25:29.360 But I see a glimmer of hope that young people are almost completely spared. 0.98

00:25:35.700 And I see there a possibility to maybe have a twofold strategy, take a very risk averse,

00:25:43.480 extreme approach to protect and help senior citizens who are in danger, but let young people

00:25:52.540 in some other manner go about their days.

00:25:54.740 I note that in Taiwan, they have not canceled school.

00:25:57.860 The kids go to school every day.

00:25:59.820 Every single one of them wears a mask.

00:26:01.620 I just have to think that the total shutdown of society that we saw in that little clip

00:26:06.880 of a man saying, you've got to shut down this chicken shop, Boris Johnson said, and the

00:26:12.120 guys inside saying, what?

00:26:13.600 I can see both sides of that, but you can't shut down everything for a while.

00:26:18.240 It's like holding your breath.

00:26:19.780 It only works for a short period of time.

00:26:23.560 Yeah, well, already we're starting to see the signs of really dire economic consequences

00:26:30.180 from this.

00:26:31.460 One of my Twitter friends, an old university friend, actually, who was at Balliol College,

00:26:37.560 Oxford, with Boris Johnson, our prime minister, he lives in Kenya. 1.00

00:26:42.380 And he pointed out that in Kenya, the people who grow the flowers for the Dutch flower markets

00:26:48.280 are being seriously affected.

00:26:51.120 The flower trade is closed down.

00:26:53.060 So there's a knock-on effect across the world.

00:26:56.220 I understand that the supply chain has been disrupted for all the foods that are grown

00:27:01.520 under glass, under plastic in the Netherlands and Spain, which feed Britain.

00:27:08.820 It's really getting worrying.

00:27:10.660 I mean, I don't understand the kind of...

00:27:14.140 It's all very well contracting out these decisions to the so-called medical experts.

00:27:19.440 And I don't think there is such a thing as a single medical expert who has access to all

00:27:24.740 the information and all the knowledge.

00:27:26.160 I mean, there are differing views even among the experts.

00:27:28.560 So which ones do we pick?

00:27:29.960 But I also think it's dangerous and irresponsible to give carte blanche to scientists to decide

00:27:39.840 how we deal with this pandemic when there are other issues at stake.

00:27:44.480 If people are going to die in civil unrest, if people are going to starve, which I think

00:27:49.900 is likely particularly in the developing world, then these are deaths and risks we ought to 1.00

00:27:55.720 consider alongside the issue of how dangerous this disease is and how many people it's going

00:28:02.100 to kill.

00:28:02.860 At the moment, it seems to me that we are destroying the world in order to save the lives of a few 0.93

00:28:08.300 people who are probably going to die quite soon anyway because they've got various comorbidities.

00:28:14.460 You know, it's not just coronavirus itself that kills you.

00:28:17.640 It's also...

00:28:18.220 It's the combination of coronavirus and your underlying health conditions and or your age.

00:28:23.900 Yeah, that's what seems to be coming out of Italy.

00:28:26.420 One of the reasons their numbers are so much higher is they report when it's coronavirus

00:28:31.520 and something else as opposed to just coronavirus on its own.

00:28:36.740 On the other hand, part of me worries.

00:28:39.120 I see news out of China.

00:28:40.400 I mean, China, we've seen their premier, Li Ka-xing, Li Ka-xing, sorry, basically say

00:28:47.700 we've got to stop lying about no new cases.

00:28:50.920 Earlier today in my daytime show, I showed video of a hospital in Wuhan refusing to admit

00:28:58.240 a coronavirus patient so they didn't have to break their record of no new coronavirus patients.

00:29:05.960 So they were literally turning away a man so they could claim with a straight face they don't

00:29:10.980 have any coronavirus patients.

00:29:12.740 So the premier of China is saying we've got to stop lying about this.

00:29:16.140 I've seen reports that the number of cell phone subscribers in China has plunged by millions.

00:29:23.060 Now, maybe there's another explanation, but people who died don't use cell phones anymore,

00:29:29.440 and that's in the millions.

00:29:31.220 That scares me, but the idea of another Great Depression scares me too.

00:29:36.480 I'm having trouble figuring this one out, and I have instincts on both sides of this. 1.00

00:29:42.060 I don't want foolish people, like we see videos, like here's a video right here of some idiot 1.00

00:29:48.340 licking a bunch of products in a Walmart. 1.00

00:29:51.720 He was arrested.

00:29:52.520 Here's another video of someone licking, with his tongue, licking a pole in a subway.

00:29:59.320 That's crazy.

00:30:00.580 So I want to, like those guys are a clear danger, a typhoid Mary, let's say.

00:30:05.620 But on the other hand, I don't want to give Justin Trudeau complete control over my life,

00:30:10.420 including knowing every one of my steps.

00:30:12.360 I want to figure this out, and I know a lot of our viewers do too.

00:30:16.040 And frankly, sometimes they look to me for some ideas on this, and I'm still looking for

00:30:20.780 the right balance myself.

00:30:24.080 Well, Ezra, I think actually, and this is why I'm voting for you as my new president,

00:30:29.960 you actually came up with a very good suggestion.

00:30:35.000 I think that it's, I think we, a sensible solution is to keep vulnerable groups isolated, even 1.00

00:30:45.920 though this is very annoying for them.

00:30:47.180 I mean, you know, my mum, for example, she's in an at-risk category.

00:30:51.180 She can't go out and play golf anymore, and golf is her life.

00:30:54.340 You know, she's chipped up in her house, and that's miserable for her. 1.00

00:30:58.100 And at the same time, I think that we cannot let the global economy collapse, as it is collapsing,

00:31:05.180 and it's going to get much, much worse.

00:31:06.900 I mean, we're already reaping a whole whirlwind here.

00:31:10.180 I can't imagine how much worse it's going to get.

00:31:14.060 We need to get people back on the streets.

00:31:17.480 And I think one of the ways we can do this is by, OK, on the one hand, protecting the

00:31:23.640 vulnerable categories.

00:31:24.720 But number two, by enabling people who've already had the disease, people like me, who've built

00:31:31.600 up antibodies to get back out there.

00:31:34.340 So what we need is an antibody test.

00:31:38.040 And we need governments to move swiftly to say, if you have got the antibodies, if you've

00:31:44.100 got a degree of immunity, I know people say, oh, well, you can get reinfected.

00:31:48.900 Well, maybe.

00:31:49.480 But if we take that one too seriously, then it is the end of the world.

00:31:52.260 I mean, if you get no immunity from having had the disease, then we are in a whole new

00:31:57.880 realm of horribleness.

00:31:59.040 But I think we have to assume that people who've had the coronavirus probably have a

00:32:04.780 degree of immunity.

00:32:06.000 Those people should not be at home.

00:32:08.060 They should be back on the streets.

00:32:09.260 So I think government's priority should be to get people tested and get them out.

00:32:13.600 Another thing I've got.

00:32:15.360 I do believe that chloroquine is proving effective.

00:32:18.060 I know somebody who's been desperate to try and get his his his treatment out.

00:32:23.780 It involves zinc, which is a very powerful prophylactic, and it disrupts the the cytokine

00:32:31.120 storm, which is what kills you when the the virus tricks your body's immune system into

00:32:36.220 attacking healthy tissue and causing you to drown in your own lungs effectively.

00:32:41.400 If we can avoid that, if we can protect workers with with with treatments like this as a prophylactic

00:32:46.840 and stop people dying, then we are in a completely different situation.

00:32:51.640 I think government's ought to be more alive to this rather than the focusing on on the

00:32:56.600 vaccine and focusing on the death toll of hospitals.

00:32:59.120 It's it's bigger than that.

00:33:00.700 Yeah.

00:33:01.040 You know, I went through the other day statistics again from Italy.

00:33:05.420 And the reason I focus on that is because I don't trust Iran. 0.99

00:33:08.380 I don't trust China.

00:33:09.260 And we don't yet have enough data from the UK, Canada or the US in Italy, which has been

00:33:16.180 ravaged.

00:33:17.160 There were zero deaths for people under 30.

00:33:21.120 Zero.

00:33:22.180 Zero.

00:33:23.220 Yeah.

00:33:24.380 Taiwan.

00:33:25.160 By the way.

00:33:26.560 Go ahead.

00:33:29.620 People. 0.72

00:33:30.640 I've had sort of angry lunatics on on Twitter today say. 0.53

00:33:34.800 Say, you know, if we don't don't stamp on this, it will be like the Spanish flu. 1.00

00:33:38.940 This is nothing like the Spanish flu of 1918.

00:33:41.780 For one thing, the Spanish flu of 1918 killed predominantly people in their 20s and 30s.

00:33:48.360 It generally spared the old people. 1.00

00:33:50.580 This is a completely different different kettle of fish.

00:33:53.620 It kills older people. 1.00

00:33:55.140 It's not the same. 0.82

00:33:56.440 I think it would be far worse if it were killing young, productive people.

00:33:59.480 It is not.

00:34:00.400 So you carry on with your point now.

00:34:01.720 Yeah, well, I mean, my point to that is that that allows us instead, I mean, I think the

00:34:07.860 problem is we've smothered everything.

00:34:10.400 I mean, in that little dramatic video I showed at the beginning, there was a guy around 40

00:34:16.600 hectoring guys around 20.

00:34:19.460 And in reality, probably none of them are in jeopardy, but one of them is clearly in a

00:34:26.240 panic mode.

00:34:27.440 And the guys inside are thinking, am I doing something wrong?

00:34:30.960 Am I breaking the law?

00:34:31.820 I thought I was doing the right thing by working for a living.

00:34:34.840 And surely my customers need to eat.

00:34:38.200 So if we could if we could sort things and break this problem down smaller, I say again,

00:34:46.360 Taiwan, everyone wears a mask.

00:34:48.040 They ration the masks from the local pharmacies.

00:34:51.980 They keep track of how many.

00:34:53.000 It seems absurd, but that way everyone has a mask.

00:34:55.680 There's no hoarding.

00:34:57.080 Mass testing is important.

00:34:58.680 If you've had it and you're immune, why shouldn't you be able to go out and about?

00:35:03.040 And if we have mass testing, again, sorting, shrinking the problem and focusing on seniors.

00:35:09.580 I know what you meant about it would be more devastating if people who are working are

00:35:15.160 incapacitated or killed.

00:35:17.540 We still obviously love our parents and grandparents very much.

00:35:22.100 Let us focus our intelligence and our wealth and our activities on protecting the vulnerable.

00:35:29.760 Let the rest of people work.

00:35:31.800 Get up and guard against power grabs by the Justin Trudeaus and others in this world who

00:35:38.500 either want to take money in this panicky time, take power, take away our civil liberties.

00:35:44.160 Maybe that's part of the answer.

00:35:45.440 It's interesting that the solution seems to come from Taiwan, which knows the dire threat 1.00

00:35:51.520 of communist China just a few dozen miles away.

00:35:54.280 Yes, I entirely agree with that analysis, Ezra.

00:36:00.500 I mean, look, those of us who are sceptical of overweening authority, we still love our parents

00:36:10.500 and our elderly relatives as much as anyone on the other side of the argument.

00:36:15.300 The difference is that we are not letting that love for our parents blind us to the bigger

00:36:21.620 reality, which is that we are destroying Western civilisation for the sake of saving a few people

00:36:30.180 who are probably going to die anyway.

00:36:31.840 I mean, this is a pandemic.

00:36:33.820 People die in pandemics.

00:36:35.320 It doesn't mean one doesn't regret their deaths.

00:36:37.280 It doesn't mean one doesn't get upset by health authorities being temporarily overwhelmed.

00:36:43.240 But this pandemic will pass.

00:36:45.260 And at the end of it, we want an economy left for us to enjoy and to save more lives.

00:36:51.740 I mean, people will die as a result of the resources being misdirected at the moment.

00:36:58.300 You know, cancer patients currently can't get treatment in hospitals because all the beds

00:37:02.860 are being taken up by coronavirus victims.

00:37:05.400 You know, there are consequences to this panic.

00:37:09.580 Yeah, there's trade-offs.

00:37:10.520 There's unforeseen consequences.

00:37:13.360 I just know that from a mental health point of view, you coop up millions of people in tiny

00:37:18.700 urban apartments and condos with no physical exercise, no fresh air, no socialisation.

00:37:24.620 You're going to have a whole other series of problems emanating.

00:37:28.300 In short order, especially when you add the terror of not being able to pay bills, which

00:37:33.960 is just weeks away.

00:37:35.420 James, it's great to talk with you again.

00:37:37.080 It's really nice to connect with you.

00:37:38.380 I didn't know you had the coronavirus.

00:37:40.400 The fact that you seem to be healthy and recovered is encouraging to me.

00:37:45.640 Tell our viewers where they could get more of your content.

00:37:48.660 I know, you know, you do a podcast.

00:37:51.460 Tell us where people find that.

00:37:53.600 I do.

00:37:56.660 In all modesty, Ezra, I think I probably do just about the best podcast in the world.

00:38:01.540 It's called The Delling Pod.

00:38:03.440 That's D-E-L-I-N-G-P-O-D. 1.00

00:38:07.180 And you can find it on the usual places, on iTunes and on PodBeans.

00:38:11.120 I have a site called DellingPollWorld.com, where all my old podcasts are advertised.

00:38:17.860 You can read me at Breitbart and The Spectator.

00:38:21.200 And I mean, these are interesting times to be a journalist.

00:38:24.020 I think you'll agree.

00:38:25.020 It's a target-rich environment.

00:38:27.240 And I'm trying to do my bit to inject a degree of sense into this crazy debate.

00:38:32.780 Well, I'm really glad you joined us and shared your views.

00:38:37.100 And just looking out your back window there in Northamptonshire, it looks just delightful.

00:38:42.340 Hopefully, international travel will resume and I'll be able to pay you a visit in your

00:38:46.880 lovely land again.

00:38:48.860 Thanks for taking the time, my friend.

00:38:52.160 Thanks, Ezra.

00:38:53.000 Thanks a lot.

00:38:53.600 And good luck, Canada.

00:38:54.760 Thank you.

00:38:55.360 We need it.

00:38:55.860 There you have it.

00:38:56.400 Our friend James Dellingpole, host of the DellingPod podcast.

00:38:59.800 And I have to say, I have actually appeared on the podcast one time and I enjoyed the

00:39:04.660 conversation very much.

00:39:05.800 Feel free to check out James there.

00:39:07.580 Stay with us.

00:39:08.240 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:39:17.980 Hey, welcome back.

00:39:18.980 On my monologue yesterday, comparing how Trudeau and Trump have handled the Chinese coronavirus

00:39:23.380 crisis, Cody writes, our frontline staff, as well as other Canadians, will go without medical

00:39:28.080 gear because Trudeau prioritizes China over Canada.

00:39:31.460 Anyone who cannot see that is blind. 0.82

00:39:33.560 Well, it's already happening.

00:39:35.760 It's just unbelievable.

00:39:37.280 And to send it to China, that's like someone voluntarily giving their lunch money to a bully.

00:39:43.860 You're supposed to give it only reluctantly to the bully or refuse to give it to the bully.

00:39:48.280 You don't run to the bully and say, here's my lunch money, especially not when you're starving.

00:39:53.300 China has been bullying Canada and that's even too light a word for it. 0.93

00:39:56.740 Not only have they infected Canada with the virus, but they still hold our two hostages. 0.62

00:40:01.100 And Trudeau gives them our stockpile.

00:40:05.300 Bruce writes, you're so right about Trudeau not knowing how to deal with the virus as well

00:40:09.640 as other government duties.

00:40:11.080 He's Canada's Peter Pan. 0.78

00:40:12.880 He's never done anything.

00:40:14.540 He's never had to change the world in a meaningful way.

00:40:17.620 He just gives speeches and selfies and things happen or they don't happen.

00:40:21.460 No consequences.

00:40:22.700 This is real life.

00:40:23.760 The virus doesn't respond to his sexy voice or his beard or his selfies.

00:40:28.920 It responds to action.

00:40:29.980 He just doesn't know what to do.

00:40:32.440 On my interview with Jim Carahalios, Kevin writes, excellent, excellent interview with

00:40:36.720 Jim Carahalios.

00:40:37.620 Thank you.

00:40:39.900 I just don't understand why the Conservative Party of Canada would do this at all.

00:40:44.820 Even if they disagree with Jim Carahalios' point of view.

00:40:49.480 And I read the letter in question.

00:40:50.780 I didn't think it was particularly rambunctious.

00:40:53.240 Why not just let the party members vote for or against him?

00:40:57.780 I like Jim Carahalios, but I don't think he's going to win.

00:41:00.940 I just don't think he has the horsepower on the team.

00:41:04.120 Peter McKay, well-known household name.

00:41:06.920 Aaron O'Toole came in third in the last leadership race.

00:41:09.600 Pretty sure one of those two guys is going to win.

00:41:11.480 I'm not thrilled about either case, but why would you break the rules, kick out a guy

00:41:17.820 in a secret hearing?

00:41:19.580 It's just so very strange.

00:41:22.380 It's almost like they didn't even bother to Google who Jim Carahalios was, a guy who

00:41:27.140 fought and beat that same shenanigans from the Provincial Party of Ontario.

00:41:33.500 Worse than that, though, I think it demoralizes Conservative Party members who say, oh, so there's

00:41:38.320 certain points of view you won't allow.

00:41:39.780 They kicked out a pro-life traditional family candidate named DeCarrie.

00:41:45.200 Now they're kicking out an anti-carbon tax, anti-Sharia candidate named Carahalios.

00:41:49.780 So the party is deciding that it doesn't want a big coalition, a big tent for the next election.

00:41:55.580 Good luck winning with that.

00:41:57.040 Good luck inspiring the base with that.

00:41:59.040 It's very, very strange.

00:42:00.720 It doesn't even make sense.

00:42:02.360 And now, of course, they're going to buy themselves a lawsuit and all the bad publicity. 0.99

00:42:05.700 Just dumb and very depressing because we actually need an opposition party right now. 0.96

00:42:11.080 And I don't think we're seeing it from the Conservatives. 0.99

00:42:14.240 What a shame.

00:42:15.200 Oh, well, we'll keep doing our job.

00:42:16.700 We'll do the best we can.

00:42:18.100 We'll play it straight.

00:42:19.200 We'll report it as both the shenanigans of the Conservatives and the Liberals.

00:42:23.840 And, you know, the media party, which is being bought off yet again.

00:42:28.600 I'll see you tomorrow.

00:42:29.920 Until then, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, stay safe and keep fighting for freedom.

00:42:35.420 We'll be right back.

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