NEW! StopDeplatforming.com： Fight for free speech
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I ve got a new idea, and it s a legal idea, to sue the bullies who bullied the theatre owner to deplatform us. There s an old tort called Inducement to Breach a Contract, and I ll explain it in this episode.
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Hello, my friends. Today, I, with the passage of a few days' time,
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think about and describe and explain my plan to fight against de-platforming. I think I've got
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the idea. I think I've got the idea. It's a legal idea, and it's to sue the bullies
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who bullied the theater owner to de-platform us. There's an old tort called inducement to
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breach a contract. I'll explain it in this. I'm not going to get too legalistic. Don't worry. I
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won't be dropping a lot of fancy pants in law. I'll read a little explanation of a case that's
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very interesting, where this law came from about 150 years ago. And I'll tell you my plans to apply
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the law today. Anyways, I hope you like it. Can I encourage you to become a premium subscriber
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video versions of these podcasts, plus Sheila Gunn-Reed's show and David Menzies' show.
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And you help us fight the good fight. All right, here's the podcast.
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Tonight, I'm officially launching my new project,
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StopDeplatforming.com. It's time to fight back for free speech. It's October 14th,
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody right
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Last week started with a great win for media freedom. Justin Trudeau's hand-picked election
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debates commission in collusion with the government-funded parliamentary press gallery
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had rejected the accreditation requests of two rebel journalists, Kean Bextie and David Menzies,
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and our friend Andrew Lawton from True North. They rejected us at the last possible moment on the
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Friday. And of course, the debate was on Monday. So we went to court on Monday morning to seek an
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emergency injunction. Trudeau sent five government lawyers to oppose our emergency application.
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But miracle of miracles, we won. Justice Russell Zinn issued a court order directing Trudeau's staff
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to accredit the three journalists. And boy, did they ever do a great job. You could see the
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politicians of every party hadn't faced such tough questions on the campaign trail in a long
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time. But the meanest reaction was from rival journalists, especially from Trudeau's CBC
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state broadcaster. They hated everything about Kean and David and Andrew being there. They hated the
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fact that conservative-leaning journalists even exist, that they were allowed into this debate,
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And that every network in the country that was running the debates live actually broadcast the
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questions. Boy, those rival journalists were steaming mad now. I don't care if they're mad at
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us. Frankly, we're frequently mad at them. It's your civil right to be mad at journalists or politicians.
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I recommend it, in fact. And you can ignore journalists you don't like, or you can challenge
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them or rebut them or do a better job than them, whatever. Not quite, because you can't quite
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ignore the CBC stuff to pay for it out of your taxes, I guess. And no, the problem wasn't that
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our rivals have a rivalry with us. It's that without the court order, we wouldn't have even
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been allowed into the process, not even allowed into the building. As I showed you last week,
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Trudeau's commission accredited foreigners, including from the state broadcaster of the OPEC
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dictatorship, Al Jazeera. So they let anyone in except us. They didn't want to even let us share a
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national platform with them. That word platform. A platform is what it sounds like. It could be a
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stage, for example. It could also be a website. Facebook, Twitter, those are called platforms.
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The difference between a platform and a publisher is that a platform is just a neutral canvas upon
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which anyone can paint anything. It's like a bulletin board. You can tack a notice to it.
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There's really no editor. A publisher, as opposed to a platform, a publisher creates or edits or
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curates content, takes a point of view, chooses, makes decisions about what's good and what's bad.
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So a newspaper is a publisher. A payphone is a platform. It doesn't determine what you can say
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or not into the phone. It's neutral. That's sort of obvious, but deplatforming is the tactic
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of the new authoritarian left to ban you from even once neutral places where you used to have the right
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to go. You can't really expect a local newspaper to run your letter to the editor if they don't want
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to. I mean, they might have a journalistic or a legal reason why they should, but at the end of
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the day, it's a private publication that gets to choose what they put in it. By contrast, you can
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assume that you're allowed to say whatever you like when you pick up a phone at a phone booth.
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But deplatforming is the radical idea that, no, you can't. Now, nothing is neutral. Nothing is public.
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Everything can be blocked or banned if you don't think correctly. It's radical in itself, and it's
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corrosive, and then it's a substitute for the normal way. We have disagreed with each other
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in the past. No need to debate anyone on a platform like before. Now, just remove the platform
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from them, and they're gone. I know that there was an all-candidates debate recently in the election,
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but the PPC candidate was banned from participating because the mosque that was hosting the debate said
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the party was beyond the pale, beyond even debating. What's the purpose of a debate if not
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to debate, though? Why bother having a debate if you've already decided without a debate by ruling
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one party out? Now, I note that the PPC candidate in question is Muslim himself, our friend Salim
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Mansour. That's deplatforming. It's un-Canadian, by the way. I'm not saying every single debate forum
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has to have every single candidate on it. Sometimes you have 20 people running for mayor, for example,
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but you can see the trend. And now that the leaders' debates are over, I'm certain that we will go right
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back to being deplatformed by our fellow journalists and by all the parties. I should point out it was at an
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Andrew Scheer event, not a liberal event that David Menzies was handcuffed. I see the gray area with the mosque
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forum. I mean, it was their own mosque, I guess. I don't see the gray area with a national debate run by the
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government. But the deplatforming that happened to me on Thursday at Edmonton's Princess Theatre was the clearest of all
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cases. There wasn't any wiggle room there, no gray area there. I had a contract with the theatre. It was a done deal. I had paid
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the full fee in advance. The analogy here isn't even a bulletin board or some public park. It was a
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contract for money between me and the theatre owner. We had done it before with great success a couple of
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years ago. I know the owner. He liked doing business with us. So we had a contract. That's not us just
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hopping up in a town square on a fruit box and yapping. That's a contract. And yet he breached the
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contract. I don't propose to rehearse how it all went down. I told some of the story last week on YouTube.
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Basically, the owner, who himself is an immigrant to Canada from India, his name is Mike Brar. He told
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me he was starting to get threats and pressure from NDP activists in Edmonton, and not just from
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nobodies. The former NDP MLA, Jessica Littlewood, was pressuring the theatre to cancel us and said no
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one should rent to us. There was an activist from Progress Alberta, Rachel Notley's pressure group,
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doing the same thing. These are official people with high stations in public life. There's a professor
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that was doing the same thing. There was a hairdresser. A whole whack of people from every
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walk of life were pressuring this poor businessman. I talked with him on the phone, and he said he was
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getting so many hostile phone calls, he couldn't sleep at night. He was so terrified, worried, scared.
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So we cancelled him. By cancelled, I mean he breached his contract to me. He kept the doors locked.
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I told him he didn't need to worry. We hired a private security team to make sure
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no ruffians came, and no ruffians did come. There was all those really tough Antifa losers
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who were really butch online. None of them bothered to show up. Just one crank,
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known around Edmonton as Rickshaw Dave, really the village idiot. 200 supporters came, and one kook.
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There literally was nothing to be afraid of. And even if there was, I had worked with police,
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and they had a big presence right there. So I wasn't just deplatformed as in denied a platform in the
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first place. I mean, I respect Mike Baragher's right to have said to me in the first place,
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we don't want to rent to you to begin with. I think I would respect that. At least I'm
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not sure if that violates my civil rights in some way. I'd have to think about it more. But
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I guess had he said that at the beginning, at least I wouldn't have spent time and money
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advertising and promoting that venue and buying a plane ticket there and getting all my friends to
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show up there. Had he just said no in the first place, but he didn't say no. He said yes.
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And I paid him a lot of money. And we even had a discussion about freedom of speech,
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and he agreed to protect mine. But he didn't. He breached his contract to me,
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so I have a legal remedy against him. I can sue him for any damages, but I can also sue
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the people who pressured him to break his contract. I found this summary of the law on the website of
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a Canadian law firm called Lawson Lundell out of BC. It's sort of a, you know, law for beginners
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kind of publication. Let me quote it to you, okay? I think it's very good.
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Although the tort of inducing breach of contract is rooted in medieval law of master and servant,
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the modern version stems from the 1853 House of Lords case, Lumley v. Guy. In Lumley,
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the plaintiff had a contract with an opera singer, Miss Wagner, to sing exclusively at his theater.
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The defendant, who wanted to showcase Miss Wagner's talents at his own theater,
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and for his own benefit, persuaded Miss Wagner to break her contract with the plaintiff
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and sing exclusively for him. The plaintiff took action against the defendant,
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and although the defendant was not a party to the contract, he was found liable.
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That's what inducing a breach of contract is usually about. Someone tries to steal someone away.
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A professional athlete, a top executive, a brilliant scientist, a record label stealing a
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musician away from a rival record label. But it absolutely would apply to my case, too,
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even though it's not like the bullies who bullied Mike Brar got any economic benefit out of it.
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They didn't steal the theater away for their own show, for example.
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They were just being malicious. In my mind, that actually makes it worse. They were just being
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purely destructive. It's not like they were even trying to do something better than me. They were
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just trying to destroy my event by bullying my business partner, Mr. Brar.
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That's what he was. That's what the theater was. So I met with our Edmonton lawyers, and we came up
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with a plan. We're just going to sue everyone, everyone who was dumb enough to reveal themselves as a
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bully, bullying Mike Brar to breach the contract. So those who were the most cowardly, who made
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anonymous threats to Mike Brar, the scarum, I'll probably never catch them, but Jessica Littlewood,
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Professor Lavelle, all the other people who worked for Notley, you bet I got their names,
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because they're under some weird impression that they can harm businesses like ours and like Mike
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Brar's just because they're more noble in their minds. But they're not more noble. It's not noble
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to stop a book launch. That's like a form of book burning, right? It's really gross. And it did dawn
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on me that Mike Brar is a minority immigrant. I'm Jewish, and my book is being metaphorically burned.
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I think that's not a good look on the NDB. If a judge would be appalled by one opera company
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stealing a singer from another opera company for profit, I can only imagine that a judge would be
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appalled by someone wrecking a book launch just out of censorship and spite. That's so contrary to
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the public interest, it hardly needs to be argued. But that is my plan. Ironically, the fact that I had
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a platform and it was taken away is precisely what gives me the legal standing to sue all of these
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harassers for the damages they cause. And I plan to sue every single one because I truly believe it's just
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a small number of bullies who have never been stood up to before, ever. I doubt there are 50 people in
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all of Edmonton, a city of a million, who behave this way. 50 people are enough, though, to make a
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city of a million unfree, at least when it comes to books or political events. That's a kind of tyranny.
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I'm not about to be tyrannized or bullied. They need to be taught what they did was wrong and that they
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can't do it with impunity. I believe that by suing these people, 10, 20, 50 of them, whatever,
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they'll get a real education about right and wrong that they never got from their mama.
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I believe they won't be so quick to deplatform anyone again, certainly not me. And I believe
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that it will serve as a larger deterrent to this awful authoritarian practice of deplatforming.
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I don't think this approach could work, say, for Salim Mansour in that mosque because
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he didn't have a contract with them that was breached. But it would sure work with someone who tried
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to have a conference and had a contract, but bullies had that conference canceled. Well,
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not if they just tried, if the conference was actually canceled. So I'm excited about this.
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It was a bad thing that was done to me, but it's a great way to fight back by using the law. It's a
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teachable moment and it's a moment of counter-revolution. For a decade, we've seen the
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speedy infringement of our freedom of speech. I think this is a way to fight back.
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I'm setting up a website at StopDeplatforming.com. It's just very basic for now. But over the weeks
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and months ahead, you'll see more. And it's where we'll post all of our news about the lawsuit. And
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of course, we'll post the lawsuit itself. And it won't surprise you to hear, we need your help to
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pay for this. I don't think we'll win much in the lawsuit in terms of damages. It'll surely cost us
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many times that in terms of legal fees. But this isn't about money. It's about stopping the bullies
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one at a time or 50 at a time and standing up for platforms for everyone, even people with whom we
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disagree. If you can help chip in, please do at StopDeplatforming.com. And if you hear of anyone
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else who has a contract with a restaurant or a bar or a theater or a convention center,
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and that contract was breached because bullies bullied a venue owner, let me know.
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I'd love to see lawsuits like this everywhere. Stay with us for more.
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Welcome back. Well, things are exciting up here in Canada. We're less than two weeks away
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to the federal election. Who knows how it's going to go? I have credible sources,
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friends with access to party polling who say it could go a liberal win. Some people say it will go
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a conservative win. Some people say it'll be a coalition. I have no idea how it's going to end
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up. But we're not the only people in the world with politics. Our friends in the United States do
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because, of course, their 2020 election campaign is in full tilt. President Trump went to Minnesota,
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home of, amongst others, Ilhan Omar, for a big old rally. Huge turnout. But it so often happens
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when the local mayor and constabulary are Democrats. Well, they let Antifa rioters have their way.
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Check out this shocking footage. I don't see a cop in sight here. Just wrecking stuff, burning stuff,
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assaulting people. This is not just condoned. This is positively the street teams. There's the
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hammer and sickle there. Yeah, that's what it was like in Minnesota. Joining us now to talk about
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the excitement in Minnesota, but also what's going on in Congress with the impeachment drive,
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is our friend Joel Pollack, senior editor at large at Breitbart.com. Joel, great to see you.
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Great to see you, too. You know, I remember when Donald Trump had a few election rallies. I think
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he had a big one in Chicago. I'm thinking back to the year 2016, if I'm remembering my cities right.
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And the whole place devolved into a massive riot. Same thing when he went to California.
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When the Democrats control the police, they like riots, don't they?
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Well, there are some more interesting details. Your memory is pretty good. What happened in Chicago
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was that left wing protesters crashed the venue for the rally and infiltrated the stadium where
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it was supposed to happen. And so the rally had to be called off because of poor security by local
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police. And they blamed Trump. The local authorities blamed Trump, saying it was his fault that all
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these rioters had shown up. And to their great discredit, some of his Republican rivals also said
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that Trump had caused this. It was really a turning point because I think there are some conservatives
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who were on the fence about Trump and might have preferred Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio, who saw that
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Trump's rivals were basically trashing free speech and said, you know what? They've had it with
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these other conservative rivals. They're sticking with Trump. It was really an important watershed
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moment in the internal debate among conservatives in the United States. A couple of months later,
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Trump came to California before the California primary, which was supposed to be the scene of the
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final battle between Trump and Ted Cruz. Although Ted Cruz lost Indiana a week or two before, which meant
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that he left the race. So California was not as competitive as it ought to have been or could
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have been. But Trump came to California anyway, and he had a large rally in San Jose. And I was there,
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actually. I covered the rally. And the police decided not to hang around the venue itself. They set up
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a perimeter around the venue. What they allowed to happen by doing so was they allowed rioters,
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anti-Trump rioters to harass and attack, physically attack Trump supporters as they were leaving the
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venue. I personally witnessed the anti-Trump rioters burning an American flag and shouting radical slogans
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and things like that. Other people standing at other parts of the complex witnessed Trump supporters
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being hit with bottles, being chased. People in the parking lot were chased. Their cars were attacked.
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Some of this happened in full view of the media. There was a woman in a Trump football jersey who
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was pelted with eggs in front of television cameras. And so this was something the mainstream
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media couldn't ignore because they were filming it. And the mayor, Sam Liccardo, who's a bit of a failure
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because San Jose has a massive pension problem and he couldn't even manage a flood. One of the rivers
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near his city basically overflowed its banks a few months later and caused toxic flooding in the city.
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And he did not provide adequate warning to residents. So he's not a very good mayor,
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although being a Democrat, he got elected anyway. But Mayor Sam Liccardo blamed Trump
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for the riot instead of taking responsibility for the poor deployment of his police force,
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which had been told to stand back from the rioters. So we are now back in that space.
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Minneapolis is run by a guy named Jacob Frye, who's a first term left wing mayor. And he declared
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Thursday love Trump's hate day. He opposed Trump having a rally in Minneapolis and initially the
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target center, which is the venue Trump was going to have the rally in, they wanted to charge Trump
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more than half a million dollars for additional security. Trump pointed out that Obama had never
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had to have that kind of security when he was president. And eventually they backed down.
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But what happened after the rally, the rally itself was very peaceful and law enforcement responded
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very quickly to protesters in the arena and that sort of thing. What happened afterwards was several
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hundred Antifa protesters descended and began attacking Trump supporters, almost exactly like
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San Jose. They would surround one or two people and assault them, attack them, push them, steal their
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hats, throw objects at them. When they had several dozen hats, they put them in a pile and they burned
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them. They also removed police barricades as riot police basically stood by. Then riot police used
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chemical irritants to try to disperse the crowd. Eventually it did disperse. But the mayor didn't
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protect the people of his city. And judging from reports on social media, if the weather had been
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a little better because it was raining, apparently, more chaos would have ensued because you would have
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had more rioters. That's just unacceptable. And it's unfortunate that it happened, but also a sign of
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how little the left cares for free speech. While that was going on, Beto O'Rourke at an LGBTQ forum
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hosted by CNN here in Los Angeles was talking about how he wanted to remove the tax-exempt status
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of religious organizations and institutions that didn't allow same-sex marriage, basically declaring
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war on every church, mosque and synagogue and temple in this country. Because once you remove
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their tax-exempt status, people can't contribute to those religious institutions without getting
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the tax write-off for doing so, which is part of the system we have here, which means that you're
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effectively going to be bankrupting a lot of these churches and synagogues and so forth.
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So Beto O'Rourke and the Democrats are now attacking the First Amendment, not just in terms
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of freedom of speech, but also in terms of freedom of religion. And Joe Biden is complaining that the
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New York Times and other outlets are publishing anti-Biden op-eds, like the one from Breitbart's
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own Peter Schweitzer, who was the initial reporter who did the digging on Biden's Ukrainian connections.
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They're mad that the New York Times published an op-ed by Schweitzer, which didn't just attack Biden,
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also attack Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell for his wife's ties to Chinese
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business interests. And Schweitzer basically said, we have a corrupt system in Washington that both
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parties take advantage of, and we need to do something about that. Biden objected to that,
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saying the New York Times was siding against him and shouldn't print this sort of thing.
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So they're now attacking the First Amendment right to press freedom as well. So Democrats basically are
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Well, you know, at least you have the First Amendment to defend yourself with until it's
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gone. Here in Canada, we lack it. And it's funny because just in recent days, we've had book events
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deplatformed. We had the Federal Debate Commission try and ban us. We had a federal court order us in. So
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hold the line in the first ditch there, Joel, because it's easier to fight in the first ditch than in the
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last ditch. If your First Amendment is gone, you will lose most of these fights as we have up here.
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Well, many of us believe we have a First Amendment because we have a Second Amendment. I mean,
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that's very important to the American way of thinking about freedom. Because you have an armed
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citizenry, there's a limit to what the government can do. Now, if Beto O'Rourke tries to close the
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churches down by going after their tax-exempt status unless they perform same-sex marriages,
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he'll run into opposition in the courts. But there are a lot of judges Obama put on there,
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and there are a lot of judges that a future Democratic will put on there who will not see
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the First Amendment the same way. Right now, in fact, the Supreme Court is considering whether the term
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sex in the law banning discrimination on the basis of sex also applies to transgender people. If you are
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a male and decide to be a female, are you now protected by sexual discrimination laws that were
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passed to protect women from discrimination? And the court is trying to figure that out.
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If you can allow the courts to do that, well, perhaps Beto O'Rourke has a point. Perhaps you
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can't discriminate against same-sex couples at the altar in your church or at your synagogue or in your
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mosque or whatever. So we don't know where this is going, and it's a reminder to Americans of how
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important this next election is because really everything is on the table.
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Yeah, that's amazing. And Trump, for his flaws, a counterweight is his tremendous strength
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with the help of the Senate in approving and, what's the phrase, affirming and voting for
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so many judges who are truly conservative in nature. Would you agree with me that Trump has not only
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affirmed a great number of judges, but they are ideologically strong?
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Well, it's a really interesting story, and I'll give you the short version of it. Democrats grew
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frustrated with Republican opposition in the Senate to some of their radical judges. So they changed the
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rules of the Senate so that you only needed a simple majority to confirm federal judges. They did not
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expect to lose the 2016 elections. When they did, and you suddenly had a Republican president, the
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Republicans said, thank you very much. We are now going to take advantage of that rule change that
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you implemented, and we're going to pass as many judges as we possibly can. And that's what Trump
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has done. I think he's now confirmed over 180 federal judges. So he's really remaking the federal
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judiciary. Now Democrats, in response, are talking about packing the courts. They want to change the
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structure of the courts because there are too many judges who have views with which Democrats disagree.
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What are those views? Well, the list of judges that was prepared for Trump by a conservative
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organization called the Federalist Society includes people who commit to interpret the Constitution and
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the law as written. They're not going to say you can't have liberal laws, but they are going to say
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you have to pass them through the legislature. You can't just create those laws from the bench. And
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that's essentially the commitment that conservative judges are making. And those are the judges Trump is
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appointing. So it's not that Trump is ruling out same-sex marriage or any of this stuff. He's
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just saying if you want to do that, you've got to do it through the legislature and not through the
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courts. And the left doesn't like that because they fear the public is not on their side and they
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want to put as many elite lawyers on the bench as possible because they tend to have left-wing opinions.
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So that's why Trump has succeeded. And that Federalist Society is really interesting. I've been a
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member of the Federalist Society and Trump basically did a deal with them, you know, the consummate dealmaker.
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He basically said in 2016 in the primary when there was some conservative misgiving about Trump,
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he said, look, I'll do a deal with you. Conservatives, I know you know that I'm a
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former Democrat and I've had liberal social views. You know what? I'm going to give you,
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essentially, control over my list of judges. You guys come up with the list and I will nominate
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people from your list. And he has followed through on that deal, which is one of the reasons that
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conservatives are so happy with President Trump. He has made that deal, kept that deal, and Democrats
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are now trying to replicate it on their side by coming up with lists of liberal judges who would
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be appointed to the courts in the event a Democrat wins and the Democrats take control of the Senate.
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So that's the story of how we got to where we are. But the Democrats, including major presidential
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candidates like Pete Buttigieg and others, they're saying they want to expand the number of Supreme
00:26:44.060
Court justices from nine to as many as 15. And they want to allow those judges to choose their own
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replacements. They want to take the choice of judicial appointments away from the legislature
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and give it to the courts themselves, which is how judges are chosen in some countries. And it has
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resulted in runaway power for the courts unchecked by the Democratic majority. So that's what Democrats
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want to do. And they hope it will create a liberal or left wing, really not liberal, left wing judiciary.
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And, you know, we'll see. It's all coming down to 2020. Wow. Well, I got one last question for you.
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I've learned so much from what you've just said here. And in Canada, we don't vet our judges in public.
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It's all secretive. It's it's very undemocratic. And in Canada, we have a misplaced submission and
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subservience to our judges. In America, judges, everyone knows judges are have a political nature.
00:27:48.620
So they bring to it a political accountability, political scrutiny. In Canada, our judges are even
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more political than yours. But there's this aura around them that they are high priests who cannot
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be questioned. I think it's a great flaw, not just in our Constitution, but in our media culture.
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That's a branch of government, the judiciary, but we don't hold it to any account. And that's,
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I think, a weakness of Canada. I want to shift back to the riots for a moment, if I may, because
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I have a theory about Antifa, Black Bloc, and why George Soros, in the days and weeks after Trump's
00:28:25.740
win in 2016, publicly committed tens, I think it was even over $100 million to street activism.
00:28:34.060
And I think it's this, to associate the word Trump with controversy, chaos, and danger.
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If you support Trump, not only will you personally be at risk if you wear a red Make America Great
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Again hat, if you go to a Trump rally, not only will you personally be at risk, but wherever Trump
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goes, there's a riot, there's someone being punched, there's some car burning, that it's to create a sense
00:29:02.940
of crisis in general, but crisis and controversy attached to Trump itself. And that is a psychological,
00:29:10.940
a mass psychology tactic from the left. That's my theory. Maybe that's, maybe that's obvious.
00:29:16.060
Well, it's not even a theory. You're 100% correct. And in fact, it predates the 2016 election. Or it
00:29:23.340
happened during the election. It predates election day. But that's specifically what the Democrats did.
00:29:29.660
And James O'Keefe, the conservative filmmaker, exposed it because he got several high-level
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Democratic operatives on tape saying that that was their goal. They would infiltrate activists into
00:29:40.460
Trump rallies and other rallies, not just Trump, other Republican events. And they would instigate
00:29:45.660
fights. And they would have someone there to record on video, then they'd make sure the video
00:29:50.700
made its way to the mainstream media. And the idea was to create a sense, in their words, of anarchy
00:29:56.700
around anything happening with Trump and the Republicans. So that when people thought of Trump,
00:30:01.420
they thought of instability, danger, chaos, exactly as you said. That was the plan. They have a term
00:30:07.180
for it. They called it bird-dogging. And that's what they did. And that's what they continue to do.
00:30:13.740
The problem for them is that all the Trump supporters are onto what they're doing. And
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Trump is also very good at setting the stage. When you've got a president who can command the audience,
00:30:25.180
he does. He's very good at setting things up. And he set it up in Minneapolis very well as a battle
00:30:31.020
over free speech. You're either going to let us have free speech, we can come together and express
00:30:36.700
ourselves, or you're not. And it's clear that even though Minneapolis reluctantly agreed to allow
00:30:42.620
this rally to happen, they did not protect the people who attended it. And they allowed these
00:30:47.180
thugs to attack them. Now, people may be reluctant to go to future political rallies. I can tell you
00:30:52.300
one thing, though. People who know about what happened are going to be more inclined to go to the polls
00:30:57.500
and vote for Donald Trump. Because people sense that if this sort of thing is allowed to take place
00:31:03.180
without any sort of repercussions politically, then it's going to continue and become worse. And
00:31:08.700
we're going to live in a society based on fear. The other thing that's making that clear to people
00:31:13.260
is the NBA, you know, the National Basketball Association. Congratulations again to the Toronto
00:31:18.060
Raptors. But, you know, we've got the NBA over in China right now, and they're shutting down
00:31:23.020
American journalists who want to ask questions of the basketball players about the crackdown
00:31:29.740
on their free speech rights by China. China is not allowing any sort of criticism of their policies
00:31:35.500
in Hong Kong. And an NBA general manager for the Houston Rockets made a comment about Hong Kong while
00:31:40.620
he was traveling with the team in Asia. And he was immediately rebuked by another NBA official,
00:31:46.860
and they've wrestled with it. And the Chinese basically said, we're not going to air any more
00:31:51.100
preseason games. And China is basically trying to shut the NBA down in China, even though it's very
00:31:55.420
popular there. And it's exposed the degree to which the NBA was in cahoots with the Chinese regime
00:32:01.500
in suppressing freedom of speech, but not just the NBA. ESPN, the big sports network here,
00:32:07.260
they've been suppressing discussion about this. And a whole bunch of other American companies
00:32:12.300
have been curtailing free speech activities because of the demands of the Chinese government.
00:32:17.500
So Americans are waking up to what Donald Trump has forced everyone to see, which is that doing
00:32:23.180
business with China comes at a major cost to our own freedoms. And so people are aware that
00:32:31.420
this is at stake very much in the 2020 election. Wow. I tell you, we didn't even have time to talk
00:32:38.220
about impeachment, but I'm so glad we focused on free speech. That's something that's important to us
00:32:43.100
up here. I also traveled to the United Kingdom from time to time. I'm interested in a former
00:32:48.460
journalist of ours named Tommy Robinson. I see that the UK is further down the road of censorship than
00:32:53.980
Canada is. And Canada is further down the road of censorship to the United States. And so just as I
00:33:00.620
use the UK as a cautionary tale, a warning for Canada, I encourage you, Joel, to look at what's
00:33:06.620
happening in Canada from our crackdown on social media to our crackdown on Islamophobia to the
00:33:14.940
de-platforming and shrinking of the bandwidth of political diversity. Look at us as a cautionary
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tale, because if you don't dig in your heels, it will get worse. And I hope you don't let it get worse
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down there. Well, you know, with us, we have a new challenge. It's not the government suppressing
00:33:31.740
freedom of speech yet anyway. It's really the private sector, large companies, social media
00:33:38.380
giants, and the NBA. I mean, who thought of them that way? But they're always quick to criticize
00:33:44.060
Trump and quick to side with social justice and all that stuff. But when it comes to China,
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they're quiet in general. And so we're starting to realize that. You know, that's a good point.
00:33:53.260
And that's something we've learned, too. The governments like to, if anything, contract out
00:33:57.820
there's censorship to the social media companies. And you're right, the NBA, that's just pure
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crony capitalism. They'd rather cut a deal with rich Beijing than uphold the system of freedom that
00:34:09.180
gave them their economic growth in America. Joel, thanks for your time today. Keep up the fight
00:34:14.780
down there. I look forward to keeping in touch with you as the US 2020 race unfolds.
00:34:19.900
Thank you so much. All right. There you have it. Joel Pollack,
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the senior editor at large at Breitbart.com. Stay with us. More ahead.
00:34:27.820
Hello. Great to see you again. Thank you for joining us on this Canadian Thanksgiving.
00:34:40.860
I know I've talked a little bit on YouTube about deplatforming, but I thought I'd do a proper show
00:34:44.780
on it. Look, we started Rebel News to actually do news, do journalism, reporting commentary,
00:34:53.020
some activism, sure. We didn't start it to get into a bunch of litigation.
00:34:57.660
But our enemies have brought that to us. They call themselves our enemies. They don't want to
00:35:01.500
debate with us. We're not their counterparts. They want to silence us and deplatform us. But I believe
00:35:07.340
in the form of a inducement to breach contract lawsuit, I believe I can push back and root out
00:35:14.300
the problem and maybe stop this trend. I'm willing to bet on it. I'm going to put the money of our company
00:35:20.460
into suing the people who caused us to be deplatformed. I do need your help.
00:35:25.020
If you can go to stop deplatforming.com, I'd appreciate it. All right. That's the show for
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today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night