Rebel News Podcast - Notley, Trudeau bring homegrown recession to Alberta. Will momentum for political change last to 2019？ (Guest： Robbie Picard)

00:00:00.000 We are experiencing the worst times in the Alberta oil patch in at least a generation,

00:00:05.780 maybe ever. And now the politicians who created this mess say they have all the answers to fix

00:00:12.620 it. All we have to do is trust them. Do you? I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:30.000 2,500 angry Calgarians gathered in downtown Calgary about two weeks ago. Justin Trudeau

00:00:45.020 was in town speaking to, well, I guess anybody but them. The Calgarians were rallying in support

00:00:52.300 of Alberta's oil and gas sector, one that has been beleaguered and hard hit by carbon

00:00:57.720 taxes, lack of market access because of dithering on pipelines, cancelled pipelines and bad legislation

00:01:05.320 that injects social justice measures into energy project applications and approvals. Late last

00:01:12.740 week, a smaller protest was held early in the morning in downtown Edmonton when Natural Resources

00:01:18.720 Minister Amarjeet Sohi was in town to speak to a business audience from the Edmonton Chamber

00:01:24.580 of Commerce. I was there on the scene with the protesters. People are fearful. They're anxious

00:01:32.400 about the future and some are even losing everything and they feel like the government

00:01:37.720 isn't listening to them. They're fed up and they feel like if the catastrophic economic conditions

00:01:44.160 that exist in Alberta right now existed in Ontario or Quebec or another eastern province,

00:01:50.500 the federal government would be a lot quicker to act to help them. And I think they're right. And I

00:01:57.740 think this lack of action from the federal government coupled with Rachel Notley's mishandling of the

00:02:04.460 energy file from the very beginning is making a lot of non-political people suddenly politically

00:02:11.500 motivated to see change. My guest tonight is someone who often describes himself as non-political or

00:02:18.180 apolitical. He says he only cares about jobs, but I think that's changing. Joining me tonight from his

00:02:26.040 hotel room in Calgary is my friend Robbie Picard from Oil Sand Strong to talk about the wild couple of

00:02:32.700 weeks we've had in the Alberta oil patch and what happens next.

00:02:53.520 Hey Robbie, thanks for joining me. We've had so much news in pipelines and pipeline protests over the past,

00:02:59.760 I don't know, two weeks. Let's go back. I guess it would be two weeks to the protests that happened

00:03:06.640 in Calgary. About 2,500 people took the streets of Calgary on a work day to protest in favor of pipelines.

00:03:17.060 What's that all about?

00:03:18.840 Well, I think a lot of the big turnout had to do with the fact that Justin Trudeau was in Calgary

00:03:23.580 and his charm offensive has finally worn off. People are sick of him.

00:03:31.600 Everything he does before flaunting $50 million to a celebrity in the United States,

00:03:38.260 to buy in a pipeline and not building the pipeline and not doing everything in the power to make sure

00:03:43.120 it's built, people are fed up. On one hand, I'm happy because it's making my cause, advocacy,

00:03:49.420 more people are listening, more people are engaged. I'm sad because it took us this long to get to this

00:03:56.440 point. I don't know what is wrong with Alberta that we don't, we don't, we're just, we're reactive,

00:04:04.120 we're not proactive. So I'm fed up with Justin Trudeau and I'm as non-partisan as I get. I can't take it

00:04:11.520 anymore. I can't take his arrogance, his narcissism, his, I don't know, his team around him. And we're

00:04:22.180 hurting in Alberta and particularly Calgary. And I just think that people have had enough and people

00:04:32.980 are going to do whatever they can to try and express their frustration and fight back.

00:04:37.120 And it didn't, I guess it didn't stop in Calgary because the natural resources minister,

00:04:43.760 Amarjeet Sohi, who happens to be an Edmonton MP, one of the four few of them that are from the

00:04:52.900 Liberal Party in Alberta, he was in Edmonton last week and I ran into you there. And that rally

00:04:59.040 started before the sun came up on the unholy side of 7.15 in the morning. And there was a couple

00:05:06.040 hundred people downtown Edmonton paying for parking just to protest Amarjeet Sohi. I think

00:05:12.260 it was great.

00:05:13.680 Yeah, it was, I helped with that rally, helped organize it. And then I was going around with

00:05:20.440 the bullhorn. And actually, my job, my marketing company, like I'm go, go, go, go, go. And I

00:05:28.460 missed my flight. So I was like, I got a friend of mine to drive me down all night long. And he was a

00:05:34.080 nice guy to give me the ride, but he was kept chatting. So I didn't get any sleep, but it was

00:05:37.620 okay. And that rally meant a lot to me because Edmonton, Calgary, you know, rallies are kind of

00:05:43.380 easy, but Edmonton, it's not as easy. And we're sick of words. We need action. We need like, okay,

00:05:51.960 the pipeline is begun under construction. We're not going to put unnecessary tanker bans because

00:05:58.180 Gerald Butts thinks it's a good thing to do. We're going to actually act like a country and not be so

00:06:03.220 regional. The lip service is insane. They bought a pipeline. It's like Justin Trudeau paid for with

00:06:09.680 his own money. I mean, he's not a billionaire. I know he's rich, but it's our money. It's

00:06:15.160 collectively the future of Canada. And the entitlement is just blowing my mind. The one I took

00:06:24.100 personally, and I really hate entitlement. I hate second generational wealth. I mean, I get it that

00:06:33.220 some people are born into money, but I always have a thing against second generational wealth

00:06:36.500 because it's the type of kid that comes out of that. It's sometimes kind of messed up. And when

00:06:45.560 he, with that, with that just pompous entitlement basically says, you know, well, you know,

00:06:52.020 camp workers and construction workers, like the, that they're basically like, I mean,

00:06:58.780 I don't know if he's alluding the fact that he thinks that they're rapists, but I mean,

00:07:00.940 that's what Lina Lubicon Mossimo and that Candace or whatever, Conowitz Emanuel who went around 1.00

00:07:08.380 with a bullhorn harassing working Canadians and calling them whitey and stuff. That's what they 1.00

00:07:14.200 were putting out. Yeah. You know what? Sorry. I dug up the exact quote for you. This is what he said

00:07:21.020 when he was in Argentina. He got himself, uh, the international press focused on his face and his

00:07:28.980 socks. And instead of advocating for Canadian oil and gas, because the world does need more Canada,

00:07:34.740 he took the opportunity to blast our working men who are fueling the economy. This is what he said.

00:07:43.980 What does a gender lens have to do with building this new highway or this new pipeline? Well, 1.00

00:07:50.080 there are impacts when you bring construction workers into a rural area. There are social

00:07:55.160 impacts because they are mostly male construction workers. How are you adjusting or adapting to those

00:08:03.420 impacts? And like you, I took that personally because my husband is one of those people he's

00:08:09.960 talking about. Um, my dad was one of those people he's talking about. My father-in-law is one of those

00:08:16.200 people he's talking about. My brother was one of those people he's talking about. My brother-in-law's,

00:08:20.340 um, and they're just good guys working hard, making sacrifices far away from their families in some

00:08:28.260 pretty miserable conditions. And it's one thing for their prime minister to casually say that he's going

00:08:35.360 to phase out their jobs, but then he does them this indignity to the international press. I found it

00:08:41.880 so insulting how he degraded these men this way.

00:08:49.500 You know, as you read that, it makes me more angry with, with Justin. Um, you know, as he is a

00:08:56.120 world jet setter spending our tax dollars, like it's his own. Um, you know, when I worked at, uh,

00:09:02.440 from other oil companies for five years and, you know, and I'm not your typical oil worker,

00:09:06.000 but I did for five years, I got on the bus, um, every day at six in the morning and I put in a,

00:09:11.140 you know, 14 hour day driving the largest truck in the world. And I did that, you know, for five

00:09:17.020 years and that was to make a better life so I could buy a house and, you know, but what I was saw the

00:09:23.060 most of that, you know, made me really understand what makes a country work. Um, and it's not the blue

00:09:29.700 callers in Calgary or Toronto in the offices. It's the guys that like, I remember one guy, he,

00:09:36.040 you know, he was from Newfoundland. He had a bit of a rough time and he had pictures of all three of

00:09:39.760 his granddaughters in his wallet and in his locker. And every time he wanted to quit, he thought of

00:09:45.600 them because he was paying for their school. Um, so many, like I'm like, he insulted all of Alberta.

00:09:51.840 He insulted my father, insulted everybody. No society's perfect. There's always going to be

00:09:56.620 miss subs, but from a, for a trust fund baby like him. And not only does he have a trust fund from

00:10:03.200 a famous name, he, um, well, let me phrase that. Not only does he have an inheritance from his father,

00:10:08.440 whatever, how he has that, he also has a famous name. So he literally can just walk through life

00:10:13.720 and he's good looking and he has, I mean, if you want to talk about white privilege, Trudeau is the

00:10:18.620 example of all privilege in the world. He's got Laurentian Lalit privilege. He's got privilege

00:10:24.140 because of his father. He's got privilege and he didn't have to work very hard for it. He could

00:10:29.020 become a school teacher and then become prime minister. But, and I mean, I, I'm not even faulting

00:10:34.360 him for that. I mean, I, I, some of that's not his fault, but to be in Argentina to the international

00:10:39.320 press, well, we are trying to change the image of Canadian oil across the world because of people

00:10:44.240 like Gerald Butts who've tarnished our reputation. Um, and to talk about that, I, I honestly, like,

00:10:51.700 I think he should resign. I, I don't, I, I don't care that he seems to think that he bought a

00:10:56.940 pipeline. Canada, a lot of pipeline. He's, he's, he's not, he's not our, he's not our king. Um,

00:11:03.840 he's a steward. Um, he's supposed to be in charge of some stuff while he's elected. And, and he, I,

00:11:09.560 I'm, I'm blown away by it. Entitlement. I know him. I hosted an event for him a couple of times and

00:11:15.640 I don't know. Like I, I, when I hung around Rona Ambrose, I was very impressed with her

00:11:20.500 intelligence. Even, even Rachel Notley, um, Jason Kenney. I've met a lot of, you know,

00:11:26.140 politicians and leaders and Tom, and even if I don't always agree with them, I was impressed

00:11:29.900 with them. I'm not impressed with Justin. I mean, like how dare, after, after that rally

00:11:36.320 in Calgary and where he sees, like, I mean, people are upset with him after that rally in

00:11:42.960 Calgary. I mean, Calgarians don't, they just want to work. It's a different mentality in Alberta.

00:11:47.480 They don't want handouts. They don't want government. They don't care about extending EI.

00:11:51.720 They just want to go to work, make money, maybe buy a truck or a car, or have a little bit of a

00:11:57.880 life, go on a vacation. But most importantly, they want to feed their families and it's men and women. 0.83

00:12:03.220 And the camps, that's even though it blew me away, camps are a lot more women than they've ever been. 0.99

00:12:07.500 Sure. There's a little bit more men, but I would argue that it's, it's, I would say it's 60,

00:12:11.120 40, and maybe even a bit more. But he just insults all of Canada instead of saying, you know what,

00:12:15.500 Canadian people work really hard and thank you to the construction workers. Thank you for all of

00:12:19.940 them. He basically does this sort of, I don't know, this, I'm better than you looking at me,

00:12:27.600 I'm prime minister. Oh, by the way, I'm going to give away $50 million. He insulted everybody.

00:12:33.340 And I don't think, I don't think he's going to recover. I mean, certainly not with me.

00:12:35.700 I, I, I'm not going to let that go. Um, I can't, I mean, I'm just, I'm hurt and I'm angry.

00:12:42.360 Um, I mean, that basically like he is completely out of touch with reality and, and you might be

00:12:48.840 able to roll up your dress shirt and take off your suit jacket, but you're not a construction

00:12:53.620 worker. You've never actually spent 12 hours in the field. I know what those conditions are like,

00:13:00.240 just so you can pay for your unborn child or your wife or vice versa. There's plenty of women who go 1.00

00:13:07.180 and work in those camps as construction jobs. There's this whole thing, which he probably didn't

00:13:13.840 even know about. It's called building futures. And that's a huge thing in Alberta where they're

00:13:18.220 trying to get women into trades and it's very successful. So he insulted everybody else and

00:13:22.760 assaulted women. And I think the biggest insult of all is that he, I hate it when he says I'm a

00:13:31.260 feminist. Ron Ambrose is a feminist. Kim Campbell's a feminist. Margaret Thatcher's a feminist. Rachel

00:13:36.920 Notley's a feminist. Leave the women to be the feminist. You're a white dude with curly hair. 0.95

00:13:42.300 That's good looking. He's had a very privileged life. And I hate saying that. I hate, I don't believe

00:13:47.360 anybody's has more privilege than anybody else. I hate it. But if there's one person who's 0.85

00:13:52.620 the epitome of privilege, it's him. For him to sit back and, like, I think that he doesn't want to,

00:13:59.140 I don't think, I think he wants, he doesn't, there's too many female politicians like, you know, 1.00

00:14:03.740 Michelle Rempel and people are just going to him. Well, I'm a feminist. Like, it's like a shield

00:14:07.800 that he wears. But, you know, he insulted the entire country. He insulted us. And especially right

00:14:12.760 now, we were selling our oil at bargain basement prices that, you know, Kenny and Notley are forced to

00:14:17.480 work together. I'm blown away by his complete and netness, incompetence, narcissistic behavior.

00:14:25.860 Now, you just touched on something that I wanted to talk to you about. And I think you and I might be

00:14:32.940 on different sides of this, but we're friends and I'm a conservative and I'm happy to discuss things

00:14:40.720 with people who disagree with me. The cutting of the production by 9% in Alberta, I'm against it.

00:14:51.340 And I'm against it because we are cutting Alberta production while we still import $300 million

00:15:00.320 every month worth of Saudi Arabian oil. We still import oil from the United States. We import oil

00:15:08.440 from Venezuela. We import oil from Algeria. I'm against an embargo on Alberta oil while we are

00:15:15.940 still importing oil from other countries. Because I see this as, well, it is. It's an immediate cut

00:15:23.100 true to the drilling budget. There will be drilling rigs over the Christmas break that are going to be

00:15:29.160 racked and they won't go back to work. And that's because of the production cut. Now, it might keep guys

00:15:34.220 downstream in the refineries working to get through the oil glut. But this is going to cause

00:15:39.000 layoffs. And that's why I'm against it. But I wanted to know what you thought of it.

00:15:44.500 Well, I don't think we disagree with each other. I think that we, because of the blatant

00:15:50.420 incompetence in our federal government with this bizarre, and the provincial, with this bizarre

00:15:57.360 social license justification thing. We're in a, I can't disagree with you. All I know is that I think

00:16:03.880 our price needed to go a bit up, and it did. But I, but I also agree with you. Like it's, it, I think

00:16:09.420 we're in a horrible situation that we just don't know what to do and had to do something. So I, I support

00:16:15.140 doing something, but I can completely see your point. So I'm not going to say I disagree with you.

00:16:20.040 I'm not strongly that they did the right thing. But I'm glad there's, I'm glad the price is going

00:16:25.200 up a little bit. And I think that if we're going to sell it, we need to like, it was just dropping

00:16:30.380 too much. You know what I mean? And I'm worried if it drops too much. What does that mean? You know

00:16:35.100 what I mean? But that I think that's a conversation. I mean, what, what, what a joke. It's like watching

00:16:39.860 a bad movie. It really is. It's like, you got a bunch of people who are, I don't know that they

00:16:46.160 aren't really skilled, and they're suddenly in charge. I remember like, I'm

00:16:50.040 I'm, you know what I'm really worried about? When I was a kid, the people in charge, they

00:16:54.160 seem to know what they were doing. Yeah. I don't feel like that anymore. I feel like it's

00:16:58.300 sort of like a, like, I don't know, like, you kind of knew what they were doing. Whether

00:17:01.760 you like Ma Rooney or not, he kind of knew, Gretchen knew, you know, I think Harper really

00:17:06.440 knew. And now it's just like, okay, well, let's try this. Well, let's try that. It's not,

00:17:12.920 there's no real ownership, you know? So I support their decision extremely under

00:17:19.600 protest. So I don't think we disagree. I think we're kind of on the same page. I see

00:17:24.260 your point. At the same time, I think they had to do something, if that makes any sense.

00:17:28.560 Sure. I think that, just to add to the point that I was making, and then that I didn't make,

00:17:36.060 what this does is it protects Rachel Notley's royalties, right? She wants the price of oil to 1.00

00:17:43.560 go higher so that the government has more revenue, which means that she's sacrificing private sector 1.00

00:17:51.200 jobs and drilling and trucking to protect her public sector hiring spree. And that's what I 1.00

00:17:58.200 really have a problem with. While production in the oil patch in the private sector is being cut up

00:18:04.040 to 9%, Notley's not cutting her budget 9%. She's continuing to spend. So only the private sector

00:18:13.020 is feeling the pain. And that's the part that really bothers me the most. All of this is being

00:18:19.640 borne on the backs of people and families who are already struggling with reduced hours.

00:18:24.600 Oh, yeah, you know, you're completely right. And I honestly, I, you'll be surprised. I'm speechless

00:18:37.220 on this one. I don't know the answer. I don't think anybody does. When you bring up that point,

00:18:42.580 like, I'm just sick of it. I'm so emotional right now. Because, like, I've been emotional a lot lately,

00:18:49.520 because I just, I work, like, I do this advocacy, like, at my own expense. I spent over 80 grand in

00:18:57.800 my own money this year. And I'm, I care, legitimately care. Do I want to make money on

00:19:03.960 my t-shirts? Yeah, I do. I'd like to, I'd like to really get, you know, at least break even at this,

00:19:08.480 right. But you work, like, I travel, I take planes, I go to every rally that I think I have an impact

00:19:17.060 at. Like, Edmonton, I needed to be there because I've got a good presence and people know me. And

00:19:20.900 that rally had a risk of not being perfect, like the Calgary rally. So I went. And I put out,

00:19:27.260 I care so much about getting a pipeline built that I'm, you know, and it's emotional because I'm slowly

00:19:34.180 watching our country fall apart. And I'm happy. Right now, we've had more support than we've ever

00:19:39.460 had. Like, we're in a really strong position right now for support. Like, we're getting support in

00:19:43.200 Ontario. We're getting support in Quebec. And, and you can feel it. You know what I mean? When, like,

00:19:48.760 horrible organizations like Lush, you know, they boycott, they are attacking our industry. And then

00:19:55.480 all of a sudden, it resurvices people like, whoa, Lush, let's, they're, they're, they're engaged,

00:20:00.020 which is good. But I mean, I guess I'm another four or five years ahead. And I'm looking at what

00:20:05.960 Alberta and Canada is going to look like if we don't get our act together. And I mean, I guess

00:20:13.020 the one good, I just want everyone to get along. I want it to be like it used to be. The NDP were

00:20:19.120 kind of unions and unions wanted too much. Or then the conservatives were kind of like all business.

00:20:24.740 And then both parties kind of fought it out. And then, and then, but it was all about the greater

00:20:29.460 good. So the NDP at the time cared about union and union jobs and, and oil jobs and CN jobs and

00:20:35.060 that. And the conservatives were about low taxes and business. And sometimes, you know, it went the

00:20:41.200 other way. But now, it's a joke. You have the federal NDP who has got to be the worst politician

00:20:45.840 in Canadian history, who I don't think is fit to drive a bus. You have, you have, and they don't care

00:20:54.440 about jobs. The federal NDP wants to shut down the pipelines. How is that an NDP? My father who is

00:21:00.040 a conservative. He says a conservative represents people better. So the federal NDP, like, I mean,

00:21:07.080 like he, it's a joke, shut down the pipeline. And you know, the worst part where I actually feel bad

00:21:11.140 for Notley. Notley is the most successful NDP politician in Canadian history. And they all

00:21:15.340 abandoned her. They left her. They don't care about her. They're, they're too busy trying to do the

00:21:20.400 leap manifesto. Now, I can't forgive Notley for putting Sapporo Berman, the biggest hypocrite joke 0.98

00:21:26.580 in Canadian history, um, in that role. And I believe that damaged Alberta. But what I can say 0.95

00:21:32.600 is I, I, I, you know, I, I, I, I'm torn on that, but I'll go back to that in a sec. Then you have

00:21:38.320 Justin Trudeau, who wants to be, I think he wants to be for the UN. I think his ultimate game plan is to

00:21:45.100 be like an ambassador for a year. And I think he's more suited for that. He'd be suited to be the queen.

00:21:49.180 He'd be perfect. And that's all he wants to do is be symbolic. I care about this and I'm this and

00:21:54.760 I'll cut this ribbon. And, but okay, let's have a discussion here. Um, what's the guy's name from

00:22:03.040 that late show? Trevor, no, no one, whatever. Trevor Noah, Trevor Noah. Okay. So Trevor Noah is

00:22:07.880 from South Africa. I like his show sometimes, but I'm, I, you know, he's been very anti pipeline,

00:22:13.060 anti Keystone XL, and he kind of has this higher than thou kind of attitude. When you tweet

00:22:19.020 out $50 million to his charity of choice, you are misrepresenting all candidates. You're

00:22:25.800 abusing your position as prime minister. You have no respect for the tax dollars that made

00:22:31.380 that $50 million. And when GM just did a massive layoff in Ontario, which you care, which he

00:22:39.320 cares more about than the far more, and I'm not downplaying the layoff, but what I'll say

00:22:43.040 is that those amount of layoffs are monthly for Alberta. So wake up. Okay. So, but when

00:22:48.740 you, you don't get that, that $50 million could have gone somewhere else, but no, you're like,

00:22:52.760 you're pledging it. Like if you could just pledge it, like, is there no accountability to Justin

00:22:56.920 Trudeau doesn't have to go through some sort of process? I mean, like it's sad. So you have

00:23:04.260 him who really has no sense of money, just spending all the country's money. And I believe that the

00:23:09.080 economy is doing good in certain parts simply because he's propping it up with more debt.

00:23:12.460 That's my theory. I'm not an economist by any means. And then you have the NDP and then you

00:23:18.060 have the Conservatives trying, right? Like, I mean, I'm not sure if Scheer's the right dude or not,

00:23:23.800 but at the same time, I mean, they're trying. And I listened to when they speak, especially like,

00:23:28.620 you know, um, especially like Michelle Rempel and like, why are these names drawing me blank right

00:23:33.800 now? But, um, anyway, I like, I like, they're calling them on, they're trying, right? But,

00:23:39.080 but it's not, it's not how it's supposed to be. Like, I don't think anyone really knows what means

00:23:43.800 what anymore. And I'm scared that there's people smarter than me and they're way ahead of Canada.

00:23:51.420 And I'm just laughing at us. So like, I'll watch the Canadians play in there. And meanwhile, we're, 0.55

00:23:55.460 we're slowly, you know, we're slowly destroying everything that made Canada made Canada a great

00:24:01.460 country to live in, in a, in a, in a fair and equal country. You know, um, the most important

00:24:07.440 thing, someone asked me about Jason Kennedy the other day, like Robbie, you know, you're gay and,

00:24:10.720 you know, all this type of stuff. And I, and, and, and, and Kenny's going to do this and Kenny's

00:24:14.500 going to do that. And I said, all I care about is a pipeline. You can fight about different rules

00:24:21.040 and laws and programs when the economy is good. When the economy is good, you can have these

00:24:27.300 discussions, but if no one has a job and no one can, you know, put their, pay for their families

00:24:33.840 in foreclosure, well then you've got real problems. And that's a real problem. Like, I think we have

00:24:40.580 this problem in society now where we like, we think problems are not our problems. You know what I mean?

00:24:44.860 And, and our families, you know, having money for healthcare and hospitals and, and the ability

00:24:52.180 for people, if they want to make a choice to open a business, that they have a shot, that's

00:24:56.440 really important. And I think that's all on the line. And if we don't solve our oil problem

00:25:02.960 immediately, I don't know what Alberta is going to be. And maybe to poor Berman and Gerald,

00:25:10.120 Daryl Butz, maybe they won. Maybe they've accomplished what they wanted to do. You know,

00:25:15.920 maybe, maybe Gerald Butz convinced Justin Trudeau to buy a pipeline, never to build it. It's not

00:25:20.160 his 4 billion. What does he care? Well, and that's, that's the thing. Like if I were to

00:25:25.320 devise a plan to kill the oil industry, I wouldn't have done anything different than what these people

00:25:32.600 have done. I would do exactly what they've done. Bring in a carbon tax, change regulations on 0.78

00:25:38.620 pipelines halfway through, bring in Bill 16, C69 to basically deter any other pipeline proposals

00:25:46.460 by a pipeline, and then never get it built. I would, I would, I literally would not do anything

00:25:56.140 different than what they're doing, including the production cuts. Because if I were an investor

00:26:03.180 to Alberta, I wouldn't go somewhere where the government could put the brakes on my project

00:26:12.460 and my production to protect their royalties. I'd go to Saskatchewan, I'd go to North Dakota,

00:26:19.520 I'd go to Texas.

00:26:20.300 Yeah. And I mean, I agree with you. I'm, you know, I think that's a very terrifying position

00:26:30.920 that we're in. And I don't know, I don't know what I would do if I was in that position. I mean,

00:26:34.840 I honestly never really thought about that point. I'm going to have to give it some time and try to

00:26:39.420 weigh it out before I formulate my final opinion on it. But that is a very valid point. And is that

00:26:45.500 their end game? Are they simply trying to destroy our industry in one way or another? I mean,

00:26:51.780 these guys, they fight on multiple fronts. It's not just like, you know, we fight on a couple,

00:26:56.660 they fight on multiple fronts. They like, I mean, I've seen it, I've, I've seen so many scary things

00:27:01.980 that happen behind the scenes that, you know, people deliberately like come up and they work for

00:27:07.040 a specific organization. And then they, they try, it's all, it's a big game of influence. And it's very sad

00:27:13.720 and very scary because, you know, if we don't fix this, I mean, we're, the funny thing is like all

00:27:21.860 of us will, like, I mean, the Fort Mekhi First Nation, I mean, they have $250 million in a tank farm.

00:27:26.880 You have the, for the Mikasu also, you're going to see everybody fall apart. So, I mean,

00:27:34.880 going forward, we need to be honest. I know there's certain organizations that they fight projects

00:27:42.900 because they want more from the oil companies. I've seen it. So, that needs to stop, right? Like,

00:27:48.740 you can't take Greenpeace, I mean, they can't, they're playing all sides. Like, they're, they're

00:27:52.240 friends with Greenpeace because Greenpeace will kick up a fight until they get what they want. And

00:27:55.920 then when they get what they want, they go, oh, no, Greenpeace is bad. So, that happens. I don't know.

00:28:02.040 I just wish people were more honest. And, and I don't find, like, I mean, whether people like

00:28:07.200 Notley or not, I feel that she keeps her word or at least she, you know what she's going to do is

00:28:10.760 she's elected Trump the same. Trump did everything he said he was going to do. Not true, though.

00:28:15.860 Now, I'm going to have a $10 billion deficit and then say a deficit for the entire term of his

00:28:21.080 election. I mean, oh, it just, it's just scary. I mean, I would take Stephen Harper like any day

00:28:30.260 because I felt that Stephen Harper knew. And then, I mean, and Stephen Harper, like, I mean,

00:28:35.380 when he had that economic crash, I mean, he, out of all of the GA countries, he navigated it the best

00:28:42.100 with intelligence and thoughtfulness and planning. I was very impressed with that. And every single

00:28:48.560 time Trudeau gets called out on something, well, Stephen Harper didn't do this and Stephen Harper

00:28:52.480 didn't do that. I mean, it's just horrible. They're asking him questions and he started bringing up

00:28:55.960 French language stuff in Ontario. I mean, answer the question. Be honest. Be honest. Just simply say,

00:29:03.480 yes, no, whatever. Why with the spin all the time? I don't know. I would expect way more from my

00:29:10.340 leaders. I, you know, I wish we, I wish I do as much as I can with what I have. And I think I have

00:29:19.600 a pretty big impact, but I am terrified right now, to be truthful. Well, that is a pretty dark note to

00:29:27.980 leave our interview on, but I do want to give you the opportunity to plug, uh, yourself and your

00:29:36.720 efforts and your shirts. Um, because you are basically self-funded. You don't have any patrons

00:29:43.300 to help you fight these battles that you fight on our behalf. Um, you're flying all over the place.

00:29:49.860 You're driving all over the place. Um, you're staying in hotels, um, like you are right now.

00:29:56.380 Um, so where can people buy your tur, buy your shirts, buy some merchandise and help you out?

00:30:03.400 So I am going to be, um, redoing my clothing line. You just go to oilsandstrong.com and we have a small

00:30:10.600 store, uh, buy some t-shirts and yes, I am 100% self-funded. Um, I do sell shirts. Sometimes I sell them

00:30:17.580 in bulk, but I'd like to raise a little bit more money. Um, my marketing company, um, like I have,

00:30:24.380 uh, three employees and the contracts I get from my marketing company, from my other business stuff

00:30:28.820 that supplements it. But yeah, I know I'm a self-funded, um, so oilsandstrong.com and then

00:30:34.720 I'm going to be working on some new projects right away. So, um, I'm looking for some sponsorship to,

00:30:39.360 I have a video series called Visit Fort McMurray and I'm doing one called Visit Calgary right away.

00:30:42.980 So I'm looking for some sponsorship in that as well. Um, and then basically, uh, like my,

00:30:48.020 my social media reach is decent. Like last month, I think I had over 5 million impressions on my

00:30:52.480 social media. So I think that's good. So yeah, please sponsor support. Um, if you like what I do or,

00:30:59.360 um, I, I would appreciate that. It's a cool logo. You know, it's pretty, pretty cool. I'm going to

00:31:06.760 have some nice stuff in the near future. Well, I can't wait because I'm going to be one of your

00:31:12.380 best customers, Robbie. I want to thank you so much for coming on the show. Um, taking the time

00:31:17.740 tonight to talk to me and share your thoughts on what's happening in the oil patch. Um, I know it's

00:31:24.040 dark times, um, but I'm hopeful for the future. If we change government a couple of times here.

00:31:30.820 Well, I think, um, look, here's my mess. And I'm, I'm still going to be nonpartisan,

00:31:39.220 but I'm going to, I'm going to be, be political here. When you vote, vote on one simple principle.

00:31:46.540 Is the person I'm voting for going to help me be more successful till I can support my family?

00:31:54.680 And I think that's a key thing. I think that's the most important thing right now. Alberta was the

00:31:59.920 envy of all economies in the world for a while, or at least in Canada and Alberta carried this

00:32:05.300 country and nevermind the tax revenue or transfer payments. Alberta gave people opportunities from

00:32:12.640 Newfoundland that was going through a tough time to come and work in Fort McMurray or work in Calgary

00:32:16.220 or work in Red Deer or wherever and make money to make a better life. And because of the money they

00:32:22.760 made, they were to pay off their house in Newfoundland. They could retire there. Alberta deserves better

00:32:28.200 from the rest of Canada. We deserve an opportunity to have fair market value for our product that the

00:32:36.640 world needs and consumes. So wherever you vote, have a conscious decision. How will that help? And I think

00:32:45.180 that that's very key, um, particularly federally, because like these pipelines should have been built

00:32:52.800 years ago and they should not be influenced by people that, you know, had jobs in, uh, hypocritical

00:32:58.940 environmental organizations with massive payouts before they took a nice cushy job in government.

00:33:06.620 Amen, Robbie. Thanks again so much for coming on the show and thanks for that advice. I hope everybody

00:33:11.800 takes it and runs with it. Although I don't think I have to worry about my viewers not following that

00:33:17.960 advice. Thanks, Robbie. Thank you for having me.

00:33:33.820 My friend Robbie has clearly done his best to remain non-political, but to still try to move the

00:33:40.100 needle and change the discussion around the ethical nature of Canada's oil and gas industry,

00:33:45.840 as opposed to our global competitors like those in Algeria or Saudi Arabia. But it sounds like

00:33:52.520 there's only so much one man can take before he becomes politically motivated. And I don't think

00:33:59.240 Robbie is alone in feeling that way. People who were happy to just go to work and pay their taxes and

00:34:05.360 take care of their families suddenly aren't able to do those things anymore. And they realize that it is

00:34:11.540 because of the politicians who are currently in power. And I think that crowd of 2,500 people who

00:34:18.220 gathered in downtown Calgary to protest Justin Trudeau is proof of that, that normal non-political

00:34:24.460 citizens are being mobilized against the powers that be. Notley and Trudeau's bad policies are creating

00:34:31.500 the political movement that will one day lead to their ouster. Well, everybody, that's the show for

00:34:37.740 tonight. Thank you so much for taking the time as always to tune in. I'll see everybody back here in

00:34:43.240 the same time, in the same place next week. And remember, don't let the government tell you that

00:34:47.980 you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - December 06, 2018

Notley, Trudeau bring homegrown recession to Alberta. Will momentum for political change last to 2019？ (Guest： Robbie Picard)

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