Off The Cuff Declassified April 30 2018
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The White House Correspondents Dinner was a disaster. Michelle Wolf was unhinged, Sarah Huckabee Sanders was attacked, and James Comey is downplaying, actually criticizing the House Intel report. I ll tell you why I believe he is very, very nervous about his future.
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Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, we discuss that vital routine at the White House Correspondents
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Dinner. Robert Spencer from Jihad Watch joins me to discuss the history of jihad from Muhammad
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to ISIS. Masculinity is now considered a mental disorder at the University of Texas.
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I'm going to tell you all about this ridiculousness. And James Comey is downplaying,
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actually criticizing the House Intel report. I'll tell you why I believe he is very,
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very nervous about his future. The White House Correspondents Dinner was an epic disaster.
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I'm sure you've seen the news on it by now, but man, did they pick the wrong person to emcee that
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night's events. Well, it was a woman named Michelle Wolfe. Apparently she used to be a, or still is,
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I don't watch Comedy Central, but she was a correspondent on Comedy Central's The Daily
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Show. Now, Trevor Noah is an unhinged leftist. I don't find him funny. I used to disagree with
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Jon Stewart. Jon Stewart, at least, is very, very talented. Michelle Wolfe took to the stage
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an angry, mean, miserable woman and proceeded to insult Sarah Huckabee Sanders' appearance. Now,
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Sarah Huckabee Sanders is one of my favorite press secretaries, not because I'm a Trump supporter,
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but because I think she's incredibly quick on her feet, very smart, very witty, and she very
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effectively controls an incredibly hostile White House press corps. She does a masterful job. The
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other thing I like about Sanders is that she never tries to make herself seem like some other press
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secretaries did, like she's more in the loop on certain information than she is. When she's asked
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about the president's personal life or things that are very classified, highly top secret, she says,
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say, look, I don't know. I wasn't read into that. I don't know what happened in the residence. I don't
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know what happened between the president and his family. None of my business, none of your business.
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I also love the way she spanks down Jim Acosta from CNN pretty much daily. You would think the
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side of his face is sore by now from getting those whacks from Sarah from the podium. But what happened
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to her was disgraceful. Now, I don't know Sarah Huckabee Sanders, but I do have very close friends that
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are very close with her. And to a person, they tell me the same things about her, same adjectives,
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witty, funny, warm, engaging. I have had the pleasure of meeting her parents several times,
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Governor Huckabee and his wife, and just very, very nice people. Quick side story. I was at a
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high-dollar fundraiser down here in South Florida. The governor was keynoting, and it was a very large
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house in a state, basically. And it was midday, late day, so people brought their kids. Now,
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predictably, the younger kids are bored out of their minds at this political fundraiser with their
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parents. And nobody could find the governor and his wife. And people started to get concerned.
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Where's the governor and his wife? They thought maybe they got sick, and they went home. Well,
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we finally found them. They were sitting in the living room, and he was playing guitar for the kids.
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And his wife was, like, reading to them. They didn't care about the high-net-worth donors outside.
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They were just grandparents. Really, really nice people. A friend of mine, a very good friend of mine,
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has traveled to Israel with Governor Huckabee. And he's just a warm, engaging, good guy,
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as I hear as Sarah Huckabee's daughter, Sarah Huckabee Sanders. And it's very, very sad that
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she had to endure these vile, vicious attacks. Now, the president wants to see an end to the
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White House Correspondents' Dinner. So does the left. The left wants to see an end to it because
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they say journalism is compromised with the White House Correspondents' Dinner. They should never be
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seen hobnobbing and socializing with those in politics they're supposed to cover. But that's not
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the real reason, right? Because when Obama was president, they never wanted to end the WHCD.
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They loved it. It was an A-list event. Obama would show up, and George Clooney would show up,
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and Steven Spielberg would show up. And it was the hottest ticket in D.C. Now it's a D-list ticket.
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Literally, Kathy Griffin was the only celebrity of note there, and she had to show my life on the D-list.
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It's a horrible event. I'd never even heard of Michelle Wolf. So this is what I mean. Like,
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liberals in D.C., Michelle Wolf was hilarious. And normal America's like,
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who the hell is Michelle Wolf? Nobody even knew who she was. I'd never heard of this woman
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before the White House Correspondents' Dinner. But she got up there with a very vile and personal
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agenda. Now, the left wants it ended, and I'll read you some excerpts from the Washington Post
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piece. The left wants it ended because it supposedly compromises their ethics. In reality,
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it's because it's become nothing. And now they're being beaten down by America. Their credibility is
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further impeached. People trust them now even less. It's really, really bad for the American
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left at this point. Well, it should be, though. They're very hateful people. Donald Trump and
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those on the right want it ended because Trump calls it embarrassing, and he wants it put to rest.
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Trump called it, quote, an embarrassment to everyone associated with it. He tweeted this,
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quote, the filthy comedian, totally bombed, put dinner to rest, dinner to rest, or start over.
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Now, that tweet from Trump came right after the organizers of the event. The White House
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Correspondents Association released a statement. This is from an NBC News story. Let me read you
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with Margaret Taleb. I guess she's one of the people who runs the association, maybe the president.
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Yeah, I guess she's the current president. I'll read you her statement, and I'll tell you why I
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think it's disingenuous, and I don't believe it for a second. Dear members, I want to tell you how
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much your kind words meant to me following my personal remarks at last night's White House
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Correspondents Dinner about the roots of my belief in journalism's essential role. I also have heard
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from members expressing dismay with the entertainer's monologue and concerns about how it reflects on our
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mission. Oliver Knox, who will take over this summer as our president, and I recognize these
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concerns and are committed to hearing from members on your views on the format of the dinner going
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forward. Last night's program was meant to offer a unifying message about our common commitment to
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a vigorous and free press while honoring civility, great reporting, and scholarship winners, not to
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divide people. Unfortunately, the entertainer's monologue was not in the spirit of that mission.
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Every day, we are working hard to advocate for our members and ensure coverage that benefits the
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public, and the dinner is an important opportunity to highlight and maintain our essential work.
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The White House Correspondents Association remains dedicated to that mission, Margaret Taleb. Now,
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I don't believe it. I don't buy it. I do not buy for one single solitary millisecond that Margaret
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Taleb and the rest of the people who run the White House Correspondents Dinner didn't have a chance to vet
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Michelle Wolf's comments in advance. I do not believe the White House Correspondents Association
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lets somebody walk up to a podium without knowing the sum and substance of what they're going to say.
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I just don't buy it, especially when there are people from the White House in the room, especially
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when international television cameras are in the room, and it's a room full of reporters.
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It's a room full of reporters, most press-heavy event in the world, literally. I don't believe for
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one second they didn't know. This, to me, is backpedaling after backlash. Now, even members
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of the media that have not been friendly to the Trump administration criticized Michelle Wolf,
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Maggie Haberman from the New York Times, possibly the harshest critic of the administration,
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that at PressSec, this is a tweet, obviously at PressSec of Sarah Huckabee Sanders, sat and absorbed
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intense criticism of her physical appearance, her job performance, and so forth, instead of walking
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out on national television, was impressive. Now, Michelle Wolf's response to that explains very
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clearly why she never would have been selected. She wrote, hey, Mags, all these jokes were about her
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despicable behavior. Sounds like you have some thoughts about her looks, though, with an emoji that
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kisses. Now, think about that. The entertainer, who's supposed to come up there and jab and pun,
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finds Sarah Huckabee Sanders' behavior in doing her job despicable. You're not going to tell me
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that the White House Correspondents Association didn't know they were hiring somebody who personally
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hated the Trump administration. Now, look, I'm all for comedy. I think Saturday Night Live became way
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too political. When something's funny, it's funny. I don't care if they're poking fun at Trump or me.
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I don't watch late night TV. Number one, because it's not the format I enjoy. Number two, because
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I do this show early, so I'm typically not up that late. But I will admit who's funny and who has
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talent. I find Jimmy Fallon a funny guy. I find him a talented guy. And Jimmy Fallon's jabs at Trump
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and some of the little skits he does in videos they ended up are really, really funny. Look, I don't
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want to live in a country where we can't criticize our president. The founding fathers wanted us to
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satirize and criticize our elected officials. So Jimmy Fallon, to me, is actually a talented guy.
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He's a funny guy. Is he a little bit left? Yeah, he is. But are his parodies of Trump,
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his impersonations, the things that Trump says that Jimmy Fallon, you know, chooses to
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mock or make jokes, are they funny? Yeah, they're really damn funny. It's funny stuff. I find myself
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laughing at it when I watch it. He's talented. That's comedy. Is it controversial? Yeah. Is it a little
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cutting edge? Yeah. Sometimes a little biting? Yeah. But it's funny. It's creative. It's clever.
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It's witty. And it's delivered in a way that's not mean-spirited. This, what Michelle Wolfe did,
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was mean-spirited. This wasn't meant to be comedy. Jimmy Fallon's is meant to be comedy. And sure,
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every comedian crosses the line. That's what comedy is. You want comedians to be social satirists
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and cross the line. But by the same token, know your audience, know your venue. Don't sit there,
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hone in on one person, and then try to degrade them that entire night because you have a visceral
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hatred of that person. That's what Michelle Wolfe did. Now, Matt and Mercedes Schlapp. Matt Schlapp
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is the president of the American Conservative Union. They run CPAC. He tweeted that he and his wife
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got up and left the dinner. They were so offended that he and his wife left. He said,
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enough of the elites mocking us all. But this is where I think the media has a fundamental
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disconnect with America. They cry and they whine and they complain that America distrusts them.
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CNN got an award, got an award at the White House Correspondent Dinner for a story they completely
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botched. They completely botched the story. It was all fake news, anonymous sources. Most of the
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story turned out to be false. It was about Comey and Russiagate and all that stuff. And they still
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got an award for the story. That's why America doesn't trust the mainstream media. They get awards
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for getting it wrong from their own who then pat each other on the back. And we all know Dan and
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got the award, not for journalism, but for going out of their way to try to take down Donald Trump.
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It's not why you should get awards. Now, Trump is calling for an end to the embarrassing dinner.
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However, the Washington Post had an editorial written by a woman named Margaret Sullivan
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for an opinion piece. And she wrote, the White House Correspondent's Dinner should be the last.
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Now, this was never said during the Obama years. Let me read you from the Washington Post piece.
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It never has been a particularly good idea for journalists to don their fanciest clothes and
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cozy up to the people they cover, alongside Hollywood celebrities who have ventured the wonky
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Washington to join the fund. But in the current era, it's become close to suicidal for the press's
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credibility. So it's not because it's skewed and one-sided and mean-spirited and maybe it needs to
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be force-corrected and be more objective. No, it's because the press is now worried about their own
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survival. Trust in the mainstream media is low. A new populism has caught fire all over the Western
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world. And President Trump constantly pounds the news media as a bunch of out-of-touch elites who
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don't represent the interests of real Americans. The annual dinner, or at least the optics of the
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dinner, seem to back him up. I agree with that. I completely agree with that. But it's not Donald
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Trump creating distrust in the media. The media is creating distrust in the media. When CNN and the
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New York Times and the Washington Post are using anonymous sources and are constantly having to correct
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themselves or being debunked by other smaller outlets who are using on-the-record sources and
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vetting their stories and adhering to the editorial process, it's the media debunking themselves. It's
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not Donald Trump doing any damage to the media. And I was surprised that Margaret Sullivan said this.
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And while Trump rarely sets a good example for anyone, his decision to hold a campaign-style
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rally in Michigan on Saturday night might be an exception. I agree with her 100%. Trump got to look like a
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man of the people. A guy who talks the language of auto workers and waitresses. Journalists whose
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purported mission it is to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted were meanwhile partying
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with their sources at the Washington Hilton in black tie. And it's true. So Donald Trump's out
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there in Michigan telling steel workers, I love putting you back to work. I want your families
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to have even more money. I want you to make more per hour. I want you to get a bigger bonus. I'm here
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with you. Screw those fake news elites in D.C. Where are the people? Ah, they're out-of-touch
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elitists. And the people in the crowd are cheering and they love Trump. In Michigan,
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by the way, where Hillary ignored that Trump was never supposed to win and won. Very smart of him
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to go there. Kick off the 2020 campaign in the states that delivered him 2016. While the other
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optic is the media elites mocking Sarah Huckabee Sanders to sit there poised and gracefully
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in tuxedos eating very expensive dinners in the Washington Hilton. So Trump also said, quote,
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why would I want to be stuck in a room with a bunch of fake news liberals who hate me?
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I mean, you know, that's exactly why he won. Exactly why he won. And this is something the
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mainstream media will never understand. Trump is there. Trump is there at, on a podium with
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blue collar Americans and the mainstream media who's created their hatred towards themselves on
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their own. Had nothing to do with Trump. All Trump's doing is saying, you're here standing at the
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rally. I'm here with you at the rally. We're talking about your families and a bunch of media
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people from the New York Times, the Washington Post to CNN and CNN are in tuxedos right now,
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eating dinner, looking down on you and mocking you. Now, somebody, Michael Calderon from Politico
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wrote, what was one of the most prestigious gigs in journalism has become a daily slog,
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meaning a White House correspondent. They're saying that really, though, because Trump gives them no
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quarter. Gone are the days of the Carter and Reagan and Clinton and Bush administrations,
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the Obama administration, when the media was either hostile and media was either hostile and
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got away with it, or it was a love fest under Obama where the media got there and patted on the head
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and they got their prescribed questions and they acted like good lapdogs and they did what they were
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told and they got invited to these parties. And whoever was the most complimentary of the Obama
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administration got a table closest to the front, more face time with Obama and his immediate staff.
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Now, Margaret Taleb, the comment I read you earlier, was, is, is the current president of the
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organization, also works with Bloomberg News, and she's outgoing and new guys coming in. She wrote,
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quote, our dinner honors the First Amendment and strong independent journalism.
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And she praised the comedian, Wolf, her Pennsylvania roots and her truth to power style. But that's not what
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happened. And as you read, he had to walk that back. And one of the other things that Wolf said
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about Sarah Huckabee Sanders, quote, she burns facts and then she uses that ash to create a perfect
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smoky eye. Maybe she's born with it. Maybe it's lies. It's probably lies. No one was laughing. No one was
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laughing. No one was laughing. And the optics of it were terrible. Now, Peter Baker, chief White House
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correspondent, the New York Times said, quote, unfortunately, I don't think we advance the cause of
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journalism. Now, end quote. If it took Michelle Wolf making a fool of herself at the White House
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cards bonnet dinner for the New York Times and Bloomberg and others to realize that journalists
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stopped advancing the cause of journalism several years ago, really decades ago, then they're never
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going to get it. If that's what it took for them to see the backlash of someone being vile and hateful
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and nasty and angry against Republicans, if that's what it took for them to see this, then they've got
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a bigger problem. Would a conservative comedian have been allowed on stage? Would a conservative
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have been allowed or even a moderate have been allowed to attack Obama like that? No. If Obama had
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been attacked like that by a conservative comedian, the dinner would have been shut down.
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So both sides want the dinner shut down for different reasons. I say no. I say no. Let the
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dinner go on. Let the media continue to do this to themselves. Literally, every minute it feels like
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there's a new content platform springing up. Outlets like The Rebel didn't exist during the Obama
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administration. At the end of it, they did. But in the heyday of it from 08 to 2012, outlets like The
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Rebel didn't exist. You were still somewhat limited in where you got your news. Fox News was the only
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kid on the block, really. And you had Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck on radio and some
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other conservative hosts. And fortunately, Glenn Beck has dwindled after his never-Trumpism. But
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you had some outlets. But now we've got all of these conservative digital outlets where we can
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then distribute this content on more mainstream platforms. And so outlets like The Rebel inform you,
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you don't need The New York Times anymore. You don't need to be held hostage by a liberal press
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and only three or four conservative options. Now you've got many. And that's what makes the
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mainstream media so unhinged. They don't want you to have many outlets. They want you to have one.
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They want, if they could have their way, they'd want state-controlled media. And we saw it in the
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WikiLeaks emails, how Politico and The New York Times and all the other liberal outlets, The Hill,
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were coordinating with the Clinton campaign, making sure that what they were saying was okay.
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They got their pat on the head. Because Hillary was elected. Queen Hillary was supposed to be
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coronated. They wanted those front tables at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. They wanted to
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make sure they didn't offend. So journalism is only supposed to be objective. The optics of
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journalism are only supposed to be we don't hang out with the subjects we cover when it's conservatives,
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when it's liberals. They clear their stories through them. So I say, let's keep the White House
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Correspondents' Dinner going. Let's keep people like Joy Ann Reed, homophobic, hateful,
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Joy Ann Reed from MSNBC. We'll be talking about her later in the week. Let's keep people like her
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on the air. Let's keep the White House Correspondents' Dinner going. Let's let the
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liberal media do what it's been doing and continue to expose itself.
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We live in a pretty dangerous world. And due to my law enforcement background, I often bring you
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stories about radical Islamic terror. And there are a few people that are my go-to resources. One of
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them is joining me now. Robert Spencer is the director of Jihad Watch. And he has a new book
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called The History of Jihad, From Muhammad to ISIS. Robert joins me now. And it's such a pleasure to
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have you on the show. I've been meaning to talk to you. We actually have a couple of really good
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personal mutual friends, and it's taken way too long to have you on. Tell me a little bit about
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the book. And then I want to get into some of the work Jihad Watch has been doing, because
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you guys are an absolute go-to resource for me as I produce the show every day. So let's talk about
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the upcoming book first, because it seems incredibly interesting. And I think a must-read for
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anybody that's interested in this subject matter, I would even encourage everybody in law enforcement
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and the military to grab a copy. They really need to understand the enemy.
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Yeah, absolutely, John. Thank you. This book is unique. There is actually no other book like it.
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People might say that about every book that comes out, but it's really true about this one.
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This is the first time in the English language that there has been a comprehensive history of
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jihad activity from the beginning, from Muhammad, right up to the present day, including not just
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the jihad against Europe, which people have written about, but the jihad against India, which is an
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incredibly bloody, horrible story that people need to know in the West and don't know. And yes,
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I think this is a book that is going to be necessary for legislators and policymakers to read,
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because it puts everything in context. People know there are problematic passages in the Quran.
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People know there are problematic things that Muhammad did, but then they think, well,
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you know, Spain was a paradise of multiculturalism, and there were periods of tolerance and peace when
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Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived together. I explode all those historical myths in this book,
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relying on chroniclers who were there, eyewitnesses, and people who were contemporaries of what happened,
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and show that this is an astonishingly consistent history all through from the beginning.
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Muslims have waged jihad against unbelievers. They're still doing it. The doctrines haven't
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changed, and people need to know this history because there is no indication now that anything
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is going to be different in the encounters of Muslims and non-Muslims today.
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Robert, you raise a really, really interesting point. When, in your opinion, you're a scholar of
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this subject matter, one of the most renowned, I would argue. When do you think the sanitization of
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history with regards to the way Muslims have treated Christians, Jews, atheists, Hindus, etc.,
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and it's interesting you bring up India. Quick digression. A few years back, I was involved in
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a deal, and two of the investors were Indian, one Hindu, one Christian, and they would rant about
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this. They would rant. It was right after 9-11, actually. This went down more than a few years ago,
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and they would rant that no one was talking about what Muslims have done in India, and if people only
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knew, the liberals in America would have a much different view of it, and I don't know if
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we'd ever convince the left in America to have a different view, but when do you think the
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sanitization of history started with regards to Islam, and this false narrative crept in that
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it's a religion of peace, that they've lived in tolerance with Jews and Christians and all other
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faiths? How far does that go back? John, you know, I actually have this in the book. It goes back about
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500 years, when Martin Luther, the founder of the Protestant understanding of Christianity,
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Christianity. He was engaged, of course, in a lot of attacks on the Pope and the Catholic Church,
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and at that time, in 1517, the Ottoman Empire, the last caliphate, was encroaching upon Europe from
00:22:33.980
the east, and was actually in Eastern Europe, and was advancing, and Martin Luther actually said,
00:22:39.900
don't go and fight the Ottomans. The Pope is even worse, and it's no good to ally with the Pope
00:22:47.160
against the Ottomans. He was just engaging in intra-Christian polemic, and I think he was
00:22:52.420
exaggerating a little bit, because later on he did agree that, yes, we need to fight and resist
00:22:57.140
the Ottomans, and there were Lutherans who joined in that, but he is the beginning of the idea that
00:23:03.260
Islam is really peaceful and nothing to worry about. That wasn't his intention, but it kept going.
00:23:08.140
The British then spread this same idea when they allied with the Ottomans in the middle of the 19th
00:23:13.240
century. To try to sell it to their people, they started to spread the idea that Islam was a
00:23:18.420
religion of peace, and then, of course, we have to mention George W. Bush right after 9-11, and I
00:23:23.620
think there's a real wallop in this book. After you read about 14 centuries of unbroken, consistent,
00:23:30.980
bloody jihad warfare, then you have George W. Bush after 9-11 going into the mosque and saying,
00:23:36.440
Islam is a religion of peace. It puts it in a context that makes it really jolting that he would
00:23:41.160
have been so detached from reality. Yeah, and what's always bothered me about that, Robert, is that
00:23:45.560
Islam, until, at least in my lifetime, unless I wasn't paying close enough attention, until George
00:23:52.500
W. Bush started coining that phrase, religion of peace, Islam never sold itself as a religion of
00:23:57.520
peace. If you go back to Malcolm X, Malcolm X sold it as a religion of discipline, a stern religion,
00:24:03.660
a religion where violence, in many respects, should be used, even on their own, but I never heard Islam
00:24:10.480
sold as a religion of peace, until George W. Bush started pushing that. I've never understood it.
00:24:15.980
Was there ever a time in history where Islam pushed that narrative?
00:24:19.180
No, actually, only now, and it's just a matter of deception in the West that it makes people put
00:24:24.520
their guard down and think that the real problem is so-called Islamophobia, but no, actually, you know,
00:24:30.620
it's funny how, John, the people would say, you're going to have Spencer on your show, and he's very
00:24:35.480
controversial. Nothing I say was ever controversial until the 1970s. All I'm saying is things that every
00:24:42.920
observer of Islam, Muslim and non-Muslim, agreed upon until the 1970s, and it was then that it became
00:24:49.940
dogmatically accepted in the West that Islam is peaceful, and if you say otherwise, then you're a
00:24:55.420
hateful, bigoted, racist, and then everybody's experience, everybody's knowledge, and even Muslims
00:25:01.600
who acknowledged that it was a religion of warfare and conquest, everybody's understanding was thrown
00:25:08.420
out that had gone before, but it's really ridiculous. Islam has not changed. Its doctrines
00:25:13.740
are the same as they've always been. It's only in the West we've now become afraid of telling the
00:25:19.120
You know, Robert, it's, like I said earlier, and when I introed you, it's a travesty that I
00:25:24.680
haven't had you on earlier. We haven't spoken earlier because just ideologically aligned, but
00:25:29.200
I suffered as well, right? I come out of NYPD, and I built my brand on law enforcement, and when I
00:25:34.200
went after groups like Black Lives Matter, and what I tell you, using nothing other than FBI and U.S.
00:25:40.660
census data crime statistics, I've been suspended from Twitter. I've been called a racist. I've been
00:25:46.260
called a xenophobe. I mean, I have been, I'm a robe-wearing member of the Klan. I mean, literally for
00:25:52.020
posting graphics of the FBI UCR reconciled against U.S. census data and certain census tracts in Chicago
00:25:58.560
outlining black-on-black crime, the things I've been called the death threats I've received. So
00:26:03.160
those of us who use data and historical reference points somehow in the last 20 years have become
00:26:12.340
the fringe. Data and science is now the fringe. Emotional knee-jerk rhetoric is now mainstream,
00:26:18.900
Yeah, absolutely. As Pamela Geller says, truth is the new hate speech.
00:26:22.740
So, you know, I'm listening to what you're saying, and I think, yeah, welcome to my world. All I've
00:26:28.580
done is quote the Koran, quote Muhammad, outline what they say about Muhammad in the earliest Islamic
00:26:34.020
texts, and now it's laid out the Islamic history, and all of these things become hateful when I say
00:26:40.080
them. You know, it's a funny thing. The Organization of Islamic Cooperation is 57 Muslim governments, and
00:26:45.800
they are obviously committed to Islam. And when somebody quotes the Koran who's an imam saying,
00:26:52.020
kill them wherever you find them, that's fine. But if I quote the imam saying, look, he said,
00:26:56.220
kill them wherever you find them, then the OIC will put that on its hate list and say it's
00:27:00.640
Islamophobia, when it's the same thing that the imam said. But it's no good for non-Muslims to notice
00:27:06.440
that these things are being said in mosques in the West.
00:27:09.480
You know, one of my biggest regrets in life is that I haven't yet made the Southern Poverty Law
00:27:13.060
Center's hate list, because I really respect and admire so many people on that list. I just,
00:27:18.180
I feel like I haven't, but you know, we can joke about it. But the reality is the people that are
00:27:22.620
placed on these lists are outstanding go-to sources. I mean, sure, there are some real hate
00:27:28.540
mongers on those lists, but many of those names are people who simply do exactly what you say.
00:27:32.660
They literally excerpt a passage from the Koran verbatim. They put it into a tweet, a Facebook post,
00:27:38.040
or in a book where they, where they, you know, write some context around it. And that's somehow
00:27:43.920
now hateful. But what do we do? What do we do? You've been in this fight a long time. You're one
00:27:48.500
of the early guys calling attention to this long before many other people were even aware it was
00:27:53.640
going on. How do we change the hearts and minds of Americans to show them that there actually is a
00:27:59.060
threat from Islam, not just radical Islam, but that left to their own devices, mosques around this
00:28:04.780
country. Look, quick digression before you answer. As I dig into this, we had an immediate situation
00:28:10.320
down here in Broward County, Florida, obviously the Parkland tragedy. I've been looking at Nizar
00:28:15.180
Hamza, one of Scott Israel's deputies for a long time. This guy has ties to all kinds of bad guy groups.
00:28:22.340
Joe Kaufman is on the ground down here in South Florida. I have him on the show often. He gives me a
00:28:26.860
lot of detail into what's going on. But if we dare talk about that, we dare talk about that we're
00:28:32.040
vilified. I've been vilified by conservatives in the Broward County Sheriff's Office saying you've
00:28:37.060
got it all wrong. They've been snowed. What do we do here, Robert? How do we start changing hearts
00:28:42.740
and minds to show people that that mosque that propped them in a house on the corner has some
00:28:47.920
pretty nefarious tides? It's not just people going to worship in the afternoon.
00:28:52.680
Well, I have every confidence, actually, John, that the tide is turning. All we have to do is keep
00:28:57.080
telling the truth, because the truth is just reality. And reality is ultimately going to be
00:29:01.640
obvious to everyone. You cannot deny it forever. And the thing about this Islam is a religion of
00:29:06.780
peace business, and we have nothing to worry about from these mosques, and care has no links to Hamas
00:29:11.560
and the Muslim Brotherhood and all the other things that people take for granted nowadays. The thing is,
00:29:15.980
they're so contrary to fact that they're refuted every day by the day's headlines, by people who are
00:29:21.720
just, if people are just being alert to what's going on in the world, they will, it will dawn upon
00:29:27.180
them that there is a really big problem with Islam that needs to be addressed. And so I think that the
00:29:33.240
reason why we keep hearing this Islam is a religion of peace business is because that's the only way
00:29:37.700
that propaganda succeeds. That's the only way the big lie is ever accepted by people, by constant
00:29:43.340
repetition. They keep having to tell us that Islam is a religion of peace because it so obviously isn't.
00:29:48.200
And so all we have to do is continue to hold fast to reality, continue to stand fast and tell the
00:29:54.420
truth. And there's no way we can lose. The truth will always be victorious in the end.
00:29:59.560
Right. But you'll keep saying it, and I'll keep saying it, and outlets like The Rebel and other
00:30:04.280
similar outlets, our colleagues, our competitors will keep saying it. But what do you think the tipping
00:30:09.460
point is for the mainstream media to do a story? Because look, I'm an evidence-based guy,
00:30:14.300
right? I was an investigator. When I look at care, one of the things that's
00:30:18.200
strikes me isn't their affiliations. I expect their affiliations. It's how easy it is to make
00:30:24.540
those connections. It's how easy it is to put up a chart on a wall, literally, and show
00:30:28.980
CARES direct links to some pretty violent actors, some pretty radical actors. The mainstream media
00:30:35.000
can easily do this. An outlet like CNN, even Fox News is reluctant to do this to the degree they
00:30:40.260
should. They've got the staffs. They've got the resources. What is going to be the tipping
00:30:44.620
point, in your opinion, for the mainstream media to finally say, okay, and put up those
00:30:48.940
same charts for the group like here and their connections as we're doing?
00:30:53.200
I don't know that there'll ever be one, John. They're ideologically committed. They get a lot
00:30:57.580
of money from people like Albalib bin Talal, the multi-billionaire Saudi investor who has a
00:31:03.320
percentage of Fox, a percentage of many American universities. They're never going to acknowledge
00:31:09.480
what their paymaster wants them to ignore. But the thing is, is that their credibility is being so
00:31:15.340
widely challenged nowadays. And people, more and more people every day are waking up to the fact
00:31:20.540
that from the establishment media, you're just not getting the whole truth. And they're turning it off,
00:31:25.700
going to the internet, finding the rebel, finding other sources where they can find the truth.
00:31:30.940
And so I don't, you know, I'm not waiting for CNN to start telling the truth about the jihad threat.
00:31:37.080
I'm just watching as people, more and more people realize that CNN is not telling you the truth.
00:31:43.220
I, you know, I travel all the time. Every week, practically, I'm in an airport. And for years,
00:31:48.360
every time I would see a TV in the airports, they would be tuned to CNN. And increasingly,
00:31:54.800
they are on Fox or other networks. And CNN has lost the aura it had of being an accurate news source.
00:32:02.460
And that's going to happen to all of them. It's already happened.
00:32:04.420
You know, Robert, one of the things I wish could happen, and I'm the, I'm the world's biggest
00:32:08.520
proponent of operational security, but one of the most effective programs, I'm sure you know
00:32:13.000
all about it more than most, that was ended to a degree was the confidential mosque informing
00:32:18.100
program in the NYPD. It yielded treasure troves of actionable intelligence. Very good friend of
00:32:23.480
mine was one of the supervisors on the program. And I had the good fortune of working with it a little
00:32:27.980
bit. I wish some of that could be declassified. So the general public could see just how many
00:32:34.480
threats the NYPD alone received that were valid and actionable. I think that would change would
00:32:42.080
start to change a lot of minds. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And that's the reason why Bill de Blasio,
00:32:46.800
who owes a great deal of his support to the Muslim communities in New York City,
00:32:52.340
is keeping it secret. He doesn't want these things out. And probably as long as he's the mayor,
00:32:57.680
they're not going to come out. Because he, after all, is responsible for halting that program,
00:33:02.480
which was highly effective, under pressure from those same Islamic advocacy groups.
00:33:07.080
So if he lets that out, it's he who's going to look the worst. So once we get a new mayor there,
00:33:12.180
I think then we might see some things starting to change.
00:33:14.700
No, I agree. And one of the biggest PR faux pas in the history of the NYPD, when they were defending
00:33:20.500
that program is, most people don't realize this, that program didn't have a religious test.
00:33:25.200
We were looking for people from certain nations. Their religious affiliation wasn't even known
00:33:31.880
until after they were interviewed. And there were plenty of Christians. There were plenty of
00:33:36.100
non-denominationals from those nations who had actionable intelligence on what was going on
00:33:41.440
in the Muslim community. But they were living in the same community as a matter of nationality.
00:33:45.480
There was no religious test on that. And it yielded such incredible, actionable intelligence.
00:33:49.540
We saw this with the Brooklyn College incident. We have that cop who was able to infiltrate a cell
00:33:55.520
in Brooklyn College. And I'm sure you're familiar with it. And she was vilified for doing so.
00:34:01.200
Even though she put two people in jail that wanted to bomb New York City,
00:34:04.140
she was still vilified for daring to actually enforce the law.
00:34:08.520
It's always the same, John. Islamophobia is the big problem. And the foes of jihad terror
00:34:15.000
are the enemy. This is the mainstream media view. They don't enunciate it explicitly,
00:34:21.880
but they always act upon it. This is the prevailing view in the nation's universities.
00:34:26.160
Whenever I speak at a college or university, it's as if Jack the Ripper is coming to campus.
00:34:30.820
There are protests and petitions and calls for me to be canceled and all sorts of uproar.
00:34:36.080
But I guarantee you that in those same universities, if a Guantanamo inmate showed up and started
00:34:41.660
screaming death to America in the middle of campus, it'd be celebrated as a hero. And so
00:34:46.080
what happened to her doesn't surprise me at all. It happens to everyone across the board
00:34:50.120
who dares to stand up against this threat. Well, no, look, listen, and what you're saying
00:34:54.160
isn't a hypothetical. Linda Sarsour literally has the red carpet rolled out. If you or Ben Shapiro
00:34:58.840
show up, there are SWAT teams. Yes. It's ridiculous. And Linda Sarsour,
00:35:03.120
we now know, was instrumental in crafting Bill de Blasio and the NYPD's new policy on the enforcement
00:35:11.060
of radical Islam. Linda Sarsour, a lot of people don't know this, was instrumental in crafting NYPD
00:35:16.760
policy. Robert, some days I ask, what planet do we live on? Yeah, absolutely. Because this is
00:35:22.280
somebody who's openly pro-Sharia, who has said that, who has excused jihad terrorists, who has ties to
00:35:30.000
Hamas, which is a jihad terror group. And she is working closely with de Blasio and the New York
00:35:36.320
City authorities to make sure that Muslim communities aren't discriminated against, by which she means
00:35:42.040
that they are not examined for any ties to terrorism. This is a pro, this is a policy,
00:35:48.600
this is an activity that is literally going to blow up in their faces.
00:35:52.100
Okay, last question for you. I was running out of time. If the president called you into the Oval
00:35:57.420
Office tomorrow and asked you a solution for Syria, what would you tell him?
00:36:00.680
I would tell him, get out and contain the problem that don't let the jihadis from there spread out
00:36:06.700
to other parts of the world, including and especially the United States. But there are no good guys there.
00:36:12.500
To take out Assad is to aid the Muslim Brotherhood. And to leave Assad there is to aid Iran. And so there's
00:36:20.980
no solution. What we should just be trying to do is protect our allies and protect American interests
00:36:27.840
in the region. But we don't need to be engaging in any more of this feudal nation building that was
00:36:33.680
so spectacularly a failure in Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:36:36.640
I can't, I can't disagree with you. The book is The History of Jihad from Muhammad to ISIS.
00:36:42.900
It's going to be out in July and it's available now for pre-order at amazon.com.
00:36:47.840
Outstanding. Robert Spencer, director of Jihad Watch, author of The History of Jihad from
00:36:52.820
Muhammad to ISIS. Like I said, been way too long. Should have had you on much, much sooner.
00:37:00.760
Just when you think liberals and academia could not become any more ridiculous, along comes
00:37:18.480
this, I don't even know what to call it, opinion piece study suggestion from the University of
00:37:25.780
Texas' Division of Student Affairs Counseling and Mental Health Center. An article, I guess
00:37:31.820
we'll call it, entitled, What is Restrictive Masculinity? Yes. According to the University
00:37:38.240
of Texas Counseling and Mental Health Center, masculinity is now some kind of either psychological
00:37:46.400
or personality disorder. It is one of the most bizarre things I've ever read in my life.
00:37:53.260
You can see the graphics on the screen here during the segment. Let me read you some excerpts
00:37:58.520
from this because it really is that good. What is restrictive masculinity? Voices against
00:38:04.960
violence. Now, there's a lot on this page. So it's University of Texas at Austin Counseling
00:38:09.580
and Mental Health Center. The top of the page says Division of Student Affairs. And there's
00:38:14.140
a group called Voices Against Violence at the University of Texas, which is part of the Counseling
00:38:20.460
and Mental Health Center. What is restrictive masculinity? Now, Voices Against Violence is
00:38:25.940
called VAV. VAV imagines a campus where compassion, understanding, empathy, inclusion, and respect are
00:38:33.960
guiding values for students to develop their own sense of masculine identity. Healthy masculinities
00:38:41.560
include many behaviors rather than one singular idea of masculinity. The masculine man in me already
00:38:50.080
wants to punch somebody in the face for this article. However, the reality many young men on campus
00:38:57.120
face is to act like a man as if there was only one true way. For example, restrictive notions of
00:39:05.280
masculinity, imagine a single rigid identity that emphasizes aggression, competition with men,
00:39:11.900
devaluation of women. No, that's wrong. In no definition of masculinity is devaluation of women
00:39:19.140
an element. In fact, it's to protect women, to provide for women, to care for women, to provide food and
00:39:27.800
shelter for women. The devaluation of women throughout. And a few tools and few tools to
00:39:34.940
develop communication skills or emotional maturity. Well, I don't know. I make a pretty decent living
00:39:40.420
communicating on air every day. And I think I'm a pretty mature guy. I was entrusted with a gun and a
00:39:46.800
badge and the ability to take people's freedoms away. If I applied the law in a capricious manner at a
00:39:52.800
pretty young age, I think I was pretty mature. And my lack of complaints and history of commendations
00:39:58.220
by the NYPD sort of reinforces that, that I was mature and responsible as a man. So I don't know
00:40:06.560
where they're getting this. Some guy named Paul Kival, an educator and an activist, developed the act
00:40:13.940
like a man box. This is great. And you can see the, you're seeing the graphic now. The act like a man
00:40:20.200
box, which illustrates how traditional ideas of masculinity. And normally I don't read you word
00:40:25.860
for word from an article, but this is so good. I have to, uh, into how, which illustrates that
00:40:31.760
traditional ideas of masculinity place men into rigid or restrictive boxes that pressure men and
00:40:38.420
masculine identified individuals. So it's not just men. Now, if you're transgender, but identify as a man
00:40:44.500
and want to act like a traditional man, they also don't like you. If that didn't confuse you,
00:40:49.260
I don't know what will. Masculine identified individuals to emulate this ideal and prevent
00:40:54.680
them from developing their own emotional maturity. He says, men are. This is what, this is what beta
00:41:02.480
male Paul Kival thinks a man who acts like a man thinks a man should be. He couldn't be wrong,
00:41:09.000
wrong, more wrong. Let me tell you where he's right. Let me tell you where he's wrong. Men are
00:41:11.860
breadwinners. Yes. Violent. No. Mean. No. Bullies. No. Tough. Could be. Angry. I'm a pretty happy guy.
00:41:21.460
Active. Yes. Strong. Yes. Successful. You should be. In control. Could be. Over women. Well, no.
00:41:28.980
I love women. Most men do. You protect them and take care of them. Men. I'll go through the feelings
00:41:39.160
in the middle second, but men have no emotion. No. Stand up for themselves. Yes. Yell at people.
00:41:45.640
If warranted, can take it. Absolutely. Don't make mistakes. Absolutely not. I make a million mistakes.
00:41:52.500
You don't know how many times I fumble on air and my editors have to correct it
00:41:55.380
and edit the show to bring you a seamless product. We all make mistakes in life. We're human.
00:42:00.880
Don't cry. Look, I've never been a real crier. I did cry when my dog died. I love animals. So,
00:42:07.280
yeah, that, I was pretty broken up over that. Take charge. Yeah, men should take charge. Push
00:42:12.200
people around. No. In fact, men will stand up to those who push people around. Men will stand up to
00:42:17.740
violent, mean, angry bullies. This is a weird one. Know about sex. Know about
00:42:25.380
sex. Well, I hope if you're over like 15 or 14 or whatever, kind of know a little something about
00:42:30.700
the birds and the bees. I don't even understand what that guy's talking about. Men don't back
00:42:36.060
down. I agree. Men take care of people. Absolutely. Why is that a negative? Feelings. I don't even
00:42:42.700
understand how this fits in. Confused, angry, scared, ashamed, alone, stupid, powerless, vulnerable,
00:42:48.200
revenge, hopeless, worthless. What I really think is going on here is Paul Kival developed a box
00:42:54.220
that essentially outlined his own conflicted self because I don't know any guy that would fit into
00:43:01.500
this box. Seriously. Some of my friends are the most sensitive people you will meet who,
00:43:08.500
if they look at a pic of their own kids today, love their children so much they'll break down in tears,
00:43:12.720
but made millions on Wall Street. They were absolute sharks in business, but to their wife and children,
00:43:19.720
they are the most gentle, soft-spoken, overcome with emotion person to their family.
00:43:26.220
I don't know the weirdos he's talking about. I have no idea. In fact, my friends, the men I know,
00:43:33.660
I mean, there's exceptions in every rule, but many of them are family men who adore their families,
00:43:37.200
who their wives are equal partners in everything. In fact, one of my friends' wife rules the ruse.
00:43:44.240
They have one of the best relationships I've ever seen. They butt heads. They're both very strong
00:43:47.600
personalities. They're like this. They get along, but then they butt heads and they argue.
00:43:52.260
I don't know what this guy's talking about. Patterns of restrictive masculinity. Let's read a
00:44:00.420
copy. Unhealthy masculinity can restrict the emotional development of students. I'm just
00:44:05.480
reading through these at random. Oh, oh, yes. Unhealthy masculinity, restrictive masculinity will lead
00:44:12.000
to sexual assault and other forms of abuse and violence. And it's often ignored or condoned by
00:44:17.980
believing that boys will be boys. Really? I arrested plenty of men for sexually abusing women. And
00:44:24.520
few criminals made me happier to slap handcuffs on them, except the sexual abuses of children. Those
00:44:31.020
were the only ones who edged out those who sexually abuse women. Yeah. And both were just as vile.
00:44:36.280
But I had a special place in my heart for pedophiles. It was a special place in hell for them
00:44:42.040
with adult rapists coming in a tick, tick behind. Believe me, they got no, they got no quarter from
00:44:50.700
me. Unhealthy masculinity works by excluding students who are judged not to measure up the
00:44:55.860
values of real men. No, Kival, that's the animal kingdom. That's what we are as creatures on this
00:45:03.760
earth. The big lion gets to take over the pride. Okay. The craftier fox gets the food for the pups
00:45:12.740
in the den. If you're bigger, stronger, or smarter, you'll win. The more competitive, you're more
00:45:19.020
competitive, you'll win. To prove who is a real man means proving who is not a real man. I just think
00:45:24.660
this guy was bullied and picked last for dodgeball. Unhealthy masculinity works to exclude any femininity
00:45:30.500
from a masculine identity. It'd be excluded anyway. I'm a traditional guy. Emotion is not
00:45:37.420
femininity. Having a woman go get the car for you in the rain or hold the umbrella and the door for
00:45:43.320
you when it's pouring. Yeah, that's femininity and it shouldn't happen. In other words, man up,
00:45:48.600
despite what this moron tells you. Now we go through some myths. This is great. Myth. Men have
00:45:53.900
uncontrollable sexuality. No man has ever said that. Yes, it is a myth. But only this weirdo freak
00:46:00.640
would think that men would believe that. Myth. Men should be fiercely independent. Well, a man should
00:46:07.600
be independent. A man should be able to go out there and without help from anyone else, provide for
00:46:13.640
himself and the people he cares about. That's the definition of a man. That's how we've evolved.
00:46:19.540
That's how we were created. That's in our DNA. Myth. Men are naturally aggressive because emotions
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are restricted. No. Men are naturally aggressive because we're the species that's supposed to
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protect women and children. Masculinity is only heterosexual. Now this one, very confusing. Let me
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read you the whole thing. Often, masculinity has to be proven through heterosexual relationships.
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It may create pressure in men to have a heterosexual relationship and create anxiety if this is not the
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case. This marginalizes male students who are a part of the LGBT community as well as female students
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who wish to identify as masculine. That's kind of dumb because I have a couple of gay friends.
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One was a cop. One was in the military. And you wouldn't even know they were gay. It's not an affront to
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the LGBT communities of masculine guys who put themselves in harm's way, who just happen to be
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attracted to the same sex. So wrong again, Paul. Masculinity is the opposite of femininity.
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It's not a myth. That is a factually and scientifically accurate statement that this
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moron is calling a myth. Now, it goes on and on and on. And then there's a whole gender and
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sexuality chart with rainbows and different color hearts and mitochondrial DNA strands. And oh, it'll
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make your head hurt. But let it suffice to say that the University of Texas just contorted itself
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to prove that men shouldn't act like men. This further goes to the feminization of men and really
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the downfall of society if we let this happen. I encourage you to read this. I encourage you to
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read it. You'll be able to get the URL in this segment. We'll put it up. If not,
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I'm going to put this out on my Twitter at John Cardillo. And I encourage you to mock this as
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relentlessly as possible and share that mockery far and wide.
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So it's not enough that James Comey is embarrassing himself more and more in each
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interview. It's not enough that he's been criminally referred to the Department of
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Justice for prosecution for, of course, leaking classified FBI information to his friend,
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a Columbia professor who we found out was also a special government employee on the FBI payroll,
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35,000 employees at the FBI. They couldn't find somebody to do a job that Comey's friend couldn't
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do. So his buddy got special status. So he's been criminally referred by 11 members of Congress for
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leaking classified information. He's under investigation by the Department of Justice,
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Officer Inspector General, Officer Inspector General. We fully expect another criminal referral on that.
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He's making a fool out of himself night and day, has painted himself as a horrible liar,
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contradicted his own statements. And now Washington Examiner story here. James Comey calls
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House Intel report clearing Trump in Russian election meddling, quote, a political document.
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Hearing James Comey, who admitted while on his book tour on multiple media outlets that the reason
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he chose not to send Hillary's case to the DOJ for grand jury referral was because it was a
00:49:34.040
politically charged case. And if Loretta Lynch didn't send it to a grand jury, she would be
00:49:40.080
irreparably damaged. Everything he did was through the lens of politics. The irony in him saying that
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the House Intel Committee is acting politically. So he says he calls it a political document. And he says,
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quote, about the report, that is not my understanding of what the facts are, meaning no collusion with
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Russia. That is not my understanding of what the facts were before I left the FBI. And I think the
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most important piece of work is the one the special counsel is doing now, end quote. Now we know that
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Comey leaked these documents. We know that Comey leaked information about the dossier to, as the catalyst
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for a special counsel. This is a do over for Comey. He's a disgruntled fired guy who's making a fool of
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himself. Now, the House Intel Committee wrote an exhaustive 250 or 250 pages, give or take about
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15, 20 pages. I forget the exact numbers in the 240s and 260s. Very comprehensive report on the
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investigation into Russian interference in the election. We know they meddled. Russians meddle in
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elections. Meddling is not collusion. It's not collusion. Why rob a bank? It doesn't mean the bank
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manager was in on it with me. Two separate issues. Russia stepped into our election. Too many people
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are confusing that with them being in cahoots with the Trump campaign when they did it. That's not been
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proven. In fact, it's been disproven. Mueller's now over a year hasn't been able to prove a thing. So that
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tells me one of two things. There was no collusion, which is what I firmly 110% believe, where Mueller has the
00:51:12.340
worst investigators in the history of law enforcement, which I don't believe because he's got some very
00:51:16.260
talented people on his team, albeit very biased people. So you've got very talented and biased
00:51:21.240
people who still can't find anything on Trump because there's nothing there. So Comey is, of
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course, you know, out there ranting and raving and acting like a little baby, a crybaby. And he says
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that politicization has, quote, wrecked the committee and it damaged relationships of the FISA court,
00:51:38.980
the intelligence communities. It's just a wreck, end quote. No, Comey, you did that. Your bias did that.
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Andrew McCabe's bias did that. Loretta Lynch's bias did that. Eric Holder's bias did that.
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John Brennan's bias did that. Peter Stroke's bias did that. Lisa Page's bias did that.
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Should I keep going? Hillary Clinton's bias did that. Not wrecked the relationship with the FISA
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court. The House Intel Committee has acted honorably and comprehensively. Now, you could say, well,
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Cardillo, you're a partisan. You're not objective. You're a partisan. But it's not me saying it.
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Because when a Republican-run House Oversight Committee cleared Hillary Clinton of wrongdoing
00:52:15.980
in Benghazi, the left, James Comey's allies, were out there saying, Republicans in Congress
00:52:22.040
on a Republican-led committee cleared Hillary of wrongdoing in Benghazi. That's the final word.
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That was an honorable committee that did its job honorably, that did its job comprehensively.
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There's nothing there, conservatives. Even Republicans in the House cleared Hillary.
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But when many of those same Republicans cleared Donald Trump of Russia collusion,
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now all of a sudden, Republicans in the House are tarnished and tainted and they've
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wrecked the committee and it's politicized. Comey and the left sound like absolute morons.
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They sound like absolute morons. Look, this is all complete hysteria, fear,
00:52:58.200
because their House of Cards is crumbling. Their House of Cards is crumbling and it's going to come
00:53:03.600
crashing down on top of them. I predict, when I look at all of this, I am going to start
00:53:09.480
easing back from my criticisms of Attorney General Jeff Sessions. I'm hearing some rumblings.
00:53:17.560
I'm watching the recommendations by OIG for Andrew McCabe's prosecution. I'm watching OIG investigate
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James Comey and many others. I'm starting to put some puzzle pieces together, but I haven't vetted
00:53:33.440
them and I don't have sources that I can bring you yet. So I'm not even going to tell you my
00:53:37.860
speculation except to say I'm easing up on my criticism of Jeff Sessions and I'm becoming
00:53:43.760
and I'll bring you more as I get more. I don't want to bring you something that I'm not a hundred
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percent convinced of, that I can't vet, that my editors can't vet. But just my own personal opinion
00:53:56.260
from what I'm seeing, what I'm piecing together, what I'm hearing through the lens of experience,
00:54:00.720
I'm becoming slightly cautiously optimistic that some very bad actors might actually face justice for
00:54:11.120
what they've done. And of course, I will bring you those stories as soon as more information,
00:54:17.160
more valid sources, more information becomes available. But one thing is sure now, James Comey
00:54:22.400
is on a backpedaling. He's trying to protect himself, trying to cover his own ass because
00:54:27.140
he does not want to be prosecuted for what appears to be highly illegal leaks. Even Trey Gowdy has said
00:54:34.060
that James Comey's definition of a leak is everyone else's definition of a felony. I rarely agree with
00:54:40.740
Trey Gowdy these days, but I'll tell you what, on this one, I do. I think James Comey broke the law
00:54:45.520
and I think James Comey needs to be prosecuted. Same time, General Flynn's plea is vacated. His
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charge is dismissed with prejudice. James Comey took FBI work product, smuggled it out of the FBI,
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leaked it to an uncleared person who leaked it to the New York Times. That is the very definition
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of a crime and James Comey. That case to be placed before a grand jury and James Comey prosecuted