Rebel News Podcast - Off The Cuff Declassified： IG report, Clinton emails, Kurt Schlichter, Censoring the migrant crisis

00:00:00.000 Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, we're talking the Inspector General's report

00:00:04.320 and all of the problems with what looks like to be a cover-up.

00:00:09.860 Kurt Schlichter joins me to wrap up the week,

00:00:12.120 and Robert Spencer is with me to discuss the latest happening in Gaza between Hamas and Israel.

00:00:23.240 The long-awaited Department of Justice Inspector General report dropped yesterday,

00:00:27.540 and it was absolutely as lackluster and disappointing as I thought it would be.

00:00:33.960 The report does nothing but say, well, maybe people broke some FBI rules.

00:00:40.680 Now, I want to make it seem like that's not the case,

00:00:43.740 but I'm telling you, as somebody who was in law enforcement,

00:00:46.760 alongside law enforcement and covering law enforcement for 25 years,

00:00:50.340 this was a whitewash.

00:00:52.020 This smells to me of a cover-up.

00:00:55.200 Let me put it in perspective.

00:00:57.880 This report basically said, well, people did some things wrong,

00:01:00.680 and yeah, we're going to refer them back to the FBI for internal investigation.

00:01:05.780 They may have inappropriately texted some things that may have seemed biased.

00:01:11.200 But in reality, there wasn't one criminal referral.

00:01:15.340 Nobody would be held to task.

00:01:16.640 And they didn't even, they didn't even have the decency to ever published the final report.

00:01:24.500 Because remember, many conservatives, myself included, were concerned this report was held back for a while

00:01:29.140 after Inspector General Horowitz completed his investigation.

00:01:33.640 Now, he's an Obama appointee and an old friend of James Comey.

00:01:36.980 I'm not saying I've got tremendous faith in that guy either.

00:01:39.480 But why did the DOJ sit on this report?

00:01:43.240 Why didn't the pure, unfiltered, raw report come out immediately?

00:01:48.540 Begs, that begs many questions.

00:01:50.760 Now, we're going to get in a moment into Christopher Wray, the FBI director's embarrassingly,

00:01:55.680 embarrassingly weak press conference.

00:01:57.700 He should be replaced this morning.

00:01:58.860 But let's talk about this report.

00:02:01.200 Now, many, many things in this report.

00:02:02.840 And we're going to run through them.

00:02:04.440 And I'm going to run through, I made a list of them.

00:02:05.900 So I'm going to be looking at my screen a lot, telling you certain things that jumped out in the report that I and others found.

00:02:11.620 But one of the things that really leapt out at me and many others with regards to this report

00:02:18.280 were the texts, those newly discovered texts that the OIG had, that DOJ had,

00:02:26.740 were never given a Congress between Peter Stroke and Lisa Page.

00:02:32.040 I don't understand in any way, shape, or form how the inspector general could have read these texts

00:02:39.600 and concluded that there was no political bias on the part of the FBI.

00:02:45.040 And of course, the text I'm talking about is the following.

00:02:47.840 If you haven't read it, hope you're sitting down.

00:02:49.960 Lisa Page, the FBI lawyer, texted Peter Stroke, one of Mueller's senior investigators,

00:02:57.360 a senior counterterrorism agent at the FBI, the agent who interviewed Michael Flynn, General Flynn,

00:03:02.520 and I believe framed him.

00:03:04.700 Lisa Page texted, quote,

00:03:06.720 Trump's not ever going to become president, right?

00:03:09.680 Right?

00:03:10.040 And Peter Stroke responded, no, no, he won't.

00:03:16.060 We'll stop it.

00:03:18.400 No, no, he won't.

00:03:21.200 We'll stop it.

00:03:24.080 Now, despite that, despite that, Horowitz's report found that Peter Stroke and Lisa Page's political views

00:03:34.980 did not influence their work.

00:03:39.340 Who in the world would believe that?

00:03:42.460 This is beyond bad.

00:03:44.440 This is beyond whitewashing.

00:03:46.540 Now, many people, many conservatives out there on Twitter, most notably Robbie Starbuck.

00:03:52.320 Robbie's a really good guy.

00:03:53.620 He's an interesting character.

00:03:55.580 He's a very successful music video producer in Hollywood who's a friend of mine.

00:04:00.620 He's also very, very conservative.

00:04:03.240 Big Trump supporter.

00:04:04.080 The president retweeted him last week.

00:04:05.940 He's an anomaly in Hollywood, but he's a talented enough guy and established enough in the industry

00:04:09.720 where he doesn't, he's not affected by his politics.

00:04:13.760 So he and many others, and I'm going to go through some of their tweets and read you some of the things they found.

00:04:19.140 But many of the things that we were all finding were the text messages.

00:04:24.260 Let me read you.

00:04:25.480 This is from Robbie's feed.

00:04:26.680 I'm going to read you the different things that people found on their feeds, many of the things I found.

00:04:30.560 Here are some more texts that hadn't been publicized from Page and Stroke from Lisa Page.

00:04:38.700 Trump barely spoke.

00:04:39.880 Now, remember, I'm reading these to you because I want you to remember that the inspector general

00:04:44.180 found that Peter Stroke and Lisa Page did not let their political views and their political bias influence their work.

00:04:53.820 Lisa Page, quote, Trump barely spoke.

00:04:56.720 The first thing out of his mouth was, quote, we're going to win so big.

00:05:00.460 The whole thing is like living in a bad dream. 1.00

00:05:02.800 Stroke, Trump is a disaster. 0.97

00:05:05.160 I have no idea how destabilizing his presidency would be. 0.98

00:05:09.260 Stroke, just went to a Southern Virginia Walmart.

00:05:11.640 I could smell the Trump support.

00:05:15.820 Page, Lisa Page.

00:05:18.940 The New York Times probability numbers are dropping every day.

00:05:22.100 I'm scared for our organization. 0.99

00:05:25.920 Stroke, Jill Stein and moron Gary Johnson are effing everything up, too. 1.00

00:05:32.160 Page, Lisa Page. 1.00

00:05:33.420 I bought all the president's men.

00:05:34.920 Figure I needed to brush up on Watergate.

00:05:36.780 I just, I am beside myself.

00:05:42.820 I am absolutely beside myself.

00:05:46.320 Now, an agent that was not identified, because there are many, many damning communications in the inspector general's report with people listed as FBI employee, in this case, agent number five. 0.98

00:05:58.160 Agent number five, quote, I would rather have brunch with Trump and a bunch of his supporters like the ones from Ohio that are retarded. 0.99

00:06:07.540 These are FBI employees. 0.98

00:06:10.160 Another FBI employee.

00:06:11.780 Number one.

00:06:12.960 I mean, I never really liked the Republic anyway.

00:06:16.420 FBI employee two said, I mean, I never really liked the Republic anyway.

00:06:21.700 As I have initiated the destruction of the Republic, would you be so kind as to have coffee with me this afternoon?

00:06:29.560 Now, you've seen these, but they were in the report again.

00:06:31.660 After Hillary Clinton lost.

00:06:33.920 FBI attorney two.

00:06:35.140 I am numb.

00:06:36.600 FBI employee.

00:06:37.660 I can't stop crying.

00:06:39.300 FBI attorney two.

00:06:40.460 That makes me even more sad.

00:06:42.620 FBI employee.

00:06:44.000 Like, what happened?

00:06:45.800 FBI employee.

00:06:47.440 You promised me this wouldn't happen.

00:06:49.840 You promised.

00:06:53.020 About Trump winning the election.

00:06:55.560 This is the FBI.

00:06:59.220 This is the FBI.

00:07:02.060 Senior, senior people.

00:07:04.720 Senior people.

00:07:07.180 I read this.

00:07:08.460 It was 500 and something pages reading it.

00:07:11.880 Now, this is really interesting.

00:07:14.760 This is really, really interesting.

00:07:16.280 500 pages reading it was like, I couldn't believe this was happening.

00:07:20.140 Inside our FBI.

00:07:21.760 Inside our DOJ.

00:07:24.740 This is an FBI agent working on the Clinton investigation.

00:07:28.800 Responding to some questions.

00:07:30.680 From another FBI agent.

00:07:32.680 About witnesses.

00:07:34.800 On behalf of Hillary Clinton.

00:07:36.800 Or witnesses who had material information on Hillary Clinton.

00:07:40.460 Coming in.

00:07:42.180 And this witness.

00:07:43.900 So, here.

00:07:44.680 This is from the report.

00:07:45.880 Let me read it to you.

00:07:46.780 In another exchange.

00:07:47.860 On February 4th, 2016.

00:07:49.660 Agent 1.

00:07:50.400 And an FBI employee.

00:07:51.600 Who was not assigned.

00:07:53.180 To the mid-year investigation.

00:07:54.500 Mid-year.

00:07:55.360 Mid-year exam.

00:07:56.480 Was the code name.

00:07:57.100 For the Hillary Clinton investigation.

00:07:58.780 Discussed Agent 1's interview.

00:08:01.280 With a witness.

00:08:01.820 Who assisted the Clintons.

00:08:02.960 At the Chappaqua residence.

00:08:04.560 Part of this exchange.

00:08:06.100 Follows.

00:08:07.120 FBI employee.

00:08:08.220 Quote.

00:08:08.640 Boom.

00:08:09.240 How did the witness go?

00:08:10.720 Agent 1.

00:08:11.720 Awesome. 0.97

00:08:12.740 Lied his ass off. 0.96

00:08:14.320 Went from never inside the SCIF. 0.99

00:08:16.300 A SCIF is a sensitive compartmented information facility.

00:08:19.480 Where you review.

00:08:20.560 Top secret SCI information.

00:08:22.560 Went from never inside the SCIF at residence.

00:08:25.040 To looked in when it was being constructed.

00:08:27.120 To remove the trash twice.

00:08:28.440 To troubleshot the secure facts.

00:08:30.500 With Hillary Rodden Clinton a couple of times.

00:08:32.500 To every time there was a secure facts. 0.99

00:08:34.160 I did it with HRC for a dick. 0.97

00:08:37.400 Would be funny if he was the only guy charged in this deal. 1.00

00:08:40.720 I know.

00:08:41.800 For 1001.

00:08:43.120 Even if he said the truth.

00:08:44.160 And didn't have a clearance.

00:08:45.040 When you're handling the secure facts.

00:08:46.800 Ain't no one gonna do SHM.

00:08:50.120 In other words.

00:08:52.140 These two FBI investigate.

00:08:53.960 One FBI investigator.

00:08:54.940 And an FBI employee.

00:08:56.220 Knew.

00:08:57.020 That someone who worked for Hillary Clinton.

00:08:58.620 Was lying to them.

00:09:00.000 Knew it.

00:09:00.540 Knew it.

00:09:00.880 And also knew that no one at the FBI or DOJ. 0.95

00:09:06.980 Was gonna do a damned thing about it.

00:09:10.680 Yet the inspector general found that James Comey. 0.93

00:09:14.080 Did not let political bias creep in to the Hillary Clinton investigation.

00:09:17.640 And she was not given preferential treatment.

00:09:21.380 This is infuriating.

00:09:25.360 In.

00:09:27.160 Infuriating.

00:09:27.720 It's just amazing.

00:09:33.980 I read through this report last night.

00:09:35.440 It was up very very late.

00:09:38.040 And I.

00:09:38.760 I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

00:09:40.440 I've never been.

00:09:41.320 You know that.

00:09:42.260 You know that.

00:09:43.220 And I'm a lot more emotional.

00:09:44.560 I'm a lot more upset.

00:09:45.660 I'm a lot more angry today than I've been on the show.

00:09:47.500 In a very long time.

00:09:50.300 Considerably more.

00:09:52.420 This is a travesty.

00:09:54.160 This is an insult to America.

00:09:55.980 To the rule of law.

00:09:57.280 To the constitution.

00:10:00.200 Terrible.

00:10:01.420 This.

00:10:02.380 Is.

00:10:03.180 Terrible.

00:10:05.460 Terrible.

00:10:07.040 The implication.

00:10:08.820 Of this.

00:10:10.200 Now it doesn't.

00:10:11.040 It doesn't.

00:10:12.440 Pay to read you.

00:10:14.600 Much more.

00:10:15.540 Doesn't pay to read you much more.

00:10:17.820 Um.

00:10:18.360 And.

00:10:19.640 As I go through this.

00:10:21.760 Uh.

00:10:23.160 It.

00:10:23.440 It.

00:10:23.840 Uh.

00:10:24.820 It's infuriating.

00:10:26.040 You know.

00:10:26.500 But let's.

00:10:27.560 Let's analyze now.

00:10:28.920 Fallout.

00:10:29.860 What we know.

00:10:31.240 Is that justice will never be done.

00:10:33.060 Okay.

00:10:34.480 Let me put it in perspective.

00:10:35.700 If an FBI agent.

00:10:37.600 I might have told you this yesterday.

00:10:39.080 I've been saying this quite.

00:10:40.500 If an FBI agent.

00:10:42.080 Was.

00:10:42.900 At home.

00:10:43.900 With their daughter.

00:10:44.740 Their daughter was sick.

00:10:46.020 Home from school.

00:10:46.620 A little kid.

00:10:47.900 And the family had two cars.

00:10:49.280 One was in the shop.

00:10:50.540 And the FBI agent's wife.

00:10:51.800 Took the other car to work.

00:10:53.140 Or husband.

00:10:54.680 I want to be.

00:10:55.800 Perceived to be a misogynist.

00:10:58.000 The spouse.

00:10:59.040 Took the car to work.

00:11:00.080 And the only vehicle left at home.

00:11:01.440 Was the FBI agent's.

00:11:03.580 Work car.

00:11:04.180 The government.

00:11:04.540 What they call the official government vehicle.

00:11:06.020 The OGV.

00:11:07.140 Or OGA.

00:11:07.900 Official government automobile.

00:11:09.160 Depending on the agency.

00:11:11.740 If the FBI agent.

00:11:13.040 Off duty.

00:11:15.080 Said.

00:11:15.840 To their kid.

00:11:17.600 Stay on the couch.

00:11:18.580 I'm going to run to Walgreens.

00:11:19.920 Get you some cough medicine.

00:11:21.500 And they took the car.

00:11:23.460 The official government car.

00:11:24.800 And ran to a Walgreens drugstore.

00:11:26.240 In my neighborhood.

00:11:27.260 My Walgreens is literally walking distance.

00:11:29.520 Three blocks from my house.

00:11:30.440 And they made that six block round trip.

00:11:34.180 And somebody complained.

00:11:36.280 A neighbor.

00:11:36.900 Said.

00:11:37.540 Hey.

00:11:37.780 We just saw the FBI agent using their taxpayer.

00:11:40.360 Government funded car.

00:11:41.560 To go to Walgreens.

00:11:42.720 Okay.

00:11:42.960 That would be an automatic 45 to 60 day suspension.

00:11:52.640 Think about that.

00:11:54.440 Now I have friends who are DEA.

00:11:57.380 At DEA.

00:11:58.280 It's an automatic 30 to 60 day suspension.

00:12:01.660 For simply using your government car.

00:12:03.660 You're not intoxicated.

00:12:05.280 You're not impaired.

00:12:06.620 You're simply running an errand.

00:12:08.260 Six blocks.

00:12:09.660 But you use the government vehicle.

00:12:10.940 Taxpayer funded to do it.

00:12:12.820 A 30 to 60 day suspension.

00:12:15.020 Depending on the agency.

00:12:16.540 No questions asked.

00:12:18.080 Policy set in stone.

00:12:19.220 Yet senior FBI officials.

00:12:24.360 Weaponized their offices.

00:12:27.120 Senior DOJ officials.

00:12:29.280 Weaponized their offices.

00:12:30.560 To rig the presidential election.

00:12:32.880 On behalf of Hillary Clinton.

00:12:34.780 And the inspector general's office says.

00:12:37.140 Eh.

00:12:37.760 Might be something.

00:12:38.960 Might be nothing.

00:12:39.980 Let's kick it back to FBI.

00:12:41.220 To investigate internally.

00:12:43.380 This.

00:12:43.740 Now let me explain this to you.

00:12:44.920 Because they.

00:12:45.460 They.

00:12:45.680 They're relying on the fact.

00:12:47.680 The general public.

00:12:48.420 Doesn't understand the intricacies.

00:12:50.760 But I do.

00:12:51.780 I do.

00:12:53.160 In the report.

00:12:55.000 They refer five FBI employees.

00:12:58.200 Stroke.

00:12:58.660 Lisa Page and others.

00:13:00.540 For investigation.

00:13:02.800 And many people.

00:13:04.160 Who are trying.

00:13:05.460 They still believe in those conspiracy theory.

00:13:07.420 5D chess.

00:13:08.400 And Jeff Sessions is the.

00:13:09.720 Silent assassin.

00:13:10.720 Behind the scenes.

00:13:11.620 And he's got a team of prosecutors.

00:13:13.940 See.

00:13:14.300 They referred five for investigation.

00:13:16.300 You don't know what you're talking about.

00:13:17.220 Cardillo.

00:13:17.720 No.

00:13:17.900 You don't know what you're talking about.

00:13:19.960 It means nothing.

00:13:21.820 Investigations.

00:13:22.440 Sounds scary.

00:13:22.980 Right.

00:13:23.380 Well.

00:13:24.200 Retail store security guards.

00:13:25.660 Conduct investigations.

00:13:27.720 On shoplifters.

00:13:29.080 It means they grab somebody.

00:13:29.960 That's a shoplifter. 0.71

00:13:30.620 They look at the videotape.

00:13:31.500 They say.

00:13:31.780 Yeah.

00:13:31.900 That's them.

00:13:32.780 That's an investigation.

00:13:34.620 Okay.

00:13:35.360 This investigation.

00:13:37.180 Is going back.

00:13:38.960 To FBI.

00:13:39.680 OPR.

00:13:40.180 The Office of Professional Responsibility.

00:13:42.800 Understand something.

00:13:44.120 It's being kicked.

00:13:45.240 Down.

00:13:45.640 Not escalated.

00:13:47.640 Okay.

00:13:48.260 Being de-escalated.

00:13:50.560 OPR.

00:13:51.720 Looks at everything.

00:13:53.460 Everything.

00:13:53.980 The most minor thing.

00:13:55.760 OPR.

00:13:56.200 Looks at the use of the car.

00:13:57.780 OPR.

00:13:58.240 Looks at.

00:13:58.760 An FBI agent.

00:13:59.760 Accused of discourtesy.

00:14:01.840 When.

00:14:02.520 When conducting an investigation.

00:14:04.180 The FBI came to my business.

00:14:05.060 Your agent was rude.

00:14:06.840 They.

00:14:07.260 They didn't identify themselves properly.

00:14:08.880 The most minor things.

00:14:11.160 If.

00:14:11.640 Now.

00:14:12.260 If.

00:14:12.720 FBI gets a complaint.

00:14:14.760 Or DEA.

00:14:15.360 Or ATF.

00:14:15.860 Or any agency.

00:14:17.420 About anything as innocuous.

00:14:18.800 As your agent was rude.

00:14:19.900 So your agent is. 1.00

00:14:20.880 Corrupt in dealing drugs. 0.83

00:14:22.400 OPR gets it first.

00:14:24.200 If it's deemed to be more egregious.

00:14:26.400 Criminal.

00:14:26.980 It goes.

00:14:27.840 To OIG. 0.98

00:14:29.160 The Department of Justice.

00:14:30.320 OIG.

00:14:30.840 As long as the agency falls under.

00:14:32.140 The other agencies.

00:14:33.600 Have their own OIG.

00:14:36.000 If it was.

00:14:36.860 Secret Service.

00:14:37.300 It would go to Homeland Security's OIG.

00:14:39.420 But it would go to OIG.

00:14:40.600 Of the respective.

00:14:41.740 Parent agency.

00:14:42.720 FBI.

00:14:43.460 Obviously is under DOJ.

00:14:46.480 What OIG is saying.

00:14:48.540 Is that.

00:14:49.100 These things.

00:14:50.500 Are not serious enough.

00:14:52.120 For us anymore. 0.95

00:14:53.960 We're going to kick them back. 0.99

00:14:55.260 To OPR.

00:14:56.160 These are internal.

00:14:57.700 Administrative issues.

00:14:59.220 They're not.

00:15:00.280 Big issues.

00:15:00.780 That require.

00:15:01.900 Inspector General.

00:15:03.040 Involvement.

00:15:03.520 The reason I'm so fired up.

00:15:07.500 Is that I worked inside.

00:15:08.500 I know how it works.

00:15:10.960 This.

00:15:11.500 Is a whitewash.

00:15:13.480 Last week.

00:15:14.140 I said to you.

00:15:14.820 I think it's going to be a dud.

00:15:16.020 A few days ago.

00:15:16.640 I said.

00:15:17.000 I think it's going to be a dud.

00:15:18.400 It's going to justify.

00:15:19.400 A few firings.

00:15:20.540 And no one's going to get prosecuted.

00:15:22.620 This is one.

00:15:23.700 Look.

00:15:23.860 I love making.

00:15:24.940 Predictions.

00:15:25.600 Giving you analysis.

00:15:26.720 That turns out to be right.

00:15:28.680 It's why you watch me.

00:15:29.900 Okay.

00:15:30.700 That's what my job is.

00:15:32.020 To do my homework.

00:15:33.000 To tap my experience.

00:15:33.860 To be right.

00:15:34.880 This is one.

00:15:35.680 That I am sickened.

00:15:36.660 That I was right about.

00:15:39.200 But I was.

00:15:40.900 It justified. 0.68

00:15:41.840 Comey's firing.

00:15:43.040 Maybe.

00:15:44.340 I mean.

00:15:44.540 Comey could have been fired.

00:15:45.220 For any reason.

00:15:45.820 The president's in the clear.

00:15:47.160 It helps the president.

00:15:48.420 Because it.

00:15:49.280 It did justify.

00:15:50.500 Comey's firing.

00:15:51.660 Combined with the Rosenstein letter.

00:15:53.380 Well how could the president.

00:15:54.200 Have obstructed justice.

00:15:55.200 If now the inspector general.

00:15:56.860 Appointed by Barack Obama.

00:15:58.100 Is saying.

00:15:58.360 Comey handled his job improperly.

00:16:00.980 He.

00:16:01.300 He defied authority.

00:16:03.180 He was insubordinate.

00:16:04.480 Those are all fireable offenses.

00:16:06.680 So.

00:16:07.320 Mueller's assertion.

00:16:08.280 That Comey was fired.

00:16:09.180 And it was obstruction of justice.

00:16:10.380 Just got.

00:16:11.260 Tossed on its head.

00:16:12.700 So that's a win for the president.

00:16:13.820 But it's about the only win.

00:16:15.660 For the president.

00:16:16.900 America lost.

00:16:18.080 The rule of law.

00:16:19.200 Lost.

00:16:19.540 The United States Constitution.

00:16:22.000 Lost.

00:16:23.780 Lost.

00:16:24.860 They all lost today.

00:16:26.480 Yesterday.

00:16:26.780 This is disgraceful.

00:16:30.160 This is absolutely disgraceful.

00:16:32.460 The president of the United States.

00:16:33.660 Needs to immediately.

00:16:35.140 Immediately.

00:16:36.640 Without delay.

00:16:38.340 Immediately.

00:16:39.900 Fire Jeff Sessions.

00:16:41.560 Fire Rod Rosenstein.

00:16:42.720 And fire Robert Mueller.

00:16:43.560 Now I know the likelihood of that is slim.

00:16:45.380 And fire Christopher Wray.

00:16:46.800 The FBI director.

00:16:47.840 His press conference was abysmal.

00:16:50.580 He basically said.

00:16:52.460 I don't care what you think of the FBI.

00:16:53.820 I don't see any problems here.

00:16:56.880 We're going to do some ethical training.

00:16:59.120 And by the way.

00:16:59.900 We only accept 5% of our honors interns.

00:17:02.500 It was.

00:17:03.340 It was.

00:17:04.160 A babbling mess of weakness.

00:17:05.980 His press conference.

00:17:07.560 Christopher Wray.

00:17:08.640 And James Comey.

00:17:09.520 Are prime examples.

00:17:10.500 Of why.

00:17:11.700 You should not have.

00:17:13.560 Department of Justice lawyers.

00:17:15.100 Who never carried a gun.

00:17:16.140 Never kicked the door.

00:17:16.860 And never tackled the bad guy.

00:17:18.180 Running the FBI.

00:17:19.720 Contrast them.

00:17:20.620 With Tom Homan.

00:17:21.540 Who runs ICE.

00:17:22.820 A hard charging cop.

00:17:24.440 A guy like Tom Homan.

00:17:25.560 Would have the FBI.

00:17:26.540 In shape in a week.

00:17:28.380 President needs to fire Ray. 0.97

00:17:30.300 He needs to fire Sessions.

00:17:31.360 Rosenstein and Mueller immediately.

00:17:33.400 DOJ and FBI.

00:17:34.620 Need a house cleaning. 1.00

00:17:36.780 And gallons.

00:17:38.500 Thousands of gallons.

00:17:39.400 Of bleach poured on them.

00:17:41.140 To sanitize the place.

00:17:43.060 And then.

00:17:43.620 Maybe just then.

00:17:44.660 They'll restore their credibility.

00:17:46.260 But what immediately.

00:17:47.180 Needs to be done.

00:17:48.320 I mean in the next 10 minutes.

00:17:50.100 Is the President of the United States.

00:17:51.940 Needs to appoint.

00:17:53.220 A second special counsel.

00:17:54.780 Which he can constitutionally do.

00:17:57.140 He doesn't need the AG to do it.

00:17:58.940 He needs to appoint.

00:17:59.620 A second special counsel.

00:18:01.380 So that justice can be done.

00:18:03.580 Is this.

00:18:04.520 This.

00:18:05.380 Is an absolute.

00:18:06.900 Disgrace. 0.78

00:18:07.380 A lot of conservatives.

00:18:19.540 A lot of conservatives.

00:18:19.560 Are very.

00:18:20.320 Very upset.

00:18:21.400 About this.

00:18:22.020 Tepid.

00:18:22.780 Whitewash.

00:18:23.680 Cover up.

00:18:24.520 Of an inspector general's report.

00:18:25.700 But I don't think any two.

00:18:26.600 Are more upset than me.

00:18:27.700 And.

00:18:28.360 Kurt Schlichter.

00:18:28.860 He joins me now.

00:18:29.500 Kurt.

00:18:30.080 I read this thing last night.

00:18:31.260 I dug in deep.

00:18:32.080 I went late.

00:18:32.680 I said.

00:18:33.020 Somebody.

00:18:33.720 Had to have missed something.

00:18:34.820 It can't be 500 some odd pages of.

00:18:38.220 It looks bad.

00:18:39.300 But it's probably just administrative issues.

00:18:41.300 Within the FBI.

00:18:42.620 And.

00:18:43.200 Let's send it back down to OPR. 0.96

00:18:45.480 Under.

00:18:45.680 Under OIG.

00:18:46.460 Let's send it back down.

00:18:47.480 For some administrative review.

00:18:49.260 Maybe.

00:18:49.940 Some people get suspended.

00:18:51.540 Maybe some people get fired.

00:18:52.820 But beyond that.

00:18:54.300 It's a big nothing.

00:18:55.200 I thought.

00:18:55.840 That wasn't going to be the case.

00:18:57.440 That's the case.

00:19:00.720 I'm a little troubled.

00:19:02.000 That the Department of Justice.

00:19:03.160 Doesn't know.

00:19:04.040 The definition of.

00:19:04.820 Evidence.

00:19:05.740 Yes.

00:19:06.160 Yes.

00:19:06.540 Because.

00:19:07.180 Or justice.

00:19:09.120 Yeah.

00:19:09.440 Well.

00:19:10.980 Let's start at the beginning.

00:19:12.340 Let's start at the basics.

00:19:14.220 At the end.

00:19:15.140 They conclude.

00:19:15.720 There's no evidence.

00:19:16.600 Of.

00:19:17.220 Political bias.

00:19:18.320 Influences.

00:19:18.960 Actions.

00:19:20.480 After.

00:19:21.660 Highlighting.

00:19:22.280 A pervasive.

00:19:23.300 Culture.

00:19:24.680 Of.

00:19:26.040 Politicization.

00:19:27.080 Right.

00:19:28.160 Against.

00:19:29.620 The Trump side.

00:19:30.700 And.

00:19:31.160 For the Hillary Clinton side.

00:19:33.440 I mean.

00:19:33.720 It wasn't just.

00:19:34.640 A few things.

00:19:35.800 It was pervasive.

00:19:37.420 Continuous.

00:19:38.460 And.

00:19:39.720 Through.

00:19:40.340 And through.

00:19:41.240 The entire.

00:19:42.200 And not just by.

00:19:43.160 Investigation.

00:19:44.040 Right.

00:19:44.320 Not just by.

00:19:44.920 Everybody involved.

00:19:46.840 Everybody involved.

00:19:47.460 But.

00:19:47.540 I got to read.

00:19:48.280 I got to read this.

00:19:48.960 I got to read this.

00:19:49.020 Because you talked about evidence.

00:19:50.580 Lisa Page.

00:19:51.680 Trump's not ever going to become president.

00:19:53.700 Right.

00:19:54.300 Right.

00:19:55.500 A Peter stroke.

00:19:56.620 No.

00:19:57.200 No.

00:19:57.480 He won't.

00:19:58.200 We'll stop it.

00:19:59.740 But they found no evidence of political bias there among senior members of the FBI.

00:20:04.140 You know.

00:20:04.700 It.

00:20:04.860 It would be.

00:20:05.320 It would be funny if it wasn't tragic.

00:20:06.780 Evidence is anything that proves or tends to prove a material fact at issue.

00:20:12.280 The existence of a pervasive culture of politicization in favor of Hillary Clinton, plus the fact that every single decision, which they characterize as prosecutorial discretion, went in Hillary's favor.

00:20:29.980 From granting immunity to pretty much everybody, to not seeking subpoenas, to not examining the most basic evidence, which would be the server.

00:20:39.800 Right.

00:20:40.180 Everyone.

00:20:40.880 They characterize each of these as discretion.

00:20:44.300 But each of them went in her favor.

00:20:46.200 John, you're involved in law enforcement.

00:20:48.360 When have you ever seen a suspect who gets the benefit of the doubt every single time when the fix isn't in?

00:20:56.660 I'll tell you what else.

00:20:57.360 I'll tell you what else I've never seen.

00:20:58.360 Well, let's ask Dinesh D'Souza about it.

00:21:00.660 How about Frank Quattro?

00:21:01.660 That's right.

00:21:02.040 How about Conrad Black?

00:21:03.160 Let's ask them.

00:21:04.440 How about Hank Greenberg?

00:21:05.580 How about Hank Greenberg who prevailed, but he had to spend about $22 million on legal fees to beat the government.

00:21:11.360 Yeah.

00:21:12.000 Yeah.

00:21:12.360 When does this discretion start going in the favor of an accused that they happen to disagree with politically?

00:21:19.540 When does this start?

00:21:20.620 That's right.

00:21:21.140 It doesn't.

00:21:22.540 To say that there's no evidence is a lie.

00:21:25.320 You might not believe it.

00:21:26.360 You might not be convinced.

00:21:27.600 There's evidence to the earth.

00:21:29.480 All of them denied it.

00:21:30.700 And you could believe their denial.

00:21:32.420 But don't tell me there's no evidence.

00:21:34.140 That's a lie.

00:21:35.700 A total lie.

00:21:36.700 But let me say this.

00:21:37.720 I've never seen this many Queen for a Day letters issued with people so materially close, not to the investigation, but to the criminal behavior in the investigation.

00:21:49.300 That was purposeful.

00:21:50.720 Queen for a Day letter is just a fancy way of saying immunity.

00:21:53.180 You're given immunity for your testimony that day, just for the audience.

00:21:55.720 But I've never seen immunity granted to that many people who went into the interview most likely having done something criminal.

00:22:03.900 That wasn't done to get their testimony.

00:22:07.060 That was done to protect them.

00:22:09.180 Yes.

00:22:10.280 Yeah.

00:22:10.780 I mean, that's not why you use those Queen for a Day letters.

00:22:14.260 You use those Queen for a Day letters to get testimony, not to give cover to your political allies.

00:22:18.760 Right, but that's what happened here.

00:22:21.260 I mean, this was—this is a disaster, more than just this investigation.

00:22:27.620 The thing about Hillary Clinton, you know, it's bad, and there are certain people who should have gone to jail. 1.00

00:22:34.100 But the real damage is to the institutions and to our faith in our system.

00:22:42.000 This was an attempt to try and whitewash things to get the reputation of the FBI and the DOJ back.

00:22:48.760 By someone who loves the DOJ and loves the FBI and thinks it's important that their reputation come back.

00:22:54.620 But they don't understand.

00:22:56.100 They don't understand the fact that when a limb is gangrenous, it has to come off.

00:23:02.200 Look, I used to be the guy that the generals would send to troubled units to fix them.

00:23:07.720 And I would go in, and I would clean house.

00:23:11.860 That's how you do it.

00:23:12.880 You don't walk away from the problem.

00:23:13.780 Let me ask you a question about that because it's important.

00:23:15.240 So you wouldn't do, back when you were a colonel, what Christopher Ray did, which was to hold a press conference saying you were going to hold ethics and diversity training.

00:23:25.900 We have the best intern program, and we only take 5% of our honor as interns.

00:23:32.900 Yeah, you don't walk in and talk about how great everybody is.

00:23:36.300 If you guys are really good, and they're always good troops, you know, I never blamed the troops.

00:23:42.660 I blamed the culture of the command.

00:23:44.940 You don't have to tell them that.

00:23:46.900 You walked in, and you set the standard, and you executed. 0.95

00:23:51.060 This guy needs to go.

00:23:52.440 This guy has failed.

00:23:53.440 That guy has failed. 1.00

00:23:54.560 That guy is a crook. 0.99

00:23:55.800 He's getting UCMJ. 0.98

00:23:57.200 This is, you go in, and you confront the problem, and you get rid of them, and you allow the good people to operate by enforcing the standards.

00:24:06.500 You don't tell everybody we're a great organization.

00:24:08.740 You become a great organization by becoming a great organization.

00:24:12.920 Well, you know, did you see Gorka, Sebastian Gorka's tweets today, and they comport with other reporters from Fox News? 0.68

00:24:18.480 Gorka said that Christopher Ray is completely useless.

00:24:21.140 Agents tell him that Ray sits in his office with the door closed. 0.94

00:24:24.040 He's paralyzed and terrified.

00:24:25.620 Then, I forget who it was, but a Fox News reporter tweeted that they're now hearing from agents that Ray is down his foot and says no more whistleblowers,

00:24:34.760 and you're going to basically be penalized and ruined if you dare blow the whistle on any more wrongdoing inside the FBI.

00:24:42.240 This is not the way to repair the image of an agency.

00:24:45.760 Oh, my God.

00:24:47.460 And I have no doubt all that's true.

00:24:50.020 I don't understand the Session or Ray thing.

00:24:53.280 Me neither.

00:24:54.320 I don't get it.

00:24:55.300 Well, I do.

00:24:55.800 I had gotten in there.

00:24:56.560 I do.

00:24:57.320 I understand the appointment.

00:24:58.520 I understand the appointment.

00:24:59.380 Not to cut you off.

00:24:59.740 I understand the appointments.

00:25:01.140 Sessions helped Trump politically.

00:25:03.060 I get that.

00:25:03.920 But then he and Rosenstein.

00:25:05.220 Sessions should have been great.

00:25:06.020 Right.

00:25:06.260 He and Rosenstein recommended Ray.

00:25:08.040 But here's my problem with Ray that I've always had with DOJ lawyers who've never carried a gun, never kicked a door, never tackled a bad guy running the FBI.

00:25:17.460 You can't have a lawyer who's never been a cop running a law enforcement agency.

00:25:22.220 For contrast, this against Tom Homan, the ICE director.

00:25:25.880 That guy is hard charging, unpolitically correct, unapologetic.

00:25:29.500 If you stuck a Tom Homan-like guy at the top of the FBI, the agency would be clean in a week.

00:25:35.760 I agree.

00:25:36.820 Now, look, I'm a lawyer and I was never a cop.

00:25:41.260 But if I went in there, I would know what to do. 0.99

00:25:46.420 I would know who's butt to kick. 0.96

00:25:49.420 And I don't think he went in. 0.77

00:25:51.440 I think he went in there to protect the agency as a bureaucrat thinks about it.

00:25:56.640 A bureaucrat thinks about protecting his agency by covering up wrongdoing.

00:26:01.000 A leader thinks about protecting his agency by making his agency great.

00:26:06.000 And you do that by enforcing standards.

00:26:09.180 You know, an agency is great because of its standards, not in spite of them.

00:26:13.180 Not in spite of the fact that people found out that sometimes people don't meet the standards.

00:26:17.980 That's expected.

00:26:19.280 You expect that sometimes people are going to fall short.

00:26:22.120 When you succeed, it's because of your reaction to it.

00:26:26.020 Not covering it up, but dealing with it openly.

00:26:29.440 But isn't the equivalent to sticking a DOJ lawyer at the helm of the FBI the same as if instead of sending in Colonel Kurt Schlichter with 20 some odd years in the military,

00:26:39.920 they plucked a DOJ lawyer that's never served in the military and stuck them in.

00:26:44.680 Yeah, but find a JAG from headquarters.

00:26:46.560 Right, right, or not even a JAG.

00:26:48.160 Not even a JAG, just a civilian DOJ lawyer that's never had military time and put them in place to run one of the units.

00:26:57.180 That's what I see the equivalent as.

00:26:59.300 Yeah, and I think it's got to stop.

00:27:02.580 And I think this is going to give Trump some leeway to fire people.

00:27:12.200 I expect a tweet storm if it already hasn't started.

00:27:16.620 You know what?

00:27:17.160 Good point.

00:27:17.720 Let's take a look at Donald Trump's Twitter.

00:27:20.900 Oh, boy.

00:27:21.840 You know, he hasn't tweeted since yesterday.

00:27:24.540 Yeah, Donald Trump was 100% right to fire James Comey.

00:27:28.440 Excuse me, Trump retweeted Mark Levin.

00:27:29.980 He retweeted Fox and Friends.

00:27:32.460 He retweeted Jason Chavez.

00:27:34.900 So, okay, so more Mark Levin.

00:27:38.820 He's talking about jobs numbers, but he is retweeting.

00:27:42.300 He retweeted three hours ago.

00:27:44.420 Okay, here we go.

00:27:45.440 Trump tweeted three hours ago.

00:27:47.100 The IG report is a total disaster for Comey, his minions, and sadly, the FBI.

00:27:52.100 Comey will now officially go down as the worst leader by far in the history of the FBI.

00:27:56.100 I did a great, I did a great, now this is what bothers me, Kurt.

00:28:01.540 I did a great service to the people in firing him.

00:28:04.080 Good instincts.

00:28:05.340 Christopher Wray will bring it proudly back.

00:28:07.920 I disagree with the president on that.

00:28:09.680 Why does he have so much faith in him?

00:28:12.160 Is this some of the 273 level chests that we're-

00:28:15.400 Yeah, we're not privy to.

00:28:17.560 278 D chests.

00:28:18.740 It's lost.

00:28:18.940 Yeah, I just, I, I, I don't know.

00:28:24.260 I don't know.

00:28:25.100 Look, I mean, look, again, I didn't start out having a lot of faith in Donald Trump, as you well know.

00:28:30.760 I was an anti- 0.99

00:28:31.360 I was never a never-Trumper because I've had sex with a woman. 0.95

00:28:34.360 But I was, I was a, I was an anti-Trump guy.

00:28:39.740 And then Trump won me over with a track record of success and making promises and keeping them.

00:28:45.460 So I think he deserves a little faith.

00:28:48.660 But boy, it's hard.

00:28:49.920 I'm, I'm watching hard.

00:28:51.340 He, he, he seems to like this Ray guy.

00:28:53.480 I don't know what's going on there.

00:28:55.480 I don't know.

00:28:56.240 Maybe no, some, I don't know.

00:28:57.720 I'll tell you what it is.

00:28:58.620 I know that somebody in the White House likes Christopher Wray.

00:29:03.640 And it's somebody that Trump respects, who's reassuring Trump that Wray is a good guy.

00:29:08.460 That's the only explanation for this.

00:29:11.200 It might be Kelly.

00:29:12.400 Might be Kelly.

00:29:13.040 Might be General Kelly.

00:29:14.940 Might be White House Counsel Don McGahn.

00:29:17.360 Would be Jared or Ivanka.

00:29:18.780 But people that the president trusts and listens to.

00:29:21.380 Maybe he didn't watch, maybe he didn't watch the news conference.

00:29:24.100 He was at top interns, best interns, huge interns.

00:29:27.980 Huge interns.

00:29:28.980 Five percent.

00:29:29.480 Five percent.

00:29:30.000 Five percent of the interns.

00:29:31.360 You know what that means?

00:29:32.300 If we have a hundred interns, we only take five. 0.96

00:29:35.480 Five percent of the interns.

00:29:36.680 Jeff Blake is Mr. 18 percent.

00:29:38.820 And Christopher Wray is Mr. 5 percent.

00:29:40.900 By the way, interesting fact about Jeff Flake.

00:29:43.460 He played in the congressional baseball game.

00:29:45.720 He's a lefty.

00:29:47.340 He's a lefty.

00:29:48.200 Nice.

00:29:49.020 Yep.

00:29:49.560 Nice.

00:29:50.300 How fitting is that?

00:29:51.860 Nice.

00:29:52.680 That's, that's perfect.

00:29:54.680 And Steve Scalise.

00:29:56.040 Steve Scalise made his first play.

00:29:57.740 It was pretty good.

00:29:58.320 You see the video?

00:29:59.520 I've heard about it.

00:30:00.560 I've heard about it.

00:30:01.380 It's a cool video.

00:30:02.100 Yeah.

00:30:02.420 That's kind of inspirational.

00:30:04.200 I mean, you take a 7-6-2 round to the pelvis and then you come back a year later and you're

00:30:10.420 playing baseball. 0.82

00:30:11.200 That's, that's pretty butch.

00:30:12.420 You know, I just don't think that we've really explored the fact that a, a Democrat, proud 0.83

00:30:20.600 Democrat, tried to murder a bunch of Republicans.

00:30:23.040 Oh, that was buried. 0.94

00:30:23.960 That was swept under the rug.

00:30:25.960 Yeah.

00:30:26.980 Swept completely under the rug.

00:30:28.620 So what do you think?

00:30:29.240 They should have worked at the IGs.

00:30:30.880 Yeah.

00:30:31.060 Do we see Lisa Page and Peter Stroke fired or does this whole thing just get swept away?

00:30:34.500 Uh, I, I think they're going to have to fire.

00:30:38.200 If you look at the IG report, and you have in more detail than I have, um, but they did

00:30:46.320 have some very damaging revelations.

00:30:48.440 Let's, let, let, let's not, you know, confuse people.

00:30:51.860 There is a lot of bad stuff he talked about.

00:30:54.020 There's a lot of bad stuff.

00:30:54.920 It's his conclusions.

00:30:55.800 But, but I see on the whole, but not to individual players.

00:30:59.940 Yeah.

00:31:00.380 But there, there are things that he just couldn't hide and he had to say.

00:31:03.660 Right.

00:31:04.000 Right.

00:31:04.180 And I think, I don't think there's, there's not a scenario I see where Stroke and Page stay

00:31:10.260 on in the FBI.

00:31:11.140 Now, I'm curious, was there any talk about the fact that they were, you know, banging each

00:31:15.360 other and that's completely against the rules?

00:31:17.760 Did anyone, did the IG mention you're not supposed to do that?

00:31:19.600 Apparently, that's not against the rules.

00:31:21.460 Apparently, ruin around with your married colleague is not against the rules, FBI rules.

00:31:28.140 So I guess that's why Ray wants to conduct ethics training.

00:31:31.640 It might be.

00:31:32.000 Well, maybe, maybe it should be.

00:31:34.300 Maybe it should be.

00:31:34.940 Not only for the harassment side, but you know, if you're encounter, if you're head of counterintelligence

00:31:39.420 and you're banging a woman who's not your wife, doesn't that make you potentially compromised?

00:31:44.460 I think you're, you're, you're really blackmail in that case, right?

00:31:48.420 You would, you would, I honestly have to tell you, Kurt, I was shocked that it wasn't, that

00:31:52.880 it wasn't part of the code of the FBI because all agents have to carry TS clearance, top

00:31:57.780 secret.

00:31:58.240 Many carry TS, SCI.

00:31:59.720 You would think that anything that could compromise you would automatically.

00:32:03.520 Oh, when I, when I got, when I got my TS, SCI, I mean, they were like, okay, tell me

00:32:08.940 anything you've done.

00:32:09.980 Right.

00:32:10.500 Tell me the bad stuff.

00:32:12.460 Maybe we can work through it, but you got to tell me.

00:32:14.960 Right.

00:32:15.120 Right.

00:32:15.740 And I'm like, well, there was the gimp box.

00:32:18.120 No, no, nothing, nothing, nothing.

00:32:20.400 That's, that's nothing.

00:32:21.960 That was a lot of times.

00:32:22.520 Because no one else was involved.

00:32:23.640 That was before cell phone cameras were okay.

00:32:27.740 No, I mean, it's, I mean, it's hugely disappointing.

00:32:31.400 The FBI, remember when we were kids, the FBI was a legend.

00:32:34.440 Oh God.

00:32:34.880 There are a few, there are a few, yeah.

00:32:36.420 Yeah, there are a few police agencies that are led, you were in a legendary one.

00:32:39.960 The, the, the NYPD is a legend.

00:32:42.180 The LAPD.

00:32:43.780 LAPD was a, it was a legendary organization.

00:32:46.680 The FBI though was the FBI.

00:32:48.540 Was the, was the Martin.

00:32:49.920 Right.

00:32:50.620 Remember that?

00:32:51.560 The premier agency.

00:32:51.840 And I watched every Sunday.

00:32:53.440 Right.

00:32:53.720 And, and, and, and, you know, if the FBI said it, you know, and, and juries reacted that

00:32:58.580 way, juries were like, you know, a prosecutor could go at the FBI crime lab has found

00:33:03.720 this, you know, fiber.

00:33:05.140 And you're like, Oh, well, you know, this day, every law enforcement agency in the country

00:33:12.400 follows the FBI protocols for selecting firearms and ammunition to give to their cops.

00:33:18.140 It's still considered the premier and let's face it, J. Edgar Hoover, despite the fact

00:33:23.980 that he liked to wear dresses and most likely had a 30 year relationship with his aide.

00:33:29.400 He was a tough, but they weren't married.

00:33:31.780 They weren't married.

00:33:32.780 They didn't break down, but he was a tough FBI director.

00:33:36.000 The guy was never perceived as weak.

00:33:37.780 He never put up, would have put up with this.

00:33:39.620 Look, he was a, you show up and you're wearing a suit and tie.

00:33:42.960 That's right.

00:33:43.160 You look like an FBI agent.

00:33:45.000 Your behavior is beyond reproach.

00:33:48.060 That's right.

00:33:48.680 We're got, you know, no corrupt.

00:33:50.360 You know, you didn't see, you know, Whitey Bulger getting tips from the FBI guys during

00:33:55.140 Hoover's time.

00:33:57.320 A case that Robert Mueller, Robert Mueller was the lead U.S.

00:34:00.420 Buried, yeah, you didn't see, you know, Robert Hansen selling out the FBI.

00:34:05.900 You didn't see the FBI crime lab having thousands of convictions overturned.

00:34:10.720 You didn't see, but, you know, but we, while we're talking about all this bad stuff, we still

00:34:16.920 have to go back to the heroism of individual FBI agents.

00:34:20.160 And I go back to the Florida shootout where a bunch of FBI's with very light weapons went

00:34:27.160 up against trained, you know, special forces guys with long rifles and shot it out with

00:34:32.600 them.

00:34:32.800 Yeah, former Vietnam vets. 0.75

00:34:34.200 It was right here, right here in Miami, the famous Miami shootout in the late 90s.

00:34:38.260 Yeah.

00:34:39.060 And in fact, my commander actually went to Afghanistan later and worked with one of those guys who's

00:34:45.580 still on the job in the 2000s doing anti-drug stuff in Afghanistan.

00:34:50.980 Wow.

00:34:51.080 He was the guy who actually killed the two at the end, shot through the arm, firing a 12-gauge

00:34:57.080 shotgun with one hand and then his pistol.

00:34:59.400 A QTR is, I think. 0.97

00:35:00.640 Yeah, he was HRT.

00:35:01.900 He was FBI HRT, hostage rescue team there, SWAT.

00:35:04.440 He was a hard charging guy.

00:35:05.700 Yeah.

00:35:05.740 Yeah.

00:35:06.240 Yeah.

00:35:06.680 I mean, yeah.

00:35:07.240 A Cuban guy.

00:35:08.440 Yep.

00:35:08.580 And, uh, like my wife, so I, I'm familiar with when you get, you know, yeah, but I

00:35:15.000 mean, you know, for a guy to walk into fire like that with one light weapon against two

00:35:19.180 killers and to drop them both, I mean, that, that is the FBI we want.

00:35:24.420 That is the FBI that's still there. 0.83

00:35:26.060 That's the FBI that can be, and that is the FBI that this report betrayed by not holding

00:35:32.400 these agents to the standard.

00:35:34.440 That's right.

00:35:34.800 That, that, you know, that case called the famous Miami shootout, that case is training 0.75

00:35:38.100 doctrine in the police academy.

00:35:39.300 Yes.

00:35:39.540 And it was what, it was what created the national shift to deploying semi-automatic weapons to

00:35:45.480 police agencies because those agents were armed with 38s and the bad guys had fully automatic

00:35:50.440 M16s.

00:35:51.020 Uh, they, they also had very light nine millimeter pistols, uh, which, uh.

00:35:54.940 One or two agents had them.

00:35:56.160 One or two had them.

00:35:57.120 They were being tried.

00:35:57.780 They were the edgy ones.

00:35:58.960 Yeah.

00:35:59.120 And, uh, they were, they were underpowered at the time.

00:36:02.340 And they went, yeah, they went, they didn't have the good ammo.

00:36:04.580 They went to the 40 calibers and that's right.

00:36:06.640 They, yeah.

00:36:07.220 And there were, there were a lot of changes, but you know, even I, and I'm a civilian,

00:36:10.420 I've studied that shootout as part of my own personal training to figure out what do you

00:36:17.140 do in a close range firefight and how do you, but these guys kept fighting full of bullets.

00:36:24.580 They kept fighting and that's the FBI.

00:36:27.500 And that's why we owe them to hold that agency to the highest standards because that's, that's

00:36:33.740 it.

00:36:34.040 It's a betrayal of those guys.

00:36:36.360 All right, Kurt.

00:36:36.940 That is a perfect way to end it.

00:36:38.520 I could not agree more.

00:36:40.200 Kurt Schlichter, everybody catches show on the rebel every Thursday, right?

00:36:43.300 Kurt.

00:36:43.920 It's Thursday.

00:36:44.580 One came out last night.

00:36:45.500 You must watch it because it's the greatest thing ever happened.

00:36:48.060 I had gay Patriot on.

00:36:49.300 Oh, he's awesome.

00:36:49.940 He's awesome.

00:36:50.500 Oh God.

00:36:51.260 It's funny.

00:36:52.540 Every Thursday night.

00:36:53.440 It is really, really funny stuff.

00:36:55.560 Look there.

00:36:55.820 Have a great weekend.

00:36:56.560 I'll talk to you next week.

00:36:57.940 Okay.

00:36:58.780 Thanks.

00:37:10.420 So much going on in the world, especially as it pertains to Israel and Islamic terrorism,

00:37:14.860 we're seeing Hamas put together 5,000 kite bombs in Gaza to mark the end of Ramadan.

00:37:21.740 And in Canada, we're seeing backlash against anti-Muslim speech, similar to what we're seeing

00:37:27.100 in the UK.

00:37:28.220 Joining me now to discuss it all is the founder of Jihad Watch and the author of The History

00:37:32.260 of Jihad from Muhammad to ISIS, our good friend, Robert Spencer.

00:37:35.820 Robert, thanks for being here today.

00:37:37.420 Thank you, John.

00:37:38.400 Always a pleasure to have you.

00:37:39.520 Always very, very interesting.

00:37:41.060 You've got a story up on Jihad Watch.

00:37:43.420 Title is Canada.

00:37:44.660 Ottawa Library faces court challenge for canceling film depicting the Islamization of Europe.

00:37:51.080 This, you know, I know we should be desensitized to this by now, Robert, every time we see a

00:37:56.860 liberal government institution or entity or body trying to downplay the threat of radical

00:38:02.960 Islam.

00:38:03.680 But I have to admit, it still stings me every time.

00:38:08.460 So let me read a little bit from this.

00:38:10.300 Madeline Well, the organizer of a screening of the so-called, and I love how you guys wrote

00:38:14.840 this, a quote, controversial film, Killing Europe at the Ottawa Public Library, has applied

00:38:20.680 for a judicial review of the library's decision to cancel the showing.

00:38:24.520 Weld runs the Ottawa chapter of Act for Canada and is also co-founder of the organization Canadian

00:38:29.800 Citizens for Charter Rights and Freedom.

00:38:32.780 And it's simply a documentary that warns about the dangers of Islam essentially creating a 1.00

00:38:38.960 new caliphate in Europe. 0.72

00:38:40.340 Those are my words, not from Jihad Watch.

00:38:42.540 Apparently, the producer was scheduled to give a talk.

00:38:45.840 The Ottawa Public Library shut it down after members of, I'm guessing, the Muslim community 1.00

00:38:50.540 complained, correct?

00:38:52.100 It could be the left.

00:38:53.620 Or the left.

00:38:54.320 The leftist groups and Muslim groups are working in tandem to shut down free and honest discussion

00:38:59.300 about these issues.

00:39:01.820 The thing is, John—

00:39:03.100 I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:39:04.340 No, Robert, continue on.

00:39:05.400 Give us the background on this and the problems with it.

00:39:08.880 Yeah, sorry about that.

00:39:10.220 But the thing is that the film Killing Europe—you know, you said anti-Muslim at the beginning

00:39:16.000 of the segment.

00:39:17.020 And I have to say, it's a media myth that to say that we're against jihad terror and

00:39:24.100 sharia oppression of women, of gays, of non-Muslims, and so on, is anti-Muslim.

00:39:28.900 Fair point. 0.54

00:39:30.240 I stand corrected.

00:39:31.160 Great point.

00:39:31.640 Thank you.

00:39:31.840 It's very important because, you know, we have to not allow ourselves to accept this

00:39:36.540 leftist narrative.

00:39:38.120 To oppose jihad terror is no more anti-Muslim than to oppose Nazism during World War II is

00:39:43.380 anti-German.

00:39:44.360 Fair point.

00:39:45.800 So anyway, but that is how these kinds of initiatives proceed.

00:39:50.260 The film Killing Europe is a perfectly reasonable film that shows how there are some Muslims, 1.00

00:39:56.440 and here again, not all, who are trying to establish sharia enclaves in Europe and who

00:40:01.400 are eroding the principles of equality of rights of all people before the law, particularly

00:40:06.620 when it comes to women and to other groups that are targeted for discrimination in classic

00:40:11.620 formulations of sharia.

00:40:12.820 And so the thing is, John, that this film has been shut down in the Ottawa Public Library

00:40:17.620 because it's supposed to be anti-Muslim or Islamophobic.

00:40:21.600 And the Trudeau government, of course, is committed to this motion M-103, which calls Islamophobia

00:40:29.240 really any honest discussion of jihad terror or the oppression that comes from sharia.

00:40:35.360 So this is a real huge issue for Canada and its future.

00:40:40.460 If they're going to defend the freedom of speech or allow the freedom of speech to be

00:40:44.340 shut down and Muslims essentially to be created as a protected class that cannot be criticized 1.00

00:40:49.960 even as jihad terror continues to advance.

00:40:53.280 Well, there's a great quote in here.

00:40:54.380 So again, from the Jihad Watch piece, I'm reading verbatim.

00:40:57.520 The phobia about criticizing Islam is becoming more and more rooted in Canada.

00:41:00.780 A retired Air Force veteran, Major Russ Cooper, who also founded the C3RF organization, he said,

00:41:08.940 quote, the case really highlights just how chilled and intimidated every government authority,

00:41:15.860 every day government authorities have become when it comes to things Islamic,

00:41:19.720 right down the municipal level, of course, referring to the Ottawa Public Library, a local library.

00:41:24.600 We are well down the path that gave the U.K. its unimpeded rape gangs 0.84

00:41:27.620 and growing totalitarian impulses, including the jailing of Tommy Robinson.

00:41:32.640 Now, Tommy Robinson is a friend of ours here at The Rebel, a former colleague.

00:41:36.400 And I, as Americans, we look at what happened to him and we're simply horrified.

00:41:41.460 But it really does show us how far in the negative direction and the wrong direction

00:41:46.580 places like the U.K. have gone and Canada's going.

00:41:50.840 Yeah, absolutely.

00:41:51.500 And, you know, Christine Douglas Williams, who wrote this piece at Jihad Watch that you're quoting,

00:41:57.880 is working with people there in Canada to try to reverse what's happening because it is extraordinarily

00:42:05.280 disquieting under the guise of so-called hate speech, which really is anything.

00:42:10.840 You know, there's no identifiable quantity that's objectively validated called hate speech.

00:42:16.660 Hate speech is whatever you want to call anything that you don't like.

00:42:19.920 And the Trudeau government essentially is using the claim that some things constitute hate speech

00:42:26.040 in order to shut them down, which everyone should be upset about because any government

00:42:31.640 can come in and call anything they want hate speech and shut it down.

00:42:35.120 And leftists who are applauding this, they could find that that same tactic is going to

00:42:39.160 end up being used against them one day.

00:42:41.440 Well, we're seeing that here, though, Robert.

00:42:42.800 It doesn't even have to deal with Islam. 0.67

00:42:43.980 Diamond and silk were considered offensive hate speech by Facebook until, luckily,

00:42:49.920 diamond and silk know the president of the United States.

00:42:52.360 They were able to get national, international attention.

00:42:55.580 They got the ear of key members of the House and Senate, and Facebook was called to task.

00:43:00.240 But I just found out, and I won't say the name, a prominent conservative journalist,

00:43:05.120 they asked me not to say the name, received a letter from the FEC because a left-leaning

00:43:09.760 group filed a formal complaint that they didn't register their Facebook page as a political

00:43:16.980 committee.

00:43:18.320 This is how far the left is now going.

00:43:21.140 Yeah, they're determined to shut down all dissent.

00:43:23.200 What we see is the increasing authoritarianism of the left.

00:43:26.840 It demonstrates, of course, that they've lost the debate.

00:43:29.640 They know that they can't refute what we're saying.

00:43:32.400 They know, for example, when it comes to mass Muslim migration, the Islamization of Europe

00:43:38.240 and so on, as is discussed in Killing Europe, the documentary that was shut down in Ottawa,

00:43:42.760 they know that the migrants are wreaking havoc in Europe, that the situation is getting out 1.00

00:43:48.320 of hand rapidly in Sweden and in other countries.

00:43:51.420 And they know that they can't say anything about that.

00:43:53.460 So they're determined instead to silence us and to shut down all dissent.

00:43:57.800 Really, we see far-left regimes all over the world historically have always been authoritarian

00:44:03.560 and instituted a reign of terror to terrorize and kill or imprison all dissenters.

00:44:09.400 And we're seeing that the left now in the West is behaving in exactly the same way.

00:44:13.200 They are not fully in power, but they are moving to crush all dissent.

00:44:17.120 And I have no doubt that were they fully in power, then we would see the same things that

00:44:21.640 we saw in the Soviet Union and in communist China.

00:44:24.620 I agree.

00:44:25.500 And we're seeing in China now, Turkey, right?

00:44:27.800 You know, this is what I was going to ask you, and it was perfect.

00:44:29.960 I'm glad you went there.

00:44:31.020 It really was a perfect segue.

00:44:32.820 Here in America, we tell people, you know, we spew platitudes, right?

00:44:37.160 A little bit of hyperbole.

00:44:38.320 Get loud.

00:44:39.180 You know, go out there, march in the street, exercise your First Amendment right.

00:44:42.080 Go on to Twitter, go on to Facebook.

00:44:43.520 If you're a PAC, a political action committee of 527, throw your ads on TV, scream and yell,

00:44:48.600 get loud, and try to move the needle.

00:44:50.700 But like you say, we're now seeing in places like the UK, when you get loud,

00:44:55.440 Tommy Robinson got loud, he raised awareness, he shined a light on a problem, they scooped

00:45:01.400 him up, and they summarily stuck him in the bowels of a jail for 13 months.

00:45:06.360 When that starts happening, what's the citizenry to do, Robert?

00:45:10.560 Well, I think that there have to be continued protests in Britain.

00:45:15.840 There have been already, and I hope that they continue.

00:45:19.040 And I hope ultimately that the government takes heed, pays heed to the will of the people

00:45:24.560 and releases Tommy Robinson.

00:45:26.560 A lot of people, you know, since you mentioned that, John, a lot of people say, well, look,

00:45:30.220 hey, look, he's been rightly imprisoned.

00:45:32.200 He violated a court order.

00:45:33.700 But what was that court order? 0.99

00:45:34.940 They told him, you can't report outside the trials of Muslim rape gangs. 0.86

00:45:38.700 And this is a clear, transparent attempt to make sure that as few people as possible know 0.99

00:45:45.620 how much British officials let down their whole nation and allowed these Muslim rape gangs 1.00

00:45:51.200 to operate for years without being arrested or prosecuted, because they were afraid if 0.95

00:45:56.020 they did arrest and prosecute them, that they'd be accused of Islamophobia.

00:45:59.840 And so they didn't want Tommy talking about this, and they got him on this technicality.

00:46:05.980 But that's exactly what it is.

00:46:07.260 All the people who were imprisoned in the Soviet Union and communist China were rightly 1.00

00:46:11.680 imprisoned, too, if you go by—

00:46:14.180 By their law, by their book, right?

00:46:15.980 Listen, you know what's the biggest lie?

00:46:17.920 You know this.

00:46:18.940 You know this, but many in the audience might not know this.

00:46:21.560 One of the things that infuriates me the most is when European officials, whether it be in

00:46:25.240 the UK, whether it be in France, now in Sweden, claim that there are no such things

00:46:30.200 as no-go zones, these little, like you said it perfectly earlier, these Sharia and radical 1.00

00:46:35.020 Islamic enclaves within these cities.

00:46:37.680 I've got a friend who's a very senior federal law enforcement agent, and back in the late

00:46:41.900 90s until the early 2000s, he was a legal attache for his particular agency at the U.S.

00:46:47.460 embassy in Paris, and he was warned in their intelligence briefings about the Muslim no-go

00:46:53.560 zones back then.

00:46:55.820 These things have existed for decades, these no-go zones.

00:46:58.800 So the governments in the UK, in France, even down to the local level, the mayors of London,

00:47:05.940 Sadiq Khan, those without saying, and mayor of Paris, they are flat out lying to their

00:47:12.540 citizens and to the world, aren't they?

00:47:14.900 Yes, they are.

00:47:15.920 You may recall a few years ago, there was a controversy when no-go zones were discussed 0.99

00:47:20.160 on Fox News, and Fox abjectly apologized, which was stupid. 0.98

00:47:24.540 I remember that, Robert. 0.93

00:47:25.600 That actually is what spurned the initial discussion between me and this friend of mine, and we

00:47:31.400 discuss it often.

00:47:32.680 Well, the mayor of Paris, you may recall, threatened to sue Fox News at that time for talking about

00:47:38.160 no-go zones in Paris.

00:47:39.900 The suit never materialized, because the mayor of Paris knows very well that there are no-go

00:47:46.040 zones in Paris.

00:47:47.320 A lot of the objection to them comes from another technicality, that some people have defined

00:47:52.920 no-go zones as places where there are no non-Muslims, and non-Muslims can't even enter. 1.00

00:47:59.200 That's not really the case.

00:48:00.640 That's not really what they are.

00:48:02.740 Excuse me.

00:48:03.800 What they are is places where, essentially, Islamic law is in place, and is the de facto

00:48:11.200 law of the area.

00:48:12.600 Of course, there are non-Muslims there.

00:48:14.320 Of course, non-Muslims can enter. 1.00

00:48:15.820 But there is no real adherence to the laws of the land.

00:48:21.240 I'll give you an example.

00:48:22.120 Years ago, I was walking around in Molenbeek in Antwerp, in Belgium, which is the notorious

00:48:27.780 Muslim area that's full of jihadis. 1.00

00:48:30.120 The jihadis who killed 130 people in Paris in November 2015 hid out there for months before

00:48:36.400 they were discovered.

00:48:37.160 And I was walking around in there, and I went into a halal butcher shop, and I was behaving

00:48:42.220 like I was just an American tourist, and I wanted to take a picture.

00:48:47.240 And the Muslim who was the owner of the butcher shop, or the guy who was attending it, he got

00:48:53.280 very angry and warned me in no uncertain terms that I better not take a picture.

00:48:57.280 And if I took a picture, there could be trouble.

00:48:59.760 Now, tourists go to Paris and take pictures all the time.

00:49:02.420 The idea that this is forbidden in this area is an indication that there is a whole other

00:49:07.900 set of laws that is in operation there.

00:49:11.760 And make no mistake, he made it very clear that I would face a violent attack if I went

00:49:16.420 ahead of it.

00:49:16.640 Yeah, I believe every word you're saying, because what this friend of mine, buddy of

00:49:20.560 mine, told me is that if embassy officials at that time, I don't know if it's still the

00:49:24.860 case, had to go to those areas on any kind of business or to pick up a package, whatever

00:49:30.480 it may have been, to get their car repaired, they were at that point instructed to either

00:49:35.040 take members of the Marine security detail, or someone from the regional security officer's

00:49:39.500 diplomatic security service squad with them, as protection, they weren't allowed to go

00:49:44.920 alone.

00:49:45.680 I mean, so that tells you that what that's telling you is the local cops aren't going

00:49:49.240 to come in there and help you.

00:49:50.780 Yes, absolutely.

00:49:52.040 Because they are often intimidated.

00:49:53.760 There was recently an incident in Germany, I couldn't believe it.

00:49:56.680 There was a, no, I'm sorry, in Italy, a Muslim migrant was being deported, or he was, they

00:50:04.240 were trying to deport him.

00:50:05.780 And four police officers approached him.

00:50:09.020 He broke the windshield of their police car and overpowered all four of them by himself

00:50:13.580 and got away.

00:50:17.860 I'm one of the super, super tired as police officers in Italy.

00:50:21.720 But the point is that even the police are intimidated in many of these areas.

00:50:27.700 Yeah, I mean, the sad part is, I mean, look, we see it in the UK, we see it in Canada, but

00:50:31.220 let's face it, we're seeing it here in the United States, right?

00:50:33.900 In Minneapolis, St. Paul, this woman who's running to replace Keith Ellison, a Muslim with

00:50:39.380 ties to care, with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, who embraces Hamas.

00:50:42.920 Keith Ellison loves Louis Farrakhan.

00:50:45.240 We're seeing this woman, her name escapes me at the moment, running to replace him, who's

00:50:49.080 openly hostile toward Israel.

00:50:50.820 Yes, Ilhan Omar.

00:50:53.240 Ilhan Omar, that's her name, yes.

00:50:54.340 Thanks, Robert.

00:50:54.940 It's interesting because she married her brother a few years back.

00:50:59.480 It was not a case of depravity.

00:51:02.700 It was a case of immigration fraud. 0.76

00:51:06.020 And of course, nothing has been done because she is a Muslim politician. 1.00

00:51:11.240 She's thus can't be touched.

00:51:13.380 She's got leftist privilege. 0.53

00:51:15.180 You know, the left would cry Islamophobia if anything were done to prosecute her. 1.00

00:51:19.400 And she's likely to be in the United States Congress in next year. 0.99

00:51:23.320 Yeah, I was shocked that it actually looks well.

00:51:25.580 I mean, it's a little Mogadishu, right?

00:51:26.920 That area where she's running. 0.68

00:51:28.880 Yeah.

00:51:29.500 So it's very likely to win.

00:51:31.380 Yeah, it's terrible.

00:51:32.320 All right.

00:51:32.520 Let's switch gears before we have to let you go.

00:51:34.960 I want to talk about this very, very troubling report out of Gaza.

00:51:38.880 Hamas is apparently preparing 5,000 kite bombs to be used against Israel to mark the end of Ramadan.

00:51:47.980 What in the world is going on?

00:51:49.780 I'm just glad that I'm also reading that Israeli, that IDF snipers, have some new sighting technology that's going to enable them to shoot these things out of the air. 0.73

00:51:56.500 Well, you know, the Gaza protesters who have been at the border now for quite some time have been using kites.

00:52:04.700 Often the kites are marked as wassiders.

00:52:07.060 And they put Molotov cocktails on these kites.

00:52:10.160 They have burned at least 6,000 acres of Israeli farmland by doing these things. 0.96

00:52:15.420 And then the U.N. actually this morning condemned Israel yet again for resisting these supposedly peaceful protesters.

00:52:23.600 And now they're going to have bombs on the kites.

00:52:26.120 Who knows what kind of havoc they're going to be able to wreak.

00:52:29.200 But this indicates yet again these are not peaceful protesters.

00:52:32.720 They have never been peaceful protesters.

00:52:35.040 And the U.N. really ought to be ashamed of itself for continuing to validate this false narrative.

00:52:41.300 And we know how this is going to play out.

00:52:42.620 The IDF is going to wind up shooting a couple of terrorists and all of a sudden it's going to be the Israeli defense force attached, innocent, paraplegic, poor Palestinians who are only seeking asylum in Israel. 1.00

00:52:54.040 And the entire narrative about the kite bombs and the Hamas terrorists is going to be thrown by the wayside by the international leftist media, right?

00:53:00.360 That's right.

00:53:01.060 It's coming.

00:53:01.780 It's 100% certain.

00:53:03.260 You got it.

00:53:03.840 Robert Spencer is always my friend.

00:53:05.100 An absolute pleasure.

00:53:05.980 We have to do this more often.

00:53:07.040 Always, always interesting.

00:53:08.040 And I really want to catch up with you offline about this politician in Minneapolis.

00:53:11.800 This is really interesting.

00:53:13.100 Let's do that story next week.

00:53:15.300 Okay, John.

00:53:15.900 Thanks.

00:53:16.280 Call me anytime.

00:53:17.100 Take care.

00:53:17.380 Take care.

00:53:17.420 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - June 15, 2018

Off The Cuff Declassified： IG report, Clinton emails, Kurt Schlichter, Censoring the migrant crisis

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