Rebel News Podcast - Off The Cuff Declassified： IG Report hearings, Immigration, Thugs in Chicago, communist Army cadet

00:00:00.000 Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, we'll analyze yesterday's Senate Judiciary Committee hearing

00:00:04.920 on the IG report. The immigration debate rages, but there's a lot of bad information out there.

00:00:10.860 We'll cut through it and give you the facts. Thug culture in Chicago wants to be able to 1.00

00:00:16.980 carjack you without repercussions. I'm going to tell you all about that. And the army finally

00:00:22.140 boots a communist cadet. Yesterday's Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on the IG report in

00:00:32.840 which Inspector General Michael Horowitz and FBI Director Christopher Wray were present and

00:00:37.080 answering questions. We'll get into that fiasco in a second. Got off to a great start as Iowa Senator

00:00:43.220 Chuck Grassley basically called former FBI Director, fired disgraced FBI Director on a book tour,

00:00:49.640 James Comey a liar. Chuck Grassley then doubled down on Twitter. Grassley claims that Comey's

00:00:57.420 attorney said Comey could not present himself before the committee because he was out of the

00:01:01.880 country. But Grassley correctly noted that James Comey was reading photos from Iowa only a day or

00:01:09.600 two before and that there was no indication that James Comey was leaving the country. Grassley went

00:01:15.000 on to say that Comey merely leaving the FBI is not reason enough for him to refuse to testify before

00:01:21.320 the committee. And I think that the senator is a hundred percent right. The senator is a hundred percent

00:01:29.000 right. James Comey purposefully avoided that committee. Why would he do that? Well, we learned from

00:01:37.140 Inspector General Michael Horowitz that James Comey is under investigation for leaking information.

00:01:43.660 To his friend, of course, the professor at Columbia, who then leaked it to the New York Times. Now, my basic

00:01:49.780 takeaway from the hearing yesterday is that FBI Director Christopher Wray, I don't know if it's cognizant or if

00:01:57.960 it's just his style, but he seems more than apathetic, arrogant, flippant. He doesn't seem like he wants to be

00:02:05.960 there. He doesn't seem like the American people deserve answers. He keeps making excuses as to why the FBI did

00:02:11.940 nothing wrong. And I was glad that several senators, Senator Kennedy put him on notice. It's ludicrous. It is ludicrous

00:02:19.680 for both Michael Horowitz and Christopher Wray to say, well, it was a small group of people within the FBI. Okay. If it

00:02:27.580 were four or five agents in an Oklahoma field office sending texts about Hillary Clinton, how much they loved her and how

00:02:37.480 much they hated Donald Trump and how they would do all they can to stop Donald Trump, that would be

00:02:42.700 insignificant. When it was Andrew McCabe, the Deputy Director, when James Comey was leaking information,

00:02:49.840 when Peter Strzok, the lead investigator on the Hillary email case, on the General Flynn case, one of

00:02:56.600 Mueller's lead investigators until his text became public, when it was Lisa Page, an FBI attorney who reported

00:03:03.960 to the director and the deputy director, when those were the few players involved, when it was the top

00:03:09.980 of the FBI, that's a game changer. How dare Horowitz and Ray downplay that? How dare they? It's an insult

00:03:20.680 to the American people. Now, interesting, interestingly, I thought one of the best lines of questioning,

00:03:27.940 one of the most powerful, came from South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. I've always been critical of

00:03:32.980 Graham. I should say always, often been. But lately, Senator Graham's been on the mark. He was a rabid,

00:03:39.240 a rabid never-Trumper in the election, a rabid never-Trumper. But Senator Graham's come around.

00:03:44.540 He started to see that Trump's policies are working. More importantly, though, I think Lindsey Graham,

00:03:50.640 while I don't agree with Lindsey Graham's politics, is an honorable enough guy. He's an Air Force

00:03:55.760 officer, a senior officer in the United States Air Force. He was a prosecutor for a long time. He's a

00:04:01.400 defense attorney for a long time. Lindsey Graham understands how the law works. He was incredulous.

00:04:07.740 He basically asked a question that I was hoping someone would ask. I hadn't seen anybody ask.

00:04:14.600 And it was a question that I've raised on the show and that I've tweeted out.

00:04:20.240 Gross negligence is a criminal standard, right? What did Comey say Hillary did? She was extremely careless. 1.00

00:04:30.300 Lindsay Graham got Michael Horowitz, the DOJ inspector general, to admit that there is no definition difference

00:04:39.940 between gross negligence and extremely careless. But there's a significant legal difference because the term gross

00:04:48.220 negligence that was in the original report generated on Hillary Clinton is a level of criminal culpability.

00:04:55.760 If the words Hillary Clinton had been grossly negligence, if the words Hillary Clinton had been grossly

00:04:59.080 negligent were included in that report, that would then force a criminal referral to the Department

00:05:06.400 of Justice. By using the words extremely careless, extremely careless is not a legalized standard

00:05:14.920 level of criminal culpability. In terms of language, they mean the same. But in legalese,

00:05:22.600 in prosecutorial speak, they're light years apart. And the changing of grossly negligent

00:05:30.120 to extremely careless was incredibly, incredibly significant, incredibly significant.

00:05:39.660 And I was I was very, very glad that Lindsey Graham brought that up. I was also very glad that Lindsey Graham

00:05:44.980 made the point, and I thought he did it incredibly powerfully in plain speak, no legalese, that how in the

00:05:52.560 world could you expect any reasonable person to believe that the lead investigator on a case who was

00:06:00.360 saying in his texts, who is mistress, will stop Trump, who chose not to prosecute Hillary, who presided over

00:06:09.160 an investigation where the report on Hillary had language change from the criminal standard of grossly negligent to the

00:06:14.660 non-criminal standard of extremely careless? How in the world can you, the inspector general, generate a report

00:06:20.980 saying you didn't think there was political bias? And I'm paraphrasing Senator Graham, when every American could see

00:06:26.840 there was nine year olds could see there was if you explained it to them in the way, the very effective way, I thought

00:06:33.580 Senator Lindsey Graham explained it to the audience, to America, and the way he questioned

00:06:39.000 Michael Horowitz. There also, in my opinion, were not enough questions on Peter Strzok. We found out that Peter

00:06:46.420 Strzok is going to be administratively investigated, but I don't like that. I don't like that. Now, it remains

00:06:55.860 to be seen if Peter Strzok did anything criminal. I don't believe Peter Strzok did anything criminal. It's

00:07:01.340 reprehensible as what Peter Strzok did was. As I study this, as I analyze this every day for you,

00:07:08.540 many, many times a day, I can't find any criminality on the part of Peter Strzok. And I don't want to be

00:07:17.260 a hypocrite. I don't want to say people should be prosecuted who shouldn't. And I don't want people who

00:07:21.280 should be prosecuted not to be. Andrew McCabe should be prosecuted. I believe James Comey should be

00:07:27.380 prosecuted. Peter Strzok should be fired. He should be stripped of his pension and benefits.

00:07:32.640 He should never have credentials that say retired from the FBI. But I see no criminality on his part.

00:07:39.200 There's no reason for him to be criminally referred to DOJ, just shamed as a political partisan who

00:07:45.220 weaponized his office. Now, we learned, and here's a story from the Washington Examiner. We learned,

00:07:51.840 and here's what it says, that the Justice Department Officer Inspector General is looking into former FBI

00:07:56.360 Director James Comey's decision to give his personal memos to a friend outside the government.

00:08:03.360 Inspector General Michael Horowitz testified yesterday, quote, we received a referral on that

00:08:07.920 from the FBI. We are handling that referral, and we will issue a report when the matter is completed.

00:08:13.200 So it may very well shake out that James Comey is criminally referred for prosecution

00:08:19.320 to the Department of Justice, as he should be, as he should be. Now, Comey, if you remember this,

00:08:27.580 back in 2017, told Congress that he did release the memos, but as a private citizen. Now, James Comey,

00:08:35.320 Director of the FBI, before that, Senior Department of Justice official, knows full well, knows full well,

00:08:42.900 that when you leave government service, you cannot divulge classified information. Your security

00:08:49.900 clearance and the provisions that go along with that about keeping classified and confidential

00:08:54.840 information confidential don't end when you leave the building. They don't end when you leave the

00:09:00.880 building. They stay with you for the rest of your life. The only time, the only time you can release

00:09:06.580 that information is if the information is declassified by the original classifying authority.

00:09:13.440 And in many of these instances, that would be the President of the United States.

00:09:17.580 And so I didn't see that happen. And I don't know what Comey is talking about. Now, Comey

00:09:22.300 admitted, let me read this to you because they did a good job here at the Examiner.

00:09:26.780 Comey has admitted to giving at least one of his memos with his friend, Daniel Richman, a former

00:09:31.260 federal prosecutor and current Columbia Law School professor, with the hopes he would

00:09:36.140 leak them and put pressure on the Justice Department to appoint a special counsel to

00:09:42.280 investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election. So Comey, knowing he rigged the game

00:09:49.840 in the investigation for Hillary or colluded with people to do it, then wanted to hurt Donald Trump

00:09:54.800 even more. So instead of being a man and getting out in front of it, he decided to go through his

00:10:02.180 buddy leak memos to get Mueller appointed. Now, Mueller's jam should be shut down. Mueller was

00:10:11.240 only appointed based on an illegal leak, an illegal leak by a fired guy, a guy who now Rod Rosenstein's

00:10:22.320 memo, members of Congress who referred him criminally for Comey criminally and the inspector general

00:10:28.460 report all say should have been fired. Mueller can't find can't find evidence of Russia collusion,

00:10:36.520 right? So his new pivot, his new trajectory is to investigate Trump for obstruction of justice.

00:10:44.800 That obstruction of justice, of course, being firing James Comey. But how can it be obstruction of

00:10:50.020 justice if the deputy attorney general who appointed Mueller, members of Congress and now the DOJ

00:10:58.160 inspector general all feel James Comey should have been fired? James Comey is now under a criminal

00:11:04.760 investigation by the DOJ inspector general for leaking classified information. Trump's firing him

00:11:12.720 isn't just vindicated. It's proven to be vital and necessary to national security. We often talk about

00:11:21.080 the president being able to fire the FBI director for any reason. I refer back to a 2011 memo generated by

00:11:27.560 Barack Obama's Department of Justice and generated in a very ironic and interesting fashion for a very ironic

00:11:34.640 interesting reason. That memo was generated in 2011 by Obama's DOJ when Obama was asking Congress to extend

00:11:43.300 Robert Mueller's tenure a few years as FBI director. Congress was concerned. They said, well, we don't want

00:11:49.380 another J. Edgar Hoover situation with an all powerful director of the FBI. And the DOJ reassured Congress,

00:11:58.380 don't worry, that'll never happen because the president of the United States at any time

00:12:04.360 for any reason can fire the FBI director. He doesn't even need a reason. The president can just decide

00:12:10.160 he's not doing a good job. And it can be a completely subjective and arbitrary feeling of the president of

00:12:18.800 the United States. So Trump never needed justification to fire Comey. Rosenstein's letter gave him a second

00:12:28.040 opinion from a ranking member in DOJ. Members of Congress referring Comey criminally to DOJ backed

00:12:36.100 that up further with the OIG report. And now this investigation into Comey illegally leaking,

00:12:42.340 as I said, made the firing not only justifiable, which Trump didn't even need, but optically

00:12:50.160 justifiable. Comey's firing was necessary and vital to national security and the integrity of the FBI

00:12:58.600 and classified information held by the FBI. It is ludicrous, ludicrous that we're still having a

00:13:07.380 debate as to whether or not James Comey, James Comey's firing was obstruction of justice. It's simply

00:13:16.580 ludicrous. Ludicrous. But Robert Mueller rages on. Now, Senator Orrin Hatch ripped the FBI and

00:13:27.360 Christopher Wray on an appalling report. Senator Orrin Hatch from Utah is retiring. Mitt Romney wants

00:13:33.020 to run for office there. I think that Romney is an enemy of this president. I think he wants to be in

00:13:36.880 the Senate so that he can work on impeachment and removal of Donald Trump. Senator Orrin Hatch said,

00:13:43.880 quote, this is appalling, and the significance of these findings cannot be over dated. Wow. Wow.

00:13:54.860 The report identifies, this is all from Senator Orrin Hatch, the report identifies missteps at every

00:14:00.560 level of the Department of Justice, from our nation's chief federal law enforcement officer to special

00:14:06.840 agents in the field. Director Wray, I have to say that I was disappointed by your response last week

00:14:13.120 to the inspector general report. Well, let's remember who that small number of employees

00:14:20.540 was, because Wray, in his press conference last week, as I said earlier in this segment,

00:14:25.960 kept saying, well, it's a small number of employees. But as Senator Orrin Hatch points out,

00:14:30.500 this wasn't five agents in an Oklahoma field office, Director Wray. He says, so let's not pretend

00:14:36.660 like this was some one-off problem. There is a serious problem with the culture at FBI headquarters.

00:14:46.080 And he's right. And Christopher Wray has instilled zero confidence in the American people.

00:14:54.040 Christopher Wray has instilled zero confidence in the American people.

00:14:58.260 Now, Senator John Kennedy, a Republican from Louisiana, oppressed the Department of Justice.

00:15:05.100 And Senator John Kennedy said to, I believe it was Inspector General Michael Horowitz,

00:15:12.460 he asked him if he believed in the tooth fairy, in the tooth fairy. It was an epic exchange. Let me read

00:15:21.680 it to you. He says to Michael Horowitz, General, meaning Inspector General, do you believe in the

00:15:28.260 tooth fairy? And Horowitz said, nope. Senator Kennedy said, do you believe in the Easter bunny?

00:15:34.400 And Inspector General Michael Horowitz said, nope. Kennedy then said, do you believe that Jimmy Hoffa died

00:15:39.860 of natural causes? And Horowitz said, uh, not based on what I've read. Then Senator Kennedy said,

00:15:45.880 do you honestly believe that the American people are going to look at this report and look at those

00:15:50.900 emails and not believe there was bias and people acting on bias and that the fix was in at the FBI?

00:15:59.200 Horowitz then engaged in what I believe to be a whitewash. I completely understand the concern,

00:16:05.140 Senator. And that's why we've laid all this out here. And that's why we found that it impacts

00:16:08.200 the credibility of the handling and the investigation. And what we say here is not,

00:16:13.220 as Senator Crapel mentioned, which is that there was no bias, but rather when we were asked to look

00:16:18.640 at what we were asked to look at was whether the specific decisions we reviewed were affected

00:16:24.620 by bias. And those particular decisions here were, that we're talking about, were decisions made mostly

00:16:31.180 by the prosecutors, not by any of the individuals you just indicated there. And where there was that

00:16:36.880 concern, which was in October, where Agent Stroke was in fact a decision maker, it's precisely why we

00:16:42.300 found the concern we found. The problem in Horowitz's answer is that also in the IG report,

00:16:48.980 we saw very similar Trump hating, we'll take care of him texts from unidentified attorneys at the

00:16:57.980 Department of Justice. So now a group of hate, eight house Republican hate, I hate the report,

00:17:03.840 a group of eight house Republicans is asking DOJ inspector, Michael Horowitz, inspector general,

00:17:09.660 to give them the names of the FBI employees and others who were not identified in the report.

00:17:17.020 This is very, very important because we can't have the inspector general saying, well,

00:17:23.240 we were concerned about Stroke, but he didn't make the final decisions. That's why we found no bias.

00:17:29.080 We found no bias because the people who made the final decisions didn't text things that were biased.

00:17:34.300 But we don't know that though, right? Because there were other texts from unidentified parties.

00:17:40.080 We need to know who those parties were. We need to know where they sat in the food chain of this

00:17:45.240 investigation. That's all very, very relevant and critical information. Now, I'm hoping that today's

00:17:54.120 House Oversight Committee hearing, where you have a much tougher group of people than you do in the

00:18:00.620 Senate, is going to get to the bottom of some of that. I don't feel it will. I'm encouragingly

00:18:06.440 awaiting the inspector general's report on Comey's mishandling of the classified info. I hope that

00:18:12.280 results in a criminal referral. But everything we found out now really does reinforce my desire for

00:18:19.760 the White House to appoint a second special counsel. The immigration debate continues to rage,

00:18:36.980 but there's a problem. A lot of misinformation is the problem. Tremendous, tremendous misinformation.

00:18:43.920 Now, look, we've been speaking about this. Both sides are hysterical, right? Both sides are

00:18:49.400 hysterical and acting ridiculously. The neocon Republicans are acting very stupid,

00:18:55.300 criticizing Trump, and the Democrats are conflating facts. Let me say this. Nobody wants to see little

00:19:02.600 kids crying at the border. Nobody wants to see kids in shelters sobbing, calling for mommy,

00:19:08.060 calling for daddy. That imagery is heartbreaking, but it is not the fault of the United States government.

00:19:14.760 Now, yesterday, I read you some data from the Washington Post, a story from 2015,

00:19:20.280 where 78% of the kids under 17 or 18 were being used by the cartels. That's where the White House

00:19:26.420 is dropping the ball. So yesterday, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen came out and

00:19:31.420 doubled down. She said, look, we don't have a policy of separating children and their families.

00:19:35.500 We simply don't. She's right about that. She also made a very important revelation.

00:19:42.040 Very, very important. Secretary Nielsen explained that of the 12,000 children being held in HHS facilities,

00:19:49.660 Health and Human Services, 10,000 of them were unaccompanied minors at the border. The 2,000

00:19:57.520 that were separatees, separated from their parents, when you read the facts, when you get away from the

00:20:04.480 spin, were removed for one of three reasons. And we talked about it yesterday. The authorities felt,

00:20:12.040 they were in danger. A custodial or parental relationship between the child and the adult

00:20:19.020 they were with could not be established. It couldn't be proven whether that person was the

00:20:24.500 parent or the legal custodial guardian or the adult they were with, be it the parent or legal custodial

00:20:31.360 guardian, if it was, was subject to a criminal proceeding. You can't send the kid to jail.

00:20:38.900 You can't leave the kid with somebody that may be a human trafficker. And if the kid is malnourished

00:20:44.860 or abused, you can't leave the kid with the adult. It's exactly like I said yesterday, the same as what

00:20:52.160 domestic law enforcement does every single day. But let's focus on the other number.

00:20:58.920 Secretary Nielsen told us that 10,000 of the 12,000 were unaccompanied at the border.

00:21:06.700 What the White House and DHS is doing a horrible job messaging on is that a vast, vast number,

00:21:14.940 to use Secretary Nielsen's words, a vast, vast, of that 10,000 were probe kids. In other words,

00:21:22.280 these kids are being used as probes by the drug cartels for smuggling or the coyotes,

00:21:29.420 human traffickers, to test our border security, to test what would happen if an underage person

00:21:37.120 came into the U.S. Would they be sent back? Would they be incarcerated? Would they be detained? Would

00:21:44.040 they be let go? So the Democrats and the neocons and everybody hysterical over some photos from 2014

00:21:52.940 and some out-of-context video, what they're actually arguing for, beknownst to some, unbeknownst to others,

00:22:00.240 is to send these children back to the cartels and the coyotes, when right now 10,000 of them are safely

00:22:08.940 in HHS shelters. This debate has just gotten dumb, partially because the White House communications

00:22:18.940 team is not doing a very good job of explaining it. Secretary Nielsen over at Homeland Security is

00:22:25.760 doing an okay job, but they're leaving out the criminal element, the criminal element that was

00:22:30.860 the catalyst for the kids coming. That's incredibly disturbing and problematic. Very, very disturbing

00:22:42.520 and problematic. Look, no one, again, no one wants to rip a kid from their parents' arms. We talked

00:22:48.880 about it yesterday. If you come legally to this country to a port of entry or point of entry and

00:22:54.780 you say, I'm seeking asylum, your child won't be taken. But if you're coming across the Rio Grande in

00:23:01.120 the dead of night and we can't prove the kid is yours or the kid is all banged up or you've got a

00:23:07.600 warrant or an ICE detainer from when you were in the country the last time or the last five times ago,

00:23:12.520 you're going to lose your kid. We're not hiding that. We're not hiding it. You know,

00:23:19.920 immigration is a tough issue. Criminal justice in general is a tough issue, but immigration is a

00:23:24.900 tough issue because of the little kids, right? Law enforcement, I said this to you on the show

00:23:32.080 and we discussed police-involved shooting, things of that nature. Law enforcement rarely looks pleasant.

00:23:38.300 Law enforcement rarely sounds pleasant because the police are typically interacting with you when

00:23:46.160 things went sideways. It could be something as tragic as a murder or a rape. It could be something

00:23:51.760 as, you know, innocuous as a broken window or a prowler that didn't break into your home.

00:23:57.940 But it's usually for something negative. You never call 911 to say, hey, I'm having a great day.

00:24:04.940 Send the police over. Things couldn't be better. Why don't you send a cop? It just doesn't work that

00:24:09.080 way. So when you're interacting with the police, it's typically for something negative that happened,

00:24:15.180 whether to you or if you're being arrested by you, right? So law enforcement's never going to look

00:24:22.740 pleasant. So it's very easy to go into these shelters and take these videos and take these

00:24:27.400 photos and play this audio. And the whole country goes, oh, my God, Trump's a Nazi. He's a white 0.59

00:24:32.200 supremacist. He hates children. He's ripping them from the arms of their brown Latin American parents.

00:24:36.920 But it's not the case. We're simply doing what law enforcement has always done.

00:24:42.380 Just that in this case, in this instance, on this issue, the left is actually doing a good

00:24:47.420 messaging job. They've made the debate about separate children. What needs to happen is the

00:24:54.840 White House and Department of Homeland Security need to show each case, you know, child, don't name

00:25:01.480 them their kids, protect their identity. Unidentified minor one, caught at the border, admitted they were

00:25:06.600 sent to the border by the Sinaloa cartel. Unidentified minor two, caught at the border in an HHS facility,

00:25:12.640 admitted that they were sent by human traffickers to penetrate our border defenses. And unaccompanied

00:25:16.960 minor three, and so on and so on and so on, and put up big charts and say to the Democrats,

00:25:23.460 yes or no, Nancy Pelosi? Yes or no, Gerald Nadler? Yes or no, Chuck Schumer? Do you want us to send

00:25:30.300 these children back to these adults? Because they're not the parents. Do you want us to send

00:25:36.440 these kids back to their parents in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, who sold them

00:25:42.500 to the human traffickers? Do you want that? We'll do it. But we want you on record, saying you want

00:25:49.620 it. We're going to turn it over to you and you own it. And that's where the White House and DHS are

00:25:56.280 making a very, very big mistake. Let Democrats own this issue if they want to own this issue.

00:26:01.900 If Democrats, neocons, liberals, libertarians want to pick this hill to die on, let them. Let them.

00:26:10.940 If they truly want to be the party, the movement, the ideologies, the people who argue to send kids

00:26:17.280 back to drug cartels and human traffickers, let's play ball. But they don't. They're not thinking that

00:26:24.980 far ahead, right? They're not thinking that far ahead. No, this is a good optic. Screaming,

00:26:30.500 crying children, Trump is evil. And that's it. And look, I got to commend them. I've got to commend

00:26:36.500 the Democratic strategist. It's a good strategy. It's working. It's working. American public sentiment

00:26:42.920 is turning against. American public sentiment is turning against the. I have a study here

00:26:50.060 against the Trump administration on this one, because the Trump administration is not messaging.

00:26:54.980 Poll. Americans overwhelmingly blast family separations at border. That's from a Newsmax

00:27:00.020 piece. It's a Quinnipiac University poll. American voters oppose 66% to 27% Donald Trump's zero

00:27:08.020 tolerance policy involving the separating of families. The survey conducted among 905 voters

00:27:15.760 nationwide from June 14th to 17th also found Republican voters support the separation policy 55 to 35,

00:27:24.200 but are the only listed party, gender, education, age, or racial group to agree with it.

00:27:29.760 Voters also support 79% to 15% allowing immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children,

00:27:35.300 so-called dreamers, to remain and ultimately apply for citizenship. Now, I'm going to dig into the

00:27:39.980 cross tabs with you in a second and show you the poll was weighted to the Dems, but

00:27:42.920 American voters oppose 58 to 39% building a wall along the border. Not true. The only listed groups

00:27:49.860 support the wall are Republicans and white voters with no college degree. So you can start to see

00:27:54.220 the sample here is skewed, but this poll is making news. The Trump administration has been too

00:28:00.440 aggressive in deporting illegals, 50% of voters say. 13% say the administration has not been aggressive

00:28:06.120 enough, and 33% say the administration has been acting appropriately. Illegal immigrants currently living in 1.00

00:28:11.320 the U.S. should be allowed to stay and eventually apply for citizenship. 67% of American voters say

00:28:16.400 no. Another 8% say they should be allowed to stay but not become citizens. 19% say they should be

00:28:21.220 forced to leave. Among Republicans, 48% say illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay and apply for

00:28:27.320 citizenship, while 9% say they should be allowed to stay but not become citizens. 36% say they should

00:28:33.340 be forced to leave. Legal immigration in the U.S. should be increased, 30% of American voters say.

00:28:38.560 17% say it should be decreased. 49% say it should be kept the same. But let's dig into the crosstabs of

00:28:49.120 this poll. Let's look specifically. Now, here we go. And here's the problem. Of those sampled,

00:28:56.320 only 26% were Republican, 31% Democrat, 39% independent, and 5% other. And therein lies the problem.

00:29:10.080 Therein lies the problem. Because I guarantee you, a vast portion of those identifying as independent

00:29:16.760 are hard left, the Democratic Party is too conservative for them. This poll is not weighted

00:29:26.340 properly to identify the American electorate or to survey the American electorate. And that's the

00:29:34.080 problem with polls. But now you have this poll being touted as proof that Americans are against

00:29:41.220 Trump's policy. But the problem is, the people that will vote for Donald Trump in 2020 don't care

00:29:46.120 about these polls. That's the problem for Democrats. And so while the White House is messaging terribly,

00:29:52.500 and Homeland Security is messaging poorly, at the end of the day, none of it will matter.

00:29:58.440 You didn't think I was going to go there, did you? It simply won't matter. Because people who vote for

00:30:05.320 Donald Trump will vote for Donald Trump understand what he's doing here. Immigration is a tough issue.

00:30:11.680 Very tough issue. It's a sad issue. It's a tough issue. We need to take a hard line on it. A hard line

00:30:18.720 that'll often look bad. A hard line that won't seem pleasant. And that's what Trump and the Trump

00:30:25.520 administration are doing right now. They're taking that hard line. Now look, again, I said it. Nobody wants

00:30:33.440 to separate little kids from their families. But Democrats throwing out talking points and these skewed

00:30:41.880 polls where they have a gross oversample of left-leaning independents do no justice. Americans see through

00:30:50.800 this. Americans know that 67% of their neighbors don't want illegal immigrants to become citizens or

00:30:56.840 whatever that number was. Americans know that. What was that number again? Let's see. Illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:31:03.880 Yeah, 67% this poll is claiming of Americans are saying that illegal immigrants currently living in

00:31:09.540 the U.S. should be allowed to stay and eventually apply for citizenship. Simply not true. Simply not true.

00:31:19.740 And it's simply ludicrous that they would try to sell this to. I think the Trump administration needs

00:31:26.600 to do exactly what it's doing to solve the immigration problem. We need to get our border 0.91

00:31:30.700 wall. We need to close catch and release loopholes. We need to close chain migration loopholes. We need

00:31:38.320 to explain to the bad guys and even to the illegals who aren't bad guys. They're just coming here that 1.00

00:31:45.480 your kids and that kids and your kids are no longer insurance policies and get out of jail free cards.

00:31:53.040 They're not. It won't be anymore. We need to get tough on this issue. Very, very tough on this issue.

00:32:00.660 I think the Trump administration is on the right track. They need to do a bit better job with their

00:32:04.200 messaging. But if they do that, I think they're going to win this one in a much bigger way than anyone

00:32:10.080 ever, ever thought they would. Sometimes I read a story or watch a story from a mainstream media

00:32:25.780 outlet and I can't believe I'm not reading theonion.com or watching some parody from Saturday

00:32:32.640 net live this from the Chicago Tribune. When has it ever become legal to shoot someone

00:32:39.800 because they're pulling off in your car? Yeah, this is a piece in the Chicago Tribune

00:32:45.420 that essentially wants carjackers armed, by the way, we're going to get to that from someone who

00:32:50.860 claims to be a firearm instructor, wants you to essentially just give an armed carjacker your

00:32:55.620 vehicle and let them go. Even if you're armed, it is, it is mind-blowingly stupid. Here's how they

00:33:01.280 start the story. Janique Walker knows the cost of a split second. Her younger brother, 17-year-old

00:33:07.720 Charles Macklin, was killed while trying to steal a Jeep from a Chicago fire lieutenant on the west

00:33:13.300 side last August. The lieutenant had left the Jeep running and Macklin jumped behind the wheel.

00:33:19.280 The lieutenant ran in front of the Jeep and shouted, get out. According to a police report,

00:33:24.580 when Macklin began pulling away, the lieutenant drew his gun and fired through the open driver's side

00:33:29.640 window, hitting the teen in the chest. Macklin's last words were, sorry, bro. According to the

00:33:36.700 police report, the teen died on the pavement. He did not have a gun on him. The lieutenant had a

00:33:42.120 concealed carry license. He wasn't charged, all right? Wasn't charged by Chicago PD. Chicago PD's

00:33:49.240 spokesman Langford said, quote, that was investigated by us and we found no violation of any rules.

00:33:54.020 Police didn't arrest. State attorney's office found no reason to charge. There was no,

00:33:58.300 oh, I'm sorry. This is a fire department spokesman. There was no wrongdoing as far as the fire

00:34:02.000 department is concerned. Now, now, that was from fire department, Chicago fire department spokesman,

00:34:09.800 Larry Langford. Are these people nuts? He didn't have a gun, but he was behind the wheel of a ton and a

00:34:15.960 half Jeep. The fire lieutenant stepped in front of his own vehicle that was being carjacked,

00:34:23.240 said stop, and the guy began to pull toward him. So he let a round go. A totally justifiable shooting

00:34:30.140 because a bullet from a handgun always 124 grains. A Jeep weighs about 3,000 pounds.

00:34:39.860 Ridiculous. So the sister has been organizing protests and started a Facebook page and she wants 1.00

00:34:46.240 justice for her brother, the carjacker. Her brother, the carjacker, who got shot carjacking somebody,

00:34:52.340 he's apparently the victim in this case. When has it ever become legal to shoot someone because

00:34:56.820 they're pulling off in your car? Even if he did that, if he did steal that car, you've got insurance.

00:35:03.980 Let him go to jail. I would rather had a call to go bail him out of jail. Then they get a phone call

00:35:08.360 that he's dead. But what if he and his friends got all hopped up on drugs, took that 3,000 pound

00:35:13.360 Jeep for a ride and killed a family? What if he ran over the fire lieutenant? We'll never know

00:35:18.960 because the fire lieutenant legally, legally stopped the crime.

00:35:26.040 Now, there's another guy in here that I have no use for. David Lombardo. This guy's a moron,

00:35:31.500 a moron. A concealed carry instructor said he has trained more than 7,000 people to get state

00:35:37.520 licenses said this is my favorite. He would let an armed carjacker take his car. This guy should have

00:35:45.440 his licensure pulled, his certification pulled, because he's telling his students that they should

00:35:51.760 assume the guy pointing a gun at them won't kill them. He said, quote, you want my car? You can have

00:35:57.600 it. And I'll hand over a credit card for gas, too. I'm not going to defend a car with a gun. That's

00:36:02.840 what insurance is for. I'll get a better one. What a moron. What a moron teaching people their

00:36:10.300 concealed weapons license classes. Does this moron understand how many people have been executed

00:36:16.720 for no reason subsequent to a robbery because the robber doesn't want to leave a victim and he's

00:36:22.560 telling them to just hand it over and not use their firearm to protect themselves? Sickening,

00:36:28.640 absolutely sickening. Sickening. Thug culture. Let's let's call this what it is. Thug culture. 1.00

00:36:40.840 Thug culture. Wants to be allowed to carjack you without repercussions. Liberals in Chicago are 0.95

00:36:46.540 helping him, as is the Chicago Tribune. Now, the Illinois State Police backed up the fire lieutenant.

00:36:53.460 Backed up the fire lieutenant. So the Chicago Tribune did another profile. Shootings by concealed

00:36:59.700 carry license holders, including homeowners, security guards and store clerks. 38 shootings,

00:37:04.920 one threatening incident in 365,000 Illinois residents who have the concealed weapons license

00:37:11.460 at 2% of the state's adult population. Many of these are what you'd expect. An armed assailant

00:37:20.820 and once concealed weapons license holder was charged, he opened fire on gangbangers,

00:37:26.960 though no witness reported seeing them. Armed assailant. One man with his concealed weapons

00:37:34.060 license used his gun to scare them away. Attackers beating people. He was, one was an accidental

00:37:43.560 discharge. Most of these, though, are people stopping either accidental discharges where

00:37:48.500 they're hurting themselves, maybe because they're trained by an idiot like that guy Lombardo.

00:37:51.720 But most of these are either armed assailants committing robberies or other attacks and or

00:38:00.920 threatening people or things of that nature or somebody. So either the concealed license holder

00:38:06.580 was the victim or they were intervening to help someone else being attacked, robbed,

00:38:11.720 something of that nature. The vast majority of the 38, the vast majority of the 38.

00:38:16.240 But Chicago is charging concealed weapons license holders more than most other places are. It's

00:38:24.060 telling me the training is poor. But 38 incidents over the course of, let's say, they start the

00:38:30.960 reporting in June and this goes back to about a year, actually about a year. I was going way back.

00:38:37.680 So this goes back to 2015. I'm sorry, April 2014. So in the last four years, there have been 38

00:38:47.080 concealed carry license holders in Illinois. I'm assuming most of these in Chicago and around

00:38:54.180 Chicago out of 200 and I think I said 56,000 concealed weapons license. So very yet to 65,000. So the

00:39:02.740 numbers are very, very low. It would telling me is that Illinois concealed license holders like

00:39:07.600 every other concealed license holder in the United States or the, or the vast majority,

00:39:12.000 the vast majority are very responsible people. And the vast majority of those who use their guns,

00:39:17.680 sure, there are the incidents of people misusing them or, but over four years here, over four

00:39:22.980 years, there have only been one. I'm going to tell you how many concealed weapons license holders

00:39:30.400 were charged. Two, three, four, five, six, seven. Uh, let's see what else we got here. Seven. Uh,

00:39:42.160 yep. We're back in 2015. We got it. We're at seven. Yep. So over the last four years and three months,

00:39:49.120 the police in Illinois only charged seven of the 265,000 people who have concealed weapons licenses

00:39:57.800 with misusing the firearm. Seven out of 265,000 people, another 31 people use those weapons.

00:40:09.500 I bet 30 or 29 or 32 were accidental discharges. They drew the gun. They got themselves in the hand

00:40:14.380 or the foot. So I think it was 29 of those 260,000 use their weapons, use their weapons legally

00:40:22.120 inappropriately to help themselves to stop an attack on themselves or someone else. Two accidental

00:40:27.140 discharges shot themselves. It happens. And seven charged criminally with misusing their firearm.

00:40:33.720 I'd say those numbers bode incredibly well for the restraint and adherence to law by concealed

00:40:41.660 weapons license. I think that bodes very, very well. And I think this data from Chicago,

00:40:48.320 I'm sure it's driving the liberals nuts here. It's driving the liberals nuts. This data from Chicago

00:40:55.520 is going to add a lot of weight to the debate for national concealed carrier reciprocity.

00:41:03.120 And it's going to add a lot of weight to the debate in states like New York and California

00:41:07.600 that still don't have statewide Maryland, New Jersey statewide issuance of concealed weapons license.

00:41:18.320 Finally, we've got some resolution in a case that should have been resolved a while back.

00:41:29.760 You remember this guy, a West Point graduate, a guy named Spencer Rapone, commissioned as an officer

00:41:35.380 in the United States military, who in a photo had his cadet cap on his chest with the inside turned to

00:41:43.220 the camera. And in that was written communism will win. Communism will win. He was also wearing a

00:41:51.300 Che Guevara t-shirt underneath his military uniform, making a communism fist in that photo with communism

00:41:58.100 will win on the hat. However, he is now no longer part of the U.S. military after top brass, this from Fox

00:42:04.980 News at Fort Drum's 10th Mountain Division, accepted his resignation on Monday after an earlier warning for

00:42:11.540 conduct on becoming an officer. He's leaving the military with an other than honorable discharge.

00:42:19.220 Now, last year, an army statement, a West Point statement, read, quote,

00:42:22.980 Second Lieutenant Rapone's actions in no way reflect the values of the U.S. Military Academy or the U.S. Army.

00:42:30.300 This guy was an open advocate of communism. There were photos of him giving the finger to the sign at Fort Drum

00:42:35.620 captioned one final salute. And then he asked for soldiers to lay down their arms.

00:43:05.620 It was ridiculous. Now, Senator Marco Rubio, a guy I've been critical of, was actually great on this

00:43:11.200 issue. He said, quote, while in uniform, Spencer Rapone advocated for communism and political violence

00:43:16.260 and expressed support and sympathies for enemies of the United States. I'm glad to see that they have 1.00

00:43:21.340 given him an other than honorable discharge. Now, military experts are saying, according to Fox,

00:43:27.860 that it's rare for an officer out of West Point to be given that other than honorable discharge

00:43:32.720 status. That opens the opportunity for the military to seek money back from him for the education he

00:43:39.660 was given at West Point. That's about a half a million dollar education because he couldn't then

00:43:44.320 fulfill his subsequent military commitment. Five years. That was his service obligation to repay the

00:43:51.540 military. And he said, I knew there could be repercussions. He's becoming a prominent far left

00:43:57.160 advocate who will be speaking at a socialism conference next month. He said, quote, of course,

00:44:02.040 my military career is dead in the water. On the other hand, many people reached out and showed me

00:44:06.280 support. There are a lot of veterans, both active duty and not that feel like I do. Well, what needs

00:44:13.040 to happen is a sweeping investigation into those who are active duty, those who are reserved. If they're

00:44:18.620 severed military, retired military, let them believe what they want. They want to be socialist.

00:44:22.280 That's on them. But if they're in the United States Armed Forces, there needs to be a thorough

00:44:27.180 investigation. These people need to be found and need to be dishonorably discharged or other than

00:44:33.500 honorably discharged and kicked out of the military.

Rebel News Podcast - June 19, 2018

Off The Cuff Declassified： IG Report hearings, Immigration, Thugs in Chicago, communist Army cadet

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