Rebel News Podcast - Off The Cuff Declassified： Illegal alien minors, Ned Ryun, shooting in New Jersey

00:00:00.000 Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, the battle rages over separating illegal alien children

00:00:04.460 from their parents at the border. We'll discuss. Political analyst Ned Ryan joins me to discuss

00:00:09.780 the latest on the Mueller probe, immigration, and Congress's war with the DOJ, a mass shooting in

00:00:16.000 New Jersey that you didn't hear about, and the New Jersey governor's ludicrous response,

00:00:21.580 and new privacy concerns over how police are using driver license photos. We'll talk all about it.

00:00:30.000 Donald Trump is horrible, the most terrible human being ever to live, right? I mean, 1.00

00:00:38.280 his policy, his Nazi jackbooted thug, white supremacist, hater of brown people from south 1.00

00:00:46.700 of the border policy is to rip babies from their mother's arms, screaming, outreaching for one 1.00

00:00:53.600 another as they're crossing the border. Except that's really not true. That's what the mainstream

00:00:57.880 media, the Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times is telling you. They've gone as far,

00:01:05.000 they've gone as far as to disgracefully and disgustingly use the term concentration camp.

00:01:13.660 What an insult to the memory of six million Jews killed during the Holocaust. And to add insult to

00:01:19.880 injury, it wasn't just far left commentators. On MSNBC, former RNC Republican National Committee

00:01:26.440 chair, Michael Steele, one of the worst RNC chairs in history, he used the term concentration camp.

00:01:33.580 But wait, there's more. General Michael Hayden, the former CIA and NSA director, he used the term

00:01:42.720 concentration camp. Concentration camp on Twitter actually put up a photo of train tracks leading

00:01:48.780 to a concentration camp. More than use the term, I and many others resoundingly called out General

00:01:55.140 Michael Hayden for daring to compare the honest, ethical, hardworking men and women of Department

00:02:02.500 of Homeland Security, Customs and Border Protection and ICE, Nazi SS, Gestapo. This, the Trump derangement

00:02:11.460 syndrome is off the charts. It's disgusting. People are unhinged. So let's break this down 0.99

00:02:17.700 and explain what's really going on here. All right. First and foremost, first and foremost,

00:02:24.740 the Secretary of Homeland Security, Kirstjen Nielsen, called the media irresponsible. Let me read you a

00:02:31.000 tweet from Secretary Nielsen. Quote, this misreporting by members, meaning members of Congress on the left,

00:02:38.440 press and advocacy groups must stop. It is irresponsible and unproductive. If I, as I have said

00:02:45.700 many times before, if you are seeking asylum for your family, there is no reason to break the law

00:02:55.300 and illegally cross between ports of entry. And this is what's critically important here.

00:03:04.140 And I need to spend some time on this. The left is trying to tell you that the people crossing

00:03:11.580 illegally are asylum seekers. The Secretary of Homeland Security is saying, if you're an asylum

00:03:17.920 seeker, you don't need to cross illegally. Come to a legal port of entry, i.e. a border,

00:03:26.940 a Customs and Border Protection or Immigration and Customs Enforcement Station at a marina,

00:03:32.380 an airport, an airport, and ask for asylum. Request asylum. The Refugee Protection Act of 1967

00:03:44.120 and its update of 1980 affords you protections if you do that. There is no need to swim across the

00:03:53.980 Rio Grande. When you swim across the Rio Grande with your baby in your arms, you risk having your child

00:04:00.660 taken away. If you walk up to a border checkpoint, speak to an ICE agent or a Border Patrol agent and

00:04:09.200 say, I'm seeking asylum. I'm persecuted in my country. Your protections begin. This is very,

00:04:17.660 very simple. Very, very simple. Now, Trump administration is from a Fox News piece, but I'm

00:04:26.400 just parroting what the president said last week. He did an impromptu press conference on Friday

00:04:30.960 morning, really on the lawn of the White House and the driveway of the White House. Fox writes,

00:04:36.600 the Trump administration, which has called it, quote, horrible, that illegal immigrant children are

00:04:40.440 sometimes separated from their parents when their parents enter criminal proceedings, has been

00:04:45.660 criticized in recent weeks for increasing the prosecutions of illegal aliens under a zero-tolerance

00:04:52.260 policy that critics say lead to those separations. However, something else very important in there,

00:04:59.000 another bit of minutiae that's being ignored. In most cases, when someone does come illegally

00:05:06.140 and then requests asylum, they're not supposed to do. The kids that are being removed when you dig

00:05:13.560 into the data are typically kids of parents who have another issue. They've been deported multiple times.

00:05:22.260 They're suspected of a crime in the United States or in their home country. There's an ICE detainer

00:05:28.620 for them. They're on some intelligence watch list for crime, for terror, for narcotics trafficking,

00:05:35.760 for human trafficking. And at that point, authorities have no choice. I cannot tell you how many times as a

00:05:46.620 cop I had to remove kids from their parents. If you go to jail, we don't send the children to jail

00:05:53.220 with you. We don't leave them sitting in the house by themselves. We don't leave them on a sidewalk

00:05:58.640 alone. What do these people on the left in the mainstream media expect ICE to do? Say to a toddler,

00:06:04.320 well, your mom has an immigration detainer, an ICE detainer here, and she's suspected of working with

00:06:09.120 the Sinaloa cartel. But here we go, kid. Here's a bottle of water and some crackers. Mexico's that way.

00:06:15.140 Wear some shade in the desert. Oh, here's some sunscreen. No, no, we can't do that to a four-year-old.

00:06:20.820 Unfortunately, we have to take these children and put them into a shelter to safeguard them.

00:06:25.760 Well, then the critics say, these shelters are locked. There are still gates. Well, yeah.

00:06:29.840 We don't want these four-year-olds running out of the middle of the night into traffic.

00:06:32.520 Of course, we're going to lock the doors. That's what safeguarding is. These are not

00:06:39.320 concentration camps. People aren't being put to work, then systematically wholesale exterminated.

00:06:46.580 It is disgusting to use that term. Reprehensible to use that term.

00:06:53.520 Does a child illegally entering the U.S. is generally separated from adults at the border?

00:06:58.460 Or if a child is in danger, has no clear relationship to the adult, or if the adult

00:07:05.940 enters criminal proceedings? The same exact criteria that domestic law enforcement here

00:07:14.900 in the U.S. follow every single day, hundreds if not thousands of times a day, when removing

00:07:24.740 children from American citizens who endanger the child, are not related to the child. There's no

00:07:31.780 legal guardianship or enter criminal proceedings. Again, I can't tell you how many kids I had to

00:07:37.940 bring down to the Department of Children and Family Services in New York City because I arrested a 0.96

00:07:42.560 parent, and there was no other guardian there. We can't take them on patrol with us. Can't leave

00:07:48.220 them in an NYPD police precinct. Can't leave the kid in the house by themselves or on the sidewalk.

00:07:52.600 They have to go somewhere safe. This is common sense. This has been established law enforcement

00:07:59.500 practice for decades upon decades. It's been established practice for centuries at this point.

00:08:05.740 This is just moronic. Secretary Nielsen went on to say, unequivocally, in a tweet, quote, 0.95

00:08:13.040 we do not have a policy of separating families at the border, period. And she went on to say,

00:08:22.180 you are not breaking the law by seeking asylum at a port of entry. For those, these are tweets from

00:08:29.200 Secretary Nielsen, for those seeking asylum at ports of entry, we have continued the policy from

00:08:36.700 previous administrations and will only separate. If the child is in danger, again, there is no custodial

00:08:44.260 relationship between family members or if the adult has broken a law. But the mere presentation of

00:08:53.900 yourself, of the illegal, two authorities at the border requesting asylum is not under the Refugee

00:09:02.820 Protection Act of 67, then 80, the addendum, the amendment, that is not considered breaking the law.

00:09:12.380 You're being lied to by the mainstream media. You are. This is one of the worst cases of fake news

00:09:19.280 I've ever come across. You are being lied to. You're being lied to. Now, Democrats have been trying to go

00:09:29.960 into detention facilities. We're going to talk about that in a moment. But let's talk about the deafening

00:09:36.240 silence on the left back in 2015. In front of me, I have a Washington Post story. Mexican kids held

00:09:46.080 for months. This is the important part as punishment for border crossing. And you know when this story was

00:09:55.300 from, not last week, not this weekend, March 11th, 2015, during the Obama administration, during the Obama

00:10:06.740 administration. Wow. And these are kids that were smuggled here. These are kids that were smuggled.

00:10:15.820 All right. Tragic. They're little kids. Now, let me read this to you. Last spring,

00:10:24.580 Central American children flooded into Texas. Now, remember, this is March of 2015. They're talking

00:10:29.240 about 2014. This is March of 2015. They're talking about last spring. That's very important because

00:10:35.680 that was spring of 2014. And you remember all those photos we saw of children in cages from the Hill and

00:10:41.420 other places trying to make it seem like it was under Donald Trump? No. Those photos were mostly

00:10:46.340 from around April 2014. So I'm reading this story and remember the context and the date of those

00:10:52.940 photos. Last spring, a Central American children flooded into Texas in a way he had never seen

00:10:57.820 in his three-decade career. Border agent Robert Harris decided to experiment. His intelligence

00:11:04.240 analysts estimated that 78% of the guys smuggling other migrants were Mexicans younger than 18.

00:11:11.420 So the coyotes bringing others across the border illegally were themselves Mexican minors. 0.86

00:11:19.340 Mexicans under 18. Teenagers often hired or conscripted by the drug cartels who knew they

00:11:25.240 would not be prosecuted if caught. And he wanted to attack this loophole. Why don't we remove these

00:11:31.240 juveniles from the smuggling cycle? Harris, the outgoing commander of the Laredo sector of Customs and

00:11:36.680 Border Protection recall thinking. Now, as a result of that decision, young Mexicans are being held for

00:11:43.620 months without charge in shelters across the U.S. Back three years ago. More than three, three years is

00:11:49.260 three months ago. Sometimes without their parents' knowledge. Since the program began in May, 536 juveniles

00:11:55.540 have been held, 248 of whom have been deported to Mexico after an average stay of 75 days. That's according

00:12:03.140 to the Border Patrol. Okay. The Obama administration began this policy because it's important to note

00:12:10.280 that when you see the current photos of these, what look like camps, tents, but the tents of air

00:12:16.360 conditioning and high-speed wireless and video games and other buildings are one shelter. Now,

00:12:24.660 one big shelter for these kids was in a former Walmart building with bedrooms. And look, I'm not

00:12:29.280 going to say these are wonderful places. These are still shelters. And these little kids are ripped

00:12:34.180 from their parents, right? They are. I mean, we are taking them from their parents, but it's necessary.

00:12:40.620 My heart goes out to the, I don't want to see a little two-year-old girl. We've seen the image

00:12:43.820 of her crying hysterically for her mom. My heart bleeds for that. The mom broke the law. 1.00

00:12:50.320 And we can't send that little girl across the desert by herself. It's a terrible situation for law

00:12:57.620 enforcement to be put in. They're doing the right thing. They're doing the right thing. They're

00:13:02.280 putting the kid in a safe facility in a bed with air conditioning, with food, with water, with doctors,

00:13:08.480 with security. It's far safer than the country that kid came from. Sure. One of the problems is

00:13:16.260 they're not allowed to touch the children. They got these crying kids. Nobody can give them a hug.

00:13:19.140 It's heartbreaking. It really, really is heartbreaking. But the mom or the dad are the ones to blame.

00:13:25.200 They came illegally, possibly knowing they had committed other crimes or on an anti-terror or a

00:13:32.900 cartel watch list. This policy began under Barack Obama. The reason I bring up the shelters is that

00:13:40.320 an important note. Department of Homeland Security data tells us that in those shelters,

00:13:47.500 90% were unaccompanied minors. 90% were these scenarios that I just read you. Kids coming to

00:13:56.660 the border alone or were working for the cartels to smuggle. Only 10% of the kids you're seeing in

00:14:03.700 those shelters, these images the mainstream media is trying to use to paint Trump as a Nazi and a white 0.96

00:14:08.360 supremacist and this oppressive dictator. Only 10% were separated from their parents at the border. 0.57

00:14:15.780 Right? And in those instances, as Secretary Nielsen notes, there was a reason. Authorities felt the

00:14:21.960 child was in danger. The parent couldn't care for them. Authorities felt that the parent wasn't really

00:14:27.740 the parent. There was no custodial relationship there. So that individual adult had no right to

00:14:33.800 have that child with them in the first place. Or the parent broke the law. Had a warrant. Had an

00:14:39.980 ICE detainer. Had some, some thing that required a criminal proceeding. And look, we can't send the

00:14:46.240 kids to jail. Can't leave them on the street. Can't give them a bottle of water and send them back

00:14:51.080 across the desert. Right? Can't do it. Now, everybody, everybody is concerned about this. Everybody.

00:14:59.400 First Lady Melania Trump rarely, rarely makes policy statements. Melania Trump made a policy

00:15:07.680 statement. She said that both sides of the aisle need to come together to achieve successful

00:15:11.940 immigration reform. That's a quote. She said she hates to see children separated from their parents. 0.85

00:15:18.740 Her communications director, Stephanie Grisham, told CNN, quote, Mrs. Trump hates to see children 0.98

00:15:23.820 separated from their families and hopes both sides of the aisle can finally come together to achieve

00:15:29.040 successful immigration reform. She believes we need to be a country that follows all laws,

00:15:34.340 but also a country that governs with heart. She's right. Everyone wants this problem solved.

00:15:41.620 Everyone. Now, First Lady Laura Bush, former First Lady Laura Bush, wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post

00:15:48.080 yesterday, and she said basically the same. She said she lives in a border state. She appreciates the

00:15:58.020 need to enforce and protect our international boundaries, but the zero tolerance policy is

00:16:01.800 cruel. It is immoral and it breaks her heart. Well, Obama had the same policy, Mrs. Bush. And let me say,

00:16:08.820 I always thought Laura Bush was a dignified, graceful first lady, always admired her, think she's a very

00:16:12.980 nice woman, still do. She's dead wrong on this. Laura Bush and her husband, George W. Bush,

00:16:19.240 somebody that I voted for twice, somebody I respected. I don't anymore. I believe he loves

00:16:25.940 America. What I don't respect is George and Laura Bush remained dead silent while Obama tried to impose

00:16:35.980 socialism in this nation. They remain dead silent while day in and day out. He sat in the in the Oval

00:16:45.040 Office and via executive order and caveat, tried to erode the Constitution. They didn't say a word.

00:16:53.460 When Obama was punitively, and this is the big difference here, okay, Obama's administration was

00:16:59.900 punitively jailing these kids. Trump administration is doing it in certain circumstances, and it's not

00:17:08.500 jail, it's a shelter. The Obama administration was actually putting them in what looked more like

00:17:12.040 in jails, in cages. George and Laura Bush, that dead, silent, didn't say a word, not a word.

00:17:22.740 But now, because they don't like Trump, because Trump called Jeb Bush low energy,

00:17:27.940 they're out there criticizing, going back on, reversing, violating, decade upon decade upon

00:17:35.260 Bush family policy to never comment on another administration when a Bush is out of office,

00:17:42.720 whether it's Congress or the presidency. But when it's Trump, all bets are off. Got to take them

00:17:48.400 down. Got to take Trump down. Now, Democratic lawmakers in New Jersey decided to launch a stunt

00:17:55.040 the other day, and they were New York and New Jersey lawmakers, all dams, all far left.

00:18:01.160 They went to an ICE detention center yesterday for a surprise Father's Day visit, and they 1.00

00:18:06.600 included a who's who of far left morons. Representative Hakeem Jeffries of New York, 0.99

00:18:14.580 Gerald Nadler of New York, Adriano Espolat from New York, Carolyn Maloney from New York,

00:18:18.880 Frank Pallone Jr. from New Jersey, Abiyo Sirius from New Jersey, and Bill Cascrell from New Jersey.

00:18:24.700 They arrived around 9 a.m. for their publicity stunt with cameras in tow, and intelligently

00:18:32.380 and appropriately, they were denied entry, screaming and yelling and stomping their feet.

00:18:39.560 Eventually, they were allowed in more than an hour later, after they were banging on the door,

00:18:44.920 telling ICE and local police they would not move. Here's what Representative Carolyn Maloney,

00:18:49.960 who wants to take everybody's guns, said. Now, these people just, whatever.

00:18:55.320 Quote, after being made to wait over an hour, after having to deal with local PD,

00:18:58.160 after banging on the door and making it clear that we will not move in capitals,

00:19:02.000 until allowed in, ICE is finally granting us access to see individuals who have been separated

00:19:06.400 from their families. We are now speaking with detainees who were separated from their children

00:19:10.840 when they sought asylum in the U.S. from terrible violence and danger at home.

00:19:15.260 But that's really nice. They came illegally. 0.82

00:19:18.380 They didn't properly go through the asylum process. Okay?

00:19:21.760 The new excuse on the left is, well, they don't have access to the Internet.

00:19:26.960 They don't know how to seek asylum.

00:19:29.180 Oh, I think in 2018, you could find out.

00:19:33.300 Because they seem to make their way through a thousand whatever miles of Mexico,

00:19:36.860 maybe more.

00:19:37.340 And I'm guessing that along the way, you could probably stop and find out how to ask for asylum

00:19:45.480 in the United States now.

00:19:47.040 These people are choosing to cross illegally.

00:19:48.820 The Trump administration is being eviscerated, is being vilified, is being called Nazi, 0.98

00:19:54.920 white supremacist, cruel, dictatorial, just authoritarian. 0.96

00:20:00.280 All of these horrible, horrible things are having the audacity to do something they should be doing, 0.99

00:20:05.980 which is enforce federal immigration law.

00:20:09.020 That's what they're doing wrong.

00:20:09.920 They're enforcing federal immigration law.

00:20:13.180 And they're being roundly, roundly criticized by the left for doing so.

00:20:18.780 Unfortunately, from some neocons and rhinos on the right as well. 0.75

00:20:23.240 But I say this to the Trump administration.

00:20:25.500 Keep on keeping on.

00:20:27.300 This is a drastic problem, and it's going to take drastic measures.

00:20:30.720 And law enforcement, I often say, does not look pleasant.

00:20:36.320 Because you're enforcing a law that someone broke.

00:20:39.040 The optics of that, pretty much 10 times out of 10, are going to look bad.

00:20:44.120 But it needs to be done.

00:20:45.960 Like I always tell you, society falls down.

00:20:49.700 That's why I want the Trump administration to keep doing what they're doing.

00:20:52.500 Society falls down.

00:20:53.520 We put political correctness before public safety.

00:21:00.720 A lot to cover.

00:21:08.640 A lot going on over the weekend.

00:21:09.920 We've got this raging war between the DOJ and Congress with Devin Nunez and Trey Gowdy.

00:21:15.160 Threatening the issue.

00:21:15.920 Subpoena is even going as far as to impeach Rod Rosenstein.

00:21:18.780 If he doesn't comply, got this massive battle happening over illegal immigration.

00:21:23.980 And a lot of fallout over what I thought was a very tepid speech by FBI Director Christopher Wray last week.

00:21:29.040 After the IG report dropped, here to break it down with me is political analyst, commentator, and founder of American Majority, Ned Ryan.

00:21:37.400 Ned, thanks for being here.

00:21:38.800 Good to be with you, John.

00:21:40.160 And Ned, I just want to tell the audience, Ned's video is lagging a little.

00:21:42.880 His video is lagging a bit, but his audio is solid.

00:21:45.060 So we're good to go.

00:21:46.240 Ned, real quick, I want to cover, because I did it in my first segment today, this debate over illegal immigration and the lies being told by the left.

00:21:54.060 I thought that Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen did an outstanding job of explaining that if you come to the border or any port of entry and you legally request asylum, your children will not be separated.

00:22:07.500 The people whose children are being separated.

00:22:09.700 And by the way, kids in these shelters, only 10% of them are separatees.

00:22:13.420 These are people who are either committing crimes, are not the parent or a custodial guardian of the child, or authorities feel the kid is in danger in some other way, correct?

00:22:26.940 Yeah, correct.

00:22:28.980 And I think the thing that people have to be reminded of is get a little perspective.

00:22:32.700 I mean, some of this legislation that we're dealing with right now was signed into law by Bill Clinton.

00:22:38.400 The Obama administration, I think, at a certain point was doing twice as many of these separations.

00:22:45.400 And so it's amazing to me, again, kind of highlights the hypocrisy of the mainstream media and some on the left with all of a sudden they're losing their minds over practices that were implemented and actually conducted by Democrat presidents in the very recent past.

00:22:58.560 Right.

00:22:58.640 And it's one of those things, John, I think we finally are hopefully getting to a point where we've got to fix this immigration problem. 0.82

00:23:06.900 I mean, that was one of the reasons Donald Trump was elected.

00:23:08.880 It's one of the big reasons.

00:23:10.020 Build the wall, one of the top three reasons he was elected. 0.77

00:23:13.360 And so when you look at this whole issue, again, it highlights the hypocrisy.

00:23:17.320 I would actually argue, John, it's a little frustrating.

00:23:20.420 I think the White House got caught a little flat-footed on this. 0.71

00:23:23.340 Again, they should have been aware that the mainstream media was going to come after them in their usual hypocritical way.

00:23:32.300 Kind of what I would like to see in some ways is maybe go back to that Obama-era detention center where families are kept together until they're deported.

00:23:40.180 But at the same time, we've got to start making deals here and say, if we're going to do that, we'll give you that.

00:23:45.480 You're going to give us a wall, a full funding for a wall in border security.

00:23:48.940 You're going to stop chain migration, and we're going to deal and really get this immigration issue dealt with. 0.78

00:23:54.800 Because I'm making the point, I made the point on CNN on Friday.

00:23:57.920 You know, we're having all these conversations.

00:23:59.540 It's hyper-partisan.

00:24:00.460 Some people don't want to, you know, people want to give this.

00:24:02.300 They don't want to give this.

00:24:03.440 At some point, we have to understand 10 or 15 years from now when mass automation hits

00:24:09.440 and we have millions and millions more of low-skilled or unskilled labors in this country that are thrown out of work.

00:24:16.200 There's either going to be bloodshed in the streets or they're going to be thrown onto our already massive welfare systems. 0.61

00:24:22.440 And then the only way that those welfare systems actually function is people like us are going to get hit with life-crushing, draconian taxes.

00:24:29.820 Oh, it's going to be devastating.

00:24:30.660 The entire country now is going to look like California with a 60% to 64% tax rate.

00:24:36.000 No water.

00:24:37.700 Our infrastructure is going to be taxed to the extreme.

00:24:40.840 It's going to be devastating.

00:24:42.160 Devastating.

00:24:43.240 Absolutely devastating.

00:24:44.280 And I hope that we can at least get to that point where we understand and common sense actually starts to kick in,

00:24:49.880 where more and more of the American people realize, listen, we are a nation of immigrants.

00:24:54.220 We want them to come here legally as we have put out laws and set the laws.

00:24:58.740 You know, it's amazing to me, too, John, the hypocrisy of the left when they lose their minds over a whole merit-based system,

00:25:04.420 when we see that Canada and Australia and other countries have that.

00:25:07.220 That's all we want.

00:25:08.220 We want to have the ability to say as a sovereign nation we can choose who to accept or not to accept to come into this nation to be a citizen of the United States.

00:25:17.100 And all that we are asking is that you come legally and that when you come, you love this country

00:25:22.380 and that you do your best to be an actual contributing citizen to the betterment of society.

00:25:28.740 I think that's pretty easy.

00:25:31.140 It is.

00:25:31.800 It is.

00:25:32.240 It's common sense, like you say.

00:25:33.880 But the immigrant classes who came in the past, my great-great-great-grandparents on one side of the family and great-great on the other,

00:25:45.100 they looked at this thing a little differently.

00:25:48.620 My great-grandfather, actually, one of my great-grandfathers was born in Italy, but he came here young and his dad, my great-great-grandfather,

00:25:56.920 before they emigrated, bought a building in Queens.

00:25:59.920 Not an expensive building, but he wanted to at least own something in America, know he could establish a building.

00:26:06.980 He had an ice business back before we had home heating oil, right?

00:26:09.860 On a horse-drawn cart, they would bring ice around.

00:26:13.600 But at least he knew his family had a place to live, his business had a facility, and he had a way to feed his family.

00:26:22.080 Entitlements were never in the mindset.

00:26:24.280 Right.

00:26:25.200 Right.

00:26:25.800 That's the difference.

00:26:26.600 No, no, no.

00:26:27.480 And the thing that concerns me is, especially with the whole issue of chain migration,

00:26:32.160 there's an estimate that we'll have 7 to 8 million new immigrants coming through chain migration in the next 20 years that will actually vote.

00:26:39.580 And this is why Democrats are never going to give this up, and this is why we have to get to a point where we've got to solve this.

00:26:44.500 Democrats don't want to give it up because they view that as their path to political dominance for decades to come.

00:26:49.400 But they're coming and they're voting Democrat because they have a view that government should take care of them.

00:26:55.780 And I think that's the troubling issue we're seeing.

00:26:57.980 Again, as you were pointing out, with these new immigrants that are coming in, they're coming in and they're voting Democrat because they believe that there should be massive social welfare systems. 0.58

00:27:06.760 And the conversation that has to be had, John, is social welfare systems are to be used as a backstop, not a permanent residence.

00:27:14.100 That's right.

00:27:14.360 And I think that we've completely lost this perspective.

00:27:17.280 Listen, Republicans, conservatives, we understand that there are hard times in life, that there are people that hit hard times that have to have some help from society.

00:27:24.740 It's not meant to be for the next decade or two that you're residing in social welfare programs.

00:27:30.140 And so that's the other debate we have to have of how do we get to the point where we say this is a backdrop, not a permanent residence.

00:27:36.420 You can be on here for a certain amount of years.

00:27:38.160 And then after that, we're going to work on getting you towards actually being a self-sufficient contributing citizen of this country.

00:27:45.640 Then I couldn't agree more.

00:27:47.340 Let's switch gears to the last five or six minutes we have.

00:27:49.500 I want to talk about the DOJ war with Congress.

00:27:52.440 Real quick, I want to touch on Christopher Wray, what I thought not was only a tepid speech last week. 0.99

00:27:58.380 I thought it was an embarrassment, foolish.

00:28:01.680 I'm really glad, though, Ned, very, very glad that the FBI only accepts 5% of their honors interns. 0.99

00:28:07.580 Maybe they can backflip and shoot somebody in a crowd with their gun.

00:28:10.400 And he didn't address any, any of the problems in the FBI.

00:28:14.500 As a former law enforcement guy, that was one of the weakest policy statements I'd ever heard from a chief law enforcement officer.

00:28:21.240 If you had not read the Office of Inspector General's report and were listening to Christopher Wray, you would have thought, you know, some FBI agents, they misused the photocopy machine.

00:28:31.700 They made some damage for their faces and their butt cheeks. 1.00

00:28:34.500 Oh, we can do better than this.

00:28:35.960 You know, somebody used somebody else's parking space in the garage.

00:28:38.760 That's right.

00:28:39.080 Unacceptable behavior.

00:28:40.900 No.

00:28:41.300 What happened, and this is the part that was not only nauseating but in some ways chilling about Christopher Wray's press conference, he didn't address the fact that we had FBI agents, senior FBI agents, stating explicitly, in so many words, we'll stop it, meaning we will use our law enforcement system to stop a potential presidential candidate from becoming president of the United States.

00:29:05.880 You know what we call that?

00:29:06.820 We call that weaponizing the police state, the law enforcement state against political opponents.

00:29:11.840 That is completely and wildly unacceptable.

00:29:13.880 And I think the thing that's insulting, John, about all of this, a gentleman by the name of Peter Strzok not only has his security clearance still, he is still employed by the FBI.

00:29:22.860 With a badge and a gun and powers of arrest.

00:29:25.880 By the way, by the way, in HR and Ed, which we all know, where he has access to the personnel file of files of others that he can use to strong arm them.

00:29:35.180 I mean, this is one of the most egregious situations.

00:29:39.040 You know, I tweeted something.

00:29:39.820 I think you retweeted it, and it really is true.

00:29:42.660 An FBI agent that were to use their official government vehicle to go to Walgreens to get their sick child cough syrup, if their other car is in the shop, summarily, instantly, without any administrative proceeding, loses 30 to 60 days.

00:29:55.140 Peter Strzok still gets paid.

00:29:56.960 He's got a job.

00:29:57.540 He's never lost one day on the job for weaponizing the FBI.

00:30:02.500 We've got about two, three minutes left.

00:30:03.660 What do you think?

00:30:04.600 Are Nishas and Gowdy serious?

00:30:06.240 Do you think they would actually start issuing subpoenas and draft articles of impeachment for Rod Rosenstein if the DOJ and FBI do not comply with Congress and congressional demands?

00:30:16.820 I have a hard time believing Gowdy, seeing he's all over the place.

00:30:19.780 Of course, he said some really good things yesterday on Fox News Sunday that I think he was absolutely outraged by stuff that he saw in the Office of Inspector General.

00:30:28.300 But he won't do anything.

00:30:28.980 He won't do anything.

00:30:29.800 He doesn't do anything.

00:30:30.780 At the end of the day, he says, oh, but Mueller's a great guy.

00:30:33.600 Let's let him do what he's got to do.

00:30:35.300 I think Devin Nunes, if he is empowered and given the ability to do that, I think he will follow through.

00:30:41.120 The question is, will Republican leadership allow him to do that?

00:30:44.460 I think I would certainly hope so.

00:30:46.580 And you saw this tweet yesterday, John.

00:30:48.300 I think after seeing that Office of Inspector General's report, which in its very nature basically demonstrated and showed massively preferential treatment, which by any other definition is biased, for Hillary Clinton and her cronies to get away with not going to jail.

00:31:02.600 Because you and I would be in jail right now if we had done that.

00:31:05.120 Without a doubt.

00:31:06.060 Without a doubt.

00:31:06.880 And I think what we need to have now, and I've been fighting this, I think we either need to have a second special counsel.

00:31:12.480 I want that, Ned, at this point.

00:31:13.780 Or a select committee of the House and the Senate to have open proceedings in which we bring and we have full transparency and accountability.

00:31:21.700 And the other thing I would offer is this, John.

00:31:24.100 As the head of the executive branch, Donald Trump has the ability to have massive transparency by doing radical, declassifying a lot of things that took place for eight years.

00:31:34.880 One of those three things or all of those three things need to happen, because if we cannot have faith and trust in the DOJ and the FBI, the supposed guardians of the rule of law and even-handed justice, it calls into question a lot of things in society.

00:31:47.020 Our whole system falls down, and Americans, everyday Americans, start to say, well, if the protected class doesn't have to follow the law, why do I?

00:31:55.200 Why do we?

00:31:55.700 And that's what leads to chaos.

00:31:57.680 Ned, it's always an absolute pleasure.

00:32:00.020 Check him out on Twitter.

00:32:01.280 Always, always love his Twitter feed.

00:32:02.880 It's at Ned Ryan, correct?

00:32:04.280 I don't have it up in front of me.

00:32:05.040 That's right.

00:32:05.540 N-E-D-R-Y-U-N. 1.00

00:32:07.240 N-E-D-R-Y-U-N. 1.00

00:32:08.360 Ned, my friend, it's always a pleasure.

00:32:09.800 Hopefully next time we'll get the video issues sorted out.

00:32:12.300 I think it might have been on my end.

00:32:13.600 Sorry about that.

00:32:14.160 But the audio was great, so the audience stopped the full effect, my friend.

00:32:17.360 Thanks.

00:32:18.040 Sounds good.

00:32:18.620 Thanks, John.

00:32:19.100 Yes.

00:32:30.240 Now, the FBI typically defines a mass shooting as three or more people shot.

00:32:34.160 Well, there was a pretty significant mass shooting that you probably haven't heard about or heard very little about in Trenton, New Jersey, over the weekend.

00:32:41.900 No protests by the Parkland kids.

00:32:44.960 No protests by Moms Demand Action or Everytown for Gun Safety.

00:32:49.600 22 people injured.

00:32:51.540 One of the suspects shot and killed by police.

00:32:54.420 Of the 22 injured, 17 of those shot.

00:32:59.640 The others presumably trampled and people were running away and things of that nature.

00:33:04.640 But you didn't hear really about this.

00:33:06.080 The Mercer County, New Jersey, prosecutor, their DA, Angelo Onofre, said it's a massive crime scene.

00:33:16.240 This is truly a tragedy for Trenton, Trenton Mayor Eric Jackson said.

00:33:20.140 A 13-year-old boy, a 13-year-old boy, a little boy, in extremely critical condition.

00:33:28.000 Four others in critical condition.

00:33:30.680 Reports that that 13-year-old boy was shot in the head.

00:33:35.480 Why didn't you hear about this mass shooting?

00:33:38.000 Well, because it was two gangbangers shooting it out, hitting people in the crowd, complete disregard for life, with illegal guns in, essentially, gun-free New Jersey.

00:33:51.280 New Jersey, some of the most draconian gun control laws in the United States.

00:33:57.360 Two suspects.

00:33:58.600 This is from a Fox News report, but the details came out of local New Jersey media.

00:34:03.440 Two suspects opened fire shortly between 2.45 a.m.

00:34:06.380 Now, this was happening at something called the All Night Art Show in the Roebling Market section of Trenton, New Jersey.

00:34:11.880 Trenton's a pretty rough city.

00:34:13.280 And what this is, it's a 24-hour cultural and art event.

00:34:16.880 Should be a really nice event.

00:34:18.520 They're doing it in this old converted building.

00:34:20.860 And, you know, we see this quite a bit in bad areas in New York, like Red Hook, where they've converted these old buildings into these warehouses where you have all these hipster businesses.

00:34:28.660 It's pretty cool, actually.

00:34:30.360 Blacksmiths and glassblowers and creative businesses.

00:34:32.720 And it is pretty cool stuff, I'll admit it, you know.

00:34:35.320 And this should have been a nice festival.

00:34:37.740 But gangsters are going to gangster.

00:34:40.620 You know, the gangbangers are going to act like savages.

00:34:43.220 So they come in when people are there just trying to look at art and overnight, probably having a few drinks, start shooting the place up because they can't function in society like normal human beings.

00:34:53.920 But this story isn't top of the headlines.

00:34:57.300 There aren't a massive protest in the streets of Trenton.

00:34:59.580 And why, again, gangsters, gangbangers, they were non-white, that does play in, with illegal guns. 0.86

00:35:06.160 These were not white men in states where it was easy to obtain a firearm.

00:35:11.580 This completely debunks the narrative.

00:35:13.920 So you can't have a mass shooting on the books or 17 are shot.

00:35:18.040 You can't have that in gun-free New Jersey, perpetrated by gangbangers with illegal guns.

00:35:25.360 It completely kills the narrative that only places were, and by the way, it wasn't an AR-15 or an AR-15 variant used in this shooting.

00:35:33.540 So it's a further nail in the coffin of it getting national media attention.

00:35:38.000 But one of the suspects is dead, and the main suspect is dead.

00:35:45.920 Another is in custody.

00:35:48.040 Everybody ran to the door, and the people fighting and shooting got mixed with the crowd that was running, and they went out the door shooting.

00:35:54.820 Unreal.

00:35:56.440 All of a sudden, my brother goes to me.

00:35:58.060 You hear that gunfire?

00:35:59.300 I go, it sounds like fireworks.

00:36:00.660 He said, no, that's gunfire.

00:36:02.340 The next thing you know, we turn around, and everybody's running down the street.

00:36:06.220 All hell broke loose.

00:36:08.540 That's from a couple of witnesses.

00:36:10.520 One guy, Franco Roberts, said he saw two punches and heard several gunshots.

00:36:14.820 The witnesses all told pretty much the same story. 0.99

00:36:18.440 Now, New Jersey's new governor, Phil Murphy, one of the most far-left morons to ever hold public office, 0.99

00:36:26.420 a guy who should be solidly, solidly ashamed of himself, sees guns as the problem. 0.99

00:36:35.800 Guns.

00:36:36.640 Gun-free New Jersey. 0.67

00:36:38.000 Two gangbangers with illegal guns.

00:36:40.020 New Jersey having the most draconian gun laws in the U.S. right now.

00:36:43.960 Maybe Maryland's are a little bit worse.

00:36:47.840 Unreal.

00:36:48.240 But here's the bigger problem for New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy.

00:36:52.340 Let me read it to you from another Fox News story.

00:36:58.520 A suspect, a suspect, a suspect, a suspect's gang membership and early release from prison after Murphy took office may have been bigger factors.

00:37:11.480 May have been bigger factors.

00:37:12.900 Far, far-left governor, Phil Murphy, when he took office, began releasing hardcore bad guys from jail.

00:37:23.900 And the dead suspect, the one who was killed by police, a guy named the Haji Wells, 33, excuse me, 33 years old.

00:37:30.200 Well, he was one of them.

00:37:33.880 He was one of the bad guys that Phil Murphy's policies released from prison early.

00:37:40.940 The second suspect, he's identified, his name is Amir Armstrong.

00:37:45.960 He's hospital and in stable condition, facing weapons charge.

00:37:49.000 He should be facing charges of shooting these people.

00:37:51.620 A third suspect is in critical condition.

00:37:53.540 Murphy was a Goldman Sachs banker, really liberal guy.

00:37:59.680 He was also Barack Obama's ambassador to Germany.

00:38:01.960 He's a very wealthy, very, very wealthy, very liberal guy.

00:38:05.740 And, of course, just began calling for gun control.

00:38:09.780 Didn't address that they were illegal guns.

00:38:11.940 Didn't address the rampant gang and crime problems in Trenton, New Jersey.

00:38:15.900 The nation's, New Jersey's capital, by the way.

00:38:18.320 Most importantly, didn't address the early release program in New Jersey prisons for violent offenders.

00:38:25.980 No, he's blaming guns that are all but impossible, especially handguns, all but impossible to get in the state of New Jersey.

00:38:34.040 His quote, Murphy's quote, quote, it is yet another reminder of the senseless gun violence, even having signed six stringent gun laws last week.

00:38:44.340 He said that in a news conference, following a service at a local church, he went on to say, these are not, well, he wrote on Twitter.

00:38:55.360 These are not inappropriate times to talk about gun policy.

00:38:58.400 These are the most important times to talk about gun policy.

00:39:02.180 Well, it wasn't gun policy, though.

00:39:03.920 Let's look at why the bad guy, Tahajie Wells, was on the street able to shoot 17 people.

00:39:09.020 Well, Wells had been released from prison in February, despite receiving an 18-year date prison sentence in 2004 for aggravated manslaughter in the shooting death of a 22-year-old man.

00:39:22.080 So this guy had already killed somebody.

00:39:25.520 Already killed somebody.

00:39:26.840 And the liberals in New Jersey let him out of prison.

00:39:30.180 And he went back out there.

00:39:31.660 And now there's a 13-year-old boy in the hospital in critical condition.

00:39:34.720 What is being reported to be a bullet in his head?

00:39:36.700 Huh.

00:39:40.200 But wait, there's more.

00:39:42.280 In 2010, while Wells was in prison, he was sentenced to six additional years for racketeering charges.

00:39:51.140 He was running a gang from inside the prison.

00:39:54.340 And he should have been in jail for another, should have been into the 2020s.

00:39:58.280 But he was back on the street.

00:40:02.640 And that was all because of Phil Murphy, who has, he ran for office on shortening prison sentences, on releasing bad guys from prisons.

00:40:15.360 Unreal.

00:40:16.700 Unreal.

00:40:18.180 The liberal governor of New Jersey's policies enabled a murderer.

00:40:23.140 This guy was not a nonviolent drug offender.

00:40:26.160 He killed a 22-year-old.

00:40:29.200 Phil Murphy, the governor of New Jersey, enacted policies that put this guy back on the street where he shot 17 people.

00:40:37.500 Luckily, Wells was killed by police.

00:40:40.080 So he won't be doing anything again.

00:40:42.020 And the governor of New Jersey, the far-left governor of New Jersey, his response is to go after guns.

00:40:47.420 I say it all the time.

00:40:49.340 The liberal agenda is deadly.

00:40:51.720 Really, they don't care about public safety.

00:40:55.140 They could not care less.

00:40:57.840 They coddle criminals at the expense of the safety of you and your family.

00:41:02.300 The privacy advocates are a little concerned over police in Hagerstown, Maryland, using the state's driver's license database combined with facial recognition technology to solve a crime.

00:41:25.800 This is a story from the Wall Street Journal, and I actually think this is very smart policing.

00:41:30.040 Look, driving is a privilege, okay?

00:41:32.700 When you obtain your driver's license, you know that you're putting your name, your date of birth, many other things about you, your address, and your photo into a state database.

00:41:40.580 So in this case, what happened was police had an Instagram photo of a robbery suspect.

00:41:47.940 They fed that Instagram photo into the facial recognition software they had tied to the driver's license database.

00:41:54.840 The Instagram photo was reconciled against driver's license photos.

00:41:58.240 A facial recognition comparison was made, and the suspect was found.

00:42:03.740 Now, 31 states are now allowing this from the Wall Street Journal, police to allow driver's license photos in facial recognition searches.

00:42:11.580 I have no problem with this.

00:42:13.620 Civil liberties advocates say that giving police unfettered access to photos of people who have committed no crimes infringes on those civilians' privacy.

00:42:20.140 Kind of an argument that falls on deaf ears, though, because police have all of our registration information and driver's license information already in their computers.

00:42:29.400 It's logical they have the photos.

00:42:30.860 Look, I'm a privacy advocate.

00:42:32.140 I've defended privacy many, many times.

00:42:34.940 But I also say, you know what you opt in for.

00:42:37.980 If you choose to drive a vehicle, if you choose to get a state-issued non-driver ID, you know you're giving the state your information.

00:42:44.080 Look, I choose to be part of the Department of Homeland Security and the TSA's Global Entry Program.

00:42:49.260 So if I travel abroad and I come back into the U.S., I can scan my fingerprints.

00:42:53.800 I don't have to talk to a customs person, any of that, right?

00:42:56.260 I also choose to be part of TSA PreCheck, where I gave the same biometric information and a lot of personal info.

00:43:03.460 The government has my retinas, my fingerprints.

00:43:08.380 I'm also part of the Clear Travel Program, which is a private vendor for the U.S. government.

00:43:12.440 They have it as well.

00:43:13.220 So I know when I submit that information that one day that imagery, those biometrics, can be used if I commit a crime.

00:43:21.580 I know going in that's the case.

00:43:24.320 You can't really cry foul.

00:43:27.980 And law enforcement officials are saying, and I think rightfully so, it's a valuable tool.

00:43:33.680 A sheriff, Sheriff Bob Gaultierre of Pinellas County, Florida, down here in Florida, is, quote,

00:43:38.940 this is no different than if I laid out all those photos in front of me and said, no, that doesn't look like him.

00:43:43.560 That doesn't look like him.

00:43:44.800 Here we go.

00:43:45.300 That's him.

00:43:45.960 The only thing I am doing in a different way, a more automated way, a more efficient way.

00:43:50.060 He's doing it.

00:43:51.140 Now, what Sheriff Gaultierre, who, by the way, has an impeccable reputation,

00:43:54.580 he's actually the chair of the commission looking into Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel,

00:44:00.980 that we've been very vocal here at The Rebel about removing from office.

00:44:03.860 Gaultierre has an impeccable reputation as a sheriff.

00:44:06.160 He's right.

00:44:07.540 Police do lineups.

00:44:09.120 Police do what's called photo arrays, where you put photos of different people.

00:44:13.660 And somebody looks at the photo array, typically six photos of people who look similar to the suspect,

00:44:18.300 with the suspect in there, and they say, oh, it's nobody.

00:44:21.220 Or, yep, that's him.

00:44:22.600 Not those five.

00:44:23.520 That's him.

00:44:23.960 This is simply an automated, more digital way of doing that.

00:44:27.920 And I really don't have any problem with it.

00:44:30.260 I don't have any problem with it because they're only using photos that have been voluntarily submitted to government,

00:44:40.720 i.e., your driver's license photo.

00:44:42.800 You waited online.

00:44:44.220 You paid a fee to give government that information.

00:44:47.180 Well, you can't cry foul when government shares it with other government agencies.

00:44:50.380 Now, in New York City, the police are saying they want to get access to driver's license photos, which are currently limited to mugshots.

00:44:57.240 But if faced opposition from privacy advocates, New York State is not playing ball with the city.

00:45:02.340 Maryland police are using what they call Maryland's image repository system to compare images with more than 7 million driver's license photos and more than 3 million mugshots.

00:45:10.440 Look, the privacy is – your privacy is not going to be infringed upon anymore.

00:45:18.100 In other words, your driver's license information is not going to be any less secure if shared with law enforcement.

00:45:24.060 There's a law here in the United States that's been acted for many, many years called the DPPA, the Driver Privacy Protection Act.

00:45:29.580 And it puts very, very strict criteria on what even law enforcement can use your driver's license information for.

00:45:38.760 So this is one case where the safeguards actually predate the Internet.

00:45:44.480 They predate the mass digitization of records.

00:45:48.300 And I really don't have any problem with this.

00:45:51.020 I said – you know, I think this is sound law enforcement.

00:45:54.120 Look, if this were law enforcement, a good example is that we found out states like Delaware, Maryland, states with strong gun control laws, were using – were accessing databases of those who had concealed weapons licenses and reconciling those against license plates.

00:46:13.660 And then pulling over vehicles from those states, especially as they were driving through these states.

00:46:19.260 You know, a lot of people drive from the northeast down to Florida on vacation.

00:46:23.540 And they were saying, okay, there's a plate from – or back and forth from Florida.

00:46:27.400 See relatives.

00:46:28.120 Well, there's a Florida plate.

00:46:29.380 A lot of concealed weapons licenses in Florida.

00:46:31.300 Oops, look at that.

00:46:32.860 That person does have a concealed weapons license.

00:46:34.800 We can access that because in Florida, the list of who – those who have concealed weapons licenses,

00:46:39.540 unless you were a former law enforcement or had some other reason, public safety to not be on that list, that's public record.

00:46:45.440 It can be requested.

00:46:46.200 So these states requested it.

00:46:47.880 And then they would build their own internal databases that would say, okay, John Smith from Miami, Florida, 123 Main Street.

00:46:53.980 Well, look at that.

00:46:54.760 He's got a concealed weapons license.

00:46:56.300 Whoop, whoop.

00:46:57.160 Pull him over.

00:46:58.000 You have a gun on you while you're carrying it on your person or is it stowed in the trunk?

00:47:01.900 Oops, that's illegal in this state.

00:47:03.400 Clink, clink.

00:47:04.640 I've got a massive, massive problem with that.

00:47:07.920 That is a blatant Fourth Amendment violation because now you're using data to essentially entrap a person who's not doing anything illegal.

00:47:16.580 And Peaceable Journey, pretty much that standard, pretty much allows that person to have the firearm anyway.

00:47:23.280 Sure, it should be in the trunk, but they're not a criminal.

00:47:25.620 This situation is a little bit different.

00:47:27.640 Somebody who committed a crime is suspected in a crime.

00:47:31.780 Somebody has identified an image of the person.

00:47:34.560 There's an Instagram photo of the person.

00:47:36.240 We're trying to find out where the person lives, where we have an ID on the person or some form, maybe a first name.

00:47:42.900 You reconcile that image of a suspect with a lot of supporting evidence against a driver's license photo that they voluntarily submitted.

00:47:50.580 You find out they live at 321 Elm Street.

00:47:53.580 That's just good law enforcement.

00:47:55.760 Now it's not a witch hunt.

00:47:56.940 Now it's not, you know, a fishing expedition.

00:47:59.460 You have a suspect in a specific crime.

00:48:01.900 You have complaining victims, witnesses, evidence, and you're simply using another tool, another investigative tool to find the person to go arrest them or interview them.

00:48:11.340 I have no problem at all.

00:48:12.800 So while I'm a strong privacy advocate, especially in the age of big data, I think using driver's license photos against photos of suspected criminals to find those criminals, I don't have a privacy concern with it.

00:48:25.440 I think it's really sound, really effective law enforcement.

00:48:28.360 I think it's really sound, really effective law enforcement.

Rebel News Podcast - June 19, 2018

Off The Cuff Declassified： Illegal alien minors, Ned Ryun, shooting in New Jersey

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