Rebel News Podcast - Off The Cuff Declassified： Immigration, Peter Fonda, Crime, and Hollywood

00:00:00.000 Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, Kurt Schlichter joins me to wrap up the week.

00:00:04.000 We have a lot to cover.

00:00:05.680 Criminologist Dr. Adam Dobrin and I discuss how California,

00:00:09.960 going weak on criminals in 2014, is contributing to a rise in crime today.

00:00:16.360 And fellow rebel, the Hollywood conservative Amanda Head is with me

00:00:19.540 to discuss the backlash, I mean the disdain,

00:00:23.400 Hollywood and professional sports has for conservatives.

00:00:30.000 So much went on this week.

00:00:34.680 Actually, yesterday, things were happening about every five minutes.

00:00:38.120 They're here to help me unpack this crazy week.

00:00:41.500 Fellow rebel, trial lawyer extraordinaire, U.S. Army colonel retired,

00:00:46.120 or Colonel U.S. Army retired, Kurt Schlichter.

00:00:48.500 Kurt, I don't know if you watched the rally, the Trump rally in Duluth a couple of nights ago.

00:00:53.040 Duluth, Minnesota.

00:00:54.200 Trump was on fire.

00:00:55.980 This is a blue-collar town.

00:00:57.900 It looked like a Rolling Stones concert.

00:01:02.200 People were cheering, jumping out of their seats, bouncing up and down, standing ovation.

00:01:06.400 All that was missing when the lights were down and people were waving their lighters around.

00:01:10.360 I mean, how does this guy lose?

00:01:12.800 Play free bird.

00:01:14.360 Play free bird.

00:01:15.540 How does he lose in 2020?

00:01:17.320 I don't see it happening.

00:01:19.000 That's Wisconsin.

00:01:20.520 Minnesota, rather.

00:01:21.520 There's this giant appetite out there, John, for somebody who wants to stand up for normal Americans.

00:01:27.740 Which leads me into my book, Militant Normals, which you should go, everybody should go buy,

00:01:31.920 and you still owe me a blurb on.

00:01:33.820 Anyway.

00:01:34.160 You've got a blurb whenever you want.

00:01:35.040 Wait, is the book out already?

00:01:36.460 No.

00:01:37.160 It's not out to October.

00:01:38.460 Exactly.

00:01:39.320 Rumor has it, rumor has it, that certain select people are helping you vet the cover for your book.

00:01:45.180 But, yeah, we'll talk offline.

00:01:52.020 Anyway, look, there's this huge appetite for someone who stands up for us. 0.99

00:01:56.540 And when you get idiots like Peter Fonda or Wanda Sykes or all the rest of them, you know, 0.99

00:02:01.960 coming on there and attacking, you know, the guy who's the symbol, he's become the avatar of normal Americans, 1.00

00:02:09.780 which is bizarre.

00:02:11.020 Even he pointed out, even Trump pointed out last night, you know, I'm this billionaire, man.

00:02:14.360 And, you know, you guys are all responding to me.

00:02:17.300 But facts are facts.

00:02:18.260 So when they're attacking Trump, normal people are seeing it and normal people are tired of it.

00:02:23.520 You know what's interesting?

00:02:24.220 Everybody's telling us, everybody's telling us, well, the conversation in living rooms and at kitchen tables

00:02:29.600 and in diners and water coolers is immigration, immigration, immigration.

00:02:33.060 What conversation?

00:02:34.760 But you talk to normal Americans and it's the economy, right?

00:02:37.940 So the way I might take away from the other night in Duluth over in Minnesota was Trump asked America, trust me on the economy.

00:02:44.900 They trusted him.

00:02:45.500 And you know what?

00:02:46.100 The bet paid off, right?

00:02:47.520 He delivered.

00:02:48.240 You weren't a Trump guy.

00:02:49.660 You're a convert.

00:02:50.440 I was not.

00:02:50.900 You're a convert.

00:02:51.480 I was a convert.

00:02:52.720 Yeah.

00:02:53.140 The bet paid off.

00:02:54.640 So he's telling them again.

00:02:56.060 Trust me again.

00:02:57.000 And they're saying, what do we got to lose?

00:02:59.700 You know, he's the first guy who's paid off.

00:03:01.520 He's the first bet who's paid off.

00:03:02.660 He's the guy who actually comes through.

00:03:06.400 I mean, you look at the normal Republicans and they're just this – they're just not talking to or about or taking the side of normal folks.

00:03:16.100 Right.

00:03:16.520 You know, people out there are hurting.

00:03:18.520 They're under fire from the culture.

00:03:20.600 And what does, you know, Jeb, exclamation point, have to say?

00:03:24.740 Well, you're being up and he – oh my – clutch, clutch, clutch.

00:03:28.400 He doesn't provide an answer.

00:03:30.440 He's just another voice going, tsk, tsk, tsk. 0.99

00:03:33.680 You're terrible.

00:03:35.440 We know we're not terrible. 0.94

00:03:36.700 Go to Jeb for a second, right?

00:03:38.340 Because his pettiness, his pettiness is now costing his son.

00:03:42.940 So his son, George P. Bush, is running for Texas Land Commissioner.

00:03:48.280 Yeah.

00:03:48.540 Pretty significant statewide office in Texas.

00:03:51.220 That's a big job there.

00:03:52.520 Big job.

00:03:53.140 Very powerful.

00:03:53.800 Very similar to the Ag Commissioner here in Florida.

00:03:56.420 People don't think much of the Agriculture Commissioner.

00:03:58.000 Well, a state like Florida, it's a cabinet-level appointee, lateral to the attorney general.

00:04:03.000 No, I'm sorry.

00:04:03.840 It's elected, not an appointee.

00:04:05.320 My mistake.

00:04:06.080 It's an elected cabinet position, lateral to the attorney general.

00:04:09.440 Well, Don Jr., despite the dads not getting along, Donald Trump Jr. likes George P. Bush.

00:04:14.740 Apparently he's a very likable guy.

00:04:16.440 He was going to go and he was going to campaign for him.

00:04:18.600 But he's pulled out because Jeb Bush won't stop attacking Donald Trump.

00:04:23.860 So this guy is so unhinged that he's now putting his own personal pettiness in front of his son's political career.

00:04:30.760 How petty are these guys? 0.78

00:04:32.260 Right. 0.94

00:04:32.520 I mean, they're just, they are just the worst.

00:04:35.760 And they get more liberal every day.

00:04:38.580 So now suddenly the true conservative position is catch and release.

00:04:42.140 When did that happen?

00:04:43.140 When did it happen that you don't separate criminals from their children?

00:04:47.120 I was unaware that this was a problem until last week.

00:04:51.060 It's a thing now.

00:04:52.200 It's a thing.

00:04:53.600 But Pelosi is really doing what I think is an incredible job.

00:04:58.060 I hope Nancy Pelosi lives to be 162 years old and stays in office as long. 0.99

00:05:02.560 Yeah, at least five more years.

00:05:04.040 Yeah, because she's showing us exactly what the Democratic Party is about. 0.93

00:05:12.880 It was never about keeping families together.

00:05:15.280 This is about open borders.

00:05:18.160 Open borders, zero sovereignty for the United States of America.

00:05:21.660 Exactly.

00:05:22.760 Yeah.

00:05:23.160 Look, I'm out there with normal people occasionally, even though I'm a blue state trial lawyer.

00:05:28.160 Hey, oh.

00:05:29.220 And no one is talking about this.

00:05:33.080 I mean, I was out, you know, whether it's at the gym, which, yes, I do go to, or it is, you know, a suburban party like I was at, you know, a kid's graduation party yesterday.

00:05:44.340 And I'm with a bunch of suburban moms and dads.

00:05:47.440 No one was talking about immigration.

00:05:49.080 I don't mean a few people.

00:05:51.460 I don't mean a few hints about it.

00:05:53.380 I mean zero.

00:05:54.480 No one.

00:05:55.060 Nothing.

00:05:55.300 This is a Washington, D.C. firestorm and all the cowardly Republicans who have, you know, infested Washington and who think Washington has its fingers on the pulse of America, when in reality Washington has its fingers on the pulse of Washington.

00:06:11.500 And they're all freaking out.

00:06:14.400 And out here, we're like, you know, people are, to the extent they're thinking about it all, and they're not really talking about it, but they're like, OK, well, yeah, if I were arrested for a crime, I'd be separated from my kids, too.

00:06:26.740 I don't understand.

00:06:27.560 I assume my kids would be upset, too.

00:06:29.640 Why do foreigners get special rights? 1.00

00:06:31.760 I don't.

00:06:32.440 I don't understand.

00:06:33.420 You know, Kurt, last week I had a meeting in Miami, a dinner meeting with some old friends of mine, and we were in an area of Miami, Brickell.

00:06:40.200 I used to live there.

00:06:40.960 It's downtown Miami, the banking district.

00:06:43.440 Nice area.

00:06:44.500 I mean, very expensive.

00:06:46.260 Still large South American population, large Cuban population in Miami.

00:06:49.920 And I was in a restaurant I used to go to all the time.

00:06:52.800 We had a table at the bar area.

00:06:54.260 And there was a large table of Cuban-American guys, all born in Miami, but they had the Miami accent.

00:06:59.360 And a couple of people at the bar ran into my old neighbor, a Cuban guy, and there was one guy at the bar.

00:07:06.100 Trump comes on, an older guy, and he, you know, gives Trump a smirk, and he goes, oh, you know, F this guy, whatever.

00:07:12.500 And every Cuban in the place lost their minds on this guy.

00:07:17.880 They're like, you don't talk about the president like that.

00:07:20.780 We came here legally.

00:07:22.020 He's doing it right.

00:07:23.460 We look at our portfolios.

00:07:24.900 We're doing it.

00:07:25.360 I mean, his support among the Hispanic community in South Florida, if I'm using that anecdotal incident as a gauge, is skyrocketing.

00:07:34.720 Oh, I immigrate.

00:07:36.020 Your wife, you know your wife is Cuban. 1.00

00:07:37.620 Well, look, the in-laws were here a couple weeks ago, and they were not big Trump guys because they're very religious and they're very decent people.

00:07:45.900 And, you know, let's face it.

00:07:47.340 Sometimes Trump shocks the squares.

00:07:50.120 Yep.

00:07:50.260 But at the end of the day, you know, Trump's not perfect, but he's on our side.

00:07:55.200 He doesn't hate us.

00:07:56.540 You look at these people, you know, you ICE guys are the new Gestapo.

00:08:00.660 I know.

00:08:00.920 Exactly.

00:08:01.460 Well, you know, when a guy like you or me looks at an ICE guy, I think that could be me.

00:08:06.660 I wore a uniform.

00:08:07.740 I carried a gun.

00:08:08.480 That's right.

00:08:08.960 That's right.

00:08:09.620 I did that.

00:08:10.260 You did, too.

00:08:10.880 And I think a lot of folks identify with us.

00:08:14.040 And when you start saying a guy who's just enforcing the law that our legislature passed, you know, we do have a Democratic Republic.

00:08:23.740 And then you're calling him a Nazi for that?

00:08:26.340 You know, I don't think it resonates.

00:08:28.380 I mean, it may do real well on college campuses or CNN studios.

00:08:31.720 But among normal people, they're like, wait a minute.

00:08:34.440 I don't get it.

00:08:35.580 You know, you talk about, you know, this Corey Lewandowski thing.

00:08:38.140 This is how bad it is.

00:08:39.320 It got me defending Corey freaking Lewandowski.

00:08:42.500 But, you know, when he went, wah, wah.

00:08:44.920 Yeah.

00:08:46.040 You know, the Down syndrome kid being brought in and he's been separated.

00:08:49.940 Wah, wah. 0.95

00:08:50.620 You know, just kind of contemptuous.

00:08:52.360 And all I could think of was, well, you know, I'm no fan of Corey.

00:08:56.780 I got my own beefs with that guy.

00:08:58.360 But my big only question is, what kind of person brings a kid with Down syndrome across a border through a desert?

00:09:05.060 Through a desert with rattlesnakes and coyotes.

00:09:07.720 Real coyotes and smuggling coyotes. 0.98

00:09:10.000 What the hell are you thinking?

00:09:11.700 I just, yeah, I'm not blaming the cops for doing their job. 0.71

00:09:17.020 No.

00:09:17.420 And, you know, what am I supposed to do?

00:09:19.200 Let him go because he's a kid?

00:09:21.560 Then doesn't that kind of reward it?

00:09:22.960 You know, if you send your kid to his room for, I don't know, throwing a ball through the window, are you separating children from their families?

00:09:32.700 Are you caging them?

00:09:34.480 Oh, you know, I mean, I don't understand. 0.99

00:09:36.620 It's so, Kurt, it's so ridiculous. 0.90

00:09:37.980 I talked about it. 0.96

00:09:38.780 You know how many kids, I mean, I don't say this in a cavalier way.

00:09:41.080 I don't say it.

00:09:41.760 I don't say this lightly.

00:09:43.140 You know how many times I was forced when I was with NYPD to remove kids from their parents and bring them to DCFS?

00:09:49.380 I mean, I can't tell you, every domestic you walk into, that is a reality.

00:09:55.100 If both parents are going to jail, you don't know what you're walking in.

00:09:58.120 You don't know what you're walking through the door to see.

00:10:00.300 You've got to bring those kids.

00:10:01.060 It's heartbreaking.

00:10:01.960 Nobody wants to do it, but it's the job.

00:10:03.040 Nobody wants to do that, but what are you supposed to do?

00:10:06.800 Well, you know, you beat the hell out of your wife, but, you know, little Susie seems sad.

00:10:11.540 You can stay here.

00:10:12.460 God knows what you'll do to little Susie. 0.91

00:10:14.100 Or you've got to take both parents.

00:10:16.820 You've got to take both parents to jail.

00:10:18.520 Hey, little Susie, here's a bottle of water and a Happy Meal. 1.00

00:10:21.060 You'll be okay.

00:10:21.620 They'll be back in a couple days.

00:10:22.260 Yeah, it'll be cool.

00:10:23.180 I'll send somebody around.

00:10:24.560 Yeah, I'll send somebody around.

00:10:25.520 Just watch TV.

00:10:25.800 Got somebody you can call?

00:10:27.280 Exactly.

00:10:28.400 Exactly.

00:10:29.300 You know, here you go, kid.

00:10:30.240 Here's a bottle of water and a Camelback.

00:10:32.680 Nicaragua's that way, about 3,000 miles.

00:10:35.660 See you later. 0.96

00:10:36.880 You know, and it's ridiculous. 0.82

00:10:38.860 I think Trump, and when I first heard he signed the executive order, I wasn't thrilled. 0.85

00:10:43.280 I was like, you know, I don't know if backing down is the right thing.

00:10:46.660 But he really didn't back down.

00:10:47.600 I said, okay, we'll just keep them together.

00:10:48.860 But we're not catching or releasing.

00:10:50.620 We're just not doing that.

00:10:51.980 Right.

00:10:52.580 Take me on.

00:10:53.460 And then, of course, they kept freaking out.

00:10:56.880 And, you know, normal people were like, okay, well, they're going to keep them together now.

00:11:01.060 Okay.

00:11:01.560 Well, why is this still a problem?

00:11:02.760 I mean, you know, is the argument that they should be released because they brought their kid with you?

00:11:07.980 I want to go there in a second, Kurt, but talk to me about that.

00:11:10.300 Put on attorney, Kurt, like there's hat right now.

00:11:12.540 Does this EO hold up in federal court or does it get tossed out because it doesn't comport with the 93 Supreme Court decision, the 97 law?

00:11:20.540 Well, I think it will – I think the Ninth Circuit will likely do whatever it perceives as most damaging to Trump.

00:11:29.220 The problem is I don't think there's an answer that damages Trump.

00:11:33.720 No, right.

00:11:34.080 Because if they say you have to catch and release, well, then Trump goes to Congress and says, the court is telling me I have to catch and release.

00:11:41.380 Change the law.

00:11:42.420 That's right.

00:11:43.400 That's right.

00:11:43.760 And then suddenly the Republicans have to stop talking about amnesty and start talking about enforcement, which will make them all cry.

00:11:51.560 Well, the other problem here in all this is Mitch McConnell.

00:11:54.640 It appears he wants to do nothing.

00:11:56.280 This clotor is nonsense.

00:11:57.980 Trump is right.

00:11:59.740 Clotor is nonsense.

00:12:00.660 No provision for it in the U.S. Constitution. 0.98

00:12:02.620 It's ludicrous. 0.91

00:12:04.340 And we both know this.

00:12:06.120 If the Dems got back to Senate, clotor would disappear.

00:12:10.020 They'd be gone.

00:12:10.880 Gone.

00:12:11.300 Gone the first day.

00:12:12.380 No, I think he's trying to preserve a Senate that no longer exists.

00:12:17.140 That's a big never-Trump thing.

00:12:19.580 Now, I happen to think that Mitch McConnell is the best we can practically do at this stage.

00:12:26.460 And he has done a lot of good things.

00:12:27.860 We're going to get Rubio, Lindsey Graham.

00:12:29.700 I mean, you know, who else are we going to get?

00:12:31.340 Yeah, I mean, but the simple fact is he's got to contend with a lot of people who want

00:12:36.700 to pretend that the situation has not changed.

00:12:39.040 This is why, you know, I tweet constantly.

00:12:41.100 And I know you're a huge fan of my Twitter account because you're awesome.

00:12:43.860 Pretty good Twitter account.

00:12:44.720 And I'll admit, I give credit where I do, Schlichter.

00:12:47.280 Okay.

00:12:47.840 I see a lot of liberal statements.

00:12:49.720 And I'll take the liberal statement that tells us how terrible and awful we are, but horrible

00:12:53.440 things should happen. 0.75

00:12:54.140 And liberals hate you.

00:12:56.280 And I'll send it out.

00:12:57.080 So, yeah, and I, I, I, I get woke, get woke.

00:13:02.120 When somebody's telling you he hates you and wants bad things to happen to you, you should

00:13:05.240 probably listen and act accordingly.

00:13:07.180 I don't mean you have to be hostile or vicious or obnoxious or violent or anything, but you

00:13:11.700 need to, you need to accept the reality that you're faced with, which is there is a significant

00:13:17.240 number of people on the left who actually hate you and want bad things to happen to you, everything

00:13:22.480 from losing your job to being murdered.

00:13:24.740 Kurt, as we're doing this interview, there is a story broke a little bit before, not a

00:13:29.140 story, but a statement.

00:13:30.400 Cynthia Nixon, whose claim to fame is she was on Sex and the City, hold the view yesterday,

00:13:35.740 the yipping harpies at the view that we need to abolish ICE. 1.00

00:13:40.980 We need to abolish the Department of the, the, uh, Immigration and Customs Enforcement,

00:13:46.060 the division under the Department of Homeland Security.

00:13:47.900 He said, quote, they have strayed so far from the interests of the American people and the

00:13:53.140 interests of humanity.

00:13:54.560 We need to abolish it.

00:13:57.460 These people are.

00:13:58.780 Well, that's an interesting perspective.

00:14:01.060 Look, they, all they have to do is be safe and they can't even pull that off.

00:14:05.740 No, I mean, you know, people hear something like that and you're like, oh man, you know,

00:14:09.780 I, I can see soft hearted kind of people.

00:14:11.760 Well, you know, the kids are really sad.

00:14:13.720 Maybe there's a way we can keep with their families.

00:14:15.880 And then you start hearing, well, we shouldn't have any border, border patrol at all.

00:14:20.460 And people are like, well, that's not what I'm saying.

00:14:23.520 I, I just, you know, I'm trying to ameliorate the damage that these people are caused by their

00:14:28.160 own actions.

00:14:28.840 And that's not what I, but this is why I want Nancy Pelosi around because she's admitting

00:14:34.400 that the left wants open borders.

00:14:36.340 They want complete anarchy.

00:14:37.560 They want to flood this nation with illegals. 1.00

00:14:39.440 Look, you say it all the time.

00:14:40.880 I say it. 0.98

00:14:41.720 They want us dead.

00:14:42.880 And when you read tweets from a guy like Peter Fonda for the schools where ICE agents

00:14:48.360 kids attend to be surrounded by people.

00:14:50.860 So the kids are terrorized and calling for Barron Trump to be ripped from his mother's 1.00

00:14:55.720 arms, thrown into a cage, to be sexually assaulted by a pedophile. 1.00

00:15:00.260 He's a children, mind you. 1.00

00:15:01.640 Aaron Trump is 12 years old. 0.54

00:15:03.840 What other conclusion can we draw other than the left hates us and wants us to die?

00:15:08.740 Well, there was a, a, a, a tubby bag of goo, um, never Trumper who, uh, basically mocked,

00:15:17.380 tried to mock me the other day.

00:15:18.840 Does, does her name rhyme with Hannah Mavaro?

00:15:22.220 Uh, no, it wasn't.

00:15:23.960 That was a different one.

00:15:25.180 It was, uh, another of the crew shilling types.

00:15:27.980 Oh, I remember that guy.

00:15:29.000 I remember that guy.

00:15:29.840 Yeah. 1.00

00:15:30.160 And, and, and this guy, you know, he's cursed, just a lunatic. 0.90

00:15:33.420 And I'm, and I'm sitting there and I'm going, okay, I understand that no one will ever love 0.99

00:15:37.560 you and that no woman has ever wanted you.

00:15:40.320 And I understand that you have no power because your, your philosophy of, uh, abject submission

00:15:47.320 has been rejected by the American people. 0.90

00:15:49.300 But can't you freaking read?

00:15:51.800 I mean, can't you read what they're literally saying? 0.95

00:15:54.800 Are you such a bad gaslighter that you can't, you, you can't even explain, you know, the tweet 0.99

00:16:02.520 where they literally say, I think, I think all conservatives should be hanged. 0.99

00:16:06.320 And he's like, why are you getting so upset? 0.91

00:16:08.100 I don't know.

00:16:08.900 Maybe I don't want to be hanged.

00:16:10.300 Right, right, right.

00:16:11.460 How dare we not want to die?

00:16:13.460 How dare we? 0.97

00:16:14.500 Look, the never Trumpers are, are the guys hoping the crocodile eats them last.

00:16:19.160 Maybe if they're obedient, submissive enough, maybe if they humiliate themselves enough, 0.96

00:16:23.180 uh, by dancing and capering for, uh, pennies tossed to them by their liberal laughing, liberal 0.97

00:16:28.960 masters, uh, maybe they'll get to keep their crappy little fake positions and power for 0.99

00:16:34.960 just a little while longer. 0.66

00:16:36.840 Uh, yeah, but I'm a man and I don't roll that way.

00:16:40.160 Look, I think you're right though.

00:16:41.520 I think that's exactly what it is.

00:16:43.860 They, they, they are, they're craving for the relevance they used to have.

00:16:47.140 And now they think that if they grovel, if they grovel to their establishment masters, 0.86

00:16:52.300 maybe just maybe this ridiculous whining will sell how somehow unseat Trump and they'll be 0.92

00:16:58.160 back in a position of power. 0.95

00:16:59.540 They can relive their glory days.

00:17:01.180 These people don't understand this guy is going to be in office until 2025.

00:17:05.280 I, I, I think he's going to do very, very well.

00:17:08.240 Uh, I think we're going to do okay at the midterms.

00:17:11.440 Uh, you know, I just, the perspective shift.

00:17:17.380 I don't think we lose the house, Kurt.

00:17:18.940 I don't think we lose the house.

00:17:20.800 I don't think we do either.

00:17:22.500 If we do, if we don't lose the house and, uh, if we expand our Senate, uh, rate or, uh,

00:17:30.740 margin, uh, you know, a normal organization would do an in-depth rethink of itself.

00:17:39.140 They do, you know, a personal inventory, right.

00:17:42.180 And try and figure out what's going on.

00:17:44.120 The liberals have gotten to the point by, by embracing their hatred of normal Americans

00:17:51.780 that they really can't do that because to do that is a concession that everything they

00:17:57.320 said is wrong and that these people may have a point.

00:18:00.100 Yeah.

00:18:00.260 I mean, that's really what it is.

00:18:01.320 Now to switch gears, we're running out of time, but last night, some sad news.

00:18:04.360 We knew this was coming.

00:18:05.620 Pearl's Krauthammer passed away.

00:18:07.200 Now I didn't always agree.

00:18:07.840 Oh, I didn't know that.

00:18:09.100 I didn't always agree with things Krauthammer said, however, I respected the guy immensely

00:18:16.320 because he was one of the few pros out there who did, I mean, he's a brilliant man, right?

00:18:22.680 He was a JVMD and absolutely brilliant, brilliant man, but he did his homework.

00:18:27.420 He was so well-versed on every issue.

00:18:29.400 He was, he, he went in so deep with his research that you always learn something watching the

00:18:36.680 guy.

00:18:37.100 I didn't have to agree with him.

00:18:38.500 He was a never Trump, a little bit of a never Trumper, but I'll tell you something.

00:18:41.500 You got smarter every single time you watch the guy.

00:18:44.640 Yeah.

00:18:45.020 The interesting guy is he, he, he was a guy who didn't prefer Trump, but he understood

00:18:50.180 why people would, and he didn't look down on him.

00:18:53.420 He didn't demean them.

00:18:54.200 He didn't demean them.

00:18:54.600 He tried to understand it like, like, like a good psychologist does.

00:18:58.540 He tried to understand what, what is the thought process?

00:19:01.700 You know, it's not, it's not so simple.

00:19:03.760 You know, this, this simple, this idea that everything can be explained simply because you just

00:19:08.160 totally lack character.

00:19:09.300 That's why you like Trump.

00:19:10.500 Right.

00:19:10.680 Well, if you're saying half of America lacks character that puts you, that, that, that,

00:19:15.800 that has implications for your future policy choices.

00:19:19.540 That's right.

00:19:19.940 Uh, and it's, he just didn't, he wanted to know why people didn't, he didn't have to

00:19:26.520 agree with them, but he wanted to understand why.

00:19:29.320 I haven't done this now for enough years where I was kind of burnt out.

00:19:32.420 So I only watched news as a matter of research, right.

00:19:35.620 For my own show.

00:19:36.460 Yeah.

00:19:37.100 He was one of the few that I watched and enjoyed.

00:19:39.360 I really, truly enjoyed his analysis and commentary because I, I, it was a learning experience,

00:19:45.000 a learning curve for me, uh, experience for me with him.

00:19:47.700 And then you realized how steep the learning curve of research was when you watched a guy

00:19:51.300 like that, who was one of the best out there.

00:19:52.920 He really, really was.

00:19:53.820 So it's a loss.

00:19:54.600 It's really a loss to our business, right?

00:19:56.460 It is.

00:19:57.080 And, and, and he, he was a guy with personal class.

00:19:59.860 Now, my wife and I went to one of these events and he was the guest of honor.

00:20:04.100 Uh, and you know, they, they'll sometimes let you have photographs with them and somebody

00:20:08.320 had invited me and I was entitled to a free photograph with him.

00:20:11.180 Um, I usually go, eh, I wanted to go up and shake his hand.

00:20:16.660 Um, you know, I did go up and I'm, and you know, he's, he's been with 60, 70 people fawning

00:20:22.760 over him just on how great it was.

00:20:25.000 It's easy to get tired.

00:20:26.600 You know, obviously he had physical limitations, but he was just as, as pleasant and as classy

00:20:31.340 as could be a real gentleman.

00:20:34.080 And you're just, you know, just, just a class act.

00:20:37.740 And I've never heard anyone say anything bad about him.

00:20:40.320 No, never. 1.00

00:20:41.180 Other than stupid liberals wishing him death. 1.00

00:20:43.620 Right. 1.00

00:20:44.180 Um, you know, I, uh, I'm sorry he's passed away.

00:20:48.620 Yeah, me too.

00:20:49.140 He treated everybody in the industry with, with dignity, with respect.

00:20:51.720 And he really was one of the best, one of the best out there.

00:20:54.820 Anyway, Slikter, we ran out of time.

00:20:56.340 You have a great weekend, my friend.

00:20:58.500 I'll talk to you next week.

00:20:59.900 Thanks.

00:21:00.980 All right.

00:21:01.260 Look forward to it.

00:21:01.820 All right.

00:21:02.320 All right.

00:21:03.320 All right.

00:21:04.320 All right.

00:21:05.320 All right.

00:21:06.320 All right.

00:21:07.320 All right.

00:21:08.320 All right.

00:21:09.320 All right.

00:21:10.320 All right.

00:21:10.380 All right.

00:21:10.880 You know, I often talk on the show about the broken windows policing strategy, things we

00:21:17.160 did back when I was a cop in New York in the 1990s and how attacking the little things led

00:21:22.600 to the bigger crimes being reduced, being mitigated.

00:21:25.100 Well, it's unfortunately, I should say it unfortunately seems to be the case that liberals around the country, the left, are starting to reverse that policy.

00:21:33.380 Now, an associated, associated press story, death's rise after California reduces criminal penalties.

00:21:41.660 Here to unpack this with me is our good friend, Dr. Adam Dobrin, a criminology professor and all-around knowledgeable guy on these issues.

00:21:49.660 Adam, I'm reading this story.

00:21:50.660 Adam.

00:21:51.660 I'm reading this story.

00:21:52.660 It's associated press story out of Sacramento, California.

00:21:53.660 It says California voters decision to reduce penalties for drug and property crimes in 2014 contributed to a jump in car burglaries, stoplifting, and other death.

00:22:05.940 Another researcher said larcenies increased about 9% by 2016 for about 135 more deaths per 100,000 residents than when the tougher penalties had been around.

00:22:19.820 This, to me, I mean, you're the scientist, you're the data scientist, but this, to me, sure seems like correlation, is it not?

00:22:27.020 Seems like it to me, and I often warn people when you have, I mostly look at homicide data, when you have a small increase, you're going to have a huge percentage increase.

00:22:36.300 This is the inverse.

00:22:38.080 That rate increase is huge, but the percentage is, seems like a pretty, when you hear, oh, 9%, that's not much, but 135 for 100,000, that's a huge increase.

00:22:46.560 That means they just have a pretty high baseline to start with.

00:22:49.820 Yeah, I mean, here's a number that, it says San Francisco alone recorded more than 30,000 auto burglaries last year.

00:22:58.880 That would be 2017.

00:23:00.840 I mean, that just seems to me to be.

00:23:03.000 And those are, those are the recorded ones.

00:23:05.120 How many people in San Francisco don't even call the police to let them know about those?

00:23:09.140 Yeah, that's a good point.

00:23:10.100 What's the point?

00:23:11.120 So, this says Proposition 47 lowered criminal sentences for drug possession, theft, stoplifting, identity theft,

00:23:18.760 receiving stolen property, writing bad checks, and check forgery from felonies that can bring prison time to misdemeanors that often bring minimal, if any, jail time.

00:23:29.900 While researchers linked the measure more to theft, they found that it did not lend or lead to the state's increase in violent crime.

00:23:37.780 But violent crime spiked 13% after Prop 47 passed.

00:23:43.960 But researchers, again, said the trend started earlier and was mainly because of unrelated changes in crime reporting by the FBI and the LAPD.

00:23:52.020 But what do you think?

00:23:53.300 Are these researchers far left state researchers or does that claim hold water?

00:23:57.420 Did Proposition 47, which reduced the penalties on misdemeanor, larceny, theft-type crimes, have no direct effect on violent crime, or did it?

00:24:07.600 It's hard to say, you know, I don't want to put my reputation as a criminologist on the line here and say that's exactly what happened.

00:24:13.380 But, you know, any kind of measurement change, if the FBI is measuring things differently in California or if LAPD is reporting things differently, that's going to have a change.

00:24:21.800 But city after city, history has shown clearly that when you don't enforce these minor quality-of-life crimes, eventually you're going to have an increase in other-type crimes either, too.

00:24:33.100 So if the violent crime that went up was not a direct correlation or response to these crimes going up because of the reduced penalties, it's going to happen.

00:24:43.320 So let's just be patient, and it's going to go up.

00:24:46.940 I mean, when you look at cities like San Francisco and just the epidemic of just overt drug use and vagrancy and just filth in the street, that eventually is going to create violent crimes.

00:25:01.220 If it hasn't yet, it will.

00:25:03.500 So they go into sex crimes as well.

00:25:05.400 They say the FBI broadened its definition of sexual crimes in 2014 while the LAPD improved its crime reporting after previously underreporting violent crimes.

00:25:16.900 If it weren't for those changes, researchers found California's violent crime rate would have increased 4.7 percent from 2014 to 2016.

00:25:28.220 So what are they saying, that the increase in violent crime would have been less had the FBI and the LAPD not modified its reporting mechanisms?

00:25:37.700 Well, those were significant changes, the change in the sex crimes.

00:25:40.800 But how many of the increase of that percentage of violent crimes was all sex crime?

00:25:46.920 The FBI changed in the definition.

00:25:48.680 They had a very, very constricted definition of sex crimes until 2014.

00:25:53.540 It was laughably out of date.

00:25:56.160 Well, what was it?

00:25:56.920 Let's get into the weeds a little bit on that.

00:25:59.100 What was the definition?

00:26:00.380 What is it today?

00:26:01.480 It basically said in a sex crime, only males could be offenders and only females could be victims.

00:26:07.180 That was sort of the biggest change that they had.

00:26:09.740 And then there were some more specific activities that were included, that were excluded.

00:26:14.560 But now they include a male can be a victim, which is a huge change.

00:26:21.460 Until 2014, by FBI definition, males could not be the victim of rape, which is just silly. 0.92

00:26:28.380 And they said only males could be the offenders of rape, which is also silly.

00:26:32.460 But what they also included was some measure of consent that it includes now people who are incapable of giving consent, people with less developed mental capacities, and also based on intoxication, that consent is a key part of this definition.

00:26:51.380 So it's a modernized, real definition.

00:26:54.500 The previous definition basically came out of medieval England, so it's undercounting all the crimes that were out, all the sex crimes.

00:27:02.180 Gotcha.

00:27:02.660 So that expanded definition of what, for example, a sex crime was on the part of the FBI is partially why we're seeing, what is this, an 8.3% increase over what would have been a 4.7%.

00:27:15.180 Correct.

00:27:15.700 But those aren't all sex crimes that are responsible for that increase.

00:27:20.340 Right, right.

00:27:21.000 Was there any expansion in definition of violent crime?

00:27:23.640 Did they add anything that wasn't previously there?

00:27:25.680 Or could this have been the LAPD's reporting mechanism where maybe they did that?

00:27:30.020 Not since 2014.

00:27:32.120 I mean, there have been changes, some significant changes.

00:27:35.880 In 1968, they changed, they broadened the definition of aggravated assault.

00:27:39.920 I mean, I'm going to have to go through one of the books I wrote to really look at the, in the weeds for the definitions.

00:27:45.280 1990.

00:27:46.400 No, that was NCVS.

00:27:47.760 Never mind.

00:27:48.160 But there have been some changes over time, but not, that was the biggest one recently.

00:27:54.700 Particularly, you can exclude, in hate crime, they've changed, expanded the definition, but that's not relevant here either.

00:28:00.800 Okay, so this then might, might indicate, I don't want to put your reputation as a criminologist on the line, but this might indicate something troubling, that there's another reason for the rise in crime.

00:28:10.420 It's not expanded definitions by the FBI.

00:28:13.480 I would say so.

00:28:14.680 Wow.

00:28:14.920 But, another caveat, crime has been historically low for just 10, 15 years, and so it's going to naturally, it has to go up.

00:28:24.900 But I've been saying that now for 10 or 15 years, crime has to go up, it has to go up, it has to go up, and then it hasn't been going up.

00:28:30.760 So, this is, this is the early part of the reversal.

00:28:34.780 Now, when we see crime going up now in America, it's primarily hitting a handful of cities.

00:28:41.820 It's not the whole country that we're having as inverts. 0.97

00:28:44.720 And so there are, you know, a half a dozen cities where violent crime, and again, what we're seeing in these California cities isn't violent crime.

00:28:52.880 The huge change, it's, you know, it's these quality of life, the drugs, the vandalism, things like that, the California change.

00:29:01.020 Now, the big problem, and I think that article that you're quoting alludes to, is this is going to have a longer-term effect, that the politicians think they're being nice to the criminals by being less severe, by changing felonies to misdemeanors.

00:29:13.440 In the long run, this is going to backfire, because if these people were charged and convicted of felonies, that means they generally go to prison, and they would get treatment for their drug problem.

00:29:24.640 Now that they're getting misdemeanors that aren't being charged, aren't being prosecuted, they're not getting treatment.

00:29:30.160 And so this is going to exacerbate the drug problem that's sort of the underlying root of all of this.

00:29:36.420 Okay, so let me, let's dig into this a little bit more.

00:29:38.960 They're saying that the ballot measure led to the lowest arrest rate in state history in 2015, in California state history, as experts said police frequently ignored crimes that brought minimal punishment.

00:29:51.900 So does that mean that the police were saying, well, if the political powers that be aren't going to send these people to jail, then we're not even going to waste our time arresting for these crimes?

00:30:00.520 Absolutely, and given the political climate in that era, that you see a couple of high-profile events where police were going after misdemeanor offenders that blew up, and then the police got in a tremendous amount of negative press, and actually life-threatening situations, then what's the point?

00:30:19.140 Why put your career or even your life at risk to enforce a crime that the system isn't going to follow through on?

00:30:26.920 I'm going to go through this pretty much paragraph by paragraph, line by line, because it's very interesting.

00:30:31.540 Jail bookings in 12 sample counties, I assume California counties, dropped about 8%, driven by a reduction in bookings for Proposition 47 crimes.

00:30:42.780 Well, that seems pretty reasonable.

00:30:44.380 If you're an idealistic, somewhat naive, hopeful person, you're going to think, well, this person's not going to be over-involved by the system.

00:31:12.080 The system's not going to create this label of criminal, so they're not going to self-identify as criminal, so then they're going to become less criminal.

00:31:19.460 That's how you justify it to yourself.

00:31:21.600 Well, they kind of say this here, okay, in the next line.

00:31:23.960 Offenders convicted of those crimes, Prop 47 crimes, were about 3% less likely to be convicted of a new crime within two years.

00:31:31.800 But the researchers said it's not clear if that was because they didn't actually re-offend, commit new crimes, or because they were less likely to be arrested and prosecuted because of the lower penalties, thereby keeping authorities in the dark about whether or not they were committing new crimes.

00:31:49.220 I added the end to that, but that's essentially the summary.

00:31:52.780 Yeah, if police aren't catching and prosecuting, then that's going to lower recidivism right there.

00:31:59.220 Well, because there's no reporting up to the FBI, up to the state, so you don't know it.

00:32:03.760 And again, like I said earlier, the public is aware of this as well, so they're not going to be calling the police.

00:32:09.580 If you get your car window broken and stuff stolen out of your front seat of your automobile, what's the point in calling the police?

00:32:16.060 Right, right.

00:32:16.940 They're not going to do anything.

00:32:17.800 They're going to tell you to call your insurance company.

00:32:19.420 And let's face it, hell, even in places where they don't do this, the cops aren't out there looking for the guy that broke into a car.

00:32:24.820 No, but you couple that with sort of the mentality of the left right now, the cops aren't the good guys.

00:32:31.120 And the less interaction you have with the police, the better.

00:32:33.820 It's like a perfect storm of fomenting more and more petty crime because the public's not going to call the police, but the criminals know that even if they are caught, which is a low probability event anyway, even in the cities that do prosecute, let's all be aware of this.

00:32:51.100 When crimes are committed, the actual probability of getting caught by the police is very, very, very low, that the arrest statistics, and I'm going to combine them, I'm not going to just real simple, for the index offenses, murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, larceny, burglary, and arson, it's around 10% to 15% of the arrest.

00:33:12.140 Of perpetrators that are apprehended after the fact?

00:33:15.280 No, no, of crimes that are reported to the police.

00:33:17.380 Those index offenses, hold on, go back.

00:33:21.880 Those index offenses are, is that number you gave me, the 10% to 15% of people caught for those index offenses?

00:33:28.780 Or are those index offenses?

00:33:29.720 Of all the index offenses that are reported to or discovered by the police.

00:33:35.860 Oh, gotcha.

00:33:36.280 Okay, so the rape robber, all of the index offenses that are reported to law enforcement, the arrest rate's only around 10% to 15%.

00:33:42.800 Correct.

00:33:43.300 And so when you start looking at these petty crimes, first of all, very, very few of them actually get reported to the police.

00:33:49.200 And the lower the seriousness of the crime, the lower the probability of an arrest to start.

00:33:54.140 Yeah, I mean, look, I worked in the Bronx, you know, we know people that work in busy areas.

00:33:58.920 Somebody broke into a car, we were filing a report and sending it over to whatever investigative unit handled that.

00:34:03.920 Nobody ever expected it to be solved.

00:34:06.040 We all knew we were generating that report as a matter of crime stats.

00:34:09.500 The person was going to go to their insurance company, they're going to get the window fixed, and everybody was going to go on their merry way.

00:34:13.420 The likelihood of that detectives weren't stopping what they were doing, dusting these windows for fingerprints to hunt down the dial broke the window.

00:34:20.620 And the reality is a lot, we see this after city after city after city in the past 15 years or so, is a lot of cities are overtly doctoring those crime statistics so that they don't look like they're high crime cities.

00:34:32.260 Well, we see that everywhere where they sort of cook their crime books, right, by discouraging residents from taking a minor thing a little bit too far, especially the quality of life crimes.

00:34:44.220 Right.

00:34:44.620 And so I think you couple that with everything that's going on in these California cities, when they say crime went up, whatever, 9% or 12%, it's most likely more than that.

00:34:54.640 That's just based on very limited data.

00:34:57.500 Okay, so let's go back to something you spoke about a little while ago from this AP piece.

00:35:01.960 And this piece is only from about, from last week.

00:35:04.500 It was very recent.

00:35:05.640 Reduced penalties mean fewer drug addicts now seem to be getting treatment than are stealing to support their habit.

00:35:12.920 And they put that in quotes, are stealing to support their habit.

00:35:16.180 That St. Louis County, St. Louis Obispo County Chief Probation Officer, Jim Salio, President of the Chief Probation Officers of California.

00:35:25.700 Explain that for us, Adam.

00:35:27.320 Well, I think it's pretty straightforward.

00:35:28.960 It's that when you have drug addicts who are committing these crimes to get money to support their drug habits, then unless they get some form of treatment, they're just going to continue on this self-destructive path.

00:35:42.060 And it's going to get worse and worse and worse.

00:35:43.260 And last year, according to the CDC, we had almost 69,000 drug overdose deaths in this country.

00:35:49.700 And one of the things that does seem to work, and, you know, rehab programs aren't the greatest things in the world, but some of these drug treatment programs in correctional facilities do have a pretty good track record.

00:36:00.300 And so by being nice to these people, by not arresting them, from dropping it to a felony, to a misdemeanor status, that even if they are arrested, they're not going to be in a facility that has treatment.

00:36:11.360 You're encouraging the addict to go steal more to support their habit.

00:36:14.900 It's two-sided.

00:36:15.900 You're basically giving them permission.

00:36:16.580 You're doing that, but then also you're not creating an opportunity as pejorative as the opportunity is.

00:36:24.400 They're behind bars.

00:36:25.320 But that is a forced treatment model where you have a – it's not a perfect success.

00:36:30.480 There's no such thing as perfect success.

00:36:31.980 But you have some measures of success that these people get treatment for their drug problems.

00:36:38.260 Look, something's better than nothing, right?

00:36:40.480 I mean, even if it's the most basic treatment in a county jail, some treatment is better than no treatment.

00:36:45.480 Absolutely.

00:36:45.840 It's better than having them on the street, being able to rip people off for drug money.

00:36:48.900 And even the eight months or so they're in jail, that's eight months that they're not doing drugs and they're getting clean and they're not overdosing.

00:36:57.060 So you just save their lives for at least eight months by incarcerating them.

00:37:02.160 People don't like it when you put it that way, that they're safer in prison than they're on the street.

00:37:06.740 They are safer in prison than on the street.

00:37:09.540 But the absence of treatment, this is – the whole – the people who promote the idea of reducing the drug.

00:37:15.820 Reducing these crimes from felonies to misdemeanors and then not even enforcing those misdemeanors are the same people who are strong into treatment and rehabilitation programs.

00:37:24.280 So what they're doing is they're killing their clientele in an in-stream.

00:37:30.820 Where do they get people from?

00:37:32.860 And so it's allowing these addictions to get worse and worse and worse.

00:37:38.080 It seems like the California Police Chiefs Association appears to agree with us.

00:37:46.000 Morgan Hill, California Police Chief, David Swing, who's president of that group, said researchers' findings are, quote,

00:37:52.700 consistent with what police chiefs across the state have seen since 2014.

00:37:57.160 And they showed the need for a proposed initiative intended for this November's ballot that would partially roll back the 2014 law.

00:38:05.900 That initiative, floated by the California Police Chiefs Association, would allow prison sentences for serial thieves,

00:38:14.280 reinstate DNA collections from those convicted of crimes where penalties were reduced,

00:38:18.900 and bar the earlier release of criminals convicted of additional violent, serious, and sexual crime.

00:38:24.780 Now, it seems like common sense.

00:38:27.380 What blows my mind is that all of these things were eradicated in Proposition 47.

00:38:32.660 Now, it's been a while since I've looked into this, but California has a very, very strict three strikes or even two strikes policy,

00:38:43.440 and they've had massive prison overcrowding in California.

00:38:46.760 California, this may have been a sort of backdoor approach to reduce prison crowding without presenting it that way,

00:38:54.140 presenting it as a way to be nice and, you know, these aren't bad people.

00:38:57.280 Right.

00:38:57.380 But the reality is when these are felonies, even if – California's got some crazy stories of these low, low-end felonies

00:39:06.020 where people are now being sentenced to prison, or not now, for the past 15 years or so,

00:39:09.640 for 25 to life because it's their second or third strike.

00:39:13.880 Wow.

00:39:14.980 So it does seem –

00:39:16.740 They're permissive on some things, but then they're draconian on others?

00:39:20.280 Right.

00:39:20.660 And each way it's going to backfire, that sooner or later you either get everybody in prison

00:39:24.920 or you've got to start flushing people out.

00:39:27.060 And it just seems like it's not a well-integrated system.

00:39:30.560 So the basic takeaway from this is that in addition to pretty much everything else

00:39:34.560 that government in California touches, they're screwing up law enforcement as well.

00:39:38.880 There you go.

00:39:43.800 You've got to protect your reputation as a criminologist.

00:39:46.660 As always, Adam, an absolute pleasure.

00:39:48.560 There's a criminology conference in California next – the big one is in the fall, and I will not be going.

00:39:54.380 No, I don't think the state of California is hiring you anytime soon, not with your political views.

00:39:58.620 Dr. Adam Dobrin, criminology professor, my good friend, always my friend.

00:40:01.920 A pleasure.

00:40:02.680 We'll be speaking soon.

00:40:08.880 So much going on this week, but I really wanted to focus on the backlash by Hollywood and professional sports against conservatives.

00:40:20.940 I mean, they really do hate us.

00:40:22.460 They basically don't want us to buy tickets to their movies.

00:40:24.800 They don't want us to patronize what they produce.

00:40:26.900 And now pro sports is creeping in as former NBA legend, Boston Celtics legend, Kevin McHale, was seen at the Trump rally in Duluth, Minnesota, a couple of nights ago.

00:40:36.520 There are people actually calling for McHale to be ostracized from basketball the way Pete Rose was from baseball for gambling on the game.

00:40:45.180 Here to discuss it all with me is our very own, the Hollywood conservative, Amanda Head. 0.76

00:40:51.240 Amanda, it's getting ridiculous. 1.00

00:40:53.780 We saw De Niro a couple of weeks ago at the Tonys, acting like a moron. 1.00

00:40:57.580 Well, I expect that, right? 1.00

00:40:58.920 He's in an echo chamber.

00:40:59.880 He's at the Tony Award, arguably the most left-wing room on the planet outside of the Chinese Communist Politburo, whatever they call it, or Kim Jong-un's inner circle.

00:41:11.280 That I expected.

00:41:12.240 Then we have Peter Fonda calling for violence against children.

00:41:16.460 And now the NBA, or I should say sportscasters, right, calling for McHale to be Kevin McHale, formerly of the Boston Celtics, to be basically ostracized from baseball.

00:41:32.360 Let me read you this, Amanda.

00:41:33.180 Quote, if Kevin McHale actually showed up to Trump's rally in Duluth today, with everything that is happening now, and with Trump's done and stands for, yeah, he's canceled, wrote Sports Talk radio host Henry Lake.

00:41:47.540 One of my childhood idols, Kevin McHale, just kicked six-year-old me right in the guts.

00:41:52.980 And I felt it 32 years later, with interest, wrote a fan in a widely shared tweet, adding, F-U, Kevin.

00:42:01.860 I mean, this is unhinged behavior, isn't it?

00:42:04.960 Yeah.

00:42:05.620 But, you know, I mean, we've actually seen instances of this very recently.

00:42:10.360 We saw it on social media with Jack Dorsey tweeting that he went to Chick-fil-A and he was forced to apologize.

00:42:18.980 We are at a point where if you are not violently opposed to the Trump administration, and I talked about this in a video this week.

00:42:27.880 You know, we blurred the lines between so much stuff, and we've gone so far to appease people, and especially with, like, identity politics and such. 0.95

00:42:38.080 We've gone so far that if you don't violently oppose this administration, then you are far right, and you should be doxed on the Internet, removed from the job, and your life should be destroyed.

00:42:48.960 And by the way, Amanda, we don't even know if this was Kevin McHale at the rally or a guy who looks like him.

00:42:55.940 We don't even know that yet.

00:42:56.840 Nobody's been able to confirm it's him, and the backlash is just deafening.

00:43:02.420 But you're right.

00:43:03.420 They hate us.

00:43:04.620 The left hates us.

00:43:06.600 They're comparing ICE agents to Nazi SS and the Gestapo.

00:43:11.560 They're comparing the Department of Homeland Security's headquarters to the Nazi HQ and holding facilities for people that came here illegally to concentration camps where people were exterminated.

00:43:24.100 I mean, they won't stop.

00:43:25.540 There is no end to their unhingedness, if that's a word.

00:43:30.080 The whole comparisons—I mean, again, the Nazi thing is, like, shorthand for Republican, right?

00:43:37.320 Of course.

00:43:38.260 Right.

00:43:38.360 Everything we do is something within the Nazi regime. 0.80

00:43:41.580 It's something Goebbels or Hitler would have done. 0.87

00:43:44.180 But the ironic thing is, is it's like, you know, pick up a history book.

00:43:48.400 If you think that it was Nazi policy to detain illegal non-citizens, detain their children in a facility where they get three meals a day, a roof over their head, video games, health care, eye care, education, if you think that's Nazi policy—

00:44:04.180 By the way, Amanda, a right to counsel that the U.S. government pays for.

00:44:08.160 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:08.480 If you think that's Nazi policy, you're a freaking idiot. 1.00

00:44:11.780 Oh, no, you're a moron. 1.00

00:44:12.800 You're an absolute moron. 1.00

00:44:13.720 And you've got people like Nancy Pelosi out there saying, after Trump gave them what they wanted, he signed an executive order reuniting the families, that a deal was cut with the devil. 1.00

00:44:24.240 Nancy Pelosi said a deal was made or cut with the devil.

00:44:28.320 They just want open borders.

00:44:30.460 But I really want to talk about this movement in Hollywood to hate conservatives.

00:44:37.120 I mean, De Niro at the Tony Awards got a standing ovation.

00:44:40.740 People in the sportscasting game are coming out, celebrating those, calling for Kevin McHale to be essentially kicked out of basketball, as if he was working with bookies to rig games. 0.98

00:44:54.060 And then you've got Peter Fonda calling for children to be terrorized and the son of the president to be raped by a pedophile. 0.92

00:45:03.660 Peter Fonda didn't even lose his verification on Twitter. 0.99

00:45:05.880 Nope. Look, Peter Fonda and Jane Fonda, brother and sister, the whole Fonda family, let this serve as a stern warning to anyone who thinks that their cousin is cute.

00:45:17.420 This is the product of incest. 0.98

00:45:19.380 This is the level of idiocy that you will achieve by procreating with a family member. 1.00

00:45:26.220 They've gone insane. 1.00

00:45:27.660 It's like Jane and Peter are trying to one-up each other.

00:45:31.020 Jane Fonda, you would think that she would have learned from the 70s what it's like when you...

00:45:36.640 Yeah, Hanoi Jane, right?

00:45:37.860 American rhetoric.

00:45:38.880 Yeah, Hanoi Jane.

00:45:40.280 But you know what, Peter?

00:45:41.580 He's F-list.

00:45:42.440 He's not even D-list.

00:45:43.960 Like, I would say we should boycott him, but I think he's pretty much unboycottable.

00:45:48.280 And let me tell you what the biggest travesty is here.

00:45:50.680 He totally ruined Easy Rider for me because at least Dennis Hopper remained cool.

00:45:55.480 He destroyed a great movie.

00:45:57.020 Yeah, but you know, here's the thing.

00:45:59.900 On the left, you've got people, you know, like this Celtics player, what's his name?

00:46:05.040 Kevin McHale.

00:46:06.020 Who the left is now demonizing, even though we don't know if it was him.

00:46:10.140 And, you know, Jack Dorsey and all of these people...

00:46:13.040 Well, but Amanda, go back there. 1.00

00:46:14.220 I want to go check through.

00:46:15.020 Now, now it's enough.

00:46:17.780 The left is so unhinged, it's enough to just look like another guy.

00:46:23.100 Maybe look, like maybe that's not even you. 0.83

00:46:25.120 You just look like another guy who was at a Trump rally.

00:46:28.340 And all of a sudden, you're going to be punished.

00:46:31.080 Look, my dad, all along growing up, people said that he looked like a cross between Steve Spurrier and Donald Trump.

00:46:36.700 And I'm a little worried for his life now.

00:46:38.580 Oh, yeah.

00:46:39.160 Oh, God, yeah.

00:46:40.040 No, poor guy.

00:46:41.840 Yeah, but what I was saying is, you know, you look at the way that the left treats someone, you know, one of their own, who maybe slips out of line.

00:46:50.780 They step out of the box a little bit.

00:46:53.160 They step away from the propaganda and they eat Chick-fil-A or they go to a Trump rally or they hold a normal interview with the president of the United States before he took office.

00:47:02.040 Right.

00:47:02.360 That's what the left does to you.

00:47:03.840 Can you imagine if people on the right started attacking you and I, John, if we went to Starbucks or if they started attacking us for having an iPhone?

00:47:14.460 Exactly.

00:47:15.660 Well, let me give you, let me take it a step further, Amanda.

00:47:18.300 Could you imagine if Peter Fonda said that about one of the Obama kids?

00:47:22.280 Oh, my gosh.

00:47:23.900 I mean, his movie, would Hollywood be releasing his movie?

00:47:27.020 Would Sony be releasing his movie?

00:47:29.200 Of course not.

00:47:30.340 But, you know, it's sad, but I'm just, you know, I mean, and you are too.

00:47:35.980 We're used to it.

00:47:36.920 We're used to it.

00:47:37.660 We're desensitized to it.

00:47:39.260 We're used to it.

00:47:40.040 We expect it.

00:47:41.720 But where does it end?

00:47:42.460 Look, Twitter is proven now, conclusively, conclusively proven that there is a double standard.

00:47:50.120 The fact that Henry Fonda didn't even lose three hours on Twitter, the fact that Henry Fonda still has a verified account,

00:47:55.720 the fact that Twitter hasn't issued a public statement, they're looking into it, and they've shut his account down.

00:48:00.920 The bias is now conclusively proven, in my opinion.

00:48:04.900 Where does it end?

00:48:05.560 Because conservatives aren't going to migrate off Twitter.

00:48:07.780 They're too invested.

00:48:08.880 I admit it.

00:48:09.800 I'd like to.

00:48:10.720 I can't.

00:48:11.280 It's a very effective platform for media and brand building for me, for you, for many in our business.

00:48:17.840 But we're not going to migrate off Twitter.

00:48:19.360 They've got us.

00:48:20.360 They've got us.

00:48:21.100 I think the only way it ends, and I don't foresee this happening because I live in Hollywood, and unfortunately, I witness the cowardice of people within the entertainment industry and how much they so tightly cling to their fame.

00:48:35.360 You know, you have a lot of celebrities out there who spout off this hate and this leftist propaganda, but you have a lot of celebrities who also keep quiet.

00:48:44.620 Those are the ones, surprisingly enough, who look at these far-left hippie celebrities and they're thinking, you people are maniacs, but they don't have the guts to say anything because they know that they will completely lose their hats within the industry. 0.97

00:48:57.120 This will end when some of those people start growing balls. 1.00

00:48:59.820 Well, that's exactly what it is, right? 0.98

00:49:02.120 You need more John Voight.

00:49:04.000 You need more Vince Vaughn.

00:49:05.260 You need more Adam Sandler and his partner.

00:49:08.320 I can't think of his partner's name right now.

00:49:09.780 He's been in all of his movies.

00:49:10.880 Alan, you know what I'm talking about?

00:49:12.940 He's a pretty unabashed Republican, not an uber conservative, but a right-leaning Republican.

00:49:19.080 Alan, I can't think of his name.

00:49:20.580 James Woods and Kevin Sorbo.

00:49:21.980 James Woods, right, right.

00:49:24.000 Point is, we need more of these people.

00:49:25.780 James Woods is about the most outspoken, but, you know, here's the thing.

00:49:29.000 John Voight, James Woods, Adam Sandler are Hollywood legends.

00:49:32.080 They're very, very wealthy, very powerful guys in Hollywood.

00:49:35.200 You can't do anything to them.

00:49:37.540 Yeah.

00:49:37.720 They're so good at what they do.

00:49:39.160 They have such brands that their brands are impervious to their politics.

00:49:44.360 What about the next generation, though?

00:49:45.780 Because I would have thought Roseanne Barr fell into that category.

00:49:49.500 Apparently, she didn't.

00:49:50.860 Yeah, and what's concerning is that there's no one really within my generation.

00:49:56.500 One of my dear friends who is on a really, really big show right now, he's from Oklahoma,

00:50:02.480 and he's a hardcore conservative, but he'll never say anything.

00:50:05.700 So it's a generational thing for those people.

00:50:09.120 They have obtained success, and like you said, they're untouchable within the industry

00:50:12.420 because they are always going to be lucrative when it comes to box office sales.

00:50:17.620 But you have people, you know, around my age and their 30s in the industry who, you know,

00:50:22.400 they've obtained success, but they're not quite at that level yet where they're untouchable.

00:50:28.640 And I don't know if they will, you know, hopefully someday they'll start speaking out

00:50:33.160 after they achieve that level of solidified success.

00:50:37.320 But, I mean, who knows?

00:50:38.920 I mean, Hollywood just might end up being one of those lost cultures here in America. 0.96

00:50:45.300 And I say this, I feel like I say this on a weekly basis.

00:50:49.640 I'm a broken record.

00:50:50.900 But conservatives, we really have to start putting our wallet where our mouth is.

00:50:56.500 People, Ryan always makes fun of me for my boycott list.

00:51:01.840 I have a running boycott list in my phone.

00:51:03.800 But I absolutely refuse to pay $13 a ticket to go see some people in the movie theaters.

00:51:09.700 And I refuse to go see certain people in concert.

00:51:11.940 And I refuse to buy certain people's music on iTunes.

00:51:14.560 And yeah, it's good music.

00:51:15.580 I like it.

00:51:16.320 I would like to have it in my iTunes library.

00:51:18.660 But I'm not going to patronize those people.

00:51:21.180 But you know what?

00:51:22.360 You got to draw the line somewhere.

00:51:23.400 I don't blame you.

00:51:24.660 You got to draw the line somewhere.

00:51:25.600 I mean, we're constantly, if enough of us do it, you hit her in the wallet.

00:51:30.860 But look, Roseanne lost her show. 1.00

00:51:33.240 Peter Fonda gets his movie released.

00:51:35.000 Her ratings are higher than his.

00:51:37.220 She was making ABC Disney far more money than his little boutique film that 11 people will watch will ever make Sony.

00:51:44.440 It's like Sony classics.

00:51:46.280 It's not even regular Sony Pictures.

00:51:47.940 So you got to stop watching the alternate program.

00:51:50.380 You got to not watch the Roseanne spinoff.

00:51:53.640 I mean, people have to start feeling more convicted about this stuff.

00:51:58.440 And yeah, it's inconvenient to have to read a book instead of see the movie that you've been wanting to see.

00:52:03.720 But it's got a liberal a-hole lefty celebrity in it. 1.00

00:52:07.860 So put your dadgum wallet where your mouth is.

00:52:09.940 Yeah.

00:52:10.680 No, Amanda, I couldn't agree more.

00:52:12.560 I mean, I'm glad you're out of that business and on this side of the world where you can at least view your opinions.

00:52:19.080 Amanda Head, fellow rebel, Hollywood conservative, my good friend, as always, an absolute pleasure.

00:52:24.580 Thank you.

00:52:25.180 Thanks, please.

00:52:25.560 Thanks, please.

Rebel News Podcast - June 22, 2018

Off The Cuff Declassified： Immigration, Peter Fonda, Crime, and Hollywood

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