Rebel News Podcast - April 13, 2018


Off The Cuff Declassified - John Cardillo - April 13⧸2018


Episode Stats

Length

40 minutes

Words per Minute

189.08188

Word Count

7,635

Sentence Count

704

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

Kurt Schlichter joins me to discuss all things Trump, Mueller, and Rosenstein. Also, Rob O'Donnell joins us to discuss the latest in the Scooter Libby case and the California Guard's new role in supporting the border patrol.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, Kurt Schlichter joins me to discuss all things Comey,
00:00:04.540 Mueller, Rosenstein, and we're really going to dig into what looks like Donald Trump's
00:00:09.040 opening shots against those who are trying to take him down.
00:00:12.360 Looks like he's going on offense, and we love it.
00:00:14.960 Also, Rob O'Donnell joins me.
00:00:16.820 Rob is a good friend of mine in a New York City, well, a retired New York City homicide
00:00:20.400 detective.
00:00:21.160 He's going to bring us very, very disturbing details about the savage who murdered 32-year-old
00:00:27.660 police officer Sean Gannon in Massachusetts last night also shot his canine partner in
00:00:32.560 the face and neck.
00:00:33.580 When you hear the rap sheet on this bad guy, it's going to turn your stomach.
00:00:44.740 President Trump has told us he's going to pardon Scooter Libby, something George W.
00:00:49.480 Bush wouldn't do.
00:00:50.900 I think this is a big slap in the face to Mueller, homie, and, well, the Bush family.
00:00:56.920 Joining me now to analyze this and so much more, because it's Friday, is Kurt Schlichter.
00:01:02.640 How are you, Kurt?
00:01:03.820 Hey, I'm doing great.
00:01:05.180 How about you?
00:01:05.880 You're out there in California.
00:01:07.380 It's a glorious day.
00:01:08.560 Paul Ryan's leaving the Congress.
00:01:10.520 Jerry Brown is letting the National Guard work on the, you know, help our border agents.
00:01:15.320 My boys.
00:01:15.880 My guys.
00:01:16.540 Your guys.
00:01:17.400 Your guys.
00:01:18.040 You're going to be doing a great job.
00:01:19.280 So real quick.
00:01:20.000 This is a job we've done for years.
00:01:21.740 Years.
00:01:22.560 We're very good at it.
00:01:23.720 What is the California Guard, before we get into everything about Mueller, Comey, Trump,
00:01:27.420 what's the California Guard going to be doing exactly?
00:01:29.640 You left as a colonel.
00:01:30.760 You spent 27 years.
00:01:31.840 You know quite a bit about this.
00:01:33.200 Well, 23 of them.
00:01:34.240 I was in California as a guardsman.
00:01:36.260 Wow.
00:01:36.480 And we've been doing this mission, supporting border operations, counter-drug stuff, for
00:01:42.200 decades.
00:01:42.980 Our guys know this back and forth.
00:01:44.760 This is just basically ramping up what we already do.
00:01:48.020 And what's interesting is California actually came back to the president and said, look,
00:01:53.580 you want us down the border?
00:01:54.780 We have other issues.
00:01:56.120 We have the coast.
00:01:57.540 Because they'll come around the border and come up the coast.
00:01:59.460 Oh, sure.
00:01:59.660 Come in boats.
00:02:00.120 Yeah, and they'll go into Northern California, and you've got a lot of illegal aliens up there
00:02:04.340 essentially growing pot.
00:02:07.100 Right, right, right.
00:02:07.960 But that's a problem.
00:02:08.880 Up in the Mendocino County area, that whole area, yep.
00:02:11.900 Right.
00:02:12.500 Now, our guys are only providing support to law enforcement.
00:02:15.180 They're not actually going out and doing stuff, which is right, because you don't want soldiers
00:02:18.980 going in and doing police work if you can help it.
00:02:21.420 And if you can, yeah, if you can free up the border patrol, you know, by, you know,
00:02:26.920 drive the trucks, analyze the intel, monitors things.
00:02:30.320 So the guard, are they going to be a presence, or are they going to be support in intel analysis
00:02:35.300 role?
00:02:35.980 Which is how we've been doing for years.
00:02:37.800 We did that for Bush.
00:02:38.720 We did that for Obama.
00:02:40.200 We know this mission inside out.
00:02:41.820 Our guys are very, very good at it.
00:02:43.740 We'll probably have more.
00:02:44.660 There's like room for 400, and there'll probably be more volunteers.
00:02:49.160 That's a lot.
00:02:49.740 You essentially go on active duty for a year or two.
00:02:52.780 Look, 400 to supplement the border patrol, that's large.
00:02:56.180 I mean, that's a large, yeah.
00:02:58.120 That's a substantial thing.
00:02:59.360 When you get the guys, you know, they're driving the trucks, they're operating the equipment,
00:03:03.500 and the border patrol's out there doing border patrol.
00:03:05.580 So California actually, you know, I hate giving credit to Jerry Brown, but you've got to.
00:03:09.420 He's always been pretty good about the guard, too.
00:03:11.400 He's not, you know, I didn't say a lot of things about Jerry Brown, but you can't call
00:03:14.400 him a dummy, and he takes very good care of the guard.
00:03:16.880 And they went back to Washington and said, hey, we can do even more if you give us the
00:03:23.880 flexibility not just to be within like five miles of the border.
00:03:27.380 The Pentagon, in a rare burst of competence, said, oh, well, that sounds like a good idea.
00:03:31.940 Let's do that.
00:03:32.920 So California is, you know, going to use the guard in a smart way.
00:03:35.960 So I'm very happy about this.
00:03:36.980 That's encouraging.
00:03:37.880 I mean, 400 bodies.
00:03:40.480 I mean, in law enforcement terms, a large law enforcement agency is considered 200 or better.
00:03:47.140 So this is a large force going in there to supplement border patrol.
00:03:50.140 Oh, yeah.
00:03:50.600 Yeah.
00:03:51.040 Oh, yeah.
00:03:51.580 This is a significant help, and it's a mission the guard's very, very good at doing.
00:03:56.360 I would always have, because the unit, the guys still drill with your unit.
00:04:01.280 Right.
00:04:01.580 So their full-time job is go work border mission, and then their part-time job.
00:04:05.880 So I would always have, you know, 30 or 40 of guys in my battalion would be on the border
00:04:10.240 mission.
00:04:10.900 Right.
00:04:11.120 And, you know, when we got together on weekends or for annual training, they'd be coming out.
00:04:15.340 I think this is encouraging, and it just sends a good message.
00:04:18.840 People trying to come over that when Jerry Brown cooperates, he's also giving liberal governors
00:04:23.140 around the country zero cover now for not cooperating.
00:04:25.980 That is true.
00:04:27.000 I mean, he could have been a real jerk about it, but he understands that there really are
00:04:32.040 problems from the border.
00:04:33.660 That's right.
00:04:34.340 And, you know, they've got to be solved, and the guard's a good way to do it.
00:04:39.680 Could not agree more.
00:04:41.040 We've got to give credit where we're due to Jerry Brown for once.
00:04:42.900 That might be the first and last time that'll ever happen.
00:04:45.680 Yeah.
00:04:46.000 You know, there's a lot of things about Jerry Brown.
00:04:47.760 He's not a dumb guy.
00:04:50.000 He's not a dumb guy.
00:04:50.840 I've got some stories, though, from my vice cop friends.
00:04:53.440 Broken clocks are right twice a day, Shelecter.
00:04:55.640 All right.
00:04:56.060 Let's go over.
00:04:56.980 Offline.
00:04:57.560 Trump has, I think, posted what is the most glorious tweet I've ever read.
00:05:03.260 I'm going to read it for the audience.
00:05:04.380 Share with me.
00:05:05.620 James Comey is a proven leaker and liar.
00:05:08.440 This is, by the way, this is a two-part tweet.
00:05:11.300 James Comey is a proven leaker and liar.
00:05:13.440 Virtually everyone in Washington thought he should be fired for the terrible job he did, hyphen,
00:05:19.120 until he was, comma, in fact, comma, fired, period.
00:05:22.700 He leaked classified information for which he should be prosecuted.
00:05:26.700 He lied to Congress under oath.
00:05:28.580 He is a weak and untruthful slimeball who was, at the time, who was, as time has proven,
00:05:37.000 a terrible director of the FBI.
00:05:39.180 His handling of the crooked Hillary Clinton case and the events surrounding it will go down
00:05:42.960 as one of the worst, quote, unquote, botch jobs of, of history.
00:05:47.540 Not in history, of history.
00:05:49.220 It was my great honor to fire James Comey, exclamation point.
00:05:52.840 I love this president.
00:05:54.820 It's so funny.
00:05:56.620 He doesn't take any guff from these dirtbags.
00:05:59.840 And Comey, and this, this tour of James Comey's is glorious.
00:06:04.580 It's incredible.
00:06:05.020 Even Stephanopoulos, or, yeah, Stephanopoulos is scoring off this turd.
00:06:10.320 I mean, he's like, well, did, you know, when you were talking to the president about this
00:06:13.660 PP dossier, did you mention it was, you know, the result of Democratic oppo research?
00:06:19.420 And he's like, well, no.
00:06:21.400 Well, shouldn't you have?
00:06:23.180 Well, you know, that's a good question.
00:06:25.180 You dumbass.
00:06:25.840 Oh, he's six, just a six foot seven, six foot seven whiny baby.
00:06:32.260 Now, one of the questions.
00:06:34.200 Did you read the crying part?
00:06:35.860 Yes.
00:06:36.120 Where he's like, you know, Obama said I did a good job.
00:06:39.100 I wanted to cry.
00:06:40.320 You sippery, what?
00:06:42.740 You know.
00:06:43.400 Good God, man.
00:06:44.400 You ought to, you ought to headline a weekly standard cruise, you femboy loser.
00:06:49.100 He could be getting.
00:06:50.000 You looming geek.
00:06:51.580 He could be doing dirty dancing with Bill Kristol on the lead up deck.
00:06:54.680 Oh, God.
00:06:55.300 And nobody puts Comey in a corner.
00:06:57.140 Nobody puts Comey.
00:06:57.800 Nobody puts Comey in a corner.
00:06:59.020 Oh, what a sap, man.
00:07:00.920 Yeah.
00:07:01.080 And you're and you've seen the you've seen the polls where people are just sick of Mueller
00:07:07.920 after this Cohen thing.
00:07:09.400 Oh, it's ridiculous.
00:07:09.820 And he's going in for an injunction today.
00:07:12.000 And I, you know, if I were a federal judge and somebody can't, I don't care if you were
00:07:15.620 raiding Hillary's lawyer's office.
00:07:17.320 Oh, absolutely.
00:07:17.760 I'd be like, why are you raiding a lawyer's office?
00:07:21.180 Well, you know, crime fraud exception.
00:07:24.400 So you're going to take all this stuff.
00:07:25.900 Look through it in case you find a crime.
00:07:27.680 That's a quote.
00:07:28.180 I was going to I was going to ask you.
00:07:29.760 I was going to ask you about that.
00:07:30.780 You've been tweeting quite a bit about the crime fraud, about the crime fraud exception.
00:07:34.740 I'm glad you are, because most people don't understand what it is.
00:07:38.400 People in law enforcement worked in the legal profession.
00:07:41.200 Yeah.
00:07:41.340 It doesn't mean there's no attorney-client privilege unless you prove there's no crime
00:07:46.220 fraud.
00:07:46.580 It's the other way around.
00:07:48.300 Right.
00:07:48.500 Right.
00:07:49.260 Right.
00:07:49.540 It's when the lawyer gets up on it.
00:07:51.160 You call a lawyer to a grand jury.
00:07:53.180 Did so-and-so, you know, did so-and-so ask you to help commit this fraud?
00:07:57.740 And he goes, I can't answer attorney-client privilege.
00:07:59.800 No, you can, because there'd be no protection for it.
00:08:03.620 Correct.
00:08:03.880 And then you either say yes, or you take the fifth.
00:08:05.940 Because you say no, or take the fifth.
00:08:07.480 Because the lawyer would have been part of a criminal conspiracy.
00:08:10.000 Exactly.
00:08:10.400 So if they said, Kurt, did he ever ask you to help participate in this crime?
00:08:17.700 I would either have to answer or take the fifth.
00:08:20.360 Because there's no privilege for that.
00:08:22.960 But you don't get to go, all right, Kurt, we're taking all the files in your office.
00:08:26.080 We're going to go through them.
00:08:27.380 We're going to have people who are known to be, you know, your political enemies and who
00:08:31.340 leak stuff, go through everything and decide if any of it might potentially be crime fraud.
00:08:37.960 I don't know.
00:08:38.440 Kurt, let me try to, I mean, you'll remember this, and I think many in the audience will.
00:08:44.520 John Gotti's attorney, Bruce Cutler, was ultimately disbarred because there was a hint that he knew
00:08:52.700 about crimes Gotti and the Gambinos were committing before they were committed.
00:08:55.920 He was disbarred.
00:08:57.100 The FBI never raided three locations and seized Bruce Cutler, a mob lawyer's records, when he was
00:09:05.360 seeing John Gotti acquitted time after time.
00:09:08.860 And we now know it was jury tampering.
00:09:10.660 And Cutler probably knew all about it, probably knew all about it.
00:09:14.760 This is over the friggin' Access Hollywood tape.
00:09:17.860 This is beyond insane.
00:09:20.380 And people know it, and that's why I wrote my article yesterday, which basically encouraged
00:09:26.960 Trump not to fire Comey, but to talk about him, and Mueller too.
00:09:31.340 And that's because people will understand.
00:09:35.100 You don't need a fancy law degree to understand.
00:09:37.080 When Mueller goes out and picks 13 Democrats, you know, in a country that elected Donald Trump,
00:09:42.180 he can't find one prosecutor, not one, not a single prosecutor or agent who gave a dime
00:09:48.200 to Donald Trump, but he manages to find all ones that go to Hillary.
00:09:51.240 OK, everybody knows the fix is in.
00:09:54.420 Look, I try to explain to people, and we'll go into Scooter Libby in a second.
00:09:57.980 Robert Mueller put four innocent people in prison in Boston, two died in jail.
00:10:03.920 The other two had their convictions overturned so he could protect now imprisoned filthy,
00:10:09.020 dirty FBI agent, John Connolly, and his chief CI, one of the most murderous gangsters in
00:10:14.540 history, Whitey Bulger.
00:10:16.120 And Bulger went on the lam for 17 years, from 94 to 2011.
00:10:20.640 Andrew Weissman, Andrew Weissman, his chief prosecutor, who's in love with Sally Yates,
00:10:26.560 who refused, of course, to carry out legal orders from the president, Andrew Weissman gave
00:10:32.140 the same cover, a lesser known case, to a really dirty FBI agent, Lynn DeVecchio,
00:10:38.900 Lynn Lee DeVecchio.
00:10:39.780 Now, DeVecchio lives down here in Florida, reached out to me a few years ago, wanted to
00:10:43.600 sit down with me because I excoriated him on air, wanted to sit down with me and have
00:10:47.360 dinner over in the Tampa area to tell his side of the story.
00:10:50.340 I reached out to now deceased, and most of the audience know him, you might know him,
00:10:54.820 Joe Coffey.
00:10:55.500 Whenever you watch a show about the mob, he was an old school New York detective,
00:10:58.420 Joe, he took down Gotti.
00:11:01.220 He was also one of the lead detectives on the Son of Sam case.
00:11:03.660 He was a legend in the NYPD.
00:11:05.400 He was a legend in the NYPD.
00:11:07.520 I got to know Joe, you know, when he was in his older years.
00:11:10.760 And a month before Joe passed away, this is probably 2015, 2016, Joe got very sick, and
00:11:17.540 I called him to see how he was doing, and we got to talking.
00:11:19.700 And a month before he passed away, and I consider this deathbed truth, because he knew, you know,
00:11:26.080 he didn't have long left.
00:11:26.860 I asked him about DeVecchio, because DeVecchio had called me a couple of weeks earlier, and
00:11:31.580 he said to me, back then, he said, that guy was filthy.
00:11:35.520 That guy was never a cop.
00:11:36.820 That guy is a wise guy, a gangster.
00:11:39.180 And he said, everybody in DOJ who protected him is as well.
00:11:43.020 Now, I didn't know at the time that it was Andrew Weissman, and who Weissman was protecting
00:11:48.420 was Lynn DeVecchio, and one of the most vicious mobsters in history, Colombo Capo, Greg Scarpa.
00:11:55.020 I mean, Scarpa was a killer.
00:11:57.620 That's how he came up and made his bones in the mob.
00:11:59.840 These are the two top guys, Mueller and Weissman, on this investigation, who had a history of
00:12:05.220 protecting murderous mobsters who were FBI CIs, and both agents.
00:12:10.920 Connolly went to prison.
00:12:12.320 DeVecchio was shamed out of law enforcement.
00:12:14.180 Disgraceful, Kurt.
00:12:17.020 Disgraceful.
00:12:18.180 Yeah, these guys are—look, the FBI and the Department of Justice have defecated on their
00:12:23.960 reputations.
00:12:24.920 The Ephraim Zimbalist Jr. FBI, the one I used to watch every single time.
00:12:29.260 I remember being a little kid watching my grandfather.
00:12:31.180 I loved that show.
00:12:31.780 I'd watch the reasons.
00:12:32.220 Yeah, I loved that show.
00:12:33.180 I was like, man, these guys are great.
00:12:34.740 Well, that's not who they are now.
00:12:36.940 The guys down in the—doing the actual job, most of them are okay.
00:12:42.600 Some of them are dirtbags, like you pointed out.
00:12:45.600 But, you know, this—you know, Robert Hansen, John Connolly, DeVecchio, all these guys,
00:12:50.900 it's just a continuous drip, drip, drip of failure, and it starts at the top.
00:12:56.540 Comey didn't do anything about it.
00:12:57.700 He was too busy peacocking around, you know, enjoying his Mr. Integrity reputation.
00:13:03.300 When he is the most corrupt, dirty scumbag there is.
00:13:07.420 He's just a swine ball.
00:13:09.060 And the president's absolutely right.
00:13:11.020 I spoke to Robin Gritz yesterday, the woman who McCabe forced out of the FBI that General
00:13:15.720 Flynn went to bat for.
00:13:17.620 Yeah.
00:13:17.980 And she filed complaints against McCabe.
00:13:19.660 And Robin speaks to me on the record pretty much every other day.
00:13:23.100 And she said, Comey was a useful idiot.
00:13:27.240 McCabe and his band of cronies ran the FBI, knew Comey was a useful idiot, and used him to
00:13:32.880 their benefit.
00:13:33.960 And I said to her, hey, Robert, do you mind if I reference that on air?
00:13:36.060 She said, absolutely not.
00:13:37.420 Scream it far and wide.
00:13:38.920 So she said, Comey was a useful idiot inside the FBI, did whatever McCabe told him to do,
00:13:43.440 did whatever Holder told him to do, whatever Lynch and Obama told him to do.
00:13:46.580 And he just kind of sat there like a big moron.
00:13:49.940 Okay, okay, okay.
00:13:51.700 Looming doofus.
00:13:52.660 Looming doofus, like a mope, you know.
00:13:56.160 And now we're seeing it.
00:13:57.880 I mean, he's sitting there with Stephanopoulos down.
00:14:00.380 To be serious for a second, one of the fundamental flaws, you know, we've got that trailer of
00:14:05.260 the interview Sunday night, and there's a fundamental flaw in one of Stephanopoulos'
00:14:08.660 questions when he says, I'll paraphrase him, do you think you should have brought Hillary
00:14:12.620 Clinton before a grand jury?
00:14:13.860 Well, it wasn't Comey's job to make that decision.
00:14:16.600 It was Comey's job to send the recommendation over to DOJ.
00:14:20.800 And so I feel like Stephanopoulos is setting this up.
00:14:23.800 We know what the answer would have been.
00:14:25.280 Any cop, the answer would have been, send it over to the prosecutors.
00:14:30.320 And you know, if it were you and me being prosecuted, you know what Comey's answer is.
00:14:33.980 We'd be in jail right now.
00:14:35.620 You and I would be sitting in federal prison right now.
00:14:37.420 Because these people, Mr. Integrity and his pack of guys with integrity, actively support
00:14:45.740 and engage in a dual-track legal system where some people get special treatment and other
00:14:52.080 people stop.
00:14:52.620 It's just a fact.
00:14:53.400 It is.
00:14:53.880 And it's profoundly dangerous to our country.
00:14:56.280 Well, you can see it.
00:14:57.660 He's already been slapped down by Chief of Staff General Kelly, who, look, people can disagree
00:15:03.660 with General Kelly's authoritarian style in the White House, a little heavy-handed, with
00:15:10.200 staffers, thank God, because it was a bit chaotic.
00:15:14.000 But General Kelly is an honorable man.
00:15:16.520 I believe every word he says.
00:15:18.660 I don't think he has a...
00:15:19.240 Well, you know, General Kelly doesn't have a single lie in the record.
00:15:22.460 Comey does.
00:15:23.060 Of course, he won't be prosecuted for it.
00:15:24.740 Right.
00:15:24.960 Because he's special.
00:15:25.940 I think General Kelly is an honorable man who's doing his job the right way.
00:15:29.240 And I think there's a respect between him and the president.
00:15:31.860 So Comey comes out and he says that, oh my God, General Kelly was basically inconsolable.
00:15:36.820 And he called Comey and he told him this is terrible.
00:15:39.300 Oh, he's calling him a wuss, too, huh?
00:15:41.440 Right.
00:15:41.900 And General Kelly...
00:15:42.840 General Kelly?
00:15:43.500 General Kelly's response was, that didn't happen.
00:15:46.440 The call was about a minute.
00:15:47.520 Comey called me.
00:15:48.700 I said, I don't know why you're fired.
00:15:49.880 Good luck.
00:15:50.500 And he hung up the phone.
00:15:52.700 Good luck.
00:15:53.100 Yeah.
00:15:53.520 So he's already...
00:15:54.380 General Kelly's already thrown Comey.
00:15:55.440 Yeah.
00:15:55.720 General Kelly was inconsolable.
00:15:57.900 Yeah.
00:15:58.160 Oh, he was...
00:15:58.780 That the looming doofus was getting shown the door.
00:16:00.820 He was devastated that Comey was fired.
00:16:02.860 Yeah.
00:16:03.360 The gold star dad who lost his Marine son in combat, I'm sure that Comey being fired was
00:16:08.440 top of mind.
00:16:09.160 Yeah.
00:16:09.240 Yeah.
00:16:09.360 And that freaking weighed on him.
00:16:11.520 Yes.
00:16:12.000 Yes.
00:16:12.600 He can't even sleep.
00:16:13.660 Looming doofus.
00:16:14.820 So I love what Trump did today, though.
00:16:17.300 I do, too.
00:16:17.980 He's pardoning Scooter Libby.
00:16:19.420 Now, what I...
00:16:19.820 Oh, good.
00:16:20.620 Thank God.
00:16:21.380 You know, the last few years...
00:16:24.280 The great thing about the Trump era is how it really reveals people.
00:16:27.560 And I...
00:16:28.560 When Bush left office, I had some beefs with him.
00:16:30.620 But I thought, you know, generally honorable guy, when he wouldn't attack Obama, he wouldn't
00:16:35.980 defend himself for our Republicans.
00:16:37.940 And he wouldn't attack Obama.
00:16:39.040 And that kind of annoyed me.
00:16:41.200 But I understood, well, you know, that's his version of honor, and he's trying to do it.
00:16:46.580 Well, when Trump gets...
00:16:48.020 When his fat brother got booted and humiliated...
00:16:51.640 Hey, he lost weight.
00:16:52.700 All this honor went away.
00:16:54.420 Kurt, he did the paleo diet, Jeb.
00:16:56.140 He lost weight.
00:16:57.060 I say that because if you lived in Florida, you'd understand the joke.
00:17:00.120 Jeb Bush's paleo diet was in the local media like every other week.
00:17:04.360 That's all he would talk about.
00:17:05.460 And he would actually do a PR campaign around his paleo diet because he was chubby, low-energy
00:17:10.520 Jeb.
00:17:10.900 Yeah.
00:17:11.100 That is a true story, by the way.
00:17:12.380 Yeah.
00:17:12.660 Fat him and Anna Navarra sitting around going, how mean is this polite?
00:17:16.100 They are like...
00:17:17.060 They're neighbors.
00:17:17.680 They both live down in Coral Gables.
00:17:19.040 I think she used to.
00:17:20.320 Or she was with the guy from the Biltmore.
00:17:22.400 Jeb lives like four blocks away from her boyfriend's office where she's frequently seen.
00:17:27.480 And three blocks away from a golden corral.
00:17:31.060 But, you know, when Bush suddenly discovered that it's okay to attack a president and the
00:17:36.920 people who voted for him, for Bush, who stood by him when he wouldn't defend himself like
00:17:42.160 me.
00:17:42.380 That's right.
00:17:43.440 But, you know, the thing that always grabbed me is I didn't understand.
00:17:46.260 You know, it was obvious Scooter Libby had been railroaded.
00:17:48.700 Yeah, he commuted it.
00:17:49.820 But he didn't pardon him.
00:17:50.880 And I thought that was always a little bit weak.
00:17:53.040 I thought there might be more at play.
00:17:55.020 I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
00:17:57.100 But no.
00:17:57.760 It's that Bush family deep sense.
00:18:00.280 For people who don't remember, Scooter Libby was then Vice President Dick Cheney's Chief
00:18:04.140 of Staff.
00:18:05.360 There's a popular false narrative out there that Scooter Libby leaked Valerie Plame's
00:18:11.360 name.
00:18:12.000 It wasn't Scooter Libby.
00:18:13.100 It was Richard Armitage.
00:18:14.480 Yeah, who was never prosecuted.
00:18:15.760 Who was never prosecuted.
00:18:16.560 Now, Valerie Plame was a mid-
00:18:18.060 Because he's in the club.
00:18:18.580 Yeah, she was a mid-level CIA analyst.
00:18:20.580 She wasn't a deep cover operative in country.
00:18:22.580 Oh, yeah.
00:18:22.600 No, she was James freaking Bond.
00:18:24.620 Oh, yeah.
00:18:24.920 Exactly.
00:18:25.480 She was super secret.
00:18:26.620 That's how you know she- because she cooperated with a movie about herself.
00:18:29.680 Exactly.
00:18:30.240 And I have, you know-
00:18:31.240 Because she's that secret.
00:18:32.380 I have a mutual friend of ours on the show all the time.
00:18:34.200 Scott Ulinger tells the whole world.
00:18:35.580 Oh, yeah.
00:18:36.200 I'm CIA.
00:18:37.020 I'm CIA.
00:18:37.520 One of my best friends that I grew up with is a very- was a very senior guy at CIA.
00:18:41.280 Moved to another agency now.
00:18:42.940 You know, when he went in to buy a house and buy a car, where do you work?
00:18:45.380 Central Intelligence Agency.
00:18:46.420 I mean, unless you're a deep cover operative embedded with Al-Qaeda, posing as one of them,
00:18:51.020 you can pretty much tell people where you work.
00:18:53.820 It's not, you know, a closely held national secret.
00:18:56.660 So no crime was really committed.
00:18:59.040 Scooter Libby was jammed up on the same bogus process crime of misstatements to federal investigators.
00:19:04.500 Which probably weren't even misstatements.
00:19:06.080 They probably weren't even misstatements, right?
00:19:07.360 But here's the thing.
00:19:08.680 This, to me, signals a shot across the bow, maybe an opening salvo.
00:19:12.520 Because by pardoning Scooter Libby, think about it.
00:19:16.720 Mueller was the FBI director at the time.
00:19:19.520 Comey was a senior DOJ official who ran the prosecution.
00:19:23.600 And Trump slaps the Bushes in the face for backing Hillary.
00:19:27.260 This- I think this also sends a message very quietly that Libby did exactly what General Flynn did.
00:19:33.300 That pardon is coming as well.
00:19:34.620 Yeah, and I don't think it's that quiet.
00:19:37.840 And, you know, far be it, you know, the president shouldn't talk about it anymore and he should do it.
00:19:44.440 But I think anybody- I can't imagine that Trump is going to show the lack of character George Bush did
00:19:52.680 and allow the people who are obviously being railroaded to end up with these bogus prosecutions continuing after he leaves office.
00:20:02.120 I imagine that- I imagine that he's- that Flynn's going to be pardoned.
00:20:08.160 Or-
00:20:08.340 In fact, his plea might be vacated by the judge.
00:20:11.940 Well, I'd like to see that first.
00:20:14.340 I'd let it play out.
00:20:15.820 But I would make it clear if the thing wasn't vacated, you know, if Andrew McCabe's not indicted within the next few months-
00:20:23.940 That's right, I'm pardoning Flynn.
00:20:24.940 And for fairness, I'm going to- I will pardon Michael Flynn.
00:20:29.360 Or if Andrew McCabe and James Comey, who both lied under oath, aren't prosecuted, Michael Flynn is going to be pardoned.
00:20:35.760 We're no longer going to have two systems of justice.
00:20:36.760 Yeah, we're not going to play the two-justice game.
00:20:39.120 That's right.
00:20:39.360 I'm going to use my power.
00:20:40.460 I will pardon Michael Flynn if those guys aren't- if I see that there's unequal justice.
00:20:47.620 And one indicator is what happens with Flynn and Comey, or with McCabe and Comey.
00:20:52.580 That is absolutely right.
00:20:53.100 And it's a message to Manafort.
00:20:54.380 Now, Manafort looks like a gangster.
00:20:56.460 Manafort-
00:20:56.740 I don't see him-
00:20:57.440 I don't see him rolling.
00:20:58.700 Nah, Manafort was a moron.
00:21:00.520 Manafort- but at the end of the day, Manafort's issues go back to financial crimes in 2006.
00:21:05.460 2006, it's unrelated.
00:21:07.620 I still- you know, he's probably dirty.
00:21:10.520 Like I said, he looks like a gangster.
00:21:11.800 But I admit, or I expect, he's not going to- you know, because Mueller doesn't care whether Manafort tells the truth or not.
00:21:20.640 You know, if Manafort comes in and goes, I'm willing to testify that President Trump told me, go out and get with the Russians and give them whatever information you need to.
00:21:29.840 Let's work with them to defeat Hillary.
00:21:31.800 Is that what you want to hear?
00:21:32.880 Because that's what I'll say.
00:21:33.760 You got to get rid of my- you know, these things.
00:21:36.280 I don't see Manafort do it.
00:21:37.420 Manafort's not going to do it because Manafort was only on the campaign for about 60 days.
00:21:41.520 You're right though.
00:21:41.900 He does look like a gangster.
00:21:42.960 Like his street name would be Pauly Cufflinks or something like that.
00:21:45.360 Yeah, Pauly Cufflinks.
00:21:46.400 He's got that look to him, yeah.
00:21:48.220 He really does.
00:21:49.840 He- but yeah, he was on the campaign.
00:21:51.860 I think Manafort was with the Trump campaign 56 days.
00:21:55.160 He wasn't even around.
00:21:56.060 He was wrangling delegates.
00:21:57.500 Look, it doesn't matter if he actually knows anything.
00:21:59.800 Mueller's perfect- would be perfectly happy to use perjured information.
00:22:04.400 No, he- perfectly happy.
00:22:05.300 I believe that.
00:22:06.280 I believe- no doubt.
00:22:07.200 And I believe Mueller and Weissman would contort statements to make them fit into a criminal context.
00:22:13.300 Oh, I-
00:22:14.020 Terrible.
00:22:14.200 No doubt they would manufacture evidence.
00:22:16.340 None.
00:22:16.900 So you-
00:22:17.320 Am I crazy?
00:22:18.620 Ask Ted Stevens.
00:22:19.400 Ask Cliven Bundy.
00:22:20.300 That's right.
00:22:20.920 Ask the 32 guys on death row because FBI agents came in from the lab and testified falsely about lab findings.
00:22:29.360 Ask them if the FBI would frame someone.
00:22:32.220 You are so good, Slicker.
00:22:33.800 I'm just pointing out what's been reported in open media.
00:22:36.960 You are so good because I wanted to segue into your most recent town hall piece and you just did it for me.
00:22:41.860 Give us the overall theme of the piece.
00:22:43.880 It's basically that Trump needs to start going on offense and fighting back because of those cases you just mentioned,
00:22:49.820 where the government has fabricated information that led to wrongful convictions that were subsequently overturned.
00:22:56.020 Look, the simple fact is the president is under assault in a legal coup attempting to overturn the results of the election.
00:23:05.920 And you can tell- and he needs to go to the people and explain why it's true.
00:23:09.960 Talk about Mueller and his history.
00:23:11.560 We've done it here.
00:23:12.740 Talk about Mueller and his team.
00:23:13.980 We've done that, too.
00:23:14.940 Talk about the track record of the FBI in manufacturing prosecutions like Ted Stevens, like Cliven Bundy, against people they politically oppose.
00:23:25.100 Go out there and take it to the people.
00:23:26.700 And we're seeing the- he's doing that.
00:23:28.480 And we're seeing the results.
00:23:29.840 The polls are showing that people do not buy the Mueller thing.
00:23:32.760 This is a political process.
00:23:35.620 It is all designed to support impeachment, to get enough squishy Republicans in the Senate to go along with a house that they-
00:23:45.760 That's right.
00:23:46.120 Assuming the Democrats take the house, which I'm not sure they will do.
00:23:49.940 I'm not sure either.
00:23:50.720 You know, I've had conversations about this with a couple of guys we both know who hate their names being mentioned on air.
00:23:58.120 One was a senior person with the Trump campaign.
00:24:01.120 Another is a very well-known communications person who works quite a bit with the White House.
00:24:05.580 I had dinner with them a couple of weeks ago down here in South Florida.
00:24:09.600 The former administration guy says, or the campaign guy, we're definitely losing the house.
00:24:13.900 The other guy was 50-50.
00:24:15.160 I don't think we're losing the house, especially if Trump goes on offense.
00:24:18.940 If he doesn't and he allows Mueller to drop an opposition research report, which is all this is about, you're 100% right, then we're in jeopardy.
00:24:25.960 But if he goes on the offense-
00:24:27.340 See, I think Trump should appoint his own special counsel today to investigate Mueller and Comey and McCain.
00:24:34.320 Don't rely on the OIG.
00:24:35.980 Appoint his own guy and have that guy drop, or woman.
00:24:38.340 I'd love to see Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, and have them drop the report like the third week of October, which indicts Democrats, both literally and figuratively.
00:24:48.040 Well, remember, there are a lot of Republicans who are terrified about this, too.
00:24:51.440 Oh, they don't want it to come out.
00:24:52.660 A lot of dirty hands trying to track Trump.
00:24:55.920 Oh, yeah.
00:24:56.260 And I said that yesterday on Twitter.
00:24:57.800 I think you retweeted it.
00:24:58.640 I said that exactly that, that this bill being introduced in Congress, this bipartisan bill to protect the special counsel, is being introduced because the never-Trump establishment Republicans don't want it revealed that they were complicit in pushing the dossier and trying to unseat this president.
00:25:14.480 Oh, yeah.
00:25:15.340 Absolutely.
00:25:16.000 Oh, McCain.
00:25:17.080 Mario.
00:25:17.980 Marco Rubio.
00:25:19.640 Foamy.
00:25:20.680 Oh, yeah.
00:25:21.280 Oh, yeah.
00:25:22.200 Jeff Flake.
00:25:23.060 The list goes on.
00:25:23.740 Even Evan McMullin popped out of his little groundhog hole the other day.
00:25:27.620 Oh, my God.
00:25:27.740 Yeah, he's working with Romney in Utah.
00:25:31.780 Really?
00:25:32.500 Any big weekend plans there, Schlichter?
00:25:36.060 More work on my third novel.
00:25:38.900 Get that done.
00:25:40.220 Hopefully in a couple months.
00:25:41.480 I thought we could go ride horses on the beach, go to a ball game, spray mustard and ketchup on each other.
00:25:45.780 Like, you know, one of those really fun days.
00:25:51.140 Lots of hugging.
00:25:52.020 A lot of hugging, go skiing, do like a ski jump, then like join a parade.
00:25:56.900 Oh, there's so many things.
00:25:58.060 It's like Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
00:25:59.600 You're a joy killer.
00:26:00.760 That's all you are.
00:26:01.640 You're my weekend joy killer.
00:26:03.380 As always, Kurt Schlichter.
00:26:05.720 Thank you very much.
00:26:06.500 Very informative, by the way.
00:26:08.380 And I don't say it enough.
00:26:09.600 Thank you for your nearly three decades of service.
00:26:12.660 That was a colonel.
00:26:13.660 I didn't do anything.
00:26:14.680 You did.
00:26:15.260 You did.
00:26:15.620 Don't underplay it.
00:26:16.440 Thanks, Kurt.
00:26:16.880 Have a great weekend.
00:26:17.940 All right.
00:26:18.280 All right.
00:26:22.020 Another police officer killed.
00:26:31.700 I really hate bringing you these stories, but this one is incredibly necessary because of the details surrounding his killer.
00:26:38.500 The officer's name was Sean Gannon from the Yarmouth, Massachusetts Police Department.
00:26:43.280 He was a canine officer.
00:26:44.420 His canine partner was also shot in the face and neck.
00:26:48.280 Officer Gannon tragically passed away.
00:26:50.580 His canine partner is going to surgery today.
00:26:53.560 The murderer is a guy, and I want to get this name correct, Thomas Lantanowich.
00:26:57.180 And this guy's criminal history tells any logical, rational person that he should have been locked in a cage for the rest of his life.
00:27:05.720 But no, the liberal criminal justice system in a state like Massachusetts had him out on the streets, a predator, able to kill a police officer.
00:27:14.020 Joining me now is someone you've met on the show before, my very good friend, Rob O'Donnell.
00:27:17.920 Rob spent a career of well over 20 years at the New York City Police Department, homicide detective in Queens, truly one of the most talented investigators I know.
00:27:25.480 And behind the scenes helps me quite a bit with content on stories for the show.
00:27:31.580 When Rob digs in, he does not miss a detail.
00:27:34.460 So I wanted to bring him on because it's so critically important that we don't miss anything with regards to this story.
00:27:40.420 When you hear this, you're going to realize just how bad it is.
00:27:44.140 Rob, thanks for being here.
00:27:45.760 So as I mentioned, Officer Gannon, who was killed, and his canine partner were part of a multi-agency task force.
00:27:52.320 Explain what the task force was doing and how they encountered Lantanowich.
00:27:56.460 Well, the area they were is in the beginning of the horn of Cape Cod.
00:28:00.780 It's Barnstable, Massachusetts.
00:28:02.940 Officer Gannon was a member of the Yardsmouth Police Department and his canine Nero.
00:28:08.020 He was part of a multi-agency warrant apprehension team that was out that day to apprehend people with active warrants.
00:28:15.680 Now, were they looking specifically for this Thomas Lantanowich?
00:28:18.860 Yes, they were.
00:28:19.520 They were.
00:28:19.820 So what happened when they encountered him?
00:28:21.800 Did he just open fire?
00:28:23.320 Was it a chase?
00:28:25.000 How did the gunfire start?
00:28:26.600 It appears he fled to the attic because Officer Sean Gannon was shot while in pursuit of the subject up into the attic.
00:28:33.000 And his canine Nero was also shot head on again in the head and then neck.
00:28:37.140 Wow.
00:28:37.500 I mean, absolutely tragic.
00:28:39.020 And people need to understand this is what the 600 and some odd thousand law enforcement officers who work in this country, close to 700,000, are doing right now.
00:28:46.560 And as Rob and I bring you the show, we used to work in that world, as we bring you the show, as you're watching the show, they're out there doing this every single minute of every single day.
00:28:55.500 And every door they kick could be their last.
00:28:58.260 And people need to understand that when they bash law enforcement.
00:29:01.560 It is a thankless, underpaid, very, very dangerous job.
00:29:05.880 Now, Rob, the most infuriating part of this story is not that a good cop is dead, not that his canine partner is shot and might not make it.
00:29:13.260 The tragedy, the second tragedy in this story is the way the criminal justice system treated this savage murderer and gave him pass upon pass upon pass.
00:29:24.180 Would you find out about his background?
00:29:25.300 Absolutely, John.
00:29:27.740 I'm pissed off.
00:29:29.100 Sean Gannon would be alive.
00:29:30.660 32 years old, 10 years on the job, would be alive today if judges and prosecutors did their job with the laws that are on the books that they have to work with.
00:29:38.180 This savage was arrested 111 times, mostly felony, mostly violent felonies.
00:29:43.240 111 times, 111 arrests, many of them felonies.
00:29:49.100 Rob, when we were in the academy, they would teach us two felonies.
00:29:52.220 You're probably in jail for the rest of your life.
00:29:53.680 What the hell happened?
00:29:55.600 What happened to the three-strike rule?
00:29:57.420 You're out.
00:29:59.200 111 arrests.
00:30:00.200 Keep going.
00:30:00.820 This is just too important.
00:30:01.980 Keep going.
00:30:03.180 And it's not just the amount of the arrests.
00:30:04.940 It's the type of the arrests.
00:30:06.320 This was a violent, gun-toting, narcotic trafficking savage.
00:30:12.080 Oh, yeah.
00:30:12.460 Who in the past has put guns to people he lived with's head.
00:30:15.980 He stabbed people in the background.
00:30:17.460 For instance, and the most egregious, arrest and court laws in Massachusetts are not public documents, so it's hard to get a grasp on things.
00:30:27.240 But the bits and pieces that I could get together from media reports and contacts up there, a little before January of 2010, this savage was arrested for 27 counts of possession of a firearm.
00:30:38.360 One count of trafficking heroin, 14 grams.
00:30:42.080 One count of assault with a weapon where he placed a handgun to a woman he lives with's head and threatened her.
00:30:47.740 And seven counts of receiving stolen property.
00:30:50.760 And he was released on $35,000, bam.
00:30:54.140 What?
00:30:55.460 That's correct.
00:30:55.960 Do we have a name of the judge who did that?
00:30:58.520 I don't have the district court judge because that was the district court judge.
00:31:01.700 Okay.
00:31:02.100 On January 15th, he did go before a grand jury and was indicted.
00:31:05.820 Rob, let's you and I, after the show, dig into that judge's name because I want to get that judge's name and photo out there.
00:31:12.980 Superior court.
00:31:13.980 Yeah.
00:31:14.660 Name.
00:31:15.420 And it's just as egregious.
00:31:16.980 This is just step after step of judicial misconduct, judicial negligence.
00:31:22.520 This officer would be alive if they did their job.
00:31:25.260 Now, okay, so this guy was arrested 111 times, 27 counts of weapons possession, heroin dealing, threatening, menacing his girlfriend with a firearm, putting it to her head.
00:31:35.740 But that's not all.
00:31:36.920 His criminal record goes far beyond that.
00:31:39.420 Well, when he was, let's get more into the judicial part.
00:31:42.180 In January 15th, when he's indicted by the grand jury, his lawyer asks for the same $35,000 bail that he was out on.
00:31:48.860 The judge wants $100,000 bail.
00:31:50.960 The judge at this point at the superior court hearing the grand jury, Gary Nickerson was that judge's name.
00:31:58.140 Superior court judge in Massachusetts.
00:31:59.620 Reduces it to $50,000 bail if he takes a drug test, which he failed, hitting positive for THC.
00:32:08.600 What the hell is going on?
00:32:10.340 But because he wasn't aware of his trafficking, they released him.
00:32:12.360 Why was bail even considered?
00:32:14.300 I mean, that's a rhetorical question.
00:32:16.040 What in the world is going on?
00:32:17.600 I mean, if this doesn't, if this case doesn't demand a remand, a remand without bail, what the hell case does?
00:32:28.580 Why he was in the original district court and then again, when the grand jury indicts him saying, yes, there's enough evidence to bring this 27 counts of firearms?
00:32:38.180 He puts a gun to his, per girl he lives with's head?
00:32:41.780 I don't even have words for this.
00:32:43.460 I mean, this is, you're right.
00:32:44.480 I mean, the blood of this police officer and of his canine partner, and I, canine partners are every bit as much a partner as a human partner.
00:32:51.940 They face down the same dangers and they have saved many, many lives.
00:32:57.360 Dogs have alerted law enforcement officers and our military to danger, often long before a human partner can.
00:33:04.120 And they've saved many, many lives.
00:33:05.400 This is just one of the most egregious cases I've ever heard.
00:33:10.260 Now, how far back does this guy's criminal record go?
00:33:13.620 Well, the earliest arrest that I could find record of was 2010.
00:33:17.360 There's another record in 2016 where he followed behind a vehicle, opened up the passenger door, and stabbed the passenger several times, which he was arrested for, and released on bail again.
00:33:30.040 How old is this guy?
00:33:31.880 Right now, he's 28.
00:33:33.200 He's 28, so 2010, eight years.
00:33:35.560 So he started his criminal career that we can find on the record at 20.
00:33:39.400 He probably had a long juvenile career.
00:33:41.620 This guy is, he was always going to wind up a killer.
00:33:45.160 And the judges just put him through.
00:33:47.280 They just put him through.
00:33:48.180 He was well known to all the local departments up there and the community.
00:33:52.940 Not only are they outraged, but the community itself.
00:33:58.920 Judges, prosecutors keep releasing individuals with this type of record into the public to walk amongst our children, to walk amongst our parents.
00:34:06.680 This is just ridiculous.
00:34:07.720 This is a 32-year-old hero police officer who spent 10 years, his entire adult life, serving that community up there.
00:34:13.820 And he was gunned down by a savage who the court systems just let walk time and time again.
00:34:18.380 You know what's infuriating to me?
00:34:20.280 These guys were a couple of years apart.
00:34:23.160 So while Officer Gannon was out there living his life the right way, serving the community, protecting people, Lantano, which is out there stabbing, dealing heroin, murdering.
00:34:34.480 Now, I'm just an all-around scumbag, low-life, skell-savage.
00:34:39.280 And the criminal justice system, at the end of the day, treated the killer better than the cop.
00:34:43.980 They treated the killer better than the cop by allowing him to walk around, made a mockery of the criminal justice system, put no fear in this guy whatsoever.
00:34:52.540 Now, are we seeing any blowback on this judge from law enforcement up in the area?
00:34:56.860 Is there any indication that there's going to be a protest against this guy or any politicians calling this judge out?
00:35:02.940 Or is he just getting a pass on it? Is it business as usual?
00:35:06.240 Not that I'm seeing yet.
00:35:07.280 Just the fact that this officer was gunned down yesterday.
00:35:10.060 Again, I was just able to dig into some of the background because the records in the state and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts are hard to get.
00:35:16.820 He is named now, Judge Gary Nickerson, the Superior Court Judge of Massachusetts.
00:35:21.680 He's got a lot of experience.
00:35:22.400 I'm going to make a note of that.
00:35:23.500 No, no, Rob, go ahead. I'm just making a note of that.
00:35:26.620 This is just beyond bad.
00:35:29.400 And I'm wondering if we shouldn't draw a little media attention to Judge Nickerson and maybe go back through his performance on the bench and see how many other savages he's given bail to who are out there.
00:35:41.260 I mean, families are at risk.
00:35:43.320 Now, why was there a warrant on Lantanowicz?
00:35:47.040 Did he abscond? Did he not show up for a hearing?
00:35:48.760 What was the nature of the warrant that was open on him?
00:35:50.600 The only thing the media is saying at this time and what I can get from local authorities is he had pending charges.
00:35:57.840 So even while he was out on bail, he was committing more crime.
00:36:01.840 He was committing more crime.
00:36:03.300 And you know what bothers me?
00:36:04.700 They'd have brought this guy in on these additional charges.
00:36:07.500 And the same liberal moron judges would have probably increased his bail by $5,000 or $10,000 and sent him right back out as if he taking a drug test, which he failed, as you note, would mean anything to somebody who stabs someone multiple times.
00:36:22.420 I mean, I don't even know where to begin with this story, except to be absolutely infuriated, Rob, because it's going to happen again.
00:36:29.100 This is going to happen again.
00:36:31.080 There are going to be more innocent people killed, more cops killed.
00:36:34.180 People are going to suffer because these judges refuse to do their jobs.
00:36:39.880 Because they sit in their bench in a secured environment and make decisions that are life and death situations that they don't have to deal with.
00:36:47.120 I have to tell you, rarely do things blow my mind.
00:36:51.980 111 arrests.
00:36:53.480 I don't care if three of them were felonies.
00:36:55.840 Like, you know, three strikes, you're out.
00:36:57.840 But I have to guess that dozens of those 111 were felonies.
00:37:00.900 Now, 27 counts of possession of a firearm.
00:37:04.820 Putting a firearm to someone you lives with's head.
00:37:07.700 Stabbing someone, pulling someone out of their car and stabbing them in 2016.
00:37:11.540 So literally, literally about three dozen that we know of, that we know of, three dozen of the charges this guy has faced in his life were not just felonies, but violent felonies.
00:37:22.800 And heroin dealing with the overdose rates we have in this nation.
00:37:25.340 I put heroin dealing now up there in the category of violent felony.
00:37:29.460 Correct.
00:37:29.840 I know why it's such a problem because of judges like this.
00:37:33.440 Right.
00:37:33.980 Right.
00:37:34.320 I mean, Rob, this should infuriate.
00:37:36.320 This should infuriate everybody.
00:37:39.040 Every American.
00:37:39.800 But it should infuriate people around the world.
00:37:42.360 What do we do?
00:37:43.300 What do we do?
00:37:43.840 You spent a lot of years in the criminal justice system.
00:37:46.160 I did.
00:37:47.060 You know, we've seen from the law enforcement side how bad judges can be.
00:37:52.620 We've seen these judges, especially the really liberal ones in New York City, find it funny when they release a violent criminal and the prosecutor's frustrated and the family's crying of the victim.
00:38:02.040 And these judges were almost hostile to the victims.
00:38:04.800 You've seen that because I know I've seen it.
00:38:06.460 I know you've seen that.
00:38:07.900 What do we do?
00:38:08.820 What do we do here?
00:38:09.860 Do we put pressure on the politicians?
00:38:11.380 I think that's a step.
00:38:12.800 Do we shine a light on the judge?
00:38:14.020 But I don't, does it even matter in a town like this where these judges are politically connected, probably to the Massachusetts Democratic machine?
00:38:22.160 I feel like this judge will be able to continue to do this unless there's a very bright spotlight on him.
00:38:28.100 You know what's sad, John, is this this is right in the beginning of the Cape Cod area.
00:38:32.220 If this this savage would have killed a tourist, it would be on the front page of every newspaper in the world.
00:38:37.620 It would be on the news story of everything.
00:38:39.480 But because it was a cop doing his job, taking a bad guy in for the hundred and eleventh time.
00:38:45.840 You know, it's just a part of the job, right?
00:38:48.280 Right.
00:38:48.720 You're right.
00:38:48.940 These judges can be held accountable on a judicial level, on a licensing level.
00:38:52.880 If they can be removed by the governor, they should be removed.
00:38:55.440 They need to be held to the judicial conduct standards that they swore to uphold.
00:39:00.840 I mean, if if if a law enforcement agency had dropped the ball this many times, the FBI has.
00:39:07.020 And we are criticizing the FBI every minute of every day.
00:39:12.600 We've got to do the same to judges like this.
00:39:14.700 We have got to start shining the light on these judges, publicly shaming them, putting their faces up there and letting the world know the blood of these innocents are on their hands.
00:39:22.780 They make these decisions with immunity and without a care.
00:39:27.800 They need to be made to care.
00:39:29.500 Yeah.
00:39:29.620 You know what?
00:39:30.200 Yep.
00:39:30.620 These judges have bloods on their hands.
00:39:32.080 I'm a little sick of the phrase judicial discretion, Rob.
00:39:34.640 I really am.
00:39:35.740 Thank you so much for bringing this information to me.
00:39:39.280 We're going to we're going to follow up on this.
00:39:40.820 I think you and I need to dig into this judge a little bit.
00:39:42.580 We need to dig into the initial judge who gave him the thirty five thousand dollar bond.
00:39:46.360 And I'm going to bring you back on next week and we'll report those updates.
00:39:49.980 Sounds good, John.
00:39:50.920 Thanks very much, Rob.
00:39:51.600 Take care.
00:39:52.780 We'll be right back.