Rebel News Podcast - Off The Cuff Declassified - John Cardillo - April 26⧸2018

00:00:00.000 Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, it's been a deadly two weeks for police officers in the U.S.

00:00:05.320 Retired NYPD detective Rob O'Donnell joins me to discuss.

00:00:09.540 Kanye West doubles down his support for President Trump on Twitter, and he's joined by an unlikely ally.

00:00:18.220 Rudy Giuliani tells Robert Mueller that the president is extremely opposed to a sit-down interview.

00:00:24.960 That's a great idea.

00:00:25.720 And a Manhattan judge in New York City rules that bars and restaurants can throw out Trump supporters.

00:00:32.740 You might be surprised by what I think about this judge's ruling.

00:00:42.620 Tragic week for police in the United States as two officers in Dallas are shot and a sheriff's deputy in Somerset County, Maine, Eugene Cole, is murdered.

00:00:53.640 The suspect, John Williams, was out on bail for a firearms offense.

00:00:59.080 Our good friend Rob O'Donnell, retired New York City detective, has been doing a lot of research on this story.

00:01:05.000 He's put out a very comprehensive thread on Twitter.

00:01:08.240 Rob, what do we know about this?

00:01:09.720 Because I was so infuriated with the initial details.

00:01:13.180 The killer, the savage killer of Deputy Cole, John Williams, was out on bail from a firearms offense in 2018.

00:01:23.220 And as far as I understand it, the research you've done, the judge reduced the bail from $10,000 to $5,000 for that offense.

00:01:30.460 He should have been sitting in a cell, not walking around to kill Deputy Cole.

00:01:34.040 Absolutely.

00:01:36.540 That's another tragic day.

00:01:38.340 Seven officers were killed in six days.

00:01:41.860 Absolutely, absolutely unbelievable. 0.82

00:01:44.740 And for the New England area, this is another career criminal that should have been incarcerated, released by liberal judges on pathetic bail to murder another New England police officer.

00:01:56.360 Two New England police officers would be alive if the judges stuck to the letter of the law and protected the public.

00:02:02.480 Now, he was arrested for firearms-related charges.

00:02:06.400 This guy, John Williams, who is a suspect in the murder of Deputy Cole, not even a month ago, just a little over a month ago, March 22nd, by the Massachusetts State Police.

00:02:17.860 He's released on bail, presumably in Massachusetts, correct?

00:02:22.720 Yes. 0.94

00:02:23.380 So another Massachusetts judge is releasing violent, violent criminals out on bail to go kill police and the public.

00:02:31.480 I just—it's almost at this point, you know, why even bother? 0.84

00:02:37.400 Why should cops even put themselves in the line of fire if these liberal judges are just going to let the savages back out onto the street? 1.00

00:02:44.200 This subject, Williams, was due in court the day he murdered Deputy Cole.

00:02:48.400 What would have been the problem to hold him for those 30 days?

00:02:54.740 Deputy Cole would be alive if he was held on a firearms charge.

00:02:58.360 He's a prior convicted felon from 2006 for burglary.

00:03:02.820 He was arrested with a firearm by Massachusetts State Police.

00:03:06.000 Two firearms loaded, magazines, high-capacity magazines on the Maryland law—Massachusetts law.

00:03:11.940 And he was arrested and released within seven days.

00:03:15.680 See, Rob, but this—doesn't this go to the heart?

00:03:18.400 And I want to get into Deputy Cole in a moment, his history.

00:03:20.920 He was a bit older of a deputy, 62 years old.

00:03:23.860 But doesn't this really strike at the heart of liberals' arguments?

00:03:27.480 Gun control, gun control, gun control.

00:03:29.400 But then their liberal judges just release the most murderous, the most violent, the most dangerous.

00:03:35.480 Here, from your tweet, your tweet stream is better than any article I've read on this.

00:03:39.340 Upon his arrest, the Essex County—Williams' arrest for the gun charge, marked 22nd—

00:03:44.220 upon his arrest, the Essex County Massachusetts Assistant District Attorney requested $10,000 bail,

00:03:51.140 which to me is far too low.

00:03:52.560 That was reduced to $7,500 by Judge Michael Patton, then later reduced to $5,000.

00:04:00.900 He was released on March 31st to appear at the hearing the day he killed Deputy Cole yesterday.

00:04:08.340 I mean, everything about this is wrong.

00:04:10.760 Do we know anything about this Judge Michael Patton before we get into Deputy Cole?

00:04:15.000 Sure.

00:04:15.280 The judge has a history of short-changing bail, especially when it comes to law enforcement cases.

00:04:24.260 He was appointed by Governor Deval Patrick, who we all know—

00:04:27.880 Very liberal guy, friend of Obama, right?

00:04:30.440 Sure, appointed by Bill Clinton back when he was a DA.

00:04:34.940 He was previously an Essex County ADA, so he should know better.

00:04:38.480 He's dealt with these cases.

00:04:39.860 Right.

00:04:40.140 He knows of violent felons when he sees them and when he deals with them.

00:04:43.000 In August 11th of May of 2015, a man assaulted seven Revere police officers.

00:04:50.620 Wait, I'm looking at your tweet stream.

00:04:52.380 So was it 2017 or 2015?

00:04:54.360 You have 2017.

00:04:54.760 2015.

00:04:55.400 August 11th, 2015.

00:04:56.860 Okay, so there's a typo on the Twitter.

00:04:58.480 So August 11th, 2015, there's a suspect—go ahead, I'm sorry.

00:05:02.000 He assaulted seven people.

00:05:03.520 A suspect assaulted seven Revere police officers sending two to the hospital with serious injuries.

00:05:09.560 Right.

00:05:10.200 That's seven.

00:05:10.820 That's an entire police department in rural America.

00:05:13.340 That's an entire shift anywhere else.

00:05:15.580 That's an entire shift.

00:05:16.540 Exactly right.

00:05:17.180 That's an entire shift.

00:05:18.020 Seven cops is an entire shift in a place like Fort Lauderdale.

00:05:22.520 Not in a small city.

00:05:23.640 In an area like Fort Lauderdale, you might have seven cops on patrol at any given time.

00:05:28.340 Yeah.

00:05:28.980 And the ADA requested $50,000 bail.

00:05:32.320 Right.

00:05:32.540 This judge, Patton, only reduced it to $25,000 bail, and he was released.

00:05:38.980 That's $3,500 a cop.

00:05:41.300 I mean, that is so disgraceful.

00:05:43.720 It's beyond words.

00:05:46.000 It truly is.

00:05:47.240 Here's a pattern and practice of, in the end, putting the public at risk.

00:05:53.400 You know, we're highlighting it, and the nation will forget about it shortly, because police officers are dying.

00:06:00.420 But by putting these people out on the streets, if they will murder a police officer at the drop of a dime, where do we think the average citizen, the average tourist in the New England area stands when they're confronted by these savages?

00:06:11.060 Rob, I've always said this.

00:06:13.220 If somebody is willing to fight with, do that, to kill a police officer armed and trained with a radio to call backup, my God, what are they going to do to that single mother on the bus stop at 6.30 on a dark morning going to work?

00:06:28.420 It is just, this is so infuriating.

00:06:32.640 Maybe more infuriating than you and I, through the lens of experience, but I think infuriating to every American.

00:06:37.980 So, what do we know about Corporal Eugene Cole?

00:06:41.240 He was 62 years old, an older guy.

00:06:43.960 He's been, I think you told me, on the job 15 years.

00:06:47.100 13 years.

00:06:47.920 13 years.

00:06:48.660 So, he started at 49 years old.

00:06:50.740 He started when most of us had been out of the game for a while, had retired for a little bit.

00:06:56.800 Yeah, correct.

00:06:57.360 I mean, he started his career in law enforcement when most of us are ending it.

00:07:01.940 From what I'm understanding, his son is a deputy sheriff in the area up there as well.

00:07:05.860 Yeah, Officer Down Memorial Page, which is a great resource for this sort of thing, says he is survived by his son, who is also a deputy with the same agency.

00:07:15.460 My God, how tragic if his son had to respond and see his father shot dead. 0.83

00:07:20.880 Ridiculous. 0.98

00:07:21.320 And the whole situation, the facts in this case, where there was some sort of confrontation at 1.45 a.m. in the morning, where this animal murdered Deputy Cole, stole his police car and went to a convenience store gas station and robbed it. 0.95

00:07:38.860 And he's still on the run today.

00:07:42.220 This is, sorry, I'm reading, I'm on OMDB right now, ODMP, Officer Down Memorial Page.

00:07:48.740 And like you say, we've lost many police officers.

00:07:54.880 Yarmouth Police Department, Sean Gannon, Sergeant Noel Ramirez and Sheriff Taylor Lindsay, Gilchrist County, Florida, rural area.

00:08:03.620 We didn't even get a chance to talk about that one.

00:08:05.500 Assassinated while they ate lunch.

00:08:08.520 Just heartbreaking.

00:08:10.740 And we also lost another police officer yesterday, Rogelio Santander, Dallas, Texas.

00:08:15.880 And he was, now, was Officer Santander one of the two Dallas police officers shot who then passed of his injuries, correct?

00:08:24.760 Yes.

00:08:25.400 And the other one's still in critical condition.

00:08:27.420 This is absolutely.

00:08:29.160 And so let's talk about Officer Santander a little bit.

00:08:32.320 The information here, 27 years old, three years, looks like three years on the job.

00:08:39.920 Says it was at a Home Depot store, a robbery.

00:08:43.740 Do we have any details on that suspect?

00:08:45.880 There's mixed messages.

00:08:48.360 It looks like an off-duty or school or the store lost prevention called police for a suspicious or suspect.

00:08:56.140 I've heard two different accounts where he was recognized by an off-duty police officer for wanted for a prior felony.

00:09:03.260 And then there's another one where the school, the store resource officer got involved with it.

00:09:08.720 But the two police officers from the Dallas area responded and the altercation occurred where both Dallas police officers were shot in the head.

00:09:17.580 Yeah, I'll read you what ODMP says.

00:09:20.940 It says, police officer Rogelio Santander succumbed to a gunshot wound sustained the previous day while he and two other officers attempted to arrest a shoplifting suspect at a Home Depot store.

00:09:31.800 An off-duty officer working overtime at the store and the end of the store's loss prevention officer detained the suspect who attempted to shoplift during the investigation.

00:09:40.320 It was determined the man had an outstanding felony warrant.

00:09:43.800 They requested additional units.

00:09:45.980 Officer Santander and then another officer arrived at the store and remained with the subject in the loss prevention office.

00:09:51.640 As the off-duty officer confirmed the warrant, as they attempted to place him in handcuffs, he drew a handgun from his pocket, got both officers and the loss prevention officer.

00:10:02.100 He fled the scene, but was later located.

00:10:04.040 We know he was arrested the following day.

00:10:07.080 I just, you know, I don't want to, why didn't they toss this guy?

00:10:11.720 Why did they, when they had him in the loss prevention office for the shoplifting, they, somebody didn't search this.

00:10:18.040 And it just goes to show when the public, you know, screams, why are you searching that individual?

00:10:25.020 He was only shoplifting.

00:10:26.240 He's just a shoplifter.

00:10:27.800 Exactly. 1.00

00:10:27.940 No, he's a murderer. 0.99

00:10:29.340 That's right. 0.96

00:10:30.140 That is, that is absolutely right. 1.00

00:10:31.360 He's a murderer. 0.90

00:10:32.380 Felony warrant. 0.97

00:10:33.440 But this is, this is, you nailed it, Rob.

00:10:36.680 Back when we were on the job, back before people had cell phone cameras in your face and back before the Black Lives Matter movement, 0.81

00:10:43.220 do you know of any cop that would have second guessed themselves and the minute they found out somebody had a felony warrant and not had them on the wall searching them?

00:10:52.580 Absolutely.

00:10:53.360 Absolutely.

00:10:53.940 I mean, that's a must arrest.

00:10:55.160 You've got a felony warrant.

00:10:56.340 It's a must arrest.

00:10:57.400 You've got probable cause not just to pat down and frisk.

00:11:00.180 You've now got probable cause to search.

00:11:02.200 But you're right.

00:11:02.840 It's the, it's the day in and day out vilification of police by the left that's getting them killed.

00:11:09.720 This, this is the fruits of eight years of, of denouncing the police, of eight years of making us the boogeyman, making us the bad, making us the racist, making us the Nazis.

00:11:22.060 The police serve and protect every individual, every community in this nation.

00:11:27.720 They have, they always will.

00:11:29.700 It's all lives.

00:11:31.040 They always mattered.

00:11:32.520 It's just the time now that we start focusing on that.

00:11:35.500 You know, I say that on the show, every single time I cover a law enforcement topic, which is pretty often, almost daily, that I've never sat in a patrol car, got a priority call, go racing their lights and sirens and asked the race of the victim or the religion of the victim or the sexual orientation of the victim or the political affiliation of the victim.

00:12:00.480 Have you, has anyone you, you've ever known, have you ever heard that happen?

00:12:04.960 I know you haven't, you know I haven't, yet the left makes it seem as if policing is selective based on race.

00:12:13.260 No, the race of the offender is a necessary element for description and location.

00:12:19.280 I've never heard of a cop anywhere who ever said, what's the race of the victim? 0.93

00:12:23.260 Oh, they're a black homosexual or I turn the lights and sirens off, let's slow down. 1.00

00:12:27.040 It's never happened in the history of policing. 1.00

00:12:28.980 Absolutely. It's, it's another false narrative that we've fallen into over time.

00:12:35.440 And this is, this is a historic tactic of the left.

00:12:39.540 I mean, look back, you know, when the Irish immigrated, they made them look like angry leprechauns because they were the boogeyman. 1.00

00:12:44.640 You know, look at what they did with the, with slavery, you know, mocking.

00:12:49.380 When the Italians came over, when the Jews came over, every group was, was vilified.

00:12:54.420 But the difference is those groups, the Italians, the Irish, the Jews, when they migrated to the U.S.,

00:13:00.880 they looked at the problem very differently.

00:13:03.640 The Italians and the Irish said, oh yeah, well then we're just going to become the cops and firemen.

00:13:07.720 The Jews said, oh yeah, you're trying to keep us out of business?

00:13:10.060 We're just going to become the bankers and the lawyers.

00:13:12.040 And, you know, I mean, so those groups looked at it, saw a problem, tackled the problem and succeeded.

00:13:18.360 I don't like this, this victim mentality.

00:13:21.780 We saw all over the media, Candace Owens, she's being praised by Kanye West.

00:13:25.520 But Candace Owens was right.

00:13:27.140 What is with this, this desire to be oppressed?

00:13:30.440 This victim mentality where it's everyone's fault but your own and then vilifying people to the point to get killed.

00:13:37.440 The second you don't walk their line, the second you don't believe like the left does, they're going to attack you.

00:13:42.520 Regardless if you're, like what's going on now with Kanye West, you know, he's the epitome of that ironic fact on them.

00:13:52.500 You know, I've always, every time the left cries oppression, cries they're vilified, well, we look different or we sound different because of inner city dialect.

00:14:02.500 I point to Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese.

00:14:06.760 We both grew up in New York.

00:14:08.940 We look, we saw the LA riots.

00:14:11.020 Koreans come to this country, they look different, they can barely speak the language, they open businesses, they work around the clock, they succeed. 1.00

00:14:17.840 And in Los Angeles, back in the 90s, they were the first people attacked. 0.82

00:14:21.220 They were the only ethnic group willing to service some of these black areas that were gang ridden and murderous. 1.00

00:14:28.160 They went in there, they opened up businesses, they serviced the community, and they were the ones first victimized.

00:14:33.560 We see it in New York with the Korean grocery stores on almost every corner, right, open 24 hours a day.

00:14:39.820 Those are the people robbed, shot, and killed.

00:14:42.140 It will never, I don't even want to say make sense to me, but at which point do we start pointing the fingers and placing blame where it belongs?

00:14:49.920 On certain communities that have no interest in succeeding.

00:14:54.160 A very small subset of those communities, I'll add, but that would rather point fingers, go out there, murder, and then make excuses for why they're doing it.

00:15:02.340 And their main excuse is oppression from 400 years ago.

00:15:06.660 Or I came from El Salvador.

00:15:08.960 Culturally, it's what we do in my country.

00:15:10.580 And what they don't gather is all the Democrats care about is their votes.

00:15:14.660 They could care less about them.

00:15:15.940 And Kanye's tweet nailed that with his Chicago.

00:15:18.740 Chicago remained the same.

00:15:20.480 Eight years.

00:15:21.240 Eight years of Obama.

00:15:22.420 Chicago remains the same.

00:15:23.780 Nothing has changed in Chicago.

00:15:25.920 Now, look, he's spot on.

00:15:27.680 This is, Rob, this is so infuriating.

00:15:29.240 And the most heartbreaking part of this is that you and I are most likely going to be back here in a couple of days or a couple of weeks talking about another slain cop.

00:15:41.420 It's unbelievable.

00:15:42.520 I mean, with what's going on in Massachusetts where they just signed a criminal justice reform bill to make releasing these animals easier.

00:15:51.800 You know, let's keep them less in jail. 0.95

00:15:53.940 Let's give them less bail. 0.99

00:15:54.980 Let's give them no bail. 0.55

00:15:55.980 Because, you know, they're not really that bad.

00:15:58.300 Well, here's someone in 2006 who had a felony conviction for burglary.

00:16:01.920 He had other arrests between then.

00:16:04.220 He had a gun arrest. 0.99

00:16:05.420 And now he's out to kill a cop. 0.97

00:16:07.020 That's how the progression works.

00:16:09.040 Yes, you can reform some people.

00:16:10.780 Some people do see the light and change their lives around.

00:16:14.400 Other than not, they don't.

00:16:16.320 You know, Rob, there's this new movement.

00:16:19.140 And I know we're running out of time.

00:16:20.220 There's this new movement now for no cash bail.

00:16:22.960 It's taking hold around the country.

00:16:24.300 The New Jersey governor wants it.

00:16:25.980 That doesn't mean remand.

00:16:27.940 That doesn't mean they're going to sit in jail.

00:16:29.700 It means they're going to actually trust these savages to be released on their own recognizance.

00:16:34.720 This is a purely liberal move.

00:16:38.260 It's no cash bail move.

00:16:40.020 Now, the private prison industry is looking at this.

00:16:44.620 And I don't really know where they come down on it.

00:16:47.720 Part of me feels that they like it because they think they're going to get those inmates.

00:16:51.340 They're going to make money.

00:16:52.120 But I don't think that's what the liberal judges have in mind.

00:16:54.300 And I would hope that the private prison industry and all their money starts to lobby very, very hard against this no cash bail concept.

00:17:02.000 Because we will see crime rates skyrocket back to the 1970s and 80s.

00:17:06.300 And if they make a move like that, put some kind of clause in there where there is some culpability on the judges that are making these decisions.

00:17:14.000 Absolutely right.

00:17:14.720 There has to be some culpability on that level.

00:17:17.660 You know, exactly.

00:17:18.460 Why don't we have transferred intent for judges, right?

00:17:21.940 If I drive you to a grocery store knowing you're going to rob it, you blow away the clerk, I'm getting charged with the murder.

00:17:28.940 Well, if a judge releases on their own recognizance or on a pittance of bail somebody with a laundry list of violent felonies and they commit a violent felony, why the hell shouldn't that judge also face a charge?

00:17:40.600 You'll see judges act very, very differently.

00:17:43.540 Absolutely.

00:17:44.260 Why shouldn't they face the victim's families in a civil matter?

00:17:47.540 Why shouldn't they face their own sanctions as regards to their bad decisions?

00:17:53.200 Every other agency does.

00:17:54.300 You know, if you're a police officer, if you're a police supervisor, if you're a police administrator in your department, you're going to pay the price.

00:18:00.920 That's right.

00:18:01.460 Judges make their decisions with impunity.

00:18:03.920 We see far too many judges prosecuted for these decisions.

00:18:07.960 Rob O'Donnell is always, my friend, an absolute pleasure.

00:18:10.860 Rob O'Donnell is, by the way, a—Rob O'Donnell is, if I don't know you.

00:18:13.560 Rob is a director of a group called Brothers Before Others.

00:18:17.340 I'm a member.

00:18:17.940 It's a law enforcement paternal organization.

00:18:19.860 They do amazing things for the families of fallen police officers, flowers to every funeral, a lot of help behind the scenes to these families, emotional support, financial support.

00:18:31.500 Check the organization out.

00:18:32.440 Rob, give us the website and the Twitter handle.

00:18:35.800 It's brothersbeforeothers.org, and it's at BBOInc14.

00:18:42.920 BBOInc14.

00:18:43.780 I rarely, if you watch the show, you know, I rarely endorse any organization.

00:18:47.480 I'm part of this group.

00:18:48.900 I'm friendly with the management of this group.

00:18:50.960 Rob is one of the best human beings I know.

00:18:54.280 It is an absolutely outstanding organization.

00:18:57.360 Rob, as always, my friend, a pleasure.

00:18:59.260 And unfortunately, we had to talk about this again.

00:19:01.760 One day we'll come on and talk about more pleasant topics like just plain old crime.

00:19:05.720 Have a great one.

00:19:06.840 Thank you, John.

00:19:07.480 Is the Great Awakening happening?

00:19:21.200 Are people, especially people of color, finally becoming enlightened that the left has done nothing but oppress them and use them as pawns for years?

00:19:32.060 Well, the left is hysterical.

00:19:34.440 Now, we've been talking about Kanye West and his support for President Trump.

00:19:38.300 Not only is Kanye West not backing down, but other rappers are now beginning to support him.

00:19:48.260 Kanye West tweeted yesterday.

00:19:50.660 He's doubling down on his support for Trump.

00:19:52.580 He said, he tweeted, you don't have to agree with Trump, but the mob can't make me not love him.

00:19:58.040 Of course, he means the liberal mob.

00:19:59.800 We are both dragon energy.

00:20:03.000 Fire breathing is what he means.

00:20:04.720 He's kind of right.

00:20:05.580 They're both, you know, firebrand guys.

00:20:07.720 He is my brother.

00:20:08.940 I love everyone.

00:20:10.460 I don't agree with everything anyone does.

00:20:13.040 I think he wanted to say, I don't agree with everything everyone does.

00:20:16.780 That's what makes us individuals, and we have the right to independent thought.

00:20:21.740 Now, the left, if you look at Kanye West's Twitter feed, that tweet went absolutely viral.

00:20:26.420 72, as I read this to you, 72,000, just under 72,500 retweets, just over 278,000 likes.

00:20:36.880 And people are saying, your comment, I love the old Yee, I miss the old Kanye West.

00:20:46.980 No, Kanye's canceled, canceled for the rest of 2018.

00:20:52.340 And, you know, obviously, the left is beside themselves.

00:20:56.660 Now, you would think it was unique to Kanye West, right?

00:20:59.420 No.

00:21:00.540 Chance the Rapper.

00:21:01.920 I'm not a big rap fan, but apparently this guy is pretty famous in the rap world.

00:21:06.440 7.62 million Twitter followers.

00:21:10.860 He tweeted, black people don't have to be Democrats.

00:21:16.440 He then tweeted, next president going to be independent. 0.80

00:21:20.320 The black people don't have to be Democrats tweet received around 60,000 retweets.

00:21:27.140 Very similar activity to Kanye West.

00:21:28.720 This guy's got a big following.

00:21:30.300 Just over 230,000 likes.

00:21:32.680 He says, tweet about an independent president, 10,000 retweets, 77,000.

00:21:38.520 Like, he, Kanye West apparently was berated by Kim Kardashian.

00:21:43.340 And he said, my wife, he also tweeted, my wife just called me and she wanted me to make

00:21:46.460 this clear to everyone.

00:21:47.880 I don't agree with everything Trump does.

00:21:49.820 I don't agree with 100% with anyone but myself.

00:21:52.360 Now, this is very, very interesting in that Kanye West is not backing down.

00:21:58.060 You saw Shania Twain last week back down to the left-wing mafia. 1.00

00:22:01.920 But this is a massive, massive step.

00:22:07.500 One of the reasons that the left has been able, with terrible, terrible policy, no economic message,

00:22:17.360 no national security message, no empowerment message, no growth message, no message of pride,

00:22:25.860 personal responsibility, rank, dignity, self-respect.

00:22:31.500 It's all take from government, you know, live off the nanny state, be a welfare recipient. 1.00

00:22:38.960 You're too incompetent blacks and Hispanics to get ID to vote. 1.00

00:22:43.240 If you're a woman, you're only voting Republican because your husband is probably a closet domestic 1.00

00:22:50.380 abuser who forces you to do it. 0.99

00:22:52.840 And he's most likely also a closet racist and misogynist. 0.83

00:22:56.580 Because that's really the message of the Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Tom Perez, Democratic National Committee. 0.93

00:23:04.820 It was Debbie Wasserman Schultz, now Tom Perez.

00:23:07.020 You've got guys like Keith Ellison in there who are like this, the Louis Farrakhan, Muslim Brotherhood, 0.52

00:23:12.420 people associated with Hamas.

00:23:14.000 The left is so radical.

00:23:16.460 So far left, they fall off San Francisco every morning when they roll out of bed.

00:23:20.800 This terrifies them.

00:23:22.560 Make no mistake.

00:23:24.080 This terrifies them because the only reason they've been able to win anything,

00:23:29.240 all of that horrible messaging and all of, and with the lack of all those things I mentioned

00:23:34.740 is because they've had the culture.

00:23:37.700 They've had the music industry.

00:23:39.960 They've had Hollywood.

00:23:41.300 They have journalism.

00:23:42.760 They have broadcast news.

00:23:44.300 They have a great portion of cable news.

00:23:46.200 The right has really only had talk radio, Fox News,

00:23:49.940 outlets like The Rebel, other digital properties that swing conservative,

00:23:56.300 other television groups like Flair, One America, Newsmax.

00:24:00.560 But audience-wise, we all really pale in comparison to Hollywood and the music industry

00:24:08.960 and the broadcast ABC, NBC, CBS channels, right, around the country.

00:24:15.740 Those all lean heavily left.

00:24:18.840 So a very large portion, when you think about it, this country is only exposed to left-wing content,

00:24:26.420 especially those who are younger, the millennials and younger,

00:24:28.780 because they're typically engrossed in entertainment.

00:24:31.760 Kanye West is a super-influencer.

00:24:35.120 He's not an influencer.

00:24:35.900 He's a super-influencer.

00:24:37.520 Chance the Rapper, again, don't know his music, of course, know who he is,

00:24:40.260 but he's a super-influencer in his genre.

00:24:44.060 And that genre, the rap genre, crossed over into white America decades ago.

00:24:48.920 So these guys are super-influencers across the board.

00:24:53.360 They've got the brands.

00:24:54.940 They've got the earned media.

00:24:56.460 They've got the money.

00:24:57.420 They've got the marketing machines behind them to keep themselves, very relevant,

00:25:02.360 to keep themselves those super-influencers, right?

00:25:05.460 So when they turn around, they turn around, guys like that, and they say,

00:25:10.140 we are off the liberal plantation.

00:25:13.500 We are no longer succumbing to the, we're no longer succumbing to the, 0.89

00:25:20.300 or subscribing to, I guess, the notion that we must vote Democrat.

00:25:28.860 Well, it drives people nuts.

00:25:30.720 Now, I think Kanye drove Kanye West, 0.99

00:25:35.020 drove the final stake into the heart of that leftist vampire 0.97

00:25:39.540 when he tweeted this last night. 0.99

00:25:42.800 This is epic.

00:25:44.660 And you can imagine the horror.

00:25:47.500 There were probably people in New York, Los Angeles, D.C.,

00:25:51.460 Chicago crying, hoping that the next tweet was going to be,

00:25:54.760 hey, it's Kanye.

00:25:55.420 Someone hacked my account.

00:25:57.320 Kanye West tweeted, Obama was in office for eight years,

00:26:01.300 and nothing in Chicago changed.

00:26:06.280 68,000, a little over 68,000 retweets as I read it,

00:26:10.060 about almost 220,000 likes.

00:26:15.460 219,570 is almost a quarter million people like this, all right?

00:26:21.020 This is one of the truest statements.

00:26:25.440 Now, this one, saw Kanye especially vilified.

00:26:30.080 Here's one from a woman named Karen, Kay Carter, 0912.

00:26:33.520 So now you're on Twitter bad-mouthing President Obama? 1.00

00:26:37.400 You're a bitch-ass. 1.00

00:26:38.960 I'll never buy another Kanye West CD. 1.00

00:26:41.180 Chicago is your home, too.

00:26:43.760 Boycott stricter gun laws needed.

00:26:48.620 This is amazing.

00:26:50.140 This is amazing.

00:26:51.760 He is being completely vilified.

00:26:55.260 Now, people on the right are coming out and supporting Kanye West's position

00:26:59.040 because Kanye West is right.

00:27:00.580 Under the eight years of Barack Obama, black-on-black murder especially skyrocketed in Chicago.

00:27:08.400 Skyrocketed in Chicago.

00:27:10.280 All Kanye West is doing, all Chance the Rapper is doing, saying the truth.

00:27:17.320 They're giving their opinion.

00:27:18.720 Look, I don't entirely disagree with Chance the Rapper on the next president's going to be independent

00:27:22.760 because I think this president is really at home independent.

00:27:25.780 Donald Trump is not an ideological conservative.

00:27:28.060 The establishment Republican Party hates him.

00:27:31.700 They're still working against him every day.

00:27:33.820 If anything, Donald Trump really is an independent but knew that he had to run as a Republican

00:27:38.040 to be elected because an independent simply isn't taken seriously.

00:27:42.160 Third-party candidates are not.

00:27:43.600 So I don't think that Chance the Rapper is that far off base with saying our next president's going to be an independent

00:27:48.940 because I believe Donald Trump will sail to re-election.

00:27:51.620 And at heart, he's an independent guy.

00:27:53.440 But I love that Kanye West went after Obama like that.

00:27:57.640 See, the left is, they're incapable of admitting failure.

00:28:04.100 And they have done a masterful job of owning Hollywood.

00:28:08.460 And how do they do that?

00:28:09.520 Well, the players in Hollywood, the powers that be, have, unlike many other businesses,

00:28:14.820 tremendous influence over who's made and who's broken.

00:28:19.320 If you were to go to work for JPMorgan Chase, Jamie Dimon is the CEO, a very, very powerful guy, right?

00:28:25.460 But Jamie Dimon doesn't get in the weeds of a young trader's politics.

00:28:29.660 If there's a young trader on a desk in New York and Jamie Dimon is a Democrat,

00:28:34.000 I don't know if he's Republican or Democrat, but for argument's sake, he's a Democrat and he likes Barack Obama.

00:28:38.340 But that young trader who just came out of business school is working a trading desk in New York and he's killing it.

00:28:44.520 He's making the bank a lot of money and he's putting up on Twitter and Facebook that he supports Donald Trump or he supports Rand Paul or he supported Ted Cruz.

00:28:52.380 He's not putting incendiary inflammatory things that would get him fired.

00:28:56.200 Nothing that's shaming the bank.

00:28:57.180 Just putting his political views, quoting the Second Amendment, talking about policy and making it clear he's very conservative.

00:29:03.380 Jamie Dimon couldn't care less.

00:29:05.360 That guy's making the bank money.

00:29:07.160 Last thing on his mind is that guy's political view.

00:29:10.420 He's looking at the balance sheet.

00:29:11.740 He's seeing that that guy's desk is producing.

00:29:14.480 That guy's desk is constantly in the black to a significant degree.

00:29:18.840 Jamie Dimon is making sure that that guy's written a big bonus check every year so that he retains him, so that he stays with the bank.

00:29:24.720 If Jamie Dimon were a forward-right Republican and that trader were as far left as you can go and did the same thing, same result.

00:29:32.900 Writing him that big check every year, doing all he can to make sure he retains him at the bank.

00:29:38.140 Hollywood's not like that.

00:29:39.100 The music industry isn't like that.

00:29:40.540 Very, very petty.

00:29:41.740 It doesn't matter how good you are, how much potential you have, unless you're at the level of a Kanye West or a Chance the Rapper or a Clint Eastwood or a John Voight or a Tom Selleck or a James Woods, unless you have many, many years in the business and you've already made it and you've made it on your own and you don't need the powers that be and the labels, they will crush you.

00:30:03.800 They will crush you.

00:30:07.460 The Harvey Weinsteins of the world, the David Geffins of the world, the Rob Reiners of the world, these radical leftists, they will step in and they will crush you.

00:30:17.180 Because you don't subscribe to their far left point of view.

00:30:21.120 Now, if you know anything about the industry, News Corp, parent company of Fox, which most people think Fox News, but it's also Fox Studios, one of the biggest in the world, was my client for years.

00:30:30.840 And I got, I worked with their government affairs group.

00:30:32.860 I saw how all this works.

00:30:33.980 The powers that be would court Democratic politicians because Democratic politicians had had this relationship with the movie industry.

00:30:44.480 Christopher Dodd, Dodd Frank, far left Democrat from Connecticut is now one of the most influential entertainment industry lobbyists in D.C.

00:30:53.120 He's making a fortune.

00:30:54.960 They loved him back in the days when I was at News Corp.

00:30:57.580 They loved him because he would do their bidding, you know, in Congress.

00:31:01.320 He'd get them everything they wanted.

00:31:02.400 They would then give him access to the studio lot and he'd get invited to parties with celebrities and celebrities would share cell phone numbers with him and he'd get all these perks.

00:31:12.580 I'm not alleging any illegality.

00:31:14.380 I think it was all above board as far as I saw.

00:31:17.040 But he was, you know, loved being able to drive down to New York City and hang out with Robert De Niro and Al Pacino and, you know, beautiful actresses and take photos with them.

00:31:26.300 And when he got out, he was rewarded very handsomely with lobbying contracts from the studios for all the nice things he did for them while he was in Congress.

00:31:35.600 And that's how the game goes.

00:31:38.260 So don't you dare.

00:31:40.220 Don't you dare even hint that you're a Republican in the entertainment industry because the entertainment industry was always radically far left.

00:31:48.200 They gravitated naturally to Democrats.

00:31:49.740 Democrats did their bidding in Congress.

00:31:51.600 The Republicans didn't.

00:31:52.480 The Republicans owe them nothing.

00:31:53.500 So now they've got this very fragile hold on film credits, subsidies, all of these things that you need the federal government to do for you in certain industries.

00:32:03.500 And that's the relationship of the Democrats.

00:32:05.380 That's why they hold on to it.

00:32:06.480 And that's why they're so quick when they see an up and coming star who might be Republican, who might bad mouth Democrats.

00:32:12.900 They need to shut that down because a celebrity has the ability, even a young celebrity, to garner far more earned media quickly than that trader on Wall Street.

00:32:24.280 That trader on Wall Street might be actually making more money than that young celebrity.

00:32:28.460 But it doesn't matter.

00:32:29.780 They're not.

00:32:30.340 They're behind the scenes.

00:32:31.320 They're on a trading floor, on a desk.

00:32:33.620 They're not newsworthy.

00:32:34.800 They're one of many.

00:32:36.140 They're one of many.

00:32:37.100 That celebrity, if they go on The Ellen Show or they go on to Jimmy Fallon or Conan O'Brien or they're on Good Morning America and they are speaking to millions in that audience or they're on Twitter.

00:32:50.300 It's 7 million, 5 million, 10 million followers.

00:32:54.120 And they say, wow, what Donald Trump did was great or wow, Melania looked beautiful or man, Ted Cruz is a genius.

00:33:04.000 He just took down Zuckerberg.

00:33:05.160 They go, wow, I really respect Rand Paul for sticking to his guns.

00:33:08.720 Their career is done.

00:33:10.460 Their career is done if they're new in the business.

00:33:12.840 For Kanye West, what are you going to do to him?

00:33:15.380 What are you going to do to Kanye West who has, here, let's take a look, 27.9 million followers on Twitter.

00:33:24.920 27.9 million followers on Twitter.

00:33:28.560 Put it in perspective.

00:33:29.460 Fox News' best ratings are around 3.3 million for a Tucker Carlson or a Sean Hannity on one of their best nights.

00:33:38.380 Kanye West has nearly 10 times, nine times an audience, has over nine times an audience that size.

00:33:45.080 I mean, this is, this is massive, massive exposure, massive exposure.

00:33:57.560 Kanye West also put out another tweet yesterday that showed a MAGA hat.

00:34:02.580 He actually has a Make America Great Again hat signed by President Trump, and he put that up with flames.

00:34:09.480 Now he's putting up tweets from other celebrities, texts to him from other celebrities who are calling him out for supporting Trump.

00:34:20.680 He doesn't care.

00:34:21.400 He's doubling down, doubling down, doubling down, and I find this so incredibly interesting.

00:34:26.960 I'm, I'm scrolling through.

00:34:28.740 President Trump then responded to Kanye West over the tweet I read you earlier.

00:34:32.700 You don't have to, you know, you don't have to agree with Trump, but you can't make me not love him.

00:34:36.040 President Trump quoted, tweeted him and said, thank you, Kanye West.

00:34:40.540 But the MAGA hat, when Kanye West put up his MAGA hat signed by Trump, it made people insane.

00:34:48.580 It made people, and it's, it's watching his Twitter feed, Kanye West Twitter feed, he's putting out some pretty coherent stuff.

00:35:01.600 It's not the rambling.

00:35:02.820 He said, you know, Google supports Yeezy in ending violence in Chicago.

00:35:07.720 He wants to meet with Larry Page from Google.

00:35:10.240 Look, I like it when celebrities start to use their media power, start to use their media power.

00:35:18.580 Do, do good.

00:35:21.080 I'm not talking about supporting Trump. 0.93

00:35:22.840 I want to see Kanye West going to Chicago and try to end young black men killing each other. 1.00

00:35:28.240 But man, what an epic start. 0.95

00:35:30.200 What an epic start.

00:35:32.240 To start seeing these cultural, cultural influencers, especially those who are African American,

00:35:38.000 tell the millennials, tell kids in high school, kids in middle school, that you don't have to be a Democrat.

00:35:46.600 It's okay to open your mind and to be a free thinker.

00:35:50.060 It's okay to look at both sides and not listen to the indoctrination that you're being subject to.

00:35:56.860 I just hope this trend continues.

00:35:58.640 And I suspect that when you've got guys like Kanye West and Chance the Rapper with followings as big as theirs, 34 million Twitter followers combined.

00:36:07.600 I'm sure there's a lot of crossover there, but say 30 million unique followers.

00:36:12.960 I hope that this starts to become a trend and we see more celebrities moving away from an ideology that's done nothing, that's done nothing but keep people of color down. 1.00

00:36:27.240 That's done nothing but keep women down. 1.00

00:36:29.700 That's done nothing but keep people of certain sexual orientations marginalized.

00:36:34.160 This is a great start.

00:36:35.340 I really want to see this spread like wildfire.

00:36:36.980 The Washington Post is reporting that Rudy Giuliani has told Robert Mueller that President Trump is extremely, this is a quote, extremely opposed to a sit-down interview.

00:37:00.900 I think that is a very, very wise decision.

00:37:03.600 Now, Giuliani, who knows Mueller for many, many years, they worked together in the Justice Department, is apparently negotiating with Mueller to bring an end to the probe.

00:37:12.080 People who are, the Washington Post claims are familiar with this, have said that Giuliani, let me read it to you from the Washington Post.

00:37:20.040 Giuliani, who joined Trump's legal team last week, conveyed the ongoing resistance of Trump and his advisors to an interview with federal investigators.

00:37:28.100 They should never talk to federal investigators.

00:37:30.460 If I have a lawyer, I have a lawyer to speak to them, cut a deal, write down your answers, make sure that they can't trip you up on anything.

00:37:39.260 But they did not rule out the possibility of speaking to Mueller.

00:37:42.400 The people said, and this is three people familiar with the talk, adding that Giuliani pressed Mueller for clarity on when the probe is expected to end.

00:37:51.260 In response, Mueller reiterated, he would like a chance to ask Trump questions about steps he took during the transition and early months of his administration.

00:38:00.460 The special counsel emphasized, as he did in conversation, conversations in March with Trump's team, that an interview is essential for investigators to understand Trump's intent in making key decisions as they seek to wrap up the portion of the probe focused on potential obstruction of justice.

00:38:21.100 No, it's no, it's a perjury trap.

00:38:23.780 They're going to spin whatever he says.

00:38:25.720 Trump's lawyers do it in writing and should write down something that says, I fired James Comey because of his handling of Hillary Clinton case after conferring with Bob Rosenstein, Jeff Sessions, other counsel,

00:38:41.940 who all advised me that he mishandled the probe and that it was not under the purview of the FBI director to decide whether or not a case goes to the Justice Department.

00:38:52.120 And if James Comey felt that Loretta Lynch was unable to do her job ethically and with integrity, with honesty, he should have gone to Congress or the inspector general or something to that effect.

00:39:04.040 Because they want to get Trump in there because they know Trump likes to speak colloquially.

00:39:08.180 And he might say something that New Yorkism means one thing, but to Robert Mueller, in legalese means another.

00:39:14.960 He should not speak to him.

00:39:17.540 Now, the people involved, of course, these are anonymous sources.

00:39:22.540 And it says, the face-to-face discussions illustrate how Giuliani is functioning as Trump's chief liaison and lead negotiator with the special counsel, which I think is wise.

00:39:32.720 Giuliani and Mueller know each other.

00:39:34.220 And there will come a point where Mueller might say to Giuliani, look, this is what we're trying to do here.

00:39:39.300 All right.

00:39:39.980 And Giuliani is going to say, you know, Bob, it's gone on way too long.

00:39:44.000 I know you're kind of in your bubble.

00:39:45.800 I know you've got tunnel vision here, but you've got to see what you're doing to the country.

00:39:48.520 And that, you know, you've got to just kind of do something here, Bob, because you know the president didn't do anything.

00:39:55.640 You're putting a cloud over this White House.

00:39:57.680 It's not your place as an unelected, unconfirmed guy to do.

00:40:02.280 And that's something that two guys who are colleagues in the Justice Department, Giuliani has a big enough reputation.

00:40:09.080 He has enough political juice to have that conversation.

00:40:11.780 And that's what's happening.

00:40:12.820 Look, no matter what the media tries to tell you about these people, men of integrity, they don't speak.

00:40:17.360 Nobody's that austere.

00:40:18.680 Hey, I worked around these people my entire adult life.

00:40:21.560 I still do.

00:40:22.600 Nobody's that austere.

00:40:23.700 At the end of the day, everybody at a table across a guy that they worked with is just a regular old person.

00:40:29.800 You know, they really are.

00:40:31.140 And Giuliani is going to tell him exactly what I said.

00:40:33.840 Bob, you know, stop that.

00:40:36.360 Like, let's put this thing to bed.

00:40:39.000 What do you need?

00:40:39.920 President's not sitting down with you.

00:40:41.460 You're not going to run indefinitely.

00:40:42.820 Public perception is against you.

00:40:44.640 People are getting upset.

00:40:46.140 Congress is going to start asking questions.

00:40:48.000 What do you need?

00:40:48.620 You want a written statement to put this thing to bed?

00:40:50.260 We'll give you a written statement.

00:40:51.440 Like, end the nonsense.

00:40:52.700 That's what needs to happen now.

00:40:54.460 Giuliani said, I'm doing it because I hope we can, as a quote, I hope I'm doing it because

00:40:59.960 I hope we can negotiate an end to this for the good of the country and because I have high

00:41:03.400 regard for the president and for Bob Mueller.

00:41:05.740 He's actually said that last week.

00:41:07.820 But I think this is wise.

00:41:09.420 I think this is a very wise move to be extremely opposed.

00:41:12.980 And that comes from one Trump advisor.

00:41:17.000 See, the president of the United States could not be sitting down with somebody who has been

00:41:23.040 so absolutely heavy, especially the raid.

00:41:26.700 I'm very sorry.

00:41:27.580 My outlet was just terrible this week.

00:41:30.420 You could hear it in my voice and my eyes.

00:41:32.540 I don't know what's going on in the air, but it's not good.

00:41:35.360 No bueno for me.

00:41:36.480 So apologies for the voice.

00:41:39.180 But it's never a good idea to sit with federal investigators unless you're subpoenaed.

00:41:44.980 And in this case, with Mueller's heavy-handed tactic, kicking in Paul Manafort's door at

00:41:50.940 5 a.m. and frisking his wife in a nightgown at gunpoint is weird.

00:41:56.780 You don't do that for white-collar cases.

00:41:58.800 That was purely an intimidation on the part of Robert Mueller and Weissman.

00:42:04.440 Andrew Weissman is number two.

00:42:06.140 Now, I've told you how Robert Mueller has dubious dealings.

00:42:09.620 Alan Dershowitz was even calling for Mueller to be investigated over his handling of the

00:42:15.660 Whitey Bulger investigation, over his protecting Whitey Bulger and John Connolly, the dirty

00:42:21.340 FBI agent who conspired with Bulger, who's now sitting in jail, in prison.

00:42:26.260 Connolly is doing a lot of time.

00:42:28.120 Bulger, of course, himself was on the run from 1994 to 2011, caught in Santa Monica 2011,

00:42:34.440 serving multiple, multiple life terms.

00:42:37.060 He's in his 80s.

00:42:38.200 He'll die in prison.

00:42:40.180 And so I don't believe that Giuliani should sit down with anybody who's acted that heavy-handed,

00:42:47.420 but also has a history, a very dubious history going back in terms of the way he's handled

00:42:53.860 the most vicious felons.

00:42:56.740 I like that Giuliani is negotiating it.

00:42:59.780 I really, really do.

00:43:00.880 But I think it's long past the time now where Trump can fire.

00:43:06.740 Because right now, any reason he would have to fire him is, and I say that and there's

00:43:11.340 a caveat to that moment, has come and gone.

00:43:15.440 He might have been able to fire him when McCabe was charged by the OIJ.

00:43:18.300 Now, if there's any chance to fire Mueller, it would have to happen when the final Inspector

00:43:23.900 General report comes out, if it's scathing, if it's damning for Comey, for Stroke, for

00:43:32.300 McCabe, for Lisa Page, for all of the people that got Mueller started in the first place.

00:43:37.880 And we know James Comey got him started using the fake dossier, leaking the memos.

00:43:42.400 This is always what Comey wanted. 1.00

00:43:44.340 Comey felt slighted.

00:43:45.240 He wanted a special counsel.

00:43:47.560 This has really damaged this country.

00:43:50.020 It's really damaged this country. 0.92

00:43:51.700 And it all appears to be happening because Comey is a very petty, thin-skinned little man.

00:43:58.260 He's 6'8", 6'9", whatever he is.

00:44:00.980 But he might as well be, you know, 3'2".

00:44:02.840 He's just a very little, petty man.

00:44:05.180 In every interview he does, he makes himself look much, much worse. 0.91

00:44:12.800 Every interview, he makes himself look much, much worse.

00:44:17.060 And I just really want to see this thing put to bed, I hope, by Trump admitting written

00:44:21.920 questions, Mueller standing up and saying to the world, we've got the president's answers,

00:44:26.900 no obstruction of justice.

00:44:28.520 We're ending the probe.

00:44:29.980 And we're going to move forward with the prosecutions of those already indicted and let those people

00:44:34.300 find it out in court, with the exception of General Flynn, who needs to have his plea

00:44:39.060 vacated and his charges dismissed with prejudice.

00:44:43.000 I don't want General Flynn even getting a pardon.

00:44:46.060 Because a pardon means he did something wrong and he's getting a pass on it.

00:44:49.160 No.

00:44:49.760 General Flynn is an honorable good man.

00:44:51.640 I know General Flynn, full disclosure.

00:44:54.020 I know General Flynn.

00:44:55.540 I know his son very well.

00:44:56.740 Well, this man did nothing wrong.

00:45:00.620 He did nothing other than say, I can't recall, and had a different recollection than a few

00:45:04.820 other people.

00:45:05.820 He went through hell, far less than Comey did, far less than McCabe did, far less than Huma

00:45:12.040 Aberdeen did, and far less than Hillary Clinton did.

00:45:14.820 And that's my personal opinion.

00:45:16.720 That's not of the rebel.

00:45:18.360 That's my personal opinion.

00:45:20.920 General Flynn, through my lens of law enforcement experience, would have his plea vacated.

00:45:25.740 His charges dismissed with prejudice, an apology from the federal government, and then he

00:45:32.240 should sue Mueller, Weissman, McCabe, Comey, Stroke, Page, every single one of them, for every

00:45:40.240 dime they have.

00:45:41.960 Add the Department of Justice and the Office of Special Counsel in to that litigation.

00:45:46.620 It's actually a pretty interesting case out of Manhattan.

00:46:01.840 A Manhattan judge ruled that bars have the right to kick Trump supporters out.

00:46:08.120 Actually, the judge ruled that bars, restaurants, establishments have the right to kick anyone

00:46:13.120 out for their political affiliations, that you don't have a right to be protected against

00:46:20.500 political discrimination.

00:46:22.080 And I kind of see the judge's point here.

00:46:25.920 Now, people will flame me because they think it's about Trump, but it's not.

00:46:28.500 Let me tell you where I stand on this.

00:46:29.700 From the New York Post, a Manhattan judge ruled Wednesday that there's nothing outrageous

00:46:34.140 about throwing the president's supporters out of bars because the law doesn't protect

00:46:39.500 against political discrimination.

00:46:41.260 However, now, the New York Post wrote that in a pro-Trump fashion, that paragraph, but

00:46:47.720 the same would apply to Hillary supporters, supporters of Barack Obama, supporters of Elizabeth

00:46:52.460 Warren, any supporter of any politician.

00:46:54.700 If you're wearing a shirt with Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton on it, you can now be kicked

00:46:58.160 out of a bar in Manhattan if the ownership is conservative, which is rare because it's

00:47:02.780 Manhattan, but you can be.

00:47:05.040 Philadelphia accountant Greg Playtech, 31, was bounced from a West Village bar called

00:47:09.700 The Happiest Hour on West 10th Street, an old neighborhood, just after Trump took the

00:47:15.520 oath of office.

00:47:16.160 This case goes back to January 2017.

00:47:19.440 He was wearing a Make America Great Again cap.

00:47:21.100 And the staff, he claims, the staff said, quote, anyone who supports Trump or believes in

00:47:27.640 what you believe is not welcome here, and you need to leave right now because we won't

00:47:32.100 serve you.

00:47:34.080 He claims that that's what the staff told him after he and his buddies were given bad service

00:47:38.360 from a bartender.

00:47:40.440 He sued in Manhattan Supreme Court, claiming in the incident they offended his sense of being

00:47:46.200 American.

00:47:46.700 Barr's lawyer pointed out that only religious and not political beliefs are protected under

00:47:53.700 state and city discrimination laws, saying, quote, supporting Trump is not a religion.

00:47:59.060 And now he claimed, and I have to say, I'm a Trump supporter, but I think the plaintiff's

00:48:05.380 arguments were dubious at best, you know, flimsy.

00:48:09.020 He said, quote, or the lawyer said, his attorney, Paul Legere, his attorney, Paul Legere, said,

00:48:20.660 quote, the purpose of the hat is that he wore it because he was visiting the 9-11 memorial,

00:48:24.560 end quote.

00:48:25.340 Well, that makes no sense to me.

00:48:26.940 Makes no sense to me.

00:48:27.660 People visit the 9-11.

00:48:28.260 I visited the 9-11 memorial.

00:48:30.320 I lost friends there.

00:48:31.520 Many, many times, I never wore any hat.

00:48:33.520 I never wore a Make America Great Again hat.

00:48:35.820 I didn't wear my contractor cap with the American flag on it.

00:48:40.700 I didn't wear any hat. 0.91

00:48:42.460 So that's kind of silly.

00:48:44.260 Quote, he was paying spiritual tribute to the victims of 9-11.

00:48:47.840 The Make America Great Again hat was part of his spiritual belief.

00:48:52.860 And he and his friends did go to the memorial.

00:48:55.420 But look, I'm a conservative.

00:48:57.500 I don't buy that argument.

00:48:59.180 Rather than remove his hat, this is still from his attorney.

00:49:01.340 Rather than remove his hat, instead, he held true to his spiritual belief and was forced

00:49:05.740 from the bar.

00:49:07.220 When the judge, and see, I think the judge was exercising common sense here, asked how

00:49:11.400 the bar employees were supposed to be aware of Playtech's unusual religious belief, the

00:49:15.940 lawyer answered, quote, they were aware he was wearing the hat, quote.

00:49:20.220 The judge then said, quote, how many members are in this spiritual program that your client

00:49:24.540 is engaged in?

00:49:26.620 And the lawyer responded, your honor, we don't allege the amount of individuals.

00:49:31.560 The judge said, well, it's a creed of one.

00:49:33.820 And the lawyer answered, yes, your honor.

00:49:36.000 Now, again, I'm a Trump supporter.

00:49:38.180 I'm not a lawyer, but I've sat in on enough trials.

00:49:40.440 I kind of know how this stuff works.

00:49:42.800 Just a flimsy argument.

00:49:44.280 I mean, they're right.

00:49:45.400 Political discrimination is not protected.

00:49:47.780 Maybe it should be.

00:49:48.920 Maybe that's a whole nother conversation.

00:49:52.260 Whole nother show.

00:49:52.940 Whether or not we should pass state and city laws protecting against political discrimination.

00:49:57.060 But then we're in that line, and then we not mock someone on Twitter who supports Hillary

00:50:02.180 Clinton or Elizabeth Warren or Cory Booker.

00:50:05.860 And the left not mock us if we support Donald Trump.

00:50:08.320 I don't like that infringement of free speech under the penalty of government's gun either.

00:50:12.580 Very interesting case.

00:50:14.200 At the end of the day, this guy lost his case because the judge said the plaintiff, the judge

00:50:19.300 heard an hour of arguments, took a short break, then returned with his ruling.

00:50:22.440 The judge said, quote, the plaintiff does not state any faith-based principle to which

00:50:27.360 the hat released and tossed the case out.

00:50:31.140 The judge also said, quote, hear the claim that plaintiff was not served, this is the

00:50:38.880 important part of the judge's decision, the quote I was looking for, quote, hear the claim

00:50:43.320 that plaintiff was not served and eventually escorted out of the bar because of his perceived

00:50:48.540 support for President Trump is not outrageous conduct, end quote, meaning on the part of

00:50:53.240 the bar.

00:50:54.060 I have to agree with the judge.

00:50:55.760 I've got to agree with the judge because if I own a bar and a bunch of Obama supporters

00:51:00.160 were in there with hope and change hats saying they wanted Obama to have a third term and

00:51:04.940 my bar was predominantly conservative clientele who were offended and leaving, I'd say, hey,

00:51:09.460 guys, tone it down or leave.

00:51:11.020 And I want to be able to do that because it's my establishment.

00:51:14.320 It's a private establishment.

00:51:15.900 The I see property rights.

00:51:17.200 I see a business very much like I see a home.

00:51:20.200 You're in my home if you're in my business.

00:51:22.040 I want to be able to tell you to leave if you're acting in a way that I find offensive.

00:51:27.320 Now, unlike my home, there are certain rules I have to follow because it's a public establishment,

00:51:31.920 not publicly licensed.

00:51:33.080 But I looked at the New York State statute on it.

00:51:35.320 I looked at the New York City statute on it.

00:51:37.180 And they're correct.

00:51:38.460 There is no, there is a no provision for political discrimination.

00:51:44.200 There are provisions for religious, race, sexual orientation, things of that nature, pretty

00:51:49.800 much in line with the federal standard.

00:51:51.120 New York State and city go a little further.

00:51:52.960 But there's nothing for political discrimination.

00:51:56.160 And I don't think there should be.

00:51:58.320 I don't think your political affiliation could make you a protected class.

00:52:03.320 That, to me, is a very liberal concept.

00:52:05.880 So I caution conservatives, Trump supporters, before getting hysterical about this, think

00:52:10.860 about the shoe being on the other foot.

00:52:12.780 Think about a bar in a very red state.

00:52:16.120 Also benefiting now, even though it's a local New York case, but it can now be cited as case

00:52:21.000 law.

00:52:21.260 Think about them being sued for kicking out a bunch of Antifa members for their political

00:52:27.320 beliefs and now being able to use this case to support their position.

00:52:32.140 Think about a bar in Deep Red, Texas, whose bar is being infiltrated by anti-Second Amendment

00:52:38.760 crowd harassing anybody in the bar with an NRA stick or mocking the NRA and offending other

00:52:45.160 patrons.

00:52:45.660 Now, those bar owners have a precedent case upon which they can sue those people.

00:52:50.920 Or when they kick those people out and those people sue for discrimination, they now have

00:52:54.600 a precedent case upon which they can defend their establishment.

00:52:58.400 But at the end of the day, despite the guy being kicked out being a Trump supporter, I

00:53:04.160 think the judge made the right call.

00:53:20.920 has a swap.

00:53:24.160 Believe it.

00:53:24.400 Hold on.

00:53:28.580 offen.

00:53:29.520 See that later.

Rebel News Podcast - April 26, 2018

Off The Cuff Declassified - John Cardillo - April 26⧸2018

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