Off The Cuff Declassified - John Cardillo - May 15⧸2018
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Robert Mueller s conflicts of interest grow, this time with a Russian oligarch. Patrick Howley, editor-in-chief of Big League Politics, joins me to discuss that and new discoveries in Hillary Clinton's previously lost emails.
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Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, Robert Mueller's conflicts of interest grow,
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this time with a Russian oligarch. Patrick Howley, editor-in-chief of Big League Politics,
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joins me to discuss that and new discoveries in Hillary's previously lost emails. Turkey's
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Erdogan is recalling Turkish ambassadors to the United States and Israel, and Benjamin Netanyahu
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had some pretty harsh words after it happened. And the left is still hysterical over a
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citizenship question on the next U.S. Census. But Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross tells them to calm
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down. Robert Mueller is falsely accusing President Donald Trump of colluding with Russia,
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but there's new ironclad proof that Robert Mueller and Andrew McCabe colluded with Russia. A new story
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from the Hill, then repurposed and enhanced by Newsmax, really is, honestly, just blowing my
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mind. It's blowing my mind. Back in 2007, go back to 2007, a guy named Robert Levinson, a retired FBI
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agent, was working for the CIA on contract, gathering intelligence inside Iran. He disappeared,
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presumably kidnapped. We really don't know what happened to the guy. He might be dead. He might be
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on ice in some prison somewhere. And Levinson was presumably, the conventional wisdom is that
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Levinson was out there snooping around Kish Island and Karg Island, where it was rumored that Iran was
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playing with nuclear weapons, which we now know to be true, right? We now know from Benjamin Netanyahu,
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Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu's press conference a few weeks ago, his disclosures to the world, the Mossad
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operation, that yielded 105,000 new files, that Iran never stopped Project Ahmad. They just changed the names,
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which was its nuclear weapons program, its nuclear material enrichment program for weaponization. So we know
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that was the case. What probably happened, I don't know, but you don't have to be a master salute to figure it
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out, is that Levinson found something. The Iranians then found Levinson, and the rest, unfortunately, is very bad
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history. So in 2009, while Mueller was FBI director, he asked Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska,
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name you know, because it's long been alleged that Deripaska is the Russian mastermind, the Putin buddy,
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behind bribing Donald Trump and making him a Russian asset and a Russian puppet. Here's the problem.
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The Trump administration has sanctioned Deripaska's companies with some pretty,
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pretty robust sanctions. Okay. Mueller hired Deripaska. But wait, the FBI didn't pay Deripaska.
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The FBI asked Deripaska to use millions of his own money. The guy's a billionaire, made billions in
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aluminum. They asked him to use millions of his own money to help find Levinson. So Robert Mueller
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had this longtime relationship with Deripaska, an eight year relationship, working relationship with
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Deripaska before Mueller came on to the role of special counsel. This is filthy. This is filthy
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because then Mueller's office leaks and floats that Trump is in bed with Deripaska. When Mueller was in
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bed with Deripaska. Now, is it that's not bad enough? This whole thing gets worse.
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Guess who the FBI agent was at the time who recruited Deripaska, who reached out to Oleg Deripaska
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to get him to work with the FBI? Andrew McCabe. I said it here on the show. I don't know how many
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times I've said it. I say it numerous times, numerous times, numerous times. It always comes back. It all
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comes back. It'll always come back to Andrew McCabe, the dirtiest guy in the history of the FBI.
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Filthy. Andrew McCabe. So now you've got Andrew McCabe recruiting Deripaska, Robert Mueller approving
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the operation. Let me read you some pieces from this Hill opinion, some excerpts from this Hill
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opinion piece. Now, this is written by John Solomon, great investigative reporter. If you don't know
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Solomon's work, get to know it. Okay. In 2009, when Mueller ran the FBI, the Bureau asked Russian
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oligarch, Oleg Deripaska to spend millions of his own dollars funding an FBI supervised operation
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to rescue a retired FBI agent. As I mentioned, Robert Levinson captured in Iran while working for
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the CIA. Levinson mission is confirmed by more than a dozen participants inside and outside the FBI,
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including Deripaska, his lawyer, the Levinson family, and a retired FBI agent who supervised the case.
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Mueller was kept apprised of the operation. These are not anonymous sources. Deripaska himself
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said this happened. The Levinson family said it happened. Deripaska's lawyer said it happened.
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A retired FBI agent said it happened. Mueller and McCabe never told anyone they had previous
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relationships. This is really, I mean, this is earth shattering. Deripaska ultimately spent
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$25 million assembling private search and rescue teams. And they worked with FBI contacts under FBI
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supervision. And that's when we found out that Levinson was in fact alive. In 2010, they offered
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the operation secure and offer a free Levinson. The deal was scuttled because the State Department
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was uncomfortable with Iran's terms. Now, Robin Gritz, the FBI agent who McCabe sidelined,
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she worked on this case. She knew Bob Levinson. And I know Robin Gritz. We've spoken offline. And from
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what she's told me, that she told me I can disclose, McCabe is a horrible, horrible human
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being. General Flynn went to bat for her. Mueller and McCabe also railroaded General Flynn. And this
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new evidence only goes to bolster General Flynn's case. We're going to be talking about some other
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things that are going to help General Flynn as well. Let's talk about this first. Here's what
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Robin said. Robin Gritz said, quote, we tried to turn over every stone we could to rescue Bob.
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But every time we started to get close, the State Department always seemed to get in the way.
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I kept Director Mueller and Deputy Director John Pistole informed of the various efforts and
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operations. And they offered to intervene with State if necessary. Okay. Now, I wish we would
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have rescued Levinson. He was a career FBI agent. He went to work for the CIA to keep the world safe
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by spying on Iran. What happened to him is terrible. The operation was ended in 2011. And Levinson
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was never found. It's been 11 years since Bob Levinson was kidnapped. And he's gone without a trace. We
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have no idea where he is. He'd be dead, could be stuck in some Iranian prison on ice, never to see the
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light of day because he just knows too much about what Iran did. And it was disgraceful that through
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the whole Obama administration, we allowed this career FBI agent to rot in a prison because Obama's
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State Department, remember this was Hillary Clinton and John Kerry's State Department, allowed this guy to rot
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because what he knew was too tough on Iran and probably would have blown up the Iran deal.
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What's even worse is that Mueller and McCabe never disclosed to the public, never disclosed
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to ethics committees that they had a working relationship with Deripaska before trying to use
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him as this linchpin to frame Donald Trump. Now, this comes on the heels of new information
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about the second FBI agent involved in the interview of General Flynn. Agent's name, and you probably
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haven't heard his name until recently, if you've heard it at all, is Joe Pientka, Special Agent Joe
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Pientka. Joe Pientka was the agent alongside Peter Stroke who interviewed General Flynn in what really
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should never have been an interview. They showed up at his White House office acting as if they were
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interviewing the National Security Advisor, when in reality, they were there to trip the general up
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and ultimately indict him and charge him on bogus process crimes. Now, full disclosure, I know General
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Flynn. I've gotten to know the general very, very well. We speak. I know his son, Mike Flynn Jr.,
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very well. He's a friend. I spent a couple of days with him last week. This family has been through
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hell, and I believe that history will judge General Flynn very, very favorably. Very.
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Chuck Grassley, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, is up in arms over this.
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And in a story Sarah Carter did last week, we learn quite a bit. We learn that Joe Pientka
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never felt General Flynn lied. He did not feel General Flynn lied. And he was described,
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by the Congressional Committee, Senate Committee, as a non-partisan law enforcement officer.
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The agent was on detail to the committee staff at the time. According to that agent's contemporaneous
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notes, Director Comey specifically told us that briefing that the FBI agents who interviewed
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General Michael Flynn, quote, saw nothing that led them to believe he was lying. Oh, actually,
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I'm sorry. Yes, that was Joe Pientka. Had nothing to believe he was lying. So an agent who was present
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for the General Flynn interview, who also spoke to Congress, provided his notes to Congress,
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made it very clear to the Senate Judiciary Committee that he did not believe General Flynn was lying.
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Now, this Sarah Carter, whose work has been impeccable, writes, quote, according to numerous law
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enforcement officials I've spoken to over the past year, neither Stroke or Pientka believed Flynn was
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lying during their interview with him. This is terrible, terrible. Another U.S. official who spoke on
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background because they weren't authorized. But, quote, there's a lot of these agents, there's a lot
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these agents can reveal about that day, the day that General Flynn was interviewed, and what former
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FBI Director Andrew McCabe's role was in all of it. McCabe was apparently trying to find a reason,
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any reason, to make it look like Flynn was lying. The truth of the matter is, no one thought he lied,
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not even the agent who hated Trump, end quote. Now, had General Flynn's defense team had this
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information before they took their plea. And make no mistake, the left is out there saying,
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Flynn lied, he took a plea, he admitted he lied. No. General Flynn took a plea. This is not a wealthy
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man. General Flynn took a plea because this was destroying his life. He couldn't afford the
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soon-to-be insurmountable legal bills that he was incurring fighting these false allegations.
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Too many people take pleas on these minor charges. Now, General Flynn was a man who served this
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country for nearly 35 years honorably. He was prosecuted on a bogus process crime of
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lying to federal investigators. General Flynn wasn't going to spend any time in jail, maybe
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some lighthouse arrest. You take the plea. It's disgraceful. It's a terrible way to end an honorable
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career. I believe justice will prevail here. This new evidence is incredibly relevant, exculpatory
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evidence that Mueller withheld from General Flynn's defense team. No defendant on the planet would have
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taken a plea if their lawyer was in possession of paperwork provided by the prosecution that said,
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the two FBI agents who interviewed your client do not believe your client lied. We have no idea why
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the special counsel charged your client because the agents wouldn't be able to testify in court that
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they thought he lied. No, as James Comey liked to put it, reasonable prosecutor, whatever,
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have tried the charge in that case. Robert Mueller did. And out of all the things that Robert Mueller
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has done, even this newfound, massive conflict of interest with Russian oligarch, Oleg Deripaska,
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out of all of those things he's done, this, this is the worst. Withholding exculpatory evidence
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that the agents who actually sat with General Flynn felt he was being truthful.
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I've never heard of anything worse than this. The police come in. They say, we do not believe
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this person lied to us. And the prosecutors who weren't even in the room say, we don't care what
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you think we're charging him anyway. I've never seen anything like it. I caught a guy with a gun in
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his car and he was in the car with three other guys. And I didn't think the driver, I told you this
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story before, had anything to do with it. He was kind of a nerdy kid from the neighborhood. I
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thought he was afraid of the other three, driving them around under duress, turned out to be the
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case. My partner and I had to put him in handcuffs. We immediately, I mean, within minutes, because the
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holding cells in the Bronx were in the same building as the district attorney's offices. They
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typically are in the courthouse. We went over there to the DA's office. We put this kid, excuse me,
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in a holding cell. We told the corrections officer, we think this kid is innocent. We think he was
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framed up, put him, segregate him, look out for him. We're going to try to get him out of here
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right now. We're going to try to get us, make sure he's not put in there. I don't want to get this
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kid beat up. I don't want him hurt. They said, got it done. They put him in a different cell. He was
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safe. We went upstairs. We told the prosecutor, you know, the prosecutor said, great guys. I'm
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going to, you guys were there. I wasn't there. He goes, I, cops do not come in and say this to me.
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The mere fact that you guys, and you guys are active cops. And I know you guys, you're telling me,
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you don't think this kid did it? That's good enough for me. Where is he? Downstairs in the
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cell. All right, let me get my boss. Let's do some paperwork. Let's get him out of here
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right away. And we did. We did. He was out in about 35 minutes. He was out in about 35 minutes.
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Prosecutors voided that arrest. We had to make the arrest. It was the way the New York state law was
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written. The prosecutors were able to refuse to prosecute and dismiss it and release him. We got that kid
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out of there. Prosecutors don't go against law enforcement officers. It's unheard of, especially when
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the prosecutor wasn't there. In my case, the exact, I remember it vividly. It was over 20 years ago.
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He said, you guys were there. I wasn't. You talked to him. I didn't. I'm going with you guys. I mean,
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in our conversation, I remember it so vividly. We didn't even sit down with him. We stood in the
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doorway of his office and he popped up out of his chair and we told him in about 20 seconds to get
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the paperwork going to get this kid who we all knew was innocent out of the cell. That's how this stuff
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goes down. Okay. It doesn't go down like this where the, where, where a bias, agenda driven,
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conflicted prosecutor on a witch hunt puts people in jail for no reason. This is as bad as it gets.
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And on the heels of this, you now have Devin Nunez and Trey Gowdy, the Congressman accusing the
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Department of Justice of launching anonymous attacks via leaks on the congressional investigators
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who are uncovering much of this. This is unreal. This is unreal.
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Gowdy said, quote, I would have a lot more respect for DOJ or House Committee Democrats
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if they would take out their frustrations on members of Congress and leave staffers alone.
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We, the members, make the final decision and are responsible for them, not our staffers.
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Attacking staffers, planning false stories, and endangering national security by leaking
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sensitive information in the press, including information about intelligence sources.
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This is what the DOJ is doing. And this is why trust in the DOJ is rapidly eroding in Congress,
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said Devin Nunez. Our country is in a constitutional crisis and a crisis of confidence with federal law
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enforcement like it has never been in. Since its creation, 242 years ago.
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This is as bad as it gets. As bad as it gets. This needs to be shut down.
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Mueller needs to be under investigation. We need a second special counsel and we need Jeff Sessions
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to stop in now. Step in now. Stop this nonsense. Because our entire, our entire system is being
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perverted. This is beyond bad, beyond bad, and it needs to end today.
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My mind is blown by all this new information about Robert Mueller's impropriety, conflicts of
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interest. So I had to bring in somebody to help me make sense of it all and calm me down. I'm
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bringing in my good friend, Patrick Halley, editor-in-chief of Big League Politics. Patrick
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had a massive win recently alongside Judicial Watch when they helped uncover those allegedly,
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supposedly, but not really lost, Hillary emails. Patrick, thanks for being here this morning.
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I always love when you come on because of that picturesque background. You guys were sitting
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on a mountain somewhere, like men of leisure over there at Big League.
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That's right. That's what we've tried to do here. It's not a cult, though. We're not a cult.
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Just have the compound, but a lot of Rolls Royces and the high fences, right?
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All right. So we've got this new information on Mueller. Really, really disturbing. It turns out
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that we now have even more proof of collusion with the Russians, now on the part of Robert Mueller
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with Oleg Deripaska. Now, we've been hearing from the left, from the never-Trumpers, that Oleg
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Deripaska is the linchpin. He's iron-glad proof that Donald Trump is colluding with Russia. Only
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Donald Trump sanctioned Oleg Deripaska. Now we find out Robert Mueller worked with him,
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and the agent who recruited Deripaska. This all goes back to the Robert Levinson case. Let me just
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explain to the audience. 2007, a retired FBI agent named Robert Levinson was working for the CIA
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inside Iran, presumably stiffed around their nuclear programs. Iranians found him. Levinson is taken
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hostage in 2009. Eleven years later, we still don't know where Levinson is. We got proof of life around
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2009, 2010. Since then, not a word, nothing on the radar. He's either dead or on ice in an Iranian
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prison. It's unfortunate. But around 2009, none other, Patrick, than Andrew McCabe, and it always
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comes back to McCabe, recruits Deripaska to spend $25 million of his own money. The guy's an aluminum
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billionaire oligarch. $25 million of his own money to launch a search and rescue effort for Levinson.
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They're successful. They get a ransom deal in 2010. State Department allegedly squashes it. They don't
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like the terms. But now we have ironclad proof because Deripaska confirmed the story. His lawyer
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confirmed the story. Levinson family confirmed the story. And the FBI agent around the case confirmed
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the story. We have ironclad proof that Deripaska worked for Robert Mueller and the FBI. And Mueller
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never disclosed this. Not only did he work for the FBI, but he actually told them very early on that
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there was no collusion between Trump and Russia. And they wouldn't take him seriously. They said,
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keep an open mind. Right, right. And now what bothers me is why would Deripaska put $25 million
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for the FBI? What did McCabe and Mueller have on him? Russian oligarchs aren't known for being
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generous with the United States. Well, you know, beginning in 2016, during the campaign, right around
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the time of the convention in Cleveland, there were a lot of sort of SIOP efforts going on
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and people being sent in to be near the Trump campaign. Of course, he had just won the Republican
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nomination. And so there were a lot of people that were hanging out. It was a scene, man. Yeah. Yeah.
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But, you know, they sent in like some of these Russians, I think, like you've got this guy,
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Papadopoulos, and I'm not entirely sure where he's from, but he was being surveilled by the FBI at all
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times. We reported that at all times. He was under FBI surveillance. There's no way he didn't know
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about that. It wasn't complicit. And so there are a few other people, too, that were spying for the
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FBI. Well, you know, you know, it's interesting. Quick side note. So I'm down in D.C. last week and
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I I'm not a conspiratorial guy at all. And I'm sitting with a friend of mine who's pretty senior
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federal agent. He's run intelligence groups in his respective agency. And we were blown away by the
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amount of Iranians at the Trump Hotel bar and many of them really attractive women flirting with
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guys who appeared to be relatively significant in federal service. And I looked at him. I said,
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this is what we think it is. And he goes, I think this is what we think it is. I mean,
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one after the other. I go to Trump. I stay at Trump, but I'm in D.C. I go to that bar too often. I know
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the bartenders. I've never seen that many Iranians who were gorgeous women at the bar. That's not
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coincidence in light of what's going on. No. And John Kerry was just meeting with some
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Iranians. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. That was a whole nother nightmare. So we've got this situation now
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where we find this this conflict of interest between Mueller and this Russian oligarch. We
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know McCabe recruited this guy. Where is Jeff Sessions? You've been on this story every day. I've
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got to cover a multitude of stories being on air. You've been pretty laser focused. Big
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League does as well, but you guys have done exceptional work. You've been very laser focused
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on Mueller and Hillary. What in the world is going on with Jeff Sessions? Well, we do not
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take a side in the arguments between the Q followers who believe that Jeff Sessions is good
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in playing 40 chess, as Larry Schweikart argues on our site, or the people who say that Jeff Sessions
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is terrible. And he's in the swamp with Rod Rosenstein. So we have both points of view.
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And which one do you think you're a good investigative reporter? I happen to one holes
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water. I happen to think that if President Donald Trump wanted a different attorney general, he could
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get a different attorney general, considering that he's been longtime friends with Jeff Sessions.
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So that tells me right there that since Sessions was not one of the numerous ones that got fired,
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there is something to Jeff Sessions. Let me tell you something. And I'll say this,
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and I haven't said it on the show. I have been incredibly critical of Jeff Sessions. I still am
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incredibly critical of Jeff Sessions. But I had somebody incredibly close to the administration
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tell me last week, lay off Sessions, there's something going on. And it's somebody who has been
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incredibly critical of Sessions, who's very, who's at the White House often, who said there's a lot
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more going on here. Things are going to start happening, lay off Sessions. So I've been
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a little less critical of Sessions. I haven't backed off my criticism because I still believe in optics
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and messaging. And the public needs red meat. The base needs a little bit of red meat. Give them
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something. Something. A charge McCain. Do something. But I have to tell you, I was shocked when I got the
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phone call asking me to lay off Sessions by this particular person. Well, you know, Sessions is a
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smart guy. I happen to think the fact that he recused himself in the case is one of the greatest
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blunders of political strategy ever in history. I can't see any other way where him recusing himself
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was a good thing. However, Trump hasn't fired him. So he must be doing. Well, I think he recused
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himself because early on, I think Sessions trusted the process and he went to Rosenstein, who I believe is
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a bad actor. And Rosenstein said, you should recuse yourself and Sessions recused himself.
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And his biggest mistake was trusting the process. But he existed in it for 30 some odd years. How
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many years as a senator? So he, you know, listen, I don't care how smart you are when you've been
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trained and you have muscle memory over so many years. Patrick, you still with us? I thought we,
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oh, there we go. We had a little glitch in your audio and video. But when you've been trained so many
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years to do things a certain way and follow protocol, I think it's very difficult to deviate from that
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your first week on a new job. Yeah, well, he shouldn't have been attorney general then.
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That was a terrible position for him. That's where we agree. That's where we wholeheartedly agree.
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All right. But let's talk about this new revelation because it goes to some of the
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things you're investigating on. We've got this new agent, Joe Pienka, not a new agent. He was one
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of the agents in the room with Peter Stroke when General McCabe, when General Flynn, oh my God,
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I can't believe I said that. When General Flynn was interviewed, a guy that Andrew McCabe hated because
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of the case with Agent Robin Gritz, who McCabe was trying to force out of the bureau and General
00:24:43.060
Flynn went to bat for her. You've got Stroke and Pienka in General Flynn's office interviewing him.
00:24:48.540
General Flynn thinks it's a routine meeting with the FBI as national security advisor.
00:24:52.620
Both of the agents, even Stroke, who despised Donald Trump and Pienka, didn't believe that
00:24:58.960
General Flynn lied. They thought he was being truthful. Why do you think Pienka's been on ice
00:25:03.200
that we haven't heard his name? One of two reasons, in my opinion. He's either complicit and
00:25:07.480
Mueller kept him on ice to avoid this problem, or he's cooperating with the OIG because he doesn't
00:25:12.340
want to go out the way McCabe did. Well, I think either one of those sounds possible.
00:25:19.660
You know, General Flynn did not do anything wrong, by the way. And this has come out now that even the
00:25:25.500
FBI admitted they had nothing on him. And Mueller keeps pushing back Flynn's sentencing. So why does
00:25:34.020
he keep pushing back Flynn's sentencing if Flynn has already pleaded guilty? Why does he keep delaying
00:25:39.900
it? Well, this is all just politics. Well, I think he's delaying it because Flynn's lawyers are
00:25:44.040
delaying it because they know they didn't get exculpatory evidence that they had. They had
00:25:48.660
that exculpatory evidence. They never would have taken that plea. I think Mueller is agreeing because
00:25:53.560
he doesn't want a public showdown where the judge turns around and says, Mr. Mueller, you better take
00:25:58.140
this delay. You better agree to their motion or I'm going to dismiss this case outright.
00:26:01.400
Right. You withhold exculpatory evidence. And I think Mueller thinks if he can push it and push
00:26:05.940
it and push it and push it, that one day the case will just quietly go away and the judge will
00:26:10.460
quietly dismiss it when this drops in the news cycle, because this is a public embarrassment
00:26:15.060
to Robert Mueller and it would require his whole investigation being shut down.
00:26:19.200
Well, they're just trying to take out all these administration guys. And by the way,
00:26:23.280
Anthony Scaramucci is next. The mooch. You think so? And the mooch. No, no, I'm kidding. I'm
00:26:30.300
kidding. I was like, wait, did he listen? Anthony Scaramucci's hair is so glorious. It gets him out of
00:26:34.560
any problem. He gets a pass. He gets a pass because of that. I wish he looks like Secretariat,
00:26:40.600
like a glorious racehorse. It's just not. It's amazing. But no, but we're serious. So you got this
00:26:46.580
agent, Pienka. And in any investigation on the planet, if two law enforcement guys, let alone
00:26:53.960
two senior FBI agents, went to a prosecutor and said, we don't believe this person lied.
00:26:58.760
James Comey loves to say, Patrick, no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute that case. It just
00:27:04.620
wouldn't happen. Yes. And in fact, we have a big story today about James Comey. James Comey
00:27:11.080
allowed this Columbia law professor, Daniel Richmond, to look at the servers and access classified
00:27:18.180
information. And then this Daniel Richmond person was the person who actually leaked the classified
00:27:21.980
information. And now we have evidence. And the woman is on the record. She's a partner at the law
00:27:29.260
firm that Natalie Veselkaya had her meeting at. Yes. And he and she lives in the same apartment
00:27:36.980
building with Daniel Richmond. And they spoke during this period. And what did he tell her?
00:27:44.140
She won't say. But obviously, you know, they were talking and this was all just a coordinated effort.
00:27:50.420
So this so Comey. So with this woman's non-testimony, but her acknowledgement that she spoke with
00:27:56.440
Richmond seems to indicate is that Comey was part of this conspiracy, let's call it, to get Veselkaya
00:28:05.280
into Trump Tower to make it look like the Trump campaign was doing something wrong.
00:28:09.800
Yes, that's right. And meanwhile, Peter Comey, James Comey's brother, is a top executive at DLA Piper,
00:28:15.360
which performed the independent audit of the Clinton Foundation around this very same time.
00:28:20.200
Yeah, it's all very incestuous. And as we know, one of the former Comey,
00:28:25.920
Baller McCabe cronies, his name escapes me right now, but he was the head of CrowdStrike,
00:28:30.360
which was funded exclusively by Tim Geithner and Eric Schmidt from Google to Hillary Clinton allies.
00:28:36.240
They were the only entity on the planet allowed to look at the DNC server, even the FBI wasn't.
00:28:40.440
And CrowdStrike without oversight or independent audit or law enforcement review determined it was
00:28:45.100
a hack, not an internal breach. I mean, all of this is really incestuous, really dirty and begs
00:28:51.060
a lot of questions. But is there anyone willing to ask them? Now, you've been digging into this.
00:28:56.000
What do you make of Christopher Wray? Good actor, bad actor, indifferent, afraid to fight the swamp?
00:29:03.540
You see, I can't get a read on Wray. Why do you think he's a bad actor?
00:29:07.020
I mean, that's just what I've heard. You know, he obviously is not doing anything to help
00:29:11.280
Trump or help our democracy get healed after this horrible process.
00:29:15.540
But I think this is coming to an end. I think that when you have this story about the spies inside
00:29:23.260
the Trump campaign and all the things that James Comey did with the classified leaks and you have
00:29:29.440
Mueller with the uranium and now a relationship with Deripaska of all people could have been any
00:29:35.320
oligarch, but it's Deripaska. It's got to come to an end. How do you keep it going? But here's what
00:29:41.400
bothers me. The media won't fight hard enough. No, the media is never going to fight. But if Jeff
00:29:45.460
Sessions is a good actor, why is he allowing DOJ, which he runs, to still stonewall Congress on the
00:29:50.740
release of documents? With one phone call, he can call the president and say, Mr. President,
00:29:55.440
declassify it all. I'm going to release it. Boom. Or Jeff Sessions could call Wray and say,
00:30:02.720
Yes. And maybe this is the test. If he doesn't do this soon, then he should be fired.
00:30:09.020
All right. So what should we be looking for? As you dig into these stories,
00:30:12.480
what should the public be looking at? What angle are they not looking at that they should be?
00:30:17.520
You know, I think just the fact that so many FISA courts were violated and so many laws were broken
00:30:27.100
as these people put together these dossiers and worked with foreign intelligence to covertly get
00:30:32.840
information. And it was all wrong. And it was just this awful thing that happened in our FBI and
00:30:40.800
our intelligence agencies with these people on their way out doing these nasty, horrible things.
00:30:46.140
And I think people are really sick by it. And they see President Donald Trump as the champion,
00:30:50.560
the victim of this. But he's not a victim because he's fighting. And, you know, I think they're
00:30:55.560
rallying around him. We have the majority of the country now supporting President Donald Trump.
00:30:59.540
So we do. I think if Trump wins this, this is this is going to be pretty historic. And then he's
00:31:04.640
going to be able to really govern. Can you imagine what this guy could have done if he was able to
00:31:08.780
actually govern the country? It would be incredible. Even The Washington Post ran a story today where
00:31:13.340
Democrats are saying not so fast about this blue wave. Trump is pretty damn popular. I think we might
00:31:18.240
be in for a little rude awakening here as as as these. Well, obviously, for GDP is going to be
00:31:26.360
pretty bad for the Republicans. I'm seeing a blue wave. Are you really? No. Yeah, I'm going to say
00:31:31.140
most Democrats don't even know when a midterm election is happening. No, they really don't.
00:31:37.700
And, you know, I was talking to the chairman of the 2014. We dominated them. Talking to the
00:31:42.640
chairman of the Virginia GOP yesterday. And he made a good point. I was on a phone call with him and a
00:31:46.420
couple of people. And he said, today's Democratic Party reminds him of the Republican ticket in 96,
00:31:50.800
Dole Kemp. Unexciting, solid establishment, nothing to offer, nothing new, nothing fresh,
00:31:56.960
going up against Bill Clinton, like larger than life Bill Clinton. Right. And it was a really I
00:32:01.580
thought he drew a really good parallel, a really good comparison with that. I think the Democrats
00:32:05.580
are in are in really big trouble. Right. I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you. So there was another
00:32:10.240
dump of emails. March 30th, work you did alongside Judicial Watch that you uncovered, Hillary's
00:32:16.140
emails. The really big tranche, the one we're all waiting for, September 28th, 2018. Did we learn
00:32:22.460
anything new about the March 30th tranche of emails since we last spoke? Was anything earth shattering
00:32:28.580
in there? Anything interesting in there? Yes. Obviously, you have, you know, Hillary Clinton
00:32:33.900
talking to a whole lot of people in the Middle East, including in Iran during this period. She's
00:32:39.880
supporting, you know, that this has proven now that she supported the Al Qaeda group that became
00:32:45.980
ISIS, Al Qaeda in Iraq. The Washington Post. In those emails. Everything called me crazy
00:32:51.160
when I first said that. And I was. Patrick, Patrick, back up, back up. So in those emails
00:32:55.680
released on March 30th, the communications between Hillary and actors in the Middle East
00:33:00.220
that eventually morphed into or assisted ISIS, those communications were within that tranche
00:33:06.000
of emails. It is clear that there is more evidence, yes, that Hillary Clinton did, in fact,
00:33:12.660
organize and offer active support to Al Qaeda in Iraq. Now, was any of this. Which became ISIS.
00:33:22.060
Was any of this done through Benghazi? Is there any tie to Benghazi there and why you try? Yes.
00:33:28.400
Because that was so that was a weapons running. They were gun running. They they had sold so many
00:33:33.720
weapons to the Al Qaeda groups in Libya that they needed to set up that consulate to go and try to buy
00:33:39.320
back some of the weapons. So they were sent in on a covert mission and they got tipped off to it
00:33:46.100
because Hillary Clinton was putting the ambassador Stevens's location all over her private email
00:33:52.380
server, which was breached in the Middle East right before this happened. This is this is so bad.
00:33:57.840
This is absolutely, absolutely terrible. So they're going through these emails, right?
00:34:02.580
These emails. How many were released in the last tranche?
00:34:07.080
A few more thousand. Have they all been sorted through or that might might we still find some
00:34:11.420
interesting things out here? No, they haven't. They're there's, you know, still being looked
00:34:16.220
through. Who has them right now? Judicial Watch. Yeah. And they're released as well.
00:34:21.000
They are. Where can the public find them if they want to take a look?
00:34:24.080
We will put them up on our site. Oh, you will. So they'll be on big lead politics.
00:34:27.320
Yes. Yes. All right. Great. So what we'll do is we'll when are you going to put those up?
00:34:32.520
So I want to have you back on right after you do. I'll put them up today. Oh, you will. All right.
00:34:36.620
So let's plan on having you back next week after you've had time to run through them. Let's talk
00:34:40.800
about some new revelations, if any. Absolutely. All right. Patrick Howley, editor in chief,
00:34:46.540
big lead politics. It's a great time, John. You're very clandestine today. You're very,
00:34:50.640
very cryptic, very secretive. I feel like you're waiting for the black helicopters to come get you.
00:34:55.280
Not at all. Not at all. We are. I think we're winning. We're doing very well.
00:35:01.260
Well, and I think people are really happy about it. All right. Sounds good, man. We'll have you
00:35:06.280
back on next week. Patrick Howley, editor in chief, big lead politics. Thanks. Thank you.
00:35:10.040
Turkey, you know, our wonderful NATO ally, Turkey, whose leader Erdogan comes to the United States
00:35:26.820
and has his security detail beat up Americans. You know that Turkey, the Turkey we're supposed to
00:35:31.660
still tolerate. Well, after the United States did the right thing, something that should have been
00:35:38.180
done decades ago, something that was recognized in 1995. Of course, I mean, Jerusalem is the capital
00:35:43.420
of Israel. And after Donald Trump, the only president with the guts, accelerated the move
00:35:48.800
of the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem and opened the embassy this week. Well, Turkey recalled its ambassadors
00:35:54.740
to the United States and Israel over the move. CNN ran a story here and CNN must be loving this.
00:36:01.100
They must love it. They love everybody who hates the United States. The Turkey, let me read part of
00:36:05.760
this. Turkey is recalling its ambassadors to the U.S. and Israel in an official protest of the Trump
00:36:11.040
administration's decision to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Now, like I said, CNN must be
00:36:21.320
loving it. Erdogan said Monday that the United States decision to move its embassy to Jerusalem
00:36:25.200
from Tel Aviv shows that the U.S. prefers to become part of the problem rather than the solution, end
00:36:30.840
quote. No, Erdogan, no. We are just sick of being held hostage by Hamas. The embassy should have been
00:36:39.260
in Jerusalem decades ago, and no one had the guts to do it because they were terrified of Hamas
00:36:44.700
terrorists in Gaza. Trump is not. He understands the Reagan doctrine of peace through strength,
00:36:52.660
peace through superior firepower, and it's not even mutually assured destruction anymore.
00:36:57.320
Our military is rebuilding. We're producing oil and gas. It's, it's, we can assure you,
00:37:03.440
we will destroy you. No longer mutually assured destruction. It's, be sure the U.S. will destroy
00:37:08.780
you. And the world is much safer and much more stable as a result. When you look back at what
00:37:16.040
Obama did to this world, I want to, it gets me sick. Erdogan also said, quote, with his latest step
00:37:22.880
in the embassy move, the United States has lost its role as mediator in the Middle East peace process,
00:37:28.160
end quote. He means doormat. He spelt doormat wrong. He spelt appeaser wrong. That was all we were
00:37:35.620
under Obama. We were appeasing doormats for Hamas. The Muslims said, jump. And Obama said,
00:37:41.460
how high? And that was all it was about. Erdogan also went on to say that the move is, quote,
00:37:46.600
a most unfortunate decision to execute. We once again, regret this decision that violates
00:37:52.220
international law, end quote. Now, that is about the dumbest comment I've ever heard. The United States
00:37:58.720
choosing to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, something that we did via congressional
00:38:05.020
approval back in 95, something Israel recognizes, violates international law. Now, apparently,
00:38:11.280
according to Erdogan and the Muslims, two sovereign nations are not allowed to decide where the
00:38:15.000
capital of one of those nations is. The international community has to do it. Well, no,
00:38:19.000
they don't. And that's what has guys like Erdogan, a nervous wreck that Trump and Netanyahu
00:38:24.180
couldn't care less about the globalists who appease Muslims and third world dictators in whole
00:38:28.960
countries. Too bad. So sad. During his remarks in London, Erdogan was also quoted by Andalou,
00:38:35.840
Turkish state media, as saying, quote, Israel is a terrorist state, end quote, end quote. What
00:38:41.340
Israel is doing is a genocide, end quote. Now, he's talking about the 55 Palestinians. Oh, I mean,
00:38:46.940
Hamas terrorists killed in Gaza. 2,700 injured. Well, I'll tell you what, don't allow, don't allow
00:38:54.620
Hamas terrorists to stir you up. This is ridiculous. This is so ridiculous. I was speaking to somebody,
00:39:02.400
a former Israeli consul general yesterday. And he said to me, I said, what's going on over there?
00:39:10.260
And he said, Hamas is stirring up unrest in Gaza. They've got 30,000, 40,000 people running around
00:39:15.000
because they have Hamas terror cells trying to make incursions into Israel and other places.
00:39:20.320
He said, wait a minute. Is this a big diversion? He said, yep. It's what they do. It's their MO. Our
00:39:25.680
intelligence has done that for years. And that's why the IDF, the Israeli Defense Force, is killing
00:39:29.540
these guys in other places along the strip. Needs to be done. Very simple. If Hamas terrorists stop
00:39:37.200
trying to kill Israelis, if Hamas terrorists stop trying to get into Israel, presumably to go bomb
00:39:41.760
things in Jerusalem during the celebrations, the IDF wouldn't be killing Hamas terrorists.
00:39:47.320
Palestinians wouldn't be injured. Really, really very simple. Now, the only reason there's unrest
00:39:53.220
is because guys like Bill Clinton and George W. Bush and Barack Obama, especially Barack Obama,
00:40:01.080
well, they kept ceding ground to Hamas and Gaza. Hamas never should have been given Gaza. It's not
00:40:07.580
the Palestinians who got Gaza. Let's make no mistake about this. It is Hamas. It is Hamas.
00:40:13.460
Now, Hezbollah has been relatively quiet over there in Lebanon, but with an emboldened Iran. Oh,
00:40:17.920
my God. If Hillary Clinton were president of the United States, if Hillary Clinton were president of
00:40:22.220
the United States, Israel would be in serious jeopardy of an invasion of mass casualty incident.
00:40:28.560
But Hezbollah is relatively quiet. We don't know if they're going to be reactivated. They're right
00:40:31.620
there. They're a puppet of Iran. Hamas and Iran are very close. It's really,
00:40:35.960
by the grace of God, literally, maybe, that those two haven't decided to cooperate militarily yet.
00:40:44.920
But I think it's because Hezbollah wants to legitimize themselves a bit more in Lebanon.
00:40:51.540
Kind of like when, you know, mob, the mob, wise guys decide to go legit. And so they stop leaving
00:40:57.580
bodies on the street to create that illusion of legitimacy for a little while. Don't worry.
00:41:03.500
They'll go back to their old ways. But at least we have a stronger United States
00:41:07.480
and a rock solid U.S.-Israel alliance to squash that very, very quickly.
00:41:12.660
So Benjamin Netanyahu wasted no time responding to Erdogan.
00:41:16.880
Erdogan made that comment. And Netanyahu took to Twitter this morning.
00:41:22.720
Erdogan is among Hamas's biggest supporters, and there is no doubt that he will understand
00:41:27.260
terrorism and slaughter. I suggest that he not preach morality to us.
00:41:32.160
I do not disagree with the word Benjamin Netanyahu says. I rarely do. He's a brilliant guy.
00:41:39.240
Tough as nails. He really is Donald Trump. They're very much the same guy. That's why this
00:41:45.500
alliance terrifies the world. That's why this alliance terrifies the globalists.
00:41:50.160
But I've got to tell you, I am very, very concerned about Turkey. Now, we have strategic assets in
00:41:59.540
Turkey. We have an air base in Turkey. Turkey is strategically located, still a member of NATO.
00:42:07.740
We sell arms to Israel as well. But because of the NATO alliance,
00:42:11.320
I'm very uncomfortable with the level of military cooperation we have with Turkey.
00:42:16.300
The Kurds have been some of our best assets against the terrorists. Turkey hates the Kurds.
00:42:21.780
They would love to kill every last one of them. But then again, Turkey did help us grab up these
00:42:26.200
five ISIS fighters last week. And so it's a really odd relationship. Jordan, to me anyway,
00:42:33.120
is a much more stable, predictable, and friendly coalition partner. And Jordan, as a coalition
00:42:40.080
partner, understand something else Donald Trump has done. Donald Trump has created a coalition with
00:42:44.520
Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Muslim nations. Israel is part of that coalition, and they're seeing Israel as an
00:42:51.720
equal. That is the massive foreign policy win for the Trump administration. It's not being underreported.
00:43:02.100
Nobody, even right-wing media, really isn't reporting it. Donald Trump got nations like Jordan and Saudi
00:43:09.560
Arabia to accept Israel as an equal partner in a coalition against Middle East aggression.
00:43:16.020
That's what's terrifying Turkey. Turkey can no longer play these games. And I'm so glad Netanyahu
00:43:22.360
called out Erdogan, but I think we really need to be very vigilant about this. We need to stay on top
00:43:28.360
of this, because I don't predict that Erdogan is going to, anytime soon, turn into a nice guy.
00:43:35.120
Turkey. I predict that this is going to be much more of the same, that we're going to be dealing
00:43:39.340
with a very bad actor in Turkey. He's becoming much more radical. Turkey is becoming much less
00:43:44.500
secular. And I really don't think it's that much of a stretch for Turkey to start to look a lot like
00:43:52.780
Iran in the short term. Something we really need to keep an eye out.
00:43:56.080
The left Democrats in particular are up in arms over a question on the 2020 census that asks the
00:44:13.600
audacious question as to whether or not people are citizens. Of course they are, because they want
00:44:19.160
illegal aliens to be able to vote en masse and to turn this country blue irrevocably. Now, this is from
00:44:25.100
Newsmax, a 2020, excuse me, U.S. Census citizenship question could water down the population count and
00:44:31.820
other important data critics. But federal officials say the information is needed to ensure voting
00:44:38.100
accuracy. The latter part of that statement is very true, because if you don't know how
00:44:42.780
gerrymandering works, districting for congressional districts, it's all based on census and population
00:44:49.500
apportionment. The more population in a certain area, the congressional districts, the more congressional
00:44:55.920
districts. In other words, they try to apportion congressional districts based on a percentage of that state's
00:45:01.520
population. So if, say, the each state is entitled to X percent of their population getting a congressional
00:45:10.180
district, well, the denser population areas, the area around cities will have more districts. But if it turns out that a
00:45:17.280
large portion of the people in that area can't vote because they're not citizens, well, district grows.
00:45:23.220
So you might have one district covering that area instead of two. You might have one less member of
00:45:27.380
Congress and will put other districts in areas that are more dense with citizens. Well, critics don't like
00:45:35.680
that because this would eliminate representation of illegal aliens, which it should because they're not
00:45:42.420
citizens. That's what they're afraid of. So if you didn't understand what all the the hysteria was
00:45:48.260
about this, that's what it's about. Well, critics are trying to say no. It's trying to delegitimize those
00:45:56.420
who aren't citizens. And for purposes of the U.S. Census, when it comes to gerrymandering and congressional
00:46:01.720
apportionment, it should is that portion of the census is reserved for voters. Now, Commerce Secretary
00:46:09.400
Ross is telling everybody to calm down. He says the move doesn't mean, quote, unquote, the sky will fall.
00:46:18.880
Excuse me. He also says that, quote, 61 million families have already been exposed to the question
00:46:23.040
and the sky is not falling. Well, I don't think the sky will fall when we add it to the census itself in 2020.
00:46:28.980
Now, the citizenship question will be the last one on the census form. And Commerce Secretary Ross says, quote,
00:46:35.360
so that someone who, for whatever reason, feels uncomfortable with that question, at least they can
00:46:39.760
deal easily with the questions with which they are not uncomfortable. In other words, if you don't
00:46:45.280
like the question, don't answer it. Don't answer it. And answer all the other ones first that we need to
00:46:53.720
know for demographic data. And if you don't like it, don't answer it. But if you don't answer it and you
00:46:58.200
are a citizen, you might not get congressional representation. If you don't answer it and you're not
00:47:02.320
a citizen, they'll be it. Commerce Department's going to spend about half a billion dollars on
00:47:07.600
advertising the census. And the secretary says that people don't have to worry about their privacy
00:47:12.620
being abused. But he said, we're also taking extreme measures for cybersecurity so that we can
00:47:17.940
try to protect as best one can against intrusions there. Now, 17 states are suing commerce and the
00:47:25.580
Census Bureau over the change. It did draw lots of opposition, Secretary Ross said. It also drew lots of
00:47:31.480
support. It's not a novel question. He's 100 percent right. This question is critical. So again,
00:47:37.140
to explain why we do this, if you don't understand how these things work, firm gerrymandering means
00:47:43.100
assigning boundaries of a congressional district and deciding how many districts there are. And
00:47:50.120
gerrymandering now is used more commonly when districts have changed, been accused of Democrats
00:47:54.560
trying to do this to pick up seats in Congress. And there's some weight to that because these lawsuits
00:48:01.120
one of the lead attorneys on these lawsuits, both for the census question and the gerrymandering
00:48:06.040
that you're seeing around the country, most notably in Pennsylvania, is none other than
00:48:09.800
former Attorney General Eric Holder, a guy so far left, he falls off San Francisco when he wakes up in
00:48:14.780
the morning. So again, here's how it works. You have a state. That state has X number of people in the
00:48:21.480
population. And that population is broken down. And the state says, OK, a congressional district is made up
00:48:28.760
of this many of those people. For argument's sake, if a state has three million people and they say
00:48:35.360
a congressional district is made up of 300,000 people, the state will have 10 congressional districts.
00:48:39.920
There'll be 10 representatives from Congress to that state. Now, if the state has a few small cities
00:48:47.800
and rural farm and ranch land, well, the majority of those 10 districts are probably going to be
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around those cities and cities tend to be blue. However, if a good portion of those people in those
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cities answer, we are not citizens or don't answer, but everybody in the more rural areas answer,
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we are citizens. Well, then that might shift a little bit. So those urban areas might get seven
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congressional districts, and those rural areas might get three or six and four. And so it shifts
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back a little bit red. That's why Democrats are terrified of this question, because there's a lot
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of ways you can commit voter fraud. It doesn't have to be at the ballot box. Another way, in a very hidden
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way, until the Trump administration, Secretary Ross, was to assign congressional districts to areas with
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large illegal alien populations. And then there'd be very small turnout of citizens who would vote
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predominantly Democrat. This is another way to stop silent voter fraud via census fraud, via apportionment
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fraud, via fraudulent gerrymandering. And I think this question is not just not a novel question,
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as the secretary says, I think this is arguably the most important question on the upcoming 2020 census.