Rebel News Podcast - Off The Cuff Declassified - John Cardillo - May 15⧸2018

00:00:00.000 Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, Robert Mueller's conflicts of interest grow,

00:00:04.900 this time with a Russian oligarch. Patrick Howley, editor-in-chief of Big League Politics,

00:00:09.700 joins me to discuss that and new discoveries in Hillary's previously lost emails. Turkey's

00:00:16.820 Erdogan is recalling Turkish ambassadors to the United States and Israel, and Benjamin Netanyahu

00:00:21.740 had some pretty harsh words after it happened. And the left is still hysterical over a

00:00:29.740 citizenship question on the next U.S. Census. But Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross tells them to calm

00:00:35.680 down. Robert Mueller is falsely accusing President Donald Trump of colluding with Russia,

00:00:46.100 but there's new ironclad proof that Robert Mueller and Andrew McCabe colluded with Russia. A new story

00:00:53.660 from the Hill, then repurposed and enhanced by Newsmax, really is, honestly, just blowing my

00:01:00.120 mind. It's blowing my mind. Back in 2007, go back to 2007, a guy named Robert Levinson, a retired FBI

00:01:07.940 agent, was working for the CIA on contract, gathering intelligence inside Iran. He disappeared,

00:01:15.320 presumably kidnapped. We really don't know what happened to the guy. He might be dead. He might be

00:01:19.660 on ice in some prison somewhere. And Levinson was presumably, the conventional wisdom is that

00:01:28.120 Levinson was out there snooping around Kish Island and Karg Island, where it was rumored that Iran was

00:01:33.320 playing with nuclear weapons, which we now know to be true, right? We now know from Benjamin Netanyahu,

00:01:39.120 Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu's press conference a few weeks ago, his disclosures to the world, the Mossad

00:01:43.780 operation, that yielded 105,000 new files, that Iran never stopped Project Ahmad. They just changed the names,

00:01:51.900 which was its nuclear weapons program, its nuclear material enrichment program for weaponization. So we know

00:01:57.300 that was the case. What probably happened, I don't know, but you don't have to be a master salute to figure it

00:02:04.320 out, is that Levinson found something. The Iranians then found Levinson, and the rest, unfortunately, is very bad 0.80

00:02:11.820 history. So in 2009, while Mueller was FBI director, he asked Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska,

00:02:20.760 name you know, because it's long been alleged that Deripaska is the Russian mastermind, the Putin buddy,

00:02:27.620 behind bribing Donald Trump and making him a Russian asset and a Russian puppet. Here's the problem.

00:02:33.220 The Trump administration has sanctioned Deripaska's companies with some pretty,

00:02:38.200 pretty robust sanctions. Okay. Mueller hired Deripaska. But wait, the FBI didn't pay Deripaska.

00:02:47.540 The FBI asked Deripaska to use millions of his own money. The guy's a billionaire, made billions in

00:02:53.360 aluminum. They asked him to use millions of his own money to help find Levinson. So Robert Mueller

00:03:01.140 had this longtime relationship with Deripaska, an eight year relationship, working relationship with

00:03:09.800 Deripaska before Mueller came on to the role of special counsel. This is filthy. This is filthy

00:03:19.280 because then Mueller's office leaks and floats that Trump is in bed with Deripaska. When Mueller was in

00:03:25.380 bed with Deripaska. Now, is it that's not bad enough? This whole thing gets worse.

00:03:29.500 Guess who the FBI agent was at the time who recruited Deripaska, who reached out to Oleg Deripaska

00:03:39.320 to get him to work with the FBI? Andrew McCabe. I said it here on the show. I don't know how many

00:03:46.440 times I've said it. I say it numerous times, numerous times, numerous times. It always comes back. It all

00:03:52.100 comes back. It'll always come back to Andrew McCabe, the dirtiest guy in the history of the FBI.

00:03:58.520 Filthy. Andrew McCabe. So now you've got Andrew McCabe recruiting Deripaska, Robert Mueller approving 0.99

00:04:04.020 the operation. Let me read you some pieces from this Hill opinion, some excerpts from this Hill

00:04:08.520 opinion piece. Now, this is written by John Solomon, great investigative reporter. If you don't know

00:04:12.760 Solomon's work, get to know it. Okay. In 2009, when Mueller ran the FBI, the Bureau asked Russian

00:04:19.340 oligarch, Oleg Deripaska to spend millions of his own dollars funding an FBI supervised operation

00:04:25.440 to rescue a retired FBI agent. As I mentioned, Robert Levinson captured in Iran while working for

00:04:30.820 the CIA. Levinson mission is confirmed by more than a dozen participants inside and outside the FBI,

00:04:38.860 including Deripaska, his lawyer, the Levinson family, and a retired FBI agent who supervised the case.

00:04:49.280 Mueller was kept apprised of the operation. These are not anonymous sources. Deripaska himself

00:04:56.180 said this happened. The Levinson family said it happened. Deripaska's lawyer said it happened.

00:05:03.480 A retired FBI agent said it happened. Mueller and McCabe never told anyone they had previous

00:05:12.240 relationships. This is really, I mean, this is earth shattering. Deripaska ultimately spent

00:05:22.660 $25 million assembling private search and rescue teams. And they worked with FBI contacts under FBI

00:05:29.820 supervision. And that's when we found out that Levinson was in fact alive. In 2010, they offered

00:05:37.920 the operation secure and offer a free Levinson. The deal was scuttled because the State Department

00:05:42.180 was uncomfortable with Iran's terms. Now, Robin Gritz, the FBI agent who McCabe sidelined,

00:05:51.080 she worked on this case. She knew Bob Levinson. And I know Robin Gritz. We've spoken offline. And from

00:05:56.400 what she's told me, that she told me I can disclose, McCabe is a horrible, horrible human 1.00

00:06:00.420 being. General Flynn went to bat for her. Mueller and McCabe also railroaded General Flynn. And this 0.99

00:06:08.020 new evidence only goes to bolster General Flynn's case. We're going to be talking about some other

00:06:11.800 things that are going to help General Flynn as well. Let's talk about this first. Here's what

00:06:15.520 Robin said. Robin Gritz said, quote, we tried to turn over every stone we could to rescue Bob.

00:06:21.100 But every time we started to get close, the State Department always seemed to get in the way.

00:06:24.840 I kept Director Mueller and Deputy Director John Pistole informed of the various efforts and

00:06:32.460 operations. And they offered to intervene with State if necessary. Okay. Now, I wish we would

00:06:39.740 have rescued Levinson. He was a career FBI agent. He went to work for the CIA to keep the world safe

00:06:44.820 by spying on Iran. What happened to him is terrible. The operation was ended in 2011. And Levinson

00:06:52.740 was never found. It's been 11 years since Bob Levinson was kidnapped. And he's gone without a trace. We

00:06:58.900 have no idea where he is. He'd be dead, could be stuck in some Iranian prison on ice, never to see the

00:07:03.800 light of day because he just knows too much about what Iran did. And it was disgraceful that through 0.65

00:07:09.400 the whole Obama administration, we allowed this career FBI agent to rot in a prison because Obama's

00:07:14.440 State Department, remember this was Hillary Clinton and John Kerry's State Department, allowed this guy to rot

00:07:19.440 because what he knew was too tough on Iran and probably would have blown up the Iran deal.

00:07:24.060 That's what that was all about.

00:07:28.100 This is this is really, really bad.

00:07:30.080 What's even worse is that Mueller and McCabe never disclosed to the public, never disclosed

00:07:37.540 to ethics committees that they had a working relationship with Deripaska before trying to use

00:07:44.280 him as this linchpin to frame Donald Trump. Now, this comes on the heels of new information

00:07:52.660 about the second FBI agent involved in the interview of General Flynn. Agent's name, and you probably

00:08:02.320 haven't heard his name until recently, if you've heard it at all, is Joe Pientka, Special Agent Joe

00:08:06.780 Pientka. Joe Pientka was the agent alongside Peter Stroke who interviewed General Flynn in what really

00:08:12.440 should never have been an interview. They showed up at his White House office acting as if they were

00:08:16.780 interviewing the National Security Advisor, when in reality, they were there to trip the general up

00:08:23.020 and ultimately indict him and charge him on bogus process crimes. Now, full disclosure, I know General

00:08:28.560 Flynn. I've gotten to know the general very, very well. We speak. I know his son, Mike Flynn Jr.,

00:08:33.380 very well. He's a friend. I spent a couple of days with him last week. This family has been through

00:08:39.400 hell, and I believe that history will judge General Flynn very, very favorably. Very.

00:08:48.420 Chuck Grassley, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, is up in arms over this.

00:08:52.700 And in a story Sarah Carter did last week, we learn quite a bit. We learn that Joe Pientka

00:09:00.340 never felt General Flynn lied. He did not feel General Flynn lied. And he was described,

00:09:09.180 by the Congressional Committee, Senate Committee, as a non-partisan law enforcement officer.

00:09:17.800 The agent was on detail to the committee staff at the time. According to that agent's contemporaneous

00:09:23.000 notes, Director Comey specifically told us that briefing that the FBI agents who interviewed

00:09:28.700 General Michael Flynn, quote, saw nothing that led them to believe he was lying. Oh, actually,

00:09:34.320 I'm sorry. Yes, that was Joe Pientka. Had nothing to believe he was lying. So an agent who was present

00:09:45.080 for the General Flynn interview, who also spoke to Congress, provided his notes to Congress,

00:09:50.000 made it very clear to the Senate Judiciary Committee that he did not believe General Flynn was lying.

00:09:56.660 Now, this Sarah Carter, whose work has been impeccable, writes, quote, according to numerous law

00:10:05.740 enforcement officials I've spoken to over the past year, neither Stroke or Pientka believed Flynn was

00:10:11.740 lying during their interview with him. This is terrible, terrible. Another U.S. official who spoke on

00:10:22.000 background because they weren't authorized. But, quote, there's a lot of these agents, there's a lot

00:10:26.640 these agents can reveal about that day, the day that General Flynn was interviewed, and what former

00:10:32.140 FBI Director Andrew McCabe's role was in all of it. McCabe was apparently trying to find a reason,

00:10:36.940 any reason, to make it look like Flynn was lying. The truth of the matter is, no one thought he lied,

00:10:42.980 not even the agent who hated Trump, end quote. Now, had General Flynn's defense team had this

00:10:51.060 information before they took their plea. And make no mistake, the left is out there saying,

00:10:54.840 Flynn lied, he took a plea, he admitted he lied. No. General Flynn took a plea. This is not a wealthy

00:11:00.200 man. General Flynn took a plea because this was destroying his life. He couldn't afford the

00:11:06.500 soon-to-be insurmountable legal bills that he was incurring fighting these false allegations.

00:11:14.200 Too many people take pleas on these minor charges. Now, General Flynn was a man who served this

00:11:18.800 country for nearly 35 years honorably. He was prosecuted on a bogus process crime of

00:11:24.840 lying to federal investigators. General Flynn wasn't going to spend any time in jail, maybe

00:11:29.640 some lighthouse arrest. You take the plea. It's disgraceful. It's a terrible way to end an honorable

00:11:35.520 career. I believe justice will prevail here. This new evidence is incredibly relevant, exculpatory

00:11:41.500 evidence that Mueller withheld from General Flynn's defense team. No defendant on the planet would have

00:11:49.680 taken a plea if their lawyer was in possession of paperwork provided by the prosecution that said,

00:11:55.680 the two FBI agents who interviewed your client do not believe your client lied. We have no idea why

00:12:01.020 the special counsel charged your client because the agents wouldn't be able to testify in court that

00:12:06.120 they thought he lied. No, as James Comey liked to put it, reasonable prosecutor, whatever,

00:12:11.840 have tried the charge in that case. Robert Mueller did. And out of all the things that Robert Mueller

00:12:17.400 has done, even this newfound, massive conflict of interest with Russian oligarch, Oleg Deripaska,

00:12:25.960 out of all of those things he's done, this, this is the worst. Withholding exculpatory evidence

00:12:33.180 that the agents who actually sat with General Flynn felt he was being truthful.

00:12:39.740 I've never heard of anything worse than this. The police come in. They say, we do not believe

00:12:45.620 this person lied to us. And the prosecutors who weren't even in the room say, we don't care what

00:12:50.380 you think we're charging him anyway. I've never seen anything like it. I caught a guy with a gun in

00:12:58.080 his car and he was in the car with three other guys. And I didn't think the driver, I told you this

00:13:01.720 story before, had anything to do with it. He was kind of a nerdy kid from the neighborhood. I

00:13:04.920 thought he was afraid of the other three, driving them around under duress, turned out to be the

00:13:08.300 case. My partner and I had to put him in handcuffs. We immediately, I mean, within minutes, because the

00:13:14.740 holding cells in the Bronx were in the same building as the district attorney's offices. They

00:13:18.560 typically are in the courthouse. We went over there to the DA's office. We put this kid, excuse me,

00:13:25.260 in a holding cell. We told the corrections officer, we think this kid is innocent. We think he was

00:13:30.140 framed up, put him, segregate him, look out for him. We're going to try to get him out of here

00:13:35.140 right now. We're going to try to get us, make sure he's not put in there. I don't want to get this

00:13:38.580 kid beat up. I don't want him hurt. They said, got it done. They put him in a different cell. He was

00:13:42.860 safe. We went upstairs. We told the prosecutor, you know, the prosecutor said, great guys. I'm

00:13:47.880 going to, you guys were there. I wasn't there. He goes, I, cops do not come in and say this to me.

00:13:53.220 The mere fact that you guys, and you guys are active cops. And I know you guys, you're telling me,

00:13:56.680 you don't think this kid did it? That's good enough for me. Where is he? Downstairs in the

00:14:00.940 cell. All right, let me get my boss. Let's do some paperwork. Let's get him out of here

00:14:03.960 right away. And we did. We did. He was out in about 35 minutes. He was out in about 35 minutes.

00:14:10.720 Prosecutors voided that arrest. We had to make the arrest. It was the way the New York state law was

00:14:14.640 written. The prosecutors were able to refuse to prosecute and dismiss it and release him. We got that kid

00:14:21.100 out of there. Prosecutors don't go against law enforcement officers. It's unheard of, especially when

00:14:26.660 the prosecutor wasn't there. In my case, the exact, I remember it vividly. It was over 20 years ago.

00:14:30.800 He said, you guys were there. I wasn't. You talked to him. I didn't. I'm going with you guys. I mean,

00:14:35.600 in our conversation, I remember it so vividly. We didn't even sit down with him. We stood in the

00:14:39.560 doorway of his office and he popped up out of his chair and we told him in about 20 seconds to get

00:14:44.780 the paperwork going to get this kid who we all knew was innocent out of the cell. That's how this stuff

00:14:49.640 goes down. Okay. It doesn't go down like this where the, where, where a bias, agenda driven,

00:14:56.300 conflicted prosecutor on a witch hunt puts people in jail for no reason. This is as bad as it gets.

00:15:05.100 And on the heels of this, you now have Devin Nunez and Trey Gowdy, the Congressman accusing the

00:15:11.280 Department of Justice of launching anonymous attacks via leaks on the congressional investigators

00:15:17.580 who are uncovering much of this. This is unreal. This is unreal.

00:15:27.020 Gowdy said, quote, I would have a lot more respect for DOJ or House Committee Democrats

00:15:30.660 if they would take out their frustrations on members of Congress and leave staffers alone.

00:15:35.820 We, the members, make the final decision and are responsible for them, not our staffers.

00:15:42.120 Attacking staffers, planning false stories, and endangering national security by leaking

00:15:45.860 sensitive information in the press, including information about intelligence sources.

00:15:50.460 This is what the DOJ is doing. And this is why trust in the DOJ is rapidly eroding in Congress,

00:15:56.660 said Devin Nunez. Our country is in a constitutional crisis and a crisis of confidence with federal law

00:16:03.800 enforcement like it has never been in. Since its creation, 242 years ago.

00:16:11.260 This is as bad as it gets. As bad as it gets. This needs to be shut down.

00:16:20.320 Mueller needs to be under investigation. We need a second special counsel and we need Jeff Sessions

00:16:25.500 to stop in now. Step in now. Stop this nonsense. Because our entire, our entire system is being

00:16:35.460 perverted. This is beyond bad, beyond bad, and it needs to end today.

00:16:40.120 My mind is blown by all this new information about Robert Mueller's impropriety, conflicts of

00:16:55.740 interest. So I had to bring in somebody to help me make sense of it all and calm me down. I'm

00:16:59.600 bringing in my good friend, Patrick Halley, editor-in-chief of Big League Politics. Patrick

00:17:03.660 had a massive win recently alongside Judicial Watch when they helped uncover those allegedly,

00:17:10.700 supposedly, but not really lost, Hillary emails. Patrick, thanks for being here this morning.

00:17:15.040 I always love when you come on because of that picturesque background. You guys were sitting

00:17:19.260 on a mountain somewhere, like men of leisure over there at Big League.

00:17:23.200 That's right. That's what we've tried to do here. It's not a cult, though. We're not a cult.

00:17:28.480 Just have the compound, but a lot of Rolls Royces and the high fences, right?

00:17:31.400 All right. So we've got this new information on Mueller. Really, really disturbing. It turns out

00:17:39.360 that we now have even more proof of collusion with the Russians, now on the part of Robert Mueller

00:17:45.180 with Oleg Deripaska. Now, we've been hearing from the left, from the never-Trumpers, that Oleg

00:17:50.420 Deripaska is the linchpin. He's iron-glad proof that Donald Trump is colluding with Russia. Only

00:17:55.200 Donald Trump sanctioned Oleg Deripaska. Now we find out Robert Mueller worked with him,

00:18:00.300 and the agent who recruited Deripaska. This all goes back to the Robert Levinson case. Let me just

00:18:05.600 explain to the audience. 2007, a retired FBI agent named Robert Levinson was working for the CIA

00:18:10.740 inside Iran, presumably stiffed around their nuclear programs. Iranians found him. Levinson is taken

00:18:17.380 hostage in 2009. Eleven years later, we still don't know where Levinson is. We got proof of life around

00:18:22.380 2009, 2010. Since then, not a word, nothing on the radar. He's either dead or on ice in an Iranian 1.00

00:18:27.980 prison. It's unfortunate. But around 2009, none other, Patrick, than Andrew McCabe, and it always

00:18:34.820 comes back to McCabe, recruits Deripaska to spend $25 million of his own money. The guy's an aluminum 0.57

00:18:39.960 billionaire oligarch. $25 million of his own money to launch a search and rescue effort for Levinson.

00:18:45.640 They're successful. They get a ransom deal in 2010. State Department allegedly squashes it. They don't

00:18:51.040 like the terms. But now we have ironclad proof because Deripaska confirmed the story. His lawyer

00:18:57.360 confirmed the story. Levinson family confirmed the story. And the FBI agent around the case confirmed

00:19:02.660 the story. We have ironclad proof that Deripaska worked for Robert Mueller and the FBI. And Mueller

00:19:09.100 never disclosed this. Not only did he work for the FBI, but he actually told them very early on that

00:19:17.280 there was no collusion between Trump and Russia. And they wouldn't take him seriously. They said,

00:19:23.420 keep an open mind. Right, right. And now what bothers me is why would Deripaska put $25 million

00:19:30.580 for the FBI? What did McCabe and Mueller have on him? Russian oligarchs aren't known for being

00:19:35.100 generous with the United States. Well, you know, beginning in 2016, during the campaign, right around

00:19:40.160 the time of the convention in Cleveland, there were a lot of sort of SIOP efforts going on

00:19:45.560 and people being sent in to be near the Trump campaign. Of course, he had just won the Republican

00:19:52.860 nomination. And so there were a lot of people that were hanging out. It was a scene, man. Yeah. Yeah.

00:19:59.160 But, you know, they sent in like some of these Russians, I think, like you've got this guy, 0.91

00:20:03.500 Papadopoulos, and I'm not entirely sure where he's from, but he was being surveilled by the FBI at all

00:20:10.260 times. We reported that at all times. He was under FBI surveillance. There's no way he didn't know

00:20:15.220 about that. It wasn't complicit. And so there are a few other people, too, that were spying for the

00:20:21.540 FBI. Well, you know, you know, it's interesting. Quick side note. So I'm down in D.C. last week and

00:20:28.440 I I'm not a conspiratorial guy at all. And I'm sitting with a friend of mine who's pretty senior

00:20:33.620 federal agent. He's run intelligence groups in his respective agency. And we were blown away by the

00:20:39.420 amount of Iranians at the Trump Hotel bar and many of them really attractive women flirting with 0.98

00:20:46.320 guys who appeared to be relatively significant in federal service. And I looked at him. I said,

00:20:51.800 this is what we think it is. And he goes, I think this is what we think it is. I mean,

00:20:55.680 one after the other. I go to Trump. I stay at Trump, but I'm in D.C. I go to that bar too often. I know

00:21:00.880 the bartenders. I've never seen that many Iranians who were gorgeous women at the bar. That's not 1.00

00:21:06.480 coincidence in light of what's going on. No. And John Kerry was just meeting with some

00:21:11.040 Iranians. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. That was a whole nother nightmare. So we've got this situation now 1.00

00:21:20.380 where we find this this conflict of interest between Mueller and this Russian oligarch. We

00:21:27.960 know McCabe recruited this guy. Where is Jeff Sessions? You've been on this story every day. I've

00:21:33.940 got to cover a multitude of stories being on air. You've been pretty laser focused. Big

00:21:39.680 League does as well, but you guys have done exceptional work. You've been very laser focused

00:21:42.360 on Mueller and Hillary. What in the world is going on with Jeff Sessions? Well, we do not

00:21:47.640 take a side in the arguments between the Q followers who believe that Jeff Sessions is good

00:21:54.480 in playing 40 chess, as Larry Schweikart argues on our site, or the people who say that Jeff Sessions

00:22:01.140 is terrible. And he's in the swamp with Rod Rosenstein. So we have both points of view.

00:22:07.880 And which one do you think you're a good investigative reporter? I happen to one holes

00:22:12.260 water. I happen to think that if President Donald Trump wanted a different attorney general, he could

00:22:17.240 get a different attorney general, considering that he's been longtime friends with Jeff Sessions.

00:22:21.880 So that tells me right there that since Sessions was not one of the numerous ones that got fired,

00:22:27.380 there is something to Jeff Sessions. Let me tell you something. And I'll say this,

00:22:32.420 and I haven't said it on the show. I have been incredibly critical of Jeff Sessions. I still am

00:22:37.280 incredibly critical of Jeff Sessions. But I had somebody incredibly close to the administration

00:22:43.480 tell me last week, lay off Sessions, there's something going on. And it's somebody who has been

00:22:51.840 incredibly critical of Sessions, who's very, who's at the White House often, who said there's a lot

00:22:57.720 more going on here. Things are going to start happening, lay off Sessions. So I've been

00:23:01.560 a little less critical of Sessions. I haven't backed off my criticism because I still believe in optics

00:23:06.700 and messaging. And the public needs red meat. The base needs a little bit of red meat. Give them

00:23:11.620 something. Something. A charge McCain. Do something. But I have to tell you, I was shocked when I got the

00:23:19.620 phone call asking me to lay off Sessions by this particular person. Well, you know, Sessions is a

00:23:24.320 smart guy. I happen to think the fact that he recused himself in the case is one of the greatest

00:23:28.180 blunders of political strategy ever in history. I can't see any other way where him recusing himself

00:23:35.280 was a good thing. However, Trump hasn't fired him. So he must be doing. Well, I think he recused

00:23:41.260 himself because early on, I think Sessions trusted the process and he went to Rosenstein, who I believe is

00:23:46.200 a bad actor. And Rosenstein said, you should recuse yourself and Sessions recused himself.

00:23:50.620 And his biggest mistake was trusting the process. But he existed in it for 30 some odd years. How

00:23:55.860 many years as a senator? So he, you know, listen, I don't care how smart you are when you've been

00:24:00.720 trained and you have muscle memory over so many years. Patrick, you still with us? I thought we,

00:24:06.580 oh, there we go. We had a little glitch in your audio and video. But when you've been trained so many

00:24:10.720 years to do things a certain way and follow protocol, I think it's very difficult to deviate from that

00:24:15.160 your first week on a new job. Yeah, well, he shouldn't have been attorney general then.

00:24:19.200 That was a terrible position for him. That's where we agree. That's where we wholeheartedly agree.

00:24:22.740 All right. But let's talk about this new revelation because it goes to some of the

00:24:25.800 things you're investigating on. We've got this new agent, Joe Pienka, not a new agent. He was one

00:24:30.040 of the agents in the room with Peter Stroke when General McCabe, when General Flynn, oh my God,

00:24:34.460 I can't believe I said that. When General Flynn was interviewed, a guy that Andrew McCabe hated because

00:24:39.180 of the case with Agent Robin Gritz, who McCabe was trying to force out of the bureau and General

00:24:43.060 Flynn went to bat for her. You've got Stroke and Pienka in General Flynn's office interviewing him.

00:24:48.540 General Flynn thinks it's a routine meeting with the FBI as national security advisor.

00:24:52.620 Both of the agents, even Stroke, who despised Donald Trump and Pienka, didn't believe that

00:24:58.960 General Flynn lied. They thought he was being truthful. Why do you think Pienka's been on ice

00:25:03.200 that we haven't heard his name? One of two reasons, in my opinion. He's either complicit and

00:25:07.480 Mueller kept him on ice to avoid this problem, or he's cooperating with the OIG because he doesn't

00:25:12.340 want to go out the way McCabe did. Well, I think either one of those sounds possible.

00:25:19.660 You know, General Flynn did not do anything wrong, by the way. And this has come out now that even the

00:25:25.500 FBI admitted they had nothing on him. And Mueller keeps pushing back Flynn's sentencing. So why does

00:25:34.020 he keep pushing back Flynn's sentencing if Flynn has already pleaded guilty? Why does he keep delaying

00:25:39.900 it? Well, this is all just politics. Well, I think he's delaying it because Flynn's lawyers are

00:25:44.040 delaying it because they know they didn't get exculpatory evidence that they had. They had

00:25:48.660 that exculpatory evidence. They never would have taken that plea. I think Mueller is agreeing because

00:25:53.560 he doesn't want a public showdown where the judge turns around and says, Mr. Mueller, you better take

00:25:58.140 this delay. You better agree to their motion or I'm going to dismiss this case outright.

00:26:01.400 Right. You withhold exculpatory evidence. And I think Mueller thinks if he can push it and push

00:26:05.940 it and push it and push it, that one day the case will just quietly go away and the judge will

00:26:10.460 quietly dismiss it when this drops in the news cycle, because this is a public embarrassment

00:26:15.060 to Robert Mueller and it would require his whole investigation being shut down.

00:26:19.200 Well, they're just trying to take out all these administration guys. And by the way,

00:26:23.280 Anthony Scaramucci is next. The mooch. You think so? And the mooch. No, no, I'm kidding. I'm 1.00

00:26:30.300 kidding. I was like, wait, did he listen? Anthony Scaramucci's hair is so glorious. It gets him out of

00:26:34.560 any problem. He gets a pass. He gets a pass because of that. I wish he looks like Secretariat,

00:26:40.600 like a glorious racehorse. It's just not. It's amazing. But no, but we're serious. So you got this

00:26:46.580 agent, Pienka. And in any investigation on the planet, if two law enforcement guys, let alone

00:26:53.960 two senior FBI agents, went to a prosecutor and said, we don't believe this person lied.

00:26:58.760 James Comey loves to say, Patrick, no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute that case. It just

00:27:04.620 wouldn't happen. Yes. And in fact, we have a big story today about James Comey. James Comey

00:27:11.080 allowed this Columbia law professor, Daniel Richmond, to look at the servers and access classified

00:27:18.180 information. And then this Daniel Richmond person was the person who actually leaked the classified

00:27:21.980 information. And now we have evidence. And the woman is on the record. She's a partner at the law

00:27:29.260 firm that Natalie Veselkaya had her meeting at. Yes. And he and she lives in the same apartment

00:27:36.980 building with Daniel Richmond. And they spoke during this period. And what did he tell her?

00:27:44.140 She won't say. But obviously, you know, they were talking and this was all just a coordinated effort.

00:27:50.420 So this so Comey. So with this woman's non-testimony, but her acknowledgement that she spoke with

00:27:56.440 Richmond seems to indicate is that Comey was part of this conspiracy, let's call it, to get Veselkaya

00:28:05.280 into Trump Tower to make it look like the Trump campaign was doing something wrong.

00:28:09.800 Yes, that's right. And meanwhile, Peter Comey, James Comey's brother, is a top executive at DLA Piper,

00:28:15.360 which performed the independent audit of the Clinton Foundation around this very same time.

00:28:20.200 Yeah, it's all very incestuous. And as we know, one of the former Comey,

00:28:25.920 Baller McCabe cronies, his name escapes me right now, but he was the head of CrowdStrike,

00:28:30.360 which was funded exclusively by Tim Geithner and Eric Schmidt from Google to Hillary Clinton allies.

00:28:36.240 They were the only entity on the planet allowed to look at the DNC server, even the FBI wasn't.

00:28:40.440 And CrowdStrike without oversight or independent audit or law enforcement review determined it was

00:28:45.100 a hack, not an internal breach. I mean, all of this is really incestuous, really dirty and begs

00:28:51.060 a lot of questions. But is there anyone willing to ask them? Now, you've been digging into this.

00:28:56.000 What do you make of Christopher Wray? Good actor, bad actor, indifferent, afraid to fight the swamp?

00:29:02.120 Bad actor.

00:29:03.540 You see, I can't get a read on Wray. Why do you think he's a bad actor?

00:29:07.020 I mean, that's just what I've heard. You know, he obviously is not doing anything to help

00:29:11.280 Trump or help our democracy get healed after this horrible process.

00:29:15.540 But I think this is coming to an end. I think that when you have this story about the spies inside

00:29:23.260 the Trump campaign and all the things that James Comey did with the classified leaks and you have

00:29:29.440 Mueller with the uranium and now a relationship with Deripaska of all people could have been any

00:29:35.320 oligarch, but it's Deripaska. It's got to come to an end. How do you keep it going? But here's what

00:29:41.400 bothers me. The media won't fight hard enough. No, the media is never going to fight. But if Jeff

00:29:45.460 Sessions is a good actor, why is he allowing DOJ, which he runs, to still stonewall Congress on the

00:29:50.740 release of documents? With one phone call, he can call the president and say, Mr. President,

00:29:55.440 declassify it all. I'm going to release it. Boom. Or Jeff Sessions could call Wray and say,

00:29:59.320 release these documents today or you're fired.

00:30:02.720 Yes. And maybe this is the test. If he doesn't do this soon, then he should be fired.

00:30:09.020 All right. So what should we be looking for? As you dig into these stories,

00:30:12.480 what should the public be looking at? What angle are they not looking at that they should be?

00:30:17.520 You know, I think just the fact that so many FISA courts were violated and so many laws were broken

00:30:27.100 as these people put together these dossiers and worked with foreign intelligence to covertly get

00:30:32.840 information. And it was all wrong. And it was just this awful thing that happened in our FBI and

00:30:40.800 our intelligence agencies with these people on their way out doing these nasty, horrible things.

00:30:46.140 And I think people are really sick by it. And they see President Donald Trump as the champion,

00:30:50.560 the victim of this. But he's not a victim because he's fighting. And, you know, I think they're

00:30:55.560 rallying around him. We have the majority of the country now supporting President Donald Trump.

00:30:59.540 So we do. I think if Trump wins this, this is this is going to be pretty historic. And then he's

00:31:04.640 going to be able to really govern. Can you imagine what this guy could have done if he was able to

00:31:08.780 actually govern the country? It would be incredible. Even The Washington Post ran a story today where

00:31:13.340 Democrats are saying not so fast about this blue wave. Trump is pretty damn popular. I think we might

00:31:18.240 be in for a little rude awakening here as as as these. Well, obviously, for GDP is going to be

00:31:26.360 pretty bad for the Republicans. I'm seeing a blue wave. Are you really? No. Yeah, I'm going to say

00:31:31.140 most Democrats don't even know when a midterm election is happening. No, they really don't.

00:31:37.700 And, you know, I was talking to the chairman of the 2014. We dominated them. Talking to the

00:31:42.640 chairman of the Virginia GOP yesterday. And he made a good point. I was on a phone call with him and a

00:31:46.420 couple of people. And he said, today's Democratic Party reminds him of the Republican ticket in 96,

00:31:50.800 Dole Kemp. Unexciting, solid establishment, nothing to offer, nothing new, nothing fresh,

00:31:56.960 going up against Bill Clinton, like larger than life Bill Clinton. Right. And it was a really I

00:32:01.580 thought he drew a really good parallel, a really good comparison with that. I think the Democrats

00:32:05.580 are in are in really big trouble. Right. I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you. So there was another

00:32:10.240 dump of emails. March 30th, work you did alongside Judicial Watch that you uncovered, Hillary's

00:32:16.140 emails. The really big tranche, the one we're all waiting for, September 28th, 2018. Did we learn

00:32:22.460 anything new about the March 30th tranche of emails since we last spoke? Was anything earth shattering

00:32:28.580 in there? Anything interesting in there? Yes. Obviously, you have, you know, Hillary Clinton

00:32:33.900 talking to a whole lot of people in the Middle East, including in Iran during this period. She's

00:32:39.880 supporting, you know, that this has proven now that she supported the Al Qaeda group that became

00:32:45.980 ISIS, Al Qaeda in Iraq. The Washington Post. In those emails. Everything called me crazy

00:32:51.160 when I first said that. And I was. Patrick, Patrick, back up, back up. So in those emails

00:32:55.680 released on March 30th, the communications between Hillary and actors in the Middle East

00:33:00.220 that eventually morphed into or assisted ISIS, those communications were within that tranche

00:33:06.000 of emails. It is clear that there is more evidence, yes, that Hillary Clinton did, in fact,

00:33:12.660 organize and offer active support to Al Qaeda in Iraq. Now, was any of this. Which became ISIS.

00:33:22.060 Was any of this done through Benghazi? Is there any tie to Benghazi there and why you try? Yes.

00:33:28.400 Because that was so that was a weapons running. They were gun running. They they had sold so many

00:33:33.720 weapons to the Al Qaeda groups in Libya that they needed to set up that consulate to go and try to buy

00:33:39.320 back some of the weapons. So they were sent in on a covert mission and they got tipped off to it

00:33:46.100 because Hillary Clinton was putting the ambassador Stevens's location all over her private email

00:33:52.380 server, which was breached in the Middle East right before this happened. This is this is so bad.

00:33:57.840 This is absolutely, absolutely terrible. So they're going through these emails, right?

00:34:02.580 These emails. How many were released in the last tranche?

00:34:07.080 A few more thousand. Have they all been sorted through or that might might we still find some

00:34:11.420 interesting things out here? No, they haven't. They're there's, you know, still being looked

00:34:16.220 through. Who has them right now? Judicial Watch. Yeah. And they're released as well.

00:34:21.000 They are. Where can the public find them if they want to take a look?

00:34:24.080 We will put them up on our site. Oh, you will. So they'll be on big lead politics.

00:34:27.320 Yes. Yes. All right. Great. So what we'll do is we'll when are you going to put those up?

00:34:32.520 So I want to have you back on right after you do. I'll put them up today. Oh, you will. All right.

00:34:36.620 So let's plan on having you back next week after you've had time to run through them. Let's talk

00:34:40.800 about some new revelations, if any. Absolutely. All right. Patrick Howley, editor in chief,

00:34:46.540 big lead politics. It's a great time, John. You're very clandestine today. You're very,

00:34:50.640 very cryptic, very secretive. I feel like you're waiting for the black helicopters to come get you.

00:34:55.280 Not at all. Not at all. We are. I think we're winning. We're doing very well.

00:35:01.260 Well, and I think people are really happy about it. All right. Sounds good, man. We'll have you

00:35:06.280 back on next week. Patrick Howley, editor in chief, big lead politics. Thanks. Thank you.

00:35:10.040 Turkey, you know, our wonderful NATO ally, Turkey, whose leader Erdogan comes to the United States

00:35:26.820 and has his security detail beat up Americans. You know that Turkey, the Turkey we're supposed to 0.99

00:35:31.660 still tolerate. Well, after the United States did the right thing, something that should have been

00:35:38.180 done decades ago, something that was recognized in 1995. Of course, I mean, Jerusalem is the capital

00:35:43.420 of Israel. And after Donald Trump, the only president with the guts, accelerated the move

00:35:48.800 of the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem and opened the embassy this week. Well, Turkey recalled its ambassadors

00:35:54.740 to the United States and Israel over the move. CNN ran a story here and CNN must be loving this.

00:36:01.100 They must love it. They love everybody who hates the United States. The Turkey, let me read part of

00:36:05.760 this. Turkey is recalling its ambassadors to the U.S. and Israel in an official protest of the Trump

00:36:11.040 administration's decision to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Now, like I said, CNN must be

00:36:21.320 loving it. Erdogan said Monday that the United States decision to move its embassy to Jerusalem

00:36:25.200 from Tel Aviv shows that the U.S. prefers to become part of the problem rather than the solution, end

00:36:30.840 quote. No, Erdogan, no. We are just sick of being held hostage by Hamas. The embassy should have been 0.94

00:36:39.260 in Jerusalem decades ago, and no one had the guts to do it because they were terrified of Hamas 0.77

00:36:44.700 terrorists in Gaza. Trump is not. He understands the Reagan doctrine of peace through strength,

00:36:52.660 peace through superior firepower, and it's not even mutually assured destruction anymore.

00:36:57.320 Our military is rebuilding. We're producing oil and gas. It's, it's, we can assure you,

00:37:03.440 we will destroy you. No longer mutually assured destruction. It's, be sure the U.S. will destroy

00:37:08.780 you. And the world is much safer and much more stable as a result. When you look back at what

00:37:16.040 Obama did to this world, I want to, it gets me sick. Erdogan also said, quote, with his latest step

00:37:22.880 in the embassy move, the United States has lost its role as mediator in the Middle East peace process,

00:37:28.160 end quote. He means doormat. He spelt doormat wrong. He spelt appeaser wrong. That was all we were

00:37:35.620 under Obama. We were appeasing doormats for Hamas. The Muslims said, jump. And Obama said,

00:37:41.460 how high? And that was all it was about. Erdogan also went on to say that the move is, quote,

00:37:46.600 a most unfortunate decision to execute. We once again, regret this decision that violates

00:37:52.220 international law, end quote. Now, that is about the dumbest comment I've ever heard. The United States 0.96

00:37:58.720 choosing to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, something that we did via congressional

00:38:05.020 approval back in 95, something Israel recognizes, violates international law. Now, apparently,

00:38:11.280 according to Erdogan and the Muslims, two sovereign nations are not allowed to decide where the 0.94

00:38:15.000 capital of one of those nations is. The international community has to do it. Well, no,

00:38:19.000 they don't. And that's what has guys like Erdogan, a nervous wreck that Trump and Netanyahu

00:38:24.180 couldn't care less about the globalists who appease Muslims and third world dictators in whole 0.86

00:38:28.960 countries. Too bad. So sad. During his remarks in London, Erdogan was also quoted by Andalou,

00:38:35.840 Turkish state media, as saying, quote, Israel is a terrorist state, end quote, end quote. What

00:38:41.340 Israel is doing is a genocide, end quote. Now, he's talking about the 55 Palestinians. Oh, I mean,

00:38:46.940 Hamas terrorists killed in Gaza. 2,700 injured. Well, I'll tell you what, don't allow, don't allow 0.82

00:38:54.620 Hamas terrorists to stir you up. This is ridiculous. This is so ridiculous. I was speaking to somebody, 0.99

00:39:02.400 a former Israeli consul general yesterday. And he said to me, I said, what's going on over there?

00:39:10.260 And he said, Hamas is stirring up unrest in Gaza. They've got 30,000, 40,000 people running around

00:39:15.000 because they have Hamas terror cells trying to make incursions into Israel and other places.

00:39:20.320 He said, wait a minute. Is this a big diversion? He said, yep. It's what they do. It's their MO. Our

00:39:25.680 intelligence has done that for years. And that's why the IDF, the Israeli Defense Force, is killing

00:39:29.540 these guys in other places along the strip. Needs to be done. Very simple. If Hamas terrorists stop 0.84

00:39:37.200 trying to kill Israelis, if Hamas terrorists stop trying to get into Israel, presumably to go bomb

00:39:41.760 things in Jerusalem during the celebrations, the IDF wouldn't be killing Hamas terrorists. 0.77

00:39:47.320 Palestinians wouldn't be injured. Really, really very simple. Now, the only reason there's unrest

00:39:53.220 is because guys like Bill Clinton and George W. Bush and Barack Obama, especially Barack Obama,

00:40:01.080 well, they kept ceding ground to Hamas and Gaza. Hamas never should have been given Gaza. It's not

00:40:07.580 the Palestinians who got Gaza. Let's make no mistake about this. It is Hamas. It is Hamas. 0.97

00:40:13.460 Now, Hezbollah has been relatively quiet over there in Lebanon, but with an emboldened Iran. Oh, 0.97

00:40:17.920 my God. If Hillary Clinton were president of the United States, if Hillary Clinton were president of

00:40:22.220 the United States, Israel would be in serious jeopardy of an invasion of mass casualty incident.

00:40:28.560 But Hezbollah is relatively quiet. We don't know if they're going to be reactivated. They're right 1.00

00:40:31.620 there. They're a puppet of Iran. Hamas and Iran are very close. It's really, 0.90

00:40:35.960 by the grace of God, literally, maybe, that those two haven't decided to cooperate militarily yet.

00:40:44.920 But I think it's because Hezbollah wants to legitimize themselves a bit more in Lebanon.

00:40:51.540 Kind of like when, you know, mob, the mob, wise guys decide to go legit. And so they stop leaving

00:40:57.580 bodies on the street to create that illusion of legitimacy for a little while. Don't worry.

00:41:03.500 They'll go back to their old ways. But at least we have a stronger United States

00:41:07.480 and a rock solid U.S.-Israel alliance to squash that very, very quickly.

00:41:12.660 So Benjamin Netanyahu wasted no time responding to Erdogan.

00:41:16.880 Erdogan made that comment. And Netanyahu took to Twitter this morning.

00:41:21.120 And he said, quote,

00:41:22.720 Erdogan is among Hamas's biggest supporters, and there is no doubt that he will understand 0.91

00:41:27.260 terrorism and slaughter. I suggest that he not preach morality to us.

00:41:32.160 I do not disagree with the word Benjamin Netanyahu says. I rarely do. He's a brilliant guy.

00:41:39.240 Tough as nails. He really is Donald Trump. They're very much the same guy. That's why this

00:41:45.500 alliance terrifies the world. That's why this alliance terrifies the globalists.

00:41:50.160 But I've got to tell you, I am very, very concerned about Turkey. Now, we have strategic assets in

00:41:59.540 Turkey. We have an air base in Turkey. Turkey is strategically located, still a member of NATO.

00:42:03.760 We have F-35 sales about to go off to Turkey.

00:42:07.740 We sell arms to Israel as well. But because of the NATO alliance,

00:42:11.320 I'm very uncomfortable with the level of military cooperation we have with Turkey.

00:42:16.300 The Kurds have been some of our best assets against the terrorists. Turkey hates the Kurds.

00:42:21.780 They would love to kill every last one of them. But then again, Turkey did help us grab up these 1.00

00:42:26.200 five ISIS fighters last week. And so it's a really odd relationship. Jordan, to me anyway,

00:42:33.120 is a much more stable, predictable, and friendly coalition partner. And Jordan, as a coalition

00:42:40.080 partner, understand something else Donald Trump has done. Donald Trump has created a coalition with

00:42:44.520 Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Muslim nations. Israel is part of that coalition, and they're seeing Israel as an 0.85

00:42:51.720 equal. That is the massive foreign policy win for the Trump administration. It's not being underreported.

00:43:02.100 Nobody, even right-wing media, really isn't reporting it. Donald Trump got nations like Jordan and Saudi

00:43:09.560 Arabia to accept Israel as an equal partner in a coalition against Middle East aggression.

00:43:16.020 That's what's terrifying Turkey. Turkey can no longer play these games. And I'm so glad Netanyahu 1.00

00:43:22.360 called out Erdogan, but I think we really need to be very vigilant about this. We need to stay on top

00:43:28.360 of this, because I don't predict that Erdogan is going to, anytime soon, turn into a nice guy.

00:43:35.120 Turkey. I predict that this is going to be much more of the same, that we're going to be dealing 1.00

00:43:39.340 with a very bad actor in Turkey. He's becoming much more radical. Turkey is becoming much less

00:43:44.500 secular. And I really don't think it's that much of a stretch for Turkey to start to look a lot like 0.97

00:43:52.780 Iran in the short term. Something we really need to keep an eye out. 1.00

00:43:56.080 The left Democrats in particular are up in arms over a question on the 2020 census that asks the

00:44:13.600 audacious question as to whether or not people are citizens. Of course they are, because they want

00:44:19.160 illegal aliens to be able to vote en masse and to turn this country blue irrevocably. Now, this is from 1.00

00:44:25.100 Newsmax, a 2020, excuse me, U.S. Census citizenship question could water down the population count and

00:44:31.820 other important data critics. But federal officials say the information is needed to ensure voting

00:44:38.100 accuracy. The latter part of that statement is very true, because if you don't know how

00:44:42.780 gerrymandering works, districting for congressional districts, it's all based on census and population

00:44:49.500 apportionment. The more population in a certain area, the congressional districts, the more congressional

00:44:55.920 districts. In other words, they try to apportion congressional districts based on a percentage of that state's

00:45:01.520 population. So if, say, the each state is entitled to X percent of their population getting a congressional

00:45:10.180 district, well, the denser population areas, the area around cities will have more districts. But if it turns out that a

00:45:17.280 large portion of the people in that area can't vote because they're not citizens, well, district grows.

00:45:23.220 So you might have one district covering that area instead of two. You might have one less member of

00:45:27.380 Congress and will put other districts in areas that are more dense with citizens. Well, critics don't like

00:45:35.680 that because this would eliminate representation of illegal aliens, which it should because they're not

00:45:42.420 citizens. That's what they're afraid of. So if you didn't understand what all the the hysteria was

00:45:48.260 about this, that's what it's about. Well, critics are trying to say no. It's trying to delegitimize those

00:45:56.420 who aren't citizens. And for purposes of the U.S. Census, when it comes to gerrymandering and congressional

00:46:01.720 apportionment, it should is that portion of the census is reserved for voters. Now, Commerce Secretary

00:46:09.400 Ross is telling everybody to calm down. He says the move doesn't mean, quote, unquote, the sky will fall.

00:46:18.880 Excuse me. He also says that, quote, 61 million families have already been exposed to the question

00:46:23.040 and the sky is not falling. Well, I don't think the sky will fall when we add it to the census itself in 2020.

00:46:28.980 Now, the citizenship question will be the last one on the census form. And Commerce Secretary Ross says, quote,

00:46:35.360 so that someone who, for whatever reason, feels uncomfortable with that question, at least they can

00:46:39.760 deal easily with the questions with which they are not uncomfortable. In other words, if you don't

00:46:45.280 like the question, don't answer it. Don't answer it. And answer all the other ones first that we need to

00:46:53.720 know for demographic data. And if you don't like it, don't answer it. But if you don't answer it and you

00:46:58.200 are a citizen, you might not get congressional representation. If you don't answer it and you're not

00:47:02.320 a citizen, they'll be it. Commerce Department's going to spend about half a billion dollars on 1.00

00:47:07.600 advertising the census. And the secretary says that people don't have to worry about their privacy

00:47:12.620 being abused. But he said, we're also taking extreme measures for cybersecurity so that we can

00:47:17.940 try to protect as best one can against intrusions there. Now, 17 states are suing commerce and the

00:47:25.580 Census Bureau over the change. It did draw lots of opposition, Secretary Ross said. It also drew lots of

00:47:31.480 support. It's not a novel question. He's 100 percent right. This question is critical. So again,

00:47:37.140 to explain why we do this, if you don't understand how these things work, firm gerrymandering means

00:47:43.100 assigning boundaries of a congressional district and deciding how many districts there are. And

00:47:50.120 gerrymandering now is used more commonly when districts have changed, been accused of Democrats

00:47:54.560 trying to do this to pick up seats in Congress. And there's some weight to that because these lawsuits

00:48:01.120 one of the lead attorneys on these lawsuits, both for the census question and the gerrymandering

00:48:06.040 that you're seeing around the country, most notably in Pennsylvania, is none other than

00:48:09.800 former Attorney General Eric Holder, a guy so far left, he falls off San Francisco when he wakes up in

00:48:14.780 the morning. So again, here's how it works. You have a state. That state has X number of people in the

00:48:21.480 population. And that population is broken down. And the state says, OK, a congressional district is made up

00:48:28.760 of this many of those people. For argument's sake, if a state has three million people and they say

00:48:35.360 a congressional district is made up of 300,000 people, the state will have 10 congressional districts.

00:48:39.920 There'll be 10 representatives from Congress to that state. Now, if the state has a few small cities

00:48:47.800 and rural farm and ranch land, well, the majority of those 10 districts are probably going to be

00:48:55.420 around those cities and cities tend to be blue. However, if a good portion of those people in those

00:49:02.140 cities answer, we are not citizens or don't answer, but everybody in the more rural areas answer,

00:49:08.480 we are citizens. Well, then that might shift a little bit. So those urban areas might get seven

00:49:13.580 congressional districts, and those rural areas might get three or six and four. And so it shifts

00:49:19.640 back a little bit red. That's why Democrats are terrified of this question, because there's a lot

00:49:26.120 of ways you can commit voter fraud. It doesn't have to be at the ballot box. Another way, in a very hidden

00:49:31.300 way, until the Trump administration, Secretary Ross, was to assign congressional districts to areas with

00:49:36.820 large illegal alien populations. And then there'd be very small turnout of citizens who would vote

00:49:41.500 predominantly Democrat. This is another way to stop silent voter fraud via census fraud, via apportionment

00:49:50.640 fraud, via fraudulent gerrymandering. And I think this question is not just not a novel question,

00:49:57.420 as the secretary says, I think this is arguably the most important question on the upcoming 2020 census.

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00:50:27.340 or two

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