Rebel News Podcast - Off The Cuff Declassified - John Cardillo - May 23⧸2018

00:00:00.000 Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, new and troubling information about the 16-year-old

00:00:05.000 who murdered a Baltimore County police officer.

00:00:07.780 Big trouble for Democrats after last night's primaries heading into the 2018 midterms.

00:00:13.480 We're going to talk about how the mainstream media covers threats and shootings depending

00:00:18.460 on who's doing the talking.

00:00:20.540 And the New York Times is salivating as Michael Cohen's business partner is charged with tax

00:00:27.060 crimes.

00:00:27.440 I'll tell you why I think the New York Times is delusional.

00:00:36.080 New and very disturbing details have emerged about Donta Harris, the 16-year-old who murdered

00:00:41.840 Baltimore County police officer Amy Caprio in cold blood, ran her over after a burglary. 0.59

00:00:48.240 Now, I wanted to have Dr. Adam Dobrin.

00:00:50.600 He's a professor of criminology.

00:00:51.860 I've seen him on the show before.

00:00:53.400 One of his specialties where he's published is exactly this.

00:00:56.780 Juvenile justice, juvenile offenders.

00:00:59.380 Unfortunately, because of the murder of police officer, Dr. Dobrin was unavailable today.

00:01:03.420 He will be coming on with me tomorrow.

00:01:05.500 It's going to be a very, very interesting segment.

00:01:07.200 We're going to get into all of the problems with juvenile justice, sentencing, and just

00:01:12.120 how many of these dangerous kids are out there.

00:01:14.920 You're not going to want to miss that.

00:01:16.100 And before we dig into this Donta Harris case, I want to tell you about something that the

00:01:19.840 U.S.

00:01:20.260 House of Representatives has done.

00:01:22.020 They have overwhelmingly passed a prison reform bill.

00:01:25.440 And when I say overwhelmingly, 360 to 59.

00:01:29.780 And what the bill is intended to do is provide more education for federal prisoners and give

00:01:35.840 them opportunities after their release.

00:01:37.660 Now, in theory, I don't have a problem with it.

00:01:41.640 OK, we don't keep people in prison forever.

00:01:45.760 We don't.

00:01:47.080 We can't.

00:01:48.340 And so there's really nothing wrong with while they're there.

00:01:51.480 In fact, I think the only good things come from that.

00:01:53.760 Giving them an education, giving them an opportunity after their release.

00:01:56.860 Look, I know someone who went to White Collar, one of the club feds, for Wall Street issues.

00:02:03.320 Well, they made a lot of money and they actually won their case on appeal and their sentences

00:02:09.440 were vacated.

00:02:10.220 These poor people did nothing wrong. 1.00

00:02:11.880 It was part of the Obama administration's war on wealth.

00:02:14.280 It was a very wealthy, but very philanthropic couple in their 60s.

00:02:19.160 And under Obama, there was this war on wealth.

00:02:21.700 All of their assets were seized.

00:02:23.580 They've won some of those back.

00:02:26.660 A lot of their money was unfrozen.

00:02:28.600 Their convictions overturned, vacated, and then ultimately dismissed with prejudice.

00:02:32.740 The government can't file again.

00:02:34.600 Not that they would, but while in federal prison, the wife got her cosmetology license 1.00

00:02:41.580 and something she always wanted to do.

00:02:43.360 They were making so much money on Wall Street, but she just liked the beauty industry.

00:02:46.660 And now they'll be investing in a chain of salons and things of that nature. 0.99

00:02:51.120 So in many respects, the two years that she unfortunately lost of her life in federal prison,

00:02:57.020 at least she's making lemonade out of lemons. 0.80

00:02:59.200 So I don't know about these programs can yield very good results because there were other women 1.00

00:03:04.140 in there with her that got their licenses. 1.00

00:03:05.840 And now when she opens these businesses, she's going to put them to work. 1.00

00:03:08.820 And so now these people are no longer coming out of jail as convicts who are going to be

00:03:14.880 drains on society.

00:03:15.800 They're going to be able to be gainfully employed, making a good living.

00:03:19.560 I get my, I'm a guy and I don't have a lot of hair and it's 30, you know, 30 bucks,

00:03:23.580 whatever with the tip.

00:03:24.300 I usually 20 bucks and leave a $10 tip.

00:03:26.140 And so the barbers cut my hair, you know, they do okay.

00:03:30.160 They do okay.

00:03:31.240 And so that's a good thing, right?

00:03:33.260 And more education inside is a good thing.

00:03:36.720 But I don't want to see the left take this as they often do and bastardize it into something

00:03:44.960 else.

00:03:45.260 Now, the bill was originally authored by a far left guy, Hakeem Jeffries, a Democrat from

00:03:49.380 Brooklyn, and he was joined by a Republican from Georgia.

00:03:51.960 The first step act, as it's called, would authorize a quarter billion dollars, 250 million

00:03:57.220 over five years to develop and expand programs that reduce recidivism and give incentives

00:04:03.940 for good behavior.

00:04:05.040 Again, I have no problem with this because when you, when you put programs like this in

00:04:09.420 place, if they're adhered to, everybody's safer.

00:04:11.400 The inmate population is safer.

00:04:12.720 However, the Wall Street guy who's screwed up, who's not a hardcore criminal, he's got

00:04:18.920 less chance of being, you know, shanked in the shower and murdered in prison.

00:04:23.740 The guards, the correction officers are safer.

00:04:27.020 The entire population tends to calm down a little bit.

00:04:31.240 That's only a good thing.

00:04:33.020 Now, look, you can't be delusional.

00:04:35.500 You're still going to have your vicious gangs in prison.

00:04:37.760 The Mexican Mafia, all of the gangs, you know, the Bloods, the Crips, Latin Kings, MS-13, 0.98

00:04:43.660 they all exist in prison.

00:04:45.060 The Aryan Brotherhood, they call the brand vicious, vicious guys, horrible guys, alongside 1.00

00:04:50.620 the Mexican Mafia, alongside the Vice Lords and the Gangster Disciples and all these prison 1.00

00:04:54.860 gangs.

00:04:55.560 They're always going to exist because in many respects, their power comes from their hierarchy

00:05:02.260 in prison.

00:05:02.800 The Aryan Brotherhood is run from prisons like San Quentin and Pelican Bay out in California.

00:05:08.700 They're now run from places like Supermax in Florence, Colorado.

00:05:12.980 These are bad, bad, bad guys.

00:05:16.100 And that prison gives them that murderous, vicious street cred that entails fear when they're

00:05:20.800 run from prison, right?

00:05:21.760 But, but knowing that you're not going to rehabilitate those people, there's a large

00:05:27.760 inmate population that, well, you might be able to do something with when they come out.

00:05:33.280 If you can get them a job, and I've always, I've always been for this, they're not going

00:05:35.680 to go knock off a liquor store. 0.69

00:05:37.320 And so in that respect, very good.

00:05:39.500 So the bill, over five years, will develop and expand programs that, as I said, reduce

00:05:44.820 recidivism and give incentives for good behavior.

00:05:47.280 It would also boost current inmates' chances for a GED, vocational and college court, as

00:05:54.620 well as substance abuse and mental health help.

00:05:58.520 Again, very good.

00:06:00.300 Now, this is what Hakeem Jeffries, a Democrat from New York, said, quote, these are individuals

00:06:04.840 who are in the system right now without hope, without opportunity, without a meaningful

00:06:08.180 chance at transforming themselves.

00:06:11.140 And the First Step Act will provide that.

00:06:13.300 Why would we possibly refuse that?

00:06:16.600 Now, Gerald Nadler, another Democrat from Manhattan, he said the legislation, he's an opponent

00:06:23.040 of the bill.

00:06:24.080 He said the legislation fails to reform sentencing guidelines and could even exacerbate racial

00:06:30.600 biases when prison officials conduct a risk assessment for each offender.

00:06:36.000 Now, this shows you the insanity of the Democratic Party.

00:06:40.180 Keem Jeffries is a black man.

00:06:42.500 He's a very far left, black activist, politician from Brooklyn.

00:06:48.260 He's behind the bill.

00:06:49.660 But Gerald Nadler, the white guy who's been in Congress far too long, oh, this bill is

00:06:55.420 racist.

00:06:55.860 No, it was just because Donald Trump was behind the bill.

00:06:58.600 Now, look, this is the kind of legislation that does make sense to me, as long as it's

00:07:04.100 not abused.

00:07:05.080 And it's an example of bipartisanship.

00:07:07.960 There can nobody, nobody would agree.

00:07:09.640 I don't care if you take the most hardcore right wing cop or ex-cop or the most left

00:07:14.720 wing radical.

00:07:16.420 Nobody would argue or should argue that someone who served a prison sentence and is being

00:07:22.880 released, they serve their time, their full time.

00:07:25.180 No one would argue that we should do more to try to get these people jobs so that they

00:07:28.620 can't or they don't want to go out and rip people off and rob people.

00:07:31.880 No one would argue that if this person robbed because they were uneducated, we should try to

00:07:35.740 get them educated.

00:07:36.440 No one would argue that if they were sticking up convenience stores because of their drug

00:07:41.440 habit, that we shouldn't get them substance abuse treatment.

00:07:44.340 Right.

00:07:44.440 Nobody would argue with that or nobody should.

00:07:46.500 I mean, commonsensical.

00:07:48.240 And so in that context, I agree with this bill.

00:07:52.360 People on the right have hammered me.

00:07:53.440 They've said, oh, my God.

00:07:54.760 Now, what are you turning liberal?

00:07:55.920 What are you moving to the center?

00:07:57.260 But no, no, but I did work the street and I saw what happens to people when they're thrown

00:08:01.920 into prison, when they're caged up and when it becomes crime school.

00:08:07.840 That's really what it becomes.

00:08:09.300 Johnny Depp in that movie Blow, his character, George Young, he said, you know, federal prison

00:08:13.800 was crime school.

00:08:15.280 He was in there teaching inmates how to smuggle.

00:08:17.160 They had nothing else to do.

00:08:18.380 He was teaching them how to smuggle drugs, how to get cocaine in the US.

00:08:23.040 That's exactly what it is.

00:08:24.420 It becomes a breeding ground for the inmate to become more vicious, more brutal, and

00:08:29.260 learn how to commit crime more effectively.

00:08:31.380 So I'm a fan of anything that mitigates that.

00:08:35.660 Of anything that mitigates that.

00:08:37.340 Here's what Gerald Nadler said.

00:08:39.400 Quote, on principle, I cannot support legislation which fails to address the larger issues of

00:08:44.720 sentencing reform.

00:08:46.160 Now, this is all about no cash bail.

00:08:48.980 And we don't want sentencing reform.

00:08:50.880 If you're a violent, savage offender, you should rot.

00:08:54.140 Rot in prison.

00:08:55.560 Rape and you murder. 0.92

00:08:57.020 If you do it to children, if you do it to women. 1.00

00:08:59.160 Rot in prison for the rest of your life.

00:09:01.500 Honestly, I'm a death penalty fan.

00:09:03.160 Whole nother show.

00:09:05.180 Though this bill makes some modest improvements in areas related to our prisons, it actually

00:09:09.420 does more harm by cementing into our system new areas of racial biases and disadvantages

00:09:14.500 that make worse.

00:09:15.120 A criminal justice system desperately in need of reform.

00:09:18.560 And Gerald Nadler knows that it'll never happen in a sweeping way.

00:09:22.120 It's too much of a bedrock institution, the correctional system.

00:09:26.080 Instead, he just wants to be a contrarian Democrat saying to the black guy from Brooklyn, the black

00:09:31.400 Democrat from Brooklyn, ha ha, I'm more liberal than you.

00:09:35.040 I know more about the black experience in prison than you.

00:09:38.220 Well, no, you don't, Gerald Nadler.

00:09:39.220 You are a relatively upper middle class to wealthy white man from Manhattan.

00:09:43.900 No, you don't.

00:09:45.740 And so it should really highlight the hypocrisy and the disingenuous nature of Democrats like

00:09:52.180 Gerald Nadler.

00:09:53.020 When you've got black Democrats from Brooklyn and white Republicans from Georgia coming together

00:09:58.220 with Donald Trump.

00:09:59.320 Okay.

00:09:59.680 You know what?

00:10:00.520 This bill's a good first step.

00:10:02.220 Those on the fringe who object to this, well, they should have to explain why.

00:10:08.860 Now, Chuck Grassley, Chuck Grassley is opposed to this bill, but Trump is not.

00:10:15.900 Let me tell you what Trump said, because this legislation is a priority for the White House.

00:10:19.800 And I'm reading from the New York Post story.

00:10:21.640 Quote, this is from the president.

00:10:23.380 America is a nation that believes in the power of redemption.

00:10:26.320 America is a nation that believes in second chances and third chances.

00:10:29.400 In some cases, I don't know, I guess even fourth chances, end quote.

00:10:33.680 That's where I disagree with President Trump on this.

00:10:36.780 That's what I don't want to see happen.

00:10:40.020 That's a problem for me.

00:10:42.140 I typically agree with the president.

00:10:44.540 Not there.

00:10:46.120 I don't want a third, a fourth repeat offender getting chance.

00:10:50.780 I don't want a second repeat offender getting a chance upon chance.

00:10:53.880 And that's my fear.

00:10:55.400 That's my fear.

00:10:56.640 Now, of course, here's where it gets really interesting.

00:11:03.720 The Carl's Koch Institute and the Faith and Freedom Coalition support the bill.

00:11:09.500 Van Jones, CNN commentator, supports the bill.

00:11:13.960 He actually gave Trump credit.

00:11:14.940 But the ACLU and NAACP don't because it doesn't go far enough.

00:11:19.940 Like Gerald Nadler, it's not liberal enough.

00:11:23.440 Chuck Grassley has the bill's had a hurdle in the Senate.

00:11:26.960 It might not pass the Senate.

00:11:28.400 Chuck Grassley wants any prison legislation tried to sentencing reform.

00:11:33.620 And his bill, the Sentencing Reform and Corrections Act, passed out of committee this year,

00:11:37.360 but hasn't gotten support from the Trump administration or hasn't gotten a floor vote either from Mitch McConnell.

00:11:43.120 But nothing gets a floor.

00:11:45.360 Here is what Representative Bob Goodlatte said.

00:11:50.740 And he backs the bill.

00:11:52.700 But, well, actually, Bob Goodlatte is behind this bill, but he also wants a more comprehensive bill.

00:11:59.020 He says, quote,

00:11:59.580 And I didn't even read Representative Goodlatte's quote when I told you they need prison as crime school.

00:12:17.580 Prisoners are more likely to recidivate, meaning commit additional crimes.

00:12:21.180 Now, this legislation allows inmates to earn up to 54 days of good time credit per year instead of the current 47 days.

00:12:29.460 So they get an extra week shaved off their sentence for good behavior.

00:12:33.680 It also incentivizes inmates to participate in new programs, including increased phone and visitation periods,

00:12:41.380 and transfer to an institution closer to their home if they engage in good behavior.

00:12:46.860 Nothing wrong with any of that.

00:12:48.220 If you go to prison and you're not fighting and you're not dealing drugs in the prison and you're not causing a problem,

00:12:54.200 I have no problem with an additional week being shaved off your sentence.

00:12:58.140 I have no problem with you being able to be on the phone with your family and friends longer.

00:13:01.380 I have no problem with them being able to visit you for longer periods of time.

00:13:05.320 None at all.

00:13:05.860 And I've got no problem with you being moved to another prison closer to home because the families didn't commit the crime.

00:13:12.580 The wife and the little innocent kids, 0.78

00:13:14.580 I have no problem if they only have to drive two hours into the seven.

00:13:17.140 Nobody's giving these people a break as long as that's what it is.

00:13:22.480 I don't want this to be for somebody that gets out, commits another violent crime, gets out, commits another violent crime.

00:13:28.440 That's where I'm very concerned about this bill.

00:13:32.440 Now, Charles Koch Institute released a poll last week that found that 80% of managers,

00:13:39.580 human resource professionals, and employees servered are willing and open to working with individuals with a criminal record.

00:13:44.980 Now, here's my issue.

00:13:48.180 I don't know if I'd hire somebody with a past of robbery.

00:13:54.880 I don't think I would.

00:13:56.340 I can tell you I don't want somebody who's a rapist within miles of any business I'm involved in.

00:14:03.620 But if you were a white-collar criminal, if your company was involved in insider trading and you got wrapped up in it,

00:14:13.080 yeah, I don't have much problem.

00:14:14.740 I don't have any problem hiring you.

00:14:16.660 Probably overeducated for the job you're going to get.

00:14:18.960 So you're going to wind up being a pretty decent employee.

00:14:20.820 And you're not going to be in a position to engage in that type of crime because you're not going to be allowed to work in the securities industry or the trading industry anyway.

00:14:28.520 And so as conservative as I am and as hardline as I am on criminal justice,

00:14:34.100 I think nonviolent offenders, as long as you weren't engaged in bad check scams or extorting a small business,

00:14:39.560 no, then I don't want you anywhere near me.

00:14:40.740 But if, you know, you work for one of the big banks and six traders on the desk got jammed up

00:14:45.920 and it was really an institutional problem and you guys were the scapegoats, then yeah.

00:14:51.300 I mean, I don't, to me, that's not a hardcore criminal.

00:14:54.020 That's not a hardcore criminal.

00:14:55.160 That's somebody who got swept up in a wave of problems.

00:14:58.620 They paid their price.

00:14:59.520 They paid their dues.

00:15:00.360 They paid their debt to society.

00:15:02.080 And yeah, I wouldn't, you know, go to sleep at night worried if they're going to go on a killing rampage in the office.

00:15:07.440 That's not the nature of the crime.

00:15:08.500 So for me, it's very situational for something like this.

00:15:13.200 But in the juvenile system, we don't have these controls.

00:15:17.800 We don't have these checks and balances.

00:15:20.400 And that's why we have a dead police officer, 29-year-old Amy Caprio, three years, 10 months on the job,

00:15:29.240 not even on the job, four years in Baltimore County, Maryland.

00:15:33.440 We now know, we brought you the story yesterday about police officer Caprio.

00:15:38.100 The juvenile justice system failed, failed.

00:15:42.480 Four teens were arrested.

00:15:43.920 They had committed a burglary.

00:15:45.120 They were committing a series of burglaries.

00:15:48.160 It is, it is absolutely, absolutely terrible.

00:15:52.280 The chief of the Baltimore County Police, Terry Sheridan, Terry Sheridan said that the teens were going into homes.

00:15:58.440 They were suspected in multiple burglaries.

00:16:00.000 They, quote, went inside stealing jewelry, cash, anything they can get their hands on.

00:16:05.180 So with that kind of linkage, we believe the four were acting together to commit these burglaries.

00:16:10.380 Now, the one charged with the first-degree murder of Officer Caprio, Donta Harris, a judge called him, judge called him a one-man crime wave.

00:16:23.040 Judge called him a one-man crime wave.

00:16:27.660 District judge over in Baltimore County, Sally Chester, said, I'm not, and she said, quote,

00:16:32.580 in the last six months, no offense, said this to his public defender, your client is a one-man crime wave.

00:16:38.280 I'm not certain any juvenile facility is secure enough to hold him.

00:16:43.520 The prosecutor, William Bickle, said, I will tell you, judge, he did, in fact, confess.

00:16:49.660 Remember yesterday, there was a little confusion as to what the initial call was, burglary or a suspicious vehicle.

00:16:55.080 And I said, well, it was probably both.

00:16:56.960 It originated as a burglary call, then other neighbors saw a suspicious vehicle.

00:17:00.500 Well, that turned out to be true.

00:17:02.140 And it's not because I'm clairvoyant.

00:17:03.400 It's just because that's pretty common in law enforcement.

00:17:05.900 I've responded to so many of those, I lost count.

00:17:09.040 Starts as a burglary.

00:17:10.280 You know, one neighbor has one vantage point, right?

00:17:11.980 They see people breaking into a home and maybe a side door.

00:17:15.700 But the other neighbor on that side can't see the door they broke into.

00:17:18.760 They just see this vehicle with four, three, four guys in it or one guy in it.

00:17:23.460 And it looks suspicious.

00:17:24.580 It's running.

00:17:25.340 He's looking around.

00:17:26.180 He's nervous.

00:17:26.780 He's looking in the house.

00:17:27.980 He's yelling things.

00:17:29.000 So they're seeing the suspicious vehicle.

00:17:31.060 That neighbor is seeing the burglary.

00:17:32.260 It's very common for those calls to come in together very rapidly and be very confusing.

00:17:38.660 And so it was both.

00:17:40.160 It turned out.

00:17:41.840 Police Officer Caprio arrives on the scene.

00:17:43.840 He sees this Jeep Wrangler.

00:17:45.000 Now, as is the case in suspicious vehicle calls, you get a description of the vehicle,

00:17:48.680 right?

00:17:48.860 If I'm calling about a vehicle, I'm going to tell the police what the vehicle looks like.

00:17:52.640 She gets behind the vehicle.

00:17:54.760 The vehicle starts to drive away into a courtyard area.

00:17:58.180 The vehicle then makes, so this is the vehicle.

00:18:00.140 It makes a U-turn.

00:18:01.460 Now, the vehicle is facing, the deputies here, the vehicle's facing her.

00:18:05.980 Donta Harris opens the door a little bit. 0.98

00:18:09.920 Police Officer Caprio, at this point, is out of her vehicle, ordering the suspects out of

00:18:14.240 theirs.

00:18:15.100 The driver, Donta Harris, opens his door a little bit and rapidly closes it, guns the 0.93

00:18:19.500 engine, runs her over. 0.97

00:18:21.740 Her body's thrown about 20 feet. 0.98

00:18:23.240 He runs her over.

00:18:24.640 Fight that.

00:18:25.900 She dies of trauma to the torso and head.

00:18:28.420 What a terrible way to die.

00:18:29.240 29 years old, three years, 10 months on the job.

00:18:33.160 Killed by this little savage, who the juvenile justice system kept letting slip through the

00:18:38.840 cracks.

00:18:39.220 Now, here's a tweet from yesterday from a guy named Brian Kubler.

00:18:44.220 Brian is an investigative reporter in Baltimore at WMAR2 News.

00:18:50.280 He tweeted, quote, prosecutors say Donta Harris was arrested four times for auto theft since

00:18:56.980 December 2017, the last time he was sentenced to home detention in West Baltimore.

00:19:03.460 West Baltimore is an absolute war zone.

00:19:05.700 If you've ever watched the show The Wire, that's West Baltimore, those neighborhoods.

00:19:10.120 It is a war zone.

00:19:12.900 The murder rate is 15 times greater than that of New York City.

00:19:16.760 And in certain tracks, census tracks in West Baltimore, 50 times higher, higher than some

00:19:23.320 places in Chicago.

00:19:24.400 It is a horrible, dangerous place.

00:19:27.240 He was sentenced to home detention in West Baltimore wearing an ankle bracelet.

00:19:30.800 The state state.

00:19:31.860 I mean, the prosecutor says he fled Gilmore Homes last week and stole the Jeep in question before

00:19:37.580 using it to kill Caprio, the police officer.

00:19:41.960 Four times for auto theft in six months.

00:19:45.500 And no one decided to remand this kid.

00:19:49.680 No one remanded this kid.

00:19:52.420 No one remanded this kid.

00:19:53.840 And it goes back to the story we were talking about yesterday about this, this Kelvin Rodriguez,

00:20:00.900 who is Kelvin Rodriguez, who took the photo next to the police car with the gun released

00:20:08.380 on his own recognizance.

00:20:11.080 Just it is graceful, graceful, and it's going to keep happening.

00:20:15.280 That's why the prison reform bill concerns me as much as it does.

00:20:18.680 That's why that prison reform bill concerns me as much as it does.

00:20:25.600 Because we have these left wing judges that are going to look at that. 0.98

00:20:30.300 Well, the nation on the whole is going soft on these bad guys.

00:20:33.860 Let me go soft.

00:20:34.700 Let me release them on their own recognizance.

00:20:36.960 Let me put the juvenile offenders back on the street. 0.98

00:20:40.380 To kill.

00:20:41.900 Let me put them back on the street to kill. 0.99

00:20:44.540 It is absolutely disgraceful.

00:20:47.140 Absolutely disgraceful.

00:20:48.680 And as I'm all for prison reform, if it helps calm things down, make the facility safer

00:20:55.220 for the guards, make these prisoners more employable, so they're less of a threat to

00:21:00.440 the public and law enforcement.

00:21:02.180 But I am not for it.

00:21:03.580 When liberal judges take advantage of it, misunderstand it, go soft, and set people back on the streets

00:21:09.400 to kill police officers and innocents.

00:21:11.700 I want to thank the Democratic Party for what they did in yesterday's primaries in four states.

00:21:28.560 They decided to disregard what American voters want.

00:21:34.640 They completely, completely ignored Conor Lamb's win against Saccone in Pennsylvania.

00:21:41.620 Conor Lamb concerned me, a conservative Democrat, former U.S. Marine, pro-gun, pro-life, an old-school

00:21:49.140 Democrat, a blue dog.

00:21:50.500 They completely disregarded that and went for the farthest left faction of the party.

00:21:56.280 Good opinion piece by Doug Schoen on foxnews.com.

00:22:00.400 He also wrote a very similar one a few days before the primaries in The Hill.

00:22:04.800 And Schoen writes,

00:22:05.840 As the Democratic Party struggles to find its identity in this primary season, it's clear

00:22:10.760 that Tuesday's contests continue to show the internal struggle for the party's future direction.

00:22:17.120 The results speak volumes.

00:22:18.980 Progressives are overwhelmingly beating their more moderate primary opponents.

00:22:24.860 And uncertainty remains around the Democratic Party's ability to retake the House in November.

00:22:31.080 Now, understand what all this means.

00:22:34.340 As Schoen goes on to write,

00:22:35.200 The growing progressive insurgency presents serious questions for the Democratic Party

00:22:39.880 as it continues its leftward movement.

00:22:43.080 Here is why.

00:22:44.380 Here is why I love this.

00:22:45.900 Okay, let me read you the election story.

00:22:47.360 The racist story.

00:22:48.380 In Georgia, former state House minority leader and staunch progressive Stacey Abrams

00:22:52.100 defeated moderate former state rep Stacey Evans by an overwhelming margin of 74 to 26.

00:23:00.160 Abrams, who is now one step closer to becoming the nation's first black female governor, 0.95

00:23:04.340 who notably received an endorsement from Hillary Clinton.

00:23:08.720 He's also backed by Bernie Sanders.

00:23:10.440 Very, very far left.

00:23:13.320 Very, very far left.

00:23:15.600 In Texas, progressive sheriff Lupe Valdez defeated moderate Democrat Andrew White.

00:23:22.880 In Georgia's 6th district in Atlanta.

00:23:26.120 And that's the special election race we had for Tom Price's seat.

00:23:29.420 Karen Handel won a special election last year.

00:23:32.680 It was the most expensive House race in history.

00:23:34.920 That other guy, John Ossoff, brought in like 11 or 18 million dollars from Hollywood.

00:23:40.300 The Democrat, he still lost.

00:23:41.580 His moderate former TV anchor, Bobby Capel, will face a community activist.

00:23:50.920 And that'll be a Democratic runoff primary in June.

00:23:54.260 He's facing Lucy.

00:23:55.080 He's facing Lucy McBath, a gun control activist.

00:23:57.880 Her son was shot and killed.

00:23:59.280 And there are a couple of other races around the country.

00:24:02.420 I'm not going to go through them all.

00:24:03.900 The reason I love this is that it's a midterm year.

00:24:08.440 Meaning that on both sides, on both sides, you typically get the super voters.

00:24:14.000 Voters that always vote.

00:24:15.440 Voters that vote in every election down a local school board.

00:24:18.100 They vote for dog catcher.

00:24:19.580 And those voters tend to be the most ideological.

00:24:23.120 Now on the Republican side, the Trump message is really resonating.

00:24:27.440 On the Democrat side, nationally, the far left message isn't.

00:24:33.900 But among those super voters, those Dem super voters, you're finding that only the farthest

00:24:38.260 left are coming out to vote in the local and statewide primary election.

00:24:45.120 Meaning the Democrats are fielding candidates that are not electable in the general election.

00:24:52.180 They're too far left.

00:24:55.320 Way too far left.

00:24:56.580 The two big races, the governor's race in Texas, Lupe Valdez is that sheriff in Texas

00:25:03.700 who's constantly posing with illegal aliens, who's in favor of Sanctuary City.

00:25:07.860 Texans don't want that. 0.77

00:25:09.160 Texas is a red state.

00:25:10.580 No matter how much they want you to believe Texas is going to go blue.

00:25:14.260 In Georgia, a radical progressive is not going to win.

00:25:20.440 Sure, Atlanta's a liberal city, but the rest of Georgia isn't.

00:25:23.720 It's going to be very, very difficult for a radically far left progressive to win statewide

00:25:29.080 office.

00:25:30.380 I want the Democrats to keep doing this.

00:25:33.060 And when it concerns a guy like Doug Schoen, who's a long time, Doug's an older guy, is a

00:25:37.720 long time Democratic political strategist.

00:25:40.560 I think we're going to see a bloodbath for the Democrats come November.

00:25:45.060 I think it's going to be terrible for the Democrats.

00:25:48.880 Now, a Reuters poll now has the GOP lightly up on the generic ballot in the midterms.

00:25:57.460 Republicans are leading by about a point.

00:26:00.520 1.4 to be exact.

00:26:02.200 With 15.4% undecided, 6.5% voting for a third party candidate, and 3.3%, 3.3% voting or not

00:26:17.160 planning to vote.

00:26:19.060 However, five days prior to this new Reuters poll, the numbers are flipped.

00:26:23.880 Democrats were up by 1.1, 16% undecided, 7% third party, 3.2% not voting at all.

00:26:35.320 What's interesting to me is of the undecideds, Republicans picked up.

00:26:40.680 Republicans picked up those undecideds.

00:26:43.840 I don't think Democrats win those 24 seats they need in November.

00:26:48.000 In fact, I can't see a path to victory for Democrats to retake the House.

00:26:51.780 They're going to get nowhere near the Senate, and we'll probably pick up seats in the Senate.

00:26:55.500 We're probably going to pick up in Florida here.

00:26:58.060 Rick Scott is going to pick up Bill Nelson's seat, so Florida should be an easy pickup for

00:27:02.800 Republicans.

00:27:03.960 Even Democrats don't like Bill Nelson.

00:27:05.400 He's been MIA, and Rick Scott got a lot of credit from Democrats for doing something

00:27:10.840 I didn't like.

00:27:11.540 He went a little soft on guns, banning bump stocks, and raising the age limit to purchase

00:27:16.200 firearms, long guns in the state.

00:27:19.040 And he performed incredibly well, incredibly well when the hurricanes hit us last year.

00:27:25.820 So I don't see any problem with Rick Scott winning that seat.

00:27:31.100 Now, as far as the House goes, Republicans are up on the generic Barrett.

00:27:35.520 Rasmussen has Trump still around 50%, despite all the attacks.

00:27:40.280 And so I don't see how Democrats recover from this.

00:27:42.640 But back to the races in Georgia, when these far-left Democrats aren't looking at the writing

00:27:47.320 on the wall now, the Lamb-Saconne race in Pennsylvania, that district, man, it is so

00:27:53.900 representative of the Rust Belt, so representative of the areas that cost Hillary Clinton the

00:27:59.860 presidential election.

00:28:01.340 The Democratic Party is run by far-leftists, right?

00:28:03.460 It's run by Tom Perez and Keith Ellison.

00:28:05.740 A lot of input from Hillary.

00:28:07.160 Nancy Pelosi is juiced because she brings money into the party. 1.00

00:28:10.740 People like Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer bring money in.

00:28:13.080 They're all very far-left.

00:28:14.540 But if they're not looking, I mean, who are their strategists?

00:28:18.620 If they're not looking at that Pennsylvania race and saying, well, that race is, I mean,

00:28:23.720 that Pennsylvania, that Lamb-Saconne race was perfectly representative of what Democrats

00:28:31.120 would need to win in the midterms and need to win in 2020.

00:28:33.960 They picked up a win there.

00:28:35.480 They looked at the data.

00:28:36.640 They looked at the candidate and they said, eh, not radical enough, not communist enough,

00:28:44.100 not socialist enough.

00:28:45.040 Nope.

00:28:45.680 We're going to go with the lunatics on the fringe left.

00:28:48.960 I couldn't be happier.

00:28:50.820 I could not be happier that Democrats are doing that to themselves.

00:28:55.300 This is a Christmas present that they're doing this to themselves.

00:29:00.020 This is, I don't know if they want to lose.

00:29:02.560 I don't know if they're where the Republican Party was years back, and I'm sorry I keep

00:29:07.340 doing that.

00:29:08.100 My allergies are absolutely terrible.

00:29:10.140 We had terrible rain down here in South Florida for the last couple of weeks.

00:29:13.660 It's continuing, a little bit sunny outside the studio today, but my allergies are just

00:29:18.920 shot because of the change in weather.

00:29:20.860 So I apologize for my voice and sounding like I have a cold.

00:29:24.580 But Democrats are going to, well, I don't know what they're thinking.

00:29:28.300 I don't know if they're just that ideologically left, that they are completely out of touch

00:29:36.300 with the rest of the nation.

00:29:39.020 Perhaps that's it.

00:29:40.800 Perhaps that Conor Lamb, Rick Saccone race was really just an anomaly.

00:29:45.180 That was one pocket of America, the Rust Belt, the working class people in the Midwest into 0.99

00:29:50.420 Pennsylvania.

00:29:51.340 Perhaps they're just an anomaly.

00:29:53.680 Leftovers from the blue dog Democrat days.

00:29:55.520 Hardworking, patriotic Americans that voted them because Democrats were better on their

00:30:02.500 industry.

00:30:02.980 Democrats had closer relationships with their unions that kept them working and earning a

00:30:06.260 good wage.

00:30:07.180 That might be it.

00:30:08.640 That might be it.

00:30:09.540 They might not be representative of the nation as a whole.

00:30:12.980 I think they are.

00:30:14.380 I think they are.

00:30:15.380 The Democratic Party, though, believes, because think about where the money's coming from in

00:30:20.500 the Democratic Party.

00:30:21.240 Nancy Pelosi in her district, which is her district, which is probably the farthest left 0.77

00:30:27.940 place in the United States.

00:30:29.720 He's in the most liberal district in San Francisco.

00:30:33.380 And Chuck Schumer, who spends his time around the far left elitists in New York City and Washington,

00:30:39.300 D.C.

00:30:40.160 They don't go to the Rust Belt.

00:30:41.760 They don't go to the heartland.

00:30:43.080 They don't come down here to Florida and speak to the Cuban community down in Miami, the most

00:30:48.020 patriotic, conservative, hardworking people you will ever meet.

00:30:52.780 Cubans are far more patriotic.

00:30:55.740 They love America far more than any New York City liberal does.

00:30:59.320 The Cuban community in Miami and pockets in Union City, New Jersey, they bleed red, white, 1.00

00:31:03.800 and blue.

00:31:04.660 These people love America.

00:31:06.100 They love freedom.

00:31:08.160 The elitists in the Democratic Party don't go and speak to them.

00:31:11.000 No, Tom Perez goes down and talks to Lupe Valdez and Art Acevedo, the Houston police

00:31:17.480 chief who wants to stand by illegal aliens, take guns away from law abiding people and

00:31:21.840 criticize other police agencies for dare enforcing crime against bad guys.

00:31:27.600 Well, this is who the Democratic Party believes are the barometers of what the nation wants.

00:31:32.940 But it isn't.

00:31:34.040 It isn't.

00:31:34.780 And I think the Democratic Party is going to be in for a really, really rude awakening.

00:31:40.540 In both 2018 and the midterms.

00:31:44.900 Look, midterm years are typically very low turnout anyway.

00:31:48.760 Very, very low turnout in midterms.

00:31:51.520 People just aren't excited.

00:31:52.740 They get excited about presidential elections.

00:31:55.060 It's a big midterm year in a lot of respects.

00:31:58.300 But for a couple of governor's races and a few governor's races around the nation and some

00:32:02.420 Senate races, there's really nobody out there that anybody is particularly jazzed up about.

00:32:08.460 There really isn't.

00:32:10.000 I don't predict huge turnout in these congressional races.

00:32:13.100 I don't predict big turnout in the Senate races.

00:32:17.080 And the gubernatorial races, I think, are going to be average for a midterm year.

00:32:20.120 But what is what is inflaming passion is our statements from people like Representative Al

00:32:28.960 Green, that if Democrats take back the House, Speaker Pelosi will most definitely impeach Donald

00:32:35.460 Trump.

00:32:36.780 Not getting Democrats out to vote for Democrats, but it is getting Republicans and it is getting

00:32:41.680 crossover Democrats who voted for Trump, who are very happy with more money in their

00:32:45.300 paychecks.

00:32:46.760 We're very happy about the way things are going.

00:32:49.500 It is going to get them to the polls to make sure it doesn't happen.

00:32:53.040 But people aren't really going to vote for something as much as they're going to vote

00:32:56.220 against the concept of impeachment.

00:32:58.400 Right now, the Democrats have no message.

00:33:01.140 Nancy Pelosi is running on raising taxes. 0.93

00:33:03.940 In the last 10 days, the Democrats platform has been defending Hamas terrorists trying to

00:33:09.620 invade Israel and crying hysterically that Donald Trump called raping, murdering MS-13

00:33:15.440 savages animals.

00:33:17.740 That's their platform.

00:33:19.500 Raising taxes, supporting terrorists, supporting criminals and supporting illegal spying on

00:33:24.360 American citizens who worked for or volunteered with the Trump campaign.

00:33:28.420 That's not a platform.

00:33:30.100 You can't win on that platform.

00:33:32.580 But it's all the Democrats have.

00:33:36.300 And the turnout and who they voted for in those primaries last night confirmed that to me.

00:33:43.240 And I have to tell you, that makes me a very, very happy guy going into 2018 and 2020, because

00:33:48.840 I think forget a forget a blue wave.

00:33:51.080 It's not going to be a blue trickle.

00:33:52.780 I think Republicans pick up seats in the Senate, and I think we easily, Republicans easily keep

00:33:59.520 the House in November.

00:34:12.320 Let's talk a little bit about the way the media reports things, depending on who's saying it.

00:34:17.580 Now, when a conservative, even so much as says the word firearm, in the media, the left-wing

00:34:25.000 media is hysterical.

00:34:26.080 All conservatives are crazy.

00:34:27.780 We want to have our guns.

00:34:29.280 We're going to go on shooting sprees.

00:34:30.440 We hate children.

00:34:33.180 We want to see school shootings.

00:34:34.940 The NRA is a terrorist organization.

00:34:37.460 Blah, blah, blah.

00:34:38.940 But when Democrats say things, when people who are anti-Trump say things, oh, it doesn't

00:34:43.940 even make anybody bat an eye.

00:34:46.920 Now, Lawrence Tribe, Harvard Law professor and known Trump critic, he's all over social

00:34:51.740 media.

00:34:52.060 He even engages in conspiracy theories with those lunatics who were saying Trump's going to

00:34:56.360 die in prison and Russiagate is real.

00:34:58.660 It's all crazy.

00:34:59.640 We're seeing now that the table's a turn.

00:35:01.880 But Lawrence Tribe went on CNN, and he was speaking on CNN's new day to insufferable

00:35:06.600 Chris Cuomo, and Tribe said something.

00:35:09.740 Now, Chris Cuomo could have jumped all over Tribe and had him clarify.

00:35:14.700 However, the right is losing their minds on social media, and I don't agree with them

00:35:19.100 either.

00:35:19.580 But let's go into what Lawrence Tribe said.

00:35:22.660 Chris, Lawrence Tribe used the terms.

00:35:26.140 Let me give you the exchange between Cuomo and Lawrence Tribe.

00:35:34.100 Cuomo noted that Tribe's book comes with a note.

00:35:36.940 His book is called The End of Presidency, The Power of Impeachment, and The Resistance.

00:35:42.120 Well, he's a resistance guy.

00:35:44.280 Hashtag resistance guy on Twitter.

00:35:45.740 And he was warning Democrats about throwing the impeachment card down too hastily, too quickly.

00:35:52.700 Tribe explained that impeachment is not about, quote, garden-variety crime, but about abusing

00:35:57.820 the authority that we give to high officials like the president.

00:36:00.080 Now, Tribe is hysterical, but Trump hasn't abused his authority.

00:36:02.700 He can fire people.

00:36:04.440 Guy directed the Attorney General.

00:36:06.180 Whomever he wants.

00:36:06.960 And he said impeachment, quote, will be available if we don't use it loosely and ring the bell

00:36:14.200 every time something looks amiss.

00:36:16.400 You can't be the boy who cried wolf and have a viable impeachment.

00:36:20.440 You can't use it over and over again against the same president.

00:36:25.400 He's right about that.

00:36:26.580 Now, this is the quote in question.

00:36:28.800 Republicans losing their minds and conservatives and some of the alt-right people who really

00:36:33.820 don't think things through, doing exactly what Tribe warned against, crying wolf.

00:36:38.560 Tribe said, quote, if you're going to shoot him, you have to shoot to kill, end quote.

00:36:43.840 So that's the part of the quote they see.

00:36:46.040 Lawrence Tribe wants to shoot President Trump.

00:36:47.960 Call the Secret Service at, no, he didn't.

00:36:50.320 Look, I don't like Larry Tribe.

00:36:52.060 I think the guy is misguided.

00:36:53.400 I can't believe he teaches at Harvard with some of the loony conspiracy theories he floats.

00:36:57.800 But he went on to say, and that requires, so he said, if you're going to shoot him,

00:37:01.400 you have to shoot to kill. 0.55

00:37:02.440 And that requires an overwhelming majority of a bipartisan kind.

00:37:08.100 Otherwise, you're just going to nick the guy and make him feel empowered and vindicated,

00:37:11.760 end quote.

00:37:12.920 And what he's talking about is the political sense.

00:37:15.820 I say it all the time when I'm talking about politicians and messaging.

00:37:20.740 If you're going after bear, shoot to kill.

00:37:22.900 If you're going after a major, very powerful politician with a lot of money in their campaign

00:37:29.180 account with very well-funded PACs backing them and you take a shot, not a literal shot

00:37:34.940 from a gun.

00:37:36.000 But if you put a story out in the media to hurt or damage them and you don't have the

00:37:41.180 resources they have, that story better be what we call a kill shot.

00:37:45.520 It better do irreparable damage to their career.

00:37:48.740 Otherwise, they're going to come at you very viciously and they're probably going to kill

00:37:54.120 off your career.

00:37:56.220 And that's the context.

00:37:58.000 That's the context.

00:37:59.180 You assert that Lawrence Tribe was talking about people going out there and shooting the

00:38:03.600 killing the president.

00:38:04.560 Everybody said, oh, this comes after death threats.

00:38:06.500 And this comes after the guy shot up Trump to Ralph.

00:38:10.360 But it's only the people on the right in this case.

00:38:12.880 Look, I'm an equal opportunity critic when need be.

00:38:16.180 It's the people on the right taking that soundbite out of context.

00:38:20.260 But what they're really doing is counterproductive because now if a Second Amendment advocate to

00:38:26.560 make a point goes and takes a shot at Larry Tribe, at Lawrence Tribe, just to scare him,

00:38:32.120 lets a round go.

00:38:32.740 Now, we on the right are all going to be painted as lunatics who engage in violence.

00:38:37.220 The left is going to work overtime to say that Lawrence Tribe used a metaphorical narrative

00:38:41.660 talking about very common in the media business, in the political business.

00:38:45.240 We call them kill shots.

00:38:46.760 Somebody drops a really damaging story.

00:38:48.520 I probably said it on the show.

00:38:49.700 Stormy Daniels is a dud. 0.99

00:38:50.860 It's a blank.

00:38:51.380 It's not a kill shot.

00:38:53.040 It's a commonly used term.

00:38:55.260 And for people on the right to make it out to be something it isn't actually does a disservice

00:39:00.100 to the right.

00:39:00.620 If, God forbid, some lunatic who identifies his right and enjoys the Second Amendment,

00:39:08.340 the rights it affords us, the Second Amendment, or I should say the rights that it tells government

00:39:13.560 it can not take away from us, we're all going to be blamed on the right.

00:39:17.400 It's going to be worse for us.

00:39:18.820 We are sometimes, especially when it comes to the alt-right, our own worst enemy.

00:39:23.280 They think they're being creative.

00:39:24.700 They think they're being gotcha.

00:39:25.740 They think framing that out of context is going to damage the other guy, but it's not.

00:39:29.960 It's just not intelligent.

00:39:31.960 It's not an intelligent way, a strategic way to go about damaging the other side, the side 1.00

00:39:38.620 that really wants to damage this nation.

00:39:41.600 And the mainstream media is complicit.

00:39:44.280 Hunter Pollock.

00:39:45.560 Hunter is the brother of Meadow Pollock, who was killed at Stoneman Douglas High School in

00:39:51.140 Parkland.

00:39:51.660 He and his dad, Andrew, have done a phenomenal job, very apolitical.

00:39:56.620 They lean a little bit right, the Pollock family, but they haven't engaged in politics.

00:40:01.260 But Hunter Pollock is right.

00:40:02.960 He put out a tweet yesterday about the shooting at Santa Fe High School in Texas.

00:40:08.720 And Hunter Pollock wrote, he lost his sister.

00:40:10.800 He speaks with authority.

00:40:11.660 It's sick that since the majority of Santa Fe students oppose gun control and favor school

00:40:18.040 security measures instead, that the media won't give them nearly as much coverage as

00:40:23.580 the Marjory Stoneman MSD, Marjory Stoneman Douglas students, students of Santa Fe High School.

00:40:29.140 My DMs are open to work together with you.

00:40:31.620 I know your pain.

00:40:33.480 Hashtag fix it.

00:40:35.360 And Hunter Pollock does know their pain.

00:40:37.400 Young sister was gunned down brutally by Nicholas Cruz. 0.62

00:40:40.240 He does know their pain.

00:40:43.200 Heartbreaking.

00:40:44.400 But he's right.

00:40:45.540 A couple of days ago, I tweeted.

00:40:48.520 Four days ago.

00:40:50.880 Here's an image of my Twitter.

00:40:52.460 At CNN, why no town hall for the Santa Fe school shooting?

00:40:55.320 Is it because he, I won't say the shooter's name.

00:40:57.600 He didn't use an AR-15 and this community supports the Second Amendment?

00:41:01.200 Michelle Malkin quote tweeted Hunter Pollock this morning.

00:41:05.100 Michelle said, and this is why the Santa Fe kids won't get a CNN town hall. 0.99

00:41:10.240 It's disgraceful.

00:41:12.020 It's disgraceful that CNN that presents itself as hard news has ignored, has ignored the families

00:41:20.260 of the victims in Santa Fe.

00:41:21.640 They don't get a town hall.

00:41:23.240 They don't get to give their opinion on gun safety, on school security, because they're

00:41:28.720 not anti-gun, because they don't have a Ted Deutch and a Debbie Wasserman Schultz out there

00:41:33.200 in front of them, because every town wasn't embraced there, every town for gun safety,

00:41:37.980 Michael Bloomberg's far-left funded group, Moms Demand.

00:41:40.640 No, this is Texas.

00:41:42.720 They love their Second Amendment.

00:41:45.180 They would rather see the school hardened.

00:41:46.860 They would rather see armed personnel in the schools.

00:41:49.180 And they have a media blackout.

00:41:52.400 It is absolutely disgraceful.

00:41:55.180 And it's just a very interesting example of the way different these, all these examples,

00:41:59.480 Lawrence Tribe saying what he said, because if Lawrence Tribe had said, if you're going to

00:42:02.900 shoot, shoot to kill, and he was a Republican strategist talking about Obama, it would have

00:42:07.360 been CNN that framed his quote out of context.

00:42:11.460 Chris Cuomo would have attacked him.

00:42:13.160 And it would have been stupid, and we would have criticized them for doing that.

00:42:18.360 But we shouldn't do it, because we look stupid when we do it.

00:42:22.580 But what the mainstream media is doing by not giving the Santa Fe victims, 10 dead, 10 dead,

00:42:30.440 by not giving these victims and their families the same forum that they gave the anti-gunners,

00:42:35.440 because these families, these families are not anti-gun, is disgraceful.

00:42:39.740 And I think the president is right when he wants to talk about pulling the credentials

00:42:43.520 of certain outlets.

00:42:45.040 CNN is no longer news.

00:42:46.900 It is far-left opinion.

00:42:49.560 It's not news.

00:42:51.200 There's nothing objective about what they do.

00:42:54.780 And I just hope in this AT&T takeover of Time Warner that we're going to see, let's call

00:42:59.580 them, editorial changes at outlets like CNN.

00:43:03.780 The New York Times is salivating on news that a guy named Evgeny Friedman, who's a business

00:43:20.940 partner of Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen, the guy who I think is being persecuted for only

00:43:25.460 being Donald Trump's lawyer.

00:43:27.120 Well, the New York Times, I'm reading a CNBC story, because I don't even want to read the

00:43:30.240 New York Times story.

00:43:31.360 The New York Times is salivating.

00:43:33.300 Their headline, well, the CNBC headline is, Michael Cohen's business partner, Evgeny Friedman,

00:43:37.840 agrees to cooperate as part of plea deals.

00:43:40.460 New York Times.

00:43:41.540 Now, this guy has agreed to cooperate with federal and state prosecutors.

00:43:46.580 You would think, by the way, the New York Times and CNBC and all these others are salivating,

00:43:51.160 that this is about the president, that he's a law partner of Michael Cohen, that he has

00:43:57.160 worked with Donald Trump.

00:43:58.580 But no, this guy, Friedman, is somebody called the taxi king of New York City.

00:44:05.980 And what Friedman does, Michael Cohen is invested into taxi medallions.

00:44:11.240 And if you don't know what those are in New York City, yellow cabs in New York City, ones

00:44:15.840 you can wave down that have a meter, those famous yellow cabs on the hood of the vehicles.

00:44:20.520 I'm sure you've seen it, but if you haven't, if you've never been in New York City or you

00:44:23.160 didn't notice it, riveted in as a medallion.

00:44:25.900 And that's exactly what it sounds like.

00:44:28.700 Black with a number, it says New York City Taxi and Limousine Commission.

00:44:32.440 And that medallion is what enables that cab to be yellow, to operate with a meter and

00:44:38.780 run under their control in the New York City and Taxi and Limousine Commission.

00:44:41.660 And the numbers of those medallions are regulated.

00:44:44.060 And it's a very big business.

00:44:45.900 You buy these medallions for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:44:48.300 Most of the cabbies you see out there lease those cars day to day.

00:44:52.700 The medallions are owned by companies that own many of them, large companies.

00:44:56.920 This guy, Friedman, being one.

00:44:58.800 And he was the biggest.

00:45:01.200 And Michael Cohen was in that business.

00:45:06.960 And he and Friedman were partners.

00:45:09.640 This has nothing to do with Donald Trump or anything having to do with legal representation

00:45:16.120 of Donald Trump.

00:45:17.580 Friedman, Friedman pleaded guilty for tax evasion up in Albany, New York.

00:45:24.460 And the Times is suggesting that Friedman's cooperation, quote, could be used as leverage

00:45:28.560 to pressure Cohen to work with Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

00:45:32.100 Why?

00:45:32.920 Why?

00:45:33.500 A guy invested on tax, a guy, a guy indicted and pled guilty to tax evasion in Albany,

00:45:39.960 upstate New York.

00:45:40.800 Why would he in any way, shape or form have anything to do with the president of the United

00:45:45.660 States?

00:45:45.980 It's like the reporters of the New York Times doesn't, the reporters of the New York Times

00:45:49.700 don't even understand that.

00:45:51.500 Now, Friedman managed taxi cabs for Cohen.

00:45:55.440 At one point, Friedman was one of the largest operators of taxi medallions in New York City.

00:45:59.760 Interestingly enough, when I first started getting my feet wet in politics, I was still

00:46:04.520 in the NYPD.

00:46:05.560 I crossed paths with the police.

00:46:09.040 They were very politically involved.

00:46:11.720 And I remember an older, older man, he's now passed away, was a very powerful attorney

00:46:16.240 in New York City.

00:46:17.380 He knew them very well.

00:46:19.300 He knew the family very well.

00:46:20.540 He died about 10 years ago and he was a political mentor of mine.

00:46:24.800 And he knew them.

00:46:26.740 And they really were powerhouses in that business, in the taxi cab business.

00:46:30.740 They had nothing to do with real estate.

00:46:32.140 They had nothing to do with Donald Trump.

00:46:33.400 Michael Cohen had always been, as a matter of family investments, involved in those

00:46:37.640 taxi medallions.

00:46:39.080 Very lucrative business.

00:46:40.040 Why wouldn't he be?

00:46:41.740 And the New York Times is reaching.

00:46:46.220 CNN reported last month that prosecutors are interested in Cohen's financial dealing

00:46:49.960 with a husband and wife who in a large tax business in Chicago.

00:46:53.440 Well, prosecutors are interested in everything surrounding Donald Trump.

00:46:56.160 They want to know what Donald Trump ate at a diner in 1985 to see if Donald Trump doesn't

00:47:02.280 drink.

00:47:03.520 But if he did, you can bet they would be going to every bar in New York City saying, did

00:47:05.840 he ever order a white Russian or a black Russian?

00:47:08.120 Collusion!

00:47:09.120 It's ridiculous.

00:47:10.460 Friedman was arrested last June on charges that he and another business partner stole

00:47:13.840 more than $5 million in state surcharges that are imposed on taxi rides in New York

00:47:19.240 City.

00:47:19.460 So, the cabs collect all this money and they never sent the state surcharges, which are

00:47:27.080 tacked on at the fair to the state.

00:47:28.660 People get arrested for this all the time by not sending sales tax, surcharges, excise

00:47:32.700 taxes, things like that.

00:47:34.200 Excuse me.

00:47:34.960 It's common.

00:47:36.920 The amount of taxes he pled guilty to evading was much less than that.

00:47:40.380 Only 50 grand.

00:47:41.440 Not even a major case.

00:47:42.480 Other cases involved in agreement to cooperate with prosecutors, probably against the other

00:47:48.240 people involved in the taxi and tax scam, not against Donald Trump.

00:47:53.440 So, they keep going back and forth, back and forth.

00:47:55.700 Now, they bring in Stormy Daniels.

00:47:57.200 It's so ridiculous.

00:47:58.860 It's absolutely ridiculous.

00:48:00.440 A guy who helped Michael Cohen manage taxi cabs and taxi medallions several years ago

00:48:07.540 gets arrested in upstate New York on tax evasion with a completely different business partner

00:48:13.480 and the New York Times, CNBC, and the mainstream media are salivating.

00:48:17.440 The complicity that the mainstream media has with Robert Mueller and his team, it's tragic

00:48:23.400 at this point.

00:48:24.640 And stories like this, stories like this are only designed to hurt the president and people

00:48:29.500 around him.

00:48:30.440 But like we spoke about in the last segment, it's not a kill shot.

00:48:34.600 Or was it, you know, it's not.

00:48:36.780 It's, it's, this isn't even a blank.

00:48:39.540 This isn't even a dud.

00:48:40.840 It's like, you know, me, I'm, I'm on air.

00:48:43.780 I'm a conservative.

00:48:44.480 And let's say we had a liberal administration and the liberal administration was coming after

00:48:48.900 me because I was critical of that.

00:48:51.000 And a guy that I worked in the police department with 18 years ago gets jammed up because in

00:48:58.480 retirement, he evades taxes in his new business.

00:49:01.700 You know how they would report it?

00:49:04.080 Cardillo's, Cardillo's former NYPD partner indicted, cooperating with prosecutors could

00:49:10.520 spell trouble for Cardillo.

00:49:12.000 I mean, that's how stupid this is.

00:49:14.120 That's how loose the connections are.

00:49:15.900 And it is absolutely journalistic malpractice for the New York Times and the rest of the

00:49:21.620 mainstream media to run headlines like this.

Rebel News Podcast - May 23, 2018

Off The Cuff Declassified - John Cardillo - May 23⧸2018

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