Rebel News Podcast - Off The Cuff Declassified - John Cardillo - May 3⧸2018

00:00:00.000 Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, we're going to be talking about Rudy Giuliani's

00:00:03.760 earth-shattering interview with Sean Hannity.

00:00:07.980 Big League Politics Editor-in-Chief Patrick Howley joins me to discuss the latest

00:00:11.740 on the Hillary email reveal and the Mueller investigation.

00:00:17.060 Also, we're going to discuss this really disturbing far-left slide by the Boy Scouts of America,

00:00:22.640 or now just the Scouts BSA.

00:00:26.160 And is the deep state weaponizing against Trump nominees by slowing down their security

00:00:32.700 clearances?

00:00:38.900 Well, Rudy Giuliani, man, did he change the game last night during his interview with Sean

00:00:45.260 Hannity.

00:00:45.760 I'm still trying to process this.

00:00:48.460 I don't know if Giuliani is the most brilliant legal mind next to Alan Dershowitz, or he's

00:00:53.220 lost his mind. 1.00

00:00:54.640 I don't know if he's crazy like a fox or just crazy. 0.93

00:00:57.640 If you didn't watch the interview, if you're not seeing the headlines, I know that I take 0.84

00:01:01.360 for granted that most people are paying attention to this.

00:01:03.520 That's what I do.

00:01:05.200 Many others have lives and families, and they're not news junkies.

00:01:09.660 So we try to sum it up for you as accurately and comprehensively as humanly possible.

00:01:16.180 If you haven't seen the interview, Giuliani dropped the bombshell that Donald Trump did,

00:01:21.600 in fact, reimburse his attorney, Michael Cohen, for $130,000 hush money payment to porn star

00:01:28.460 Stormy Daniels.

00:01:29.320 Of course, Stormy Daniels is alleging that Donald Trump had an extramarital affair with

00:01:34.980 her while Melania Trump was pregnant with their youngest son, Barron, for a few months

00:01:40.360 before or after Barron was born.

00:01:42.320 I don't pay enough attention to Stormy Daniels, nor do I care to get into the minutia of the

00:01:46.440 details.

00:01:47.720 But what Giuliani said that was even more important is that it's not illegal for Trump

00:01:54.040 to do that.

00:01:54.620 And that's really the crux of this particular segment.

00:01:57.980 Now, what the left is trying to make you believe is that Donald Trump, a multi-billionaire

00:02:03.940 with billions, tens of billions of dollars in properties and assets, would have taken

00:02:08.220 money from his campaign to reimburse Michael Cohen, or he funneled money through the campaign

00:02:16.100 to pay Stormy Daniels off. 0.96

00:02:18.640 That would have been moronic, and it would have been illegal.

00:02:23.380 Now, the reason the left, and I'm going to tell you why I don't think that's the case, 0.72

00:02:26.080 the reason the left wants you to believe that narrative is because that's precisely what

00:02:31.400 Hillary Clinton did to pay Fusion GPS, right? 0.86

00:02:35.000 Hillary Clinton funneled the payments, Fusion GPS, that ultimately paid Christopher Steele to

00:02:40.300 create the dossier.

00:02:41.720 She funneled them through her law firm, Perkins Coie.

00:02:44.820 That's now provable fact.

00:02:47.280 So the left has to say, well, Trump did the same with Stormy Daniels.

00:02:51.700 There's very, very little evidence.

00:02:53.380 So Donald Trump, rather than Rudy Giuliani, drops a bombshell that Donald Trump did, in

00:03:01.860 fact, reimburse Michael Cohen.

00:03:04.880 But Giuliani clarified how he did that.

00:03:07.560 And what Giuliani said initially, and the exchange with Sean Hannity is very, very interesting,

00:03:13.080 Giuliani said, quote, about the payment, and about the payment that Michael Cohen made to

00:03:19.360 Stormy Daniels, Giuliani said, that's what lawyers do all the time.

00:03:23.300 Giuliani said he does it for his wealthy, high-profile clients.

00:03:26.500 Lawyers around the country do it.

00:03:29.140 They do it.

00:03:29.640 Look, I tell you all the time, when I had my business, I was involved in a lawsuit.

00:03:33.080 We gave our attorneys.

00:03:34.580 I was very busy.

00:03:35.580 I was traveling.

00:03:36.800 I was, I had spent that year, I did the math on it, and I saw my rewards.

00:03:41.300 Something like 120, 130 nights in hotels, one particular hotel chain, and I had, it was

00:03:49.640 a ridiculous amount of points, like 200,000 points from that particular hotel chain.

00:03:54.060 I got a week's vacation out of it, like a 10-day vacation.

00:03:57.160 I was very, very busy.

00:03:58.280 I was traveling.

00:03:59.280 I was on a plane every other day.

00:04:00.600 And I gave our lawyers in that lawsuit discretion to settle the suit up to a certain dollar amount

00:04:09.060 to pay the settlement if I was unreachable, and then they would bill our company, and we

00:04:15.620 would reimburse our law firm.

00:04:17.260 It's a very common practice, a very common practice in the legal game.

00:04:23.500 Now, a lawyer's not going to front money for someone they don't know, but if they know

00:04:27.960 you're solvent, our attorneys had our banking information, they knew we were solvent, they

00:04:32.060 knew we had the means to repay them, we were always current on our legal fees.

00:04:36.780 They understood that as a client, to keep us as a client, we were paying a good size retainer

00:04:42.360 every month because we dealt with a lot of regulatory issues, we needed them, that it

00:04:46.280 was smart business for them to advance the money, and then they would send us a bill,

00:04:49.320 and our CPA would wire them the money.

00:04:52.320 It's a very common practice in law.

00:04:55.380 It happens all the time.

00:04:56.960 It happens all the time.

00:04:58.960 Now, I'm not saying a law firm, if the tobacco industry has to pay billions upon billions,

00:05:03.460 a law firm is infronting that.

00:05:04.880 But when the amount is $100,000, $200,000, and it's a large law firm with millions in

00:05:08.980 the bank, oftentimes, to just get rid of the case, they'll front the money, they'll bill

00:05:13.660 the client, the client will reimburse the law firm, and it pretty much goes away.

00:05:18.240 And that's exactly what happened with Stormy Daniels. 0.98

00:05:20.300 It was a lot cheaper to pay this woman off, even if all of her claims are bogus, than it 0.98

00:05:24.720 was to potentially spend hundreds more of thousands in legal fees, or damage the Trump

00:05:31.660 organization brand to the tune of millions, $10 million.

00:05:34.900 It wasn't worth it.

00:05:36.260 $130,000, while not a little bit of money, in the grand scheme of a multibillion-dollar

00:05:41.560 corporation is a mere pittance.

00:05:43.040 It's half the salary of a third of the salary of senior-level executives.

00:05:49.200 It's something that you do a cost-benefit analysis on, and you pay.

00:05:53.400 So Giuliani said that Trump repaid the money, then he explained how.

00:05:58.000 But what Giuliani said that's most important, that's what I want to talk about.

00:06:01.620 Giuliani declared that, quote, the payment, quote, is going to turn out to be perfectly

00:06:06.880 legal.

00:06:07.440 No, that money was not campaign money.

00:06:10.860 Sorry, I'm giving you a fact now that you don't know.

00:06:13.800 It's not campaign money, no campaign finance violation, end quote.

00:06:19.660 And that right there, if Giuliani's statement is accurate, and I have zero reason to believe

00:06:24.420 it's not, I believe it's entirely accurate, that right there puts to bed the argument that

00:06:30.580 something illegal transpired in the paying off of Stormy Daniels.

00:06:33.340 It might not be the most tasteful thing to the sanctimonious or the moral.

00:06:40.660 I'm sure large portions of the evangelical community will have an issue with a sitting 0.83

00:06:45.760 president paying off via his lawyer a porn star.

00:06:48.940 But it's not illegal.

00:06:50.300 It's not illegal.

00:06:52.260 A person, a business, can choose to pay for anything they want as long as they're doing

00:06:58.660 something legal.

00:06:59.440 They can't choose to pay for a kilo of cocaine, but if their attorney chooses to settle a lawsuit

00:07:04.680 and they said to their attorney, the attorney knows they're very, very wealthy, and their

00:07:09.780 attorney has blanket discretion to settle in advance funds up to, say, half a million

00:07:14.440 dollars, in this case, $130,000.

00:07:16.940 It is perfectly legal.

00:07:19.100 It is perfectly acceptable.

00:07:20.660 In fact, it happens around the world hundreds of times.

00:07:24.920 I would say in the U.S., it's probably happening hundreds of times while we record this segment,

00:07:30.000 while I bring you this segment.

00:07:31.120 Around the world, probably thousands of times in the length it took me to record this segment.

00:07:36.300 It is what lawyers do for clients every day of the week.

00:07:39.280 It is the nature of being an attorney, being an attorney for a wealthy, powerful, notable

00:07:45.080 person.

00:07:45.600 It's what lawyers in Hollywood do daily, hourly with some clients.

00:07:50.700 This is not anything improper, not anything illegal.

00:07:55.180 And if Donald Trump then wrote a check for more wired money from his personal accounts

00:07:59.780 or the Trump organization or a trust, anything but the campaign, now I can tell you, I don't

00:08:05.940 believe for a single solitary second that Donald Trump used campaign money, and I'll tell you

00:08:10.400 why.

00:08:10.620 I am very, very close to, very personally friendly with, I've done business with, three or four

00:08:18.460 of the individuals who were state directors, who ran states for the Trump campaign, two

00:08:25.840 of which went up to Trump Tower.

00:08:28.220 The budgets of the Trump campaign were very, very slim.

00:08:33.300 Donald Trump believed in zero-based budgets.

00:08:35.980 In other words, he gives you X amount of dollars.

00:08:38.400 You estimate you need X amount of dollars, you spend that money, you shouldn't have a

00:08:42.500 surplus, you shouldn't have a deficit.

00:08:45.000 And one of them told me a story that they had an overall budget for their state, and

00:08:50.820 they came in under budget.

00:08:52.220 Now, he would be happy if you come in under budget, but a zero-based budget would indicate

00:08:55.560 you don't.

00:08:56.020 But if you came in under budget, he's the happiest guy in the world as a business person.

00:08:59.360 And every line item was either on budget or slightly under budget.

00:09:03.640 One line item was slightly over budget, but the entire budget came in well under budget

00:09:10.260 into the tens of thousands of dollars on a program costing hundreds of thousands of

00:09:14.680 dollars.

00:09:15.120 So a good percentage of money was saved.

00:09:17.160 And they said to me, you know, the only thing Donald Trump focused on, we didn't get a pat

00:09:20.460 on the back for being totally under budget or under budget on 19 or 20 line items.

00:09:25.200 The only thing he focused on was that one line item that was over budget and told them

00:09:29.280 be better prepared.

00:09:30.020 That's all he focused on, which tells me that Donald Trump was not hiding and funneling 0.68

00:09:35.640 money through his campaign to pay off a porn star.

00:09:38.300 He would have written that check from his personal account because they said he was critical.

00:09:42.800 I was talking to them about this case, and they said to me, there would be nowhere to find

00:09:47.900 the money because he believed in zero-based budgets.

00:09:50.700 Every dime appropriated by the campaign or the campaign had to be budgeted in advance by those

00:09:59.360 campaign officials working to get him elected.

00:10:02.680 In other words, the campaign had X millions.

00:10:05.400 He would go to each of them and say, what do you need?

00:10:06.940 They'd all have a meeting.

00:10:07.760 And every penny would already have been pre-accounted for.

00:10:11.860 There wouldn't have been an extra $130,000 that could have been hidden for Stormy Daniels.

00:10:17.380 These are four people.

00:10:18.740 Two of them are kind of bitter because they didn't get jobs in the administration.

00:10:22.560 Believe me, they're not.

00:10:23.540 If they thought there was a problem, they'd be the first one saying it.

00:10:26.380 But to a person, they all said, look, you know, we've got our issues.

00:10:29.760 Some of us are very happy.

00:10:30.800 Others are not.

00:10:31.840 Two of them said, we've got our issues with this president.

00:10:33.980 But one thing we can tell you, the man is fanatical at balancing books.

00:10:39.660 He never, and being above board with his books, he never would have allowed a payment from

00:10:44.700 the campaign to pay for this.

00:10:46.900 He understood the legal implication.

00:10:48.780 More importantly, he wanted to win.

00:10:50.140 He wanted every penny of that campaign money to go toward the campaign.

00:10:52.820 That's not me being a cheerleader for Donald Trump.

00:10:57.040 That's me talking to four people who were tasked with managing millions of dollars each

00:11:02.200 on the campaign, telling me their experiences with how Donald Trump budgets.

00:11:08.420 And so take that, you know, take that in any way you want.

00:11:11.200 Obviously, I'm not naming them, but they, so you can believe it.

00:11:15.900 You can disbelieve it.

00:11:16.700 I happen to believe it because I watched them operate during the campaign and I watched

00:11:21.100 them be on very, very trim margins.

00:11:23.340 So I don't believe that Donald Trump would have done that. 0.97

00:11:25.560 I also don't believe that Donald Trump would have been silly enough to hide money through 0.87

00:11:30.180 the campaign, a paltry $130,000. 0.92

00:11:33.620 His, his plane, his 757 before he was a candidate, burned more fuel than that on a trip across the

00:11:40.080 country.

00:11:40.780 A round trip on that plane is burning about that much in gas.

00:11:44.240 And so this assertion is ludicrous, but it's done to cover for Hillary Clinton.

00:11:50.060 That's all it's about because Hillary did do this. 0.99

00:11:54.180 Now, Trump did take some pot shots.

00:11:56.740 Okay.

00:11:57.260 I'm sorry.

00:11:58.220 Giuliani took some pot shots with regards to certain people around Trump.

00:12:02.220 And he said, and I don't know if I would have said this.

00:12:05.260 He said, Hannity asked what might happen if Jared Kushner from Son-in-Law becomes a criminal

00:12:12.980 target.

00:12:13.380 So Giuliani praised Kushner as, quote, a fine man.

00:12:17.640 You know, he said, wait, he said, this is an interesting comment.

00:12:20.420 He said, quote, a fine man.

00:12:21.960 You know that.

00:12:22.500 But men are disposable.

00:12:23.940 But a fine woman like Ivanka? 0.96

00:12:25.580 Come on.

00:12:27.220 A little bit weird.

00:12:28.540 A little bit weird.

00:12:31.080 So Giuliani said that he would, quote, get on his charger, get his charger and go ride into

00:12:39.660 their offices with a lance, meaning Mueller's, if they go after Ivanka Trump.

00:12:43.260 Now, if they do go after Ivanka, which I doubt they will, the whole country will turn on them.

00:12:48.120 They're going after his daughter, end quote.

00:12:50.140 I believe that.

00:12:50.700 I believe if Robert Mueller and team tried to go after Ivanka Trump, then the entire country

00:12:56.900 would turn on them.

00:12:57.880 And again, Giuliani's quote.

00:12:59.540 So we talked about how Michael Cohen being reimbursed by Rudy Giuliani from personal and

00:13:05.920 corporate funds is not a crime.

00:13:06.760 Here's Giuliani's quote again.

00:13:08.320 He said, quote, if it turns out that regarding to the payment, not if it turns out, he admitted

00:13:13.480 that Trump reimbursed the money.

00:13:15.220 And he said about that reimbursement, quote, it's going to turn out to be perfectly legal.

00:13:20.080 The money was not campaign money.

00:13:22.300 He said to Hannity, sorry, I'm giving you a fact now that you don't know.

00:13:26.020 It's not campaign money.

00:13:28.200 No campaign finance violation is 100% right.

00:13:32.480 So Hannity said they funneled it through the law firm.

00:13:35.300 And Giuliani said, yeah, funneled through the law firm.

00:13:39.740 And then the president repaid it.

00:13:42.880 Now, that's where I have a problem.

00:13:46.080 Giuliani never should have used the word funneled.

00:13:48.140 What he should have said was, no, not funneled.

00:13:50.760 Advanced by Cohen or his private client, Donald Trump, or his private client, the Trump organization,

00:13:59.240 then reimbursed by one of those private entities, not the campaign, no finance violation.

00:14:05.300 Giuliani misspoke.

00:14:06.600 Hannity then said, oh, I didn't know he did.

00:14:10.420 Giuliani then backpedaled it a little bit.

00:14:12.440 And what he said was, let me pull up the quote for you.

00:14:15.220 Of course, when I do that, my screen freezes, as it always does.

00:14:19.980 But Giuliani then said that he reimbursed Cohen in a way that was through legal fees, which is also not illegal by any means.

00:14:32.260 Not illegal by any means.

00:14:33.540 You can reimburse someone with legal fees.

00:14:35.000 But prior to that, Giuliani said that, quote, Cohen was his lawyer and had the discretion to settle, as I have had, as I have had for clients ultimately paying for it.

00:14:45.780 Remember, October 2016, hardly we'll recall any of that in detail.

00:14:50.700 I don't remember it clearly either.

00:14:52.820 He also said that Trump was probably not aware of the payment at the time it was made.

00:14:58.980 And what the Trump campaign is saying is that the agreement with Stormy Daniels was made to prevent false claims.

00:15:09.480 And he's right.

00:15:12.740 I mean, why wouldn't you stop false claims?

00:15:15.420 Now, what Giuliani said when he walked it back, let me find that quote for you.

00:15:19.660 He basically said that Trump paid Cohen, quote, over several months by putting him on retainer of $35,000 while he was doing no work for the president.

00:15:30.940 This is the quote I was looking for before my screen froze.

00:15:32.980 He said, quote, that's how he's repaying it, with a little profit and a little margin for paying taxes.

00:15:39.480 And he said that Trump didn't know the specifics of the payment, as far as I know, but he did know about the general arrangement that Michael would take care of things like this.

00:15:48.480 Like, I take care of things like this for my clients.

00:15:51.900 I don't burden them with every single detail that comes along.

00:15:55.660 And that's the nature of having very wealthy, powerful, well-known clients.

00:15:59.540 They give you a discretionary budget.

00:16:01.220 They say if little gnats come flying around with bogus claims, either fight them or settle them.

00:16:07.120 You figure out which is cheaper and which is less damaging to me.

00:16:09.900 Send me the bill.

00:16:10.880 I'll reimburse you.

00:16:11.740 It's the nature of the beast.

00:16:14.480 It's the nature of the beast.

00:16:15.720 Now, the Trump campaign is obviously responding to Giuliani's false claim.

00:16:22.900 President Trump put out a series of tweets.

00:16:25.140 He tweeted this morning, very early this morning, quote, Mr. Cohen, an attorney, received a monthly retainer not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign,

00:16:35.160 from which he entered into, through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties known as a non-disclosure agreement or NDA.

00:16:43.020 These agreements are very common among celebrities and people of wealth.

00:16:45.920 In this case, it is in full force and effect and will be used in arbitrations for damages against Ms. Clifford, Army Daniels.

00:16:52.900 The agreement was used to stop the false and extortionist accusations made by her about an affair, despite already having signed a detailed letter admitting that there was no affair.

00:17:03.220 Prior to its violation by Mrs. Clifford and her attorney, this was a private agreement.

00:17:08.460 Money from the campaign or campaign contributions played no role in this transaction.

00:17:14.260 Those are tweets from President Donald Trump that sound very much like they were written by his lawyer and him.

00:17:19.700 And I think that is a very smart move.

00:17:22.260 Now, Giuliani also really beat the hell out of James Comey.

00:17:27.320 He said he had the indignity.

00:17:29.720 He said he knew Comey well.

00:17:30.740 And in light of everything, he had the indignity of having given Comey his first major job at the Department of Justice.

00:17:37.180 Rudy Giuliani, you remember, was a U.S. attorney in New York.

00:17:39.320 And he called James Comey a pervert.

00:17:42.120 Now, one thing is for sure.

00:17:43.900 This has shaken a lot of trees.

00:17:45.300 And after Trump's tweets, I like what I'm seeing because this now debunks the entire narrative of a cover-up and of campaign funds being used.

00:17:55.860 All Donald Trump has to do now is have his attorneys, show a bank statement, providing payments to Michael Cohen, subsequent to Michael Cohen's payment to Stormy Daniels, and those payments coming from either his personal account or a Trump organization private account.

00:18:11.780 And it puts that entire line of questioning to bed.

00:18:14.620 It also paints Robert Mueller and his team in a terrible, terrible light for kicking in Michael Cohen's doors of his offices, homes, and hotel rooms, raiding his files, and taking privileged material.

00:18:29.500 This is really, really starting to amp up, and I'm really happy that we're seeing the president fight back.

00:18:44.620 So much going on with the Robert Mueller investigation, this revelation that new Hillary Clinton emails have been found, and Rudy Giuliani's earth-shattering interview on Sean Hannity's show last night.

00:18:57.320 Here to discuss it all with me is the guy who brought us the story.

00:19:01.920 He broke the story on new Hillary emails, or old Hillary emails, recently discovered being found, Patrick Howley, editor-in-chief of Big League Politics.

00:19:10.740 Patrick, thanks for being here today.

00:19:12.440 So much for you and I to discuss.

00:19:14.200 Really glad you were able to come on the show.

00:19:16.020 Let's first go to the story that you broke here a week or so ago.

00:19:21.480 New emails found that belonged to Hillary Clinton, presumably the missing emails.

00:19:26.320 We're going to see those.

00:19:27.640 I believe the judge ordered a disclosure on September 28th.

00:19:31.160 Two other disclosures were already ordered by the judge.

00:19:34.120 January 30th.

00:19:35.280 I'm sorry, January, I believe it was 18th.

00:19:37.360 And March 30th, what did we learn, since you've last been on the show, about those January and March releases of Hillary's previously undisclosed emails?

00:19:47.600 So Hillary Clinton was discussing classified information on her private, non-secure server.

00:19:53.500 She did this many, many times.

00:19:54.940 She discussed highly sensitive topics.

00:19:57.120 This is new information that we gleaned from these January and March 30th releases that further reinforced that idea, right?

00:20:05.360 This is the old info.

00:20:06.200 Oh, yes, that's right.

00:20:07.940 I mean, she did this many, many, many times.

00:20:09.900 And it's clear that many different foreign hostile actors gained access to her email inbox.

00:20:17.200 We know that this happened when she visited China.

00:20:20.560 When she was in East Asia, there was a breach then.

00:20:23.500 And people got into her private email server because there was no firewall protection on it.

00:20:28.980 And it had open doors everywhere.

00:20:30.560 So, you know, Hillary Clinton is definitely guilty of espionage, also perjury and obstruction of justice and many other crimes. 1.00

00:20:38.000 And it's time for Jeff Sessions, who we're going to talk more about, to, you know, to lock her up. 0.90

00:20:43.420 Yeah.

00:20:43.540 Okay, so let's go right there.

00:20:45.880 Perfect segue.

00:20:46.660 I'm glad you brought up Jeff Sessions.

00:20:48.220 There are now many people I trust, some people you and I both know through the political and the media world,

00:20:54.220 that were previously calling for Sessions to be fired, are now saying, hey, wait a second.

00:21:01.400 Maybe there is something happening.

00:21:03.680 Maybe Sessions is acting on things.

00:21:05.840 Because the OIG doesn't seem to have been reined in.

00:21:09.100 I'm, I respect them.

00:21:11.280 I know they're in the know.

00:21:12.640 But I am not convinced, because at the end of the day, Patrick, we all fall back on our own experiences.

00:21:18.220 I look back at my experience in law enforcement.

00:21:20.400 I have never seen anything handled this tepidly.

00:21:23.360 What are you hearing?

00:21:24.320 What do you think?

00:21:25.780 Well, first of all, Sessions, if he is playing 4D chess, he did go to bat for Rod Rosenstein.

00:21:32.060 He wanted Rod Rosenstein to be his number two at the Department of Justice.

00:21:35.780 Rod Rosenstein is terrible.

00:21:37.780 Absolutely terrible.

00:21:39.180 Completely on the other side.

00:21:40.600 One of the anti-Trump conspirators.

00:21:42.640 And he is now the one who is refusing to hand over these documents.

00:21:46.780 After all this time, Rod Rosenstein is in possession of documents about the DOJ investigations going on.

00:21:52.880 He won't hand them over.

00:21:53.960 He wants to redact everything.

00:21:55.620 What does this guy have to hide?

00:21:57.300 And why do we have to keep putting up with Rod Rosenstein?

00:22:00.100 Well, part of the reason for that is because Jeff Sessions keeps him there.

00:22:03.580 So the idea that Jeff Sessions is playing 4D chess,

00:22:06.680 we had a great piece on that theory on our site by Larry Speichardt.

00:22:10.680 I've always, Patrick, I've always.

00:22:12.180 I'm not convinced.

00:22:12.960 I've always hated, not to cut you off, so I want you to keep going.

00:22:15.140 I've always hated that 4D chess conspiracy theory.

00:22:17.880 I personally think Jeff Sessions got there.

00:22:20.940 He was snowed by Rosenstein.

00:22:22.900 Rosenstein played Sessions, allowed Sessions to believe that he was an honest, ethical actor.

00:22:28.080 Sessions followed the chain of command, brought Rosenstein in as a number two.

00:22:32.540 Rosenstein turned out to be a very bad actor.

00:22:35.020 Sessions is paralyzed by and unwilling to fight the swamp.

00:22:39.140 That's how I see this.

00:22:41.140 Yes, and Sessions' lawyer, Chuck Cooper, in the Russia case, is also very tight with Rosenstein.

00:22:46.500 You know, this is a Washington lawyer kind of fraternity.

00:22:49.740 Chuck Cooper goes back in Republican politics to Iran-Contra.

00:22:52.780 He was one of the people who was sitting there at, I believe it was Capitol Grill,

00:22:57.200 or Old Ebbets Grill, actually.

00:22:58.440 And he saw, you know, secret documents in the Iran-Contra case.

00:23:03.520 So, I mean, these people have been in the swamp for a very long time.

00:23:06.700 It's funny to me, during the campaign, Ted Cruz said privately, and I heard him,

00:23:11.860 you know, well, Jeff's been in Washington too long, referring to Jeff Sessions.

00:23:15.780 And we all thought, what is this guy talking about?

00:23:18.500 He's desperate.

00:23:19.180 Jeff Sessions, of all people?

00:23:20.700 Right.

00:23:20.920 Well, maybe Ted Cruz was right, it turns out.

00:23:23.220 I think Ted Cruz was right, and I think that's exactly what it was.

00:23:25.900 You know, I was at Horowitz Restoration Weekend down here in South Florida, back in November,

00:23:31.300 I guess it was, and J. Christian Adams, the DOJ whistleblower, gave a speech in which he

00:23:37.480 basically defended Sessions, but kind of admitted Sessions isn't going to do anything.

00:23:41.760 So, we were walking out of the room together, and I pulled him aside, and I said, Christian,

00:23:47.440 you know, what is, I said, I want to talk to you on the record.

00:23:49.700 I want to use this on my show.

00:23:50.740 He said, yeah, fine, because everything I do is on the record.

00:23:52.800 I said, did you just really say that Jeff Sessions knows there's a problem and won't

00:23:57.040 act on it?

00:23:57.980 And he said, yeah.

00:23:58.760 He said, look, Jeff's an honorable guy, but this problem is so entrenched, it's so vast,

00:24:05.640 so wide, he's just not going to fight it.

00:24:08.300 He can't fight it.

00:24:09.280 Now, I don't know if he meant that he doesn't have the will to fight it, the ability to fight

00:24:12.920 it, compromise, but he was pretty clear that Sessions isn't going to do anything.

00:24:18.240 He's going to do what he can do.

00:24:20.800 That means immigration enforcement.

00:24:23.120 That means, you know, MS-13.

00:24:25.200 He's fascinated with legal marijuana and civil asset seizure.

00:24:29.240 But man, when it comes to fighting the bad actors on Team Obama and Team Hillary, he doesn't

00:24:33.820 seem interested or willing at all.

00:24:36.620 Well, I'll tell you who is interested and willing is Rudy Giuliani.

00:24:40.180 And we should, that interview last night should be the final nail in the coffin for Jeff Sessions

00:24:44.800 and Ron Rosenstein.

00:24:45.740 It should be, it should be.

00:24:47.240 Yeah, I did a segment right before you on the nuances of why they are trying to spin

00:24:54.220 this narrative that Trump used campaign funds.

00:24:56.640 Now, you covered the campaign.

00:24:58.860 We know a couple of the same people who ran various aspects of the campaign.

00:25:03.040 One of the things they would complain about to me, the campaign, senior campaign staff,

00:25:07.380 we'd be out for a drink in D.C. or South Florida, New York, was how Trump was fanatical

00:25:12.480 about his zero-based budgets.

00:25:14.560 There wouldn't have been an extra $130,000 to pay off Stormy Daniels out of the campaign. 0.99

00:25:20.480 If Trump reimbursed Cohen, which I believe he did, that came out of personal money.

00:25:24.580 And Patrick, I don't have a problem with a rich guy making a nuisance go away, a false

00:25:29.360 allegation nuisance go away, to the tune of a paltry $130,000 in context.

00:25:34.260 Well, let's put it in perspective.

00:25:37.200 Donald Trump made a nuisance go away by paying a porn star $130,000.

00:25:42.100 Hillary Clinton made a nuisance go away by murdering Seth Rich. 0.99

00:25:47.440 Look, Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:25:49.380 Okay, so that's not proven, right?

00:25:51.420 I tend to think there's a lot of credence to the theory that Seth Rich was murdered for

00:25:58.220 his political work, by whom I don't know.

00:25:59.880 But I do believe, and I'll tell you why, I've got friends in DCPD that I know from my

00:26:04.880 law enforcement days, they told me they worked that area.

00:26:07.920 They have never once seen a body on the ground in that area that had its wallet and money in

00:26:12.400 the pockets if it was a robbery.

00:26:14.400 And so they said, hey, we don't know what happened.

00:26:16.460 And two of these guys were robbery units for 10 years.

00:26:19.620 And they said, we've never seen a case handled this way.

00:26:21.460 We've never seen the heavy-handedness from the federal government on a case.

00:26:24.700 We've never seen our unit told, don't go out and shake the trees and interview CIs. 0.93

00:26:29.440 I mean, they were told to stand down.

00:26:31.600 Everything about that case in terms of law enforcement is dirty.

00:26:34.980 But let's look at something we know Hillary did.

00:26:37.240 Hillary did funnel money through her law firm, Perkins Coy, from her campaign to pay Fusion 0.93

00:26:41.760 GPS to create the steel dossier.

00:26:43.900 We know she committed campaign finance fraud.

00:26:46.860 I think that's why they're spinning it that way for Trump.

00:26:50.000 Yeah, the Hillary Clinton money laundering scandal is massive, by the way.

00:26:53.600 There are so many other scandals.

00:26:55.080 There are so many other crimes and horrible things that she's done. 0.77

00:26:57.580 That this seems like small potatoes in comparison.

00:27:00.840 But the fact that she was laundering money through state parties is so highly illegal and indicts

00:27:06.140 so many different state democratic parties.

00:27:08.280 We need to investigate that before the midterms.

00:27:10.860 Yeah, it's like 84 million bucks, right?

00:27:12.600 And now the DNC, what was it?

00:27:14.980 The party chairs, I did the story yesterday.

00:27:17.460 Party chairs of a few states in the Midwest are asking, or the National Committee men and

00:27:21.660 committee women, are asking Hillary Clinton for $1.65 million back that the DNC paid her

00:27:27.380 for her list.

00:27:28.060 I mean, even the DNC is distancing themselves from Hillary at this point.

00:27:32.440 Now, Mueller is threatening a grand jury subpoena if Trump doesn't sit down with him.

00:27:37.920 I don't think Trump should ever sit down with Robert Mueller.

00:27:41.600 Victoria Tenzing, Joe DiGenova's wife, two of the most gifted federal and national security

00:27:47.840 defense attorneys out there, both say, absolutely not.

00:27:52.520 Henzing went a step further than DiGenova and said, over my dead body.

00:27:56.300 To paraphrase her, she said, she tells her clients, if you try to talk to federal investigators,

00:28:00.240 I'll stand in the doorway. 1.00

00:28:01.160 You've got to kill me and step over my dead body to do it. 0.99

00:28:03.680 And typically they come back and thank her later on. 0.97

00:28:06.420 I don't think Trump should go anywhere near Mueller.

00:28:08.680 He should submit written questions, obviously written by his lawyer, signed by him, and leave

00:28:13.620 it at that.

00:28:14.120 And then let Mueller try to subpoena a sitting president after the president complies in that

00:28:18.680 way.

00:28:20.020 You know, Mueller would do it. 0.98

00:28:21.980 Mueller is a rabid dog. 0.97

00:28:23.860 Mueller really, really is out for blood. 0.90

00:28:26.280 So the idea that Trump should willingly sit down with him is such a horrible idea.

00:28:32.160 I've talked about this with my friend Roger Stone.

00:28:34.300 He agrees it's the worst idea ever.

00:28:36.800 I urge the president, please, please do not do this because the president likes to talk,

00:28:42.060 you know, and not that he's done anything wrong, but Mueller is going to be sitting there with

00:28:46.720 a pencil, making sure that he crosses every T to make sure to try to get him on some kind

00:28:51.820 of perjury or obstruction of justice charge.

00:28:54.240 So if he actually does subpoena Trump, well, Trump can just take the fifth.

00:28:59.200 Who cares at this point?

00:29:00.840 We all know that this is a farce.

00:29:02.700 We all support the guy.

00:29:03.780 So, you know, this thing needs to end.

00:29:07.680 And Rudy Giuliani was spot on last night talking about how this has gone on way too long and

00:29:13.640 somebody needs to do something.

00:29:15.600 And it broke my heart when Giuliani was talking about how his biggest regret in life was that

00:29:20.340 he didn't take the attorney general job.

00:29:22.020 Yeah, he wanted to be secretary of state.

00:29:24.660 I want to go to Rudy in a second.

00:29:26.060 Something you said was very interesting.

00:29:27.680 I talked to Wayne Allen Root yesterday.

00:29:30.080 And, you know, Wayne is an old friend of Donald Trump's and he was very critical of Obama.

00:29:34.360 And he's a New York guy.

00:29:35.640 And I've had Wayne on the show, on my old radio show many, many times.

00:29:38.840 I have to get him.

00:29:39.680 I was talking about bringing him on this show and he's going to be coming on soon.

00:29:42.640 He's a really interesting guy.

00:29:44.380 And I said, what would you do?

00:29:45.740 I said, if you were sitting with Trump and he said, you know, we're old friends,

00:29:49.700 that I would tell Donald, don't go anywhere near Mueller for the simple reason that

00:29:53.740 you and I are both New York guys.

00:29:55.560 And he said to me, you know, you are too.

00:29:56.700 He would say to Trump, he said, but we talk too much.

00:30:00.120 We talk too much.

00:30:00.980 We're good on air hosts.

00:30:02.580 We're good celebrities.

00:30:03.760 We're good at seminars.

00:30:04.860 He said, we're the worst guys in the world that's sitting in front of federal investigators

00:30:08.260 because we try to, you know, have the puffiest chest in the room.

00:30:13.100 We would talk too much and we'd get ourselves into a trap.

00:30:15.440 And I think Wayne was dead on the mark with that.

00:30:18.600 And it's exactly what you're saying.

00:30:19.820 Trump would go in there.

00:30:21.080 He would try to one up Mueller.

00:30:22.520 Mueller and in the process, Mueller would say, whoa, wait a second.

00:30:26.160 Comey said A.

00:30:27.260 You said B.

00:30:28.580 I believe Comey, not you.

00:30:30.040 Ergo, you lied.

00:30:30.920 I'm charging you with a process crime.

00:30:33.500 Yep.

00:30:34.320 Yep.

00:30:34.680 That's what Mueller's looking to do.

00:30:37.160 No question about it.

00:30:38.140 All right, so let's go back to Giuliani because that's really what I wanted to chat with you

00:30:41.220 about.

00:30:42.040 So much out of that interview, I had somebody very, very close to the president of the United

00:30:47.520 States tell me, we ran into each other socially and they were integral to the campaign and

00:30:55.600 the early days of the transition.

00:30:57.320 We were talking about all of this about two months ago.

00:30:59.920 They said to me, Jeff Sessions was our biggest mistake.

00:31:03.280 We should have gone with Rudy, but Rudy wanted Secretary of State.

00:31:06.960 And Rudy Giuliani expressed that same frustration last night.

00:31:09.580 That's where you were going before I just went over to talk about Wayne.

00:31:11.980 But give me your take on that.

00:31:14.800 It's very sad because Jeff Sessions has wasted so much of our time and, you know, really put

00:31:21.980 us through so much hardship by recusing himself in this nonsense.

00:31:25.520 And instead of being able to govern, and he's governing well, but instead of being able to

00:31:30.880 govern full time, you know, the number one issue has been, is he going to be able to defeat

00:31:35.760 the lying political establishment that is making up a case out of thin air?

00:31:41.140 I mean, this, Rush Limbaugh says this, this is crushing the spirit of our country.

00:31:45.240 And maybe that's the point is to crush the spirit of our country, to send the message that

00:31:49.160 no matter how patriotic you are, no matter what a good citizen you are, it doesn't matter

00:31:54.060 because the people in charge can lie.

00:31:55.840 The people in charge can manipulate the facts and they can always get you because they're

00:31:59.960 in charge.

00:32:00.780 And I think that's the message that they're trying to send to each and every one of us.

00:32:03.940 I think, I think you're right.

00:32:05.000 And I think I'll further that.

00:32:06.340 I think this is deep state saying to America, how dare you think you get a right to choose

00:32:11.620 your president?

00:32:12.640 How dare you believe that you can unseat our selected primary choices?

00:32:18.400 We give you two choices that we approve of, that the deep state, the entrenched bureaucracy,

00:32:24.060 approves of.

00:32:24.980 How dare you go outside of those two choices and rock the system?

00:32:28.900 I truly believe that's Mueller's agenda.

00:32:31.480 Look, Michael Caputo, who had been put through hell for no reason whatsoever, a former advisor

00:32:36.840 to Trump, came on the campaign after the Republican primary in New York, left when Manafort came

00:32:43.560 on as chairman.

00:32:45.020 Unfortunately, Manafort was a disaster.

00:32:47.220 And many good people left when Manafort was there because he wanted Trump to be more

00:32:50.680 establishment, quite frankly.

00:32:52.520 But Caputo lashed out the Senate Intelligence Committee, and now he's talking to the media.

00:32:58.640 And he's saying that he went into this thing believing that Mueller was impartial and fair.

00:33:03.800 That he no longer believes that.

00:33:05.300 He believes that they want a scalp, they're going to get a scalp.

00:33:08.740 But that's what's so problematic here, Patrick.

00:33:10.520 The criminal justice system, the criminal justice system is supposed to operate in this way.

00:33:16.200 A crime occurs, and you try to find the person who committed it.

00:33:19.660 It's not, we've got a person.

00:33:22.160 Let's investigate that person until we find a crime.

00:33:25.240 And if we can't find a crime, let's put them into as many traps as possible to get a bogus

00:33:31.360 process crime like we did on General Flynn.

00:33:33.080 That's what's fundamentally wrong here.

00:33:36.300 But if you fire Mueller now, they're going to move for impeachment.

00:33:39.220 The neocons, the rhinos, and the Dems are going to move to impeach.

00:33:43.300 Yep.

00:33:44.180 Yep, absolutely.

00:33:45.440 So, you know, they think they've got us in a trap whereby President Trump can't do anything

00:33:50.300 to defend himself or they'll get him on a process crime or this obstruction of justice idea.

00:33:55.280 If he tries to defend himself, they'll try to make a case for obstruction of justice no

00:33:59.880 matter what he does.

00:34:00.740 They are using the legal system in a very dangerous, dishonest way that is hurting our

00:34:08.100 republic, quite frankly.

00:34:10.460 And what we need to do is we need to go on offense, like Rudy said, and we need to get

00:34:16.360 rid of Rod Rosenstein.

00:34:17.480 It came out last night, by the way, that Rod Rosenstein was with Mueller when Mueller interviewed

00:34:23.220 to be Donald Trump's FBI director.

00:34:25.440 Yes, yes.

00:34:26.020 First of all, how is it not a conflict of interest that Trump passes Mueller over for

00:34:30.620 a job and then Mueller comes back as the special counsel?

00:34:34.380 How is it not a conflict of interest?

00:34:37.780 Exactly.

00:34:38.380 Not to cut you off.

00:34:39.280 How is it not a conflict of interest that Mueller and Comey worked together?

00:34:42.240 How is it not a conflict of interest that Rosenstein and Mueller worked together, were in that

00:34:45.920 interview together, and then Rosenstein picks Mueller, the guy that wasn't hired to be the

00:34:50.680 special counsel, inviting the guy who didn't, investigating the guy who didn't hire him and

00:34:55.660 who fired his buddy.

00:34:57.080 Nothing about this, nothing about this is proper.

00:35:01.560 Not to mention the fact that Paul Manafort was using Wilmer Hale law firm to represent

00:35:07.240 him at the time that Mueller started investigating Manafort.

00:35:10.880 And Mueller was a partner at Wilmer Hale.

00:35:13.800 So anything he got from that period of the investigation can immediately be discounted for

00:35:19.740 attorney-client privilege and various other things as well.

00:35:22.620 It's the most bizarre, improper investigation I've ever seen in my life, unless, unless Trump

00:35:31.680 really does have some intricate endgame and all the pieces are falling into place.

00:35:35.920 Because otherwise, otherwise, this was gross incompetence up to this point on the part of

00:35:42.300 Trump's attorney.

00:35:42.980 Look, I am, I couldn't be happier that John Dowd and Ty Cobb are gone.

00:35:47.320 I think John Dowd and Ty Cobb were gutless.

00:35:49.880 I think they were terrified of Mueller.

00:35:51.620 They deferred to everything Mueller did.

00:35:53.740 They deferred to everything Mueller said.

00:35:55.780 Giuliani comes out of the gate punching.

00:35:57.860 And then Ty Cobb, the day after he resigns, goes and does an interview on ABC News praising

00:36:02.700 Mueller.

00:36:03.540 I mean, what did he do there for nearly a year?

00:36:06.520 You know, Ty Cobb, I like the mustache.

00:36:08.900 I like the baseball name.

00:36:10.640 I hope his mustache is still in the White House.

00:36:12.280 Only he left.

00:36:14.040 I think it's hanging out in Bolton's office.

00:36:16.480 It feels comfortable over there.

00:36:18.320 His mustache is the new head lawyer on the team.

00:36:21.500 Listen, seriously, what the hell was Cobb doing?

00:36:24.880 You did nothing.

00:36:25.860 All you did was praise Mueller, praise Mueller, praise Mueller.

00:36:28.600 And then after you leave, you do an ABC interview praising Mueller again?

00:36:31.820 I mean, what is the endgame there?

00:36:34.140 Ty Cobb's a Jeb Bush guy.

00:36:35.340 You know, a lot of these people infiltrate and they really do have dual allegiances.

00:36:39.460 I think Ty Cobb is one of them.

00:36:42.360 Yeah, I do.

00:36:43.360 I think Ty Cobb.

00:36:44.160 You know what I found with lawyers?

00:36:45.780 Defense lawyers, even civil defense lawyers, know they have to exist with these other councils.

00:36:52.260 They know criminal defense lawyers, know they have to exist with these prosecutors.

00:36:55.820 So they only go so far, but for a few, the Victoria Tenzing's, the Joe DiGenova's.

00:37:02.480 Many of them, like Cobb and Dowd, will only go so far.

00:37:05.080 They'll only rock the boat so much because they know that once they're done with that client, they've got to exist with another client.

00:37:11.200 A guy like Mueller goes back into the private sector.

00:37:13.200 He's a few million-dollar-a-year guy.

00:37:15.080 He can easily bring them in as a partner, make them very wealthy, as long as they didn't rock the boat too much.

00:37:20.340 I don't think Trump got adequate representation from Dowd and Cobb.

00:37:24.460 We're running out of time.

00:37:25.140 Patrick, last word to you.

00:37:26.040 John, I think that it is a big regret that Rudy Giuliani did not become the attorney general.

00:37:32.280 And I think what this underscores more than anything is the need for President Donald Trump to go on offense.

00:37:38.400 We have been on defense for no reason. 0.98

00:37:41.120 These people are liars.

00:37:42.360 These people are manipulating the facts. 0.99

00:37:43.940 They are making this up out of whole cloth.

00:37:45.860 This is like 1984.

00:37:47.600 And we are tired of having to defend ourselves from fiction.

00:37:50.980 It is time to point out the truth to the American people and to go on offense.

00:37:55.020 Rudy Giuliani needs to lead the way.

00:37:57.640 And President Donald Trump needs to follow Rudy's advice because Rudy has his back.

00:38:02.400 I couldn't agree more.

00:38:03.760 Patrick Howley, Editor-in-Chief, Big League Politics.

00:38:06.600 Always a pleasure to have you on.

00:38:08.280 You're going to keep us updated on what's going on with these Hillary emails, right?

00:38:11.100 As always.

00:38:11.940 When did you find something new, send me a text.

00:38:13.520 I'll bring you right back on.

00:38:14.780 Awesome.

00:38:15.200 Thanks, John.

00:38:15.700 Thanks, Patrick.

00:38:25.020 It feels like every institution from my childhood is being eradicated by the far left.

00:38:33.620 I'm sure you've seen the story, but we're going to go deep into it.

00:38:35.920 The Boy Scouts of America are dropping.

00:38:39.880 Ready for this?

00:38:41.120 The word boy from their name.

00:38:43.220 Yeah.

00:38:43.460 Well, Boy Scouts Chief Scout Executive, Mike Serba, is saying it's only about the new

00:38:50.300 Scout Me In program.

00:38:52.220 The Boy Scouts, starting in, let's see, when are they going to do this?

00:38:55.900 They're going to be called Scouts BSA in February of 2019.

00:39:02.120 The umbrella organization will retain its name, Boy Scouts of America.

00:39:05.440 The term Cub Scouts for kids 7 to 10 years old is gender neutral and will go unchanged.

00:39:12.480 However, Boy Scouts, which runs for kids 11, 17, then you get Eagle Scouts, will have

00:39:21.080 the name changed to Scouts BSA in February.

00:39:25.080 Cub Scouts will formally start accepting girls this summer.

00:39:29.260 But Sarbaugh, the Chief Scout Executive, said more than 3,000 girls nationwide are already

00:39:35.420 enrolled in BSA's Early Adopter Program and are participating in Cub Scouts ahead of the

00:39:41.020 full launch this year.

00:39:42.320 Why?

00:39:43.160 We have the Girl Scouts.

00:39:44.660 We've got the Brownies.

00:39:45.600 We've got the Girl Scouts.

00:39:46.760 This is an attempt by the far left to destroy traditionalism, to eradicate the concept of

00:39:54.400 masculinity.

00:39:54.940 I brought you a story a few shows ago about the University of Texas considering masculinity

00:39:59.900 a disorder.

00:40:01.260 Well, this really plays into that.

00:40:04.120 Now, the Boy Scouts of America has had a membership drain.

00:40:06.920 They claim 2.3 million members down from 2.6 million five years ago.

00:40:11.260 That's basically over a 10% loss of members, almost a 15% membership loss over five years.

00:40:18.000 Pretty considerable to drop 3% of your members yearly.

00:40:21.640 And that considers, that includes rather the venturing and sea scouting programs.

00:40:26.300 The latter, sea scouting, I'd heard about it, don't know much about it, allows membership

00:40:30.880 of the 21 years of age.

00:40:32.440 In its peak years, the Boy Scouts had 4 million members.

00:40:36.120 Now, the Boy Scouts of America is saying that this is all about giving families the ease

00:40:44.160 of having male and female children enrolled in one program so parents don't have to run

00:40:48.120 all over the place.

00:40:48.720 Well, the Girl Scouts aren't happy about this because this is poaching their membership.

00:40:52.840 And rightfully so.

00:40:54.920 Why would they be happy about this?

00:40:56.520 But this is not about that at all.

00:40:58.260 This is about normalizing transgender children, normalizing these far-left weirdo parents who,

00:41:05.960 if their son at four years old picks up a pink teddy bear because it's a cute little teddy bear,

00:41:11.520 they say, oh, little Atticus is obviously gender neutral.

00:41:17.500 Let's let him wear a dress while he plays baseball. 0.99

00:41:20.240 It is akin to child abuse, and that's the traditional conservative in me. 0.99

00:41:25.000 It's ridiculous. 0.98

00:41:26.520 Let them make the decision as an adult. 0.99

00:41:28.200 But these people who force their children in transgenderism, I find that reprehensible.

00:41:33.720 I also find it very unsettling that now they want to force this on other people's kids. 0.97

00:41:39.740 The other thing that bothers me is that the left, the hypocritical left, hates the 1%, right?

00:41:45.800 The left despises the 1%, unless it's the 1% of people in the country who consider themselves 0.97

00:41:53.080 transgender, gender androgynous, what have you.

00:41:56.160 Then that 1%, that 1% should set policy for all others. 0.57

00:42:01.700 If it's the wealthy 1%, we should crush them, and we should enact policies for the 99%. 0.73

00:42:07.620 But if it's the 1% of transgenders or gender neutral people or gender ambiguous people,

00:42:12.760 well, then all policy for the other 99% should be set based on their agenda, their emotional

00:42:18.900 wants and needs.

00:42:19.840 I am so sick of this nonsense. 0.98

00:42:22.900 I'm so sick of it. 0.97

00:42:24.760 Taking the boys out of the Boy Scouts is disgraceful.

00:42:29.620 Now, you know what they're going to do?

00:42:30.420 This is just the first step in that slow creep left, right?

00:42:36.120 It's going to be this.

00:42:37.380 Then the multicultural, not multicultural, but the alternative lifestyle curriculum will creep

00:42:49.140 into the Boy Scouts.

00:42:50.620 The curriculum about toxic masculinity.

00:42:53.920 Let's not go camping and fishing as Boy Scouts. 0.96

00:42:56.780 Let's also go to ballet, and let's also go to a lecture on transgenderism given by a gay 1.00

00:43:04.740 rights activist who at one point said that pedophilia is not a mental disorder and shouldn't

00:43:10.820 even be criminalized.

00:43:12.240 You know, that's what's going to wind up happening here.

00:43:13.800 I know I sound like I'm over the top, but this is the slow creep.

00:43:17.660 This is the slow creep towards normalizing alternative lifestyles of 1% for the other 99%. 0.97

00:43:25.200 This is the slow creep towards eradicating masculinity.

00:43:29.580 The Boy Scouts, by taking a young guy, a boy, camping and fishing, is teaching them two basic

00:43:37.040 elements needed for manhood.

00:43:39.920 The providing of food and shelter.

00:43:43.860 You go to fish, you're providing food, you learn how to stake your tent, it's shelter.

00:43:48.640 You have to complete a series of tasks.

00:43:50.500 I was a Cub Scout.

00:43:51.160 I was a Boy Scout.

00:43:51.780 It teaches you responsibility.

00:43:54.760 It teaches you work ethic.

00:43:56.480 It teaches you competition.

00:43:58.900 Right?

00:44:00.440 It teaches you how to compete against other Boy Scouts, how to win that medal before they

00:44:04.600 do.

00:44:05.280 The left hates all that.

00:44:06.640 They despise that.

00:44:08.240 They want to take that away.

00:44:09.900 They want to eradicate that.

00:44:11.280 And what better way to do it?

00:44:13.360 What better way to do it than to take the boy out of Boy Scouts?

00:44:17.160 Now, there is precedent on a way to do this in a less destructive way.

00:44:22.140 The Boys and Girls Clubs of America used to be just the Boys Clubs of America.

00:44:25.320 They merged Boys and Girls Clubs so that parents who have kids of both genders can drop them 1.00

00:44:32.260 at one facility.

00:44:33.140 But the activities are things that boys would like to do and girls would like to do.

00:44:37.200 And sometimes there's crossover.

00:44:38.740 So the Boys and Girl Scouts could have gotten together and said, hey, let's make it the Boys

00:44:41.640 and Girl Scouts of America and have joint meetings.

00:44:44.200 Would have been okay with that.

00:44:45.240 This is not what their agenda is, though.

00:44:47.500 Their agenda is transgenderism. 0.98

00:44:49.540 Their agenda is to say to boys, it's horrible to be a male. 1.00

00:44:53.260 You should be ashamed of yourself to be a little boy, you budding rapist, you budding 1.00

00:44:56.920 misogynist, you budding xenophobe. 1.00

00:44:59.820 Being a boy is toxic. 1.00

00:45:02.260 Being a girl, well, if you're a girl and you think you're only a girl, that's pretty toxic 0.87

00:45:08.240 too.

00:45:08.860 This is a far left, and I mean radical, far left alternative lifestyle creep.

00:45:14.780 Into a very traditional American institution, the Boy Scouts of America.

00:45:19.700 We shouldn't allow this.

00:45:21.660 We shouldn't allow this. 0.61

00:45:22.740 Look, there was a lot of hysteria a few years back with gay scout leaders. 0.72

00:45:27.700 Now, I don't understand why you would have to force gay scout leaders into the Boy Scouts.

00:45:35.380 I don't get it. 0.90

00:45:37.560 But it's not about being a gay scout leader.

00:45:39.300 If a scout leader comes into the Boy Scouts and they don't have children that are also 0.91

00:45:43.960 in the Boy Scouts in that troop, be that scout leader gay or straight, I would be a little

00:45:47.920 concerned.

00:45:48.880 Maybe it's the cop in me.

00:45:50.140 I would be a little concerned with why some random man wants to take a bunch of young boys

00:45:54.860 hunting, camping, and fishing.

00:45:57.120 God forbid the Boy Scouts are allowed to shoot rifles anymore.

00:45:59.260 The whole lot of them will go to jail, and that we've taken that incredibly fun activity

00:46:04.340 away from little boys for the most part.

00:46:06.920 Some scout troops still do it in the Midwest and all, but scout troops in bigger cities

00:46:10.500 don't.

00:46:11.220 It's terrible.

00:46:12.000 Terrible.

00:46:12.460 I loved going to the rifle ring.

00:46:14.260 Loved it.

00:46:14.760 Still do.

00:46:15.420 It's awesome.

00:46:16.340 But of course, we have to take that away from kids.

00:46:18.560 Whole nother segment. 0.96

00:46:19.220 I would be very suspicious if some random, I don't have children, but if I did, some random

00:46:26.280 grown man without any kids in the troop wanted to take a bunch of young boys on a camping

00:46:33.980 trip away from their parents for the weekend, and if the other scout leader was also a single

00:46:39.040 man, just the whole thing is weird, all right, who had no kids in the troop.

00:46:42.420 I have friends who are scout leaders now, but they have kids.

00:46:45.580 The two guys I know, one has one son in the troop.

00:46:47.980 The other has two sons in the troop.

00:46:49.460 The other dads whose sons are in the troops are the other scout leaders.

00:46:52.600 They're on the trip.

00:46:53.780 That's normal.

00:46:54.620 That's healthy.

00:46:55.220 Some random man, no matter their sexual orientation with no kids there, that is not, that is not

00:47:01.800 healthy.

00:47:02.380 And there's something fundamentally, fundamentally wrong with that.

00:47:05.460 And I would caution, I would caution parents about keeping their kids in the Boy Scouts of

00:47:11.620 America.

00:47:11.960 Quite frankly, I think these parents should pull their kids out of the scouts BSA.

00:47:18.660 As soon as humanly possible.

00:47:32.320 The deep state, those entrenched bureaucrats, hysterical Donald Trump won the election, will

00:47:36.820 stop at nothing, nothing to halt his agenda.

00:47:40.040 They tried to crush him in the primary.

00:47:42.260 They tried to crush him in the general election.

00:47:43.800 They tried to use a special counsel, and they're still trying to use a special counsel to bring

00:47:49.020 down his administration.

00:47:49.900 They're trying to use porn stars with bogus allegations. 0.93

00:47:52.780 They're trying everything.

00:47:54.080 If they can't take Trump out, they can't end his presidency.

00:47:58.000 Well, they're going to do everything they can to stall his agenda.

00:48:01.180 A news story from Fox News holds a lot of water to me.

00:48:03.820 It's entitled, Deep State Has Weaponized Security Clearances Against Trump, Conservative Pentagon

00:48:09.780 Officials Lawyer Says.

00:48:11.700 And this lawyer, National Security Attorney Sean Begley, wrote that his client, Adam Lovinger,

00:48:16.980 is just one example.

00:48:18.260 This is from the Fox News story of the ongoing war against Trump appointees.

00:48:22.100 Lovinger served for more than a decade as a Pentagon strategist before being tapped to become

00:48:26.940 an analyst for the National Security Council.

00:48:28.860 Now, this charge comes less than a month after Senator Rand Paul revealed that two romantically

00:48:34.760 linked FBI officials, Peter Stroke and Lisa Page, they'll have their security clearances.

00:48:40.780 And people are calling this a power grab.

00:48:43.820 According to the attorney, Bigley, the Pentagon cited only, quote, specious and constantly evolving

00:48:50.500 claims of misconduct, end quote, against his client to justify the punishment of suspending

00:48:56.580 his security clearance, causing him to lose the National Security Council post.

00:49:01.660 Now, they've failed to provide, the government has failed to provide any specific evidence

00:49:05.700 for their claims.

00:49:06.880 And Lovinger, this guy who's worked honorably in the Department of Defense, who was supposed

00:49:10.980 to go over to the NSC, remains on administrative leave.

00:49:14.380 His attorney writes, quote, one of Mr. Lovinger's alleged transgressions was that Pentagon officials

00:49:21.780 had improperly marked an academic report he took about an airplane for reading.

00:49:30.820 So what they're saying is that they had marked it classified enough for him not to bring on

00:49:38.020 an aircraft, but that was improper.

00:49:39.840 Glory goes on to say, quote, in Mr. Lovinger's case, those weaponizing the security clearance

00:49:45.020 process include a senior official who remains on the job despite publicly disparaging President

00:49:52.080 Trump as unfit to lead, a Pentagon attorney who instructed colleagues on the importance

00:49:57.020 of concealing retaliatory motives behind their actions, and the Defense Department security

00:50:02.940 adjudications chief who persisted in advancing the false allegations.

00:50:06.900 They and other unelected partisans are quietly usurping presidential prerogatives to a litany

00:50:14.820 of seemingly small but slowly compounding abuses of bureaucratic power.

00:50:21.140 I believe this.

00:50:22.580 I believe this because I'm hearing it from many, many people.

00:50:25.920 I watched two friends of mine, federal agents with stellar careers, who made their political

00:50:31.360 affiliations known.

00:50:33.380 They're big Trump supporters, big conservatives.

00:50:35.260 They're in federal law enforcement agencies and battled one.

00:50:39.260 They made their political affiliations known.

00:50:42.020 And for the first time in their multi-decade careers, days in one case and a week after

00:50:47.780 for the for in another case, they were pulled in to have their security clearances re-evaluated

00:50:52.460 for no specific reason whatsoever.

00:50:55.560 I believe it's retaliation for being a Trump supporter.

00:50:59.380 I truly do. 1.00

00:51:00.300 These people are unhinged. 1.00

00:51:02.940 These people are unhinged. 0.99

00:51:04.100 This case appears to have some legs.

00:51:07.560 As I'm reading information on this case, it appears to have legs.

00:51:11.880 This guy appears to be being punished because he's a Trump supporter, because he was invited

00:51:18.560 onto the NSC.

00:51:19.520 We're seeing Trump's appointees stalled in Congress.

00:51:22.580 We're seeing many, many people have their security clearance investigation stalled, halted,

00:51:27.840 delayed for inexplicable reasons.

00:51:29.820 And it makes sense, right?

00:51:31.660 If you can't take Trump out on bogus allegations of collusion, if you can't take him out on

00:51:37.320 bogus allegations of obstruction of justice, well, what better way to halt his agenda and

00:51:42.160 to stall his nominees and not allow him to have people in place with the proper clearances

00:51:47.820 do assist him going forward.

00:51:49.360 Do a system going forward.

00:51:49.520 過

00:51:57.280 you

00:51:59.020 We'll be right back.

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