Rebel News Podcast - Off The Cuff Declassified - John Cardillo - May 30⧸2018

00:00:00.000 Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, ABC cancels the Roseanne show after Roseanne Barr tweets

00:00:05.220 something highly offensive about Obama advisor Valerie Jarrett. The deep state is amping up

00:00:10.800 its efforts to go after President Trump. I'll tell you all about it. South Florida political

00:00:15.360 reporter and congressional candidate Javier Menares joins me to discuss the latest protest

00:00:20.820 by David Hogg and the far left Parkland kids. I'm going to tell you about a case in which I think

00:00:26.440 President Trump should intervene and commute a federal prison sentence.

00:00:36.480 ABC cancels Roseanne Barr's show, the Roseanne show. Incredibly, incredibly highly watched.

00:00:44.120 Something like 29 million viewers for the premiere because of an offensive tweet Barr leveled at

00:00:51.140 former Obama advisor Valerie Jarrett. Now I found the tweet vile. I found the tweet reprehensible.

00:00:56.440 But did the punishment fit the crime? Now what Barr tweeted on Twitter, the tweet has now been

00:01:05.300 deleted, is she tweeted, quote, Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby equals VJ

00:01:11.280 Valerie Jarrett. Look, a lot of people, now Barr is claiming, I'm going to tell you what she's

00:01:15.620 claiming. She's claiming on Twitter that she did not know that Valerie Jarrett was black. 0.99

00:01:21.140 She thought she was white Iranian. And many people think that. Valerie Jarrett is in fact 0.99

00:01:27.360 black. She's just light skinned. She's from Chicago. Her parents worked in Iran. Her dad was

00:01:33.000 an executive and working with the diplomatic corps for some years over in Iran. There are plenty of

00:01:40.460 ways to attack Valerie Jarrett. There are plenty of ways to attack the left. Race should always be 1.00

00:01:46.380 left out of it. Valerie Jarrett has ties to Louis Farrakhan. She has ties to Linda Sarsour,

00:01:51.100 to the Muslim Brotherhood, to some very, very bad actors. And Roseanne and conservatives in general

00:01:56.940 would be far better served dispensing with the stupidity, the racist undertones, and attacking

00:02:04.440 on the merits. The Democrats give us such solid ammunition and we waste it. We throw it away.

00:02:11.080 But to this story. So Barr is now apologizing. Now, I don't know Roseanne well, but we know each

00:02:17.640 other. We interface on social media. She's a conservative celebrity. I've been on conference

00:02:23.000 calls with her. I've spoken with other groups of conservatives in the media industry on those

00:02:28.620 calls. She's been present. So we're not friends. We know each other. We know of one another. I don't

00:02:35.240 find Roseanne to be a racist. I don't find Roseanne to be a bad person. I was highly offended many years

00:02:41.440 back when she gave that terribly disrespectful rendition of the national anthem. And she's

00:02:47.020 reinvented herself as a conservative in Hollywood. And I'll admit, maybe it's hypocritical. I'm willing

00:02:51.880 to forgive some past transgressions because we need to win the culture war. And when we have

00:02:57.360 megastars like Roseanne with these cult followings through the decades, and they're finally on the right,

00:03:02.720 they've left the left. They're on the right. We need to embrace them. We really, really need to

00:03:08.960 embrace them. We need it. So it's highly disappointing for me that Roseanne did this.

00:03:14.300 But does the punishment fit the crime? But we're going to get into that. We're going to get into

00:03:18.880 that with people like Joy Reid and Keith Olbermann and Jameli Hill from ESPN. Things they've said,

00:03:25.840 things they've done, rappers and their lyrics, how highly racist and misogynistic and sexual and calling

00:03:32.360 for rape and murder and using the N-word indiscriminately. We're going to get into

00:03:37.360 the double standard. But first, let's talk about ABC's response. ABC immediately moved to cancel

00:03:42.540 Roseanne. Now, I don't believe it was over one tweet. I think that ABC Disney has put ideology

00:03:49.620 over profits. I believe that when Roseanne became too conservative, constantly siding with President 0.99

00:03:55.920 Trump on Twitter and Facebook, the subject matter of her show, clearly her character anyway,

00:04:00.420 pro-Trump, pro-conservatives, pro-conservative economic message, the powers that be at ABC,

00:04:07.700 the liberals in Hollywood, were aghast. And they needed to rein that in. And I truly believe,

00:04:12.480 even if it's subconsciously, they needed a reason to get rid of Roseanne despite 29 million

00:04:19.420 premier viewers and consistently high ratings each episode. Now, Roseanne did an immediate

00:04:24.940 mea culpa and she apologized. And she said, she didn't give it much thought. I was reading one

00:04:29.580 of her tweets just a little bit before the show today. She said, I really genuinely thought Valerie

00:04:34.280 Jarrett was white. I believe that. Roseanne wrote, I apologize. I am now leaving Twitter. 0.72

00:04:41.180 But she came back on and I and many others said, do not leave Twitter. You made a mistake.

00:04:44.980 She said in a series of late night tweets, she was blaming Ambien, the prescription sleeping pill

00:04:52.180 Ambien. And she also criticized ABC for what she says is network hypocrisy. And I'm reading

00:04:57.100 from a Fox News article, but these are Roseanne's verbatim tweets. She said, quote, guys, I did something

00:05:02.940 unforgivable. So do not defend me. It was two in the morning and I was Ambien tweeting. It was Memorial

00:05:07.240 Day too. I went too far and do not want to defend it. It was egregious and indefensible. I made a mistake.

00:05:12.160 I wish I hadn't, but don't defend it, please. Thank you. No, I agree with that. I agree with

00:05:18.740 Roseanne tweeting that. I will also tell you this. There was a time when I had trouble sleeping.

00:05:24.500 My doctor prescribed me Ambien and it was one prescription. And I asked my doctor to never

00:05:30.080 give me Ambien again because Ambien, I hallucinated like it was bizarre and unsettling on Ambien.

00:05:38.200 So do I believe that if she took an Ambien, it was possible she did this? I do. And did it

00:05:44.540 inadvertently? I do. But do I also agree that it was indefensible and Roseanne's a grown woman,

00:05:49.120 very wealthy, very intelligent. I agree with that as well, but I don't think should have been fired.

00:05:57.240 Now, the rebooted episode, it says the episode attracted more than 18 million viewers.

00:06:02.600 The Drudge Report actually reported worldwide 29 million. Let's go with the low estimate of 18

00:06:10.060 million. Those are still earth shattering ratings. I mean, it is just earth shattering. She then

00:06:16.460 tweeted, I think Joe Rogan is right about Ambien, Joe Rogan, the comedian, the MMA guy, and especially

00:06:21.700 on Netflix. I think Joe Rogan is right about Ambien, not giving excuses for what I did, parentheses,

00:06:26.660 tweeted. But I've done weird stuff while on Ambien, cracked eggs on the wall at 2 a.m.

00:06:31.060 I will tell you a quick story. I took an Ambien in 2003. I remember this vividly. We're talking 15

00:06:38.520 years ago. Had that much wine before bed. And I woke up and I was at a friend's home up in the

00:06:46.020 mountains. It was a nice home, but they had some deer heads on the wall. And I vividly remember those

00:06:51.380 deer heads talking to me. That is how much Ambien messed me up. I never wanted Ambien again after that.

00:06:57.580 It was it is a very, very strong sleeping pill. And she doubled down, appearing to blame Ambien

00:07:05.460 again. She then said, don't feel sorry for me, guys. This is Roseanne tweeting. I just want to

00:07:09.980 apologize to the hundreds of people and wonderful writers, all liberals and talented actors who lost

00:07:16.320 their jobs on my show due to my stupid tweet. I'll be on Joe Rogan's podcast Friday. Now, Viacom then

00:07:23.920 went a step further and pulled all of the old Roseanne shows. Roseanne also issued a statement

00:07:34.260 and her statement was as follows. I deeply regret my comments from late last night on Twitter. Above

00:07:39.480 all, I want to apologize to Valerie Jarrett, as well as to ABC and the cast and crew of the Roseanne

00:07:44.480 show. I am sorry for making a thoughtless joke that does not reflect my values. I love all people

00:07:50.120 and I'm very sorry. Today, my words caused hundreds of hardworking people to lose their jobs. I also

00:07:55.720 sincerely apologize to the audience that has embraced my work for decades. I apologize from the bottom

00:08:01.160 of my heart and hope you can find it in your hearts to forgive me. Now, what Valerie Jarrett

00:08:08.020 could have done was immediately said to ABC, do not fire her. I laughed it off, too. We're all political

00:08:15.500 figures. We punch each other because the left has been vicious to the right. ABC could have spanked 1.00

00:08:23.580 Roseanne on the wrist, suspended the show for two weeks. Now, obviously, the show was taped. 0.98

00:08:28.620 It's all been filmed, but the optics of it, Roseanne's going to be off the air for a month or two weeks. 0.97

00:08:34.480 Roseanne could have issued a series of apologies during that month or two weeks. She could have gone to

00:08:38.300 diversity training and sensitivity training and held a workshop. The whole thing would have blown over.

00:08:43.420 Hundreds of people would have retained their jobs. I don't believe ABC wanted Roseanne on the air

00:08:49.040 any longer because she was a conservative. Now, the bigger problem is, the bigger problem is

00:08:55.860 the double standard. Let's talk about ABC. Jack Murphy on Twitter, at Real Jack, tweeted,

00:09:04.300 good tweet, Kimmel mocked Melania Trump's accent, Jimmy Kimmel, true. Joy Behar on The View called 0.99

00:09:10.360 Vice President Mike Pence mentally ill for having a strong Christian faith. Bill Maher makes racist

00:09:16.760 comments left, right, and center. Keith Olbermann has used effing this and effing that and called

00:09:25.200 the president and all of his supporters effing Nazis. Nick Short, our good friend Nick Short,

00:09:29.700 a really good political and national security reporter, did an incredible graphic.

00:09:32.840 And it's, I've retweeted it on my Twitter page, at John Cardell, my Twitter timeline,

00:09:36.940 at John Cardell on numerous times, where he took headlines of all of the times Keith Olbermann has

00:09:42.020 gone on unhinged rants and used pejoratives. Kimela Hill over at ESPN went on racist rants. 1.00

00:09:47.120 She called the president of the United States a white supremacist. Joy Reid over at MSNBC has a history

00:09:53.360 of blogging, homophobic, anti-Hispanic, anti-Latino, anti-Semitic content. It's all been

00:10:01.000 uncovered. Joy Reid still has a job. Jimmy Kimmel still has a job. Bill Maher still has a job.

00:10:07.140 Joy Behar still has a job. Keith Olbermann is hired by ESPN, a subsidiary of ABC Disney,

00:10:15.540 the same week Roseanne is fired for one tweet. Kimmel, Bahar, Olbermann, Jamela Hill, ESPN,

00:10:25.060 Joy Reid, MSNBC, all of them, a history, comment upon comment upon comment, tweet upon tweet,

00:10:32.600 blog post upon blog post, Facebook post upon Facebook post, racist, vile, insulting.

00:10:37.700 They all have jobs. They faced no problems. Roseanne, one tweet, one tweet, her show is

00:10:47.400 canceled. Hundreds of people are fired. Again, not excusing the tweet, not excusing it. The tweet

00:10:55.660 was vile, but her apologies are sufficient. Now, Valerie Jarrett said, make Roseanne's racism, 1.00

00:11:02.020 make Roseanne's racism controversy, a teaching moment. And Jarrett coincidentally was slated to 0.99

00:11:09.380 appear on, it was a pre-taped MSNBC town hall. He said, quote, I think we have to turn it into a

00:11:16.360 teaching moment. I'm fine. I'm worried about all the people out there. I don't have a circle of

00:11:19.800 friends and followers who come right to their defense. Ah, Jarrett should have been a little

00:11:27.040 more stand up than that. Now, Disney is suffering. Solo, their film about Han Solo, did very poorly

00:11:33.120 at the box office. And with this cancellation of Roseanne, Disney shares, ABC Disney, obviously the

00:11:39.580 parent company of ABC networks that aired Roseanne, their shares dropped 2.4% on this news. This is

00:11:47.440 indicative of a much larger issue though. And like I said earlier, I believe, I truly believe

00:11:53.900 they're putting their political agenda over their profits. I don't believe they care about

00:12:00.760 profits. They needed to silence Roseanne. Now, we've seen some archived blog posts of Joy Reid

00:12:11.420 over the years. Let me read you a couple of things Joy Reid has written on her blog, The Reid Report.

00:12:18.100 Quote, you believe the Jews were oppressed. Why should the Palestinian Muslims have to pay the price?

00:12:23.900 You oppressed them. This is her siding with former Iranian leader, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a guy that

00:12:30.240 called for a second Holocaust. You oppressed them. So give a part of Europe to the Zionist regime so 0.99

00:12:35.900 they can establish a government. We would support it. That's Joy Reid. We also accused Wolf Blitzer,

00:12:45.460 CNN's Wolf Blitzer, of being too Zionist, of being too friendly to the Jewish people.

00:12:51.860 She also attacked Mexicans. She attacked homosexuals. And then Joy Reid wrote on Monday, 0.58

00:13:00.140 April 4th, 2005, it's good to be a celebrity because you can be really, really disgusting

00:13:08.640 and still have a shot at keeping your job. And that was on Reid blog, the Reid Report blog,

00:13:17.220 her blog. He also defended Mike Tyson after he was accused of rape. So she's, she's, she's been

00:13:25.460 vile, vile. Now, here's another blog post in which she attacks Jews and Latinos. It's just that there 1.00

00:13:33.160 is a tremendous taboo in the United States about saying anything even remotely negative about Israel

00:13:37.140 or about implying dual loyalty when it comes to a Jewish American. It would simply isn't done

00:13:42.260 because it would expose the speaker to charges of anti-Semitism. Latinos have not gotten to the 0.59

00:13:46.900 place yet where they are essentially immunized from overt criticism. But keep in mind that those

00:13:51.580 who criticize the waving, blah, blah, blah. And she goes on and basically saying that Latinos are now

00:13:55.820 becoming such a large part of the population that we'll soon be able to criticize them as well.

00:14:00.780 Joy Reid has a history of things far worse than Roseanne. Joy Reid has consistently been given a pass. 1.00

00:14:10.380 She's been given a pass. She even lied and said it wasn't my blog. And then people pulled the

00:14:15.220 web archives and they proved that it was her blog. And then forensic analysis said, no, nobody went in

00:14:21.760 and changed anything. It was your blog. You wrote it. And then her lame excuse was, oh, maybe I did.

00:14:28.580 I don't remember writing it. Yeah. But you know what? A liberal is an African-American liberal. So she gets a

00:14:34.020 pass. He gets a pass. Roseanne, though, is excoriated, shamed off air and hundreds, hundreds of people 1.00

00:14:42.780 worked on our show are fired. There is a glaring, a glaring double standard. Now, like I said earlier,

00:14:51.020 it was very stupid of Roseanne. The racist connotation was clearly there. And there were so

00:14:58.320 many things on which to attack Valerie Jarrett. Valerie Jarrett is a terrible woman. She hates 1.00

00:15:02.540 the United States. Attack Valerie Jarrett on her long ties via the Chicago Democratic machine 0.87

00:15:08.960 to be a vile racist Louis Farrakhan, a terrorist. Attack Valerie Jarrett for holding a woman's breakfast 0.92

00:15:18.780 to which every year she invites Linda Sarsour, another radical Muslim, to which she invites black 0.93

00:15:27.020 activists who support cop killers. There are so many things on which you can attack Valerie Jarrett

00:15:33.540 legitimately. Not on her looks. Not on her race. That's stupid. It's stupid. It's inappropriate. 0.99

00:15:41.220 It makes us look bad. We on the right lose when we get into the gutter like that. What we do is we

00:15:48.620 prove all of the false allegations the left levels at us. We want to prove them because they're false.

00:15:55.240 But we validate them. And we shouldn't. We're not racist on the right. The right is probably

00:16:02.080 the most open-minded movement on the planet. We want everybody to do well.

00:16:06.340 Nothing would make me happier as a conservative than everyone of every race succeeding. Because

00:16:14.400 if everyone of every race succeeded, we'd have more money in our economy. Our GDP would be 34 trillion,

00:16:19.680 not 17 trillion. No one in the world could touch us. I would love to see every African American in this

00:16:27.420 nation making well over the median national income. I would love to see graduation rates for black 0.65

00:16:34.340 Americans at a hundred percent from high school and college. Who wouldn't? I would like to see that 0.85

00:16:39.360 for every race. It only makes our nation stronger. Crime would be reduced. Poverty would be eradicated.

00:16:47.460 Little kids wouldn't go to sleep hungry. They wouldn't be dying of diseases because they can't

00:16:51.880 throw no adequate health care. They can't get to the doctor. Their parents would know better.

00:16:56.960 They'd be able to support them. That's of every race, of every race. Liberals don't want that.

00:17:03.480 Liberals want to keep people of color on the public dole. They want them to have as little as possible. 1.00

00:17:09.360 As little as possible to barely scrape by, but really not. They want to also have them dependent

00:17:15.500 on government to give them that handout, give them that handout, eat them just enough,

00:17:20.300 make their kids hungry then, and make them beg for that handout again and give it to them. 0.90

00:17:25.220 Liberalism is a sinister philosophy, a sinister philosophy. Couldn't have Roseanne out there 1.00

00:17:32.600 preaching conservatism. You couldn't have Roseanne portraying a working class family,

00:17:38.580 not a wealthy family, a working class family that supports conservatism. You can't have that. 0.99

00:17:45.600 And that's what I believe in the end the cancellation of her show was really about.

00:17:49.240 The public shaming of her was really about. It wasn't about one stupid tweet to which there

00:17:55.240 were a million different ways to punish her and have her do a mea culpa that the audience would 1.00

00:17:59.420 have been fined with, forgotten about in three days. No, no, no. This was all about

00:18:04.800 a grand-scale attempt to shame and silence conservatives.

00:18:10.920 The left is salivating with their stupid cries of obstruction of justice again, but even worse,

00:18:28.100 it appears that Donald Trump was right when he said that Mueller and his 13 angry Democrats

00:18:34.040 are going to meddle in the midterms and the 2020 presidential election, because we now see

00:18:40.180 what's being touted as a scoop by Michael Schmidt of the New York Times and Julie Hirschfeld Davis of

00:18:46.000 the New York Times. Title is Trump asked Sessions to retain control of Russia inquiry after his

00:18:53.220 Sessions recusal. And this is somehow indicative that Jeff Sessions, a major witness in the probe of

00:19:00.260 of obstruction of justice against Donald Trump. Let me read this.

00:19:05.640 Washington, by the time Attorney General Jeff Sessions arrived at President Trump's Mar-a-Lago

00:19:09.760 resort for dinner one Saturday evening in March 2017, he had been receiving the presidential

00:19:15.680 silent treatment for two days. Mr. Sessions had flown to Florida because Mr. Trump was refusing to

00:19:22.520 take his calls about a pressing decision on his travel ban. When they met, Mr. Trump was ready to

00:19:28.760 talk. Not about the travel ban. His grievance was with Mr. Sessions. The president objected to his

00:19:35.580 decision to recuse himself from the Russia investigation. Mr. Trump, who had told aides

00:19:40.860 that he needed a loyalist overseeing the inquiry, berated Mr. Sessions and told him he should reverse

00:19:46.200 his decision. An unusual and potentially inappropriate request, Mr. Sessions refused. Now, A, I don't believe

00:19:55.480 any of this. But B, there is nothing remotely improper or illegal about a president having a

00:20:03.700 dinner with his attorney general and saying, I'd like you to recuse. I'd like you to unrecuse.

00:20:09.000 And the attorney general saying, I can't do that. And the president saying, OK. Not like he said,

00:20:14.740 I'm ordering you. I'm firing you. Hey, Jeff, what do you think about unrecusing yourself? I really want

00:20:21.220 to oversee this thing. I'm sorry, Mr. President. I can't do it. The rules say I have to stay recused.

00:20:26.680 All right. I'm disappointed. But that's what it is. That is not obstruction of justice. That is not

00:20:32.820 remotely improper. That is not remotely illegal. The bigger problem here, the real story here is that

00:20:39.400 Mueller's team is leaking to the New York Times. That's what's unprecedented. Now, how do we know that

00:20:48.040 Mueller's leaking? Well, from the New York Times, the confrontation, which has not previously been

00:20:55.720 reported, is being investigated by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, as are the

00:21:03.640 president's public and private attacks on Mr. Sessions and efforts to get him to resign.

00:21:10.300 Mr. Trump dwelled on the recusal for months, according to confidants and current and former

00:21:14.720 administration officials who described his behavior toward the attorney general, probably writes

00:21:21.240 Priebus's crew leaking this. And some of Mueller's people, this is, again, proof that Donald Trump

00:21:31.740 should never have brought deep state RNC loyalists establishment hacks into the White House. But again,

00:21:41.260 this is not Robert Mueller's mandate. There is nothing illegal about Donald Trump mulling

00:21:50.220 or dwelling on something for months. We don't have thought police in this nation.

00:21:58.340 That's something you see in Saudi Arabia, the Sharia police. We don't have thought police. We don't 0.99

00:22:04.680 penalize a sitting United States president because he dwelled on something.

00:22:09.000 This is ridiculous. Now, Giuliani, Rudy Giuliani said that if Mr. Trump agreed to answer the special

00:22:17.580 counsel's question, an interview is the subject of continuing negotiations, he should not be forced

00:22:24.300 to discuss his private deliberations with senior admin officials, including the attorney general.

00:22:30.700 It would set a bad precedent for future presidents. There's executive privilege,

00:22:35.520 something Barack Obama and Eric Holder invoked without problem during the Fast and Furious scandal.

00:22:45.320 The attorney general, Jeff Sessions, was interviewed at length by Mueller's investigators in January,

00:22:50.980 which in and of itself is disgraceful. Now, Giuliani is saying the story in the Washington Post

00:22:58.740 today where Giuliani is saying he will not. Let me read you that. He will not.

00:23:08.540 Let me find this story for you, because he's saying that he will not speak to Mueller unless he has

00:23:15.480 all all of the Spygate testimony. The Giuliani Giuliani is saying here's the Washington Post story.

00:23:22.820 I found it. Giuliani says Trump won't sit for Mueller interview unless all FBI source documents

00:23:28.200 to be reviewed. And I think that is is highly necessary.

00:23:34.920 Because I don't trust these FBI spies. So the FBI and Mueller are going to use a spy in the campaign

00:23:41.040 who could make something up. They're going to ask Trump a question and then they're going to say,

00:23:45.460 we believe our spy, not Trump. Trump lied. Trump would have to be insane to sit with Mueller without

00:23:53.180 knowing what the Spygate documents say. He would have to be insane. And Giuliani is 100 percent right.

00:24:05.500 And Giuliani says about interviewing Trump that Mueller's interview with Trump would be a final step.

00:24:10.660 They reserve the possibility they might have to interview a few people as a follow up, but they said

00:24:14.240 they had pretty much finished. This was four weeks ago. Giuliani said, quote, I don't think they would

00:24:18.020 have asked to interview him unless they are pretty much finished with everything. And they're only

00:24:21.920 going to get one shot at him. They know that you look pretty amateurish if you interview him and you

00:24:25.720 don't have all the facts gathered. This is. This is just a an absolute travesty, what we're seeing

00:24:35.720 go on here with Mueller. Now, another guy that I've complained about that you all know I don't like

00:24:39.720 is Trey Gowdy. I think Trey Gowdy is an establishment hack. I think he's McCain's

00:24:44.160 puppet. I've never trusted Trey Gowdy. I've never been one of those people. Oh,

00:24:48.160 they're going in to be questioned by Trey Gowdy. Watch out. You don't want to be questioned by Trey

00:24:52.280 Gowdy. Yes, you do. Trey Gowdy's an establishment guy. Trey Gowdy gets up there and he screams and

00:24:57.960 yells and he hems and haws and Hillary smirks. Do you know why? Because he's like this with McCain

00:25:02.380 and Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio. He ran cover for Hillary in the Benghazi hearings. That's what

00:25:08.940 nobody realized. Trey Gowdy ran cover. Now Trey Gowdy is out there bucking for a network job.

00:25:15.020 The FBI was right to deploy an informant into the Trump campaign. Trey Gowdy says this from

00:25:21.800 a political story. He said, quote, I'm even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow

00:25:27.580 citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got. No, Trey. No,

00:25:33.420 we didn't want that. Gowdy has been great at dog and pony shows. Gowdy has been great at getting up

00:25:41.700 there and screaming and yelling and delivering zero results. People call him a chihuahua,

00:25:46.080 all bark and no bite because I've known a couple of little nippy chihuahuas. So I wouldn't even give 1.00

00:25:50.580 him that, but it's true. He's all bark. He's no bite. He runs cover for the establishment. Every

00:25:56.540 single chance he gets, he runs cover for the establishment. Every chance he gets.

00:26:02.480 Now, going back to the Sessions recusal story. Why is Jeff Sessions remaining recused?

00:26:11.260 He doesn't have to. He's been cleared of all wrongdoing with anything related to Russia.

00:26:17.520 There is no reason for Jeff Sessions to remain recused. I don't want to hear the 4D chess. He's

00:26:22.960 doing things behind the scenes. No, his silence is deafening and it's hurting the country,

00:26:28.600 not just the Trump administration. It's hurting the United States of America. Americans need to

00:26:36.640 know. I told you this last week. They need to know that their attorney general is running their

00:26:41.480 department of justice, not Robert Mueller, not Rod Rosenstein, who we all feel is compromised.

00:26:46.780 Sessions needs to get at the podium and say to America, look him in the eyes and say,

00:26:50.980 very sensitive things going on. I'm working very hard. Can't tell you much, but rest assured,

00:26:58.080 I am in control of the Department of Justice. Justice will be done fairly and ethically.

00:27:03.740 Jeff Sessions needs to stand on a podium and say it. Instead, he puts his glasses down,

00:27:08.860 he buries his face, and he talks about MS-13 and immigration. And he was out of the country

00:27:13.860 at the last MS-13 roundtable. Rod Rosenstein was there. Jeff Sessions wasn't even there.

00:27:21.520 What is the man doing? What is he doing? Where is he? He's obviously out there testifying to Mueller.

00:27:29.000 Jeff Sessions, to me, was the worst appointment Trump made. When Trump is wrong, I admit he's wrong.

00:27:34.820 I say he's wrong. Jeff Sessions was far and away the worst appointment this White House ever could

00:27:41.920 have made. But now, with Trey Gowdy running cover for Mueller and spies in the Trump campaign,

00:27:50.740 Mueller and former White House aides leaking to damage the presidency, and Mueller still demanding

00:27:57.080 that sit down with Trump while refusing to disclose the exculpatory evidence, something that Mueller's

00:28:02.820 team seems to not want to do. They don't want to follow the rules of federal criminal procedure and

00:28:07.060 disclose exculpatory evidence, evidence beneficial to the defense.

00:28:10.620 Robert Trump, I would not go within a thousand miles of Robert Mueller's interview room.

00:28:18.800 Tell him no. You're the president of the United States. Tell him no. But I think it is long past

00:28:23.340 time for Jeff Sessions to make a decision. Is he going to do his job as attorney general of the

00:28:28.480 United States? Because if he's not, he needs to step aside. At this point, I don't think Trump can fire

00:28:34.300 anybody. The political fallout will be too great. But Jeff Sessions needs to step aside for the good

00:28:40.820 of the United States of America.

00:28:42.020 So David Hogg and the liberal faction of the Parkland students are at it again, this time

00:28:58.620 launching what they're calling die-ins, actually laying on the floors of Publix supermarkets. And

00:29:04.440 they did this, well, they did it on Memorial Day weekend, really not seemingly caring about the people

00:29:09.360 who were shopping for their families, those people potentially veterans, families of veterans,

00:29:14.280 families and friends of veterans killed in action, but didn't seem to stop what I'm beginning to call

00:29:19.180 victim ink, the victim industrial complex. People like David Hogg, but more importantly,

00:29:25.440 his liberal masters, groups like Michael Bloomberg's anti-Second Amendment organizations,

00:29:30.720 and George Soros' Open Societies Foundation, unions like the Service Employee International Union,

00:29:36.020 far-left groups that are funding, and I feel, unfortunately, using these kids as pawns.

00:29:41.120 Here to discuss it with me is Javier Menares. Javi is the publisher of the Floridian and Shark Tank,

00:29:46.440 two of the most prominent Florida-based political sites. He's also a U.S. congressional candidate,

00:29:52.660 a Republican, for District 22. It is Javi, correct? District 22?

00:29:58.000 Yeah.

00:29:58.500 Which covers Parkland. You're looking to unseat, as a Republican, the Democrat, Ted Deutsch. Thanks for

00:30:03.320 being here. Thanks for having me. All right, let's talk a little bit about this die-in. I saw it in

00:30:07.460 the news. I rolled my eyes. David Hogg and his crew apparently are laying down on the floors of

00:30:11.780 public supermarkets to protest Publix, giving Florida's Secretary of Agriculture, Adam Putnam,

00:30:18.160 now a Republican gubernatorial candidate, he's in the primary, they are protesting them donating to

00:30:23.860 Putnam because the NRA also donated to Putnam, correct? Correct.

00:30:27.740 Right. So they staged this die-in. Did they do it at one Publix or multiple?

00:30:32.160 Actually, he did it in Coral Springs. I went to the Publix in Parkland where he did it,

00:30:36.520 where they conducted it as well. Oh, you were there. So you were actually at one of the locations.

00:30:40.700 Right.

00:30:41.320 What, how many, all right, first of course, how many students, activists showed up? Was it primarily

00:30:46.320 students or were there adults in the mix as well?

00:30:48.200 Right. I counted about 10 to 15, one adult and that adult was an actual priest.

00:30:53.260 Wow. Wow. And about 10 to 15 protesters. Right.

00:30:57.740 Now, what was the real general consensus of the customers? I know what they would say on the

00:31:03.020 cameras, they would want to seem to be supportive of the kids, but person to person, when the cameras

00:31:07.780 weren't rolling, when the media attention was off, were the people supportive, the customers in

00:31:12.060 Publix or were they basically rolling their eyes as well saying, okay, this is now ridiculous. I'm just

00:31:16.200 trying to buy groceries. Well, for the most part, when I walked in, they had just laid down

00:31:20.060 and the student, the actual customers didn't seem to care. They just ignored them. And they

00:31:24.320 walked right up, looked at them, walked away, walked out. Same with the employees. It was,

00:31:28.220 it was more like a nuisance. The look on their faces where they were annoyed over this because

00:31:33.160 like at the end of the day, I think most people think like, I think maybe you think that this was

00:31:37.040 just a simple mockery of the entire shooting. You need to die in for God's sakes on, like you said,

00:31:43.060 on Memorial Day weekend. But for the most part, what's worse is that they did it to, and they,

00:31:47.600 to emulate exactly what happened on February 14th. And it was, I think it was a slap in the face to

00:31:53.060 all those families and the 17 victims that died. And as a matter of fact, yesterday I was at my,

00:31:58.900 you know, my, my better half is pregnant. And as I was taking the elevator to my doctor's office,

00:32:04.120 I ran into Anthony, the last child released from the hospital. He was actually going up

00:32:09.640 to the sixth floor of Broward General to see his orthopedic surgeon, who happens to be one of my

00:32:14.820 close friends and supporters, Dr. B.J. Cross. What's the doctor's name? I'm sorry.

00:32:18.760 Dr. B.J. Cross, Brian Cross. Wow. And so, because I see kids like Kyle Koshev and others

00:32:25.000 who want no part of this, the Pollack family has been incredibly dignified in the way they've

00:32:29.840 handled it. Hunter Pollack, Meadow Pollack, of course, who was tragically murdered, her brother

00:32:33.220 has been very vocal on social media, condemning these, really basically saying, let's stop trivializing

00:32:40.120 this. Let's have bipartisan common sense solutions here, but let's stop with this far left agenda

00:32:46.000 driven. Really, this is, to me anyway, this is stunt activism, isn't it?

00:32:50.640 It was just a big gimmick. And I've said it before. I think I told, I confronted one of the

00:32:54.360 girls there and I said, look, what you guys are doing is a mockery. This is a gimmick.

00:32:59.220 It's disrespectful to the families, to everyone that was affected in the community and around

00:33:02.960 the country. And I asked her, would it be, would it be any different if Adam Putnam received

00:33:08.060 a B rating or a C rating? And she had no answer for it because they don't have an answer.

00:33:11.940 They just, they're just spewing talking points that they were handed to them by, like you

00:33:16.180 said, leftist groups, like the Soros of the World and the anti-gun lobby.

00:33:20.360 Javi, I'm glad you brought that up because that's such a critical distinction, right?

00:33:23.040 So what they're protesting is the fact that Adam Putnam received money from the NRA. And

00:33:26.700 my show has a conservative bent, so the audience knows for the most part that the NRA does ratings

00:33:31.340 of politicians. Putnam has consistently had an A rating, has been very good on the Second Amendment.

00:33:35.860 But you're right. I don't believe these kids know the difference between an A rating, a

00:33:40.000 B rating, a C rating. I would venture a guess the majority of them don't even know the NRA

00:33:43.600 rates politicians. They just heard NRA bad, left-wing groups good, Putnam got money from

00:33:49.300 NRA, so Publix gave them money as well. NRA bad, ergo Publix bad. I think it's that simple.

00:33:55.480 Right. The NRA is giving money to individuals who have B and C ratings because their opposition

00:34:00.640 has a D and F rating. I don't think they understand because, again, they're just, they are

00:34:05.420 pawns, as you said, to a bigger, to a bigger element. And this element doesn't care. They're

00:34:10.880 using these kids as to, to further their agenda. And people like Mr. Hogg, I say, I'm, I call

00:34:16.620 him Mr. Hogg because he's no longer a kid. He's an adult. He's 18, right? Yeah. And he,

00:34:20.640 and he needs to put his big boy pants up and deal with the criticism that's coming at him

00:34:24.260 because he can't hide behind his age and he can't hide behind the fact that he was a victim

00:34:29.820 during, on February 14th. The fact of the matter is I have, I support what he does in the sense that

00:34:36.960 he's expressing his first amendment, right? His right to do so. But at the end of the day,

00:34:41.460 what he's done is alienated half of America. And instead of, instead of taking that hobby, hobby,

00:34:47.340 let me, let me stop you there because we have some time to go and everything. It's really not his

00:34:50.780 first amendment rights inside of Publix. That's a private venue, a private business. Why did Publix

00:34:56.080 management, in your opinion, put these activists ahead of the convenience of their customers who

00:35:02.700 were spending money? Well, they, they simply got bullied and what are they going to do? Cause

00:35:07.600 there was, there was some press there and having kids escorted out or keep, kept from walking in

00:35:12.980 the store. I mean, or had police physically remove them, that would cause a bigger uproar and they

00:35:19.280 would look bad on Publix. No, I get, I get that. I get that. But maybe Publix should have issued a

00:35:23.340 statement saying something to the effect of that. While we didn't want the police to remove

00:35:28.220 misguided young protesters, we have to apologize to our customers are going to take steps to ensure 1.00

00:35:33.500 this doesn't inconvenience our paying customers again. Because look, I read, here's what bothered

00:35:38.380 me about what David Hogg did. And you're right. He's an adult. The protest was one thing, invading a

00:35:43.160 private businesses is another, but then he started shaking Publix down on Twitter, demanding they

00:35:48.920 double the donations to his group that they've given to Putnam and the NRA. Man, that I also posted

00:35:56.360 an image of the Florida extortion statute on Twitter alongside David Hogg's tweet. And he was

00:36:02.020 dangerously close to that line, if not crossing it. Well, I mean, this is what we can expect from

00:36:08.260 them. I mean, I've had a confrontation with him before. And at the end of the day, he, he, he has

00:36:13.280 sold his soul to whomever has paid him or, or has promised him the world because he had an opportunity

00:36:19.600 to be this great, uh, uh, uniter on this issue. And he chose a different path and it's going to

00:36:26.060 down the road. It's going to, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a second amendment violation. If what

00:36:30.120 they're trying to do here, it's basically, he's taken a different path. That path is not the right

00:36:35.680 path. And eventually it's going to be egg in his face and all the Democrats, including George Soros.

00:36:39.840 Yeah. And I wanted to have you on today, because like I said, you're running in district 22. It

00:36:43.200 covers Parkland at Ted Deutch's district. You've been one of the, I would say the most prominent

00:36:48.640 reporters, literally at ground zero, uh, on this issue. You've been at Parkland. You've been meeting

00:36:54.120 with the victims. You've been to the Pollux events at their homes. You've, you've been an institution

00:36:58.100 down here as a conservative reporter for quite a while, but you've been reporting down here since

00:37:02.400 like 1953. You just look really good for your age, but, but no, you really have been with Shark Tank and

00:37:07.980 now the Floridian, you've been an institution down here on the conservative side of journalism,

00:37:11.660 but you also live in Broward. You're running in that district, right? And you're a law and order

00:37:15.440 guy because you just got a big endorsement. Florida attorney general, Pam Bondi just endorsed your

00:37:20.400 candidacy for your candidacy for Congress. I mean, that's a pretty damn big endorsement in this

00:37:25.600 climate, especially in light of the Stoneman Douglas shooting.

00:37:28.360 Right. And listen, uh, Pam has done great for the, for the, for the state. I mean, she's her,

00:37:33.820 her, her, her record is, is impeccable. It's beyond reproach. I'm, I'm honored to have her

00:37:38.800 support. And wait, I want to say something before we go on. I have been very vocal about saying,

00:37:43.080 because she's turned out in November and I'm a fan of Pam Bondi. I want her to be the second

00:37:47.240 special counsel. Just wanted to throw that out there. I'll, I'll relay the message, please.

00:37:53.280 No, but keep going. Cause she has been very good for the state. She has been a law and order,

00:37:56.680 and I'm, listen, I'm honored to have her endorsement. It's she, she rarely dishes out

00:38:01.540 endorsements and for her to endorse me. And she, and she called me yesterday to, to tell me that

00:38:06.620 she was proud of endorsing. I, it meant a lot to me and to what we're trying to do. And listen,

00:38:11.840 she's been the top cop for eight years. And her, her, like I said, her, her record is impeccable.

00:38:16.580 You can't, it's beyond reproach. And, uh, listen, you had mentioned I'm running for Congress. It's

00:38:21.620 true. But as unfortunate with a lot of readers don't know, a lot of people do not know yet is that

00:38:25.540 after the shooting, my Democrat opponent, Ted Deutsch, for whatever reason, and we probably

00:38:30.700 know what it is. He started exploiting this shooting. Uh, first he lied about living in

00:38:36.000 the district. He stated on Twitter, you can't make this up that he lived in Parkland, that he was home

00:38:40.420 in Parkland, which he lives five or six miles away in Boca Raton in a different city.

00:38:44.760 Yeah. He's been getting hammered for that over the years. I've noticed that Deutsch, whenever

00:38:48.820 something happens in lower Broward County and upper Broward County, Northwestern Broward County,

00:38:53.100 he claims he lives in that area and that it always comes out. Well, no, he doesn't. He lives in Boca on

00:38:56.800 the Palm Beach County side.

00:38:58.500 Yeah. But, but if you look at his Twitter feed, his Facebook ad nauseum, he's exploited these kids.

00:39:03.580 All he does is, is, is pass out pictures or hold up pictures, throw out their names. I mean, it's like,

00:39:09.900 it's like, I, I'd never seen anything like it before. I've seen exploitation.

00:39:13.540 Listen, Javi, I listened to him. I went to Stoneman Douglas on a president's day, right? The memorial

00:39:19.960 was up. And then they held that rally over in Coral Springs, about four minutes from the school

00:39:24.340 at the performing arts center there. I listened, you were, that's right. You were there, but I think

00:39:28.860 we were there at different times. And did you, were you there when Deutsch spoke? Yes. Okay. I didn't

00:39:33.520 see you in the room. I was in the back. Okay. I heard him lie when he lied, when he said that the

00:39:40.080 Republicans made AR-15s legal again in 2004, he flat out lied to the crowd about AR-15s being

00:39:47.440 illegal during Clinton's assault weapons ban. There were minor accessories that were deemed

00:39:51.340 illegal. He lied to a room of several hundred people. I mean, a sitting congressman on camera

00:39:56.680 lied. But what more can you expect from Ted Deutsch? He's got like the Democrats, his party,

00:40:02.720 they have no message. They have no, they all they have are points that are anti-American,

00:40:08.060 pro-socialist talk points. They have nothing else to say. There's no message there. So all they do

00:40:12.960 is, all they do is revert back to their talk points and their lies, which are one and the same.

00:40:16.800 Now, let me, the reason I brought up Bondi's, Bondi's endorsement of you is that I know Pam

00:40:20.180 has taken this, Pam Bondi, our attorney general, has taken the Parkland shooting very seriously.

00:40:24.620 I mean, it really hit home for her. When you speak to cops around the state, they say she's one of

00:40:28.520 the best partners they've ever had in the attorney general's office. Federal, state, and local

00:40:31.900 cops will all tell you that. But she wouldn't have endorsed you lightly, which, which says a lot to me.

00:40:36.980 And should say a lot to the constituents. Going now, moving from that, what do you think

00:40:41.860 the next move is for David Hogg and his far left cronies? Because I don't believe they're going to

00:40:47.920 stop at Publix. Publix, I think they had, there were unintended consequences, right? Publix decided

00:40:52.460 as a result of the protests to shut down all political donations now, even to Democrat and

00:40:57.800 left-leaning organizations. Well, listen, I think the next step is that they're going to start

00:41:02.860 targeting candidates and people who are like, they already have, but I fully expect them to target

00:41:10.040 me and some of my advertisers and go after people like that and try to damage families and homes

00:41:15.560 because they don't care. You know, David Hogg, David Hogg may be 18 years old, but he's, he's far

00:41:20.820 from being a man in the sense that he doesn't, I don't think he understands the concept of what he's

00:41:26.420 doing and how it could affect families, uh, directly, directly. He doesn't get it. He just

00:41:31.180 doesn't know yet because he, right now he's still, he's still wallowing in his 15 minutes of fame

00:41:35.560 and, and his, and his handlers are propping him up that to do this, to do the other. And he doesn't

00:41:41.020 get, I think down the road, uh, eventually he will get a taste of his own medicine somehow by some

00:41:46.340 person and maybe it'll dawn on him there. But right now he just doesn't get the kind of damage

00:41:50.460 he has done and could do to, uh, to other Americans, regardless.

00:41:53.700 Hey, you've been digging into this story. Who's paying David Hogg's bills? Who's paying

00:41:58.520 for the travel, the buses, the chauffeur driven SUVs, the television appearances, the PR, the

00:42:03.840 clothing, who's paying the bills? 0.97

00:42:06.800 Listen, your guess is good as mine. There's a, there's a ton of, uh, liberal Democrat groups.

00:42:11.580 Listen, what they stand to lose, the amount of money they stand to lose in this election

00:42:16.580 is unprecedented. Hundreds of millions of dollars, they stand to lose in special interests.

00:42:20.800 If they lose, if, if let's say I beat, uh, Ted Deutsch and, uh, and other, and we, we retain,

00:42:26.980 we retain the control of the house and the Senate and because it moves into 2020. And if we win the

00:42:32.360 governor's mansion, uh, there's a pretty good chance that president Trump is going to get reelected.

00:42:36.740 Let's go to that for a second. Put on your political blogger hat, take off your, your political

00:42:40.040 reporter now hat with the Floridian, take off your congressional candidate hat. How do we not

00:42:45.280 win the governor's mansion? We have good candidates in both Putnam and DeSantis,

00:42:49.040 uh, depending on who wins the primary and Gwen Graham, the, the presumed Democrat front leader

00:42:54.840 is now running on the platform of raising taxes. In fact, I, I had a, uh, a text conversation.

00:43:01.080 I won't say the name of the mutual friend of ours, who's a political operative in Tallahassee.

00:43:04.880 And we compared Gwen Graham's platform to Walter Mondale's in 1984. They're nearly identical.

00:43:10.480 They're nearly identical. I mean, how does she, how did the Democrats in Florida expect to be

00:43:14.760 competitive if they want to raise taxes in a state that people move to because of our

00:43:19.520 advantageous tax rates? Right. But, but again, listen to what you just said. All she is doing

00:43:24.460 is spewing a talking point that makes sense for her liberal basis. Remember, she needs to get past 1.00

00:43:30.600 the primary. She's going up against three other Uber liberals in Levine and Gillum and in King. 0.99

00:43:36.340 She needs that out liberal. Right. Isn't Phillip Luda, Phillip Luda in the former mayor of Miami

00:43:40.300 beach. Yes. Far left guy. He, I would argue you're on the ground more in Florida than I am these days,

00:43:45.660 but I would argue that he and Graham are probably the two primary front runners for the Dems. No,

00:43:50.360 right. They are because they have the most name. Right. Levine's platform has become Uber far left,

00:43:56.980 right? Well, that's what they're, they're going after this. They're trying to garner the same,

00:44:01.040 the voting block, the Uber leftist, these supporters that are go out and, uh, and throw

00:44:05.700 firebombs at you. These are the type of people they need to, they need to win over to win that

00:44:09.720 general primary election. And I'm sure they'll pivot back and they'll flip flop on these issues

00:44:14.180 because listen, if, when you're for tax, uh, raising taxes, that's a losing proposition. That's

00:44:20.280 a losing issues. And, uh, uh, most Democrats, every Democrat in the U S house of representatives

00:44:25.520 voted against the historic tax reform bill, uh, that president Trump, uh,

00:44:30.680 signed. So raising taxes is not a good, uh, campaign strategy.

00:44:34.480 No, it's never, you know, there, I remember being a little kid. There was an old Saturday

00:44:38.240 night live skit mocking Walter Mondale as being the only candidate in history to run on raising taxes,

00:44:43.820 even including those running for like unincorporated school board. I mean,

00:44:47.280 it was a joke back then that even the liberals mocked it back then, you know, that raising taxes.

00:44:53.740 So I personally feel, I feel we keep the governor's mansion in Florida red. I feel that

00:44:58.960 governor Rick Scott Walsh is doing easy win over Bill Nelson in the U S Senate. What do you think?

00:45:04.180 I tend to agree with you. I look at the numbers, like Senator Nelson has never faced this kind of

00:45:09.620 candidate, the kind of money that's going to be thrown at him, uh, and against him. He's,

00:45:14.640 I don't think he's going to be able to recover because I think the Democrats are, are, are,

00:45:18.100 they won't admit it, but I think they're willing to concede the seat because they're not willing

00:45:21.140 to spend all these millions of dollars to defend one seat when they have to try to defend others.

00:45:25.440 And they're trying to win over other seats, but they'll spend millions. I don't think they'll

00:45:29.320 spend the hundreds of millions that it's going to be needed. I mean, Javi, I've seen as we're

00:45:33.520 running out of time, but I've seen estimates that our Senate race could be a two, $300 million

00:45:37.380 race. Well, I, I, I say, this is that in my seat, I think I'm going to be sandwiched between three

00:45:43.800 to five million, a hundred million dollars from a gubernatorial standpoint, as far as the Senate

00:45:47.540 standpoint, I think in my district, I'll be sandwiched between all that money.

00:45:51.700 Yeah, no, I think you will, but you know, it's funny. Your district has become far more competitive

00:45:54.800 than it was even six months ago. Conventional wisdom was a Republican couldn't win Florida

00:45:59.900 Congressional District 22. People now aren't so sure. No, because listen, it takes a unique

00:46:06.640 candidate to win this. You have to thread that needle. Our campaign, the message is transcending

00:46:11.340 across political lines and demographics. You can't just be just a regular, a guy who thinks you want

00:46:18.000 to run and not be able to connect with the most of the electorate because it's a very diverse

00:46:21.900 district. You have to be able to have, you have to have a message that, that everyone can agree

00:46:26.600 with, that everyone can relate to.

00:46:28.760 Javi Minara is publisher of the Shark Tank and the Floridian, also a Republican candidate

00:46:33.460 for Florida's 22nd congressional district and a good buddy of mine, Javi. Thanks very much.

00:46:37.860 And really appreciate it.

00:46:50.900 Normally, I'm pretty tough on criminal justice cases, but not this one. I want to tell you the

00:46:54.480 story, if you haven't seen it, of Matthew Charles. Now, Matthew Charles is a guy who served 21 of 35

00:47:01.420 years, federal prison for a non-violent drug dealing conviction. Now, look, I'm a hard line

00:47:08.120 on certain crime, but 21 years for drug dealing, I'd say that's more than adequate, probably a little

00:47:13.480 severe. I've seen armed, I've seen murderers, armed robbers get five years, seven years, 21 years

00:47:19.780 or served 21 years of a 35 year sentence is a bit insane, is a bit insane. And Matthew Charles,

00:47:27.460 two years ago, is released from prison. Since his release, Matthew Charles has been fully employed.

00:47:34.980 He's become very religious. He volunteers. He's in a serious, stable, romantic relationship with a

00:47:40.740 woman who's gainfully employed. He finally found himself a small apartment. It's decorated and he's

00:47:46.100 got photos and he has roots and he's doing all of the things a person does who typically isn't a

00:47:52.640 recidivist offender. The guy had enough. He had 21 years in prison, going about his life, not bothering

00:47:59.120 anybody. He's not looking to get rich. He's not looking to score big. He just wants to live his life

00:48:04.000 in peace. Well, it turns out because the federal government screwed up bureaucratically, because they

00:48:11.980 screwed up bureaucratically, the government appealed his release on a technicality. This man might be

00:48:19.440 sent back to prison, possibly to serve the remaining 14 years. And I have a problem with that. And this

00:48:26.840 is one case where I think President Trump should step in and commute Matthew Charles's sentence because

00:48:33.740 society is not served. Justice is not served. The public is no safer putting this man back in prison.

00:48:42.300 All we're doing is is is engaging in draconian punishment of somebody that's proven over two

00:48:51.480 years. Listen, if this guy were going to reoffend, he would have done it in two years. He would have

00:48:54.880 done it in the first two months, but he didn't. Again, got a full time job and a stable relationship

00:48:59.480 at a place to live, a small apartment. We can afford it. And I say small. He's not living above

00:49:04.640 his means. He's clearly trying to live his life properly. And I think this would be a very good way

00:49:10.140 for Donald Trump to dispel the myths of racism that that that plague his administration. He

00:49:14.980 pardoned a boxer, Jack Johnson. And I think the president, not a pardon. Nobody's asking for a

00:49:21.280 pardon for Matthew Charles. He committed the crime. He did the time. But I do think the president

00:49:26.360 should commute his sentence and say the 21 years served is sufficient. This guy does not have to go

00:49:31.440 back to jail. And many, many conservatives agree. This is a story from the Federalist. And they outline

00:49:38.340 all of the risks for the president and the rewards for the president and the rewards for the

00:49:44.180 Constitution far outweigh the risks. Let me read you the last paragraph of this Federalist.

00:49:51.320 Prisons serve at least two important purposes. One is to punish. Another is to rehabilitate.

00:49:55.860 Charles has been subject to both. Matthew Charles has been subject to both. 21 years in prison is a

00:50:00.280 quarter of a lifetime and a heavy price to pay for selling drugs. I agree. He emerged a positive

00:50:04.640 member of society. This should be celebrated, not reversed. And I'll add, not punished.

00:50:09.780 In this case, Charles and so many others, Donald Trump can do what he does best, which is to act

00:50:14.540 independently, decisively and strongly. He alone can right this and so many other wrongs. And there

00:50:19.440 is every reason to believe he has the courage to do it. I believe that. And I think the president

00:50:24.340 of the United States should step in and help this guy. Because what message are we sending to those

00:50:29.840 people who are in prison? And again, you know, I'm a hardliner on criminal justice. But there are

00:50:34.160 people in prison who truly, when they get out, say, man, I screwed up. I am done. I'm going to go

00:50:39.800 get a job. I'm going to live my life productively. I'm going to toe the line. I'm going to do everything

00:50:43.940 right because I never want to be back there. What message are we sending to them by saying, well,

00:50:49.220 even if you did your part and you were released and we unlocked the doors, we let you out.

00:50:54.060 You did everything right. Oh, the government screwed up. We're going to punish you again.

00:50:57.400 Something about that is fundamentally wrong. And I really hope President Trump steps in and commutes

00:51:03.360 Matthew Charles' side.

Rebel News Podcast - May 31, 2018

Off The Cuff Declassified - John Cardillo - May 30⧸2018

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