Rebel News Podcast - Off The Cuff Declassified： North Korea, Kurt Schlichter, Mars & the Belmont Stakes

00:00:00.000 Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, Donald Trump keeps up the heat on North Korea.

00:00:05.600 Kurt Schlichter joins me to wrap up the week.

00:00:07.920 A really interesting scientific discovery on Mars

00:00:11.140 and some disturbing information about Triple Crown hopeful, Justified.

00:00:21.640 Now one thing you've got to hand Donald Trump is he always leaves them guessing.

00:00:26.340 Yesterday at a joint press conference at the White House

00:00:29.720 with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe,

00:00:32.680 Donald Trump once again gave us a little uncertainty about North Korea.

00:00:37.460 He said, I'm ready to walk away from the North Korea summit.

00:00:41.860 He said, quote, I'm totally prepared to walk away.

00:00:44.660 And he's saying if Kim Jong-un does not agree to denuclearize,

00:00:49.240 he might very well walk away.

00:00:51.180 Now Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said that when he met with Kim,

00:00:54.480 Kim was fully ready to denuclearize.

00:00:56.740 But the president is leaving all options open,

00:01:00.840 letting North Korea know that just because they came back to the table,

00:01:04.540 it doesn't mean they have carte blanche.

00:01:06.720 They do not have a blank check.

00:01:08.860 Trump said, like I said, I'm totally prepared to walk.

00:01:11.460 Maybe it won't be necessary.

00:01:12.740 I hope it won't be necessary.

00:01:14.120 This is all direct quotes.

00:01:15.620 I believe that Kim Jong-un wants to do something

00:01:17.580 that is going to be great for his people

00:01:19.380 and also great for his family, great for himself.

00:01:23.080 He added that, the president added that the U.S.

00:01:27.540 could also absolutely sign an agreement to end the Korean War

00:01:31.640 and to bring things back to pre-1950s levels with North Korea.

00:01:40.100 Trump is leaving everything on the table.

00:01:42.880 And so when asked if he was willing to sign a peace agreement

00:01:46.820 to normalize relationships with Pyongyang,

00:01:49.200 Trump said, quote, we would certainly like to see normalization.

00:01:52.740 We could sign an agreement.

00:01:53.760 That would be a first step.

00:01:55.220 It's what happens after the agreement.

00:01:57.380 But yes, we could absolutely sign an agreement.

00:02:01.340 He went on to say that's really the beginning.

00:02:03.520 Sounds a little bit strange, but that's probably the easy part.

00:02:06.120 The hard part is after that.

00:02:08.200 Now, he did say that he expected to normalize relations with North Korea.

00:02:13.500 The summit, of course, right now, is scheduled for next Tuesday.

00:02:19.220 This coming Tuesday, actually, June 12th at the Capella Hotel in Singapore.

00:02:26.020 Anything can happen over the weekend in this administration.

00:02:29.380 Anything can happen in the next 30 minutes.

00:02:33.140 Now, Trump also said some other very interesting things about North Korea.

00:02:37.480 He said, I hope to do that when it came to normalizing relations with North Korea. 0.54

00:02:41.700 He said, this is what was very interesting to me, quote, maximum pressure is in full effect.

00:02:49.920 We don't use that term anymore because we're going into a friendly negotiation.

00:02:54.600 Perhaps after that negotiation, I'll use it again.

00:02:58.600 We'll know how well we do with the negotiation.

00:03:03.400 If you see me say we're going to use maximum pressure,

00:03:06.520 you know the negotiation did not do well, frankly.

00:03:09.060 This is a new kind of diplomacy, and I like it.

00:03:17.340 I like it a lot.

00:03:19.600 He said, Trump went on to say, in the meantime, we haven't removed any sanctions.

00:03:24.240 And he said that the United States has over 300 massive sanctions that they're ready to impose on North Korea.

00:03:32.400 The president said he decided to hold off on that until a deal is made, and he believes there's the potential to make a deal.

00:03:41.540 It's very nice, very nice.

00:03:44.900 And I use the word nice, the one I'm going to read you next.

00:03:47.200 To see a president that puts America first, that understands the weight, the might, the power of the United States of America,

00:03:53.700 that we don't have to be the world's doormat.

00:03:56.200 I tell you that every day.

00:03:58.080 But Trump then said, and he said a lot, this was all caught on video, about not using terms like, what was the term he used?

00:04:07.760 Maximum pressure.

00:04:09.240 Not imposing any of the 300 possible sanctions.

00:04:12.980 The reason he said, he decided to hold off on that.

00:04:15.860 He said, I don't think it's nice going in under those circumstances.

00:04:18.380 Like, I don't want to walk into the deal being a jerk.

00:04:20.680 I don't want to walk into the deal twisting arms by imposing all of these sanctions and leveraging it.

00:04:26.780 Pyongyang knows we can do it.

00:04:29.040 Kim Jong-un knows I can do it.

00:04:30.940 His generals know I can do it.

00:04:33.040 So I'm going to walk into the meeting.

00:04:34.760 I'm going to walk into the meeting in good faith next week in Singapore.

00:04:40.080 And I'm going to see how this plays out.

00:04:41.960 Because I can always put those things in a place.

00:04:44.280 But right now, I want to give this meeting the best chance of succeeding.

00:04:47.960 He said, the campaign hasn't changed.

00:04:51.940 We're leaving all of the existing sanctions on.

00:04:54.500 So he's not going to impose any new ones.

00:04:55.960 But he is leaving all of the existing sanctions in place.

00:04:59.640 And he then reiterated that he has many more to use.

00:05:02.300 But he doesn't want to use them unless it's absolutely necessary.

00:05:07.340 He's very clear about that.

00:05:09.500 You know, I don't think it'll be necessary.

00:05:11.040 But we'll know soon.

00:05:11.820 Now, this is such an interesting kind of diplomacy.

00:05:18.600 He's also bringing Dennis Rodman with him.

00:05:22.360 That's a new form of diplomacy.

00:05:24.380 Kim Jong-un, big basketball fan.

00:05:26.320 He was enamored with Dennis Rodman.

00:05:28.120 Remember, Rodman went there.

00:05:30.280 And a lot of people thought that looked very bad.

00:05:32.620 But I like that Trump understands how to play Kim Jong-un.

00:05:37.300 Now, John Bolton will not be there in Singapore next week.

00:05:40.740 And that's also a smart move.

00:05:42.500 It doesn't mean that Bolton is out on the outs to president.

00:05:45.120 It doesn't mean that we should read between the lines.

00:05:47.520 What it means is that when Bolton talked about the Libya doctrine,

00:05:51.580 and basically that was taken to mean that if a nation denuclearizes, as Libya did,

00:05:56.600 well, their leader might find themselves dead with their body being paraded through the streets not long after.

00:06:02.340 So when Bolton spoke about Libya, Kim Jong-un, North Korean leader, got visibly upset.

00:06:08.600 It's almost killed the meeting.

00:06:09.620 But Trump realizes, hey, look, we need peace in that region.

00:06:13.100 We need peace on the Korean Peninsula.

00:06:15.000 We're probably never going to get true peace from this guy.

00:06:17.880 But at least if we can neutralize him a little bit, if we can calm this maniac down, well, that's better than nothing.

00:06:25.980 You've got Secretary of State Mike Pompeo going with the president.

00:06:29.220 And Pompeo has done, so far, an outstanding job at keeping Kim Jong-un in check, at getting him to come to the table.

00:06:37.580 You've got the president there.

00:06:39.180 And John Bolton is going to be with the National Security Council in the White House.

00:06:43.640 A video conference or phone call away if needed.

00:06:46.880 Don't bring him if it's going to put the meeting in jeopardy.

00:06:51.980 There's no harm, no foul, and no loss of face to the United States.

00:06:55.500 And you know that.

00:06:56.020 I don't care who's in the White House.

00:06:57.360 I don't care if it's Donald Trump.

00:06:58.620 I don't care if it's any president I back.

00:07:00.640 If a move is made that I don't agree with, I'm going to call it out.

00:07:03.860 I'm not a cheerleader.

00:07:04.620 I've never been a cheerleader.

00:07:06.460 I've never been me.

00:07:07.880 I've never been that guy.

00:07:10.020 So Trump also jabbed North Korea a little bit because he ended the session with Prime Minister Abe of Japan today,

00:07:17.860 where they were mostly talking about North Korea.

00:07:19.980 Japan is seriously affected by whatever happens in North Korea.

00:07:23.680 The weapons, the nuclear weapons North Korea is trying to build can easily reach Japan. 0.56

00:07:29.440 Their rockets, allegedly, can reach Japan.

00:07:32.460 So Japan has many dogs in this fight.

00:07:36.340 And Trump ended by paying tribute to the family of Otto Warmbier, of course,

00:07:40.960 the student who died last June after being released from 17 months in North Korea in captivity.

00:07:49.180 When we got him back, he was brain dead.

00:07:51.500 It was a terrible case.

00:07:52.800 The president said of Warmbier, he has not died in vain.

00:07:55.880 I can tell you that.

00:07:56.580 He has not died in vain.

00:07:58.160 To the Warmbier family, our love and respect.

00:08:00.580 We were tremendously successful in getting our three hostages back.

00:08:05.520 I'm very thankful for the cooperation we received in North Korea.

00:08:08.500 Now, he said about the other three hostages that they are very happily ensconced in their homes with their families.

00:08:15.380 Families, they didn't think it was going to happen.

00:08:19.140 And he said, frankly, it wouldn't have happened, but it has.

00:08:22.160 Now, Obama did not get these people out.

00:08:23.900 Obama was the world's doormat.

00:08:25.660 Trump then wrapped up and said, I really believe that we have the potential to do something incredible for the world.

00:08:31.140 It's my honor to be involved.

00:08:33.760 And the president's right.

00:08:35.480 The potential to do something great for the world really is there.

00:08:39.920 Trump is a doer.

00:08:41.320 He's getting things done, whereas others were rhetorical.

00:08:44.680 All they did was talk about getting things done.

00:08:48.660 You've got people on the left saying, oh, Trump is running there and he did what North Korea asked and North Korea won.

00:08:54.320 No, they didn't.

00:08:55.240 No, they didn't.

00:08:56.620 They came begging.

00:08:58.140 They came back to the White House, that big envelope, begging for this meeting, begging for the United States to come back to the table.

00:09:04.960 We're winning this one.

00:09:06.260 We're winning this one in a very big, very public and very positive way.

00:09:11.220 We're standing.

00:09:12.360 Look at the optics of it.

00:09:13.340 We're forcing Kim to not meet us in North Korea where he meets everybody else.

00:09:18.140 It has to be neutral in Singapore.

00:09:20.460 We're talking about it with the president of the United States standing next to the Japanese prime minister.

00:09:26.980 Japan has always been a thorn in North Korea's side.

00:09:30.080 North Korea knows they don't have a choice here.

00:09:33.020 Their GDP is $12.4 billion.

00:09:37.480 It's nothing.

00:09:38.920 It's a pittance.

00:09:40.840 That's why their people are starving. 0.96

00:09:42.520 That's why their country has no forward momentum.

00:09:47.300 Japan's GDP is in the trillions.

00:09:50.680 Ours is $18 trillion.

00:09:52.120 I believe Japan's is $4.5 to $5 trillion.

00:09:55.100 Japan is an economic monster, a powerhouse.

00:09:58.300 When compared to North Korea, Japan's GDP is bigger than Russia's.

00:10:02.600 And so North Korea is afraid of an alliance, terrified of an alliance between Japan and the United States.

00:10:10.380 You also have to realize that the Asian culture is about respect.

00:10:14.520 It's about not backing down.

00:10:16.940 It's about saving face.

00:10:19.000 It's about having self-respect, dignity.

00:10:21.520 So when North Korea saber rattles and Donald Trump talks tough and says, I'm prepared to walk, maximum pressure, I can level more sanctions.

00:10:30.960 This is posturing between North Korea and the U.S. 0.63

00:10:34.460 North Korea is testing the U.S. to make sure that the U.S. is that strong kid on the block with that dignity and self-respect that isn't going to back down.

00:10:43.740 Obama backed down every time.

00:10:45.240 That's why North Korea never respected him, because culturally, Obama showed weakness.

00:10:53.500 He showed a malleable spine.

00:10:56.520 He was flimsy.

00:10:58.180 They could threaten him, and he'd cave.

00:11:00.840 Trump doesn't cave.

00:11:02.080 Trump says, eh, you want to walk away?

00:11:04.380 Walk away.

00:11:05.080 I've got 300 more sanctions I can put on you.

00:11:07.900 I don't want to do it.

00:11:09.460 I don't think it'd be nice to go into the meeting doing that.

00:11:11.500 But you want to walk?

00:11:13.140 Walk.

00:11:14.020 We're the U.S. with our 18 trillion in GDP.

00:11:17.100 Everybody's got air conditioning and flat screens.

00:11:19.560 You, North Korea, can't even feed your own people. 0.98

00:11:23.000 We don't.

00:11:23.400 We have nothing to lose from you walking.

00:11:25.140 Walk.

00:11:25.540 See you later.

00:11:26.740 Bye.

00:11:27.900 And that's what other presidents didn't understand.

00:11:30.880 They did understand, but they really felt they had to play that globalist game.

00:11:35.480 They had to keep the charade going and keep the globalists happy.

00:11:39.660 It was ridiculous.

00:11:41.460 It was absolutely ridiculous.

00:11:43.500 It was actually pretty disgraceful.

00:11:45.480 And now Trump comes in and he's standing next to Japan and he says, hey, look, summit is on, but I can easily walk away.

00:11:51.640 You do it our way or we don't do it at all.

00:11:55.120 Do it our way or we don't do it at all.

00:11:56.780 And that's what, that's what the world has been lacking.

00:12:01.560 This kind of leadership.

00:12:03.840 The world is going to be much safer.

00:12:05.880 I believe the summit will happen.

00:12:07.800 I believe Kim will denuclearize to a point that will be satisfactory.

00:12:12.140 I never trust that guys like Kim Jong-un, Bashir al-Assad in Syria, Khomeini and Rouhani in Iran will ever fully comply when asked to give up certain weaponry.

00:12:23.200 But I do think with North Korea, because they're so poor, they're going to be much easier control to control than others once that door cracks open. 0.91

00:12:33.120 Now, the other part of this that Trump understands, and I say it often, as much as Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul, too, brought down the Berlin Wall, so did McDonald's in Moscow.

00:12:44.860 So did Levi's jeans making their way into then Soviet Russia.

00:12:51.780 Capitalism, the flood of capitalism, the flood of Western goods and ideals and media can do far more to change a culture, to make it freer, to make it less oppressive, to make it more Western than any troops can do.

00:13:09.760 Then any amount of troops, any amount of weapons, no matter how powerful, no matter how numerous the troops are, you give people in North Korea a little taste of America, they are going to be hooked.

00:13:21.160 They are going to want more and more and more.

00:13:24.620 And that's what Trump understands.

00:13:26.020 We don't need to get everything we want.

00:13:27.560 We just have to crack the door open a little bit.

00:13:30.100 With North Korea, we just have to get in a little bit. 0.97

00:13:32.140 And once we do, once you let a little bit of water in, and that water starts pouring in more and more and more, and that's like a rushing rapid, that door can never close again.

00:13:42.660 You're never going to stop that flow.

00:13:45.300 It's just not going to happen.

00:13:47.940 Go to Communist Russia 30 years ago and see what happened there when that wall came in 1989, 29 years ago.

00:13:55.580 It's a pretty remarkable thing.

00:13:58.760 It's a really remarkable thing.

00:14:00.180 And I think that we really owe it to the president as Americans to back this, because I think this will be absolutely historic.

00:14:12.380 And I think Donald Trump is playing this in exactly the right way.

00:14:15.400 With any other president, this meeting would have fallen down.

00:14:17.940 So let's keep an eye on what's going to happen with North Korea throughout the weekend.

00:14:21.620 But I predict, barring Kim Jong-un doing anything crazy, which I don't put past him,

00:14:26.680 But if everything stays on the path it's on right now, I predict the summit will happen on Tuesday in Singapore.

00:14:34.300 And I predict that the United States will emerge from that summit a very big winner.

00:14:40.220 A lot going on this week.

00:14:53.360 Robert Mueller wants cell phones.

00:14:55.000 Trump is still threatening to pull out of the North Korea summit.

00:14:57.920 And we find out that MSNBC has been condoning a lot of hate from host Joy Ann Reed.

00:15:03.540 Joining me now to recap the week, our very own Kurt Lector.

00:15:06.720 It's a big week, John.

00:15:09.340 It's a big, huge, huge week.

00:15:12.260 Mueller is now asking witnesses in the Paul Manafort case to turn over their cell phones.

00:15:16.980 To me, this is an absolute trampling of the Fourth Amendment.

00:15:20.500 But even worse, he doesn't want to look at texts and emails and listen to voicemails.

00:15:24.440 He wants access to their encrypted apps.

00:15:27.660 Apps like Confide, Signal, Dust.

00:15:30.020 So he can just make sure that there's no witness tampering on the part of Mueller.

00:15:34.220 Yeah, the witness tampering is all for the feds.

00:15:39.880 Because the feds go and talk to witnesses.

00:15:42.060 They prep the witnesses.

00:15:43.840 Everybody preps witnesses.

00:15:45.760 You talk about what they're going to say.

00:15:48.100 You tell them the way to phrase it.

00:15:51.600 I have no doubt that Mueller tells them what he wants them to say.

00:15:55.560 Because I don't trust Mueller or the Democrats on his team.

00:15:58.860 I just don't.

00:15:59.460 If you're representing one of these clients, I look at it from a law enforcement standpoint.

00:16:05.080 And there were a couple of good legal analyses written.

00:16:07.720 Even Lawfare blog, that is no friend, that is no friend of the Trump administration, even they had issues.

00:16:15.460 I reported on it yesterday here on the show.

00:16:17.520 They had issues with Mueller doing this.

00:16:20.340 They also had issues with Mueller's entire witness tampering case, saying there's nothing with Mueller's entire witness tampering case against Manafort, saying there's nothing there.

00:16:31.420 That the only conversation Manafort ever had took one minute and 24 seconds, and he was never able to communicate with anybody else.

00:16:39.640 This is flimsy at best.

00:16:41.780 Mueller asking for the phones is an arm twist, it seems to me.

00:16:44.780 I would say, I'll turn something over, but it won't be my phone.

00:16:50.820 Yeah.

00:16:51.640 Yeah.

00:16:53.700 Whatever it is, it ain't going to be something pleasant.

00:16:55.960 It ain't going to be something pleasant.

00:16:57.480 I mean, this is ridiculous, right?

00:16:59.000 Now, what is being a—

00:16:59.620 No, this is—

00:17:00.180 They should be telling you to get a subpoena.

00:17:01.560 These guys are embarrassing themselves.

00:17:03.260 They're embarrassing themselves.

00:17:04.560 Yeah.

00:17:04.820 And if you—

00:17:05.620 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:06.520 Come subpoena my freaking signal.

00:17:09.500 Well, that's my point.

00:17:09.740 Come on.

00:17:10.160 Let's do it.

00:17:10.900 Let's go into court, and you can explain why, you know, you can't get a warrant.

00:17:17.100 Right.

00:17:17.800 Right.

00:17:18.140 What's the warrant going to say?

00:17:19.480 Maybe he said something.

00:17:20.940 Oh, what do you think he said?

00:17:22.020 Well, I don't know.

00:17:22.500 I want to ask you about it.

00:17:23.680 Let's go into the—

00:17:24.500 That's exactly where I want to go.

00:17:26.120 Because it seems to me—

00:17:27.680 Now, I'm not an attorney, but looking at it through the lens of an investigator, it seems to me that's exactly what Mueller's doing.

00:17:33.520 Hey, hey, we think Manafort might have witnessed Hampered.

00:17:38.280 Therefore, we want to get a sneak peek at all of the private encrypted communications of everybody that may be a witness because we want to know if he witnessed Hampered.

00:17:48.240 We have no evidence.

00:17:49.040 We have no evidence to prove it.

00:17:51.300 They don't think he did.

00:17:52.740 They hope he did.

00:17:53.880 That's right.

00:17:54.200 If they thought he did, they would have a reason for thinking so.

00:17:59.900 What they're mad at is, Paul, my suspicion—and it's always possible that maybe he was.

00:18:05.060 Maybe he was, you know, da-da-da-da-da, I want you to lie. 1.00

00:18:08.180 I want you to commit perjury by saying X when Y is true.

00:18:12.160 One of the people—one of the guys he communicated with said they felt that he was trying to support perjury, but that they felt it.

00:18:20.080 There's no actual evidence that Manafort was doing it because the conversation—

00:18:24.520 Okay, so he didn't actually tamper.

00:18:27.080 Right.

00:18:27.660 He didn't actually tamper.

00:18:28.140 So they're saying he didn't actually tamper.

00:18:30.200 Look, there is nothing wrong with a person accused of a crime going to witnesses and saying,

00:18:36.000 hey, do you remember that meeting we had?

00:18:38.360 Right.

00:18:38.560 I said this.

00:18:39.600 You said that.

00:18:40.560 Remember that?

00:18:41.460 Because that's how you prepare a witness.

00:18:43.540 Because witnesses don't always remember things.

00:18:45.980 And a person has a right to talk to the witnesses against them to make sure that they're going to be able to provide the testimony that's needed.

00:18:56.960 Not false testimony.

00:18:58.840 I'm not talking about perjury.

00:19:00.580 I'm saying, look, you know, if I have a witness in a rear-end collision—

00:19:04.920 Right.

00:19:05.700 You know, was the—you know, Mr. Witness, what did you see?

00:19:10.080 Was the light green?

00:19:11.800 No, I think it was yellow.

00:19:13.320 Are you sure it was yellow?

00:19:15.900 I'm not really sure.

00:19:17.280 That's vitally important to a defense.

00:19:20.220 Right.

00:19:20.380 And that's not witness tampering.

00:19:21.120 That's separate.

00:19:22.580 It's not witness tampering.

00:19:23.880 That's talking to a witness.

00:19:25.900 I see the witness tampering.

00:19:28.260 Let me back up.

00:19:29.220 So the way I see it—

00:19:29.920 No, I see a witness tampering from them.

00:19:31.720 From them.

00:19:32.340 That's what I mean.

00:19:33.020 I see them threatening people.

00:19:35.040 I'm going to—

00:19:35.320 Yeah, I'm going to—

00:19:36.220 Trying to terrify them.

00:19:37.440 Yeah, I'm going to freaking—I'm going to charge you with all these crimes if you don't say what I once said.

00:19:42.060 Right.

00:19:42.300 That's the tampering.

00:19:43.940 That's the travesty here.

00:19:45.560 That's disgraceful.

00:19:46.520 And if any good comes out of this, it needs to be an understanding of what the Department of Justice

00:19:52.960 and its associate agencies have devolved into, using the criminal code as a bludgeon to get innocent people to plead guilty to charges that they could fight in court for fear that they will be charged with greater crimes and take the risk of greater punishment.

00:20:16.820 It's a travesty.

00:20:17.920 It's a disgrace.

00:20:18.600 Look, you and I are the hardest core law and order guys there are.

00:20:22.080 My mom was a judge. 0.90

00:20:23.320 She used to do warrants on the kitchen table, right, when I was a kid.

00:20:28.820 When she was a DA, she became a judge after I was out of the house. 0.99

00:20:31.780 But, you know, it's shocking, the abuse of power of these Democrats, because they're all Democrats and all Hillary donors, or most of them are Hillary donors.

00:20:42.420 Right.

00:20:42.500 It's just, if we've learned anything, it's that the power of prosecutors needs to be restrained, not only by a code of ethics, which they seem to have completely abandoned.

00:20:55.580 And that's not me talking, that's the judge in the Ted Stevens case, the judges in the Cliven Bundy case, the judges in a bunch of other cases.

00:21:05.320 And possibly in the Mike Flynn case.

00:21:07.040 And possibly in the Mike Flynn case.

00:21:08.500 But they need to be constrained by a very aggressive inspector general, very aggressive oversight by Congress.

00:21:16.260 And if I were the president, I would be firing people.

00:21:19.400 All right, let's go to the inspector general for a second, because we're seeing some leaks.

00:21:23.760 What concerns me are words like insubordination and defied authority.

00:21:30.180 Seem bad, they'll give Trump cover for Comey's firing, but it doesn't look like Comey will face any more justice than that.

00:21:38.500 Well, look, I want to see what the report says, obviously.

00:21:41.960 I don't trust a lot of these leaks.

00:21:44.160 Yeah.

00:21:44.480 I just don't trust them.

00:21:45.720 Yeah.

00:21:46.020 I think, you know, the only thing I trust is the absence of leaks.

00:21:51.480 Nothing, for instance, there's not been any link of any evidence showing any collusion by Donald Trump or anyone associated with it.

00:21:58.020 That would have leaked.

00:22:00.100 It'd be so out.

00:22:01.500 It'd be out a year ago.

00:22:02.780 Yeah, that's right.

00:22:03.140 So I trust the lack of leaks.

00:22:06.640 We've seen dozens of times that these leaks are presumptively baloney.

00:22:11.040 I want to see what the inspector general says.

00:22:12.900 I want to see what the Utah assistant of the U.S. Attorney says.

00:22:17.040 I want to see what he says.

00:22:18.720 Now, you and I have a lot of...

00:22:19.780 We don't really know what he's doing.

00:22:21.200 Yeah, I mean, the whole thing.

00:22:22.760 Yeah.

00:22:23.400 No, I think this case needs more transparency.

00:22:26.480 I think it needs, well, an attorney general.

00:22:29.100 Yeah, we have our issues with MIA sessions, MIA Jeff.

00:22:33.380 Yeah, and Chris Ray.

00:22:35.200 Yeah, MIA Ray.

00:22:35.520 He doesn't seem very upset about the disaster that he's presiding over.

00:22:38.780 Look, if I was appointed to go in and...

00:22:41.840 In the Army, right, I was always the guy.

00:22:45.060 They go away, you know, Colonel Schlichter, Lieutenant, Captain Schlichter, Major Schlichter, whatever.

00:22:49.680 You go to this unit and fix it.

00:22:51.260 That was my job.

00:22:52.080 And if I was sent over to the FBI, you know, I would make...

00:22:56.520 Everybody would know real clear, really quickly, what the standard of behavior and professionalism is.

00:23:04.740 The FBI's job is not to...

00:23:05.760 As it should.

00:23:06.560 It is not to convict people.

00:23:10.220 It is to build cases against potential criminals.

00:23:17.040 Well, look, I think we're going to find out...

00:23:18.200 Not to create or not to adjudicate them.

00:23:21.080 Well, we're going to find out that Comey did wrong.

00:23:23.220 Now, I do believe that Andrew McCabe will probably be indicted and criminally charged.

00:23:27.260 I don't think there's any way out of it for McCabe.

00:23:28.640 I don't think there is either.

00:23:30.360 And, you know, this doesn't make me happy.

00:23:32.280 Remember, you remember the FBI from Zimbalist Jr. 1.00

00:23:35.000 Oh, God, yeah.

00:23:36.740 Quinn Martin production.

00:23:37.740 Oh, it was cool.

00:23:38.700 Yeah, you wanted to be an FBI agent as a kid.

00:23:40.560 I know, yeah.

00:23:41.240 Silence of the Lambs.

00:23:42.780 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:43.920 They were...

00:23:44.440 I mean, this was the F-freaking beyond.

00:23:47.120 Right.

00:23:47.300 And then you see things like their crime lab is putting people on death row with bad testimony.

00:23:51.880 Yeah.

00:23:52.180 And who's the guy who got fired for that?

00:23:54.660 They've just become unaccountable.

00:23:56.860 Unaccountable.

00:23:57.140 And when you're unaccountable, you stop accounting.

00:24:01.560 And they thought themselves above the law.

00:24:04.440 And it's got to be reined in.

00:24:06.560 The special agents on the street deserve it.

00:24:10.460 The American people deserve it.

00:24:11.880 Well, that's exactly it, right?

00:24:13.100 The American people, those agents deserve it.

00:24:15.620 Hopefully, we'll see some justice done here, Kurt.

00:24:17.540 But I know a lot of people are losing faith, which gears over to media, where we're seeing

00:24:23.080 a different standard also.

00:24:24.360 It's a Zambar fire. 0.99

00:24:26.120 But we're finding out more and more every day about MSNBC's Joanne Reed.

00:24:30.440 This woman is hateful. 1.00

00:24:32.900 Now we're finding out that Joanne Reed essentially threatened to beat up her colleagues when she 0.68

00:24:39.540 was in radio.

00:24:40.220 Well, yeah, I mean, let's assume these charges are true, because, you know, you and I believe

00:24:47.320 that people have a right to defend themselves that should be presumed innocent.

00:24:50.160 So we'll assume these charges are true.

00:24:53.520 This woman's a one-woman reign of terror. 1.00

00:24:56.780 She is a reign of terror, man.

00:24:59.660 So I got to ask, what's the standard?

00:25:02.920 We know what the standard is for Roseanne. 0.78

00:25:04.800 And, you know, ABC was free to do what ABC wanted to do if it didn't want to be, if it

00:25:10.940 didn't want her associated with its brand.

00:25:13.000 That's ABC's choice.

00:25:14.840 But MSNBC is making a choice, too.

00:25:17.340 It's saying, we do want Joy Reed associated with our brand.

00:25:21.320 And I just find that curious.

00:25:23.320 If true.

00:25:24.380 If it's all baloney and she's really a nice lady who got hacked. 1.00

00:25:27.800 But, you know, I don't want to see somebody silenced because they're falsely accused or

00:25:33.420 framed.

00:25:33.920 Yeah, but now we have on the record.

00:25:34.860 But what's the standard?

00:25:35.780 Now we have people on the record.

00:25:37.660 Here, I'll read a couple of these things.

00:25:38.940 And we've got some pretty substantial people on the record from her old job.

00:25:46.040 He said, let's see, here it is from a story by Ryan Saavedra over at Daily Wire.

00:25:52.400 Our friend Ryan.

00:25:53.200 And that was through Fox News.

00:25:56.180 Andrea Eggelshin, I guess that's how you pronounce her name, former lead host of a morning show

00:26:01.400 with Reed, recently spoke out about Reed for the first time more than a decade, saying

00:26:05.540 Reed created, quote, the most toxic work environment I've ever experienced.

00:26:11.060 And, oh, Andre, not Andrea, and threatened him with violence.

00:26:16.220 This guy, it's Eggel, E-G-G-E-L-L-E-T-I-O-N. 0.91

00:26:20.280 So it looks like Eggelshin.

00:26:21.420 She attacked me on a constant basis while I was there. 1.00

00:26:25.820 I was even once threatened with physical violence during a break with her.

00:26:30.240 I mean, this is an on-the-record host, but it gets better.

00:26:33.220 Lee Michaels, then National Program Director for Syndication One,

00:26:37.620 confirmed the incident to Fox News, saying it absolutely happened 100%.

00:26:42.720 That's a quote.

00:26:43.900 So this is no more, this is no more, hey, these were hacks.

00:26:47.620 I don't recall.

00:26:48.140 These are two broadcast professionals on the record saying this happened.

00:26:54.300 Well, now, look, let me put on my defense attorney hat.

00:27:00.700 Firm, clear leaders are often accused of being toxic.

00:27:04.860 I read Ryan's article.

00:27:07.520 I think some of the statements, you know, you and me are going to go at it.

00:27:11.640 I don't know.

00:27:12.100 Does that mean a physical fight?

00:27:13.640 Does that mean, you know, an argument?

00:27:16.340 OK, well, you know, I think it could be taken anyway, and it's probably not an optimal way.

00:27:21.520 There's your best case for her.

00:27:23.140 That is the best case for her.

00:27:24.980 I don't know if that's enough.

00:27:27.460 Even if you and I play devil's advocate all day and say, this could be construed in any way.

00:27:33.640 But it wouldn't be construed.

00:27:35.000 Yeah, it wouldn't be construed if she was conservative.

00:27:37.220 That's right.

00:27:37.900 A, if she was conservative.

00:27:38.880 No one would make the case I just made and that you just gave a fair listening to if she was conservative. 0.82

00:27:46.000 Well, that's that's the point that and you and I have have interacted with hundreds of people in media.

00:27:52.360 There aren't multiple stories like this out there about us, about friends of ours in media.

00:27:58.180 No, you're good friends.

00:27:59.780 Larry O'Connor, Larry O'Connor, big time radio guy in D.C.

00:28:03.220 Who I'm having dinner with tonight.

00:28:04.960 Right.

00:28:05.300 You don't you don't hear stories like I mean, we're not hearing stories like.

00:28:08.640 He may stick me with the check.

00:28:10.460 Oh, you are.

00:28:11.000 Is O'Connor in L.A. or are you in D.C.?

00:28:13.300 Yeah, we're going out tonight.

00:28:14.660 Oh, that'll be a good time.

00:28:15.520 Before I do Shannon Bream show.

00:28:17.720 You were up on doing Fox and Friends at like 2.30 in the morning.

00:28:20.220 I was like 3.30 in the morning.

00:28:23.380 All right.

00:28:23.680 So North Korea, North Korea, because we're going to run out of time soon.

00:28:27.240 Trump is again saying, hey, the meeting's on as long as this guy plays ball.

00:28:30.740 But I'll walk right away if he doesn't.

00:28:32.820 Good.

00:28:33.220 What do you think?

00:28:33.820 I think he said the standard.

00:28:35.380 I love it.

00:28:35.920 I love it.

00:28:36.280 Look, he's being clear.

00:28:38.640 I think it does, too, because I think it's in everybody's interest.

00:28:41.800 A mediation.

00:28:43.080 This is a mediation.

00:28:44.180 I do these all the time for cases, whether it's somebody, you know, semi associates, a

00:28:49.040 smaller one.

00:28:49.560 But if, you know, somebody's been killed or it's a big business dispute with millions

00:28:53.520 of dollars, you sit there and if it's in both your interest to settle the case, you

00:28:58.960 know, and you're and you're within a range, you do it.

00:29:01.880 Right.

00:29:02.080 Are we I think it's in both our interests to get this resolved without hundreds of thousands

00:29:07.260 of people dying.

00:29:08.140 I think it's in Kim's interest to not be killed himself.

00:29:14.520 Right.

00:29:16.420 I think we have a chance for a deal.

00:29:17.960 But I think that the president's playing it the right way, the way I would play.

00:29:21.840 If we're going to have a problem, if you're not if you're not serious, I'm walking.

00:29:26.520 I walk down mediations.

00:29:27.700 Look, I stand up in the middle of a mediation and say, I'm done.

00:29:31.420 This is useless, a waste of time.

00:29:33.200 And then I walk slowly to the door, giving everybody a chance to come put their hand on

00:29:37.760 my shoulder and go, Kurt, can you just give me five minutes?

00:29:40.460 Just go back in the room.

00:29:41.680 Give me five minutes and maybe we can get this back on track.

00:29:44.340 Well, OK.

00:29:46.300 Well, that's exactly right.

00:29:47.140 And that's what he's doing.

00:29:47.960 And he's not a doormat.

00:29:48.900 And they're so used to eight years of a doormat.

00:29:51.220 Yeah.

00:29:51.360 They don't know how to handle a president.

00:29:52.880 He's a guy who understands who his client is.

00:29:55.980 His client's the United States.

00:29:57.280 Obama, that wasn't true.

00:29:59.120 Obama was a citizen of the world.

00:30:01.760 That's right.

00:30:02.240 That's exactly it.

00:30:03.420 Yeah, I didn't go for a citizen of the world.

00:30:05.500 This is a problem, one which I describe in my upcoming book, Militant Normals, which everyone

00:30:11.100 should go get.

00:30:13.880 He knows who his client is.

00:30:16.760 Sometimes you'll have a lawyer in a mediation who's trying to get to a solution where everybody

00:30:23.220 wins.

00:30:23.920 And that's not it.

00:30:26.340 I'm an advocate for my client, not for anyone else's.

00:30:29.240 If we can work some out where everybody else is happy, that's fine.

00:30:32.980 But it's secondary.

00:30:34.580 You nailed it.

00:30:35.200 Trump is representing his client.

00:30:37.980 His client is the American people.

00:30:40.120 Yep.

00:30:41.200 That's it.

00:30:42.280 Outstanding.

00:30:42.760 I love that.

00:30:43.480 I'm actually going to steal that.

00:30:44.640 We're going to have to tweet that out quite a bit later.

00:30:45.960 Steal the hell out of it.

00:30:47.220 As always, a pleasure.

00:30:48.620 You have a great weekend.

00:30:49.400 I will see you next week, my friend.

00:30:50.560 Thank you, John.

00:30:51.680 A really interesting discovery from the NASA Curiosity rover on Mars.

00:31:07.520 And I really don't want to say this.

00:31:08.700 They found new evidence of life on Mars.

00:31:10.860 They announced this yesterday.

00:31:12.520 And let me read you this from USA Today.

00:31:14.400 It's from the NASA press briefing.

00:31:17.620 The building blocks for life have been discovered in 3 billion year old organic matter on Mars,

00:31:24.840 NASA scientists announced Thursday, yesterday.

00:31:27.740 Now, researchers cannot yet say whether the discovery stems from life or a more mundane

00:31:32.800 geological process.

00:31:34.280 They did say, however, that they were, quote, in a really good position to move forward,

00:31:37.840 looking for signs of life.

00:31:40.340 The findings, they say, were also very significant in that they showed organic material can be

00:31:46.400 preserved for billions of years.

00:31:49.260 Now, it was discovered by the Mars Curiosity rover, which has been collecting the data on

00:31:53.060 Mars for six years now.

00:31:55.460 Got up there in 2012.

00:31:57.380 These organic molecules were found in what's called Gale Crater.

00:32:01.160 And it's a was thought to be a shallow lake about the size of Florida's Lake Okeechobee.

00:32:08.460 Now, you've never seen Lake Okeechobee down here in Florida.

00:32:11.040 It looks like an ocean.

00:32:11.920 It's a really big lake.

00:32:15.360 And it's about, oh, Lake Okeechobee is about two hours north of Broward County, where I live,

00:32:20.500 maybe a little bit less, depending on how fast you drive, hour and a half.

00:32:23.940 But this becomes pretty interesting.

00:32:27.100 Now, I'll read this because this kind of stretches my scientific understanding.

00:32:33.380 But apparently, this is organic material that could be indicative of life on Mars as long

00:32:39.180 as three and a half billion years ago.

00:32:41.100 These samples were taken from two different drill sites on an ancient lake bed, and they

00:32:46.220 yielded what they call complex organic molecules that look strikingly similar to the goopy fossilized

00:32:54.300 building blocks of oil and gas on Earth.

00:32:58.940 So it becomes kind of interesting.

00:33:00.800 They also found traces of methane in the Martian atmosphere.

00:33:04.400 And it's significant because methane on Earth, for instance, comes from biological sources.

00:33:11.040 So what they're saying is if there's methane in the atmosphere on Mars, then it was potentially

00:33:14.860 created by something biological potentially living at one point on Mars or possibly still is.

00:33:22.900 Remember, our rovers are only really searching a very small area of this planet.

00:33:29.300 I mean, it's really equivalent to searching a neighborhood in the United States and then

00:33:33.380 saying, well, we found everything there is to find in the United States.

00:33:35.520 It's just not logical.

00:33:38.420 It's like searching a neighborhood in the world and saying we found everything there is to find

00:33:42.440 in the world.

00:33:42.900 Now, NASA's Thomas Zerbukin said, quote, with these new findings, Mars is telling us to stay

00:33:49.980 the course and keep searching for evidence of life.

00:33:53.500 I'm confident that our ongoing and planned missions will unlock even more breathtaking discovery,

00:33:58.400 breathtaking discoveries on the red planet.

00:34:01.480 And what they're saying is that this makes the question of whether or not life ever existed

00:34:07.120 on Mars much more opportune, much more logical and necessary even to study.

00:34:15.820 Now, the nuclear battery powered rover is really a $2.5 billion mobile chemistry lab.

00:34:22.380 And NASA calls it the largest and most capable rover to ever make contact with Mars.

00:34:31.240 Anyway, you slice it, this is fascinating stuff that we live in a time where we can send a

00:34:37.020 remote control vehicle to Mars, collect samples and and start understanding what happened on

00:34:44.900 another planet.

00:34:45.900 Three and a half billion years ago.

00:34:49.680 Anyway, you cut it, it's a really interesting discovery.

00:34:52.680 And it's a place where our space program should be.

00:34:55.860 This is what Americans wanted.

00:34:57.780 We went from moonshots and going to the moon and exploring to low Earth orbit in space shuttles

00:35:04.240 doing experiments.

00:35:05.660 It wasn't exciting.

00:35:07.180 It's not what Americans wanted in their space program.

00:35:09.700 Going to Mars, finding things like this, getting photos, that's exploration.

00:35:14.840 This is what Americans want.

00:35:17.060 I want to see more of it.

00:35:18.200 And I really look forward to the day where they roll that rover over a hill and they see

00:35:23.300 a colony of little green men.

00:35:36.620 Now, I'm a big fan of thoroughbred horse racing.

00:35:39.200 I really enjoy it.

00:35:40.060 I'm not even to bet.

00:35:41.040 I don't bet big.

00:35:42.080 $10 here, $20 there.

00:35:43.560 But I have horses.

00:35:44.560 I've ridden since I was a little kid.

00:35:46.680 And I love the sport.

00:35:48.360 I think the animals are beautiful.

00:35:50.120 The training that goes into it.

00:35:51.480 And it's just a really fun day to be out at the races.

00:35:53.960 I especially love the Triple Crown.

00:35:56.320 And so I'm really excited.

00:35:57.780 This year, we have another Triple Crown contender in Justify.

00:36:01.620 And Justify is a beautiful horse.

00:36:03.940 He's done such an amazing job in the Kentucky Derby.

00:36:06.560 He did in the Preakness.

00:36:07.580 And now going into tomorrow's Belmont Stakes, Justify is the big favorite to win the Triple

00:36:12.980 Crown again.

00:36:13.540 And we haven't had a winner in a few years.

00:36:15.300 And before that, it was 20-something years.

00:36:17.560 Well, imagine my disappointment.

00:36:20.340 I found out who one of Justify's owners are.

00:36:26.120 And if you don't know, it is none other.

00:36:29.000 And this is so disappointing because all I wanted to do was root for Justify to win tomorrow.

00:36:35.100 George Soros is a 15% owner in Justify.

00:36:40.180 I'm reading from a Hill story.

00:36:41.900 Liberal billionaire donor George Soros' company is a part owner of Justify, a Kentucky Derby

00:36:48.240 and Preakness Stakes winner, hoping to win the Belmont Stakes and ultimately the Triple 0.92

00:36:52.700 Crown tomorrow.

00:36:55.740 Justify would become just the 13th Triple Crown winner in history.

00:37:01.720 And the Belmont Stakes is, of course, a Belmont racetrack in New York.

00:37:04.740 Now, I grew up not very far, 10 minutes away from Belmont racetrack.

00:37:08.360 I used to go all the time when I was younger.

00:37:10.880 I really, really enjoyed it.

00:37:12.180 It's an amazing day.

00:37:12.940 And I've been to a Belmont Stakes race, several of them, actually.

00:37:16.280 It's really, really an event you should go to if you haven't.

00:37:19.800 Belmont Stakes, I've been to the Kentucky Derby, the Belmont Stakes and the Preakness

00:37:22.880 all in different years, as well as to Breeders' Cup races.

00:37:26.740 It is really, really, these major horse races are really an event on their own.

00:37:31.520 It's, to me anyway, similar to going to a championship game in any other sport.

00:37:35.580 The New York Times reported that a company controlled by top employees of Soros, Soros Fund

00:37:42.480 Management, owns 15% of Justify.

00:37:45.380 So that softened the blow for me a little bit.

00:37:47.500 It wasn't that Soros himself is a horse racing aficionado and he bought into Justify.

00:37:52.720 It's part of his fund.

00:37:54.000 They own the stake.

00:37:54.900 I understand that because Justify right now is a very valuable commodity.

00:38:00.020 Even if it doesn't win the Belmont Stakes, having won the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness

00:38:04.340 Justify's bloodline is now worth quite a bit of money.

00:38:10.360 The Soros is a longtime investor in racehorse through SF Bloodstock and SF Racing Group operations.

00:38:18.400 The Soros' group does not actually own racing rights to the horse, which it's sold along with

00:38:23.480 the racing rights to third place Kentucky Derby finisher Audible.

00:38:26.560 Quickly after acquiring them, Soros' group hopes to capitalize on what Justify will be worth

00:38:34.000 if he were to win the Belmont Stakes and the Triple Crown.

00:38:38.160 The remainder of his breeding rights, of Justify's breeding rights, are owned by a U.S.-based

00:38:43.080 Windstar Farm and the China Horse Club.

00:38:46.060 And those could net tens of thousands of dollars annually, just the breeding rights, if he were

00:38:52.760 to go on and win the Belmont Stakes.

00:38:54.140 Now, the previous Triple Crown winner, American Pharoah, he won in 2015, three years ago.

00:39:00.280 His fees to date, he won the Triple Crown in 2015.

00:39:05.300 He's racked up $35 million in breeding rights over those three years and other stallion fees

00:39:13.400 since his victory.

00:39:14.220 So in just those three years, he's made his owners about a million dollars a month.

00:39:18.960 So it becomes a very lucrative game, a million dollars a month just to breed him.

00:39:25.380 And listen, upkeep of a racehorse is no small feat.

00:39:29.000 It's expensive.

00:39:29.820 But it ain't a million dollars a month.

00:39:31.720 They're turning a very tidy profit there.

00:39:34.860 And Justify and American Pharoah were both trained by Bob Baffert.

00:39:38.880 He's a very famous trainer.

00:39:40.140 Very, very successful trainer.

00:39:43.040 And he's talking about Bob Baffert gave an interview where he said, quote, we've had

00:39:46.800 a lot of new people getting involved in the business, buying horses.

00:39:50.060 The prices have gone up.

00:39:51.580 Everybody wants quality.

00:39:52.580 You're getting money from all over the world, he says.

00:39:54.640 So it stands to reason that somebody wealthy like Soros would do it.

00:39:57.800 But it is a little disappointing to know that George Soros has an interest in his horse

00:40:03.860 that I truly think can win.

00:40:05.620 The horse has a winning team and his Baffert is a Baffert, Bob Baffert is a trainer.

00:40:10.060 If you don't know horse racing, Bob Baffert as a trainer would be, you know, akin to Joe

00:40:16.620 Torrey as manager of the Yankees or Bill Belichick with the New England Patriots as head coach.

00:40:21.880 He's a very, very winning trainer and his horses are top quality.

00:40:26.280 They win major races.

00:40:27.620 They have for years and years and years.

00:40:29.540 So this really is an A team.

00:40:31.280 It's just unfortunate that 15% of this magnificent horse.

00:40:35.340 So I really do hope to see become a Triple Crown winner tomorrow because the sport means

00:40:39.800 more to me than one guy.

00:40:41.500 But it is a little unfortunate that George Soros has an interest in Justify.

00:40:45.220 Although, like I said, I'm rooting for Justify to win the Belmont Stakes and ultimately the

00:40:50.780 Triple Crown.

00:41:05.340 Though it is a miniature horse Power nghĩa as a player could rival your Baffert.

00:41:09.380 I'll get you by the fortune card.

00:41:12.000 free

00:41:13.140 Here we go.

00:41:13.220 Here we go.

00:41:13.500 Here we go.

00:41:14.340 Here we go.

00:41:15.040 Here we go.

00:41:15.460 Give me a sports horse.

00:41:16.540 Here we go.

00:41:17.420 Here we go.

00:41:17.700 Here we go.

00:41:18.440 Here we come.

00:41:18.960 Here we go.

00:41:19.940 Here we go.

00:41:20.060 Here weerved.

00:41:20.740 Here we go.

00:41:21.380 Here we go.

00:41:22.520 Here you go.

00:41:23.460 Here we go.

00:41:24.220 Here we go.

00:41:25.040 We go.

00:41:26.040 Here we go.

00:41:27.980 Here we go.

00:41:29.280 Here we go.

00:41:29.780 Here I go.

00:41:30.300 Here we go.

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Rebel News Podcast - June 08, 2018

Off The Cuff Declassified： North Korea, Kurt Schlichter, Mars & the Belmont Stakes

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