Rebel News Podcast - Off The Cuff Declassified： OIG Report, Second Amendment issues, Obama aid spills the dirt, CBS fake news？

00:00:00.000 Today on Off the Cuff Declassified, it's Inspector General Report Day,

00:00:03.560 but harsh criticisms and many questions of DOJ still remain.

00:00:07.680 Dr. John Lott joins me to discuss the latest Second Amendment issues.

00:00:11.520 A former Obama staffer blows the lid off what she called 1.00

00:00:14.780 a party culture complete with drugs on Air Force One.

00:00:19.740 And did CBS News get caught red-handed spreading fake news?

00:00:25.060 A tweet by the White House press secretary seems to say yes.

00:00:30.000 A big day today.

00:00:35.600 In addition to being President Trump's birthday, happy birthday, Mr. President,

00:00:39.800 even bigger news is that Inspector General Michael Horowitz,

00:00:43.720 Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz's long-awaited report

00:00:48.060 will be in our hands today.

00:00:50.120 We'll be able to read it.

00:00:50.960 It's going to be hundreds of pages.

00:00:52.820 And this is something I'm going to be covering very, very much in depth

00:00:56.900 over the next days, probably weeks to come.

00:00:59.120 The report is expected to be, like I said, hundreds of pages.

00:01:02.660 But I want to today discuss what's most likely in the report,

00:01:09.520 as well as big problems conservatives seem to have with the Department of Justice.

00:01:14.940 Now, the report, of course, was looking into and is expected to slam

00:01:19.240 the Department of Justice's handling, most notably the FBI's,

00:01:22.480 specifically James Comey's lead in the handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation.

00:01:28.600 Of course, Hillary having a private server and mishandling classified emails. 1.00

00:01:33.380 Well, conservatives and credit where due, even some Democrats who were logical

00:01:38.140 and not hyper-partisan to the point of being delusional,

00:01:42.380 were very uncomfortable that a sitting Secretary of State,

00:01:45.000 now a Secretary of State has security clearances pretty much equivalent to that

00:01:49.980 of the President of the United States, the Secretary of Defense,

00:01:52.300 the head of the CIA, the head of the NSA.

00:01:54.740 The State Department works very, very closely with the Oval Office,

00:01:59.600 with the intelligence community.

00:02:01.280 It's important to note that, to understand just how sensitive

00:02:06.240 the intelligence was that Hillary Clinton had access.

00:02:11.660 It's critical to understand that, to understand why so many,

00:02:15.040 so many of us who analyze this, who understand this, so many conservatives,

00:02:19.260 and so many of you who have become very well-educated on this,

00:02:23.480 why you're so infuriated with what went on there,

00:02:27.680 with Hillary Clinton not being prosecuted,

00:02:29.980 with Huma Abedin not being prosecuted,

00:02:32.380 with Cheryl Mills not being prosecuted,

00:02:34.760 with everybody around Hillary, 0.81

00:02:36.600 essentially skating on things that there are many,

00:02:39.780 many people sitting in federal prison for doing,

00:02:44.580 most notably that sailor that President Trump recently pardoned.

00:02:48.400 All that guy did was take photos of a submarine

00:02:51.740 that were deemed classified to show his family,

00:02:53.740 I think his girlfriend or his wife.

00:02:55.380 Hey, here's where I work.

00:02:56.640 And then he's going to delete them.

00:02:57.880 He was criminally convicted.

00:03:01.060 Yet what Hillary Clinton did was just far more egregious. 1.00

00:03:07.200 I had a very close friend, a very senior CIA officer,

00:03:11.660 now works with another agency in the Department of Defense.

00:03:15.320 And I asked him, compare what that sailor did to what Hillary Clinton did. 1.00

00:03:19.420 And he said what the sailor did was PG-13.

00:03:22.580 Comparatively, what Hillary Clinton did was triple X-rated. 1.00

00:03:27.480 That's the difference.

00:03:28.600 He said that's really the only way I can describe this

00:03:31.460 if you want to understand the sensitivity of what the sailor did

00:03:37.440 as compared to the sensitivity of the information

00:03:39.920 that Hillary Clinton mishandled.

00:03:42.160 So to a person, anyone who worked inside the process,

00:03:46.180 who understands these prosecutions and how all this works,

00:03:49.920 well, they knew, they were more than convinced

00:03:53.740 that Hillary Clinton should have been criminally prosecuted,

00:03:56.620 as should have everyone who worked around her

00:03:59.700 that was part and parcel to the mishandling of the classified info.

00:04:03.160 So that's what the Inspector General report is looking into.

00:04:06.820 Why James Comey handled this investigation

00:04:10.400 in an unprecedented and extraordinary way,

00:04:14.860 not for the good, for the worse.

00:04:17.120 That's what they were looking into.

00:04:19.200 So here's a story in NPR,

00:04:20.400 and it says the probe by Inspector General Michael Horowitz

00:04:24.480 is expected to fault former FBI Director James Comey

00:04:28.140 for violating longstanding department guidelines

00:04:31.500 and mishandling the Hillary Clinton email investigation.

00:04:35.480 Now, the report is also supposed to slam people

00:04:38.700 like Peter Stroke and Lisa Page.

00:04:42.480 Andrew McCabe has already been criminally referred over to DOJ.

00:04:48.540 They expect more to come.

00:04:50.440 With that, McCabe's lawyer has confirmed

00:04:53.900 that McCabe has been criminally referred

00:04:56.080 and that prosecutors might even now consider

00:05:00.940 more criminal charges against Andrew McCabe.

00:05:04.140 McCabe is fighting back by suing the Department of Justice,

00:05:06.620 saying he wasn't afforded due process to fight his firing.

00:05:12.000 Now, McCabe, you've seen the lawsuits

00:05:13.320 that Andrew McCabe is involved in the lawsuit,

00:05:15.120 and many people are confusing that.

00:05:17.040 They think he's already fighting his criminal charges.

00:05:18.820 No, that process hasn't even begun.

00:05:21.320 He's been referred, but he hasn't been formally charged yet.

00:05:25.020 What McCabe is suing, McCabe is suing about his job,

00:05:28.280 about being fired by the FBI,

00:05:29.840 what he's essentially saying is,

00:05:31.700 I was never given a chance to look at the information

00:05:34.860 against me so that I could have appealed my firing

00:05:39.020 in an administrative proceeding.

00:05:41.340 But I spoke to people inside the FBI,

00:05:45.680 and they told me the FBI doesn't have really

00:05:48.980 an administrative appeals process.

00:05:50.660 When you're at the level of McCabe, really any agent,

00:05:53.500 the attorney general, the deputy attorney general

00:05:55.820 can pretty much fire you for any cause.

00:05:58.900 And what they told me was the inspector general

00:06:02.000 submitting a report to the powers that be

00:06:05.940 at the Department of Justice saying that Andrew McCabe,

00:06:08.720 an FBI special agent and deputy director of the FBI,

00:06:12.440 lying to federal investigators three times under oath

00:06:15.080 was more than sufficient cause.

00:06:18.180 In fact, they said it necessitated his firing.

00:06:21.200 It had to be done.

00:06:22.280 So they felt, as did a couple of legal experts

00:06:26.340 in employment law, federal employment law,

00:06:29.420 all felt that McCabe doesn't have a legal leg to stand on.

00:06:32.360 But we'll see.

00:06:33.020 The courts have been doing weird things

00:06:34.380 because when the inspector general released

00:06:37.000 that earlier statement that McCabe lied to them

00:06:40.220 under oath three times,

00:06:41.340 they pretty much took the wind out of any lawsuit sales

00:06:44.480 Andrew McCabe might have.

00:06:46.300 Again, if the deputy director of the FBI

00:06:47.780 was putting people in jail for lying

00:06:49.840 to federal investigators under oath,

00:06:51.760 lying to federal investigators under oath,

00:06:54.160 and they all felt that it was the most cut and dry case

00:06:58.620 they'd ever seen of a justifiable firing at the FBI.

00:07:01.800 So too for Comey, because of his mishandling of the case,

00:07:05.340 because of Rod Rosenstein's memo,

00:07:07.020 and now because of what's expected to come

00:07:09.380 from this OIG report, Comey, of course,

00:07:11.360 has already been criminally referred to DOJ

00:07:13.960 by members of Congress as well,

00:07:15.940 specifically members of the Freedom Caucus

00:07:17.960 and the House Intelligence Committee.

00:07:19.900 We're going to get into many, many problems

00:07:21.540 the House Intelligence Committee is having

00:07:23.860 with the DOJ in just a bit.

00:07:25.800 So we know what the report is about.

00:07:28.400 We've heard all the names, Peter Stroke, Lisa Page,

00:07:30.540 Andrew McCabe, James Comey, the list goes on.

00:07:33.900 Now, Jeff Sessions, who has been very, very quiet,

00:07:36.120 and I think that it is long past time

00:07:37.680 for a new attorney general.

00:07:39.220 I think Jeff Sessions is weak.

00:07:40.920 He's ineffective.

00:07:42.040 I think he has become subordinate to Rod Rosenstein.

00:07:46.660 Jeff Sessions has apparently surrendered

00:07:49.940 the Department of Justice, and that is a,

00:07:53.100 well, that's a tragic, tragic thing.

00:07:55.100 Now, Jeff Sessions, though, did speak up on the OIG report.

00:08:02.440 It reads encouragingly, but let me tell you my problem.

00:08:06.380 Now, he did an interview with The Hill,

00:08:08.860 and Jeff Sessions said that Comey made, quote,

00:08:13.560 a big mistake that belied a serious breach of discipline.

00:08:19.480 Sessions also made it clear, I'm reading from The Hill,

00:08:21.640 that he is open to firing more employees

00:08:24.980 if the Justice Department Inspector General's

00:08:27.100 soon-to-be-released report, well, coming today,

00:08:29.500 warrants it.

00:08:31.020 Now, Sessions says, quote, said, quote,

00:08:33.940 I think it will be a lengthy report and a careful report.

00:08:38.080 I think it will help us better fix any problems that we have

00:08:41.500 and reassure the American people that some of the concerns

00:08:45.280 that have been raised are not true.

00:08:50.080 If anyone else shows up in this report

00:08:52.820 to have done something that requires termination,

00:08:54.960 we will do so.

00:08:56.340 Now, that, to me, reads like a whitewash.

00:09:01.660 That reads like a whitewash.

00:09:04.900 Reassure the American people that some of the concerns

00:09:08.080 that have been raised are not true.

00:09:10.560 If this report does not excoriate,

00:09:16.120 eviscerate Loretta Lynch, 1.00

00:09:18.780 the then Attorney General,

00:09:20.240 for a private meeting on a private jet

00:09:23.200 with Bill Clinton, her former boss,

00:09:27.400 who just happened to be a president,

00:09:29.320 but more importantly for that meeting,

00:09:31.400 was the husband of a suspect

00:09:33.580 under criminal investigation by Lynch's DOJ.

00:09:37.020 If she's not excoriated,

00:09:39.740 if her disbarment isn't recommended in this report,

00:09:43.840 then this report is whitewashed,

00:09:45.600 which many conservatives feel

00:09:47.120 because the report has been held back.

00:09:49.920 The report has been held back,

00:09:52.280 and many people, including myself,

00:09:54.960 feel that it has been held back

00:09:56.980 to be redacted and sanitized.

00:09:59.980 Now, the House Intelligence Committee

00:10:03.700 has been requesting additional documents

00:10:06.920 from the Department of Justice,

00:10:10.080 most notably Rod Rosenstein.

00:10:12.320 Rod Rosenstein has repeatedly blocked

00:10:14.880 the Department of Justice.

00:10:16.360 He's been very uncooperative.

00:10:18.940 Many of us, self-included,

00:10:20.620 feel that Rosenstein

00:10:21.700 either has some kind of intimidation control

00:10:27.620 over Jeff Sessions,

00:10:28.580 or is just younger and more energetic,

00:10:30.540 but it always seems to be

00:10:32.380 that whenever enough evidence pops up

00:10:34.840 for Rosenstein to be removed from his position,

00:10:38.800 his good buddy Robert Mueller leaks something

00:10:41.540 that disables the White House from taking action.

00:10:45.240 It seems to many that Rosenstein and Mueller

00:10:48.460 have taken control of FBI,

00:10:50.080 that Jeff Sessions, of DOJ,

00:10:51.940 that Jeff Sessions is very weak,

00:10:53.460 and he's subordinate to them now,

00:10:55.580 and it's a terrible, terrible thing

00:10:57.400 for the United States.

00:10:58.120 Now, those comments of Sessions,

00:11:01.640 we're going to reassure you

00:11:03.280 that nothing else went on.

00:11:04.460 I feel that what this report's going to do

00:11:06.000 is disappoint many of us beyond belief.

00:11:08.760 We're going to have a couple of people fired,

00:11:10.560 justify Comey's firing.

00:11:12.200 Nobody's going to be prosecuted,

00:11:13.500 and it's going to say,

00:11:14.040 nobody else did anything wrong,

00:11:15.280 let's put the matter to bed,

00:11:16.420 because I believe that's what Sessions

00:11:18.480 and Rosenstein want.

00:11:20.340 But guys like Devin Nunez over in the House

00:11:24.000 aren't laying down on this.

00:11:26.460 Now, you remember there were reports

00:11:30.060 of a closed-door meeting back in January

00:11:32.000 between members of the House Intel Committee,

00:11:34.320 most notably the chairman Devin Nunez

00:11:36.200 and Rod Rosenstein,

00:11:37.920 in which Nunez alleges that Rosenstein

00:11:41.600 threatened the committee and its staffers

00:11:44.400 with investigation,

00:11:45.920 subpoenas, et cetera,

00:11:47.580 if they kept pressing.

00:11:49.460 Well, the committee did its job,

00:11:52.040 its oversight job of DOJ and others,

00:11:54.200 and it kept pressing.

00:11:56.560 So, one staffer,

00:11:58.760 now staffers are coming out.

00:11:59.960 Let me read you a tweet

00:12:00.840 from Representative Matt Gaetz,

00:12:02.440 a Florida congressman,

00:12:03.580 on the Intel Committee,

00:12:04.860 somebody who has been very, very vocal

00:12:06.700 in demanding documents from DOJ,

00:12:09.640 in wanting to know what's really going on here,

00:12:11.840 not wanting to just read

00:12:13.680 this potentially whitewashed OIG report.

00:12:16.660 Representative Gaetz tweeted yesterday,

00:12:18.200 The DOJ's intimidation

00:12:20.840 and stonewalling tactics

00:12:22.080 have gone too far.

00:12:24.780 I've heard firsthand

00:12:25.660 from congressional staff

00:12:27.000 following threats

00:12:28.020 delivered by Deputy A.G. Rosenstein.

00:12:31.320 Staff has literally been scared

00:12:33.400 to the point of physically shaking

00:12:36.680 in my office

00:12:38.960 out of concern for their family.

00:12:42.800 That is unacceptable.

00:12:46.440 Well, Fox News ran a story yesterday.

00:12:49.180 GOP polls,

00:12:50.180 polls, politicians,

00:12:51.160 slam Rosenstein,

00:12:52.500 say staff shaking in fear

00:12:54.360 over threats.

00:12:56.660 And, of course,

00:12:58.060 referring to the text,

00:12:59.000 the tweet I just read you

00:12:59.960 from Representative Matt Gaetz

00:13:01.080 of Florida.

00:13:02.500 One staffer said Rosenstein

00:13:04.500 launched a, quote,

00:13:05.660 sustained personal attack

00:13:07.720 against a congressional staffer

00:13:09.620 in retaliation

00:13:11.120 for vigorous oversight

00:13:12.680 and called the threats,

00:13:14.360 quote,

00:13:14.960 downright shilling.

00:13:16.840 The DOJ and FBI,

00:13:17.960 of course,

00:13:18.220 have disputed

00:13:18.720 the characterizations

00:13:19.400 of the meeting

00:13:19.940 with the DOJ official

00:13:21.120 telling Fox News

00:13:22.540 that officials in the room

00:13:23.980 described the characterization

00:13:25.560 of events as false.

00:13:27.660 Further,

00:13:28.820 the official said

00:13:29.900 that when Rosenstein

00:13:31.380 returns to the United States

00:13:32.780 from a work trip,

00:13:34.100 quote,

00:13:35.180 he will request

00:13:36.320 that the House General Counsel

00:13:38.680 conduct an internal investigation

00:13:41.280 of these

00:13:42.660 congressional staffers' conduct.

00:13:45.900 Now,

00:13:46.960 Jeff Sessions,

00:13:47.880 who many of us

00:13:48.620 do not trust,

00:13:50.580 backed Rod Rosenstein.

00:13:52.860 But I don't see

00:13:54.260 any reason,

00:13:55.800 any reason

00:13:56.900 for congressional staffers

00:13:58.920 who don't make

00:14:00.700 a lot of money,

00:14:01.560 who have to exist in D.C.,

00:14:03.680 who have to go on to work

00:14:05.380 in other agencies.

00:14:06.760 I don't see any reason

00:14:08.320 for them to lie.

00:14:09.800 In contrast,

00:14:11.040 I look at today's

00:14:11.960 Department of Justice.

00:14:14.040 Mueller keeps getting

00:14:15.180 admonished by judges

00:14:16.380 for playing fast and loose

00:14:17.900 with exculpatory evidence.

00:14:19.960 Rosenstein,

00:14:20.520 who appointed him,

00:14:21.740 being accused

00:14:22.400 of threatening

00:14:22.860 congressional staffers.

00:14:24.860 Historically

00:14:25.380 unprecedented move

00:14:26.840 of the FBI

00:14:27.920 number one

00:14:28.560 and number two

00:14:29.100 being fired

00:14:29.780 and potentially

00:14:30.340 criminally referred.

00:14:32.140 You don't see

00:14:32.840 any of these scandals

00:14:33.540 in the House Intel Committee.

00:14:35.100 You don't see

00:14:35.580 any of these allegations

00:14:36.420 leveled at the

00:14:37.500 committee staffers.

00:14:39.140 No.

00:14:40.240 The credibility

00:14:41.000 lies with

00:14:42.240 these committee staffers,

00:14:43.480 not with

00:14:44.400 the Department of Justice

00:14:45.600 and the FBI,

00:14:46.440 not with

00:14:47.240 Jeff Sessions,

00:14:48.440 Rod Rosenstein,

00:14:49.180 Robert Mueller,

00:14:49.680 and company.

00:14:50.540 Not at all.

00:14:53.280 Now,

00:14:54.420 Sessions

00:14:54.800 said, quote,

00:14:56.280 in defending Rosenstein,

00:14:57.360 I'm confident

00:14:58.600 that Deputy Rosenstein,

00:15:00.140 28 years

00:15:00.800 in the Department

00:15:01.300 of Justice,

00:15:02.320 did not improperly

00:15:03.780 threaten anyone

00:15:04.640 on that occasion,

00:15:05.320 but we do believe

00:15:06.180 that we have tried

00:15:06.800 to be cooperative

00:15:07.380 with them

00:15:07.760 and made progress.

00:15:09.080 In fact,

00:15:09.620 have had some good

00:15:10.240 relationship

00:15:10.760 with top members

00:15:11.420 of Congress.

00:15:12.660 But,

00:15:13.740 again,

00:15:14.360 reading from Fox News,

00:15:15.840 Representative Jim Jordan

00:15:17.120 of Ohio

00:15:17.840 said he was

00:15:19.360 flabbergasted

00:15:20.580 by Sessions' comments.

00:15:22.700 He said, quote,

00:15:23.680 I mean,

00:15:24.140 what is the Attorney

00:15:24.960 General saying?

00:15:26.580 He said,

00:15:27.720 and today we learned

00:15:28.580 in Catherine's report,

00:15:29.920 meaning Catherine Herridge

00:15:30.700 of Fox News,

00:15:32.140 that Rod Rosenstein

00:15:33.480 was threatening

00:15:34.220 members of the

00:15:36.160 House Intelligence Committee

00:15:37.060 for doing their job,

00:15:38.620 for trying to get answers

00:15:39.680 for the American people

00:15:40.720 and the Attorney General

00:15:41.620 says,

00:15:42.140 that's okay,

00:15:43.340 we're doing just fine.

00:15:46.140 Representative Mark Meadows,

00:15:48.300 Representative Mark Meadows

00:15:49.260 jumped in,

00:15:49.740 he says,

00:15:50.140 he doesn't know

00:15:50.520 what Sessions

00:15:50.820 is talking about.

00:15:52.700 And he went on

00:15:53.540 to say that Sessions

00:15:54.180 doesn't know

00:15:54.880 what he's talking

00:15:55.380 about himself.

00:15:57.060 This is,

00:15:57.740 this is beyond bad.

00:16:01.040 Jeff Sessions

00:16:01.620 needs to go.

00:16:03.760 And when you see

00:16:04.900 the accusations

00:16:06.980 by Chairman Nunez

00:16:09.360 for the FBI,

00:16:11.480 accusations of

00:16:12.000 obstruction of justice,

00:16:13.460 they're pretty clear cut.

00:16:14.920 Congress is saying

00:16:15.680 we need these documents,

00:16:16.680 we're entitled

00:16:17.060 to these documents,

00:16:17.780 we're clear to see

00:16:18.340 these documents,

00:16:19.320 the deadline is

00:16:20.300 this day and this time,

00:16:21.520 and DOJ basically says,

00:16:23.460 go to hell, 0.99

00:16:24.880 you're not getting them.

00:16:26.580 That's obstruction

00:16:27.580 of justice.

00:16:29.500 Now,

00:16:30.020 Chairman Nunez,

00:16:32.060 this is from

00:16:32.460 the Daily Signal,

00:16:34.340 is accusing in a letter

00:16:35.400 the agency

00:16:36.180 of obstruction

00:16:36.760 of justice

00:16:37.320 and using,

00:16:37.980 quote,

00:16:38.040 an array of tactics

00:16:39.400 to withhold

00:16:40.520 the documents.

00:16:41.760 He writes,

00:16:43.700 DOJ continues to

00:16:44.960 obfuscate and delay

00:16:45.780 its production

00:16:46.360 using an array

00:16:47.020 of tactics

00:16:47.600 such as

00:16:48.360 incorrectly

00:16:49.020 categorizing

00:16:50.000 the requested

00:16:50.580 documents

00:16:51.240 of Gang of Eight

00:16:52.660 level material

00:16:53.840 in order to limit access.

00:16:55.440 Of course,

00:16:55.620 the Gang of Eight

00:16:56.020 being the bipartisan

00:16:56.760 group of eight

00:16:58.260 House members,

00:16:59.620 members of Congress.

00:17:01.620 Such Congress

00:17:02.600 by DOJ

00:17:03.280 is unacceptable

00:17:03.820 because the Gang of Eight

00:17:04.840 is a legal fiction

00:17:05.980 that is no basis

00:17:07.840 outside of the confines

00:17:09.420 of presidential approval

00:17:11.300 and reporting

00:17:11.900 of covert action.

00:17:13.760 Gang of Eight

00:17:14.120 is the leaders

00:17:15.080 of the Republican

00:17:16.080 and Democratic leaders

00:17:16.780 of the House

00:17:17.180 and Senate

00:17:17.680 intelligence committees

00:17:19.220 as well as

00:17:20.100 Paul Ryan

00:17:20.620 and Nancy Pelosi.

00:17:22.400 And those are the eight.

00:17:25.560 But they're just a,

00:17:27.140 they're a

00:17:27.980 congressionally created group.

00:17:31.620 They don't have any

00:17:31.940 legally binding authority.

00:17:33.940 The House Intel Committee,

00:17:35.840 the Senate Intel Committee

00:17:37.380 are the binding authorities.

00:17:38.660 They should be getting

00:17:40.300 this information.

00:17:41.720 And then to prove

00:17:44.000 that Rosenstein,

00:17:45.360 Rosenstein,

00:17:45.920 in his attempt to prove

00:17:46.620 that he didn't threaten

00:17:47.260 House members,

00:17:47.900 well, he's asked

00:17:49.200 the House General Counsel

00:17:51.440 to investigate

00:17:52.540 committee staff.

00:17:54.000 This is very,

00:17:55.680 very, very troubling.

00:17:58.000 Very, very troubling.

00:17:59.600 And I am going to read

00:18:01.760 this report in depth,

00:18:03.060 but right now

00:18:04.040 I don't have

00:18:05.120 any confidence

00:18:06.300 evidence that this report

00:18:07.680 is going to tell us

00:18:09.500 what really happened.

00:18:10.640 Right now,

00:18:11.420 I and many others

00:18:12.260 find this report

00:18:13.680 to be a whitewash.

00:18:16.040 To be a whitewash.

00:18:17.360 And I feel that

00:18:18.420 the report was delayed.

00:18:19.860 That the concerns

00:18:20.800 of Jim Jordan

00:18:22.020 and Mark Meadows

00:18:23.060 and Devin Nunez,

00:18:23.940 those conservative congressmen

00:18:25.060 who have been

00:18:25.640 all over DOJ and FBI

00:18:27.000 about what we're calling

00:18:27.820 Obamagate or Spygate,

00:18:29.640 I think their concerns,

00:18:30.940 Representative Matt Gaetz,

00:18:32.320 are very,

00:18:32.880 very, very well founded.

00:18:35.080 It is long past time

00:18:36.900 for President Donald Trump

00:18:38.900 to now step in.

00:18:40.520 We need a...

00:18:41.640 Every day,

00:18:51.040 it seems like the left

00:18:51.900 is pushing more

00:18:52.720 mass hysteria

00:18:53.920 using terms like

00:18:55.900 mass shooting,

00:18:57.040 assault weapon.

00:18:57.720 And many of us

00:18:58.400 on the right,

00:18:59.300 many of us

00:18:59.700 who are pro-Second Amendment

00:19:00.580 try to debunk these.

00:19:01.680 But few people do it better

00:19:02.680 than my next guest,

00:19:04.160 someone you've seen

00:19:04.680 on the program

00:19:05.200 many, many times,

00:19:06.260 Dr. John Lott.

00:19:07.900 Dr. Lott, of course,

00:19:08.840 runs the Crime Prevention

00:19:09.640 Research Center.

00:19:10.460 He's one of the most

00:19:10.980 preeminent researchers

00:19:12.280 and strategists, really,

00:19:14.860 on gun crime

00:19:15.720 in the United States.

00:19:16.640 Today, Dr. Lott joins me now.

00:19:18.220 John, great to see you.

00:19:19.560 Good to talk to you again.

00:19:20.880 Always a pleasure.

00:19:21.760 So you have some new data

00:19:23.400 on the site,

00:19:24.140 on the Crime Prevention

00:19:24.880 Research Center site.

00:19:26.280 I encourage the audience,

00:19:27.280 if you have not been

00:19:28.780 to Dr. Lott's site,

00:19:30.140 it's www.crimeresearch.org.

00:19:33.800 It is literally

00:19:34.860 a wealth of information.

00:19:36.100 It's my go-to resource

00:19:37.360 for all things

00:19:38.800 Second Amendment

00:19:39.320 when I bring you

00:19:39.860 those segments on the show.

00:19:41.040 So very interesting data.

00:19:43.020 The title of this piece

00:19:44.620 is updated.

00:19:45.680 Mass published shootings

00:19:47.180 keep occurring

00:19:48.100 in gun-free zones.

00:19:50.720 97.8% of these attacks

00:19:54.020 have been in gun-free zones

00:19:55.740 since 1950.

00:19:57.220 And this is relatively

00:19:57.940 recent data.

00:19:59.460 This is from

00:20:00.380 the end of May, really.

00:20:02.700 So, Dr. Lott,

00:20:04.320 let's first explain

00:20:06.200 what is a gun,

00:20:08.280 what is a mass shooting?

00:20:09.760 How does the FBI

00:20:10.520 or the criminological community

00:20:12.500 define a mass shooting?

00:20:15.540 Well, for about 30 years,

00:20:18.880 the traditional definition

00:20:20.300 for the FBI was

00:20:21.700 four more people killed

00:20:23.820 in a public place,

00:20:25.040 not involving some gang fight

00:20:27.980 or some other crime

00:20:29.900 like a robbery,

00:20:31.180 to try to get at

00:20:32.340 those types of cases

00:20:33.580 that rivet us on the news,

00:20:36.420 you know,

00:20:36.740 a school shooting

00:20:37.620 or a shooting in a mall

00:20:39.340 or a movie theater,

00:20:40.700 where the point of the attack

00:20:42.100 is to try to go and kill 0.74

00:20:43.560 as many people as possible.

00:20:46.380 Now, there's a difference

00:20:47.480 between a mass shooting

00:20:48.880 and a mass public shooting,

00:20:50.220 and mass shooting

00:20:51.980 may involve

00:20:52.820 a shooting inside a home,

00:20:54.780 may involve gang fights.

00:20:56.800 In fact,

00:20:57.140 the vast majority of them are.

00:20:59.660 And those are important.

00:21:01.100 Gang shootings, 0.97

00:21:02.640 no one tries to minimize those.

00:21:04.860 But the causes

00:21:05.720 and solutions

00:21:06.780 for gang fights

00:21:09.620 are a lot different

00:21:11.020 than the causes

00:21:11.780 and solutions

00:21:12.960 for why you have

00:21:14.660 these mass public shootings

00:21:15.900 where somebody

00:21:16.580 goes into a school

00:21:18.100 or a church

00:21:19.360 or some place

00:21:20.460 and just trying

00:21:21.020 to kill people. 0.70

00:21:22.340 Right.

00:21:22.800 And I'm glad

00:21:23.780 you brought that up

00:21:24.380 because we had

00:21:24.640 a very tragic incident,

00:21:25.640 I think you saw it,

00:21:26.320 down here in Florida

00:21:27.060 in Orlando

00:21:27.600 a few days back,

00:21:28.540 a guy,

00:21:29.460 four little children hostage,

00:21:31.000 killed them, 0.87

00:21:31.600 killed himself

00:21:32.200 after it was almost

00:21:33.880 a 24-hour standoff

00:21:34.940 with police.

00:21:35.420 So that would be

00:21:35.820 considered a mass shooting,

00:21:36.900 obviously not a mass

00:21:37.640 public shooting.

00:21:38.840 Which data set

00:21:39.780 would that be included in?

00:21:44.360 Well,

00:21:45.000 where did it occur?

00:21:46.440 Did it occur in a home?

00:21:47.480 It occurred in an apartment

00:21:49.580 in Orlando, Florida, yeah.

00:21:51.960 Well,

00:21:52.400 then it would have been

00:21:52.960 included as a mass shooting

00:21:54.320 as opposed to

00:21:55.080 a mass public shooting.

00:21:56.300 Right, right.

00:21:57.060 So those are defined

00:21:58.180 differently.

00:21:58.680 Now,

00:21:59.160 within Dr. Lotz's report,

00:22:00.780 there is a spreadsheet

00:22:01.780 and I have the spreadsheet open.

00:22:03.520 I really encourage

00:22:04.560 everyone in the audience

00:22:05.360 to go to

00:22:06.180 crimeresearch.org

00:22:07.120 and look up this study

00:22:07.800 because you

00:22:08.460 and you essentially

00:22:10.640 listed

00:22:11.680 every mass public shooting

00:22:14.360 from 1998

00:22:16.080 through April 30th,

00:22:17.900 2018.

00:22:18.680 This is hyper-recent

00:22:19.680 data.

00:22:20.920 You break down

00:22:21.580 the year of the state,

00:22:24.080 the city,

00:22:24.940 the locality,

00:22:26.080 the perpetrator,

00:22:27.460 total people killed,

00:22:28.700 whether or not

00:22:29.160 it was a gun-free zone.

00:22:30.220 So this is indisputable

00:22:31.300 research.

00:22:32.100 This is black and white.

00:22:33.540 This is not anecdotal.

00:22:35.600 You have literally

00:22:36.740 how many incidents

00:22:37.600 listed here?

00:22:38.140 There are

00:22:40.100 66 incidents listed

00:22:43.380 and your conclusion

00:22:45.120 is that

00:22:45.400 97.8% of these

00:22:48.580 are occurring

00:22:49.780 in gun-free zones.

00:22:51.900 Well,

00:22:52.400 those are just part of

00:22:53.280 the 97.8%

00:22:55.180 goes back to 1950.

00:22:57.140 Right.

00:22:57.500 But

00:22:57.660 did this data set

00:23:00.180 comport

00:23:00.940 with the overall number?

00:23:02.880 Yeah,

00:23:03.500 it's pretty close.

00:23:04.400 Wow.

00:23:04.920 Wow.

00:23:06.060 So

00:23:06.320 what is

00:23:07.660 is this

00:23:09.240 conclusive proof

00:23:10.020 in your opinion?

00:23:11.380 You've probably

00:23:12.380 done more research

00:23:13.140 on this than anyone.

00:23:14.680 I don't want to use

00:23:15.480 platitudes or hyperbole

00:23:17.060 like gun-free zones

00:23:17.940 killed,

00:23:18.960 but wouldn't you argue

00:23:19.980 that this is

00:23:20.420 conclusive proof

00:23:21.360 that a bad guy

00:23:22.440 wants a soft target,

00:23:24.860 that a bad guy

00:23:25.720 is less inclined

00:23:26.460 to attack

00:23:27.100 an armed hard target?

00:23:29.640 Well,

00:23:29.820 it's part of the evidence.

00:23:31.940 You have other types

00:23:33.080 of evidence, too.

00:23:34.260 I mean,

00:23:34.460 one is

00:23:35.200 just the statements

00:23:36.420 from these killers.

00:23:37.660 When we do

00:23:39.880 find diaries

00:23:40.860 or other statements

00:23:42.100 that they've made

00:23:42.740 to people

00:23:43.640 where they've explained

00:23:45.340 why they go

00:23:46.180 and pick the targets

00:23:47.080 that they do,

00:23:48.480 and, you know,

00:23:49.540 these guys

00:23:50.040 may be crazy

00:23:51.120 in some sense,

00:23:51.880 but they're not stupid.

00:23:52.880 They try to go

00:23:53.740 to those places

00:23:54.760 where they know

00:23:56.360 victims aren't going 0.96

00:23:57.960 to be able

00:23:58.280 to go and defend

00:23:58.920 themselves.

00:23:59.500 and you see

00:24:01.760 cases where

00:24:03.180 even if there are

00:24:04.160 police at a place

00:24:05.680 who are in uniform,

00:24:06.720 the police

00:24:07.280 are the first people

00:24:08.620 who are killed.

00:24:09.780 Right.

00:24:09.920 But you also see it

00:24:11.580 to the extent

00:24:12.760 that these mass shootings

00:24:14.920 do occur,

00:24:15.780 how overwhelmingly,

00:24:17.280 time after time,

00:24:19.120 these killers

00:24:19.880 pick those tiny areas

00:24:21.640 in these right-to-carry states

00:24:23.220 where people aren't allowed

00:24:24.660 to go and defend themselves.

00:24:25.880 So, I mean,

00:24:26.940 you may have,

00:24:28.100 you live in Florida,

00:24:29.580 and you can carry

00:24:31.180 your permanent concealed

00:24:32.100 handgun, you know,

00:24:33.480 pretty much everywhere.

00:24:35.160 You know,

00:24:35.480 there's a few places

00:24:36.500 that you're not allowed

00:24:37.400 to carry.

00:24:37.700 I'll tell you,

00:24:38.360 I'll tell you, John,

00:24:39.140 one of those,

00:24:40.040 one of the places I can't,

00:24:41.720 and I'm always very concerned

00:24:43.060 when I go,

00:24:43.620 is a stadium.

00:24:44.700 If I go to a football game

00:24:46.420 or a baseball game

00:24:47.120 or a concert,

00:24:47.980 I can't have it there.

00:24:49.660 And that's always been,

00:24:51.100 now, granted,

00:24:51.640 there's a police presence,

00:24:53.320 but we both know,

00:24:54.580 I mean,

00:24:54.720 I was also,

00:24:55.280 cops can't be everywhere.

00:24:58.940 And back to another point

00:25:00.140 you made, though,

00:25:00.720 I've always,

00:25:01.480 one of the cases

00:25:01.960 I've always used

00:25:02.680 as an example

00:25:03.320 of picking a soft target

00:25:05.380 is the Charleston shooting

00:25:07.440 with Dylann Roof,

00:25:08.860 of course,

00:25:09.140 going into an African-American church,

00:25:10.520 a black church,

00:25:11.120 and murdering these people 0.94

00:25:12.220 as they worshipped.

00:25:13.840 And I always said,

00:25:14.700 if this guy

00:25:15.600 weren't specifically looking

00:25:17.320 for a soft target

00:25:18.160 and it was just

00:25:18.720 a racially motivated killing,

00:25:20.400 why didn't he go

00:25:21.060 onto a street corner

00:25:21.760 where there were

00:25:22.080 black gangbangers? 0.80

00:25:23.080 Because they were armed

00:25:24.040 and they probably

00:25:24.480 have shot back

00:25:25.020 and killed him

00:25:25.600 was always my thought process

00:25:27.420 on that.

00:25:28.640 Well, in fact,

00:25:29.200 we have statements

00:25:30.080 that Dylann Roof

00:25:31.600 had made

00:25:32.180 to his compatriots

00:25:33.660 about why he picked

00:25:35.280 the church.

00:25:35.960 His original target

00:25:36.940 was supposedly

00:25:38.140 going to be

00:25:39.140 Charleston College.

00:25:41.460 but that he had

00:25:43.620 checked into it

00:25:44.940 and he realized

00:25:45.500 that they had

00:25:46.380 armed guards

00:25:47.300 that were there.

00:25:48.280 Wow.

00:25:48.780 And he had taken

00:25:49.840 that into account

00:25:50.800 and deciding

00:25:51.640 not to go

00:25:52.720 after that target.

00:25:54.220 Now, doesn't this

00:25:54.780 also comport

00:25:55.480 with research

00:25:56.560 from the book

00:25:57.720 that really put

00:25:58.280 your brand on the map,

00:25:59.140 More Guns, Less Crime,

00:26:00.140 and where you looked

00:26:01.280 at inmates

00:26:02.220 who had committed crimes

00:26:03.200 and didn't they

00:26:03.840 overwhelmingly suggest

00:26:05.480 that they would pick

00:26:07.120 unarmed locations

00:26:08.300 to rob or mug

00:26:09.640 or people

00:26:10.700 to rob, mug, etc.?

00:26:11.780 That factored

00:26:12.820 into their thought process

00:26:13.780 as well?

00:26:15.140 Right.

00:26:15.740 Well, there's actually

00:26:16.380 a study by

00:26:17.240 two criminologists,

00:26:19.060 Wright and Rossi,

00:26:20.120 where they went

00:26:20.880 and did that survey.

00:26:23.420 And you just find

00:26:25.780 overwhelmingly

00:26:26.540 that criminals

00:26:28.260 take it into account.

00:26:29.560 Some evidence

00:26:30.460 that I have

00:26:31.060 in More Guns, Less Crime

00:26:32.140 is to look at something

00:26:32.960 called hot burglaries

00:26:34.260 or residential robberies.

00:26:36.500 These are burglaries

00:26:37.340 that occur

00:26:37.820 while the residents

00:26:38.740 are in the dwelling.

00:26:40.580 And what you find

00:26:41.560 is that you can look

00:26:43.700 across countries

00:26:44.580 and the rate

00:26:46.220 that that occurs

00:26:47.100 is very closely related

00:26:48.740 to whether

00:26:49.560 the gun ownership rate

00:26:51.180 in different places.

00:26:52.060 So in the United States,

00:26:53.600 you may have about

00:26:54.880 11 to 13 percent

00:26:57.260 of burglaries occur

00:27:00.380 while the residents

00:27:01.100 are in the dwelling.

00:27:02.760 In a country like the UK,

00:27:04.280 for example,

00:27:05.340 about 60 percent

00:27:06.640 of the robberies

00:27:08.340 or burglaries occur

00:27:09.740 while the residents

00:27:10.440 are in the home.

00:27:11.800 Because the bad guys

00:27:12.580 are less concerned

00:27:14.040 about being shot

00:27:14.640 by the homeowner.

00:27:16.100 Exactly.

00:27:16.680 I mean,

00:27:16.900 there have been surveys

00:27:17.780 by places like Rand

00:27:19.400 in the United States

00:27:20.920 or other places

00:27:21.960 in these other countries,

00:27:23.780 and they'll go

00:27:24.300 and ask them,

00:27:24.940 how long do you spend

00:27:25.820 casing a home?

00:27:26.920 Why do you spend

00:27:27.860 the amount of time

00:27:28.520 that you do?

00:27:29.040 an American burglar

00:27:30.640 who spend about

00:27:31.260 twice as long

00:27:32.140 casing a home

00:27:33.060 before they break in

00:27:34.320 compared to their

00:27:35.620 British counterparts,

00:27:36.860 for example.

00:27:37.980 And the reason

00:27:38.660 that they give

00:27:39.480 is that they're,

00:27:40.340 what you just said,

00:27:41.300 that they're worried

00:27:41.880 about being shot.

00:27:43.540 Their British counterparts 0.98

00:27:44.920 aren't concerned.

00:27:46.260 So they,

00:27:46.920 so Britain

00:27:47.360 has a burglar rate

00:27:48.880 twice the burglar rate

00:27:50.260 of the United States.

00:27:51.180 You know,

00:27:51.580 let me ask you,

00:27:52.140 John,

00:27:52.340 let me not interrupt,

00:27:53.180 but I would assume

00:27:54.880 that they would also

00:27:55.840 be factoring in the police,

00:27:57.200 right?

00:27:57.360 Because the British police

00:27:58.180 are by and large unarmed

00:27:59.260 and I worked,

00:28:01.140 well,

00:28:01.440 my former partner actually

00:28:02.700 when he was promoted

00:28:03.360 ran a burglary unit

00:28:04.480 so I went over with him

00:28:05.280 for a little while

00:28:06.000 and we learned that

00:28:07.520 they would case

00:28:08.240 the homes for both reasons.

00:28:09.940 And my evidence

00:28:10.560 is anecdotal

00:28:11.220 but I interviewed

00:28:11.720 the bad guys.

00:28:12.740 One to see if the homeowner

00:28:13.740 was armed

00:28:14.320 or in any way

00:28:15.460 even with a butcher knife

00:28:16.460 and two to see

00:28:17.500 when the police

00:28:18.300 rolled down that street

00:28:19.460 because they

00:28:20.180 factored in the police.

00:28:21.400 I would assume

00:28:21.980 that in the UK

00:28:22.960 the bad guys

00:28:24.080 are a little less afraid

00:28:25.040 of the police

00:28:25.780 because they can't

00:28:26.580 shoot back.

00:28:27.360 Yeah,

00:28:28.980 well,

00:28:29.180 I mean,

00:28:29.620 you can find

00:28:30.980 statements

00:28:31.700 from some American

00:28:34.540 police who have served,

00:28:36.720 have gone over

00:28:38.520 and become

00:28:39.140 police officers

00:28:40.260 in Britain actually

00:28:41.200 who have talked

00:28:42.480 about how different

00:28:43.340 their experience

00:28:44.180 have been.

00:28:45.040 You know,

00:28:45.200 in the United States,

00:28:47.440 American police

00:28:48.420 run towards the crime.

00:28:50.140 in Britain,

00:28:52.380 it's not uncommon

00:28:53.480 to have the British

00:28:54.720 police run away

00:28:55.860 from the crime

00:28:57.020 when shots

00:28:58.860 are being fired.

00:29:00.720 Yeah,

00:29:00.900 no,

00:29:01.200 it's unfortunate

00:29:03.120 that they don't,

00:29:04.720 culturally,

00:29:05.460 they still won't

00:29:06.040 make that shift

00:29:06.640 toward armed police

00:29:07.480 and I'm always shocked

00:29:08.880 at how many

00:29:09.880 in the populace

00:29:10.680 there don't want it.

00:29:12.020 Now,

00:29:12.160 one,

00:29:12.380 you have another

00:29:12.780 graph here,

00:29:14.500 a pie chart.

00:29:15.440 Percentage of shootings

00:29:16.300 in gun-free zones

00:29:17.220 between 1998

00:29:18.020 and December 2015,

00:29:20.420 there were only three,

00:29:21.780 only,

00:29:22.180 only,

00:29:22.520 I should say,

00:29:22.900 3.8% of mass

00:29:24.180 public shootings

00:29:25.280 occurred where guns

00:29:26.360 were permitted.

00:29:27.880 4%,

00:29:28.520 96.2%

00:29:30.300 happened where guns

00:29:32.000 were not allowed.

00:29:33.100 I just,

00:29:34.040 I don't understand,

00:29:35.220 though,

00:29:35.320 how the anti-gunners

00:29:36.340 can still look

00:29:37.940 at this data

00:29:38.520 and discard it

00:29:39.840 and call for gun-free zones.

00:29:41.600 It baffles me.

00:29:43.820 Right.

00:29:44.040 Well,

00:29:45.460 people like

00:29:47.420 Bloomberg's Everytown

00:29:49.060 and other groups,

00:29:50.820 they want to define

00:29:51.800 these things differently.

00:29:53.700 So,

00:29:53.940 for example,

00:29:54.580 the two big things

00:29:56.120 that they go

00:29:56.720 and look at is,

00:29:58.000 one,

00:29:58.900 where police are allowed

00:30:00.060 to carry guns,

00:30:01.240 they don't want to define

00:30:02.480 those as gun-free zones,

00:30:04.060 even if civilians are banned.

00:30:06.280 And,

00:30:06.800 to me,

00:30:07.240 it seems like

00:30:08.380 there's a huge difference

00:30:09.280 between the two

00:30:10.400 types of cases.

00:30:12.160 Police

00:30:12.720 who are in uniform

00:30:14.020 have an extremely

00:30:15.560 difficult job

00:30:16.580 when they're trying

00:30:17.200 to guard against

00:30:18.040 these types of

00:30:18.840 terrorist-types attacks.

00:30:20.500 If you're

00:30:21.060 an attacker,

00:30:22.580 you have a huge

00:30:23.180 strategic advantage

00:30:24.140 when the only person

00:30:25.140 that's armed

00:30:25.860 is in uniform.

00:30:27.120 That's right.

00:30:27.380 It's a very dangerous job.

00:30:29.080 Those killers

00:30:29.760 will go and target

00:30:30.960 those individuals

00:30:31.820 and kill them first 0.96

00:30:33.080 because they know

00:30:34.100 if they killed

00:30:34.820 the officer there,

00:30:36.380 then they pretty much

00:30:37.160 have free reign

00:30:38.020 for going and

00:30:38.820 attacking other people.

00:30:40.060 You know,

00:30:41.460 John,

00:30:41.720 that's one of the...

00:30:42.600 Yesterday on the show,

00:30:44.140 I had a very good

00:30:44.840 friend of mine,

00:30:45.280 he's a criminologist,

00:30:46.180 Dr. Adam Dobrin,

00:30:47.460 and he frequently

00:30:48.780 uses your work

00:30:50.020 in his classes.

00:30:51.500 He teaches at a university

00:30:52.460 here in Florida.

00:30:54.020 And we...

00:30:55.240 He's also a reserve

00:30:56.160 police officer,

00:30:57.660 deputy,

00:30:58.420 and we often talk about this.

00:30:59.560 He's been a good friend

00:31:00.300 of mine for years.

00:31:01.200 Why we legally

00:31:03.560 would support open carry,

00:31:06.080 the concept of open carry,

00:31:07.660 carrying your handgun,

00:31:08.600 not concealed,

00:31:10.800 but personally

00:31:11.620 would never do it.

00:31:13.500 As two guys

00:31:14.060 with street...

00:31:14.500 Would never do it

00:31:15.580 because you're the first

00:31:16.640 person a bad guy

00:31:17.840 is going to take out.

00:31:19.380 I've always liked

00:31:20.360 the element of surprise

00:31:21.300 and it happened to me.

00:31:23.180 A quick anecdotal story.

00:31:24.460 I was...

00:31:25.300 My partner,

00:31:26.880 we thought he broke his ankle.

00:31:27.760 He didn't.

00:31:28.480 He was in the emergency room.

00:31:30.040 I was in uniform.

00:31:31.080 I ran to buy food

00:31:32.020 at a Wendy's restaurant

00:31:32.980 in Washington Heights

00:31:33.920 in Manhattan.

00:31:34.940 Bad, bad neighborhood.

00:31:36.280 We were working

00:31:36.740 a parade detail

00:31:37.620 and I walked in

00:31:39.080 as the place

00:31:39.720 was being held up

00:31:40.760 and the guy swung 0.93

00:31:42.460 what I thought was...

00:31:43.640 I drew my gun.

00:31:44.800 He swung toward me.

00:31:45.760 I drew my gun.

00:31:47.100 Then he started crying

00:31:47.880 and dropped his gun.

00:31:48.700 He was a kid

00:31:49.260 with a fake gun.

00:31:50.700 But had he been

00:31:51.320 a real bad guy

00:31:52.360 with a loaded weapon,

00:31:54.460 he definitely

00:31:55.120 would have had the advantage.

00:31:56.140 I was far enough away

00:31:57.140 where, you know,

00:31:58.340 accuracy might have been

00:31:59.120 a problem with the people

00:32:00.040 in the restaurant.

00:32:00.640 But let me tell you,

00:32:01.900 I was walking into

00:32:02.900 his domain at that point

00:32:04.040 in uniform.

00:32:04.580 And it put me

00:32:06.440 at a significant disadvantage.

00:32:07.960 So I can tell you

00:32:08.460 that's absolutely accurate.

00:32:10.260 Look,

00:32:11.460 when you can identify

00:32:12.820 the only person

00:32:14.840 who may be able

00:32:15.500 to go and stop

00:32:16.320 a criminal

00:32:17.420 or a terrorist,

00:32:18.760 there's several

00:32:19.920 strategic advantages

00:32:21.880 that the killer

00:32:22.820 has in that case.

00:32:24.000 He can either

00:32:24.440 kill the officer first,

00:32:26.480 he can wait

00:32:27.020 for the officer

00:32:27.700 to leave the scene

00:32:28.700 before he attacks,

00:32:30.040 or he can go

00:32:31.060 and pick some other target

00:32:32.500 where he doesn't see

00:32:33.520 an officer present there.

00:32:35.280 And it's simply

00:32:36.040 impossible to go

00:32:37.280 and have an officer

00:32:38.900 guarding all possible targets.

00:32:41.580 So, you know,

00:32:42.000 after you'd have

00:32:43.160 terrorist attacks

00:32:44.160 in Paris

00:32:45.940 in early 2015,

00:32:48.400 you know,

00:32:48.560 the solution

00:32:49.740 from the French president

00:32:51.240 was to put

00:32:51.880 10,000 troops

00:32:53.560 on the streets.

00:32:54.660 Right.

00:32:54.880 Well, when you're talking

00:32:55.460 about a city

00:32:56.040 of 2.3 million people,

00:32:58.140 and obviously

00:32:58.700 not all 10,000 troops

00:33:00.420 are on the streets

00:33:01.360 at any point in time.

00:33:02.620 Sure, sure.

00:33:03.140 You know,

00:33:03.880 it's simply impossible

00:33:05.440 to go and guard

00:33:06.600 all the possible targets

00:33:08.240 that are there,

00:33:09.020 that all you may do

00:33:10.120 is cause the criminal

00:33:11.660 to either do one

00:33:13.120 of those three things first,

00:33:14.400 either wait for them

00:33:15.240 to leave,

00:33:16.000 kill them first, 0.96

00:33:16.880 or pick one

00:33:18.160 of the other targets

00:33:19.080 that aren't being guarded.

00:33:20.580 And it's a huge

00:33:21.720 strategic advantage

00:33:22.640 that these killers have.

00:33:23.700 And you're exactly right

00:33:24.880 that having concealed carry

00:33:27.020 takes away

00:33:28.180 those strategic advantages

00:33:29.560 that these killers have.

00:33:30.880 Well, it does.

00:33:31.980 And I'm glad

00:33:32.340 you brought up Paris

00:33:33.540 because I've always

00:33:34.160 used this example

00:33:35.000 on the show

00:33:35.540 with regards to New York, right?

00:33:36.860 So I was a member

00:33:37.880 of the NYPD,

00:33:38.700 largest department

00:33:39.260 in the country,

00:33:39.780 but you've got a city

00:33:40.480 of 8 to 9 million people,

00:33:42.340 a department of 35,000 sworn,

00:33:45.100 but only about,

00:33:46.700 I don't know,

00:33:47.980 6 to 7,000 of those

00:33:50.220 cops are ever on the street

00:33:51.620 at any given time.

00:33:52.580 I mean, many of them

00:33:53.220 are supervisors

00:33:53.840 who work inside

00:33:54.680 and don't go on patrol.

00:33:55.760 Others are detectives

00:33:56.560 and investigative units.

00:33:58.020 And other people

00:33:58.540 are on vacation

00:33:59.220 or home sleeping, right?

00:34:00.500 Or it's not

00:34:01.480 their regular day off.

00:34:03.260 And so you only have it

00:34:03.980 in some days,

00:34:04.740 you only have on the weekends

00:34:06.700 when certain details,

00:34:08.160 even if they're uniformed,

00:34:09.120 have time off.

00:34:10.200 You may only have

00:34:10.680 3,000 or 4,000 cops

00:34:12.340 on the street

00:34:12.880 for a city

00:34:13.660 of 8 or 9 million.

00:34:14.740 So you point out here

00:34:17.720 that people outside

00:34:20.700 of California and New York,

00:34:21.960 places of California

00:34:22.780 and New York,

00:34:23.200 of course,

00:34:24.080 are very difficult

00:34:24.600 to obtain a license

00:34:25.880 to carry a concealed handgun.

00:34:27.200 Now, some counties,

00:34:28.820 the more rural counties

00:34:29.620 in California,

00:34:30.380 rural counties in New York,

00:34:31.600 it's easier.

00:34:33.020 Judges can give you

00:34:34.600 the license in New York

00:34:36.100 or in California,

00:34:36.960 the sheriffs

00:34:37.400 are more inclined to issues.

00:34:39.060 It's a May issue situation.

00:34:40.980 But outside of those states,

00:34:43.440 8.5% of adults

00:34:45.000 have a license

00:34:46.560 to carry a concealed handgun.

00:34:47.780 Here in Florida,

00:34:49.120 last number was

00:34:49.900 we have 1.9 million

00:34:51.500 concealed weapons licenses issued.

00:34:54.040 But these numbers

00:34:54.800 are staggering.

00:34:55.560 So I want the audience

00:34:56.460 to think about this.

00:34:57.460 Outside of California,

00:34:58.980 8.5%,

00:34:59.920 except for New York,

00:35:00.640 8.5% of adults

00:35:01.840 who can legally carry

00:35:02.800 are licensed to carry.

00:35:04.640 In Alameda County,

00:35:05.800 California,

00:35:06.680 there were only 85 people

00:35:08.080 with concealed handgun permits

00:35:09.600 at the end of 2011

00:35:10.640 out of a population

00:35:12.300 of 1.2 million,

00:35:14.240 a rate of 0.007%.

00:35:16.700 And as you know,

00:35:18.540 those with permits

00:35:19.440 were mainly judges,

00:35:20.500 prosecutors,

00:35:20.980 and wealthy businessmen.

00:35:21.880 In September 2011,

00:35:24.460 there were only 240 permits

00:35:27.080 in all of Los Angeles County

00:35:29.700 with a population

00:35:30.380 of about 7.6 million adults

00:35:33.260 for a rate of 0.0032%.

00:35:37.380 And of those 240 permits,

00:35:39.660 most went to judges

00:35:41.240 and reserve deputies

00:35:42.340 who coincidentally

00:35:43.440 tend to be big campaign donors

00:35:45.620 to the sheriff's.

00:35:46.960 10% of permit holders

00:35:48.520 were on Sheriff Lee Baca's

00:35:50.660 quote-unquote gift list.

00:35:53.580 In addition,

00:35:54.140 the attack,

00:35:55.880 oh, okay,

00:35:56.420 so you refer to

00:35:57.000 reference to an attack.

00:35:58.140 In Orange County,

00:35:59.400 a may issue county,

00:36:00.880 there were only 551 people

00:36:02.440 with permits

00:36:02.920 with an adult population

00:36:04.020 of 2.26 million,

00:36:05.880 a rate of 0.02%.

00:36:07.140 Again,

00:36:07.980 mainly judges,

00:36:08.700 prosecutors,

00:36:09.240 and wealthy businessmen.

00:36:10.400 So the privileged elite

00:36:11.860 in these may issue states

00:36:13.420 and counties

00:36:13.960 are considered

00:36:15.340 more worthy

00:36:16.180 of personal protection

00:36:17.280 than are the average

00:36:18.960 working people.

00:36:20.880 Right.

00:36:21.500 Well,

00:36:21.820 and you see it

00:36:22.600 in other ways

00:36:23.440 you can break down

00:36:24.160 the data.

00:36:24.900 I actually got the list

00:36:26.300 of all the 240 0.88

00:36:27.880 concealed care permit holders

00:36:29.780 in Los Angeles County.

00:36:31.700 And,

00:36:32.140 you know,

00:36:33.100 what you find

00:36:34.280 is that

00:36:34.880 only about 6%

00:36:36.640 are black,

00:36:37.820 only about 6%

00:36:39.400 are,

00:36:39.960 6.5%

00:36:40.940 are Hispanic,

00:36:41.700 about the same

00:36:43.460 percent female.

00:36:45.480 Obviously,

00:36:46.680 about half

00:36:48.720 the population

00:36:49.660 in the county

00:36:50.320 is Hispanic.

00:36:52.580 You know,

00:36:52.980 females obviously 1.00

00:36:53.820 make up half,

00:36:54.720 about half the percent.

00:36:56.060 So it's incredibly

00:36:56.780 disproportionate

00:36:58.140 to the population

00:36:59.640 and demographic

00:37:00.260 breakdown of the county,

00:37:01.260 which would indicate

00:37:03.100 that this is for

00:37:04.080 the wealthy elite

00:37:05.160 political donors

00:37:06.040 or those who are

00:37:06.720 very well connected.

00:37:08.540 Right.

00:37:09.060 And the irony

00:37:11.380 is you have

00:37:13.040 Democrats claiming

00:37:14.460 that they care

00:37:15.240 about women

00:37:16.320 and minorities

00:37:17.180 and what have you.

00:37:18.680 And yet,

00:37:19.480 when they have

00:37:20.600 this discretion

00:37:21.460 and they control

00:37:22.580 the process there

00:37:23.600 over who gets

00:37:24.420 the concealed carry permit,

00:37:26.160 it's basically

00:37:26.920 not only wealthy

00:37:28.440 and politically

00:37:29.720 well connected

00:37:30.500 individuals,

00:37:31.180 but it's basically

00:37:31.800 wealthy white males

00:37:33.160 who end up

00:37:34.300 being the only ones

00:37:35.440 who get it

00:37:35.960 as if,

00:37:37.180 and you compare

00:37:37.900 it nationally,

00:37:39.160 nationally women

00:37:40.560 make up about

00:37:41.640 almost a third

00:37:43.600 of concealed carry

00:37:44.740 permit holders.

00:37:45.720 Wow.

00:37:46.020 But in Los Angeles County,

00:37:47.680 they just make up

00:37:48.560 over 6%.

00:37:49.660 Wow.

00:37:50.540 A fraction,

00:37:51.080 a fraction of a fraction.

00:37:52.860 Dr. John Lott,

00:37:53.720 Crime Prevention Research Center.

00:37:54.880 This is outstanding data.

00:37:56.100 I want to do a segment

00:37:56.720 next week with you

00:37:57.420 just on that.

00:37:58.160 Let's dig into those numbers

00:37:59.200 and how it debunks

00:38:00.300 the liberal narrative

00:38:01.020 in those places

00:38:01.680 about racial

00:38:02.940 and gender equality. 0.79

00:38:04.480 John,

00:38:04.660 it's always an absolute

00:38:05.500 pleasure to have you.

00:38:06.220 Thanks.

00:38:07.100 Thanks for having me on, John.

00:38:08.320 We can always see

00:38:20.640 that Obama's White House

00:38:22.020 was undisciplined,

00:38:23.140 full of young morons, 0.88

00:38:25.620 people like Ben Rhodes.

00:38:26.960 But now,

00:38:27.920 a story from the Daily Mail

00:38:28.960 is pretty interesting.

00:38:30.180 A former Obama staffer,

00:38:31.840 a girl,

00:38:32.440 a younger woman

00:38:33.260 who was Obama's stenographer,

00:38:35.360 said that Obama's Air Force One

00:38:37.300 was like summer camp

00:38:39.160 on steroids.

00:38:40.600 And she revealed

00:38:41.480 how Xanax and Ambien

00:38:43.320 on long flights

00:38:45.000 made awkward hookups

00:38:47.040 with colleagues

00:38:47.940 funny and bizarre.

00:38:51.080 The woman is named

00:38:52.020 Beck Dory Stein.

00:38:55.300 And she talks about

00:38:55.780 how traveling

00:38:56.220 with President Obama

00:38:57.200 and his press pool

00:38:58.080 was like,

00:39:00.040 he said,

00:39:00.620 summer camp on steroids.

00:39:01.740 She's writing a memoir

00:39:02.460 from Corner of the Oval,

00:39:04.440 and she was the stenographer

00:39:05.740 in the Oval Office.

00:39:08.980 You know,

00:39:09.320 her book contains

00:39:10.200 many anecdotes,

00:39:11.300 but she apparently

00:39:12.180 got the job

00:39:12.940 by answering

00:39:13.640 a Craigslist ad

00:39:14.980 and wound up

00:39:16.660 having this affair

00:39:17.960 with a member

00:39:19.180 of Obama's staff.

00:39:20.180 But what really struck me

00:39:21.780 was how

00:39:23.180 the lack of discipline

00:39:25.620 on Air Force One

00:39:27.160 was,

00:39:28.180 and just how poor

00:39:29.020 discipline was

00:39:29.580 on Air Force One

00:39:30.340 under Obama.

00:39:32.460 She says,

00:39:34.480 quote,

00:39:34.760 no one deserves

00:39:35.460 to be this lucky.

00:39:36.900 She wrote about

00:39:37.680 a core group of staffers

00:39:38.840 who flew around the world

00:39:39.920 on Air Force One together.

00:39:42.300 She felt she wasn't

00:39:43.340 a good job

00:39:43.960 for a job

00:39:45.800 at a Washington think tank,

00:39:47.260 but after being a teacher,

00:39:49.120 she was tutoring

00:39:50.480 at Sidwell Friends School,

00:39:52.100 which is a very elite

00:39:52.960 public school

00:39:53.660 in Washington, D.C.

00:39:55.220 The kids

00:39:55.460 and many presidents

00:39:56.140 have gone there.

00:39:58.960 She answered

00:39:59.900 a Craigslist ad

00:40:00.800 and got a job

00:40:01.960 in the White House.

00:40:03.220 Got a job

00:40:04.060 in the White House.

00:40:06.600 And she was,

00:40:08.140 she was on Air Force One

00:40:10.760 all the time.

00:40:11.700 And what she writes

00:40:12.860 is just mind-blowing

00:40:14.960 as to how it seemed

00:40:16.300 nobody

00:40:17.080 in the Obama White House

00:40:18.940 cared how there was

00:40:19.980 a very apathetic approach.

00:40:23.740 And it's,

00:40:24.600 I just,

00:40:25.080 I can't even believe

00:40:26.360 some of what I'm writing

00:40:27.720 about the,

00:40:29.140 the,

00:40:29.580 here's what she says.

00:40:32.720 It was on her first trip

00:40:33.420 she found herself

00:40:34.140 in $500 a night hotel rooms

00:40:35.800 with breathtaking views

00:40:36.840 of Cabo San Lucas

00:40:37.960 before continuing

00:40:39.700 to Costa Rica,

00:40:40.560 Tanzania,

00:40:41.160 and Laos.

00:40:42.020 She'd listen to

00:40:42.700 old-timer boozy

00:40:43.900 party animals

00:40:44.720 tell stories

00:40:45.520 about different administrations,

00:40:47.560 presidents,

00:40:48.100 and international incidents

00:40:49.000 they've witnessed.

00:40:50.100 From George H.W. Bush

00:40:52.020 puking on the

00:40:52.800 Prime Minister of Japan,

00:40:54.420 Reagan in Rome

00:40:55.240 falling asleep

00:40:55.980 in front of the Pope,

00:40:56.900 Monica Lewinsky,

00:40:58.280 9-11,

00:40:58.880 and Hurricane Katrina.

00:41:01.140 Pinch me

00:41:01.560 because how has this

00:41:02.340 seen my real life

00:41:03.280 she wrote.

00:41:04.700 And talks about

00:41:05.380 her trips overseas.

00:41:06.500 Now,

00:41:07.440 I,

00:41:07.740 I,

00:41:09.140 was particularly

00:41:10.560 just shocked

00:41:12.380 by this.

00:41:13.480 She describes

00:41:14.000 experiencing,

00:41:14.960 quote,

00:41:15.240 the best sleepover

00:41:16.780 party ever.

00:41:17.720 This is on Air Force One.

00:41:19.660 Where everyone

00:41:20.760 took their drug

00:41:22.140 of choice

00:41:22.920 on long flights.

00:41:24.800 Sonata,

00:41:25.120 Xanax,

00:41:25.760 or Ambien,

00:41:26.620 which made

00:41:27.220 any,

00:41:28.340 quote,

00:41:28.560 awkward intimacy

00:41:29.880 with colleagues

00:41:31.480 suddenly just

00:41:32.820 funny and bizarre,

00:41:34.920 end quote.

00:41:35.680 I can tell you,

00:41:37.220 you know that I speak

00:41:38.160 to people in the

00:41:38.620 Trump administration.

00:41:40.120 The discipline

00:41:41.180 in the Trump White House

00:41:43.100 and on Air Force One

00:41:44.480 is Trump

00:41:45.360 doesn't drink.

00:41:47.200 This would

00:41:48.240 never,

00:41:49.460 never

00:41:50.240 be tolerated

00:41:51.320 in the Trump administration

00:41:52.600 by Chief of Staff

00:41:53.840 General Kelly

00:41:54.520 or by

00:41:55.660 Trump's

00:41:56.300 Secret Service

00:41:56.840 detail.

00:41:57.600 Never.

00:41:58.500 Never.

00:42:01.380 Heading for Delhi

00:42:02.280 in India

00:42:02.700 where the president

00:42:03.240 met the prime minister,

00:42:04.160 she was warned

00:42:04.640 about destitution,

00:42:05.660 the starving children

00:42:06.280 in the streets,

00:42:07.580 begging mothers 0.91

00:42:08.300 and thin dogs

00:42:09.180 lying waiting for death

00:42:10.240 in piles of trash

00:42:11.120 everywhere.

00:42:11.860 But no one on this trip

00:42:12.980 saw any of that.

00:42:14.220 They were always

00:42:14.780 protected from seeing

00:42:15.680 the poverty in this country

00:42:16.800 and instead saw

00:42:18.000 a glossy two-dimensional

00:42:19.080 Disney World version

00:42:20.180 while motorcating

00:42:21.680 manicured streets.

00:42:23.320 Well, because

00:42:23.940 Obama wanted

00:42:25.080 to also portray that.

00:42:27.380 Obama wanted

00:42:28.000 to portray that.

00:42:30.300 But

00:42:30.500 I just,

00:42:33.300 this is really

00:42:34.340 indicative,

00:42:36.080 really indicative

00:42:37.780 of the Obama administration,

00:42:40.060 how the entire staff

00:42:41.740 saw it as a party,

00:42:43.320 how Obama saw it

00:42:44.220 as a party.

00:42:44.700 Michelle Obama's family

00:42:45.680 flew around

00:42:46.560 on Air Force One.

00:42:47.380 Very, very disturbing.

00:42:49.460 Very disturbing

00:42:50.520 to read.

00:42:52.420 And of course,

00:42:54.200 she stayed on 0.84

00:42:55.640 with,

00:42:56.940 she stayed on 0.84

00:42:59.180 with the Trump administration

00:43:00.680 or which she describes

00:43:02.480 as the insane

00:43:03.880 clown posse. 0.63

00:43:06.600 And she insults, 0.55

00:43:08.300 this is an Obama person,

00:43:09.660 and the White House

00:43:10.440 executive parking lot

00:43:11.580 now filled with

00:43:12.280 Porsches and Maseratis

00:43:13.680 instead of Priuses

00:43:15.080 and Chevys.

00:43:15.820 What was once a joy

00:43:17.540 has become

00:43:18.120 a walking nightmare.

00:43:19.980 I'm now a stenographer

00:43:21.300 in the Trump administration.

00:43:23.540 But she was a far leftist

00:43:24.720 who thought

00:43:26.340 that taking drugs

00:43:27.920 and having indiscriminate sex 0.66

00:43:29.400 on Air Force One,

00:43:31.880 a taxpayer-funded aircraft,

00:43:33.420 was just great

00:43:34.540 and amazing.

00:43:35.560 But now that she's working

00:43:37.040 in a patriotic administration

00:43:38.340 that puts discipline

00:43:40.060 in place,

00:43:40.920 it's a quote-unquote

00:43:42.180 walking nightmare.

00:43:43.820 I hope

00:43:45.920 General Kelly reads this

00:43:47.620 and this moron 0.77

00:43:48.820 is fired immediately.

00:43:51.140 But even more importantly,

00:43:52.380 I'm glad she wrote this

00:43:53.360 because it shows

00:43:54.220 the contrast

00:43:55.040 of how Obama

00:43:56.440 treated and respected America

00:43:58.060 and how the Trump administration

00:43:59.440 treats and respects America.

00:44:01.220 If you want to know

00:44:13.360 what fake news is,

00:44:14.240 look no further

00:44:15.100 than CBS.

00:44:16.240 It appears that CBS News

00:44:17.500 was literally caught

00:44:18.740 red-handed printing

00:44:20.320 fake news.

00:44:21.160 So they run a headline

00:44:21.980 yesterday,

00:44:23.020 Sarah Sanders

00:44:23.700 and Raj Shah

00:44:24.460 planning to depart

00:44:25.200 the White House.

00:44:25.720 Of course,

00:44:26.480 White House Press Secretary

00:44:27.300 Sarah Sanders

00:44:28.060 and Deputy Press Secretary

00:44:29.220 Raj Shah.

00:44:30.600 They write,

00:44:31.820 two of the most visible

00:44:32.580 members of the Trump administration

00:44:33.800 are planning their departures,

00:44:35.080 the latest sign

00:44:35.900 of upheaval

00:44:36.960 in a White House

00:44:37.580 marked by turmoil.

00:44:39.880 Sarah Sanders and Raj Shah

00:44:41.000 are both heading

00:44:41.560 for the exit

00:44:42.100 according to sources

00:44:43.300 inside the White House

00:44:44.520 and close to the administration.

00:44:46.300 Anonymous sources.

00:44:48.400 Sarah Sanders

00:44:49.320 then tweets.

00:44:52.200 This is the best part.

00:44:53.280 CBS News

00:44:54.480 includes

00:44:55.740 the Sarah Sanders tweet

00:44:57.220 in their article.

00:44:59.540 Sarah Sanders tweeted,

00:45:01.000 the CBS News

00:45:01.720 knows something

00:45:02.220 I don't

00:45:02.780 about my plans

00:45:03.500 and my future.

00:45:04.800 I was at my daughter's

00:45:05.720 year-end kindergarten event

00:45:06.840 and they ran a story

00:45:07.840 about my plans

00:45:08.760 to leave the White House

00:45:09.740 without even talking

00:45:11.780 to me.

00:45:13.080 I love my job

00:45:14.560 and I'm honored

00:45:15.100 to work for POTUS.

00:45:16.860 So let's break this down.

00:45:19.020 CBS News

00:45:19.980 runs the story

00:45:21.540 but doesn't ask

00:45:22.440 the subject

00:45:22.960 of the story

00:45:23.580 instead relying

00:45:24.260 on anonymous sources

00:45:25.300 but then includes

00:45:26.920 the subject

00:45:27.360 of the story's tweet

00:45:28.220 debunking the story

00:45:29.200 yet still runs

00:45:30.480 a headline

00:45:31.140 Sarah Sanders

00:45:32.460 Raj Shah

00:45:33.020 planning to depart

00:45:33.880 the White House.

00:45:34.960 Not Sarah Sanders

00:45:36.420 dispels rumors

00:45:38.480 debunks rumors

00:45:39.580 denies rumors

00:45:40.680 that she's planning

00:45:41.700 to leave the White House.

00:45:43.620 I mean

00:45:43.760 this is literally

00:45:45.480 literally

00:45:47.100 the definition

00:45:48.760 of fake news.

00:45:51.620 So

00:45:51.640 CBS

00:45:52.720 so it's

00:45:53.480 1-2-3-4-5

00:45:55.880 so let me see

00:45:57.220 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11

00:46:03.760 14-15 paragraphs

00:46:07.360 of

00:46:08.680 them

00:46:09.480 explaining

00:46:10.380 why

00:46:11.140 why Americans 0.99

00:46:12.860 should listen

00:46:14.060 to

00:46:14.500 an anonymous source

00:46:16.100 but disregard

00:46:17.660 the on-the-record

00:46:19.500 tweet and statement

00:46:20.420 of the press secretary

00:46:21.300 who says

00:46:22.360 she doesn't know

00:46:23.220 what they're talking

00:46:23.720 about

00:46:24.000 and has no plans

00:46:24.880 to leave the White House.

00:46:26.820 Now

00:46:27.180 others have said

00:46:28.160 that Sarah Sanders

00:46:28.700 may want to leave

00:46:29.240 the White House

00:46:29.580 by the end of the year

00:46:30.240 as well.

00:46:30.780 Look

00:46:31.040 it's an exhausting

00:46:31.900 24-7 job

00:46:33.120 and she's the mother

00:46:33.620 of young children.

00:46:34.980 If she did leave

00:46:35.980 you know

00:46:37.320 that would be understandable

00:46:38.140 she wants to go to a network 0.98

00:46:39.120 get a big paying job

00:46:40.000 but

00:46:40.720 for CBS

00:46:41.620 to run

00:46:42.380 this story

00:46:43.680 to run this story

00:46:45.280 and then they start

00:46:46.080 throwing in

00:46:47.380 stats

00:46:48.040 turnover during

00:46:49.160 Mr. Trump's first year

00:46:50.000 in office was 34%

00:46:51.220 nearly four times higher

00:46:52.180 than turnover

00:46:52.740 during the first year

00:46:53.580 of the Obama administration

00:46:54.920 yeah

00:46:55.420 because a bunch of Obama

00:46:56.480 holdovers got booted out

00:46:57.780 they tried to stay around

00:46:58.900 to sabotage

00:47:00.300 the Trump administration

00:47:01.220 and it didn't work

00:47:03.080 but really

00:47:03.960 this is

00:47:04.860 the epitome

00:47:05.980 the very definition

00:47:07.840 of fake news

00:47:08.540 and when you read

00:47:09.520 something like this

00:47:10.420 with the clickbait headline

00:47:11.780 and 15 paragraphs

00:47:13.300 or so

00:47:14.060 trying to justify

00:47:15.080 their story

00:47:17.260 despite an

00:47:18.160 on-the-record

00:47:18.900 denial

00:47:19.440 by the subject

00:47:20.120 of the story

00:47:20.760 well

00:47:21.500 if that doesn't

00:47:22.540 explain

00:47:23.000 why Americans 0.99

00:47:24.140 no longer

00:47:25.140 trust the media

00:47:25.840 I don't know

00:47:26.900 what does

00:47:27.380 do

00:47:28.740 it

00:47:30.480 it

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Rebel News Podcast - June 14, 2018

Off The Cuff Declassified： OIG Report, Second Amendment issues, Obama aid spills the dirt, CBS fake news？

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